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IT IS THURSDAY, UH, AUGUST 20TH, 2026 AT 10:31 AM THIS IS THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSIONER, WE START OFF WITH A ROLL CALL, PLEASE.
DISTRICT DATE COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN.
COMMISSIONER COX? DISTRICT 12.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
YOU HAVE QUORUM AND COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN JUST JOINED US.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE FOR JOINING US TODAY.
AS A REMINDER, THIS IS THE BRIEFING.
THIS IS JUST TIME FOR STAFF TO PRESENT AND FOR US TO ASK QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF TIME FOR THAT IN THE PUBLIC HEARING IN THE AFTERNOON.
UM, ITEM NUMBER ONE, WE HAVE ONE MISCELLANEOUS ITEM, UM, WHICH IS IN DISTRICT THREE.
SO THE VICE CHAIR ISN'T WITH US YET, SO LET'S SKIP PAST THAT.
UM, IT LOOKS LIKE ITEMS ITEM TWO IS IN COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S DISTRICT, AND SHE'LL ALSO BE JOINING US IN A LITTLE BIT, I ASSUME.
DO WE NEED THAT ONE BRIEFED? YES.
MR. LEE AND VICE CHAIR HERBERT IS NOW ONLINE.
ITEM THREE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 0 6.
THIS PROPERTY IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT EIGHT.
HERE'S THE AERIAL AND THE SURROUNDING ZONING LANE USAGE OF THE PROPERTY.
UH, SO THIS IS APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UTILITY OR GOVERNMENT IN INSTALLATION OR OTHER THAN LISTED ON PROPERTY ZONE, UH, AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
AND THE PURPOSE IS TO ALLOW A DALLAS CITY OF DALLAS WATER UTILITIES WATER TOWER.
UH, IT IS A SITES CURRENTLY ZONED, UH, AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND IT'S CURRENTLY UNDEVELOPED, UM, SURROUNDING PROPERTIES, PREDOMINANTLY, UH, INDUSTRIAL DEVELOPMENT WITH SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENCE TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY.
UM, AS SUCH, THE APPLICANT WISHES IS TO, UM, APPLY FOR FOOD USE PERMIT FOR THE WATER TOWER.
UH, HERE'S A PORTION OF THE PROPERTY, UM, ON BLANCO ROAD LOOKING EAST TO THE SOUTH, TO THE WEST, AND TO THE NORTH.
UH, HERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT.
UH, HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, UH, WHICH THERE HAS BEEN A SMALL ADJUSTMENT, UM, INSTEAD OF 195 FEET.
UM, THERE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING 200 FEET CORNER, FOUR DALLAS, THE PROPERTY IDENTIFIED AS LOGISTICS SLASH INDUSTRIAL PARK.
UH, AND WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL, SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
QUESTIONS? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN? NO, MR. CHAIR.
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ELSE? COMMISSIONER HALL, HOW TALL IS THE WATER TOWER? UH, PROPOSING 200 FEET.AND AS OF RIGHT NOW, OUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS 2, 3, 4, 7, AND EIGHT.
DO ANY OTHERS NEED TO COME OFF? UM, SEVEN.
LEFT ON CONSENT AT THE MOMENT ARE 2, 3, 4, AND EIGHT.
SO IT'S NOW TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
HERBERT, DID YOU NEED ITEM ONE TO BE BRIEFED? I DON'T.
I SPOKE WITH, UM, THE REP AND, UM, THE TEAM, AND I THINK WE'RE OKAY.
UM, IF ANY OF MY COUNTER PARTS DO, I'M OKAY WITH THAT AS WELL.
ANYONE ELSE NEED NUMBER ONE? BRIEFED.
DO WE NEED ITEM NUMBER FOUR? BRIEF COMMISSIONER, SERRATO.
ANYONE ELSE HA WANT THAT BRIEF TO HAVE QUESTIONS ON IT? ITEM FIVE.
DO WE NEED A BRIEFING THERE OR QUESTIONS? UH, BRIEFING PLEASE, MR. CHAIR.
UH, YOU SAY ITEM, UH, FOUR OR ITEM FIVE? FOUR.
MR. AGUIGUI, EVERYONE CAN SEE THE APPLICATION.
SO THIS IS, UH, APPLICATION Z 26 0 0 0 0 1, 23.
UM, AS, UH, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE REQUEST IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER, UH, 4 39.
THE PURPOSE OF THE REQUEST IS TO AMEN, EXISTING DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO INCREASE THE MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA, THE FLOOR AREA, AND, UM, AND THE HOURS OF, UH, OF OPERATION.
UM, HERE'S THE LOCATION, UH, THE STARBUCKS, THE LOCATION TO THE, UM, PROPERTY IN RELEVANCE TO THE, UH, PROPERTY IN RELEVANCE TO THE, UH, CITY OF, UH, DALLAS, UH, UH, UH, JURISDICTION.
SO HERE IS THE AERIAL OF THE MAP.
THE, UH, BLUE SQUARE THAT YOU SEE IS ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE, UH, PD.
AND, UH, THE PROPERTY ADJACENT TO IT IS A RETAIL PROFESSIONAL SERVICE, UH, TIER AND EVENT CENTER TO THE NORTH.
UH, TO THE EAST, YOU HAVE A SINGLE FAMILY AS WELL AS, UH, TO THE SOUTH AND, UH, WEST.
SO THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT WAS ESTABLISHED BACK IN 1996, UH, TO A NONPROFIT COMMUNITY SERVICE CENTER FOR, UM, OFFERS OF TECHNICAL SCHOOL, CULTURAL, SOCIAL, AND RECREATIONAL ACTIVITIES, EDUCATION AND WORKSHOP, THEATER AND, UH, GENERAL MERCHANDISE.
UH, IT ALSO HAS, UH, THEATER, UH, OR ART THAT, UH, THEY DO, UH, EXHIBITS, UH, AS WELL, THE APPLICATION INTEND TO INCREASE THE MAXIMAL FLOOR AREA.
THE MAIN PURPOSE IS TO INCREASE THE TECHNICAL SCHOOL AND THEN THE APPLICANT, WHICH IS TO, UH, TO EXTEND THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS.
THIS IS, UH, I'M STANDING ON, UH, BROOKLYN AVENUE.
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AROUND TO TRY TO SHOW THE, THE AREA.SO THERE'S THE ALLEY HERE, UH, WHERE YOU SEE THIS, UM, UM, AREA IS WHERE THEY'RE INTENDING TO, UH, EXPAND THE BUILDING.
AND THEN THESE ARE THE SURROUNDING PROPERTIES.
THIS IS ACROSS ON, UH, BROOKLYN AVENUE.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THEY DO HAVE THE POSTING SIGNS.
AGAIN, I KIND OF SHOW WHAT IS AROUND.
THIS ONE IS FACING THE, THE REAR OF THE HOMES.
AND THEN, UH, HERE IS THE PARKING AREA, UH, FOR THE COMMUNITY CENTER.
THIS IS ON, UH, PEMBROOK AVENUE, KIND OF, UH, TO A 360.
THERE'S SOME, UH, SINGLE FAMILY HOMES.
AND THEN THIS IS THE PROPOSED, UH, SITE PLAN.
UH, THIS IS THE, THE EXPANSION.
THESE TWO SQUARES THAT, UH, YOU SEE HERE IS WHERE THEY'RE, UH, UH, EXTENDING, AS I STATED.
THAT'S THAT, UH, UH, AREA BY THE ALLEY.
AND I, UH, PUT THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS, UH, KIND OF, IT'S A SUMMARY.
IT'S NOT THE ENTIRE, THE ENTIRELY, BUT IT IS WITH, UH, WITH THE, WITH THE REPORT OR ACTUALLY WITH THE REPORT.
UH, I BELIEVE THAT EVERYBODY GOT, UH, AN UPDATED, UH, VERSION.
SO HERE IS WHAT IS CHANGING THE TECHNICAL SCHOOL.
UH, WE'RE REMOVING THE LIMITED, UH, AREA SO THAT THE, UM, EXPANSION MAYBE IN, IN THE NEAR FUTURE, UH, COULD HAPPEN.
SO AGAIN, THIS IS THE, THE OFFICE USE RECREATIONAL USE, UH, THE RESIDENTIAL USE ARE NOT PERMITTED.
UH, RETAIL AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES.
AGAIN, GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR, OR FOOD STORE.
AND THEN, UH, HERE ARE THE SETBACKS.
THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH, UH, STAYING THE SAME.
AND THEN, UH, THEY'RE DOING A COMBINE TO INCREASE IT FROM 10,850 TO 15,000 SQUARE FEET, AS YOU CAN SEE IT FROM THE ADDITION, THAT'S NOT ACTUALLY WAS, WAS GOING TO BE, BUT IT GIVES, UM, UH, AN AREA TO, UH, TO EXPAND MAYBE LIKE LATER ON.
AND THEN THEY'RE CHANGING THE FLOOR AREA RATIO FROM, UH, THREE, THREE TO ONE TO, UH, FOUR TO ONE.
UM, AND THEN, UM, THEY'RE ALSO CHANGING THE HOURS OF OPERATIONS, UH, BETWEEN 9:00 AM TO 11, UH, PM UH, TO 1:00 AM IN INSTEAD.
UM, HERE IS THE PROPOSED SETBACKS, AS I STATED.
UH, THEY'RE PRETTY MUCH THE, THE SAME, THE, THE FRONT IS, UH, ONE FOOT AND THE REAR IS, UH, UH, TWO FOOT THAT STAYS THE SAME.
AND THEN, UH, UM, IT IS CONSISTENT WITH, UH, UH, WITH THE DALLAS FORWARD, UH, UH, PLAN AS I STATE, UH, IT IS, IT IS ALLOWED IN, IN THIS, UH, PARTICULAR, UH, UH, TYPE.
AND THEN THE ENTIRE PROPERTY, AGAIN IS SEW AS PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
UH, 4 39, UM, IS JUST MAKING SOME AMENDMENTS.
UM, STAFF FEELS THAT, UH, IS IN SUPPORT.
UH, IT DOES NOT FORESEE ANY, UH, DETRIMENTAL, UH, UH, ISSUES TO THE SURROUNDING, UH, PROPERTIES.
UH, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO, TO CONDITIONS AND THE AMENDMENT DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
SO, MR. AGUILAR, IF I, IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE I, I GET THIS.
WHAT BROUGHT ALL THIS UP WAS THE BUILDING JUST HAS SORT OF AN ODD NOTCH OUT AT THE NORTHEAST CORNER, AND WE'RE JUST IN THE, THE PD NEEDS TO BE EXPANDED TO ALLOW THE, BUILD THE OWNER TO BUILD INTO THAT NOTCH.
SO IS THAT, IS MY UNDERSTANDING CORRECT? YEAH.
IT'S JUST THAT SORT OF ODD NOTCH IN THE ALLEY? YES.
IT'S, UH, THAT IS CORRECT, SIR.
AND THEN, UH, AS WE REVIEWED THE PD, UH, FROM A, JUST A LAND USE STANDPOINT, I THINK WE OBSERVED, OR YOU OBSERVED, AND I, AND I DISCUSSED WITH YOU THAT THE, UH, HAVING SQUARE FOOTAGE IN THE PD WAS ODD FROM A LAND USE STANDPOINT.
I THINK IT WAS STAFF'S VIEW, IF I UNDERSTOOD CORRECTLY, THAT TAKING THAT OUT WOULD JUST MAKE A NICER, CLEANER PD FOR US.
IS THAT CORRECT AS WELL? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, AND THEN IN TERMS OF, UH, IN TERMS OF THE EXPANDED HOURS, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING, I WANNA SEE IF THIS WAS YOUR UNDERSTANDING AS WELL, THAT IN SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT, THERE WERE, IT'S, THERE ARE JUST A FEW OCCASIONS WHERE THE APPLICANT FELT LIKE HAVING LATER HOURS WOULD BE
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HELPFUL.THINGS LIKE, UH, D DE LOS MUERTOS, ADA AROUND CHRISTMAS THING, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, AND POTENTIALLY SOME FUNERAL EVENTS AS WELL.
WAS THAT YOUR UNDERSTANDING IT, THAT THAT IS, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS ALSO, UM, A CULTURAL THING.
I, UM, I RECALL WHEN I WAS, UH, UH, LIVING IN, UH, UH, MEXICO, UH, THE PREP AND THE UNIVERSITY, THEY OFFERED, UH, TWO DIFFERENT, UH, TIMES FOR, FOR SCHOOL.
ONE, UH, LATE SCHOOL, AND THEN ALSO, UH, MORNING SCHOOL.
SO THIS MIGHT ALSO BE, UH, PART OF THAT, UH, UH, ISSUE.
ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS? ALRIGHT, UM, GOING BACK TO ITEM TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
DID, DID YOU WANT THAT BRIEF OR DID YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER TWO? OKAY, THEN LET'S GO ALONG TO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
COMMISSIONER SERATO, DID YOU NEED SIX BRIEFED OR QUESTIONS ON THAT ONE? ANYONE ELSE? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, WOULD YOU LIKE A BRIEFING OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, I'M GOING TO PUSH THIS ONE, UH, MR. CHAIR, BUT I DO HAVE A QUESTION FOR STAFF REGARDING SEVEN.
UH, AND THE QUESTION IS REGARDING THE NOTICE REQUIREMENT.
UH, THIS SUP IS BEING REQUESTED FOR THIS SHOPPING CENTER AREA OFF OF, UH, GREAT TRINITY, BUT THE SIGNS FOR THE, THE NOTICE SIGNS ARE CLOSER TO THE STREET ON THE SIDEWALKS FAR AWAY FROM THE BUILDING.
SO IT'S REALLY HARD TO IDENTIFY WHERE THIS SUP WOULD, WOULD BE, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH, I KNOW IT'S ON THE SITE PLAN MM-HMM
BUT, UH, SHOULD THE SIGN BE CLOSER TO WHERE THE CONVENIENCE STORE IS GONNA BE LOCATED? WHAT'S THE SO MY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'RE POSTING THE, THE SIGN SO THAT, THAT IT CAN BE VISIBLE SINCE IT'S THAT, UH, CHAPPING, UH, UH, RETAIL, UH, AREA, SO THAT, UH, PEOPLE COULD, UH, COULD SEE IT.
AND THAT'S WHAT IT WAS, UH, PLACED, LIKE FRONTING THE, THE, THE STREET.
SO MY UNDERSTANDING AND, UM, UH, I CAN BE CORRECTED IF, UH, IS THAT, THAT THAT GIVES A BETTER, UH, UH, NOTICE AS IF IT WAS POSTED ON THE, ON, ON THE, ON THE SUITE, THEN IT, IT WILL BE A LOT MORE DIFFICULT FOR THE, UM, AREA TO DO.
AND SINCE THAT, THAT THE RETAIL FRONT, THAT THAT TWO STREETS, THEN THAT'S, THAT'S WHY THE, UH, WE REQUIRE TWO, UH, NOTIFICATION SIGNS.
AND, AND HE, HE'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND I'LL ADD IN CODE THAT IT DOES SAY THAT IT SHOULD BE VIEWABLE FROM THE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
AND I THINK, SO GENERALLY WE INTERPRET THAT WHEN WE HAVE SUITES LIKE THIS, THAT THEY SHOULD STILL PUT IT AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
AND OF COURSE, THE AREAS OF REQUEST FOR ZONING DO GO OUT TO THE, THE STREETS TYPICALLY.
UM, BUT WHEN WE HAVE AN AREA OF REQUEST, WHICH IS NOT THE CASE HERE, BUT IF WE DO SOMETIMES HAVE INDIVIDUAL SUITES THAT AREAS OF REQUEST, WE STILL DO DIRECT OUR APPLICANTS TO PUT THEM AT THE PROPERTY LINE.
UM, THE SITE PLANS WILL LIMIT THEM TO THE SUITE.
BUT, YOU KNOW, OUR CODE GENERALLY DIRECTS US TO HAVE IT VIEWABLE FROM THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY.
THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? WHEN ARE YOU HOLDING THAT TO, UH, PENDING MY CONVERSATION WITH MR. BALDWIN.
ITEM NUMBER EIGHT, UH, COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH, WOULD YOU LIKE THIS ONE BRIEFED? NO, I THINK WE'LL HOLD IT UNTIL NEXT TIME.
SO THAT'S GOING TO BE SEPTEMBER 3RD.
MOVING ALONG TO OUR UNDER ADVISEMENT ITEMS. UM, ITEM NUMBER NINE, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, I CAN'T RECALL IF THIS ONE'S BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE.
WOULD YOU LIKE TO BRIEF OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? UH, NO.
MR. CHAIR, THE APPLICANT WILL ACTUALLY LIKE THIS ONE MOVED AND MOVED TO A LATER DATE.
HOPEFULLY BE MUCH COOLER BY THEN.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, ITEM NUMBER 10.
ANYONE ELSE? ITEM NUMBER 11, WOULD YOU LIKE A BRIEFING ON THAT ONE OR ANY QUESTIONS? ITEM NUMBER 12, COMMISSIONER REALER, WOULD YOU LIKE THIS ITEM BRIEFED? NO.
ANYONE ELSE QUESTIONS ON ITEM NUMBER 12? ALL RIGHT.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU WANT A BRIEFING ON THIS ONE?
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UH, NO.MR. CHAIR, UH, THE APPLICANT WILL LIKE THIS ONE MOVE TO DECEMBER 3RD.
MR. SAME APPLICANT AS THEN THE LAST ONE.
AND THEN ITEM NUMBER 14, YOU AGAIN? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, UM, BRIEFING ON THIS ITEM? NOT NECESSARY.
UNLESS, UNLESS SOMEBODY ELSE WANTS IT.
ANYONE HAVE QUESTIONS OR WANT IT BRIEFED? ITEM NUMBER 15.
COMMISSIONER COX, WOULD YOU LIKE A BRIEFING ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
I, I DON'T NEED A BRIEF, BUT I DO HAVE JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR STAFF.
HASHMI? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS.
UH, MS. SASHIMI, I'M LOOKING AT THE CASE REPORT AND UNDER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, IS IT YOUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THE LANGUAGE IN THIS CASE REPORT UNDER DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS REGARDING THE POTENTIAL NON-CONFORMITY WAS INADVERTENTLY CARRIED OVER FROM A PREVIOUS VERSION? YES.
YEAH, I'VE ALREADY DISCUSSED IT WITH THE APPLICANT AND I WILL FIX IT FOR THE, UH, COUNCIL REPORT.
AND THEN ALSO, UM, I, I UNDERSTAND, UH, FROM THE APPLICANT REPRESENTATIVE THAT A DATA TABLE SHOWING THE TOTAL BUILDING AREA SQUARE FOOTAGE IS GOING TO BE ADDED.
AND THEN FINALLY, UNDER BACKGROUND INFORMATION, UH, BULLET NUMBER FOUR, UH, IT READS, THE REQUEST PROPOSES AMENDMENTS TO THE PD CONDITIONS TO MODERNIZE THE DISTRICT REGULATIONS, CODIFY THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, APPLY CURRENT DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE PARKING REGULATIONS.
YEAH, BECAUSE IT WAS THE INITIAL INTENT OF THE REQUEST, BUT IT HAS CHANGED.
I NEED TO, UH, FIX THAT AS WELL.
YEAH, AND I'LL JUST SAY, I, WE TRY AND WHEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE ITERATIONS OF THESE CASE ORDERS IS INFORMATION FOR EVERYONE.
I, I LIKE TO HAVE A LIGHT TOUCH WITH THE ORIGINAL TEXT FOR TRANSPARENCY PURPOSES.
AND AS BEST WE CAN, WE TRY AND LAYER ON THAT INFORMATION AS WE GO.
AND I, I LIKE TO, TO AT THE VERY LEAST, SEE WHAT WE WERE ORIGINALLY AT.
UM, I CAN RECOGNIZE THAT THAT BEING CONFUSING, BUT WE'RE HAPPY TO CLARIFY, BUT WE WILL TRY AND ADD ON AS WE GO TO THE, THE BOTTOM OF THESE SECTIONS.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, ARE THERE UPDATES SINCE, UM, SINCE WHAT, WHAT'S OCCURRED IN THE DOCKET AND HAVE THEY BEEN DISTRIBUTED? I DON'T THINK SO.
THAT YOU DON'T THINK THEY'RE UPDATES OR YOU DON'T THINK THEY'VE BEEN DIS NO, THEY WILL UPDATE IT, BUT I DON'T THINK THAT IT'LL BE IN THIS, UM, DOCUMENT.
COULD WE GET BRIEFED ON THE UPDATES THEN? PLEASE.
I, I WILL ASK, ASK THEM TO DO THAT.
ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US A LIST OF THE UPDATES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE TO THE PD CONDITIONS? UH, THERE WASN'T ANY UPDATES TO THE PD CONDITIONS.
PD WILL, UH, CONDITIONS WILL STAY THE SAME.
THE, THE ONLY THING IS DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT THEY WILL ADD A TABLE, UH, TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND ALSO SOME PART OF THE REPORT, NOT THE PD CONDITIONS.
THE PD CONDITIONS IS OKAY RIGHT NOW.
SO WHAT WERE THE UPDATES MADE TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN? UH, IT'S, UH, JUST A DATA TABLE THAT SHOWS THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF BUILDINGS AND THE REQUIRED PARKING BASED ON THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF THE BUILDINGS.
RIGHT NOW, IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT TABLE.
BUT IF THEY WANTED TO, YOU KNOW, PUT IN NEW BUILDINGS OR KNOCK THOSE BUILDINGS DOWN AND PUT IN BUILDING TO THE DIFFERENT FOOTPRINT, THEY'D NEED TO COME BACK TO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN ANYWAY.
AND THEN I KNOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS TO GO WITH BASE CODE AFTER PARKING REFORM.
CAN YOU KIND OF COMPARE THAT TO WHERE THE, UM, APPLICANT'S REQUEST IS AT? UH, RIGHT NOW THERE ARE 500 PARKING SPACES, AND BASED ON THE APPLICANT, UH, THEY ARE ALL UNDERUTILIZED.
AND THE EXISTING PARKING REQUIREMENT TIED TO EACH LOT.
THAT'S, UH, WHY IT LIMITS THE, UH, LEASE, UH, OF, UH, EXISTING SPACES.
SO THE INITIAL REQUEST WAS DEFAULTING THE PARKING REQUIREMENT TO OUR BASE CODE, WHICH WITH THAT, UH, MOST OF, UM, UH, REQUIREMENT FOR OFFICES, UH, RESTAURANTS ON THEIR 2,500 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE ZERO.
UH, BUT AFTER BACK AND FORTH WITH COMMISSIONER
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AND COMMUNITY, NOW THEY PROPOSE THREE ONE SPACE PER 300 A SQUARE FOOT OF PROPERTIES, WHICH IS A UNIFORM, NOT A SPECIFIC, NOT USE A SPECIFIC RATIO.AND, UM, WITH THAT, NOW, THEY WILL, UH, NEED TO PROVIDE 322 SPACES.
AND SO THAT MEANS, YOU KNOW, ANYTIME SOMEONE COMES IN FOR A CO THAT THE PROCESS REQUIRES STAFF TO COUNT THE NUMBER OF PARKING SPACES FOR THE ENTIRE, I GUESS, PD OR AT LEAST THE ENTIRE LOT, AND DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE, ARE BEING YES, SATISFIED.
THAT'S WHY WE WANTED TO DEFAULT INTO BASECO TO NOT TO DO THAT.
AND WHAT'S THE SORT OF, I MEAN, HOW LONG DOES THAT TAKE? I KNOW WE HEARD THAT IT, YOU KNOW, THE FOLKS IN PERMITTING DO SPEND A, BEFORE PARKING REFORM IN A MEANINGFUL AMOUNT OF TIME COUNTING PARKING SPACES.
DO YOU HAVE A SENSE? I, I'D LOVE TO SPEAK TO THAT.
AND, AND IT OFTEN GETS MORE DIFFICULT WITH THE OLDER PROPERTY AS THE LONGER BACK IT WAS DEVELOPED, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT THIS WAS, WAS DEVELOPED, UM, AT LEAST IN THE, IN THE SIXTIES OR EARLY SEVENTIES.
AND SO THE OLDER PROPERTY IS THE MORE KIND OF VARIATIONS THERE ARE IN, IN CREDITS AND THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOT TO MENTION THE WAY THAT THINGS ARE STRIPED AND ALL OF THAT, I'D SAY IT TAKES A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF TIME, UM, AND EFFORT FOR BOTH OUR STAFF AND THE, UM, DEPARTMENT, EXCUSE ME, THE APPLICANT THEMSELVES, TO PROVE, UM, WHERE THINGS ARE OR WHATNOT.
UM, EVEN THOUGH WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE SIGNIFICANT SPACES, AND AGAIN, PART OF THE CONFUSION HERE COMES FROM THIS IS A PD, UH, IT LOOKS LIKE ONE PD ONE DISTRICT, BUT IT SPANS OVER A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT LOTS.
AND, AND RIGHT NOW YOU CAN'T GENERALLY SHARE LOTS A LOT IN AN EASY WAY.
AND THEN IT GETS EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO, IF YOU DO WANT TO SHARE BETWEEN LOTS, YOU HAVE TO OFTEN DO DISTRICT, UH, THE USES OR TIMES OR THINGS LIKE THAT TO SAY, UM, YOU KNOW, THIS PARKING IS SET ASIDE FOR THIS USE AND THIS IS NOT SET ASIDE FOR, FOR THIS OTHER USE.
UM, THAT IS A, WHERE A LOT OF THE, UH, DRAMA COMES IN AND, AND THE TIME.
SO I UNDERSTAND A BIG PART OF PARKING REFORM IS NOT, IT DOESN'T TAKE AWAY THE PARKING.
IT, IT TAKES A LOT OF THE BURDEN OFF OF THE CITY AND, AND THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER, UM, VERSUS, UH, A LARGER DEVELOPER WHEN THEY'RE DOING THE LARGE DEVELOPMENT, THEY ALWAYS DO ACCOUNT FOR PARKING.
BUT, UM, IN THIS CASE, THAT'S KIND OF WHY WE LIKE TO DEFAULT BACK TO IT.
UH, THE BASE CODE AND THE BASE CODE DOESN'T HAVE NO REGULATIONS.
IT, IT STILL HAS, UH, SIGNIFICANT REQUIREMENTS FOR THINGS LIKE, LIKE RESTAURANTS AND, AND A LOT OF THOSE KINDS OF USES MULTIFAMILY AS WELL.
UM, BUT, SO THIS WOULD REQUIRE THE ONE TO 300 RATIO FOR ALL OF THE USES, UM, WHICH WILL BE, UM, A LOWER AMOUNT OF REQUIREMENT FOR SOME USES AND A MAYBE A HIGHER, UM, THAN BASE CODE OR THE OLD BASE CODE FOR SOME.
AND I SEE THAT SORT OF TO THE EAST OF THE PROPERTY, THERE IS A, A NEIGHBORHOOD.
UH, DO YOU VIEW THAT THIS BEING A RISK FOR MUCH SPILLOVER PARKING IF THIS WEREN'T ADEQUATELY PARKED? UM, EXCUSE ME, MR. CHAIR, CAN YOU SPEAK UP A LITTLE BIT? I CAN'T HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND THIS CASE IS OBVIOUSLY IMPORTANT TO ME.
DO YOU, DO YOU SEE THE, A RISK OF THERE BEING SPILLOVER PARKING INTO THE, UM, NEIGHBORHOOD TO THE EAST OF THIS FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT? I, UH, DURING MY SITE VISIT, I DIDN'T MM-HMM
BUT MAYBE THIS IS A, UH, APPLICANT QUESTION.
AND THERE WAYS THAT A, A NEIGHBORHOOD CAN, YOU KNOW, RESTRICT PARKING AND HELP, YOU KNOW, AVOID SPILL OVER PARKING, ASIDE FROM JUST MANDATING A CERTAIN NUMBER OF SPOTS ON, ON SITE, I, YOU'RE ASKING IF THERE ARE, ARE OTHER WAYS MM-HMM
UM, AND ONE OF THOSE BEING THAT NO PARKING SIGNS, YOU KNOW, THAT'S, UH, EASY TO IT, IT CAN BE SIMPLY DONE, UM, WITH TRANSPORTATION, OUR COUNCIL OFFICES REQUEST THEM A LOT AND IT, AND IT DOES, UM, APPEAR TO HELP NEIGHBORS OUT.
UM, OTHER, OTHERWISE, YOU KNOW, A, A BIG PART OF IT IS, I THINK WE HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT AND FROM OUR OBSERVATIONS THAT THERE IS NOT HIGH UTILIZATION AT THIS SITE.
AND SO THAT'S, I THINK WHY WE DIDN'T HAVE A CONCERN.
UH, ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? I'M, I'M LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS HERE, BUT MAYBE YOU COULD JUST
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HELP ME.UM, SO THE ONE TO 300 APPLIES TO ANY USE, SO APPLIES TO RESTAURANT, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, APPLIES TO RETAIL.
IF THE APPLICANT WERE TO EXERCISE THEIR RIGHTS UNDER SB EIGHT 40 AND DO MULTIFAMILY, THE ONE TO 300 WOULD BE WILDLY OVER PARKED.
AND SO THEY WOULD COME BACK IN AND SEEK ANOTHER AMENDMENT TO THE PD.
I GOT THAT, UM, UNDER EIGHT 40.
UNDER EIGHT 40, IF A DEVELOPMENT IS BUILT, IT'S A, IT'S A, WHAT DO YOU CALL IT? WHAT'S THE WORD? A MULTIFAMILY MIXED USE PROJECT UNDER THE DEFINITION OF EIGHT 40, WHICH IS A 65 35 PROJECT.
UM, SO YOU CAN HAVE A MIXED USE COMPONENT, YOU CAN HAVE A RETAIL COMPONENT IN THOSE SORTS OF THINGS.
THE BILL SAYS WE CAN'T HAVE THAT DEVELOPMENT REQUIRE MORE THAN ONE SPACE PER UNIT.
SO THE, FOR THE RETAIL COMPONENTS, THERE WOULDN'T BE A REQUIREMENT IF THEY WERE TO GO VERTICAL AND DO A MIXED USE, SMALL MIXED PROJECT UNDER EIGHT 40, THEY WOULD JUST HAVE TO PROVIDE THE ONE SPACE PER UNIT FOR THAT PROJECT.
HASHIMI, HOW DID, WHERE DID THE ONE TO 300 COME FROM? WHAT DOES THAT RELATE TO? WHAT, HOW DOES THAT, HOW IS THAT, UH, SUBSTANTIATED FROM A, A USE AND A NEED STANDPOINT? UH, I THINK THIS IS THE APPLICANT QUESTION AS WELL.
I THINK THEY WORKED WITH THE COMMISSIONER, A COUNCIL MEMBER TO GET TO THAT NUMBER, BUT, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THESE NUMBER EXACTLY COME FROM.
SO DO YOU THINK THIS MIGHT BE ARBITRARY? I DON'T THINK SO.
BUT
AND SO COULD I ASK MR. PEPE A QUESTION? SURE.
UM, SO YOU MADE A REMARK EARLIER.
I THINK I FOLLOW, UH, THE, WHEN I LOOK AT THE, UM, SOME OF THE EXHIBITS HERE, WHILE THIS PD COVERS A SUBSTANTIAL FRONTAGE ON PRESTON ROAD, IT'S NEVER BEEN PLATTED AS ONE LOT, IT'S LOOKS LIKE IT'S LIKE FOUR OR FIVE LOTS.
SO, SO THAT THEN COMPLICATES YOUR WORK AT BUILDING INSPECTION TO TRACK ALL THESE VARIOUS PARKING COUNTS BY PARCEL, BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT, BECAUSE YOU CAN'T TAKE IT AS A SINGLE PD.
YOU HAVE TO DO IT BY, BY PLATTED PARCEL, THAT THAT'S EXACTLY RIGHT.
AND SO COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES CAN'T EASILY SHARE A PARKING ONE TO ANOTHER.
IT, IT'S A FAIRLY ENCUMBERED PROCESS.
I'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS.
I, I THINK IT, IT'S IMPORTANT WITH THIS CASE, BECAUSE IT IS SOMEWHAT OF AN ANOMALY.
YOU'VE GOT FOUR OWNERS, UH, THAT COMPRISE THE OWNERSHIP OF THIS, THIS DEVELOPMENT, AND YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT, RIGHT? AND SO IT'S ALSO CURRENTLY WITH THE PD, THERE IS ZONING, I'M SORRY, PARKING IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THIS PD.
AND SO WE, WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK ABOUT THE EXISTING PARKING RATIOS, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, MY UNDERSTANDING IS, AND YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS, THERE ARE CURRENTLY 562 PARKING SPACES.
THE ONE TO 300 RATIO WOULD ACTUALLY BRING THAT DOWN SIGNIFICANTLY TO 322, I BELIEVE, ROUGHLY MM-HMM
AND SO JUST TO, TO SHED A LITTLE BIT OF LIGHT ON THIS, IF I COULD, MR. CHAIR, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, SOMEBODY ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER, IS THE ONE TO 300 RATIO ARBITRARY? I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS.
UH, IT WAS A ARRIVED BACK IT COMMENT FOR THIS, THIS AFTERNOON.
SO MS. HASHIMI, A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS FOR YOU THEN.
UNDER THE PARKING REFORM ORDINANCE, CITYWIDE STANDARDS APPLY ONLY WHEN A PD IS SILENT.
IS THAT CORRECT? COULD YOU REPEAT IT PLEASE? UNDER PARKING REFORM, UHHUH
YEAH, WELL, I MEAN, THAT WAS KIND OF A YES NO QUESTION.
IS IT? OH, THERE IS NO YES, NO QUESTIONS WITH PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS
AND, AND SHE'S REMINDING ME THAT VERY, AND I DON'T WANNA SAY NEVER, BUT ALMOST ALWAYS THERE, THE PD FIRST SAYS, LOOK BACK AT CHAPTER 51 OR 51 A, AND THEN
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IT MAY SPECIFY A RATIO.THOSE, IF THAT RATIO IS SPECIFIED IN THAT PD, IT'LL OVERRIDE.
UM, BUT THEN OTHERWISE IT WILL DEFAULT BACK.
SO IS IS STAFF ASSERTING THAT A REDUCTION IN THE RATIOS CONSTITUTES THE ELIMINATION OF PARKING ELIMINATION? OKAY.
SO THEN, IF SO, WELL, OKAY, FINE.
IF, IS THERE ANY LEGAL BARRIER PREVENTING THE APPLICANT FROM REQUESTING A REDUCTION OF PD SPECIFIC RATIOS WHILE RE WHILE RETAINING PD SPECIFIC STANDARDS? THE, THE APPLICANT CAN, CAN REQUEST WHATEVER, UH, EXCUSE ME, WHATEVER, UH, RATIO THEY WANT IN THIS PD.
WE HAVE GOT AN DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION THAT DEFAULTS TO DIFFERENT RATIOS THAT ARE IN OUR BASE CODE, BECAUSE AT THIS, YOU KNOW, ANY ZONING DOCUMENT IS NOT JUST ABOUT A BURDEN ON AN APPLICANT.
IT'S ABOUT A BURDEN ON THE CITY, AND IT'S A, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO ENFORCE CERTAIN RULES.
UM, SO WE CAN'T JUST PUT ANYTHING THAT A APPLICANT LIKES IN A PD, UM, SAID IT IS, IT IS LEGALLY PERMISSIBLE FOR THEM TO DO SO THAT'S, BUT SIMPLY WE HAVE A DIFFERENT RECOMMENDATION.
SO IS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BASED ON, UH, SPECIFIC CRITERIA? YES.
THE CITYWIDE PO, THE CITYWIDE POLICY ADOPTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL WHEN THEY HAD AMENDED OUR OVERALL PARKING CODE.
SO THE, THE 2025 PARKING REFORM? YES.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER HAD HER HAND UP.
I THOUGHT YOU WERE, AND ONE, ONE LAST QUESTION, AND MR. PEPE MAY WANT TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION.
DOES STAFF AGREE THAT ONLY THE CITY COUNCIL CAN REMOVE OR REPLACE PD SPECIFIC RATIOS? ALL ZONING IS, IS DETERMINED AT THE CITY COUNCIL.
SO, UM, IN, IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THIS, ESPECIALLY SINCE IT'S FOR FOUR DIFFERENT OWNERS, ARE THEY ALSO GONNA HAVE TO ENTER INTO A PARKING AG UH, A PARKING AGREEMENT AND THROUGH THIS HAS TO BE SIGNED OFF THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND, AND FILED WITH THE COUNTY AND THE CITY.
IF THEY WANT TO SHARE PARKING ACROSS PROPERTY LINES, AND I DON'T HAVE THE PARKING OR THE PROPERTY LINES MEMORIZED HERE, BUT IN A, IN A TIGHT RETAIL ENVIRONMENT WHERE THE LINES CROSS, RARELY ARE THESE BUSINESSES IN PARKING LOTS OF THIS SIZE DIVIDING UP SPACES, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE AT BUILDING INSPECTION ARE COUNTING THE SPACES ON A SITE PLAN AND ACCOUNTING AND TABULATING FOR THEM IN IF SHARED IN A DEED RESTRICTION.
SO IS THAT BECAUSE SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS, SOME OF THE PARKING AGREEMENTS WERE DONE PRIOR TO GOING DIRECTLY THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
HAVE WE ALREADY, HAVE YOU ALL LOOKED TO SEE, HAVE THOSE ALREADY BEEN PLACED IN PLACE? BECAUSE THE ONES THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HAPPENED, UM, MAYBE 10 YEARS AGO, ONES PRIOR TO WAS MORE OF A READING NOTARIZED LETTER BETWEEN TWO PROPERTY OWNERS? HAVE THAT BEEN CHECKED YET? I I, WHAT'S I, I'M SORRY.
WHAT, WHAT'S THE HEART OF THE QUESTION? UM, SO PRIOR TO 10 YEARS, PRIOR TO ROUGHLY ABOUT 10 YEARS AGO WHEN THEY STARTED DOING THE ACTUAL ONES THAT HAD TO GO THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND LEAVE IT THEN BE FILED AT THE COUNTY, THEY WERE DOING THE WRITTEN, UM, THE WRITTEN, UM, PARKING, UH, SHERIFF PARKING AGREEMENTS BETWEEN TWO PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEN NOTARIZED, AND THEN ON FILE AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES.
WAS THOSE CHECKED TO SEE IF THOSE ARE ALREADY IN PLACE? I, WE HAVE NOT CHECKED, IF ANY ARE IN PLACE HERE.
UM, IS THERE A REASON WHY, SINCE WE'RE ASKING FOR, SINCE SUPPORT PROPERTY OWNERS ARE COMING TOGETHER TO SEE IF THAT IS ALREADY IN PLACE? BECAUSE IF, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS DON'T HAVE IT IN PLACE, THEN ISN'T THIS ALMOST, UH, PREMATURE? I WOULD, I WOULDN'T SAY 'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE HERE AMENDING THE, THE FUNDAMENTAL RATIOS, THEY STILL HAVE TO PROVIDE THOSE AT, AT PERMITTING.
IF SHARING IS GOING ON AND THOSE, THAT HAS TO BE DONE, I, I WOULD NOT WANT TO PULL ALL OF THE COS AND ALL OF THE AGREEMENTS THAT MAY, UM, EXIST AND THE APPLICANT COULD SPEAK TO WHAT THEY HAVE.
I WOULD NOT SAY IT'S NECESSARY.
AND IT IS, AS WE SAID, VERY, VERY INVOLVED.
BECAUSE USUALLY IT'S NOT BETWEEN THE COS IT'S BE BETWEEN, IT'S BETWEEN PROPERTY OWNER, PROPERTY OWNER.
UM, BUT I, I WOULD THINK THAT EVEN
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THOUGH IF WE'RE PUTTING THIS IN PLACE, IF THEY DON'T HAVE A INSURED AGREEMENT FILED, UM, PER PROPERTY AND ALLOWS INSURED PROPERTY BETWEEN THE TWO, IT DOESN'T REALLY WORK, EVEN IF IT'S APPROVED, BECAUSE, UM, I CAN DECIDE, I DON'T WANT YOU TO PARK ON MY PROPERTY OR YOUR CLIENT OR YOUR TENANTS TO BE ABLE TO HAVE ACCESS.I THINK THAT DEFINITELY NEEDS TO BE CONSIDERED WHILE WE'RE DOING THIS PROCESS.
I, UM, YEAH, IT'S GONNA MAKE IT HARDER.
IT WILL MAKE IT HARDER AT WHEN YOU, WHEN YOU'RE AT DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND THEY ARE HAVING ACCOUNT PARKING, UM, HAVING THAT, SHOWING THAT THAT'S ALREADY ON FILE DOES MAKE THAT PROCESS EVEN FASTER.
COMMISSIONER, FASTER WE ARE, I'M NOT SURE, SURE.
THE SPECIFIC SHARED PARKING AGREEMENTS, WHETHER THEY EXIST OR NOT, OR RELEVANT TO THE ZONING CASE IN FRONT OF US TODAY, I THINK, OH, I CAN, IF IT, IF THERE, IF IT'S POOR PROPERTY, UM, CHAIR, IF IT'S POOR PROPERTY OWNERS, I, I, I WOULD BE CONCERNED ABOUT THAT BECAUSE IF WE'RE DOING, IF EVEN IF IT'S IN A PD AND NEEDS OTHER TO FOR PROPERTY OWNERS, THEN WITHOUT THAT CHARTER AGREEMENT, THE PD DOESN'T WORK.
I, I, I THINK I, DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER, DO YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER WHEELER? NO, I, I'LL ASK THAT.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS CASE? COMMISSIONERS? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU WANT THIS ONE BRIEFED? I THINK THAT MAY BE HELPFUL FOR THE COMMISSIONER.
USUALLY THE CRICKETS COME AFTER I TRY TO MAKE A JOKE LIKE THAT.
THIS IS CASE Z 25 94 IS AN APPLICATION FOUR ONE AN AMENDMENTS OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 800 AND THE CREATION AND EXPANSION OF NEW SUBDISTRICTS THEREIN FOR SPECIFIED NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE ON PROPERTY ZONE PD 800 ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF CA STREET BETWEEN RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD AND THE UNI PACIFIC RAILROAD AND THE NORTH AND SOUTH WIND RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD NORTHWEST OF CORINTH STREET.
IT'S ABOUT 16 AND A HALF ACRES IN SIZE OVER ON, WELL, AS YOU CAN SEE ON RIVERFRONT, RIGHT ON THE, SORT OF THE CEDARS WEST AREA, SOUTHWEST OF THE CEDARS PROPER.
UH, THIS IS THE AERIAL MAP SHOWING THE AREA OF REQUEST.
AS YOU CAN SEE, IT'S A VERY LARGE UNDEVELOPED SITE, UM, RIVERFRONT RUNNING THROUGH ALONG HERE.
THE ZONING, IT'S DESPITE BEING LARGE, THERE'S REALLY JUST TWO PREDOMINANT NEARBY ZONING DISTRICTS.
THERE'S PD THREE 17, WHICH IS THE CEDARS PD TO THE NORTH EAST, AND THEN PD 7 84, WHICH IS THE CEDARS WEST PD, UH, SURROUNDING THE REST OF THE SITE.
OVER ON THE CEDARS, OF COURSE, THERE'S A MIX OF RESIDENTIAL, RETAIL, COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT, ET CETERA.
THEN OVER LONG RIVERFRONT, A MIX OF RETAIL PERSONAL SERVICE, RESTAURANT VEHICLE SALES.
OVER IN THE SOUTHEASTERN SIDE, YOU HAVE A MIX OF LIGHTER INDUSTRIAL USES AS WELL.
SO THE AREA OF REQUEST UNDEVELOPED AND THEY WISH TO DEVELOP THE SITE WITH SPAS AND HOTEL LODGING AMONG OTHER USES, AND THEY'RE REQUESTING AN AMENDMENT TO PD 800.
UH, WE'LL GET INTO MORE OF THE DETAILS THERE AND EXPLAIN KIND OF WHAT'S, WHAT'S GOING ON HERE.
UM, I'LL SAY THE LONG AND SHORT IS THAT WHEN YOU'RE AMENDING A VERY DETAILED PD LIKE THIS, IT LOOKS PRETTY SCARY WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL THE CONDITIONS BECAUSE THERE'S STRIKETHROUGHS AND BRACKETS AND THIS AND THAT.
UH, BUT THE LONG AND SHORT IS IT'S CHANGING SOME OF THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS TO ACCOMMODATE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT.
THESE ARE SOME SITE PHOTOS THAT WE TOOK, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I GOT THESE BEFORE I GOT MY DRONES.
I DON'T HAVE ANY GOOD AERIAL PHOTOS HERE.
UH, BUT JUST TO PAINT A PICTURE OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE ALONG CAGE STREET SPECIFICALLY, UH, LOOK IN SOUTHWEST HERE.
I THINK IF ANY OF YOU HAVE DRIVEN THROUGH HERE, IT LOOKS A LITTLE DIFFERENT RIGHT NOW WITH ALL THE CONSTRUCTION GOING ON.
UH, NOT THAT THERE WASN'T CONSTRUCTION WHEN I TOOK THESE PHOTOS, IT'S JUST EVER EXPANDING AND LOOK IN SOUTHWEST, AND THEN THESE ARE FROM GOOGLE STREET VIEW.
I WAS A BIT DIFFICULT TO TRY TO GET PHOTOS MYSELF, UH, GIVEN THE CURRENT STATE OF RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD.
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MAY, 2025 AND WAS LOOKING SOUTH TOWARDS THE SOUTHERN PORTION ON THE SOUTH LINE OF RIVERFRONT B BOULEVARD.SO THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS, UH, THIS TABLE HERE, IT'S, IT'S, THERE'S A LOT THAT'S CHANGED THAT I DON'T THINK YOU CAN REALLY FIT INTO A TABLE HERE.
UH, THE MAIN THING IS THAT THE BUILD TWO ZONES, WHICH YOU CAN READ AS SETBACKS, UH, WOULDN'T APPLY TO THE REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
UM, THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN, THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, WHICH THIS ALSO WILL SERVE AS THE SEP SITE PLAN.
UH, THE CRUX OF IT IS THAT SUBDISTRICT ONE, THERE'S THIS DEFINITION THAT'S BEEN ENTERED FOR A REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS, WHICH WOULD INCLUDE A WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER, UH, WHICH IS ESSENTIALLY THE SPA DEVELOPMENT, AS WELL AS SUPPORTING USES INCLUDING HOTEL MULTIFAMILY, RETAIL, PERSONAL SERVICE, ET CETERA.
UH, THE CAMPUS IS CONTIGUOUS WITH SUBDISTRICT ONE IN THIS CASE.
UH, IT SPANS ACROSS WHAT WOULD BE A NEW ROAD HERE, UH, AND AN EXTENSION OF HOTEL STREET ON THE NORTH SIDE AND ACROSS SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD INTO THIS AREA AS WELL.
THERE'S TWO HASH MARKED AREAS RIGHT HERE.
UH, THIS ONE IS MARKED AS OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA.
THIS ONE IS MARKED AS PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE AREA.
AND THE REASON FOR THAT DISTINCTION IS JUST THE WAY THAT OUR DEPARTMENT CLASSIFIES SKY BRIDGES.
UH, GENERALLY SPEAKING, IF THEY'RE SIMPLY A CONVEYANCE BETWEEN STRUCTURES, THAT'S CONSIDERED A SKYBRIDGE AND IT NEEDS AN SUP, UH, WHEN IT HAS OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA WHERE IT'S PART OF THE MAIN USE OVERALL, UH, THEN IT DOESN'T REQUIRE AN SUP.
OF COURSE, THERE'S STILL REQUIREMENTS FOR REAL ESTATE LICENSES, ET CETERA, FROM THE CITY TO CROSS OVER PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY.
BUT THAT FALLS OUTSIDE THE PURVIEW OF THE ZONING PROCESS ITSELF.
THE SUBDISTRICT MAP, THIS SUBDISTRICT ONE, AGAIN, THAT'S WHAT'S GONNA CONTAIN THE REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
SUBDISTRICT TWO IS THIS PORTION OVER HERE TO THE WEST GOING TOWARDS CADA STREET.
IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE CONDITIONS ONE OF THE USES THAT'S ALLOWED IN SUBDISTRICT TWO BY SUP AS A CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE YARD, OUR UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THIS IS GOING TO BE USED, OR PART OF THAT WILL BE USED AS A YARD FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE VARIOUS IMPROVEMENTS OCCURRING ALONG RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD, CADAS, ET CETERA.
UH, AS SUCH, WE'RE ALLOWING THE USE BY SEP SUCH THAT IF AN SEP IS REQUESTED, IT WILL BE TIME LIMITED AND JUST THERE FOR THE DURATION OF THOSE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, SUBDISTRICT THREE TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE, OR SOUTHEAST OF THE SITE, THAT WILL BE PART OF THE FUTURE.
UH, SUBDISTRICT FOUR IS, UH, TO BE DETERMINED, BUT IT IS PART OF THE PD.
NOW, THE CONDITIONS, SO THE INTENT, AGAIN, THEY'RE CREATING A SITE THAT OFFERS SPAS, POOLS, WATER AMUSEMENT AMENITIES, ET CETERA.
THERE'S A CUSTOM DEFINITION OF THE REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS, UH, WHICH INCLUDES WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER, WHICH IS ALSO A CUSTOM DEFINITION.
UH, AND WITH THOSE DEFINITIONS, THERE ARE VARIOUS KIND OF CHANGES IN DEVIATIONS FROM THE ORIGINAL PDS DESIGN STANDARDS.
UH, THE IDEA THERE IS THAT A LOT OF THOSE DESIGN STANDARDS, THEY'RE VERY WELL AND GOOD FOR WHAT COULD BE BUILT ON THIS SITE, BUT IN SOME CASES, GIVEN THE NATURE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE, A LARGE, YOU KNOW, SPA AND WHATNOT WITH POOLS AND BOTH INDOOR AND OUTDOOR POOLS, ET CETERA, UH, IT MAY NOT ALWAYS MAKE SENSE TO, FOR INSTANCE, HAVE SEVERAL PEDESTRIAN ENTRANCES ALONG THE WHOLE PART OF THAT BUILDING.
OR, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU GET INTO TRANSPARENCY REQUIREMENTS, UH, I'M SURE SOME OF Y'ALL HAVE SEEN SOME OF THE RENDERINGS THAT HAVE BEEN OUT IN THE NEWS.
THERE'S COMPONENTS THAT ARE VERY TRANSPARENT, BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO COMPONENTS WHERE YOU PROBABLY DON'T WANT TRANSPARENCY, UH, SAUNAS OR SPAS, FOR INSTANCE.
UM, IN TERMS OF THE WAYS TO REALLY PUT A BOUND ON THIS SO THAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IS WHAT GETS THOSE CHANGES, BUT NOTHING ELSE.
THERE'S A MINIMUM FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENT OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET WITHIN THE USES FOR WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
UH, THE IDEA THERE BEING THAT IF THIS WERE TO BE ADOPTED, UH, BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND THEN THE PROJECT DOESN'T COME TO FRUITION, YOU WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO SIMPLY PUT IN, UH, LA FITNESS YMCA, WHAT HAVE YOU, AND SUDDENLY GET ALL THESE, UH, CHANGES IN THE DESIGN STANDARDS AND WHATNOT.
UH, THE MINIMUM FLOOR AREA OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE WELLNESS AND AN EDUCATION CENTER AMONG SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT ARE IN THE DEFINITION FOR THAT AS WELL, UH, REALLY DO PUT A BOUND ON THIS SO THAT IT'S BASICALLY, IF THIS GETS BUILT, THEN IT GETS THOSE DESIGNED STANDARD CHANGES.
IF IT DOESN'T GET BUILT, IT GENERALLY DEFAULTS BACK TO THE BASE PD WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
THERE'S A LOT OF WORDS, BUT THIS IS, I THINK IN SOME WAYS PART OF HOW YOU MAKE IT ROBUST SO THAT IT DOESN'T SIMPLY LET AN LA FITNESS OR WHAT HAVE YOU.
AND THAT'S JUST THE FIRST ONE THAT COMES TO MIND.
I'M NOT PICKING ON LA FITNESS SPECIFICALLY, UM, BUT IT'S TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS REALLY FOCUSED ON THE PROPOSAL THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, SHOWN AND TOLD ABOUT, UH, WITHIN YOUR CONDITIONS ON THE DOCKET.
THIS DID INCLUDE THE MINIMUM SQUARE FOOTAGE REQUIREMENT AS WELL.
UH, BASED ON DISCUSSION WITH OUR ATTORNEY, WE DETERMINED THAT WASN'T NEARLY APPROPRIATE WITHIN THE DEFINITION, BUT IT IS WITHIN THE USE.
THAT'S WHERE IT PUTS THAT FLOOR FOR 250,000
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SQUARE FEET.UH, IT DOES ALLOW THAT CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE YARD BY SUP AND SUBDISTRICT TWO AS MENTIONED, THAT WOULD BE IN SUPPORT OF THE RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD CADAS, ET CETERA, IMPROVEMENTS.
IT DOES ALLOW COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE WELLNESS CAMPUS IN SUBDISTRICT ONE, BUT IT IS OTHERWISE BY SUP.
THERE'S A VARIETY OF DESIGN STANDARDS FOR THE ENTRANCES, FACADES, AND STOREFRONT TREATMENTS, AS WELL AS PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES FOR THE REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
UH, A LOT OF THIS WAS COME, CAME UP IN CONJUNCTION WITH MEETINGS THAT THE APPLICANT HAD WITH THE URBAN DESIGN PEER REVIEW PANEL, WHICH FOR THOSE OF Y'ALL WHO AREN'T AWARE OR FAMILIAR WITH THAT, UH, IT'S A SERVICE THAT THE CITY OFFERS WHERE WE HAVE OUR, UH, URBAN DESIGN TEAM AND OTHER, UH, STAKEHOLDERS AS WELL AS I BELIEVE, UH, SOME MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC THAT ARE APPOINTED ONTO IT, WHO REVIEW APPLICATIONS AND COME UP WITH SUGGESTIONS AND FEEDBACK ON WHAT THEY, UH, WHAT WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED.
UH, AGAIN, AS JUST AS STATED EARLIER, THE NATURE OF WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED HERE DIDN'T NECESSARILY LEND ITSELF WELL TO SOME OF THE BASE CONDITIONS IN HERE.
AND I THINK THE CHALLENGE WE HAD WAS FIGURING OUT HOW TO PROVIDE ENOUGH ALLOWANCES TO LET THE APPLICANT OR TO ENABLE THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WHILE STILL OVERALL MAINTAINING WHAT WE THINK WOULD BE GOOD PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED, UH, AND URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS THAT, YOU KNOW, APART FROM THE CAMPUS OR APART FROM THE WELLNESS CENTER ITSELF, WHICH AGAIN, THE WELLNESS CENTER IS THE BIG SPA FACILITY, MAKING SURE THAT THE REST OF IT'S GENERALLY COHESIVELY AND COHERENTLY DESIGNED AND DONE IN A WAY WHERE IT'S PROMOTING THIS BROADER VISION OF THE PD FOR AN URBAN, UH, AREA.
IT DOES REQUIRE NATIVE AND WELL ADAPTED SPECIES ALONG THE MEANDERS AND SUBDISTRICT ONE, UM, AS WELL AS PREVIOUS PAVING FOR FIRE LANES ALONG THE MEANDERS THAT IS SUBJECT TO APPROVAL BY FIRE CODE AT PERMITTING REVIEW.
UH, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM AND THAT I THINK THE APPLICANT HAS, AND, UH, I'LL JUST SAY THAT, UH, DFR REVIEW CAN SOMETIMES BE A LITTLE FINICKY ON, UH, PERVIOUS PAVEMENTS FOR FIRE LANES AS OPPOSED TO PARKING.
UH, BUT WE DO WANT TO HAVE THAT, UH, IN THERE THAT THEY AT LEAST NEED TO PROPOSE IT AND HAVE IT REVIEWED BY FIRE CODE.
IN TERMS OF THE SUITABILITY FORWARD, DALLAS DOES DESIGNATE THE SITE AS REGIONAL MIXED USE AND LODGING AND MIXED USES OUR PRIMARY USES WITHIN THAT PLACE TYPE.
UH, IN TERMS OF THE USES, WE DON'T FIND IT INCOMPATIBLE.
THEY WOULDN'T CONFLICT WITH ANY NEARBY USES.
THE PROPOSED DESIGN STANDARDS DO PROMOTE COMPATIBILITY WITH THE REGIONAL MIXED USE GOALS, UH, THE SKYBRIDGE SUP, IT DOES ALLOW CONNECTIVITY BETWEEN THE WELLNESS CAMPUS BUILDINGS AND THE GARAGE.
AND, YOU KNOW, LET'S GET INTO THAT A LITTLE BIT.
UH, SKYBRIDGE IS SOMETIMES, UH, RAISE THE AISLE, LET'S SAY, OF URBAN DESIGN PROFESSIONALS, UH, BECAUSE IN CERTAIN CASES THEY DO OR COULD DETRACT FROM ENGAGEMENT ON THE GROUND.
UM, THE IDEA BEING THAT IF YOU CAN JUST KIND OF GO BETWEEN BUILDING A TO BUILDING B TO BUILDING C WITHOUT GOING ON THE GROUND, IT TAKES AWAY FROM SOME OF THE LIVELINESS AND WHATNOT THAT'S COULD OCCUR ON THE PEDESTRIAN REALM AT THE GROUND LEVEL.
UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, IT REALLY IS A PRIMARILY A CONNECTOR BETWEEN THE, UH, GARAGE ITSELF AND THE WELLNESS, UH, WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
UH, BASED ON WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED IN THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THROUGH SOME OF THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE ON THE REQUIREMENTS FOR PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES ON THE GARAGE, I, WE DON'T FORESEE THAT THE SKY BRIDGE ITSELF WOULD NECESSARILY DETRACT FROM THAT, UH, PEDESTRIAN ENGAGEMENT AND ACTIVATION BECAUSE ALONG THER AWAY THE PROPOSAL FOR THAT NEW STREET OR THE NAME FOR THAT PROPOSED STREET, UH, THERE, THERE JUST REALLY WOULDN'T BE A WHOLE LOT OF PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES.
IN GENERAL, UH, THE MAJORITY OF IT'S GONNA BE ON THE CORNER OF HOTEL THERMA AND THEN A LONG HOTEL AS WELL.
UH, IT WILL MOST LIKELY SERVE JUST TO PROVIDE EASY CONVEYANCE, MAYBE WHEN IT'S REALLY HOT OUT OR WHEN IT'S NASTY WEATHER OUT, UH, BETWEEN THE GARAGE AND THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
UH, BUT WE WOULD FORESEE THAT, YOU KNOW, ASSUMING THE REST OF THE DEVELOPMENT COMES TO, YOU KNOW, COMES TO FRUITION AND REALLY ONLY GETS FLUSHED OUT, UH, THAT PEOPLE WOULD STILL BE INTERESTED IN EXPLORING THE REST OF THE, THE DISTRICT AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF WHAT IT COULD OFFER, UH, AS IT BUILDS OUT.
OUR RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF THE AMENDMENT TO PD 800, SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AMENDED EXHIBITS 800 A AND B AND AMENDED CONDITIONS, AND THE NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
UM, I'LL ALSO SAY THAT I THINK Y'ALL RECEIVED A SET OF UPDATED CONDITIONS FROM THE APPLICANT, UH, YESTERDAY.
STAFF HAS REVIEWED THEM, AND THOSE CHANGES WERE MADE, YOU KNOW, IN, IN CONCERT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS THAT CAME FROM, FROM STAFF.
UH, I WOULD SAY WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THOSE CHANGES IN THERE.
UH, I WILL SAY I'M IN DISCUSSION WITH TRANSPORTATION ON A SLIGHT CHANGE ON THE BIKE LANE LANGUAGE, JUST THERE'S A REFERENCE TO RUMBLE STRIPS THAT MAY CHANGE TO, UH, TACTILE DIRECTIONAL INDICATORS, I BELIEVE IS THE INDUSTRY TERM THEY PREFER.
UM, BUT OTHERWISE, I KNOW THAT WAS BOTH A LOT AND NOT A LOT IN THE, UH, BRIEFING.
SO HAPPY TO START TAKING QUESTIONS ON HERE.
I DO HAVE THE CONDITIONS PULLED UP.
JUST ONE CLARIFYING, UM, HOUSEKEEPING QUESTION BEFORE I GO TO MY COLLEAGUES.
YOU MENTIONED THAT THE APPLICANT CIRCULATED RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE AMENDED CONDITIONS YESTERDAY THAT
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STAFF IS GENERALLY FINE WITH, BUT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION IS STILL THE PREVIOUS RECOMMENDATION AND THE APPLICANT'S IS IT, OR WOULD THE APPLICANT'S CONDITIONS NEED TO BE, YOU KNOW, INCLUDED IN A MOTION? THEY WOULD EITHER NEED TO BE INCLUDED IN A MOTION OR I CAN READ 'EM INTO THE RECORD WHEN I INTRODUCE THE ITEM.I'VE GOT IT KIND OF READY TO ROCK HERE.
AND I'LL BE HAPPY TO SHARE, I'LL PRINT THOSE OUT JUST ONCE WE FINALIZE THESE LAST COUPLE DETAILS, I'LL PRINT THOSE OUT AND SHARE IT WITH THE COMMISSION SO THAT Y'ALL CAN FOLLOW ALONG AS LONG AS WE HAVE A CLEAN RECORD, WE'RE GOOD.
WELL, IT'S, IT'S IN YOUR DISTRICT, SO LET'S, LET'S GET RIGHT TO YOU,
WELL, THANK YOU, UH, MR. CHAIR AND THANK YOU MR. BATE, UM, FOR HELPING FIELD QUESTIONS THESE LAST FEW WEEKS.
UM, TWO ITEMS I WANTED TO, UM, CLARIFY.
THERE WAS A BASE PD CONDITIONS THAT EMBEDDED URBAN DESIGN STANDARDS, AND I, I KNOW YOU COVERED THIS, YOUR BRIEFING, I JUST WANNA MAYBE RESTATE IT AND MAKE SURE I'M FOLLOWING.
UM, KIND OF WHAT'S BEFORE THE BODY TODAY.
THOSE DON'T FIT WITH THE PROPOSED SUB AREA ONE USE, BUT SUB AREA ONE ALREADY EMBEDDED EXCEPTIONS FOR THE OBSERVATION WHEEL, WHICH IS NO LONGER MOVING FORWARD.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
THERE WERE A NUMBER OF EXCEPTIONS THAT WERE BUILT IN THERE FOR THE, AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY CALLED, I THINK THE REGIONAL OBSERVATION CAMPUS.
UH, AND I GUESS JUST AGAIN, SOME BACKGROUND AND, UH, COLOR FOR Y'ALL.
THIS PD WAS, UH, INITIALLY WRITTEN FOR, UH, WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, AS YOU SEE IN THE CONDITIONS, A REGIONAL OBSERVATION CAMPUS.
I THINK THE IDEA WAS TO BUILD SOMETHING KIND OF LIKE THE LONDON EYE, A LARGE, UH, I DON'T THINK YOU CAN QUITE CALL IT A FERRIS WHEEL, BUT LARGER THAN THAT.
UM, AND SO THERE WERE SOME, PARDON ME, THERE WERE SOME EXEMPTIONS AND CONDITIONAL CHANGES THAT WERE IN THERE SPECIFIC TO THAT.
UH, BECAUSE AGAIN, FOR INSTANCE, HOW DO YOU PUT PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES ON A, ON FERRIS WHEEL? UM, ONE COULD ARGUE ITSELF IS A PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USE, BUT IT ALREADY DID HAVE SOME CHANGES AND EXEMPTIONS IN THERE.
UH, SO I WOULD SAY THAT THE AMENDED CONDITIONS THAT WE'RE SEEING HERE TODAY, UH, IT'S A MIX OF CHANGING WHAT THOSE EXCEPTIONS WERE ALREADY AND SHORING THINGS UP AS WELL SO THAT THE BULK OF THESE EXCEPTIONS APPLY MAINLY TO THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER, BUT SUPPORTING USES WITHIN THE CAMPUS ARE SUBJECT TO OTHER REQUIREMENTS AS WELL.
AND THEN ALL THAT IS BUNDLED WITHIN THAT CAMPUS DEFINITION.
SO AGAIN, WITHOUT THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER, THERE IS NO REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
AND SO WITHOUT A REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS, IT DEFAULTS TO A WHOLE BUNCH OF THE NORMAL STANDARDS THAT ARE IN THERE.
AND ON THE DEFINITION, UM, I KNOW WE'VE GOT A, UM, SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S ADDED.
ARE YOU AWARE FROM THEIR PRESENTATIONS TO UDRP OR OTHER INFORMATION, UM, WHAT IS THE ESTIMATED SIZE OF THE CAMPUS? AND I, AGAIN, I KNOW THEY'RE VERY EARLY IN CONCEPTUAL DESIGN.
WE'VE GOT 250,000 SQUARE FEET IN THE ORDINANCE.
IS THAT WHAT THEY'RE PLANNING? IS IT LARGER? IS IT SMALLER? UH, THINK THAT WOULD NOT SMALLER.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE, YEAH, I THINK THAT WOULD BE BEST FOR THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER.
UM, I BELIEVE, FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN IN SOME INITIAL, SOME INITIAL DOCUMENTATION, I'LL BE FRANK, IN SOME INITIAL NEWS PRESS COVERAGE, I THINK IT WAS, YOU KNOW, AROUND 300, 3 50.
UM, I'LL SAY LOOKING AS WELL AT JUST SOME COMPARISONS OF LARGE FITNESS CENTERS, GENERALLY THEY TEND TO CLOCK IN AROUND 180, 170, SOME OF THE LARGEST ONES, UH, I'D SAY TWO 50 DOES PUT A PRETTY GOOD BAR ABOVE THAT.
UM, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PUTTING IN A FLOOR AREA REQUIREMENT, IT'S A BALANCING ACT.
YOU WANNA MAKE SURE YOU'RE PRETTY CLOSE TO WHAT'S BEING, UH, PROPOSED AND WHAT'S BEING TOSSED ABOUT.
AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK IT'S FAIR TO HAVE AT LEAST SOME WIGGLE ROOM AS DESIGNS CHANGE COULD BE MAYBE A 20% WIGGLE ROOM, JUST SO THAT IF SOMETHING GETS A LITTLE SMALLER, YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME IN FOR A WHOLE AMENDMENT.
UH, I DO THINK 250,000 CLEARS THE BAR PRETTY WELL IN TERMS OF, UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER LARGE SCALE FITNESS FACILITIES, THAT COULD THEORETICALLY INCLUDE A LOT OF WHAT'S DEFINED IN WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
UM, BUT CERTAINLY I THINK THE APPLICANT COULD PROVIDE MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THEIR TARGET FLOOR AREA IS.
THANK YOU FOR THIS, AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT AS WELL, BUT THE DEFINITION THAT'S GOT AS CRAFTED AND PROPOSED, IT IS STRUCTURED AROUND THREE MAIN COMPONENTS.
ONE IS THE WELLNESS, ONE IS PROGRAMMING, AND ONE IS THE OUTDOOR SPACE.
SO IN ORDER TO BE QUALIFIED AS A REGION AS WELLNESS CENTER, WHICH THEN LEADS YOU TO THE CAMPUS, YOU'D HAVE TO MEET ALL THREE OF THOSE CRITERIA, IS THAT CORRECT? YES.
SO IT PROVIDES WELLNESS OR EDUCATION PROGRAMMING, WHICH, YOU KNOW, THAT ITSELF IS NOT NECESSARILY DEFINED, BUT I THINK WE CAN TAKE THAT AS A, YOU KNOW, A LAY DEFINITION OR LAY INTERPRETATION OF WELLNESS, UH, PROGRAMMING, UH, COURSES RELATED TO ARTS, ENTERTAINMENT, NUTRITION, FITNESS, ET CETERA, BOTANY, AGRICULTURE, IT DOES INCLUDE ALL OF THOSE.
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UM, AND THEN ALSO THAT IT HAS WELLNESS ACTIVITIES SUCH AS THE INDOOR AND OUTDOOR POOLS AND BEACHES, SPA HEALTH TREATMENTS, SAUNAS AND STEAM ROOMS, AND BOTANICAL GARDENS AND TERRACES.UM, ADDITIONALLY IT DOES SPECIFICALLY DEFINE OUT THAT IT IS NOT A PRIVATE REC CENTER CLUB OR AREA OR PUBLIC PRIVATE OR BUSINESS SCHOOL.
UH, SO YOU COULDN'T SIMPLY HAVE A SCHOOL IN THERE THAT TEACHES THINGS AND MAYBE HAS A GYM ON SITE.
UH, YOU COULDN'T HAVE A SIMPLE PRIVATE RECREATION CENTER, CLUB OR AREA HAS TO REALLY, I THINK, PULL IN ALL THOSE COMPONENTS IN ORDER TO QUALIFY.
AND IS IT CORRECT THAT PART OF WHAT THE APPLICANT HAS ALSO, UM, SENT THROUGH IS TO ADD A CLARIFICATION THAT THE CENTER APPLIES EFFECTIVELY THROUGHOUT SUBDISTRICT ONE? SO THE ORIGINAL EXCLUSIONS WERE ALL, AND I'M JUST GONNA SAY ANOMALY ON THE NORTH SIDE OF RIVERFRONT, TOWARDS THE, UM, TRINITY.
AND NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT A LARGER AREA OF SUB-DISTRICT ONE, THEY'VE CLARIFIED THAT IT WILL BE DISPERSED THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT WAS ONE OF THE REVISIONS? THAT'S CORRECT.
THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER CAN BE THROUGHOUT THE CAMPUS, WHICH IS CONTIGUOUS SUB PARDON ME, CONTIGUOUS WITH SUBDISTRICT ONE.
AND I JUST WANNA FOLLOW UP ON TWO OTHER, UM, OR, WELL, THREE ACTUALLY, ITEMS, THEY'RE MEANDERS THAT ARE REFERENCED IN THE, UM, ORIGINAL PD OBVIOUSLY CARRIED FORWARD.
UM, THOSE ARE NOW INDICATED ON THE EXHIBIT A.
IS THAT CORRECT TO GIVE SOME, SOME GUIDANCE? I WILL SAY I DID NOT UNDERSTAND WHERE THEIR MEANDERS WERE INTENDED TO GO WHEN I FIRST STARTED LOOKING AT THIS.
COULD YOU JUST TALK THROUGH KIND OF WHAT THAT CONCEPT IS AND WHY THAT MAY BE IMPORTANT? UH, YES.
SO THE MEANDERS MY UNDERSTANDING, THE MEANDERS ARE, UH, KIND OF REMNANTS OF THE OLD TRINITY RIVER.
UH, THEY'RE, UH, I DON'T KNOW IF THEY'RE FULL ON PROTECTED WATERSHEDS OR I'M GETTING A LITTLE OUTSIDE OF MY WHEELHOUSE HERE IN TERMS OF, LET'S SAY ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTIONS AND WHATNOT.
UH, BUT MY UNDERSTANDING IS THERE ARE, YOU KNOW, SENSITIVE WETLAND AREAS THAT WHEN THE PD WAS WRITTEN, I THINK IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE PLANS FOR THE DALLAS WATER COMMONS, ET CETERA, UH, THEY WANTED TO RETAIN THEM AS NATURAL AREAS THAT WOULD BE, UH, THAT PEOPLE COULD GO AND STROLL BY HOPEFULLY JUST TAKING A BIT OF NATURE, SEE KIND OF HOW THE AREA IN SOME WAYS, HOW THE AREA LOOKED WELL BEFORE SETTLEMENT, UM, ENJOY THE WILDLIFE AND SUCH.
UM, BUT THEY'VE, THEY WERE INCLUDED IN THE PD AND WITH, I THINK THE BIGGEST THING THAT STOOD OUT IS, UM, THERE WERE A LOT OF SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR THE MEANDERS THAT WERE ABOVE AND BEYOND WHAT THE, UH, GENERAL SETBACKS OF THE BILL TWO ZONES WERE.
UH, JUST TO REALLY ENSURE PROTECTION OF THOSE, UH, WATER AREAS.
AND IS IT CORRECT THAT WITH THE, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT THE INTERNAL CIRCULATION, UM, THE TRAILS THAT ARE PROPOSED, UM, SOME OF THE BLOCK CONFIGURATIONS THAT THAT'S ALL MEANT TO ESSENTIALLY KNIT TOGETHER TO HELP PROVIDE, UM, IMPROVED PEDESTRIAN AREAS, TRAIL ACCESS, UM, YOU KNOW, FOR LOOKING TO, UM, FUTURE TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR IMPROVEMENTS AS WELL.
IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT.
UM, TWO OTHER ITEMS. WE HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF AN UNUSUAL OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA.
UM, YOU MENTIONED CROSSING RIVERFRONT, AND THEN WE HAVE THE SEPARATE PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE.
UM, IS THE PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE, I KNOW THE SUP IS BEFORE US, IT'S EFFECTIVELY DEFAULTING BACK TO BASE CODE, UM, REQUIREMENTS, WHICH WILL SET MAXIMUM WIDTHS, MAXIMUM HEIGHTS RELATED TO THAT, THE QUANTITY.
THAT'S A VERY LARGE AREA THAT IS SHOWN ON WHERE THAT COULD GO.
BUT IS IT CORRECT THAT FUNCTIONALLY YOU COULDN'T GET MORE THAN ONE SKYBRIDGE IN THAT AREA? THAT IS CORRECT.
AND MICHAEL'S, I THINK MICHAEL'S DONE A LOT OF SKY BRIDGES, SO IT LOOKS LIKE HIS VIEW ARE TURNING, BUT I'M PULLING UP THE SKYBRIDGE REGULATIONS RIGHT.
BROADLY, THEY'RE PERMITTED IN MOST DISTRICTS WITH AN SUP ONLY.
AND THIS IS ALSO APPLICABLE IN THE SUP, UH, EXCUSE ME.
UH, IN, IN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS, WE CAN'T OVERRIDE THAT THIS, THERE ARE A LOT OF DESIGN STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO SKY BRIDGES BROADLY, HOW THEY CAN BE TREATED, WHERE THEY CAN BE LOCATED, WHERE THE SUPPORTS CAN BE LOCATED.
UM, AND I THINK AS WELL AS THE, THE SPACING, THOSE CAN BE PROVIDED RELIEF THROUGH THE, THE APPROVAL OF THE, THE COUNCIL ULTIMATELY.
BUT, UM, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THEY'LL FOLLOW ALL OF THOSE, OR THEY PLAN TO, I'LL SAY THAT WITHIN THE PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE STANDARDS, ONE OF THEM IS, UH, REGARDLESS OF LENGTH, THEY CANNOT BE MORE THAN 20 FEET IN WIDTH.
I THINK THAT'S ALSO RELATED TO, UM, WELL, THANK YOU.
THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROVISIONS THAT SET WHAT THEIR WIDTHS ARE.
SO YEAH, IT DEPENDS ON THE LENGTH OF THE, UH, AND THERE'S A MINIMUM WIDTH AS WELL.
UH, BUT REGARDLESS OF THE LENGTH, THEY CANNOT BE MORE THAN 20 FEET.
THERE'S A DIFFERENCE IN MINIMUM WIDTH FOR THE LENGTH.
AND I KNOW WE DO NOT ADD, UM, ARCHITECTURAL STANDARDS, BUT THE GARAGE ITSELF EMBEDS MANY OF THE TYPICAL REQUIREMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE.
SO PRESUMABLY THEY WOULD HAVE A HOLISTIC APPEARANCE OF THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT'S PART OF SOME SEPARATE APPROVALS,
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UM, OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA.COULD YOU SPEAK TO WHAT THAT IS INTENDED TO BE? UH, YES.
SO WHAT THAT MEANS, AND THAT'S FOR THE CONNECTION OVER RIVERFRONT.
UH, MY UNDERSTANDING FROM WHAT THE APPLICANT EXPLAINED IS THAT THAT PORTION THAT CROSSES OVER WILL HAVE, I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT DETAILS ON WHICH SPECIFIC ACTIVITIES WOULD GO ON IN THERE, BUT THE IDEA IS THAT THERE'S SOMETHING IN THERE MORE THAN JUST A CONVEYANCE.
IT'S MORE THAN JUST CARPETING.
AND EVEN IF YOU PUT CHAIRS AND WHATNOT IN THERE.
UH, TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE, FOR INSTANCE, UH, WHEN WE LOOK AT SOME OF OUR HOSPITAL COMPLEXES IN, UH, I THINK BAYLOR'S A GOOD EXAMPLE.
I THINK THEY DO HAVE ONE OR TWO SKYBRIDGE PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE IS PROPER, WHERE ALL IT IS IS A CONVEYANCE BETWEEN TWO BUILDINGS.
BUT THEY DO HAVE ADDITIONAL PORTIONS OF THEIR OVERALL HOSPITAL FACILITY THAT IF YOU LOOK AT IT FROM THE OUTSIDE, YOU THINK THAT KIND OF LOOKS LIKE A SKY BRIDGE.
BUT WITHIN THAT SKY, WITHIN THAT STRUCTURE, THERE'S DOCTOR'S OFFICES, LABORATORIES, UH, IMAGING ROOMS, UH, SOMETHING OF THAT NATURE.
I CAN'T TELL YOU SPECIFICALLY WHAT'S IN THOSE, BUT IT'S CONSIDERED PART OF THE MAIN USE OVERALL.
AND WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, THE CITY DOES NOT READ THOSE AS PEDESTRIAN SKY BRIDGES.
THEY READ THEM AS PART OF THE MAIN USE.
AGAIN, THE CON I THINK PART OF THE CONSIDERATION THAT THESE ARE EVEN SUBJECT TO SCPS IS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THE CONCERN AROUND PEDESTRIAN LEVEL ACTIVATION, UM, STREET LEVEL ACTIVATION.
I THINK WHEN THIS WAS PROMULGATED, IT WAS PROBABLY MOSTLY FOCUSED ON DOWNTOWN MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE.
UM, AND SO IT, I THINK IT WAS WRITTEN WITH THAT IN MIND.
HENCE, YOU KNOW, IF YOU HAVE THE MAIN USE OCCURRING WITHIN THAT STRUCTURE, CROSSING OVER A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEN FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE, I'M SOMEWHAT PONTIFICATING HERE.
'CAUSE I WASN'T THERE WHEN THEY WROTE THIS REQUIREMENT, BUT MY GUESS IS THAT THEY FIGURED, WELL, IF IT'S PART OF THE MAIN USE, IT'S NOT TAKING AWAY FROM THE PEDESTRIAN LEVEL ACTIVATION BECAUSE IT'S, IT'S JUST PART OF THE MAIN USE.
BUT IT'S, I'M FUNCTIONALLY IT'S PART OF THE PROGRAM.
IT'S GONNA CONNECT THE TWO SECTIONS OF SUBDISTRICT ONE CORRECT.
AND IT WAS REQUESTED TO BE, UM, CONSIDERED BECAUSE IT'S A CORE FUNCTION IN CONNECTING THE CAMPUS AS A WHOLE.
AND THAT'S, UM, IS IT CORRECT THAT THE PROVISIONS ARE WRITTEN IN HERE? UM, TALK ABOUT IT'S WIDTH, ITS HEIGHT, HOW IT IS INTEGRATED WITH THE OVERALL ARCHITECTURAL EXPRESSION SO THAT IT CONTRIBUTES TO THE PUBLIC REALM? THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A COMMENT.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, I JUST WANNA CLARIFY THAT THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER IS REQUIRED IN THE FIRST PHASE OF THE DEVELOPMENT.
AND IT HAS TO BE 250,000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM.
AND IT HAS TO OCCUR NORTH AND SOUTH OF RIVERFRONT.
AND IF THAT DOESN'T GET BUILT, THEN THE CAMPUS DOESN'T HAPPEN.
THE CAMPUS HAS TO HAVE A WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
IF IT DOESN'T HAVE A WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER, YOU DON'T HAVE A CAMPUS.
COMMISSIONER HALL, MR. BAT, UH, IT WAS PART OF, UH, PART OF YOUR DEPARTMENT'S, UH, DELIBERATIONS ON THE RECOMMENDATION OF THIS CASE.
DID YOU LOOK INTO THE POSSIBILITY OF, UH, EXTREME WEATHER EVENTS OR, OR SERIOUS FLOODING IN THIS PART OF TOWN? I'LL SAY NO.
UH, IN, I DON'T SAY THAT AS IN, OH, WE DON'T THINK ABOUT THAT SORT OF THING.
UM, BUT THE FACT IS THAT IN TERMS OF, LET'S SAY EITHER WEATHER READINESS FOR, YOU KNOW, LET'S SAY THERE'S CONCERNS ABOUT CLASS STRUCTURE, RIGHT? THAT WE'VE SEEN ON THE RENDERINGS, UH, AS WELL AS FLOODPLAIN, UH, REQUIREMENTS AND WHATNOT, THAT JUST GENERALLY OCCURS DOWNSTREAM OF THE ZONING PROCESS THAT OCCURS MORE AT PERMITTING, WHERE THE, UH, ACTUAL FLOODPLAIN ENGINEERS, ET CETERA, LOOK AT THE, UM, PROPOSED PROJECT, UH, BUILDING CODE LOOKS AT THE PROPOSED PROJECT.
UH, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT ARE GONNA BE BETTER SUITED TO DETERMINE IF, UH, IF A PROJECT IS ACTUALLY VIABLE OR IF IT NEEDS CHANGES TO ACCOMMODATE ANY STATUTORY OR ENGINEERING REQUIREMENTS.
UH, IT JUST, IT WOULDN'T BE, I THINK IT WOULD BE OUTSIDE OF OUR SCOPE TO MAKE THAT DETERMINATION AT THIS STAGE.
UH, AND I THINK THAT GETS INTO, I'LL SAY PART OF WHY WE WANTED TO SHORE UP THESE REQUIREMENTS AND THESE CONDITIONS IN HERE, BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE COME UP WITH A PD OR WITH A REZONING WHERE FOR WHATEVER REASON SOMETHING JUST FALLS THROUGH, RIGHT? I MEAN, IT COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS A HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, IT COULD BE A PROJECT LIKE THIS.
AND OUR FIRST THOUGHT, WHENEVER WE LOOK AT A ZONING CASE, WHETHER IT'S A GENERAL ZONING CHANGE OR A PD, IS, WELL, IF IT'S PART OF, IF IT'S COMING AS PART OF A PROPOSED PROJECT, WHAT'S LEFT IN THE AFTERMATH IF THAT PROPOSAL FALLS THROUGH, UH, WE SEE THIS WITH GENERAL ZONING CHANGES, FOR INSTANCE, WHERE THE APPLICANT COULD BE PROPOSING THE ZONING CHANGE
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FOR ONE PARTICULAR USE THAT THEY HAVE IN MIND, BUT THE ZONING DISTRICT ITSELF COULD ALLOW WHOLE HOST OF USES.SO WE KINDA LOOK AT THAT HOLISTICALLY AND SAY, WELL, IF THIS DOESN'T OCCUR, THEN WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH? AND DO WE FIND THAT COMPATIBLE? UH, SO IN THIS CASE, YOU KNOW, WE, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL VALID CONCERNS.
THEY'LL BE ADDRESSED DOWNSTREAM AT PERMITTING.
AND IF FOR WHATEVER REASON, IF, IF BASED ON ALL THAT THE PROJECT ISN'T VIABLE, UH, WE'D STILL BE LEFT WITH A STRONG PD THAT DOESN'T PROVIDE ALL THESE EXEMPTIONS TO WHATEVER ELSE WOULD COME IN.
DOES THAT ANSWER THE QUESTION OR THE CONCERN? YES.
UH, THERE'S, UH, THERE, THERE IS COMMERCIAL, UH, OPERATIONS GOING ON IMMEDIATELY TO THE SOUTH OF THIS, UH, THIS LOT, UH, BETWEEN IT AND THE RIVER ITSELF.
HAS THERE, ARE YOU AWARE, HAS THERE BEEN ANY FLOODING OF THOSE BUSINESSES DOWN THERE? UH, I'M NOT AWARE OF ANY FLOODING.
I, I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT HAS ANYTHING AT ALL TO DO WITH OUR BOAT, BUT I, AND I WOULD ASSUME THAT THERE'S BEEN CONSIDERATION GIVEN TO THAT, UH, YOU KNOW, IN THE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
UH, AND, AND ONE FINAL QUESTION.
UH, IT'S NOT THIS BODY'S RECOMMENDATION TO WORRY ABOUT CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS FOR A, A GIANT GLASS DOME
IS THAT SOMETHING FOR PERMITTING AS WELL, OR? YEP, THAT WOULD BE, THAT WOULD BE REVIEWED AT PERMITTING? UM, THAT WOULD BE UNDER, I MEAN, IT WOULD BE A, IT WOULD BE UNDER SOME SORT OF, UH, UM, INTERNATIONAL, UH, BUILDING CODE.
UH, I COULDN'T TELL YOU WHICH SECTIONS AND WHATNOT.
UM, IT, IT'LL PROBABLY BE A PRETTY NOVEL PERMIT FOR THEM.
UH, I DON'T THINK WE'VE HAD TOO MANY STRUCTURES KIND OF LIKE THIS BEFORE.
UH, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, I'M SURE THAT THROUGH THEIR, THROUGH THEIR REVIEW PROCESS AND I THINK THE EXTENSIVE KNOWLEDGE THEY HAVE, BOTH OF THE CODE WE HAVE, AND I'M SURE CONTACTS IN OTHER PLACES IN OUR JURISDICTIONS THAT HAVE WORKED WITH SOMETHING LIKE THIS, UH, THEY'LL BE ABLE TO GIVE IT A THOROUGH REVIEW AND ENSURE THAT IT MEETS, UH, STANDARDS FOR ENGINEERING AND SAFETY.
SO OUR CHARGE IS JUST TO, JUST TO CONSIDER THE, UH, LAND USE IMPLICATIONS AND NOT CONSTRUCTION OR WEATHER RELATED.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS ITEM? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU WANT A BRIEFING THERE? ANY QUESTIONS? YOU'RE HOLDING IT? NO.
DO WE HAVE A DATE? EIGHT TWO WEEKS OF SEPTEMBER 3RD.
NEED A BRIEFING ON THAT ONE? ANYONE ELSE? QUESTIONS? AND OUR LAST ZONING CASE ON OUR AGENDA CASE NUMBER 19.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, WOULD YOU LIKE A BRIEFING? NO.
DOES ANYONE ELSE NEED A BRIEFING OR HAVE QUESTIONS? OKAY.
THAT WILL CONCLUDE THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
IT IS 11:44 AM WE WILL BE BACK AT 1230 FOR OUR PUBLIC HEARING.
[CALL TO ORDER]
AFTERNOON EVERYONE.IT IS THURSDAY, AUGUST 20TH, 2026 AT, UH, 12:33 PM AND THIS IS THE PUBLIC HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
CAN WE START WITH A ROLL CALL, PLEASE? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
DISTRICT ONE COMMISSIONER SIM.
DISTRICT SEVEN, COMMISSIONER WHEELER.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE.
DISTRICT 14, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN? I'M HERE.
MAKE SURE THEIR MICROPHONE IS OFF.
ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU EVERYONE SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY.
JUST A LITTLE BIT OF HOUSEKEEPING.
UM, IF YOU ARE HERE TO SPEAK TO US AND PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT, PLEASE FILL OUT ONE OF THOSE YELLOW CARDS DOWN TO MY LEFT, YOUR RIGHT.
SO WE HAVE A RECORD OF, UM, WHO'S, UM, BEEN HERE TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY AND ALSO START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD.
UH, OUR RULES ALLOW FOR EACH CASE THREE MINUTES PER SPEAKER, WHICH WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO FLEX UP OR DOWN DEPENDING ON THE CASE.
AND IF THERE IS OPPOSITION ON THE CASE, OUR RULES ALLOW FOR THE APPLICANT TO HAVE A TWO MINUTE REBUTTAL PERIOD.
[APPROVAL OF MINUTES]
THAT, WE WILL GET INTO OUR AGENDA.AND COMMISSIONER HALL, DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE PREVIOUS MINUTES? I DO.
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I MOVE TO APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE AUGUST 6TH, 2026 CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING AS POSTED ON AUGUST 6TH, 2026.COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER ONE, I'M PRESENT ITEM.
[1. 26-2654A An application for an amendment for Specific Use Permit No. 2602 for retirement housing on property zoned TH-2(A) Townhouse District 2, on the east line of S. Westmoreland Road, south of Watership Lane. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Aron Eaquinto Representative: Robert Baldwin Planner: Hema Sharma Council District: 3 MZ-26-000015]
A**L ITEM ONE MZ DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 5.AN APPLICATION FOR MINOR AMENDMENT FOR SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 2 6 0 2 FOR RETIREMENT HOUSING AND PROPERTY ZONE TS TWO.
A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT TWO ON THE EAST LINE OF SOUTHWEST BORDER LAND ROAD, SOUTH OF WATERSHIP LANE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL.
UH, ROB BALDWIN 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B HERE REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER.
THIS IS A MINOR AMENDMENT TO A SUP SITE PLAN FOR RETIRE, UH, RETIREMENT COMMUNITY.
UM, THE ORIGINAL SUP SITE PLAN, WE MISLABELED THE DOG PARK.
IT'S STILL IN THE SAME LOCATION, BUT WE DIDN'T LABEL IT PROPERLY.
WE'RE ADDING A SMALL, UH, ACCESSORY BUILDING AND WE'RE TAKING THE AMENITY CENTER WITH THE POOL AND SPLITING THE BUILDINGS FROM ONE BUILDING TO TWO BUILDINGS.
UM, I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS REQUEST.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER TWO? ITEM NUMBER ONE? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER OR VICE CHAIR? HERBERT, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES.
IN CASE 2 6 2 6 5 4 A MZ 2 6 0 0 0 1 5 0 0 0 0 1 5.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE, UH, MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEM AS A PRESENT IN THE DOCKET.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION, VICE CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
[Zoning Cases - Consent]
A CONSENT AGENDA, WHICH FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, UM, ALL THE CASES ARE TAKEN UP AND WOULD BE APPROVED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION UNLESS, UM, SOMEONE, ONCE ONE OF THEM CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY OUR DOCKET WAS ORIGINALLY KNOWN AS TO HAVE ITEMS TWO THROUGH EIGHT CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY OR CONSIDERED ON CONSENT.UM, BUT ITEMS 5, 6, 7, AND EIGHT HAVE BEEN ALREADY BEEN PULLED OFF FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION.
UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WANTS ITEMS TWO, THREE, OR FOUR CONSIDERED INDIVIDUALLY OR ARE WE GOOD TO LEAVE THEM ON CONSENT AND HAVE THEM DISPOSED OF IN A SINGLE MOTION? SO IF YOU'D LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS TWO, THREE, OR FOUR, WE WOULD NEED TO PULL THEM OFF THE CONSENT.
MR. PEPE, CAN YOU READ THE CONSENT AGENDA OR THE CONSENT DOCKET INTO THE RECORD? ITEM TWO IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 44.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO AN EXPANSION OF SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 2 5 4 9 FOR A PEDESTRIAN SC ON PROPERTIES ON PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 1, 1 1 2 AND MU THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT ON THE RIGHT OF WAY ON HARRY HINES BOULEVARD BETWEEN PLANTATION ROAD AND RECORD CROSSING ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS SIX 300 HARRY HINES BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN.
UH, ITEM THREE IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 0 6.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A UTILITY OR GOVERNMENT INSTALLATION OTHER THAN LISTED ON PROPERTY ZONE AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH AND WEST LINES OF BLANCO DRIVE, EAST OF BONNIE V ROAD.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS IS BRIEFED.
UM, ITEM FOUR IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 3 8.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED R 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF LUM ROAD AT NORTH MASTERS DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS TWO, THREE, OR FOUR OR CONSENT AGENDA? ALL RIGHT.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
IN THE MATTER OF THE CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR, AS READ INTO THE RECORD, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE CASES PER STAFF RECOMMENDATION AND STATED CONDITIONS.
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GREAT.THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR YOUR SECOND.
THE MOTION CARRIES ON TO ITEM NUMBER
[5. 26-2658A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 439, on the east line of S. Polk Street, between W. Brooklyn Avenue and W. Pembroke Avenue, [AKA 1002 W. Brooklyn Avenue]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to amended conditions and an amended development plan. Applicant: Tereso Ortiz / Casa Guanajuato Representative: Adair Aranda Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 1 Z-26-000123]
FIVE.THIS IS Z UH, ITEM FIVE IS Z 2 6 0 0 1, 2 3.
IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN OF DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 39 ON THE EAST LINE OF SOUTH POLK STREET BETWEEN WEST BROOKLYN AVENUE AND WEST PO PEMBROKE AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS 1 0 0 2 WEST BROOKLYN AVE.
UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS AS BRIEFED AND DISTRIBUTED AND AN DEVELOP AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE? ARANDA ADDRESS IS 1 0 3 0 CEDAR HILL AVENUE.
I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE CLIENT WHO IS ALSO HERE.
UH, I'M HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS.
ARE THERE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE? I AM SORRY.
UM, MR. RESO DOES NEED AN INTERPRETER FOR THIS.
OH, HE'S GONNA MAKE HIS COMMENTS IN SPANISH.
AND UNDER OUR RULES, IF, IF SOMEONE IS USING AN INTERPRETER, I, I BELIEVE THEIR TIME GOES UP TO SIX MINUTES FROM THE USUAL THREE DIRECTOR, PRESIDENT MEXICO.
HE'S THE DIRECTOR AND FOUNDER OF CA.
UH, HE JUST WANTED TO BRING UP THREE POINTS.
ONE IS, UH, THE REASON THEY'RE REQUESTING THE REZONING OR THE SEP AMENDMENT, SECOND, WHAT THEY'VE DONE FOR THE THIRD TWO YEARS THAT THIS ORGANIZATION HAS BEEN HERE.
AND FINALLY, WHAT THEY HOPE TO CONTINUE DOING, UH, IN THE FUTURE WITH THE CITY'S SUPPORT.
UH, SEPTEMBER 18TH, 19, 19 94, UH, SMALL GROUP, UM, STARTED CA THEY HAVE NINE SORT OF OBJECTIVES OR MISSIONS.
UH, HE'S NOT GONNA ENUMERATE, BUT THIS IS WHAT THEY'VE BEEN, UH, WHAT THEY'VE BEEN WORKING ON AND PROMOTING SINCE THEIR FOUNDING.
AND HE WILL GO INTO DETAIL ON A COUPLE OPEN TO EVERYONE REGARDLESS OF RACE, CREED, OR COLOR.
UH, HE BELIEVES, UH, FAMILY IS A WAY TO RESOLVE ANY PROBLEMS THAT OCCUR IN IN THE COMMUNITY
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TO HAVE A PLACE WHERE OUR COMMUNITY CAN SORT OF CULTIVATE AND THRIVE.ON AUGUST 30TH, IT'LL BE AUGUST 30 LOS.
IT'LL BE OPENING UP ON, UH, BROOKLYN AT 10 0 2 WEST BROOKLYN.
SO, OKAY, SO 30TH OF AUGUST IS WHEN THE CENTER WILL OPEN OR HOPES TO OPEN.
AND WITH THAT, THEY WANT TO HAVE PUT ON SOME ACTIVITIES TO HELP THE COMMUNITY IN THREE DIFFERENT ASPECTS.
THEY WANNA FOCUS ON EDUCATION, SPORT, AND CULTURE.
AND THROUGH THAT THEY'VE FOUND A NEED TO EXPAND THOSE SERVICES TO, TO A BROADER, BROADER SET OF SERVICES.
UH, HE KNOWS THAT THE CITY ITSELF IS GROWING AND REGARDLESS OF WHO'S COMING HERE, HE'S GOT 55 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN, IN WORKING WITH THE COMMUNITY.
AND THEY'VE, YOU'VE SEEN OVER THE YEARS THAT THERE'S A NEED FOR CHANGE, NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, IN THE STRUCTURE AND ALL THAT, BUT IN OTHER ASPECTS OF THE SITE AS WELL, UH, PROP.
AND THIS THIRD POINT IS THAT HE JUST HOPES THAT HE CAN GET THE CITY'S SUPPORT ON THIS FOR THEIR EXPANSION THAT THEY BELIEVE IS, IS CRITICAL TO THEIR MISSION.
AND HE POINTS OUT THE CITY HAS UTILIZED THEIR SPACE THEMSELVES FOR PUTTING TOGETHER COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND OTHER, UH, OTHER FUNCTIONS, UH, AND THAT IT'S OPEN TO OTHERS AS WELL TO USE IT.
HE SAYS, UH, THANK YOU FOR, YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
HE HOPES TO THAT Y'ALL WILL TAKE A LOOK AND SEE THE PLACE AND, AND MEET THE TEAM AND UNDERSTAND THE MISSION.
THEY'RE DOING THE BROOKLYN AVENUE.
ARE THERE OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF ITEM FIVE? COME ON DOWN.
MY ADDRESS IS NINE 18 HARSDALE DALLAS, TEXAS BY 2 1 1.
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ON THE BOARD OF CASA GUANAJUATO AS THEIR TREASURER.I'LL, UH, ABBREVIATE IS CASA GTO FOR US THAT AREN'T, UH, UH, BILINGUAL.
UM, I AM HOPING THAT YOU WILL SUPPORT THE, THE CHANGES, UM, THAT WE ARE REQUESTING BECAUSE, UM, THERE HAS BEEN OVER 32 YEARS A LOT OF GROWTH AND A LOT OF SERVICE THAT WE'VE BEEN PROVIDING TO THE COMMUNITY.
EVERYTHING FROM PHYSICAL, UH, FITNESS ACTIVITIES.
UM, WE'VE HAD EVERYTHING FROM, WE STILL HAVE BOXING ALL THESE YEARS AND WE'VE HAD ZUMBA, WE HAD ALL KINDS OF THINGS TO TRY TO, UH, BRIDGE THE COMMUNITY, UM, AND, YOU KNOW, KIND OF LIKE BLEND AND, UH, YOU KNOW, STILL PROVIDE CULTURAL EVENTS, ART, ALL KINDS OF THINGS.
AND WITH THE GROWTH OF THE CITY AND THE GROWTH OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALL THE DIVERSITY, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO, UM, BE MORE INVITING AND, UH, TO THE, TO THE NEW COMMUNITY ALSO THAT'S COMING IN WITH THE GROWTH.
SO, UM, WITH THAT SAID, UH, HOPE THAT YOU WILL GIVE US GRANTED THAT, UH, CHANGE THAT WE WANT.
AND WE ALSO INVITE YOU TO COME OUT AND TAKE A LOOK AT CA AND EVERYTHING.
IT OFFERS, UH, EVERYTHING FROM GED CLASSES, UH, ESL, UM, ALL KINDS OF STUFF.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST A, A REALLY BEAUTIFUL PLACE THAT IS WELCOMING.
AND ONE THING THAT, UH, THE DIRECTOR ALWAYS SAYS IS, UH, CAA IS FOR EVERYBODY.
SO BASICALLY, AND SO Y'ALL ARE WELCOME TO COME AND, UH, VISIT AND SEE WHAT WE HAVE GOING ON.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS AND SUPPORT? COME ON DOWN.
HELLO, MY NAME IS RUBEN HERRERA AND I'M, I ACTUALLY VOLUNTEER AT CASA GUANAJUATO.
I'VE BEEN THERE FOR SIX YEARS.
I'M THE DIRECTOR OF EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS THERE.
SO WHAT WE DO IN CASA GUANAJUATO FOR THE EDUCATIONAL AREA, WE TEACH, UH, UH, GED EXAM, PREPARATION CLASSES, CITIZENSHIP CLASSES, ESL CLASSES AND COMPUTER CLASSES.
ALSO, MICROSOFT EXCEL FOR SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO WE TEACH OUR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY OUR LATINO COMMUNITY TO, YOU KNOW, WITH THEIR EDUCATION AND ALSO BE LAW ABIDING CITIZENS.
UM, CASA HU IS ALWAYS BEEN KNOWN FOR ALSO THEIR CULTURAL PROGRAMS AND ALSO ALL THAT ROOMS THAT WE HAVE THERE AT CASA GUANAJUATO RESO, HE JUST LOANED THEM FOR FREE.
LIKE HE TAKES NO MONEY, HE TAKES NO PROFIT.
THE ROOMS, EVERYTHING THAT HE GOES WITH.
ELECTRICITY, WATER, AC TABLES, CHAIRS.
HE JUST LOANED THEM JUST TO PRETTY MUCH ANYBODY WHO ASKS FOR A ROOM, ESPECIALLY FOR A CITY EVENT OR A COMMUNITY EVENT.
AND I'M JUST WANTED TO SAY THIS AND I'M JUST WANTED TO VOUCH FOR HIM AND FOR CASA GUANAJUATO.
AND CAN YOU PROVIDE YOUR ADDRESS? YES.
MY ADDRESS IS 24 38 APRIL LANE AND I LIVE IN GRAND PRAIRIE, TEXAS.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER FIVE? SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.
COMMISSIONER SIMS, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 2 3, I MOVE TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS AS DISTRIBUTED AND BRIEFED AND AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER SIMS, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER SERATO, ANY DISCUSSION? JUST A BRIEF DISCUSSION, MR. CHAIR.
UH, JUST A WITH THANKS MR. BATE FOR AN AMAZING JOB OF TRANSLATING THAT ONE SMALL THING GOT LOST IN TRANSLATION THAT THEY'RE NOT OPENING ON AUGUST 30TH OF THIS YEAR, BUT AUGUST 30TH THIS YEAR WILL BE THE 31ST ANNIVERSARY OF WHAT IS TRULY A FACILITY THAT IS A HEARTBEAT OF THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO I THINK MR. CHAIR, WHAT WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO HERE TODAY IS NOT ONLY HELP OUT A TREMENDOUS FACILITY, BUT FIX A VERY STRANGE PD.
AND I BELIEVE THAT'S A GREAT TWO FOR, AND I URGE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO SUPPORT IT.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
THE MOTION CARRIES ONTO ITEM NUMBER SIX.
[6. 26-2659A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store greater than 3,500 square feet on a property zoned CR Commercial Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the north line of Bruton Road, west of Prairie Creek Road, [AKA 9009 Bruton Road]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Ortega LMMM Interests Limited Partnership / Roade Properties, Ltd. Representative: Jeniffer Hiromoto Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 5 Z-26-000147]
ITEM, UH, NUMBER SIX IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, UH, GREATER THAN A 3,500 SQUARE FEET ON A PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE CONTROL OVERLAY, UH, LOCATED ON THE NORTH LINE OF BURTON ROAD, WEST OF, UH, PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD, UM, ALSO KNOWN AS 9 0 0 9 BURTON ROAD AS STAFF RECOMMENDATION[01:35:01]
IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.JENNIFER HIROTO, 1 0 2 3 3 EAST NORTHWEST HIGHWAY.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON ITEM NUMBER FIVE OR ITEM SIX? OKAY, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER.
OKAY, COMMISSIONER SERATO, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES, I DO.
MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF OF KC 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 7, I MOVE TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE FOR A PERIOD OF FIVE YEARS WITH NO ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS, SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
COMMISSIONER SERATO, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER, SIMS. ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
ANY OPPOSED? NAY? THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER
[7. 26-2660A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less, on property zoned CR Commercial Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the southeast corner of Great Trinity Forest Way and Forsythe Drive, [AKA 7602 Great Trinity Forest Way]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Prabin Shakya / S Great Trinity Forest Way LLC. Representative: Baldwin Associates / Rob Baldwin Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 8 Z-26-000148]
SEVEN.ITEM NUMBER SEVEN IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW, UM, SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALES OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH, UM, GENERAL MERCHANDISE FOOD STORE 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON A PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A DE DELE CONTROL OVERLAY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY AND, UH, FROSTY DRIVE, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS 76 0 2.
GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO ZIPLINE AND CONDITIONS.
MR. BALDWIN, GOOD AFTERNOON, ROB BALDIN 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B.
I'VE ASKED THAT THIS BE HELD, UH, TO GIVE ME TIME TO WORK WITH, UH, THE COMMISSIONER ON, UH, A COUPLE ITEMS REGARDING PROXIMITY TO A CHURCH AND, UH, THE BEST WAY TO IDENTIFY THE SITE, UH, FOR YOU.
YOU HEARD ABOUT THE, THE QUESTION ABOUT THE SIGN AND THINKING MAYBE THERE'S ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE SURE THE NEIGHBORS KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THIS IS.
SO, UM, IF I WOULD, I'M FINE WITH THE HOLDING THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT.
I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER SEVEN? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 48.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2026.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM NUMBER
[8. 26-2661A An application for D(A) Duplex District on property zoned R-10(A) Single Family District, on the southwest corner of Seaton Drive and Humphrey Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Juan Rankin [KJBJ Enterprises LLC], Antonio Everette {AE Equity Group LLC] Representative: Matthew Meals [Verdunity] Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 4 Z-26-000146]
EIGHT IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z.THE STAFF WILL READ IT IN, THEN WE'LL GO TO, OH, I'M SORRY SPEAKERS.
THEN WE'LL GO TO YOU FOR A MOTION.
UH, ITEM UH, NUMBER EIGHT IS AN APPLICATION FOR, UH, D EIGHT DUPLEX DISTRICT, UH, ON A PROPERTY ZONE R 10 SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF, UH, SITTON, UH, DRIVE AND, UH, HAM EY, UH, DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL.
UM, MR. AGUILERA ADMIR, ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM NUMBER EIGHT? SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY.
SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER UH, GILBERT SMITH, YOUR MOTION IN THE MATTER OF CASE Z 26 0 0 1 4 8.
I MOVE TO HOLD THE CASE UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 3RD.
COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
[9. 26-2662A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store greater than 3,500 square feet on property zoned CS Commercial Service District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the west corner of C. F. Hawn Fwy. and S. Woody Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: 14020 CF Hawn FWY, LLC / Shzeb Daredia U/A From: April 23, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 8 Z-25-000228]
AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOL BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE GREATER THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY ZONE CS COMMERCIAL SERVICE DISTRICT WITH THE D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY ON THE WEST CORNER OF CF POND FREEWAY AND SOUTH WOODY ROAD STAFF RECOMME CONDITIONS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN CONDITIONS.IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ITEM NUMBER NINE? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? NO SPEAKERS.
SO WE'LL GO TO YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR ANOTHER MOTION.
UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 2 2 8.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 19TH, 2026.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
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CARPENTER FOR YOUR SECOND.ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
[10. 26-2663A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a bar, lounge, or tavern on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development District No. 269, Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the south line of Elm Street, west of N. Crowdus Street, [AKA 2650 Elm Street]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Sweet Bar Dallas / Marvin Regalado U/A From: August 6, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 2 Z-26-000135]
NUMBER 10, AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK A WITHIN PLAN ELEMENT.DISTRICT NUMBER 2 6 9 DEEP ELLUM SLASH NORTHEAST SIDE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF ELM STREET, WEST OF NORTH KRAUS STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS 26 50 ELM STREET STAFF.
RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL ASSERTED TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
ARE THERE ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM NUMBER 10? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? SEE THERE'S ONE PERSON SIGNED UP TO SPEAK IN OPPOSITION ONLINE.
CHRIS SCHRAG OR THEY ONLINE? NO.
OKAY, THEN WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR HER MOTION.
AND I HAVE BRIEF COMMENTS IF I HAVE A SECOND IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 5.
I MOVE TO LEAVE THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL SEPTEMBER 3RD.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
UH, VICE CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
UM, ANY DISCUSSION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
UM, THIS IS BEING HELD AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT.
UM, I KNOW IT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE COMMISSION, UM, THAT WE DID RECEIVE SOME COMMUNITY FEEDBACK AND THERE HAVE BEEN, UH, COMMUNICATIONS TO ME, UM, IN OPPOSITION TO THIS REQUEST.
SO WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS TIME TO HAVE SOME ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY MEETINGS AND OUTREACH AND LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS BACK BEFORE US ON THE THIRD.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? NO OTHER DISCUSSION.
SO WE HAVE A MOTION TO HOLD TO NINE THREE.
[11. 26-2664A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a bar, lounge, or tavern and an inside commercial amusement use limited to a dance hall, on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development No. 269, Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the south line of Elm Street, east of N. Good Latimer Expwy., west of N. Crowdus Street, [AKA 2638 Elm Street]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Trakass Bar & Lounge, LLC / Tomas Alonzo Representative: Audra Buckley U/A From: August 6, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 2 Z-26-000136]
AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW PARTICULAR USE PERMIT FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT.LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USED LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ZONE AND TRACK A WITH EMPLOYMENT ELEMENT.
DISTRICT NUMBER 2 6 9 DEEP ELLUM SLASH NORTHEAST SIDE DISTRICT ON THE, ON THE SOUTH LINE OF ELM STREET, EAST OF NORTH GOOD LATIMER EXPRESSWAY, WEST OF NORTH RAUS STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS 26 38 ELM STREET.
RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN CONDITIONS.
1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE ONE 50, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 5 REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IN THIS CASE.
IT WAS HELD THE LAST TIME BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO MEET WITH THE DEEP ELM FOUNDATION'S SUP COMMITTEE THAT HAS TRANSPIRED AND THEY HAVE RECEIVED A LETTER TO MOVE FORWARD FOR A ONE YEAR SUV.
IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? UH, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON YOUR MOTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 36, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD PER APPLICANT'S REQUEST, SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE ONE QUESTION.
HOW DO YOU PRONOUNCE THE NAME OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT? OKAY, NEVERMIND.
I GUESS I'LL FIND THAT OUT OFFLINE.
[12. 26-2665A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service on property zoned RR Regional Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, between Samuell Boulevard and E I-30 Fwy., east of N. Jim Miller Road, [AKA 6465 Samuell Boulevard]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Cesar Villasenor / Trakas Sports Cantina LLC. Representative: Warren Cohen U/A From: July 23, 2026. Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 7 Z-26-000070]
AGUILERA, ITEM NUMBER 12.ITEM 12 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE CELLS OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVING OR DRIVE THROUGH, UH, SERVICE ON A PROPERTY ZONE.
RR REGIONAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A D ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY LOCATED BETWEEN SAMUEL BOULEVARD AND I 30, UH, UH, EXPRESSWAY EAST OF NORTH JIM MILLER ROAD, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS 64 65 SAMUEL BOULEVARD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 12? GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS.
MY NAME IS, UH,
UH, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'LL BE HERE PRESENT AND THANK YOU.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM 12? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? NO.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO HAVE A MOTION AND, BUT I, I, CAN I ASK
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A QUESTION BEFORE THEN? REQUIRES THIS MOTION TO STAFF RIGHT QUICK? YOU CAN, UH, GO AHEAD AND MAKE YOUR MOTION THEN WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS OF STAFF.IT'S A PART OF, IT'S A PART OF MY MOTION.
THEY DON'T HAVE A TIME PERIOD ON HERE.
WELL, YOU, I THINK THE SUP WAS SET WITHOUT A TIME PERIOD, BUT YOU'RE FREE TO RECOMMEND RENDER ON IF, OKAY.
UM, IN THE MATTER OF THE DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 70, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD, UM, SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
OKAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER WHEELER, YOUR SECOND COMMISSIONER KINGSTON.
ANY DISCUSSION SAYING NONE? OH, YES.
SO WE, WE WE'RE SUPER THANKFUL FOR, UM, THIS BUILDING HAS SAT VACANT SINCE FIRST CAFETERIA WENT OUT OF BUSINESS AND IT'S, UH, HELPING KEEP ACTIVATED THAT SAMUEL BOULEVARD, UM, THE I 30, UH, CORRIDOR DOOR.
WE'RE THANKFUL TO HAVING SOME BUSINESSES THAT ARE REST OF OUR BUSINESS AS WELL, CONTINUING TO MOVE INTO THIS AREA.
THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER REALER.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS ITEM? UH, WE'VE GOT A MOTION TO APPROVE SUBJECT TO PSYCH CLINIC CONDITIONS, BUT FOR A FIVE YEAR PERIOD.
[13. 26-2666A An application for CR Community Retail District on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the southwest corner of Bonnie View Road and Highland Hills Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: 5900 Bonnie View Rd LLC / Shazeb Daredia Representative: S.I. Abed of DDC, Inc. / Shafiqul Abed U/A From: May 21, 2026. Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 8 Z-26-000071]
13.ITEM NUMBER 13 IS AN APPLICATION FOR CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE.
R SEVEN, UH, FIVE SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, UH, LOCATED ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF BUNNY VIEW ROAD AND, UH, HIGHLAND HILLS DRIVE.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 13? OKAY, NO SPEAKERS WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR A MOTION.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 7 1.
I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER ON ADVISEMENT UNTIL DECEMBER 3RD, 2026.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? NO DISCUSSION.
[14. 26-2667A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for commercial motor vehicle parking on property zoned LI, Light Industrial District, on the west line of Bonnie View Road, south of Telephone Road, [AKA 9300 Bonnie View Road]. Staff Recommendation: Approval for a ten-year period with eligibility for automatic renewals for an additional ten-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Lets Build it LLC / Huma Al Baroodi U/A From: June 25, 2026. Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 8 Z-26-000084]
ITEM 14 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING ON A PROPERTY ZONE LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT LOCATED ON THE WEST LINE OF, UH, BUNNY VIEW ROAD SIDE OF, UH, TELEPHONE ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS, UH, UM, 9 3 0 0 BUNNY VIEW ROAD.RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD WITH ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTOMATIC RENEWALS FOR AN ADDITIONAL 10 YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 14? GOOD AFTERNOON.
I'M HERE FOR, UH, Z 26, UH, 0 0 0 8 4.
UH, WE'RE HOPING TO GET YOUR SUPPORT TO, UH, HAVE A, A COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE, BASICALLY AN 18 WHEELER PARKING LOT ON THIS, UH, LAND.
AND, UH, WE'RE WILLING TO COMPLY WITH ALL THE CITY REQUIREMENTS.
AND ALSO, JUST TO ADD UP TO IT, WE'RE GONNA HAVE AN EIGHT FOOT CHAIN LINK FENCE AROUND IT AND TREES ALL AROUND JUST TO BLOCK THE, YOU KNOW, THE VIEW OF THE 18 WHEELER FROM THE STREET.
AND, UH, BASICALLY THIS LAND HAS BEEN OUT THERE FOR A LONG TIME WITH NO USE.
WE'RE HOPING TO PUT IT INTO USE AND HAVE, BRING IN SOME REVENUE, UH, TO THE OWNER AND ALSO TO THE CITY.
I HOPE WE CAN GET YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO'D LIKE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT ON ITEM 14? ANY SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? OKAY, SEEING NONE, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN FRANKLIN, YOUR MOTION? UH, THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 84, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE SUP SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES.
THE SUP EXPIRES IN FIVE YEARS WITHOUT AUTO RENEWAL AT A CONDITION REQUIRING A MINIMUM EIGHT FOOT TALL PERIMETER SCREENING FENCE AND THE LOCATION SHOWN ON THE ATTACHED SITE PLAN.
THE SUP IS SUBJECT TO A REVISED SITE PLAN SHOWING THE LOCATIONS OF THE REQUIRED PERIMETER SCREENING FENCE.
COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOUR SECOND VICE CHAIR.
ANY DISCUSSION? OKAY, NO DISCUSSION.
THE MOTION CARRIES ONTO ITEM NUMBER
[15. 26-2668A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 17, on the southeast corner of Alpha Road and Preston Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: John Falb / Gilliland Properties II, LLC Representative: Rob Baldwin / Baldwin Associates, LLC U/A From: July 23, 2026. Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 11 Z-26-000079]
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CASE Z 26 0 0 0 7 9.AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 17 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ALPHA ROAD AND PRESTON ROAD.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
HASHMI, MR. BALDWIN, MS. MURPHY, EITHER ONE.
AND TAKE YOUR TIME IF YOU NEED TO GET YOUR PRESENTATION UP.
MY NAME IS MARGO MURPHY WITH BALDWIN ASSOCIATES, 39 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 2 6.
UM, ROB BALDWIN AND I ARE HERE ON BEHALF OF THE OWNERS OF PD 17, AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING ABOUT PD 17.
IT IS MEDICARE ELIGIBLE IN FEBRUARY
SO THE PROPERTY OWNERS OF PD 17.
I'M GLAD YOU GUYS THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY.
UM, SO THE, FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS JOINTLY AGREED TO BRING THIS CASE BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO UPDATE THE PD, MAINLY TO UPDATE THE PARKING PROVISIONS AND ALSO TO REMOVE SOME OBSOLETE PROVISIONS BECAUSE THERE'S SOMETHING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, GIVING LAND FOR THE RIGHT OF WAY TO EXPAND PRESTON.
WELL, THAT HAPPENED A DECADE AGO, JUST DECADES AGO.
SO WE SUBMITTED AN APPLICATION AND WE MADE THAT REQUEST JUST TO REMOVE THE OBSOLETE UPDATE.
THE PARKING AND STAFF CAME BACK AND SAID, HEY, WHILE YOU'RE AT THAT, CAN, CAN WE JUST GO TO THE NEW CR STANDARDS? BECAUSE THE OR THREE STANDARDS, THEY DATE BACK TO THE 1948 CODE, WHICH BY THE WAY, I UNDERSTAND, A STAFF MEMBER HAD TO FIND IN A TOP DRAWER SOMEWHERE, AND IT'S MODIFIED BY THE 1951 CODE.
I, I'VE GOT IMAGES OF THAT IF YOU WANT.
SO THEY SAID, CAN WE JUST GO TO THE CR STANDARDS? SO WE SAID, SURE.
AND THEN, YOU KNOW, JUST GO TO THE PARKING STANDARDS, ADD LANDSCAPING.
AND THEN IN JUNE WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING.
AT THAT COMMUNITY MEETING WE SENT OUT THE NOTICES, A LETTER OF INFORMATION TO THE 75 PROPERTY OWNERS IN THE NOTICE AREA.
WE TELL 'EM ALL ABOUT WHAT WE WANNA DO AND WE INVITE THEM TO A COMMUNITY MEETING.
THEY COME TO A COMMUNITY MEETING IN JUNE, ALL FIVE OF THEM.
AND ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, THEY WERE A LITTLE NERVOUS WHEN THEY WALK IN.
LIKE MANY ARE LIKE, WHAT ARE YOU GUYS GOING TO DO? AND WE BASICALLY SAY, WE'RE JUST GONNA UPDATE THE CODE.
AND BY THE WAY, IT'S JUST GONNA MAKE IT EASIER TO INTERPRET IT PERMITTING.
I DON'T THINK ANYTHING IS GONNA CHANGE.
IT'S JUST GONNA OPERATE BETTER.
SO AFTER OUR PRESENTATION, THE NEIGHBORS WENT AWAY PRETTY HAPPY, ACTUALLY, THEY WERE RELIEVED.
COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH AND COMMISSIONER COX, TO THEIR CREDIT WE'RE BOTH THERE.
AND AFTERWARDS, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH SAID, HEY LOOK, I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SOMETHING BIG'S GONNA HAPPEN AT VALLEY VIEW AND I WANNA MAKE SURE I'M PROTECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO HE SAID, I WANT YOU TO COMPARE THE CR AND THE LR THREE STANDARDS, WHICH WE DID.
BASICALLY, WE SAID, OKAY, WE'LL REMOVE SOME CR THREE THINGS THAT WE DON'T THINK WE NEED, LIKE BUILDING REPAIR AND MAINTENANCE, ELECTRONIC SERVICE CENTER, ET CETERA.
BUT BY THE WAY, UNDER LR THREE, WE COULD HAVE A USED CAR LOT AND WE COULD HAVE A THINGS LIKE VULCANIZING THAT'S A TIRE STORE.
AND YEAH, WE'RE GIVING THAT UP.
UM, IN ADDITION, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH SAID, UM, I'M UNCOMFORTABLE WITH JUST THE PARKING AMENDMENT.
AND THEN THE HEIGHT, BECAUSE UNDER LR THREE, THE HEIGHT IS TWO AND A HALF STORIES.
SO HE ASKED STAFF, WELL, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AND THEY SAID, HMM, MAYBE 30 AND A HALF FEET, 32 FEET.
I MEAN, THEY WERE GUESSING TOO.
UM, THE SITE IS SUBJECT TO SB EIGHT 40.
UM, CR STANDARDS ARE LIKE 54 FEET, SO WE DECIDED AS 45 FEET, THAT'S YOUR TIME.
MR. BALDWIN, I GOT A COUPLE SLIDES HERE THAT I DON'T THINK WE NEED THIS.
BASICALLY, UM, MARGOT HIT IT ON THE HEAD.
WE'RE TRYING TO MODERNIZE THIS PD.
UH, I'VE NEVER SEEN AN LR THREE DISTRICT BEFORE.
IT HAD SURPRISED ME THAT THERE WAS EVEN SUCH A THING EXISTING.
UM, WE DID HAVE A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING.
THE COUNCIL MEMBER ASKED US TO CONSIDER A PARKING REQUIREMENT.
WE, WE SAID ONE TO 300 WOULD WOULD WORK FOR FOR WHAT WE'RE DOING.
UM, THE, IF YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, THE SHOPPING CENTER, UM, DRAW THE CORNER, PRESTON AND ALPHA.
IT'S AN OLDER SHOPPING CENTER AND WE DID SOME HISTORICAL AERIALS AND THERE IS PLENTY OF PARKING HERE.
THERE'S 526 PARKING SPACES, 5 2520 PARKING SPACES ON THE SITE TODAY, UH, AT ONE TO 300.
IT STILL GIVES US AN EXCESS OF OVER 200 PARKING SPACES.
UM, WE THINK UPGRADING TO THE NEW CR IS GONNA MAKE EVERYBODY'S LIFE FEE EASIER, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE GO TO PERMITTING.
BECAUSE I, I KNOW THAT NO ONE OVER AT OAK CLIFF MUNICIPAL CENTER HAS A COPY OF THE LR THREE ZONING DISTRICT.
UM, HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS.
WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE.
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ALRIGHT, IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT? HI, JOHN HETZEL WITH MADISON PARTNERS.UH, THEY ALREADY HAD THE PRESENTATION, SO I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT, BUT WE'RE ONE OF THE THREE PROPERTY OWNERS, UH, OF THIS REQUEST.
UH, WHAT I WILL SAY ON THE ONE TO 300 PARKING RATIO IS OUR PORTION OF THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW, IF IT EVEN WERE TO GO DOWN TO ONE TO TWO 50, UM, WE'D BE SHORT ON THREE PARKING SPACES.
AND SO THAT'S KIND OF HOW WE CAME UP WITH THE ONE TO 300.
UM, AND IT PREVENTS US FROM DOING THINGS LIKE WE HAVE A DOMINO'S IN THERE.
WE CAN'T LET 'EM PUT TABLES AND CHAIRS IN THE PIZZA RESTAURANT.
YOU KNOW, JUST LITTLE SIMPLE STUFF THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR A LITTLE BIT OF EXTRA FLEXIBILITY ON.
SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND YOUR ADDRESS, MR. HETZEL.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT? SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION.
COMMISSIONER COX, YOUR MOTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR.
JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS FOR NO COMMISSIONER COX MOTION, THEN YOU CAN OKAY.
COMMENT, QUESTION, WHATEVER YOU'D LIKE.
SO, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE, UH, TO APPROVE ZONING CASE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 7 9 AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANT SUBJECT TO THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND THE CONDITIONS INCLUDED IN THE CASE REPORT.
THIS MOTION DOES NOT ADOPT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION THAT PARKING CONFORM TO THE CURRENT CITYWIDE PARKING STANDARD.
COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR YOUR SECOND FLOOR IS YOURS, MR. COX.
UM, MS. MURPHY, JUST A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS AND I THINK YOU'VE ADDRESSED MOST OF 'EM.
BETWEEN YOU AND MR. BALDWIN, MOST OF 'EM HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED.
UM, WERE ALL THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN PD 17 ENGAGED IN THE AMENDMENT PROCESS? YES, SIR.
AND HAS EVERY PROPERTY OWNER WITHIN PD 17 AGREED TO THE CHANGES PROPOSED IN THIS AMENDMENT? YES, SIR.
AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY THE APPLICANTS BELIEVE A CUSTOMIZED PDS SPECIFIC RATIO IS MORE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS SITE THAN THE CITYWIDE PARKING STANDARDS? UH, WE'RE JUST RESPONDING TO THE CONCERNS, UH, THAT WERE MADE BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH.
I MEAN, HE'S VERY, UH, PROTECTIVE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND HE WANTS TO MAKE, ENSURE THAT THERE IS SUFFICIENT PARKING.
AND, UH, AND WE CAME UP WITH THAT RATIO THINKING IT WOULD BE A WIN-WIN.
AND WERE THOSE, UH, RATIOS ACCEPTABLE TO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AS WELL? YES, SIR.
AND WE DID, SIR, ON THAT POINT, UM, I DID SEND A FOLLOW UP LETTER TO THE FIVE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO ATTENDED BECAUSE WE HAD THEIR EMAIL ADDRESSES.
AND IN THAT LETTER I INCLUDED THE UPDATED CONDITIONS WITH AN EXPLANATION.
I ALSO INVITED THEM TO MEET WITH US, UM, AT THE STARBUCKS THERE ON SITE AT PRESTON AND ALPHA AND GAVE A COUPLE OF DATES, UH, BUT NO ONE REPLIED.
SO I THINK THEY MUST BE, UH, SATISFIED.
AND THERE'S JUST A COUPLE OF OTHER QUESTIONS.
UH, FOR THE RECORD, IS THE APPLICANT REQUESTING A MODIFICATION OF THE PDS EXISTING PARKING REQUIREMENTS AND NOT THE ADOPTION OF THE CITYWIDE PARKING STANDARDS? UH, THE, THE, THE APPLICANT IS, IS, IS HAPPY WITH A ONE TO 300 RATIO, SIR.
AND ARE THE APPLICANTS ASKING THE COMMISSION TO APPROVE A TAILORED REDUCTION THAT PRESERVES PD SPECIFIC STANDARDS AND AVOIDS TRIGGERING CITYWIDE PARKING REQUIREMENTS? WELL, WELL, THEY'RE HAPPY WITH A ONE TO 300, SIR.
I DO HAVE A FEW OTHER COMMENTS.
SO, AS YOU'VE HEARD, THIS PD IS A LITTLE BIT COMPLICATED.
UH, LONG LEGISLATIVE HISTORY BEGAN IN 62 AS A SPECIAL PERMIT UNDER ORDINANCE 9 1 4 8.
IT WAS FORMALLY CONVERTED INTO A PD IN 65.
SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN AMENDED MULTIPLE TIMES.
MOST RECENTLY IN 1984, GIVEN THE AGE OF THE ORDINANCE AND THE NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS OVER THE YEARS, UH, THE APPLICANTS, UH, FELT A CLEANUP AS MS, UM, MURPHY EXPLAINED, IS APPROPRIATE TO IMPROVE CLARITY AND ENTITLEMENTS FOR THE PROPERTY OWNERS AS THEY WORK OUT A JOINT DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT.
IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE FOUR OWNERS, NEIGHBORHOODS AND DISTRICT LEADERSHIP HAVE WORKED COLLABORATIVELY ON THIS REQUEST AND SUPPORT.
THESE PARTIES BELIEVE THAT A CUSTOM PARKING RATIO PRODUCES A MORE CONTEXT SENSITIVE AND OPERATIONALLY SOUND OUTCOME THAN THE CITYWIDE STANDARD.
THE TAILORED RATIO AVOIDS THE DOCUMENTED EFFECTS OF UNDER PARKING, SUCH AS SPILLOVER INTO ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROPERTIES, UNSAFE CIRCULATION WITHIN THE SITE, AND CONFLICTS WITH THE LOADING, UH, AND A DA ACCESS WHILE STILL REDUCING EXCESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND SUPPORTING IMPROVED SITE DESIGN.
PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS ARE LEGISLATIVE ZONING TOOLS.
THEY EXIST PRECISELY BECAUSE THE BASE CODE IS NOT ALWAYS APPROPRIATE FOR EVERY SITE.
IT IS THIS COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITY NOT STAFFS TO DETERMINE WHETHER THE CITYWIDE STANDARD FITS THE
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SPECIFIC CONTEXT ADJACENCY AND DEVELOPMENT PATTERN IN FRONT OF US.THE APPLICANT'S CUSTOM PARKING RATIO IS THE CORRECT STANDARD FOR THIS QUARTER.
UH, THE CITYWIDE RATIO WAS DESIGNED FOR A WALKABLE TRANSIT SERVED ENVIRONMENT PRECEDENT ALPHA IS NEITHER APPLYING.
THE CITYWIDE STANDARD HERE COULD CREATE PREDICTABLE OPERATIONAL FAILURES, SPILLOVER PARKING INTO ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS AND PROPERTIES, UNSAFE CIRCULATION WITHIN THE SITE, CONFLICTS WITH LOADING AND A DA EXCESS AND PRESSURE ON SURROUNDING BUSINESSES.
THE TAILORED RATIO AVOIDS THOSE HARMS WHILE STILL SERVING EXCESS, I'M SORRY, REDUCING EXCESS IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND SUPPORTING IMPROVED SITE DESIGN.
IT IS CONTEXT APPROPRIATE OPERATIONALLY SOUND AND FULLY CONSISTENT WITH HOW THE PDS ACROSS THE CITY ARE STRUCTURED.
WHEN THE BASE CODE DOES NOT FIT THE CORRIDOR, THE CUSTOM PARKING RATIO IS A NECESSARY PART OF THAT COMPATIBILITY.
FOR THESE REASONS, I MOVE, AGAIN FOR THE APPROVAL AS REQUESTED BY THE APPLICANTS AND ASK FOR THE SUPPORT OF MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
YEAH, I WON'T BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION.
UM, THERE I'M SURE ARE PROPERTIES IN THE CITY THAT DESERVE TO BE CARVED OUT OF OUR PARKING ORDINANCE.
PROPERTIES THAT HAVE EXCEPTIONAL CHARACTERISTICS OR COMPLEX, UH, CONTEXT.
UH, THIS PROPERTY IS NEITHER, THIS IS A, A ORDINARY STRIP CENTER RETAIL PROPERTY ON PRESTON ROAD, A STATE HIGHWAY.
AND I SEE NO RATIONALE FOR CARVING OUT AN, UH, THE, IN SETTING ASIDE THE, UH, PARKING ORDINANCE THAT, UH, SO MANY OF US WORKED SO HARD ON FOR SO MANY YEARS.
UH, THIS IS EXACTLY THE KIND OF PROPERTY THAT WE PASSED THE PARKING REFORM FOR TO MAKE IT A MORE PROSPEROUS PROPERTY, A MORE, UH, UH, PROPERTY WITH MORE FLEXIBILITY ON ITS DEVELOPMENT.
UM, ONE TO 300 IS A HIGHLY ARBITRARY NUMBER, SERVES NO PURPOSE WHATSOEVER.
I THINK STATING THIS AS A COLLABORATIVE PROCESS, AS AN OVERSTATEMENT.
UH, THE NEIGHBORS, UH, WERE PASSIVE.
THEY, THEY WERE PERFECTLY HAPPY WITH, UH, A, UH, UH, A REFORMING OF THIS PD.
AND, UH, THEY DID NOT COME WITH THE ONE TO 300 THAT WAS SOMEONE ELSE'S IDEA.
SO I COULD FULLY SUPPORT, UH, RECRAFTING THIS PD ON, ON A, IN, IN UPDATING THE, UH, THE LANGUAGE OF THE PD.
BUT, UH, TO GO HALFWAY THERE AND PLACE SOME ARBITRARY PARKING RATIO ON THE PROPERTY JUST SEEMS, UM, UNNECESSARY AND SEEMS TO BE A, A REALLY POOR PRECEDENT TO SET, UH, AS WE, UH, ATTEMPT TO ACCRUE THE BENEFITS OF OUR NEW PARKING ORDINANCE.
DID YOU HAVE SOMETHING? GO AHEAD.
THE ONLY THING I'D SAY ABOUT THIS CASE IS I FIND IT A LITTLE TROUBLING THAT THERE'S SO MUCH FOCUS ON WHAT THE COUNCIL MEMBER WANTS.
THE COUNCIL MEMBER GETS A CHANCE TO DO WHAT HE WANTS OR SHE WANTS AT COUNCIL.
AND IT'S ACTUALLY A VIOLATION OF OUR RULES FOR THE COUNCIL PEOPLE TO TELL US WHAT TO DO.
WE ARE AN INDEPENDENT BODY, AND THOUGH WE MAY BE ONLY A RECOMMENDING BODY, YOU LOSE SOME OF THAT INDEPENDENCE WHEN IT IS YOU'RE CONSTANTLY REMINDED.
BUT, HEY, LOOK, THE COUNCIL MEMBER REALLY WANTS YOU TO DO THIS IN THIS CASE.
AND I THINK THAT, UM, WAS MADE CLEAR IN THIS CASE AND THAT BOTHERS ME.
UH, MR. CHAIR, I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE MOTION IF IT'S APPROPRIATE.
UM, I, MY AMENDMENT WOULD SIMPLY BE, UH, TO, UH, REPLACE THE PARKING REQUIREMENT IN THE, IN THE PROPOSED PD WITH THE CURRENTLY ADOPTED CITY PARKING STANDARDS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER, UM, HOUSE RIGHT FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR YOUR SECOND DISCUSSION.
UM, I WILL HOP IN THERE MYSELF SINCE MY COMMENTS WERE GOING TO BE ON THE PARKING RATIO.
I THINK COMMISSIONER COX MADE A GOOD POINT WHEN HE SAID IT'S THIS COMMISSION'S RESPONSIBILITY TO EVALUATE WHAT PARKING IS APPROPRIATE IN A PARTICULAR AREA.
AND HE WENT ON TO SAY IT'S, YOU KNOW, NOT, STAFF SHOULDN'T BE ABLE TO DETERMINE THIS UNILATERALLY.
I THINK WE DO NEED TO EXERCISE OUR INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT HERE.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO NEED TO EXERCISE OUR INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT WHEN AN
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APPLICANT OR COMES TO US WITH A REQUEST OR RECOMMENDATION ON PARKING, OR EVEN WHETHER THERE'S APPARENTLY AN AGREEMENT, UM, BETWEEN THE APPLICANT AND A COUNCIL MEMBER OR THE APPLICANT.AND IT SOUNDS LIKE NONE OF THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHO CAME OUT TO THAT MEETING IN JUNE RAISED CONCERNS ABOUT THE PARKING RATIO, BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE THEY KIND OF ACQUIESCED TO THAT.
BUT, YOU KNOW, A AGREEMENT IS ONE IMPORTANT THING TO THINK ABOUT.
BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO EXERCISE OUR INDEPENDENT JUDGMENT AS A PLAN COMMISSION WHEN A, YOU KNOW, APPLICANT COMES INTO US AND SAID, YOU KNOW, WE HAD INITIALLY CAME IN AT, YOU KNOW, GO TO BASE CODE, BUT WE ARE AGREEING TO GO TO, UM, ONE TO 300.
WHAT IS THE BEST RESULT HERE FROM A LAND USE PERSPECTIVE? AND IN MY VIEW, AS COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT SAID, THIS SITE IS NOT UNIQUE.
IT'S ALONG A STATE HIGHWAY ACROSS FROM A FORMER MALL SITE THAT IS, YOU KNOW, VERY, YOU KNOW, WELL IT'S NOT MUCH GOING ON THERE NOW, BUT QUITE A BIT COULD BE GOING ON THERE IN THE FUTURE, IT SOUNDS LIKE.
UM, AND THIS SEEMS LIKE THE PERFECT SITE FOR OUR CITYWIDE PARKING STANDARDS TO APPLY TO.
I DON'T SEE ANYTHING UNIQUE HERE.
YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PLENTY OF OTHER SITES THAT ARE VERY SIMILAR TO THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THEIR BACK TO A, YOU KNOW, SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD.
AND THERE ARE WAYS TO PREVENT SPILLOVER PARKING IN THOSE AREAS, WHETHER IT'S NO PARKING OR RESIDENT ONLY SIGNS.
SO, YOU KNOW, PDS ARE AN IMPORTANT TOOL WHEN WE NEED THAT CUSTOM TOUCH.
UM, I DON'T SEE THAT THERE WITH THE PARKING, FRANKLY.
I WOULD'VE BEEN PRETTY MUCH OKAY WITH A CR HERE AND MAYBE SOME DEED RESTRICTIONS NIBBLING AROUND THE EDGES.
BUT I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO, ON THE PARKING FRONT, TO HONOR OUR POLICY ON PARKING WHEN IT MAKES SENSE.
UM, RATHER THAN GO TO CUSTOM RATIOS ON INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS OR PDS WHERE, YOU KNOW, IT'S A PRETTY MUCH RUN OF THE MILL, UM, AGING SHOPPING CENTER.
SO I AM GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION HERE IN APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR MAKING IT AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE FOURTH, THE DISCUSSION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT? YEAH, I WOULD JUST ADD A, A A POINT THAT WE DISCUSSED IN THE BRIEFING THIS MORNING THAT BECAUSE THIS PROPERTY IS NOT PLATTED AS A SINGLE PROPERTY AND WE HAVE THESE INTERNAL PROPERTY LINES, REDEVELOPMENT OF THIS CENTER COULD GET HUNG UP IN, IN PERMITTING BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE CORRECT RATIO BY PARCEL.
AND I THINK THAT WOULD BE A REAL SHAME.
UH, THIS IS, THIS IS, WE DON'T NEED TO BE MAKING THINGS HARDER AT PERMITTING THAN THEY ALREADY ARE IN SLOWING THINGS DOWN MORE THAN THEY ALREADY ARE SLOWED DOWN.
AND I THINK PLACING AGAIN, THIS ARBITRARY RATIO ON A PROPERTY LIKE THIS IS ABSOLUTELY THE WRONG THING TO DO.
COMMISSIONER SIMS, THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR.
AND I SECONDED COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT'S MOTION.
'CAUSE I, I WAS THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING, COMMISSIONER COX SAID THAT, UH, THE IDEA OF THIS BEING A WALKABLE OR TRANSIT ORIENTED NEIGHBORHOOD, AND MR. CHAIR, AS YOU NOTED, THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF DEVELOPMENT SOON TO COME NEAR THIS SITE.
AND I THINK INCREASING THE POTENTIAL FOR WALKABILITY IS A GOOD THING AS WE THINK ABOUT WHAT A PLAN IS AND PARKING SPACES ARE CLEARLY NOT ADDING TO WALKABILITY.
COMMISSIONER COX, JUST AS A POINT OF CLARIFICATION, I DON'T THINK I EVER SUGGESTED THAT THIS LOCATION WAS WALKABLE.
UH, IT'S OFF OF A MAJOR HIGHWAY, UH, CLEARLY NOT WALKABLE.
WHEN VALLEY VIEW IS DEVELOPED, IT'S STILL NOT GONNA BE WALKABLE WITH RESPECT TO THIS LOCATION ALONG PRESTON ROAD.
IN FACT, YOU'VE GOT APARTMENTS THAT ARE BEING BUILT AS WE SPEAK ACROSS THE STREET ON THE WEST SIDE OF VAL, UH, OF PRESTON ROAD.
THERE'S GONNA BE MORE OF THAT TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT.
THE ANSWER TO THIS MAY NOT MATTER, UM,
LIKE WHY THE NEW NUMBER? WHY NOT JUST GO WITH CODE? LIKE WHAT, WHAT SPECIFICALLY ABOUT THAT IS? WHY IS IT BEING BROUGHT UP? LIKE AGAIN, THAT THE ANSWER TO THAT MIGHT NOT MATTER.
MAYBE NOBODY KNOWS THE ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I, IT, IT WOULD HELP ME UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE.
IS THIS A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR THE COMMISSIONER WHO MADE THE MOTION? EITHER? IF THERE'S ANYBODY THAT CAN ANSWER IT.
DO YOU KNOW, UH, SOMEONE HAS A PHONE RINGING.
IF THEY COULD PLEASE SILENCE IT.
AFTER THE COMMUNITY MEETING, COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH ASKED US TO REVIEW, UH, THE CR USES, COMPARE 'EM WITH THER USES AS WELL AS THE PARKING.
UM, AND, AND, AND THAT'S WHY WE DID IT BECAUSE I BELIEVE
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HE BELIEVES THAT A PARKING RATIO IS, UH, NECESSARY TO PROTECT THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS.SO WE WERE JUST TRYING TO, UM, FIND SOMETHING, UH, A PARKING RATIO THAT WOULD BE SATISFACTORY TO OUR CLIENT, UM, PRESERVE SOME PARKING AND BE A WIN-WIN.
UM, DID YOU HAVE OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS? NO, I I, I, I DON'T THINK THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTION WHY, BUT I, I APPRECIATE YOUR RESPONSE, BUT OKAY.
I THOUGHT I HAD UNDERSTOOD IN YOUR, UM, COMMENTS THAT YOU HAD ALSO REVIEWED AS A PROPERTY OWNER, THE PARKING RATIO, AND THAT THE ONE TO 300 MET WHAT YOU UNDERSTOOD WAS NEEDED FOR THE SITE.
IS THAT, DID I HEAR THAT CORRECTLY? UH, YEAH.
WE, UM, WE INITIALLY EMBARKED ON THIS AND IT WAS BEFORE VALUE VIEW WAS ANNOUNCED OR ANY OF THOSE OTHER THINGS.
UM, WE JUST KNEW WE HAD A JUNKY OLD PD THAT NEEDED TO BE FIXED.
UM, AND SO OUR INITIAL THOUGHT WAS JUST TO GO TO BASE CR ZONING, LET EVERYTHING FLOW THROUGH, GET RID OF AN EXCESS PD, THAT'S PROBABLY NOT NEEDED.
UM, BUT, UM, AS MS. MURPHY STATED, THE COUNCILMAN EXPRESSED SOME CONCERNS AROUND NOT HAVING SOME PARKING RATIO.
SO WE TRIED TO COME UP WITH ONE THAT WOULD STILL PROVIDE SOME RELIEF RELATED TO OUR CURRENT PARKING RATIO OF ACTUAL BUILDINGS AND SPACES AND USES.
COMMISSIONER HALL, MAY I ASK DR.
HASHIMI, AND PARDON ME IF I MISSED THIS FROM THE BRIEFING.
THE PD, THE MOTION REFERS TO A ONE TO 300 PARKING RATIO.
WHAT WOULD, WHAT WOULD BE THE PARKING RATIO PER THE 2025 PARKING REFORM? UH, FOR MOST OF THE, UH, USERS, LIKE OFFICE RETAIL IS GONNA BE ZERO.
AND FOR RESTAURANTS, UM, OVER 2,500.
UM, I DON'T HAVE IT ON TOP OF MY MIND, BUT, UH, IT'S ONE SPACE PER 200 I THINK, AND FOR THE REST IS ZERO.
SO HOW MANY PARKING SPACES EXIST RIGHT NOW? DID I HEAR 500? 500, 20, 20? YEAH.
UH, UNDER THE, THE NEW PARKING POLICIES OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, HOW MANY WOULD BE REQUIRED? I AM NOT SURE.
BUT IT'S GONNA BE LESS THAN 520, OF COURSE.
AND AT, AT ONE TO 300, WHAT WOULD IT BE? UH, IT'S 3 23 I BELIEVE.
AM AM I RIGHT IN ASSUMING THAT THEN ONE TO 300 IS MORE THAN WHAT THE NEW PARKING CODES WOULD BE? IT IS.
WE JUST DON'T KNOW THE NUMBER.
BUT, UM, BASED ON MY OBSERVATION AND THE EXISTING USERS AND BUILDING SIZE, I THINK OKAY.
IT'S MORE THAN MAY I ASK THE, UH, THE OWNER A QUESTION.
AND SO BY THE, THE NEW DALLAS PARKING REVISIONS THAT WERE PASSED LAST YEAR, YOU WOULD END UP, LET'S JUST, I, I DON'T KNOW, LET'S SAY 290
AND SO WHEN YOU HAVE A PARKING REQUIREMENT THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE SITE, THE PD AS A WHOLE SEEMS LIKE SIGNIFICANT RELIEF.
INDIVIDUAL PARCELS CAN BE MUCH TIGHTER.
AND THAT RATIO APPLIES TO EACH INDIVIDUAL PARCEL REGARDLESS OF WHATEVER PRIVATE AGREEMENTS WE COME UP WITH TO SHARE PARKING AND THINGS OF THAT SORT AS WELL.
AND FOR THIS PD TO WORK MORE HOLISTICALLY.
BUT, UH, YEAH, AT THE, AT THE ONE PER 300, THE REDUCTION IT, IT WOULD PROVIDE RELIEF AND GIVE US SOME ADDITIONAL FLEXIBILITY.
OBVIOUSLY GOING TO THE PARKING REFORM RATIOS OF LET THE MARKET DECIDE AND NOT GET HUNG UP IN PERMITTING AROUND PARKING AND THINGS LIKE THAT WOULD PROVIDE MORE FLEXIBILITY, UM, IN OWNERS TEND TO PREFER THAT.
WE ALSO TRY TO BE COLLABORATIVE WHEN WE CAN.
I DO HAVE ONE OTHER THING THAT I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT I MENTION ON
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THE, THE RECORD, AND THIS MAY BE A QUESTION, BUT, YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF US SPENT MEETING AFTER MEETING AND HOUR AFTER HOUR TALKING ABOUT PARKING REFORM AND, AND ALL THAT.I JUST DO WANNA, YOU KNOW, MAKE CLEAR FOR SOME OF THE NEW PEOPLE IN THIS BODY THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS PARKING MINIMUMS REQUIRED BY THE CITY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A PARKING RATIO, THIS APPLICANT, IF WE WENT TO THE, UM, YOU KNOW, CITY, YOU KNOW, BASE REQUIREMENTS, WHICH ARE, YOU KNOW, SOME FOR SOME RETAIL AND RESTAURANT OR FOR SOME RESTAURANT AND, AND, YOU KNOW, OTHER USES DON'T REQUIRE PARKING.
THAT DOESN'T GET RID OF A SINGLE PARKING REQUIRE SITE A SPOT ON THIS SITE.
IT JUST MEANS THAT, UM, THERE'S NOT A MINIMUM THAT THE CITY IMPOSES.
AND YOU KNOW, WITH WHAT WE'VE SEEN SO FAR IN THE LAST YEAR AND A HALF, I HAVE NOT SEEN, YOU KNOW, TONS OF PARKING GO AWAY TO THE POINT WHERE, YOU KNOW, ANYTHING DISASTROUS HAS HAPPENED.
SO I DO JUST WANNA, YOU KNOW, CONTEXTUALIZE THIS BECAUSE SOMETIMES WE TALK ABOUT RATIOS AND WE'RE NOT CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THOSE RATIOS ARE THROUGH, YOU KNOW, NO FAULT OF ANYONE, BUT, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US WHO'VE BEEN DOING THIS A LONG TIME, JUST SORT OF TALK ABOUT IT CASUALLY.
BUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE IS A CITY SET MINIMUM PARKING.
IT'S NOT PREVENTING, YOU KNOW, ANY PROPERTY OWNER FROM PROVIDING AS, AS MUCH PAR PARKING AS THEY WANT AND THINK THEY NEED ON THEIR PROPERTY TO, YOU KNOW, SERVE THEIR CUSTOMERS, THEIR RESIDENTS, ET CETERA, ET CETERA.
SO I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT WE, YOU KNOW, SET THAT SORT OF, YOU KNOW, FRAME OF DISCUSSION BEFORE WE WE MOVE ON HERE.
ANY OTHER, UM, DISCUSSION ON THE HOUSE, RIGHT? AMENDMENT? ALRIGHT.
WHY DON'T WE TAKE A RECORD VOTE ON IT.
IT IS A, UM, MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOUSE RIGHT TO GO TO BASE PARKING FOR THE PD CITY BASED PARKING.
MR. CHAIR, PARDON ME FOR INTERRUPTED.
WOULD YOU BE VERY CLEAR ON WHAT COMMISSIONER HOUSE HOUSE RIGHTS? YES.
NO, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ACCEPTED BY THE OFFER.
SO WE ARE TAKING A RECORD VOTE.
SO WE'RE BACK TO THE MAIN MOTION AS AMENDED.
FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE ITEM.
OKAY, WE HAVE A AMENDED MOTION.
UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE.
ITEM NUMBER, ACTUALLY LET'S TAKE A BREAK BEFORE ITEM 16.
LET'S TAKE FIVE MINUTES AND BE BACK AT, UH, 1 44.
ALRIGHT EVERYONE, IF YOU COULD PLEASE TAKE YOUR SEATS.
WE CAN, UH, GET THIS MEETING MOVING AGAIN.
IT IS 1:53 PM AND THIS MEETING OF THE CITY PLANT COMMISSION IS BACK ON THE RECORD.
[16. 26-2669A An application for 1) an amendment to Planned Development District No. 800 and for the creation and expansion of new subdistricts therein for specified non-residential uses and 2) a new Specific Use Permit for a pedestrian skybridge on property zoned Planned Development No. 800, on the southeast line of Cadiz Street, between Riverfront Boulevard and the Union Pacific RR and the north and south lines of Riverfront Boulevard, northwest of Corinth Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval of 1) an amendment to PD 800, subject to a development plan, amended Exhibit 800A and 800B, and amended conditions and 2) a new Specific Use Permit for a pedestrian skybridge, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Therme Dallas LLC Representative: Victoria Morris, Suzanne Keron [Jackson Walker LLP] U/A From: July 23, 2026. Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 2 Z-25-000094]
WE COULD READ IN CASE NUMBER 16.WE JUST DID 15, SO WE'RE IN 16.
AND, UH, WE'RE SENDING AROUND JUST A LIST OF THESE, UH, CONDITION CHANGES HERE.
UH, ITEM 16 IS CASE Z 25 0 9 4, AN APPLICATION FOR ONE AND AMENDMENTS OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 800, AND FOR THE CREATION AND EXPANSION OF NEW SUBDISTRICTS THEREIN FOR SPECIFIED NON-RESIDENTIAL USES.
AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PEDESTRIAN SKYBRIDGE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT.
NUMBER 800 ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF CA STREET BETWEEN RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD AND THE UNION PACIFIC RAILROAD, AND THE NORTH AND SOUTH LINES OF RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD NORTHWEST OF CORINTH STREET.
STATUTE RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF ONE, AN AMENDMENT TO PD 800, SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN WITH CHANGES AMENDED EXHIBIT 800 A AND 800 B, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS WITH CHANGES.
AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PEDESTRIANS SKYBRIDGE, SUBJECT TO A CONDITIONS.
AND I'LL READ THOSE CHANGES INTO THE RECORD NOW, I THINK IS THE RIGHT WAY TO DO IT.
SO AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO STATE THAT FOR THE SOUTHEASTERN SOUTHWESTERN PORTIONS OF REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS, THE USES
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MUST INCLUDE A WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO STRIKE PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE FROM OPEN SPACE IN SECTION 1 0 8.
SUBSECTION B, ADD CONTRACTORS MAINTENANCE YARD IS A USE ACCEPTED FROM PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USE REQUIREMENTS AND STRIKE PROVISIONS, ALLOWING AN SUP TO MODIFY PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USE REQUIREMENTS.
THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENTS IN SECTION ONE 10 IN SUBSECTION B.
PARAGRAPH ONE, ADD CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE YARD IN SUBSECTION B, PARAGRAPH TWO IN SUBPARAGRAPH B STRIKE, SUP EXCEPTION.
AND THEN PARAGRAPH E, ADD CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE YARD IN SUBSECTION E, PARAGRAPH TWO, SUBPARAGRAPH A, ADD CONTRACTOR'S MAINTENANCE YARD OR COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT OUTSIDE.
AND ROMAN AT TWO OF THAT PARAGRAPH, STRIKE THE SCP EXCEPTION AND SUBSECTION E.
PARAGRAPH FOUR, CHANGE 50 FEET TO 40 FEET.
AND SUBSECTION I AMEND PARAGRAPH ONE TO APPLY ONLY TO A REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
AND SUBSECTION J ADD PARAGRAPH THREE STATING THAT THE LOCATION OF THE PRIVATE OPEN SPACE IS NOT REQUIRED TO BE SHOWN ON THE REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
DELETE REFERENCE TO OPEN SPACE BEING PUBLICLY ACCESSIBLE IN SUBSECTION K AND HAVE THE SUBSECTION K OPEN SPACE APPLY ONLY TO A REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS IN SECTION ONE 11 SUBSECTION D.
PARAGRAPH TWO, SUBPARAGRAPH A CHANGE 14 FEET TO 16 FEET IN SECTION ONE 12 SUBSECTION B.
PARAGRAPH THREE, CHANGE RUMBLE.
STRIP TO TACTILE DIRECTIONAL INDICATOR AND SIDEWALK AND PLANTING ZONE TO SIDEWALK AND BICYCLE LANE.
IN SECTION ONE 15 SUBSECTION C, PARAGRAPH TWO, REPLACE, HAVE A MATCHING FACADE APPEARANCE WITH BE ARCHITECTURALLY SCREENED AND REQUIRE THE SCREENING IN THE SECOND SENTENCE TO BE SOLID.
SCREENING IN SECTION ONE 17 SUBSECTION C, PARAGRAPH THREE, STRIKE DESERT WILLOW AS A RECOMMENDED TREE SPECIES IN SECTION ONE 20, SUBSECTION B, PARAGRAPH TWO.
REPLACE ALL TEXT WITH, EXCEPT FOR A REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
FOR SUBDISTRICT ONE, THE MINIMUM BLOCK LENGTH IS 200 FEET MEASURED ALONG THE INNER EDGE OF EACH STREET RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE POINT OF ONE BLOCK BREAK TO THE POINT OF THE NEXT BLOCK BREAK.
AND SUBDISTRICT ONE MUST BE DIVIDED BY A MINIMUM OF ONE BLOCK BREAK CONSISTING OF AN INTERNAL STREET, A SECONDARY STREET, A MEANDER, OR A PEDESTRIAN TRAIL.
FINALLY, IN SECTION ONE 20, SUBSECTION B, A MID PARAGRAPH THREE TO READ FOR A REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS, NO MINIMUM BLOCK LENGTH AND NO BLOCK BREAKS ARE REQUIRED AS SHOWN ON THE REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS DEVELOPMENT PLAN.
UH, DO WE HAVE ANY SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT ON ITEM NUMBER 16 TO TALK? OKAY.
UH, I'M THE EXECUTIVE CHAIRMAN OF THERMO US.
UH, MY MISSION IN THAT POSITION IS TO GUIDE THE DEVELOPMENT OF 10 THERMOS ACROSS THE UNITED STATES.
UM, OUR DECISION ABOUT, WHICH I'LL SAY MORE LATER, IS TO BUILD OUR FIRST IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
UM, MY ADDRESS IS ONE 10 GREEN STREET.
UH, BEFORE I TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, UH, OUR PROPOSAL, LET ME EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION, UH, TO THE STAFF THAT PROVIDED A VERY THOUGHTFUL AND CAREFUL REVIEW OF OUR SUBMISSION.
AND TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, WHOSE ENGAGEMENT, UH, WITH US OVER THE LAST MONTH HAS SIGNIFICANTLY IMPROVED OUR SUBMISSION THAT YOU ARE CURRENTLY REVIEWING.
SO WE ARE APPRECIATIVE FOR TO BOTH STAFF AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION.
YEAH, SIR, IF YOU COULD SPEAK A LITTLE CLOSER TO THE MICROPHONE.
UM, IS, UH, HOW'S THIS MR. CHAIR? GREAT.
IT, IT'S RARE THAT, UH, MY VOICE NEEDS TO GET LOUDER, BUT I APPRECIATE IN THIS INSTANCE I'LL DO IT.
UM, WE LIVE AT A TIME IN WHICH OUR CITIES ARE UNDERGOING SUBSTANTIAL CHANGES.
UH, DALLAS, LIKE MANY CITIES, SEEKS TO FIND WAYS TO REJUVENATE ITS URBAN CORE AND TO FIND NEW FORMS OF SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE.
WE USED TO COME DOWNTOWN TO SHOP.
UH, WE USED TO COME DOWNTOWN TO GATHER IN A VARIETY OF CIVIC EVENTS, UH, IN DALLAS AND ELSEWHERE.
UH, THOSE KINDS OF ACTIVITIES INCREASINGLY ARE DISPERSED ACROSS A MUCH BROADER URBAN AREA.
CITIES SEEK NEW WAYS TO PROVIDE CLASSIC EXPERIENCES OF BRINGING COMMUNITY TOGETHER, FINDING WAYS THAT CUT ACROSS INCOME, CUTS ACROSS GEOGRAPHY, CUTS ACROSS RACE, AND FINDS WAYS FOR CITIES TO DO WHAT THEY ARE BRILLIANT AT DOING, WHICH IS CREATING COMMUNITY.
THERMO'S MISSION IS TO CREATE AN IMPORTANT PART OF SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
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UH, WE, PARTICULARLY IN A POST COVID ENVIRONMENT WHERE PUBLIC HEALTH, WHERE HUMAN HEALTH, WHERE WELLBEING IS INCREASINGLY A PRIORITY OF INDIVIDUALS, FAMILIES, AND GOVERNMENTS.WE PROVIDE A HEALTH AND WELLBEING ENVIRONMENT THAT SERVES EVERYBODY.
UH, WHAT HAPPENS IN A THERMA ARE THREE THINGS.
UH, IT'S REALLY QUITE DIFFERENT THAN A SPA, WHICH TENDS TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL AND ISOLATED EXPERIENCE.
UH, THINK THE ROMAN BATHS, THINK THE BATHS OF CARALA.
THINK THE BATHS OF DIOCLETIAN.
UH, WE WILL HAVE THREE TO 7,000 PEOPLE AT A TIME IN OUR BUILDING.
WE'LL SERVE UP TO 2 MILLION PEOPLE A YEAR.
UH, AND WE DO SO AT AFFORDABLE PRICES.
SO ALL THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AND YOUR REGION CAN ATTEND.
THEY'LL THERMAL BATHE, THEY'LL INVOLVE IN SAUNA.
VERY DIFFERENT KIND OF SAUNA EXPERIENCE THAN MOST OF US ARE USED TO.
AND WE HAVE A PLAY ZONE, UH, THAT IS A SOURCE OF JOY FOR CHILDREN OF ALL AGES, INCLUDING MINE.
WE'RE THE MIDST OF A MAJOR EXPANSION.
YOU HAVE, UH, THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK AND THAT CONCLUDES YOUR THREE MINUTES.
CAN I JUST SAY ONE THING QUICKLY, SIR? EVERYONE GETS THEIR THREE MINUTES, BUT I, I APPRECIATE IT.
UM, LET ME TURN IT OVER, UH, TO MY COLLEAGUE, PHIL GEHI.
WE REPRESENT, UH, SUB-DISTRICT ONE PHIL WITH, UH, MATTHEWS.
UH, IS THE ENTITY SEEKING TO DO APPROVAL FOR DISTRICTS TWO, THREE, AND FOUR.
I'M A SENIOR VICE PRESIDENT MATTHEWS.
AND MY ADDRESS 6 6 4 0 6 EF DRIVE IN DALLAS, TEXAS.
FIRST, I WANNA THANK EVERY ONE OF YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR TIME ON THIS COMMISSION.
I KNOW IT'S REALLY HARD SOMETIMES, AND YOU REALLY MAKE A DIFFERENCE, ESPECIALLY FOR RESIDENTS LIKE ME.
SO WE CONTROL THE PARTNERSHIP THAT OWNS ALL OF THE LAND IN P 800.
WE'VE ALSO SPENT THE LAST THREE YEARS WORKING WITH THERMA TO GET HERE.
THEY ARE THE RIGHT PARTNER FOR THIS GROUND IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD.
I WANNA MAKE TWO VERY QUICK POINTS TO YOU.
FIRST, THE CEDARS MATTHEWS HAS BEEN INVESTING IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD FOR 30 YEARS.
WE'VE BEEN STEWARDS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND A STEADY PARTNER FOR THE CITY, AND WE'RE GONNA BE HERE FOR ANOTHER 30 YEARS.
THE HISTORY OF THE SITE IS PRETTY INCREDIBLE.
THIS WAS SUPPOSED TO BE WHERE JERRY WORLD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE BUILT IN 2008, P 800 WAS SUPPOSED TO PROVIDE THOUSANDS OF APARTMENTS IN A RIVERFRONT DISTRICT DEVELOPED BY A MAJOR APARTMENT DEVELOPER.
IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE AN OBSERVATION WHEEL, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A BIG ATTRACTION FOR THE CITY IN AN OFFICE BUILDING.
WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU IS DIFFERENT.
IT'S A DESTINATION BUILT TO BE USED BY PEOPLE WHO LIVE NEARBY.
IT'S AN ACCESSIBLE HEALTH AND WELLNESS.
THEY'LL BECOME PART OF OUR SOCIAL INFRASTRUCTURE AS JOHN ARTICULATED, AND IT'S GONNA BE A DAY ONE ATTRACTION FOR VISITORS.
IT'S GONNA, YOU KNOW, ENCOURAGE OUR SUBURBAN NEIGHBORS TO COME DOWN TO THE CITY AND IT'S GONNA SUPPORT THE CITY'S VISION TO EXPAND THE CONVENTION YEAR'S ENTERTAINMENT OPTIONS.
THIS HAS BEEN AN INDUSTRIAL AND VACANT LAND SITTING BETWEEN A GREAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND ITS RIVER FOR A VERY LONG TIME.
THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO CHANGE THAT.
SECOND, YOU'RE PROBABLY ALL WONDERING WHAT KIND OF COMES NEXT AFTER THIS.
THIS AMENDMENT CREATES A FRAMEWORK TO ENABLE THERM TO HAPPEN, BUT IT ALSO GIVES MATTHEWS ENOUGH FLEXIBILITY, BUT ALSO ENOUGH DIRECTION FROM YOU TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ADDRESS THE PUBLIC REALM CORRECTLY.
THE FIRST FIRMS OF THERMS OF THE FIRST PHASE IS NOT THE LAST ONE.
WE OWNED ALL THE SURROUNDING ANCHORAGE AND WE'RE WORKING ON A DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR COMPLEMENTARY USES, RETAIL, HOTEL, APARTMENTS, YOU KNOW, MAYBE EVEN OFFICE.
WE'LL SEE WHAT THE MARKET SAYS.
THAT PLAN INCLUDES PUBLIC SPACE ALONG THE OLD TRINITY RIVER THROUGH THE WATER COMMONS.
AND WHAT'S INTERESTING WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE THER SITE PLAN, IT USES ALL OF THIS AS AN AMENITY.
WE'LL BE BACK IN FRONT OF THIS COMMISSION TO TALK ABOUT OUR FUTURE PLANS AT ANOTHER, AT ANOTHER DATE.
BUT THERM IS THE CATALYST ONE THAT BRINGS ADDITIONAL PUBLIC AND PRIVATE INVESTMENT JOBS, VITALITY OF THE CEDARS, AND WE'RE ALL WILLING TO BE HELD TO THE STANDARDS OF THIS FORM-BASED CODE.
IN CLOSING, I AGAIN WANT TO ECHO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S EFFORTS OVER THE LAST MONTH.
SHE HAS DONE YEOMAN'S WORK IN TERMS OF GETTING US TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
AND I ALSO WANT TO JUST SAY WE'VE HELD THIS LAND FOR A LONG TIME.
WE'RE HERE FOR THE LONG TERM AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BRING THERM TO DALLAS.
HELLO, MY NAME IS KIRK JORDAN.
I AM THE IMMEDIATE PAST PRESIDENT
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OF THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION.I LIVE AT 1 6 1 5 SOUTH HER BAY STREET HERE IN DALLAS, 7 5 2 1 5.
I LIVE AT CORNER PROUDLY TO CITY PARK.
UH, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO SAY IS, AS A NEIGHBORHOOD LEADER, I SUPPORT THE PROPOSED THE DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE IT OFFERS OPPORTUNITY TO BRING MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT JOBS AND NEW AMENITY TO THE AREA THAT HAS NOT ALWAYS BENEFITED FROM THE FULLY ECONOMIC DEVELOP INITIATIVES.
WE IN THE CGES ARE ACTIVE IN MAKING THAT CHANGE WITH OUR INVESTMENTS AND OUR ACTIONS.
THERMA IS A STRONG FIT FOR THE RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD, THE PROPERTY PROXIMITY TO DOWNTOWN, THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER.
THE TRINITY RIVER MAKES IT WELL SUITED FOR A DESTINATION FOCUSED ON WELLNESS, RECREATION, AND HOSPITALITY.
THE PROJECT COULD ACTIVATE THIS SITE WHILE CREATING STRONGER CONNECTIONS AMONG DOWNTOWN, THE RIVER AND NEARBY NEIGHBORHOODS.
SPECIFICALLY THOSE SO ADJACENT, AS SAYS LIKE THE CEDARS FAIR PARK, OAK CLIFF IN SOUTHERN DOWNTOWN FOR RESIDENTS.
THIS MEASURE, THIS MEASURE OF PROJECT'S, SUCCESS WILL BE WHETHER ITS BENEFITS EXTEND BEYOND THE PROPERTY ITSELF.
I ENCOURAGE THERMO TO PRIORITIZE LOCAL HIRING, WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES FOR SMALL AND MINORITY OWNED BUSINESSES, ACCESSIBILITY PROGRAMS, AND CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT WITH THE CEDARS AND SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES.
IN PARTICULAR, I'M GLAD WE WOULD LIKE TO ADVOCATE FOR ACCESSIBILITY TO OUR TEACHERS, FIREFIGHTERS, POLICE, AND FIRST RESPONDERS.
SAFE PEDESTRIAN CONNECTIONS, RESPONSIBLE TRAFFIC PLANNING AND APPROVED ACCESS TO THE TRINITY RIVER SHOULD REMAIN CENTRAL TO THE DEVELOPMENT WITH THOSE PRIORITIES IN PLACE.
THEMA CAN BE MORE THAN A VISITOR ATTRACTION.
IT CAN BE A PLACE WHERE DALLAS RESIDENTS GATHERED TO RELAX.
IT CAN BE A STRONG COMMUNITY PARTNER AND A SOURCE OF PRIDE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AND WORK NEARBY.
I'VE RESPECTFULLY ASKED YOU TO SUPPORT THE REQUEST.
GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR RUBEN AND C COMMISSIONERS.
I AM THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF VISIT DALLAS.
I LIVE AT 1 2 1 8 NORTH WINNETKA AVENUE IN DALLAS.
OUR TEAM ENTHUSIASTICALLY SUPPORTS THE PROPOSED THERMO DEVELOPMENT BECAUSE DALLAS NEEDS DISTINCTIVE ATTRACTIONS THAT GIVE PEOPLE NEW REASONS TO VISIT, STAY LONGER, COME BACK, AND CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY IN OUR BUSINESS.
AS PHIL HAD REFERRED TO, THIS IS CALLED A FIRST DAY ATTRACTION.
AS VISITORS CRAVE EXPERIENCES, THEY CAN'T GET IN THEIR OWN BACKYARDS AND THERMA IS EXACTLY THAT.
THERMOS EUROPEAN LOCATIONS, PARTICULARLY IN BUCHAREST AND NEAR MUNICH, HAVE ESTABLISHED A POWERFUL TRACK RECORD.
THESE ARE NOT SMALL OPERATIONS.
AND THERMA BUCHAREST WELCOMES NEARLY 2 MILLION VISITORS ANNUALLY AND ANCHORS AN ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THE FACILITIES ARE LEAD CERTIFIED, EMPLOY THOUSANDS AND GENERATE SUBSTANTIAL GROWTH ECONOMIC ACTIVITY ACROSS HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, RETAIL AND CULTURAL VENUES.
THEY'VE DONE THIS CONSISTENTLY YEAR AFTER YEAR.
THE SITE THEY'VE SELECTED IS PERFECT, LOCATED IN THE CEDARS NEIGHBORHOOD.
IT WILL SERVE AS AN AMENITY FOR MILLIONS OF VISITORS WHO COME TO DALLAS EVERY YEAR AND WILL BE INCREDIBLY CONVENIENT TO THE NEW KAY BAILEY HUTCHINSON CONVENTION CENTER THAT IT OPENS UP IN 2030, THEREBY COMPLIMENTING THE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENT THAT HAS BEEN MADE IN THE CONVENTION CENTER.
THERMA BRINGS SOMETHING WE DON'T HAVE A WORLD-CLASS WELLNESS DESTINATION CAPABLE OF ELEVATING DALLAS'S INTERNATIONAL PROFILE, SUPPORTING SUSTAINED JOB GROWTH, AND STRENGTHENING OUR COMPETITIVE POSITION AS A PREMIER DESTINATION FOR LEISURE TRAVEL AND CONVENTIONS.
UH, MY NAME IS EVAN SHEETS VICE PRESIDENT PLANNING AND POLICY PROGRAM.
I DON'T THINK THE MICROPHONE'S ON.
MY NAME IS EVAN SHEETS VICE PRESIDENT, PLANNING AND POLICY FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC.
AS ADVOCATES FOR DOWNTOWN DALLAS, DDI SUPPORTS THE PROPOSED THERMA DEVELOPMENT AS IT ADVANCES SEVERAL KEY IMPORTANT PRIORITIES FOR DOWNTOWN, ATTRACTING PRIVATE INVESTMENT, CREATING A MORE VIBRANT MIX OF USES AND FURTHER STRENGTHENING CONNECTIONS TO NEIGHBORHOODS, ESPECIALLY TO THE SOUTH.
THERMOS ESPECIALLY WELL SUITED TO THIS SITE ON RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD.
ITS WELLNESS, RECREATION, HOSPITALITY, AND TOURISM OFFERINGS WOULD COMPLEMENT THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER, GIVE RESIDENTS, CONVENTION, ATTENDEES AND OTHER VISITORS ANOTHER COMPELLING REASON TO COME TO THE CORE OF OUR CITY.
BY ACTIVATING AN UNDERUSED PROPERTY WITH YEAR-ROUND DESTINATION, THE PROJECT COULD GENERATE ADDITIONAL ACTIVITY FOR DOWNTOWN HOTELS, RESTAURANTS, OUR RETAILERS, AND OUR CULTURAL INSTITUTIONS.
DOWNTOWN NEEDS AMBITIOUS PROJECTS THAT BUILD ON PUBLIC INVESTMENT, BROADEN OUR APPEAL AND CONTRIBUTE
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TO A MORE CONNECTED AND DYNAMIC URBAN CENTER, INVITING THE REGION TO EXPERIENCE WHAT THE CORE OF DALLAS HAS TO OFFER.THERMA HAS THE POTENTIAL TO DO EXACTLY THAT.
WE RESPECTFULLY ASK YOU TO SUPPORT THIS REQUEST TODAY.
AND I JUST WANTED TO NOTE ONE THING ON THE RECORD THAT I DIDN'T, UM, NOTE EARLIER IS COMMISSIONER WHEELER REAGAN IS, UM, REFUSED ON THIS CASE, SO SHE'S NOT PARTICIPATING IN A IT'S CONSIDERATION.
NEXT SPEAKER IN SUPPORT VICTORIA MORRIS WITH JACKSON WALKER.
2323 ROSS AVENUE, SUITE 600 IN DALLAS.
WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY WITH A TRULY TRANSF TRANSFORMATIVE PROJECT FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
UH, AS YOU RECALL, WE WERE ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AGENDA FOR CPCS CONSIDERATION IN JULY.
AND SINCE THEN WE HAVE WORKED VERY CLOSELY WITH COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND CITY STAFF TO REFINE OUR REQUEST TO MAINTAIN THE ORIGINAL INTENT OF THE PD WITH PARTICULAR FOCUS ON THE PUBLIC REALM AND THE STREET LEVEL EXPERIENCE, INCLUDING ENHANCED DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER, THE THERMA, AND THE BROADER REGIONAL WELLNESS CAMPUS.
A FEW KEY HIGHLIGHTS INCLUDE A MINIMUM OF 250,000 SQUARE FEET FOR THE WELLNESS AND EDUCATION CENTER.
AN ADDITIONAL 5% OF OPEN SPACE FOR A TOTAL OF 10% WITH AN ADDITIONAL LANDSCAPE BUFFER ON RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD.
KEY SUSTAINABLE DESIGN FEATURES HAVE ALSO BEEN INCLUDED, UH, WATER SAVING IRRIGATION METHODS, BIRD PROTECTION STRATEGIES FOR THE EXTERIOR FACADES, GREEN INFRASTRUCTURE STRATEGIES, AND NATIVE PLANT SPECIES.
ADDITIONAL PLANTING AND AMENITIES ZONES HAVE BEEN INCLUDED ON HOTEL STREET WHEN THERE IS A SURFACE PARKING PARALLEL ON STREET PARKING AND A MINIMUM GROUND FLOOR HEIGHT FOR A PARKING GARAGE TO ACCOMMODATE PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED USES.
ARCHITECTURAL COMPATIBILITY FOR THE FACADE, SCREENING REQUIREMENTS FOR THE PARKING GARAGE AND LOADING AREAS, AND OF COURSE, PEDESTRIAN AND BICYCLE TRAILS TO PROVIDE CONNECTIVITY TO THE TRINITY RIVER WITH INCREASED SIDEWALK WIDTHS ALONG THE MEANDERS.
AS YOU CAN SEE, THERE IS AN EXTENSIVE LIST AND WE'RE, AGAIN, VERY APPRECIATE APPRECIATIVE TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR HER THOROUGH AND THOUGHTFUL, UH, REVIEW OF THIS REQUEST.
AND OF COURSE, AGAIN, TO CITY STAFF.
WITH THAT, I WILL PASS IT TO MY COLLEAGUE SUZANNE FOR THE FINAL REVISIONS.
GOOD AFTERNOON CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION.
SUZANNE KEDRON, 2323 ROSS AVENUE.
WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TO YOU WITH YOU TODAY WITH THE SUPPORT OF THE COMMUNITY, UH, A LOT OF THE COMMUNITY BUSINESS LEADERS AND THE SUPPORTIVE STAFF, AND HOPEFULLY OUR COMMISSIONER AS WELL AND YOU ALL AS WELL.
UM, THIS IS A COMPLICATED SITE AS YOU SAW IN THE BRIEFING.
WE'RE TRYING TO UNIFY THREE SPECIFIC, THREE INDEPENDENT TRACKS INTO ONE, USING THINGS SUCH AS OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA TO SPAN A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE.
UH, WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
UH, I JUST, UH, THERE'S THREE THINGS I'D LIKE TO FOCUS ON IN OUR FINAL, FINAL REVISIONS.
UM, THE OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA.
WE DID REDUCE THAT AREA AGAIN FROM 50 DOWN TO 40 FEET.
UH, WE INCLUDED HIGHER GARAGE HEIGHTS FROM 14 FEET TO 16 FEET, AND WE HAD SCREENING OF, UH, THE GARAGE AND THE VEHICLE HEADLIGHTS.
WE ARE SO THANKFUL AND APPRECIATIVE TO BE HERE TODAY.
WHAT I'M MOST EXCITED FOR AND EXCITED FOR THIS CITY IS THAT IT'S THE FIRST IN THE UNITED STATES.
THE FIRST IN TEXAS, THE FIRST IN DALLAS, THE FIRST SOUTH OF DOWNTOWN, AND THE FIRST PROJECT IN THE CEDARS.
SO WITH THAT, I SEEK YOUR SUPPORT.
ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN SUPPORT, SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO.
THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR, IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 25 DASH 0 0 0 9 4, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST OF AN AMENDMENT TO PD 800, SUBJECT TO A DEVELOP REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AMENDED EXHIBIT A 800 A AND 800 B, AND AMENDED CONDITIONS AS READ INTO THE RECORD.
AND TWO, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A PEDESTRIAN SKY BRIDGE SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
COMMISSIONER SERATO FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? UM, JUST BRIEF COMMENTS.
UM, I APPRECIATE THE APPLICANT TEAM.
UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE'VE BEEN ENGAGED FOR PROBABLY 18 MONTHS AS THEY'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THEIR REVIEW PROCESS.
UM, THAT HAD ROBUST REVIEW BY THE URBAN PEER REVIEW PLAN COMMITTEE, WHICH REALLY FORMED THE BASIS OF ALL OF OUR CONVERSATIONS, AS YOU HEARD FROM THE APPLICANT TEAM ADDRESSING THE PUBLIC REALM, UM, IMPROVING CONNECTIONS, UM,
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TO THE TRINITY, WHICH IS AN AMAZING RESOURCE FOR A CITY AND PROVIDING FOR THE PROJECT AND THEIR FLEXIBILITY THAT THEY NEED AS THEY CONTINUE THEIR DEVELOPMENT ARE REALLY THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES.AND I THINK WE HAVE STRUCK A GOOD BALANCE IN GIVING THEM THE FLEXIBILITY THEY NEED WHILE CARING FOR THE CORE, UM, DESIGN PRINCIPLES THAT WERE EMBEDDED IN THE PD.
SO I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION AND I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING THE NEXT STEPS ON THE PROJECT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOU HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS.
HOW DOES THE BIRD PROTECTION WORK? HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT ONE SECOND.
OH, AND YOU CAN ANSWER FROM THE APPLICANT'S SIDE AS WELL, IF YOU'D LIKE, OF WHAT YOU'RE PLANNING.
BUT, UH, FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, UH, THERE, THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC, UH, LEMME NOT GET AHEAD OF MY WORDS HERE, UH, SPECIFIC.
THERE ARE SOME SPECIFIC WOR CONDITIONS IN THERE REGARDING, UH, CLADDING AND OTHER MATERIALS THAT WOULD BE, UH, REQUIRED ALONG ANY GLASS, UH, STRUCTURES AND WHATNOT, WHICH I THINK IS THE CRUX OF THE BIRD PROTECTION.
UH, BEYOND THAT, I KNOW THAT THERE ARE STANDARDS FROM THE US GREEN BUILDING COUNCIL, UH, WHICH WOULD BE, I THINK, A USEFUL SOURCE FOR, UH, REVIEW, UH, AS TO COMPLIANCE WITH THOSE CONDITIONS.
BUT IT, IT'S A, IT'S PRETTY OPEN-ENDED, UM, OUTSIDE OF THAT, BUT THE CLADDING REQUIREMENT IS PRETTY ENFORCEABLE, IN MY OPINION.
AND WHERE IS THAT GONNA BE LOCATED ON THE STRUCTURE? LIKE, EXPLAIN TO ME HOW A BIG GLASS STRUCTURE LIKE THAT, I CAN SEE WHERE IT WOULD CREATE ISSUES FOR BIRDS.
AND SO I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND.
I SAW THAT THERE WERE PROTECTIONS FOR BIRDS IN THE NEW LANGUAGE, BUT I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANYBODY TO EXPLAIN TO ME HOW THAT'S ACTUALLY GONNA WORK.
AND I'M PULLING UP THE CONDITION IN HERE AS WELL, AND I DON'T KNOW IF FROM THE APPLICANT TEAM THEY MIGHT HAVE SOME MORE INFO FROM THEIR ARCHITECT.
SO, UM, VICTORIA MORRIS, UH, THE BIRD PROTECTION STRATEGIES ARE ON THE EXTERIOR FACADES AND INCLUDING THE OCCUPIABLE AREA OVER RIVERFRONT.
SO THOSE WILL BE EXPLORED AS, UM, MR. BATE EXPLAINED THERE ARE, UM, CLADDING AND, UH, SCREENING, UH, CAPABILITIES TO HELP PROTECT THE BIRDS THAT ARE IN THE AREA AND THEIR, THEIR, UM, MIGRATION PATH.
SO WE'LL BE EXPLORING OPPORTUNITIES TO DO THAT ON THE EXTERIOR OF THE BUILDING.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? OKAY, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT.
YEAH, IF I MAY, I, I WANTED TO ASK A QUESTION OF ONE OF THE APPLICANT TEAM.
I BELIEVE IT WAS MR, GO AHEAD.
I JUST WANNA START BY SAYING I, I'M, I'M FULLY SUPPORT THE PROJECT.
UH, I THINK IT'S, IT'S VERY CREATIVE LAND USE, VERY CREATIVE DESIGN, ET CETERA.
SO WHAT MY GOAL IS, IS TO MAKE SURE WHEN YOU ALL LEAVE HERE, YOU'VE GOT THE GREATEST CHANCE OF SUCCESS.
AND SO YOU MADE A COMMENT THAT I THOUGHT WAS, WAS SIGNIFICANT.
IT WAS THAT SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT THAT THIS PD IS FLEXIBLE FOR YOU AS AN APPLICANT.
IS THAT WHAT I HEARD YOU SAY? OKAY.
CAN YOU GUYS HEAR ME NOW? THERE'S, THERE'S TWO TYPES OF FLEXIBILITY THAT WE WERE SEEKING WITH THIS PD.
THE FIRST FLEXIBILITY IS FOR THERMO SPECIFICALLY, WHICH WAS A PROCESS WHERE THEY TOOK THIS CONCEPTUAL DESIGN WORK TO SEE HOW IT COULD INTERACT WITH THE PD AND REALLY CREATE THE SORT OF DESIGN CONSTRAINTS TO BE ABLE TO BE CREATIVE AND FIND LIKE THAT BALANCE BETWEEN SORT OF THEIR NEED TO OPERATE AND SORT OF THE CITY'S NEED TO SORT OF HAVE A PUBLIC REALM ON THE MATTHEW SIDE OF THE EQUATION.
YOU KNOW, I THINK WHAT'S NICE ABOUT THE WAY THE PD ENDED UP IS THAT IF THERM DOESN'T HAPPEN, THERE ARE STATEMENTS IN HERE ABOUT MINIMUM BLOCK LENGTHS, CERTAIN THINGS THAT HAVE TO SORT OF, YOU KNOW, BE DONE TO MAKE SURE YOU KEEP THE INTEGRITY OF THE PD.
BUT THEN IF THERM HAPPENS, WE'VE GOT SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR DESIGN FOR LARGER BLOCK LENGTHS AND ADDITIONAL PUBLIC REALM IMPROVEMENTS TO START ENVISIONING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE CREATE A DEVELOPMENT PLAN THAT IS COMPLIMENTARY TO THERM.
SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, FROM THE MATTHEWS PERSPECTIVE, WE THINK THAT WHERE WE ENDED UP WAS A REALLY GREAT NEGOTIATED RESOLUTION TO GIVE US THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE CREATIVE, BUT ALSO THE CONSTRAINT TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THE PUBLIC INTEREST IN MIND ON THE PUBLIC SPACE.
WELL THAT, THAT'S ENCOURAGING TO ME BECAUSE, UH, I'VE READ A FEW PDS.
WE, WE'VE GOT ONE A COUPLE OF SLOTS DOWN IN THE DOCKET TODAY THAT'S 12 OR SIX, SIX.
AND, AND THEN WE HAD A DIFFICULT CASE TWO WEEKS AGO THAT WAS 12 ON THE PD AND THIS ONE'S 48.
SO I'M GONNA, I THINK YOU TAKE IT AT FACE VALUE THAT YOU THINK IT'S FLEXIBLE AND THAT YOU CAN WORK WITH IT BECAUSE YOU'RE THE ONE THAT'S GONNA
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HAVE TO LIVE WITH IT.WELL, AND A LOT OF THIS HAS TO DO WITH THAT HISTORY OF THAT SITE.
I MEAN, THIS WAS A APARTMENT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT.
THAT'S WHAT THIS PD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE, YOU KNOW, 15 YEARS AGO.
AND SO OVER THE 15 YEARS OF THE LIFE OF THIS PD, IT'S GOTTEN MORE FLEXIBLE.
BUT I THINK WITH THIS NEW REVISION, IT'S GOT ENOUGH WHAT I'LL CALL PUBLIC REALM ORIENTATION TO SORT OF MAKE SURE WE DO IT RIGHT, BUT THE FLEXIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WE CAN DO SOMETHING PRETTY INCREDIBLE FOR THE CITY.
ANYONE ELSE? COMMISSIONER HALL? I HAVE A COUPLE, IF YOU COULD COME BACK DOWN, SIR.
I WANT TO GO BACK TO SOMETHING I I BROUGHT UP THIS MORNING, UH, FOR YOUR REPS IS, UH, MY CONCERN ABOUT FLOOD FLOODING ISSUES.
UH, I ASSUME YOU'VE DONE SOME, UH, STUDIES ON THAT.
YOU WOULDN'T WANT TO BE SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON THIS AND HAVE IT FLOOD OUT, YOU KNOW, BUT WOULD YOU JUST CONFIRM THAT OR TELL US WHAT, HOW YOU VIEW IT? SURE.
SO WE'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ENGAGED WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF WATER UTILITIES FOR PROBABLY FIVE YEARS ON THIS SITE BECAUSE A LOT, IT'S, I DON'T THINK, I THINK THE SITES OUT OF THE FLOODPLAIN, THAT'S NOT THE ISSUE.
IT'S MORE THAT WHEN THE PONDS START TO FILL UP, YOU HAVE EQUALIZATION PIPES TAKING WATER FROM THE NORTH POND TO THE SOUTH POND.
AND THERE, YOU KNOW, THOSE PONDS HAVE TO OPERATE WITHIN THE DALLAS FLOOD CONTROL SYSTEM, WHICH IS THEIR PRIMARY PURPOSE.
BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A GRANT FOR THE WATER COMMONS THAT RELATES TO BEAUTIFYING THAT AND USING IT AS A PUBLIC AMENITY, NOT JUST A FLOOD CONTROL IMPROVEMENT.
SO IN OUR SORT OF DESIGN CONVERSATIONS WITH THERMA, WE HAVE IDENTIFIED A HOST OF DIFFERENT THINGS FROM THE HEIGHT OF THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE FOR THE GARAGE AND MAKING SURE THAT IT DOESN'T CONFLICT WITH A HIGH PRESSURE SEWER LINE TO WORKING WITH THE ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS ON AN EQUALIZATION PIPE.
SO WE HAVE EXTENSIVELY STUDIED THE FLOOD CONTROL ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THE SITE, AND WE THINK THAT WE'RE FINDING SOLUTIONS WITH THE CITY THAT WILL WORK FOR THE CORE, FOR THE CITY AND FOR THERMO.
DID DID YOU CONSIDER ANY, UH, LET'S JUST CALL THEM HISTORICAL FLOOD SCENARIOS, A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD, 500 YEAR FLOOD THOUSAND YEAR FLOOD OF THE TRINITY RIVERS? I, I THINK WE DID, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T SORT OF SPEAK SPECIFICALLY.
I WANNA SAY THIS IS DEFINITELY OUTSIDE THE A HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD PLAIN.
IT MAY BE EVEN HIGHER THAN THAT GIVEN WHERE IT'S LOCATION NEXT TO THE LEVEE.
AND I, I WANNA MAKE CLEAR, I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF THE PROJECT AND I, AND I UNDERSTAND THESE, UH, ISSUES LIKE FLOODING AND THINGS WILL BE REALLY REVIEWED, NOT BY US, BUT BY, IN, IN THE PERMITTING PROCESS.
BUT IT SOMETHING THAT WAS A CONCERN TO ME BECAUSE WE'RE SEEING MORE AND MORE EXTREME WEATHER.
AND LIKE WE'RE SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO TWO IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE NECESSARY, THOSE PONDS SIX AND, AND I THINK IT'S, UH, THREE THAT ARE NECESSARY FOR THAT ENTIRE FLOOD CONTROL SYSTEM TO WORK ALONG THE OLD MEANDER OF THE TRINITY RIVER.
AND THAT HAS BEEN TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH THIS PD AS WELL AS WITH THE CURRENT DESIGN.
AND I HAVE A QUESTION FOR MS. KEDRON, IF I MAY.
AND LET'S DO, TRY TO KEEP IT TO STUFF WITH THAT OUR PURVIEW IF THERE'S, YOU KNOW, PERMITTING OR ENGINEERING STUFF THAT'S DOWNSTREAM FROM US.
SO
IT'S, UH, JUST MY SCIENTIFIC CURIOSITY.
THEY'VE ANNOUNCED OTHER PROJECTS, BUT WE'RE HOPEFUL THAT WE CAN GET THEM, UH, SHOVELS IN THE GROUND AND THE PROJECT BUILT BEFORE, SAY WASHINGTON DC MM-HMM
BUT YOU, UH, THE WORD ON THE STREET IS YOU'VE ACTUALLY HAD THE GOOD FORTUNE TO DO A FIELD TRIP, TO VISIT A THERMO FACILITY.
UH, IN, UH, IN, UH, BUCA REST, I BELIEVE WE, WE HAVE COMMISSIONER.
IT'S A VERY, UH, IMPRESSIVE LOCATION.
UM, THE SLIDES DON'T DO IT JUSTICE.
UH, YOU KNOW, EVEN I, WHEN I WENT THERE, AT FIRST I WAS LIKE, I KINDA SCRATCHING MY HEAD, UH, AND WHEN WE LANDED, EVERYBODY SAID, YOU HAVE TO GO THERE FIRST.
AND I SAID, WELL, YOU KNOW, I JUST GOT OFF OF A LONG FLIGHT.
UH, I WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO BRING, UM, MS. MORRIS WITH ME AS WELL.
UM, AND THEY SAID, NO, NO, NO, YOU HAVE TO COME TO THERMO FIRST BECAUSE IT'S VERY REJUVENATING AND YOU KNOW, IT REALLY GOES TO YOUR WELLNESS.
AND I GOTTA TELL YOU, IT WAS SUCH AN AMAZING EXPERIENCE.
THEY HAVE INDOOR AREAS THAT ARE PRIMARILY FOR CHILDREN.
THEY HAVE OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MUCH MORE REFLECTIVE IN NATURE AND THEN OTHER AREAS THAT ARE MORE REACT, UH, YOU KNOW, ACTION ORIENTED.
UM, SO IT REALLY ALLOWS KIND OF, FOR A MULTI-GENERATIONAL EXPERIENCE.
SO IT WAS, IT WAS QUITE THE PLACE.
SO I I I'M GOING TO ASSUME YOU CAME AWAY FROM THAT EXPERIENCE THINKING THIS WOULD BE A VERY POSITIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY
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OF DALLAS.ALRIGHT, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COMMISSIONER SERATO? YEAH, I JUST WANTED TO, UM, BRING UP THE POINT THAT, UM, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONER BROUGHT UP ABOUT, UM, BIRD SAFETY, UM, WITH THE FACILITY.
UM, I KNOW I'M SUPPOSED TO BE STAYING ON TOPIC WITH, UM, YOU KNOW, SPECIFIC ZONING THINGS, BUT I, I WOULD JUST ENCOURAGE, UM, IF THIS WAS TO MOVE FORWARD AND THE DEVELOPER WERE TO, UM, CREATE THIS TO ENCOURAGE THEM TO, UH, PARTNER WITH THE TRINITY, TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON CENTER THAT, YOU KNOW, THE NATIONAL AUDUBON SOCIETY HAS A FIVE YEAR FIGHT PLAN.
'CAUSE WE'RE, WE'RE IN THE PLANE OF A, A MAJOR MIGRATION FOR BIRDS THAT COME THROUGH FROM NORTH AMERICA ALL THE WAY TO THE TIP OF SOUTH AMERICA.
THOUSANDS OF BIRDS FLY THROUGH TEXAS.
SO IT'S, UM, I THINK IT, IT'S PRETTY ESSENTIAL FOR, FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU GUYS TO CONSIDER, UM, HOW YOU CAN, YOU KNOW, REMEDY THAT, UH, WITH THE AUDUBON CENTER HERE IN DALLAS.
I THINK IT'S A GREAT LOCAL RESOURCE, WHICH AS YOU CAN TELL, OUR CLIENTS ARE HERE.
UH, THAT WAS A QUESTION THAT I ASKED, SPECIFICALLY ASKED WHEN WE WERE IN ROMANIA AS WELL.
AND IT'S PART OF THEIR ETHOS WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT THEY DO AS FAR AS EVEN WATER RECYCLING, UH, THEIR LANDSCAPE AND THEIR INTERNAL HABITATS AS WELL.
THAT WAS ONE OF THE QUESTIONS I RAISED.
AND WHEN WE DID THE SITE TOUR, THAT WAS SOMETHING I ASKED AND THAT IS SOMETHING THEY DO STUDY SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT.
UH, AND NOW THANKS TO THE COMMENTS THAT IS ALSO INCLUDED IN THE PD AS WELL.
UH, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION COMMISSIONERS? WE HAVE A VERY, UH, DETAILED MOTION OR DETAILED AMENDED P UH, PD CONDITIONS, UM, AND A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SECONDED BY COMMISSIONER SERATO.
[17. 26-2670A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2576 for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a bar, lounge, or tavern and commercial amusement (inside) limited to a dance hall, on property zoned Planned Development District No. 619 with H/48 Harwood Historic District Overlay, on the southwest corner of N. Harwood Street and Pacific Avenue, [AKA 1930 Pacific Avenue]. Staff Recommendation: Approval for a ten-year period, subject to amended conditions. Representative: Deborah Kelley-Hill / Club Vivo U/A From: July 23, 2026. Planner: Liliana Garza Council District: 14 Z-26-000118]
THANK YOU.ITEM 17 IS KZ DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 18.
AN APPLICATION FOR AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT 25 76 FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT, LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN AND COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE.
LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ZONE PENDULUM DISTRICT NUMBER SIX 19 WITH, UM, HISTORIC 48 HISTORIC HARWOOD HISTORIC DISTRICT OVERLAY ON THE SO CORNER OF NORTH HARWOOD STREET AND PACIFIC AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS 1930 PACIFIC AVENUE.
STAR RECOMME CONDITION IS APPROVAL FOR A 10 YEAR PERIOD SUBJECT TO AMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 17? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, DO YOU HAVE A MOTION OR COMMISSIONER KINGSTON? DO YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 1 8.
I MOVE THAT WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN, UH, AND MOVE THIS TO THE SEPTEMBER 3RD DOCKET.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOU'RE SECOND COMMISSIONER HAMPTON.
[18. 26-2671A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a bar, lounge, or tavern on property zoned Planned Development No. 269 Tract A, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the northeast corner of Elm Street and N. Malcolm X Boulevard, [AKA 2901 Elm Street]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Off the Cuff / Ross Hines Representative: Audra Buckley / Permitted Development LLC Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 2 Z-26-000152]
18.ITEM 18 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 2 69 TRACK A, THE DEEP, UH, LM NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT.
UH, LOCATED ON THE NORTH, UH, EAST, UH, CORNER OF ELM STREET AND NORTH, UH, MALCOLM X BOULEVARD, ALSO KNOWN AS 29 0 1 ELM STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS, UH, APPRO APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SIDELINE AND THE STAFF, UH, UH, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.
IS THERE ANYONE HERE ON ITEM NUMBER 18? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, YOUR MOTION? THANK YOU MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 5 2.
I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND APPLICANT'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HAMPTON FOR YOUR MOTION.
VICE CHAIR HERBERT FOR YOUR SECOND.
THE MOTION? IS THERE A NO? OH, AYE.
UM, THE MOTION CARRIES ITEM 19,
[19. 26-2672A An application for a new subdistrict for O-2 Subdistrict uses, and standards on property zoned O-2 Subdistrict within Planned Development No. 193, the Oak Lawn Special Purpose District, on the west corner of Carlisle Street and Bowen Street, [AKA 3109 Carlisle Street]. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a development plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Ken Reese / 3109 Carlisle LP Representative: Suzan Kedron / Jackson Walker, LLP Planner: Liliana Garza Council District: 14 Z-26-000140]
ITEM 19 IS CASE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 4 0.AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR O2 SUBDISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ZONE O2 SUBDISTRICT WITHIN PD 1 93, THE OAK LAW SPECIAL PURPOSE HISTORY ON THE WEST CORNER OF CARLY STREET AND BOWEN STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS 31 0 9 CARLY STREET.
STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVED
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SUBJECT TO DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND STATUS RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS.GOOD AFTERNOON AGAIN, SUZANNE KEDRON.
ANOTHER, UH, CASE THAT I'M EXCITED ABOUT 'CAUSE IT'S IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AS WELL.
IT'S ON THE CORNER OF, UH, BOWEN AND CARLISLE.
UH, THIS PROJECT WILL BE BROUGHT TO YOU BY HILLWOOD, WHO'S HERE IN THE AUDIENCE TODAY.
AND BOCA THE ARCHITECTURAL FIRM DESIGNING THE PROJECT.
IT'S A SMALL, UM, BOUTIQUE OFFICE, ABOUT EIGHT LEVELS WITH SIX LEVELS BELOW GRADE PARKING AND WE'RE EXCITED TO BE HERE TODAY.
THANK YOU MS. KATHERINE, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THIS ITEM? ANYONE OPPOSED? ALRIGHT.
COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOUR MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 4 0.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE, UH, SUBJECT TO A DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND GO WITH THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST ON PARKING INSTEAD OF STAFF CONDITIONS.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION FOR MR. KINGSTON, VICE CHAIR HERBERT, FOR YOUR SECOND.
ANY DISCUSSION? I HAVE A FEW THINGS TO SAY.
UM, PRIMARILY I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE APPLICANT.
UM, THIS APPLICANT HAS A HISTORY OF BEING, UM, VERY PROTECTIVE AND RESPONSIVE TO THE KATY TRAIL AND THE, UM, ECOLOGICAL IMPACT THAT THEIR BUILDINGS CREATE IN RELATION TO THE TRAIL AND THE, UM, CREEK AND OTHER THINGS THAT OPERATE IN THAT PART OF THE CITY.
AND, UM, THIS PROJECT CONTINUES THAT, UH, HISTORY BY BEING VERY SENSITIVE TO THE TRAIL AND THE EXISTING, UM, NATURAL ELEMENTS THAT EXIST ON THE SITE.
I ALSO, UM, WANNA THANK THE APPLICANT FOR CREATING A DESIGN THAT ADDRESSES A COUPLE OF THE THINGS THAT ARE VERY IMPORTANT IN THIS COMMUNITY.
ONE IS BELOW GRADE PARKING AND TWO IS BURYING THE POWER LINES.
THIS PARTICULAR SITE WAS, UH, MORE DIFFICULT THAN SOME TO BURY THE POWER LINES BECAUSE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES HAD DEVELOPED AND PUT ALL THEIR POWER INFRASTRUCTURE ON THIS SITE, WHICH LEFT THIS SITE IS SORT OF THE LAST BAND STANDING IN ORDER TO DO THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT IT WAS A TRICKY, UM, AND EXPENSIVE PROPOSITION TO DO THAT, BUT IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS VERY IMPORTANT TO THE OAK LAWN COMMITTEE AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE AROUND HERE, UH, GOING TO MAKE THIS AREA MORE WALKABLE AND MORE USEFUL FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE, ARE USING THE SPACE WITH SOMETHING OTHER THAN A CAR.
UM, WHETHER THAT BE A SCOOTER, A BICYCLE, A WHEELCHAIR, WHATEVER.
UH, SO I JUST WANTED TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR THOSE THOUGHTFUL CONSIDERATIONS IN THIS PLAN.
ALRIGHT, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSON.
ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE.
[SUBDIVISION DOCKET - Consent Items]
OUR SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET, UM, IN CONNECTION WITH THAT, WE HAVE A ANNOUNCEMENT FROM MR. BIR.GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, CHAIR RUBEN.
UH, GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS.
I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE TO YOU MY NEW, UH, SENIOR PLANNER WITH SUBDIVISION, MR. WILLIAM CASTELLO.
ALEX BEEN WITH THE CITY FOR 12 YEARS, UH, WHICH FOUR YEARS OF IT.
HE'S BEEN AS A ZONING STAFF WITH DEVELOPMENT SERVICES AND HE'S JUST FINISHING HIS SECOND MONTH WITH SUBDIVISION.
I AM HAPPY TO HAVE HIM ON MY TEAM.
THE CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF TWO ITEMS TODAY.
ITEM 20 PLAT DASH TWO SIX DASH 0 1 94 AND ITEM 21 PLAT DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 9 5.
ALL CASES THAT HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR A HEARING AT THIS TIME AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET AS WERE AMENDED AT THE HEARING.
THERE'S NO ONE HERE IN THE ROOM LEFT TO, UM, SPEAK FOR THE PUBLIC.
SO WE WILL GO TO COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT DOCKET ITEMS 20 AND 21.
I MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET.
COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR A MOTION.
COMMISSIONER HOUSE HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND.
IT IS 2:34 PM AND THIS CITY PLAN COMMISSION MEETING IS ADJOURNED.