Aug 24, 2026 Housing and Homelessness Solutions

[Housing and Homelessness Solutions on August 24, 2026.]

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GOOD MORNING. TODAY IS AUGUST 24TH. THE TIME IS 908.

I CALL TO ORDER THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

COUNCILMEMBER MORENO, I THINK YOU ASKED FOR A MOMENT OF PRIVILEGE.

THANK YOU CHAIR. AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S BEEN SEVERAL.

YESTERDAY WE HAD A RECORD BREAKING I BELIEVE 109 WHERE DALLAS HIT.

AND THIS PAST WEEK, WE'VE LOST AT LEAST TWO UNSHELTERED INDIVIDUALS DUE TO THE HEAT.

AND SO WE CAN JUST TAKE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS.

THANK YOU AND THANK YOU FOR THOSE COMPASSIONATE WORDS.

I WILL SAY, I BELIEVE BOTH THOSE INDIVIDUALS WERE IN YOUR DISTRICT.

IS THAT CORRECT? YEAH. AND SO WHAT IT DOESN'T COUNT ARE THE PEOPLE THAT WE KNOW THAT ARE AROUND THE CITY THAT MAY ALSO HAVE EXPERIENCE, EITHER NEGATIVE CONSEQUENCES OR EVEN DEATH THAT ARE UNDETERMINED WHAT THE CAUSE IS.

AND THAT IS OFTEN THE CASE WHEN DFR FINDS SOMEBODY UNACCOMPANIED.

SO WITH THAT OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES FROM THE MAY 26TH HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.

IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE. MOTION FOR APPROVAL.

IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION OR CORRECTIONS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, PLEASE SAY AYE.

OPPOSED. MOTION CARRIES UNANIMOUSLY. THANK YOU.

WELL, WE ACTUALLY ONLY HAVE ONE ITEM BEING BRIEF, BUT IT'S BIG AND LONG AND IMPORTANT.

AND SO WITH THAT, THOR, WHY DON'T YOU TAKE IT AWAY? THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR MENDELSOHN COUNCIL MEMBERS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME THIS MORNING. I'M THOR ERICKSON, DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. EXCUSE ME.

DALLAS IS AT A PIVOTAL, PIVOTAL MOMENT. OUR CITY IS FACING INTERCONNECTED CHALLENGES ACROSS HOUSING AFFORDABILITY, HOUSING STABILITY AND HOMELESSNESS. OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET AND THOSE CHALLENGES ARE IMPACTING FAMILIES, NEIGHBORHOODS, AND LONG TERM COMMUNITY WELL-BEING.

OVER THE PAST YEAR, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER TO BRING WHAT USED TO BE SEPARATE SYSTEMS OF HOUSING PRODUCTION, PRESERVATION, HOMELESS RESPONSE, FAIR HOUSING, AND COMMUNITY SERVICES INTO ONE COORDINATED APPROACH.

DALLAS HOME IS THAT FRAMEWORK THAT TIES TOGETHER THESE PIECES.

IT'S BUILT SIMPLY BUT URGENT REALITY. OUR RESIDENTS NEED STABILITY, OUR NEIGHBORHOODS NEED OPPORTUNITY, AND OUR CITY NEEDS A UNIFIED STRATEGY TO DELIVER ON BOTH.

TODAY'S DISCUSSION IS AN UPDATE ON THE POLICY DEVELOPMENT OF DALLAS HOME.

I'LL TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR JAMES ARMSTRONG, WHO WILL WALK US THROUGH THIS PRESENTATION.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. GOOD MORNING, CHAIR AND COMMITTEE MEMBERS.

JAMES ARMSTRONG, DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS MORNING WE'LL BE PROVIDING AN UPDATE ON DALLAS HOME, OUR CITY'S HOUSING, OUR CITY'S DEVELOPING HOUSING POLICY.

WE'LL BRIEFLY REVIEW OUR CITY'S HOUSING NEEDS, DISCUSS THE PROCESS FOR POLICY DEVELOPMENT, AND OFFER A PROPOSED FRAMEWORK AND STRATEGIES, AND THEN PRESENT WHAT WE FEEL IS OUR NORTH STAR.

NEXT SLIDE. SO AS THOR, THE DIRECTOR. DIRECTOR ERICKSON JUST MENTIONED, AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT NOW BRINGS TOGETHER HOUSING PROGRAMS, HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE AND COMMUNITY SERVICES UNDER A SINGLE COORDINATED OFFICE.

OUR PREVIOUS POLICIES DON'T REFLECT DIDN'T REFLECT THIS EXPANDED SCOPE.

THEY DIDN'T INTEGRATE THE FULL SET OF PROGRAMS OR THE CROSS-DEPARTMENTAL WORK REQUIRED TO MAKE OUR HOUSING SYSTEM FUNCTIONALLY SMOOTH.

DALLAS HOME ESTABLISH A UNIFIED POLICY DIRECTION ACROSS PRODUCTION, PRESERVATION, HOUSING STABILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD INVESTMENTS, FAIR HOUSING, HOMELESS RESPONSE.

IT RESPONDS TO CURRENT HOUSING CONDITIONS AND SETS THE FOUNDATION FOR MORE COORDINATED ACTION WITHIN OUR OFFICE, INCLUDING BETTER ALIGNMENT OF THE INVESTMENTS OUR OFFICE MAKES AND THE CITY LED EFFORT THAT SHAPE HOUSING OUTCOMES SUCH AS INFRASTRUCTURE PLANNING, ZONING TOOLS AND OTHER CAPITAL PROGRAMS. NEXT SLIDE.

SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT DALLAS IS HOME BUILDS UPON PREVIOUS POLICIES.

THIS TIMELINE ON THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE EVOLUTION OF OUR CITY'S HOUSING POLICY AND HOW EACH POLICY PLAY HAS CONTRIBUTED TO OUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT MAKES A GOOD POLICY FOR A CITY. DALLAS IS HOME.

IT REALLY EMBODIES EACH OF THESE BODIES OF WORK AND DELIVERS A HOUSING POLICY TODAY THAT IS RESPONSIVE TO MARKET CONDITIONS,

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THE MISSION OF DALLAS HOME IS TO PREVENT, IS TO PRESENT A HOUSING POLICY THAT IS HOLISTIC IN ITS UNDERSTANDING, YET TARGETED IN ITS IMPLEMENTATION, THOUGHTFUL AND CONSIDERATE OF THE DIVERSITY OF HOUSING NEEDS AND BOLD ENOUGH TO REQUIRE COLLABORATION.

OUR GOAL IS TO ENSURE THAT DALLAS CAN BE HOME TO ALL WHO DESIRE TO RESIDE IN OUR CITY.

NEXT SLIDE. BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS, DALLAS IS NOT HOME FOR MOST.

AND THAT'S WHAT THESE STATS, STATS TALK ABOUT.

THESE STATS REALLY SPEAK TO THE URGENCY OF OUR HOUSING SITUATION, BUT THEY ALSO REVEAL SOMETHING DEEPER.

DALLAS DOES NOT SIMPLY HAVE A HOUSING SHORTAGE.

WE HAVE A HOUSING STABILITY CRISIS, AND WHEN PEOPLE CANNOT AFFORD TO REMAIN IN THEIR HOMES, THE CONSEQUENCES EXTEND FAR BEYOND HOUSING. NEXT SLIDE.

AS WE KNOW, HOUSING IS THE FOUNDATION ON WHICH SO MANY OTHER OUTCOMES DEPEND ON.

WHEN HOUSING IS UNSTABLE OR UNAFFORDABLE, FAMILIES ARE MORE VULNERABLE TO DISPLACEMENT, CHILDREN STRUGGLE IN SCHOOL, HEALTH OUTCOMES DECLINE, AND HOMELESSNESS BECOMES MORE LIKELY.

THIS IS WHY HOUSING CANNOT BE VIEWED AS AN ISOLATED ISSUE.

IT IS CENTRAL TO THE OVERALL WELL-BEING AND FUTURE OF OUR CITY.

SO THE QUESTION TODAY BEFORE US IS NOT WHETHER WE HAVE A HOUSING AFFORDABILITY PROBLEM.

THE DATA IS CLEAR. THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OUR RESPONSE IS BOLD ENOUGH, COORDINATED ENOUGH, AND URGENT ENOUGH TO MEET THE SCALE OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE FACE TODAY.

NEXT SLIDE. SO FOR THE REMAINDER OF OUR TIME, WE'LL TALK THROUGH THE DEVELOPMENT OF DALLAS HOME.

I WANT TO INFORM YOU ON WHERE WE ARE IN THE PROCESS AND WHAT WE'VE DONE SINCE WE LAST INTRODUCED DALLAS HOME, PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF OUR FEEDBACK AND SELECTED STRATEGIES, AND DISCUSS NEXT STEPS, AND THEN OPEN THE CONVERSATION UP FOR FEEDBACK.

NEXT SLIDE. SO AS YOU REMEMBER, IN MAY, WE BEFORE COUNCIL RECESS, WE PRESENTED THE CONCEPT OF DALLAS HOME AND BEGIN TARGETED ENGAGEMENT SOON AFTER. OVERALL, THE SUMMER. OVER THE SUMMER, WE MET WITH 11 OUT OF THE 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS, MULTIPLE CITY DEPARTMENTS, COMMUNITY GROUPS, STAKEHOLDERS AND THE CHAIRS OF EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.

THIS MONTH, WE'LL CONTINUE OUR ENGAGEMENT AND FEEDBACK GATHERING WHILE FOCUS ON PROGRAM REFINEMENT.

NEXT SLIDE. OUR CONVERSATION THROUGHOUT ENGAGEMENT HAS BEEN GROUNDED BY THESE FIVE QUESTIONS.

WHAT HOUSING AND HOMELESS ISSUES IS YOUR DISTRICT FACING? WHAT SHOULD THE CITY'S ROLE IN HOMELESSNESS BE? HOMELESSNESS BE FROM A HOUSING POINT OF VIEW? IS THERE A CERTAIN. IS THERE CERTAIN TYPES OF HOUSING THAT YOUR DISTRICT NEEDS OR HAS TOO LITTLE OF TOO MUCH OF.

ARE THERE ANY SPECIFIC AREAS YOU KNOW, IF IN YOUR DISTRICT WITH GREATEST.

WITH THE GREATEST HOUSING NEED. AND DO YOU WANT TO HAVE A COMMUNITY MEETING TO GET FEEDBACK ON THESE TOPICS? SO THESE CONVERSATIONS WERE WERE GROUNDED IN THESE FIVE QUESTIONS.

THESE PRIORITIES DO MORE THAN EXPRESS THE NEED.

THEY REALLY DO HELP US SHAPE OUR RESPONSE. THEY HELP US MOVE BEYOND A ONE SIZE FITS ALL APPROACH AND BEGIN DEVELOPING STRATEGIES THAT ARE RESPONSIVE TO THE SPECIFIC CHALLENGES, OPPORTUNITIES AND PRIORITIES OF OUR COMMUNITY.

THEY PROVIDE A FRAMEWORK FOR HOW WE THINK ABOUT CHALLENGES, ALIGN OUR RESOURCES, AND DEVELOP STRATEGIES THAT MOVE US FROM IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM TO DELIVERING MEANINGFUL SOLUTIONS. NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS SLIDE, I WANT TO JUST SPEND A FEW MINUTES ON BECAUSE THIS IS THE PROPOSED FRAMEWORK.

THIS IS THE STRATEGY THAT WE INTEND TO USE TO MEET THE BOLD GOAL THAT WE HAVE FOR THIS HOUSING PLAN.

AS AN OFFICE, OUR GOAL IS TO LISTEN AND TO UNDERSTAND THE NEED, THEN TAKE ON THE RESPONSIBILITY TO TRANSLATE WHAT WE HEAR INTO STRATEGY FOR ACTION.

AND I LIKE TO SPEND A COUPLE OF MINUTES ON THIS SLIDE BECAUSE IT REPRESENTS THE CORE OF OUR APPROACH TO INCREASING HOUSING OPPORTUNITY.

WE BELIEVE THAT THE COMPLEXITY OF OUR CITY'S HOUSING CONDITIONS REQUIRE A DIVERSITY OF STRATEGY.

THERE IS NOT A SINGLE SOLUTION THAT CAN DELIVER THAT CAN ADDRESS THE HOUSING CHALLENGES FACING DALLAS.

WE UNDERSTAND THAT PRODUCTION WILL NOT AND SHOULD NOT LOOK THE SAME IN EVERY QUADRANT OF OUR CITY.

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WE ALSO RECOGNIZE THAT PRESERVATION IS JUST AS IMPORTANT AS PRODUCTION.

BUILDING NEW HOUSING DOES NOT SOLVE THE PROBLEM.

IF WE CONTINUE TO LOSE AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND LONG TERM RESIDENTS, WE ALREADY HAVE.

DATA MUST INFORM HOW WE DEVELOP AND MAXIMIZE OUR INVESTMENTS, HELPING US UNDERSTAND WHERE THE GREATEST NEEDS EXIST, WHERE RESOURCES CAN HAVE THE GREATEST IMPACT, AND HOW WE CAN MAKE MORE STRATEGIC DECISIONS.

AND ULTIMATELY, WE UNDERSTAND THAT HOUSING STABILITY REQUIRES A MULTIFACETED APPROACH.

IT'S NOT ENOUGH TO SIMPLY BUILD UNITS. WE MUST PRESERVE HOMES.

WE MUST PREVENT DISPLACEMENT. WE MUST STRENGTHEN HOUSING STABILITY, ENSURE FAIR ACCESS, ALIGN INFRASTRUCTURE, ENGAGE COMMUNITIES IN SHAPING THE SOLUTION THAT AFFECTS THEM.

THE CORE OF OUR APPROACH IS VERY SIMPLE. ONE CITY WITH DIVERSE COMMUNITIES REQUIRES ONE COORDINATED VISION, BUT MULTIPLE STRATEGIES TO ACHIEVE IT. AND THIS IS WHERE I WANT TO JUST HANG OUR HAT ON, BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE PRESENTING TODAY IS A STRATEGY, A CITYWIDE STRATEGY. AND OUTSIDE OF THE FEEDBACK THAT YOU GAVE, YOU MAY BE ASKING, WELL, WHERE IS MY PARTICULAR STRATEGY FOR MY DISTRICT? AND WE KNOW THAT WE CAN POUR ALL OF OUR RESOURCES INTO ONE DISTRICT AND STILL NOT MOVE THE NEEDLE.

SO WHAT IS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TODAY IS A STRATEGY AND THE STRATEGY AFTER YOUR FEEDBACK WILL TRANSLATE INTO AN ACTION PLAN THAT WE WILL COME BACK AND PRESENT BEFORE YOU.

NEXT SLIDE. SO THIS MORNING WE WANT TO MAKE A BOLD GOAL BY 2030.

WE HAVE ONE BOLD NORTH STAR, 55000 DALLAS HOUSEHOLDS WITH GREATER HOUSING STABILITY.

THIS IS THE OUTCOME. WE ARE ORGANIZING OUR STRATEGIES, INVESTMENTS, PARTNERSHIPS AND ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND.

AND WE BELIEVE THE PROPOSED STRATEGIES ARE HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THERE.

THESE INDIVIDUAL GOALS FOR EACH OF THESE STRATEGIES ARE JUST AS BOLD.

AND WE REALIZE THAT WE CAN'T ACHIEVE THEM OPERATING IN SILOS OR WITH OUR STANDARD PROGRAMING.

IT WILL REQUIRE PARTNERSHIP, INNOVATION, SPECIAL INITIATIVES, CROSS-DEPARTMENT COLLABORATION, AND LEANING ON OUR HOUSING ECOSYSTEM AND STAKEHOLDERS.

THIS ISN'T JUST A GOAL FOR OHC, IT'S A GOAL FOR OUR CITY AND WE NEVER.

WE NEED EVERYONE PUSHING IN THE SAME DIRECTION.

NEXT SLIDE. SO PART OF OUR ENGAGEMENT ALSO WAS PRESENTING DALLAS HOME TO A LOT OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS INTERNALLY.

SO WE UNDERSTAND THAT COLLABORATION STARTS INTERNALLY WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.

AND AS STATED BEFORE, WE'VE BEEN MEETING WITH THESE DEPARTMENTS TO REALLY UNDERSTAND HOW THEIR BODIES OF WORK INTERSECT WITH THE PROPOSED POLICY.

NEXT SLIDE. THESE MEETINGS HAVE BEEN CENTERED AROUND INTEGRATION THAT LEADS TO IMPLEMENTATION.

AND HERE IS OUR STRATEGY FOR DOING SO. SHARED AGENDAS TALKING ABOUT OUR SHARED AGENDAS.

WHAT ARE THOSE? WHAT ARE THOSE COMMITMENTS THAT WE CAN NAME? WHAT ARE THOSE THINGS THAT REQUIRE PARTNER DELIVERY.

HOW DO WE BRING ABOUT SHARED MEASUREMENTS, AND HOW DO WE EACH HOLD EACH OTHER ACCOUNTABLE TO THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE MADE? NEXT SLIDE. THIS MOBILIZATION OF OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS AND PUBLIC, PRIVATE, NONPROFIT, PHILANTHROPIC AND FAITH BASED, FAITH BASED PARTNERS TO EXPAND HOUSING STABILITY AND SUPPORTIVE SERVICES IS HOW DALLAS IS HOME BUILDS ON PRIOR WORK AND ADVANCES IT. NEXT SLIDE. SO HERE ARE OUR NEXT STEPS.

WE'VE DONE ENGAGEMENT AND THAT WILL CONTINUE.

WE'RE PRESENTING CURRENTLY THE STRATEGY FOR FEEDBACK.

AND WE UNDERSTAND AS I STATED THAT AGAIN, YOUR PRIORITY PRIORITIES ARE CRITICAL TO US DEVELOPING THIS, THIS FRAMEWORK AND THIS POLICY. AND SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS AT THIS TIME.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH. BEFORE WE GO AND DO THE QUESTIONS, I JUST HAVE ONE THING I WOULD LIKE TO CLARIFY, IF YOU CAN SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE IS WHAT EXACTLY WILL YOU BE MEASURING AND WHAT IS THE BASELINE TODAY THAT YOU'LL MEASURE IT AGAINST? SO WE, WE HAVE LOOKED AT WHAT ARE THOSE STARTING WITH OUR CONTRACTS, WE'VE LOOKED AT, WHAT ARE THOSE PERFORMANCE METRICS THAT,

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AND TODAY THOSE GOALS ARE NOT PRESENTED. BUT WE DO INTEND TO BRING THOSE BACK TO THE COMMITTEE SO THAT WE CAN GET FEEDBACK FROM YOU ALL ON THOSE GOALS. I'LL LET HIM ADD IN. YEAH.

AND SPECIFICALLY, IT'S LOOKING AT WHAT OUR PARTNERS ARE DOING, COUNTING EVERY UNIT.

THE PFC, HSC DOES. LOOKING AT THE UNITS THAT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRODUCES.

LOOKING AT UNITS IN OUR MDB PROGRAM CALLING AND HAVING RELATIONSHIPS WITH EVERY DEVELOPER WHO IS PRESERVING OR PRODUCING UNITS THAT ARE AFFORDABLE OR ATTAINABLE TO PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT ARE NOT SEEKING CITY INCENTIVES.

AND THEN ON THE SERVICES SIDE, IT'S ABOUT HOW MANY UNITS GOT RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND WERE STABLE FOR A CERTAIN DURATION, OR HOW MANY PEOPLE WERE DIVERTED AND GOT BACK INTO THEIR HOUSEHOLDS.

AND SO IT'S A COMBINATION OF EVERYTHING ACROSS ON HOW WE START TO LOOK AT HOUSING STABILITY.

DID WE KEEP SOMEONE HOUSED? DO WE GET SOMEONE REHOUSED? ARE WE HELPING GET PEOPLE INTO SHELTERS, OUT OF SHELTERS AND BACK INTO PERMANENT HOUSING IS ALL PART OF THE PROGRAM.

AND SO OUR METRICS ALL ALIGN AROUND THOSE DIFFERENT ELEMENTS OF THE SPECTRUM OF WORK THAT WE FOCUS ON.

AND ARE YOU ABLE TO BRING THAT NEXT MONTH? YEAH, WE HAVE AN OUTLINE OF EVERYTHING THAT WE'RE TRACKING ACROSS ALL OF OUR PROGRAMS AND HOW IT ALL OUTLINES. AND THEN I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THAT WITHOUT THAT, THIS IS JUST A REALLY NICE IDEA.

I MEAN, LITERALLY, IT'S NOT A PLAN UNLESS YOU CAN TELL US THIS IS THE FRAMEWORK OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO REPORT IT.

AND HERE'S WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY. AND THEN YOU CAN SHOW US HOW THAT REPORTING WILL MOVE FORWARD.

YOU NEED TO FORWARD THINK OF HOW WE KNOW IF THIS HAS BEEN SUCCESSFUL OR MET OUR GOALS.

AND, AND I JUST WANTED TO SET THAT BEFORE PEOPLE ARE ABLE TO ASK QUESTIONS AND GIVE INPUT, WHICH I DEFINITELY WANT THEM TO DO. AND I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT 55000 UNITS, THOSE ARE BOTH ONES WHERE THE CITIES HAD INTERACTION AND WERE THERE PRIVATELY BEING DEVELOPED. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. IT'S A COMBINATION OF OF EVERYTHING.

AND SLIDE 11 LAYS OUT A LOT OF OUR GOALS ACROSS EACH PILLAR IN TERMS OF LIKE FOR, YOU KNOW, SO IT STARTS TO HAVE SOME OF THE BIGGER GOALS. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING TOO. AND WE CAN SHOW YOU WHAT I'M NOT AT ALL LOOKING FOR SOMETHING LIKE THAT NEXT MONTH. I MEAN, YOU CAN INCLUDE THAT SLIDE OF COURSE. BUT I WANT TO SEE WHAT IS IT WE'RE GOING TO BE MEASURING WHERE WE'RE AT TODAY.

AND HOW YOU'RE GOING TO SHOW US WHAT IT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE FIRST QUARTER.

UNDERSTOOD. LIKE FOR REAL, WE'RE DOING IT OR WE'RE NOT.

YEAH. AND TO BE FAIR, I MEAN, A LOT OF THIS IS GOING TO RELY ON PARTNERSHIPS AND DEVELOPMENT.

AND SO OUR GOAL HERE STARTS TO LOOK AT IT WAS CALCULATED BY LOOKING AT OUR UNIT SHORTAGE, SOME OF OUR WORK IN THE PIPELINE, AND TO BE MORE AMBITIOUS TO GET AHEAD OF SOME OF THE HOUSING STABILITY ISSUES THAT WE'RE FACING.

AND SO WE'LL PRESENT TO YOU A BASELINE OF WHERE WE ARE.

AND THEN HOW DO WE ACHIEVE IT REQUIRES MULTIPLE DIFFERENT STRATEGIES TO COME TOGETHER.

WE CAN'T ACHIEVE IT WITH OUR OUR RESOURCES ONLY.

AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PART OF THE CONVERSATION. OKAY.

SO VICE CHAIR, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? SURE.

AND TO PIGGYBACK ON WHAT CHAIR HAS SAID, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE OVERARCHING GOAL OF WHAT YOU SAID WE NEEDED ON ONE OF THE PAGES, YOU SAID WE NEEDED PAGE 11.

YOU SAID PARTNERS. IF THIS REQUIRED PARTNERSHIP NOT WORKING IN SILOS, WHAT DEPART? WHAT OTHER DEPARTMENTS DO YOU FEEL YOU'RE GOING TO NEED IN ORDER TO BRING BACK AN OVERARCHING STRATEGY AND NOT JUST A PLAN? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. IF YOU LOOK ON PAGE 12 IT LAYS OUT DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE ALREADY MET WITH.

IT INCLUDES DEPARTMENTS LIKE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHICH IS MORE OF A NATURAL PARTNERSHIP.

BUT EVEN DEPARTMENTS LIKE CODE COMPLIANCE AND DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS.

SO THESE ARE ALL DEPARTMENTS THAT WE'VE MET WITH.

WE'VE IDENTIFIED WHAT THE CONNECTIONS ARE AND WHAT ARE THOSE PILLARS THAT THEY SUPPORT.

ONE OF THE THINGS I THANK YOU FOR THAT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I RECOGNIZED WHEN I WENT THROUGH THIS, THIS PRESENTATION, I MUST ADMIT IT WAS KIND OF LATE LAST NIGHT.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY A STRATEGY. YOU HAVE AN OVERARCHING STRATEGY FOR THE WHOLE CITY, BUT IN ORDER TO REACH THAT GOAL, WE WILL NEED DETAILED STRATEGIES FOR EACH DISTRICT BECAUSE OF THE THE

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I DO HAVE ONE QUESTION, THOUGH. WHEN WE LOOK AT AFFORDABILITY, WE HAVE CONSISTENTLY SEEN THAT THE AFFORDABILITY HAS BEEN, BEEN IDENTIFIED AS MORE OPPORTUNISTIC IN THE SOUTHERN AREA OF THE CITY. DO YOU HAVE A STRATEGY TO KIND OF NET THAT OUT AND EQUALIZE AFFORDABILITY SO EVERYBODY CAN LIVE IN THEIR CIRCUMSTANCES? RIGHT.

SO WE DEFINITELY, DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THAT THE NEEDS OF EACH QUADRANT OF OUR CITY IS DIFFERENT.

AND SO WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING, OUR TEAM HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB OF PUTTING TOGETHER WHAT WE CALL A MAP BOOK.

AND THAT MAP BOOK GIVES A PROFILE OF EACH OF THE 14 OR EACH OF THE DISTRICT, EACH OF THE DISTRICTS WITHIN OUR CITY.

AND WHAT WE INTEND, HOW WE INTEND TO USE THAT, THAT DATA IS REALLY AS A GUIDE TO HELP GUIDE US.

ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES IS, IS DATA INFORMED. SO HOW DO WE USE THAT TO, TO GUIDE OUR OUR INVESTMENTS INTO, TO THOSE SPECIFIC QUADRANTS OF OUR CITY. SO THAT'S GOOD.

BUT HAVE YOU, YOU, YOU SAID THAT YOU HAD NOT MET WITH ALL DISTRICTS.

IS THERE A PLAN TO MEET WITH ALL DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO PUT THIS STRATEGY TOGETHER SO THAT AND WHEN WILL THAT HAPPEN? BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN OCTOBER DATE FOR US TO COME BACK WITH US, TO US WITH A A PLAN.

BUT YOU HAVEN'T THE THE FRAMEWORK HAS NOT BEEN COMPLETED IN ORDER TO DO SO.

SO HOW WHAT'S YOUR TIMELINE TO GET THAT DONE? YEAH. THANK YOU. SO ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR RECEIVED INVITATIONS TO MEET WITH US.

TO DATE, WE'VE MET 11 OF 14 COUNCIL MEMBERS OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS.

WE MAY ALREADY KNOW THEIR PRIORITIES OR IT'S NOT A CONVERSATION.

THEY WANTED TO DIVE IN DEEPLY WITH US DURING THAT TIME.

WE'LL REACH OUT AGAIN, OF COURSE, TO TRY TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE REACHED ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS AND THE MAYOR IN TERMS OF LIKE OUR TIMELINE, OUR WORK IS TO GET A POLICY IN PLACE WITH OUR OVERALL VISIONS AND STRATEGIES, AND THEN COME BACK WITH MORE OF THE DETAILS.

AS JAMES SAID, WE'RE ALREADY WORKING ON IT, SO IT'S NOT LIKE IT'S NOT ALREADY SOMETHING THAT WE ARE THINKING ABOUT, BUT CONFIRMING OUR STRATEGY, OUR GOALS, OUR APPROACH, AND THEN DELIVERING OUT ON HOW DIFFERENT REGIONS OF OUR CITY HAVE COMMON GOALS.

SO IT'LL LOOK AT DISTRICTS, BUT ALSO LOOK AT REGIONS BECAUSE NEIGHBORING DISTRICTS ARE SOMETIMES FACING VERY SIMILAR THINGS.

OR MAYBE THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE A DIRECT PRESERVATION STRATEGY IN A PART OF TOWN.

THE GOAL WITH ALL OF THIS WORK IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE UPHOLD FAIR HOUSING VALUES, WE UPHOLD COMMUNITY VALUES AND THE VALUES OF EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IN TERMS OF WHAT TYPE OF HOUSING YOU MIGHT SUPPORT OR WANT TO, TO PROMOTE.

SO AS WE UNDERSTAND ALL OF YOUR PRIORITIES, WHEN WE MEET WITH DEVELOPERS AND OUR CORPORATIONS AND OUR OTHER PARTNERS AND THEY SAY, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO JUMP INTO THE, THE CONDO GAME OR SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OR DUPLEXES.

WE KNOW WHERE WE MIGHT LOOK FOR MAYBE CITY OWNED LAND OR A PARTNERSHIP OR, OR ABILITY TO, TO PARTNER. AND WE KNOW IT MIGHT HAVE YOUR SUPPORT MORE.

AND SO THE MORE WE ENGAGE IN TERMS OF HOW WE UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT PRIORITIES OR OPPORTUNITIES IN DIFFERENT AREAS OF OUR CITY, HELPS OUR PARTNERSHIP NETWORK KNOW WHERE DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS CAN COME THROUGH AND BE SUPPORTIVE OF ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT STAKEHOLDERS AND VALUES THAT DIFFERENT PEOPLE PUT ON THAT COMMUNITY FOR DEVELOPMENT, BUT WE WANT TO AVOID IS MORE OF THE SAME.

AND JUST ANY PROJECT THAT COMES FORWARD. WE DO NEED AS MANY AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS AS POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY AT THE LOWER AMIS, BUT WE DO NEED TO START TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE ENCOURAGE THAT ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY AND DEVELOP HOMEOWNERSHIP AND RENTAL HOUSING WHERE WE HAVE DIFFERENT DEFICITS. WELL, I'M GOING TO I'M GOING TO GIVE AND I'M GOING TO ONLY HAVE TWO MORE QUESTIONS FOR THIS ROUND.

THAT'S OKAY. IN YOUR PRESENTATION, I NOTICED THAT THERE WAS THE NEED FOR THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT TO HAVE MORE MARKET RATE, LESS AFFORDABLE.

THAT THAT THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT ALSO HAS A HIGH, A HIGH CONCENTRATION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

PLEASE COME BACK WITH A PLAN TO MAKE SURE THAT THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT CAN BETTER SUPPORT A HIGHER AMI THAT IS NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE SERVICES WE NEED, SUCH AS GROCERY STORES, HIGH END RETAIL, SIT DOWN RESTAURANTS. CAN YOU COME BACK WITH THAT PLAN?

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WE'RE TASKED WITH AFFORDABLE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING. OUR OUR MONEY IS DEDICATED TYPICALLY TO HOUSEHOLDS UNDER 80% AM I? AND SO WHILE THIS HOUSING POLICY IS REALLY FOCUSED MORE ON THE ATTAINABLE ELEMENTS OF HOUSING IN OUR CITY PART OF OUR PARTNERSHIPS AND DEVELOPMENT AROUND WHAT EACH NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS IS IN THIS POLICY.

SO PEOPLE SEE THAT WE NEED MORE MARKET RATE HOUSING, MORE OWNERSHIP IN CERTAIN REGIONS, SO THAT OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE AND ONLINE AND THE DEVELOPERS, THEY CLEARLY SEE THAT THAT STRATEGY AND THEY MIGHT WORK MORE CLOSELY WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OR PRIVATE BANKS TO, TO REALIZE A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT. OUR, OUR CITY INCENTIVES DON'T GO TO, TO SUPPORT THE MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENTS THROUGH OUR FUNDING AND HOUSING COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. WELL, I DO ALSO APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT, AND I'M GOING TO PUSH BACK ON YOU BECAUSE YOU GUYS ARE THE START TO WHAT WE NEED FROM THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT. AND TO SAY IT'S NOT JUST HOUSING.

IT IS THE PARTNERS THAT ARE IN OUR AUDIENCE. YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO PUSH BACK ON THEM AND TELL THEM, HERE'S WHERE THE CONCENTRATION IS. WE NEED TO SEE WHERE THAT CONCENTRATION IS.

WE NEED TO SEE IN EACH IN EACH DISTRICT WHAT IS THE THE AFFORDABILITY MIX? WHAT ARE THE PLANS IN ORDER TO NEUTRALIZE THE CONCENTRATION OF AFFORDABILITY IN THE SOUTHERN AREA? YOU, YOU, YOU IN YOUR, IN YOUR, IN YOUR PACKAGE, YOU ALSO STATE THAT YOUR, THAT YOU NEED TO PARTNER WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, I BELIEVE, AND I'M SURE THAT IN THREE, FIVE AND EIGHT, WE STILL SEE THE SAME THING THAT A LOT OF THE, THE DEVELOPERS COME AND SAY, WE WANT AFFORDABILITY BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE INFRASTRUCTURE REQUIRED FOR THEM NOT TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT'S WHAT THE ONLY THING THEY CAN DO.

WHEN YOU MET WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, IS THERE A PLAN? WE NEED TO SEE THEM WITH A PLAN THAT PUTS INFRASTRUCTURE AND AND DWU WITH A PLAN TO PUT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE.

SO DEVELOPMENT AND DEVELOPERS DON'T HAVE TO COME AND TELL US, WE CAN'T GIVE YOU WHAT YOU NEED IN ORDER TO BE MORE EQUITABLE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO PUT IN YOUR INFRASTRUCTURE FIRST.

THEN ON PAGE, ON PAGE FIVE, YOU TALKED ABOUT APPROXIMATELY 42 DALLAS RENTERS COULD HAVE HAVE HOME OWNERSHIP, BUT ON PAGE 11, YOUR GOAL IS ONLY TO ASSIST 40 HOUSEHOLDS ANNUALLY.

WHY IS THE HOME BUYER ASSISTANCE ONLY TARGETING 40 PEOPLE PER YEAR? WHEN YOU SAY 42,000 RESIDENTS THAT ARE OUR RENTERS COULD BE HOMEOWNERS.

THANK YOU. THAT ONE SPECIFIC TO RESOURCES WE HAVE AVAILABLE.

SO DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE IS FUNDED THROUGH OUR CDBG AND HOME PROGRAM ANNUALLY AT $800,000.

SO $50,000 A HOUSEHOLD YIELDS ABOUT 40 IMPACTED FOLKS.

THERE ARE A COUPLE TIF DISTRICTS THAT WERE ABLE TO ALSO SUPPORT HOMEOWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT THROUGH DAP.

BUT MOST OF THOSE FUNDS ARE DEDICATED TO HOME REPAIR.

CURRENTLY WHAT OUR CHAIR SAID, AND I'M, I'M PUSHING BACK AGAIN IS BECAUSE THIS IS A PLAN AND NOT A STRATEGY, WE NEED TO SEE DETAILS. YOU GIVE US THE FACTS, GIVE US A PLAN AND A POLICY THAT WILL TAKE THE STRATEGY AND MAKE IT SOMETHING THAT'S ATTAINABLE. THE I DON'T WANT TO SEE DALLAS HOME AS A PROGRAM AND A PROCESS THAT WE JUST PUT ON, WE SAY, OH, NICE. WE REVIEW IT EVERY QUARTER EVERY YEAR AND THEN PUT IT ON A SHELF AND SAY, OH, LET ME PULL IT OUT, DUST IT OFF THIS NEXT YEAR AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO DIFFERENTLY.

WE NEED TO SEE HOW THIS POLICY, HOW THIS PLAN CAN BECOME POLICY THAT THAT THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CAN AGREE TO AND HAVE ATTAINABLE ACTION PLANS, WHETHER IT'S WITH THE PARTNERS THAT ARE INTERNAL OR EXTERNAL.

WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT THAT THAT THERE IS A COLLABORATION THAT'S GOING TO BE ABLE TO BE SUSTAINABLE ON A ONE YEAR, THREE YEAR, FIVE YEAR PROCESS. AND WE CAN WE CAN HAVE, LIKE THE CHAIR SAID, QUARTERLY, MONTHLY, WE CAN AS COUNCIL MEMBERS, WE CAN GO TO YOUR YOUR DASHBOARD, PULL THE INFORMATION OUT AND TELL DEVELOPERS AND

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WE NEED WE WANT TO BE ONE OF THE TOP FIVE. RIGHT.

SO WE NEED A PLAN THAT'S GOING TO GET US TO BE THAT, NOT JUST A EXCUSE ME, A POLICY TO GET US TO THAT AND NOT JUST A PLAN.

THAT'S PRETTY. THANK YOU CHAIR. YEAH. THANK YOU.

WE WE TOTALLY AGREE. THANK YOU. I JUST I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD THIS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE HERE FOR THE WHOLE CITY AND THIS IS A PLAN FOR THE WHOLE CITY. I THINK THERE ARE SPECIFIC STRATEGIES YOU MAY HAVE FOR EACH DISTRICT, BUT AS A PLAN I'M LOOKING HIGHER UP AND THERE MAY BE AGAIN, ITEMS IN THERE THAT WILL HELP US REACH SOME OF THOSE SPECIFIC GOALS THAT WE MAY HAVE, ESPECIALLY IN SOUTHERN DALLAS.

I MEAN, WE'LL JUST BE CLEAR ABOUT THAT. BUT REALLY WE NEED THIS TO ENCOMPASS THE ENTIRE CITY.

EVEN IF WE HAVE STRATEGIES FOR CERTAIN AREAS.

SO CHAIRMAN GRACEY. OKAY. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THIS WORK. AS YOU TRY TO WRAP YOUR ARMS AROUND THIS NEW STRUCTURE.

SO JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK NOTES. AND I THINK AS WE GET TO THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, WE'LL TOUCH ON THIS MORE.

BUT ON PAGE EIGHT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT DEVELOPER FOCUS GROUPS AND PROGRAM REFINEMENT.

AND ONE THING I'D BE CURIOUS ABOUT IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK WILL BE BROUGHT UP LATER, WHICH IS ABOUT PRE-APPROVED HOME DESIGNS AND HOW MUCH THAT COULD BE EMBRACED. AND THEN I ALSO, YOU KNOW, I SEE REFERENCE IN HERE TO LAND TRUST AND THINGS LIKE THAT.

I MEAN, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE AS LONG AS I'VE BEEN HERE.

AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT EVEN BEFORE THEN.

AND SO I JUST, YOU KNOW, WE, WE DO A LOT AROUND THIS.

AND I REALIZE YOU'RE THE PEOPLE SITTING IN THE SEAT NOW, BUT IT'S WE'VE JUST GOT TO MOVE TO ACTION.

AND I MEAN, I KNOW THAT'S THE INTENT, BUT IT'S JUST, IT'S KIND OF SOME OF THE SAME THINGS THAT JUST KEEP COMING UP, BUT NOTHING'S REALLY MEANINGFULLY MOVING FORWARD.

AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HUMANS. AND SO WE REALLY NEED TO BE SURE WE KEEP THAT, I THINK FRONT AND CENTER WITH REGARD TO EXPEDIENCY.

I APPRECIATE I'M KIND OF ALL OVER THE DECK ON PAGE FIVE WHERE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT REALLY IDENTIFYING THAT WHEN WE HAVE A POINT IN TIME COUNT, YOU KNOW, THAT IS A SNAPSHOT AND THAT THE CHURN THAT WE SEE THROUGH OUR COMMUNITY IS MORE LIKE 11,000.

AND SO THAT'S A LOT TO HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT I DON'T THINK WE EVER LOOK AT THAT BIG NUMBER OR THAT IT GETS THE FOCUS THAT IT SHOULD.

ON PAGE 11, WHEN WE GET INTO ALL YOUR WORK AROUND THESE GOALS, AND I LOOK AT PRODUCTION OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT AT THE ARMY LEVEL THAT YOU'RE SAYING WE NEED THE MOST.

I MEAN, THIS IS WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE SCALES OF, YOU KNOW, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AT THESE LOWER ARMY LEVEL QUALIFIERS, BUT ALSO WHAT WE DO AS A CITY AROUND ECONOMIC MOBILITY.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, IF WE CAN RAISE THIS, THEN WE DON'T NEED AS MUCH OF THIS.

BUT RIGHT NOW OUR BIGGEST PRODUCERS ARE THE PFC AND HFC.

WHO ELSE CAN COME IN AND AUGMENT THIS? RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, SO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PRODUCES QUITE A FEW HOMES A YEAR.

OUR INCENTIVE MONEY THAT WE PUT IN FROM CDBG, IT TAKES A LITTLE, A LITTLE LONGER TO REALIZE THOSE BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE, MONEY TO INVEST IN THE DEALS. BUT PSC AND HSC ARE THE TWO LARGEST CONTRIBUTORS TO PRODUCING AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS RIGHT NOW. THERE MAY BE MORE OPPORTUNITY WITH OPPORTUNITY ZONES THAT ARE COMING UP AND SOME OF THE OTHER FEDERAL INCENTIVES, THE FAITH INSTITUTIONS FROM HUD HAS DIRECT TYPE OF LENDING TOOLS THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH DEVELOPERS IN OUR CITY.

AND SO THERE'S A LITTLE BIT, BUT IT CONTINUES TO BE HFC AND PFC IS THE BIGGEST PRODUCER.

SO THAT'S WHY OUR NUMBERS INCLUDE THAT, RIGHT? BECAUSE OUR NUMBERS ARE NOT JUST WHAT WE'RE DOING AS A CITY IN SOME OF THESE.

IT INCLUDES WHAT OUR WHAT OUR PARTNERS AND WHAT'S UNDER THE PURVIEW OF OUR CURRENT COLLABORATIONS ARE ALL COLLECTIVELY PRODUCING EACH YEAR.

AND THIS IS ANTICIPATED TO BE LIKE THE AVERAGE NUMBER OF UNITS THAT MIGHT COME ONLINE A YEAR TO KEEP UP WITH THE NEED, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY MAKE A DENT IN THE NEED BECAUSE OF THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY CHALLENGES YOU MENTIONED.

SO AS WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR BUDGETING AND, YOU KNOW, IN THE NEW NORMAL OF TIGHTENING WHERE WE HAVE TO TIGHTEN AND LOOKING AT PERFORMANCE AND

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YOU TALK ABOUT IMPLEMENTATION WORK GROUPS. AND IS THAT INTERNAL? THAT IS CITY DEPARTMENTS. THAT'S THE WORK GROUPS.

SO AS I LOOK AT THIS ISSUE, IT'S NOT JUST OUR ISSUE.

IT'S NOT JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS ISSUE. THIS IS DISD AND ALL OF THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS WE TOUCH.

THIS IS OUR CHAMBERS OF COMMERCE. THIS IS OUR HEALTH PROVIDERS EVERYTHING FROM PARKLAND TO HHS HEALTH AND VICKERY MEADOW AND OTHERS THAT I'M SURE LOS BARRIOS UNIDOS AND OTHERS.

SO WHEN I LOOK AT PAGE 23 AND THIS GRID AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE MEASURE IS AND WHAT THE OUTCOME IS THAT WE WANT, AND THEN I LOOK AT THE CONTRIBUTING DEPARTMENT.

I'M JUST CONCERNED THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE THE OX WITH THE YOKE ON OUR LONELY BACK.

AND SO TELL ME MORE ABOUT THIS. I MEAN, WE HAD A DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO WORK ON THIS, AND IT HAD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES.

BUT I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE IF WE'RE NOT TALKING TO OTHERS, IF WE'RE LIVING IN THIS SILO, WE'RE NOT GOING TO MAKE THE MEANINGFUL PROGRESS THAT WE SHOULD. YEAH. AGREED. AND THAT'S WHERE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY COME IN AS THE THE LARGER POLICY THAT COUNCIL APPROVED IN DECEMBER AND HEALTHY, HEALTHY, SAFE NEIGHBORHOODS IS ONE OF THE MAIN DRIVERS OR DOMAINS OF THAT WORK.

AND THROUGH THAT, THAT'S WHERE WE ENGAGE THE ANCHOR INSTITUTIONS, THE FAITH BASED INSTITUTIONS, THE DEVELOPER GROUPS TO HAVE MORE OF THAT MEANINGFUL CITY WIDE LEVEL IMPACT AND ALIGNMENT. WHAT'S CARRIED OUT HERE IS THE INTERNAL GROUP TO SHOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ALSO HAVE TO DO THAT IN OUR INTERNAL WORKING GROUP, BUT IT'S HAPPENING AT BOTH LEVELS.

AND YOU'RE RIGHT, THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE URGENCY TO THAT AND WE NEED TO ELEVATE THAT WORK MORE SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THOSE REGULAR MEETINGS TO TALK ABOUT HOW EVERYTHING CONTINUES TO BE INTERCONNECTED. JAMES SITS ON THE THE, THE BOARD, THE CONTINUUM OF CARE BOARD.

WE ALSO HAVE THE MULTIPLE CITY QUARTERLY MEETUPS WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT HOMELESS AGENCIES AROUND THE CITY.

AND WE NEED TO EXPAND UPON THAT TO, TO BRING ALL OF THIS IN TOGETHER.

AND WHAT WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT OTHER MARKETS WHO HAVE HAD SUCCESS WITH HOUSING PRODUCTION EFFICIENCY OF THE ECOSYSTEM, CITIES LIKE ATLANTA. ONE THING THAT'S MISSING FROM THE EQUATION WITH DALLAS IS THAT BIG CORPORATE PARTNER.

SO WE'VE BEEN HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AS WALL STREET CONTINUES TO DEVELOP.

WE THINK IT THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO HAVE A CORPORATE PARTNER BACKING NOT ONLY JUST HOUSING STRATEGY, BUT OUR STRATEGY AROUND INCREASING HOUSING STABILITY AND ECONOMIC MOBILITY.

WELL, YOU KNOW, I LOVE THOSE WORDS AS HAVING A CORPORATE PARTNER AND BRINGING ANY KIND OF GRANT, PRIVATE PHILANTHROPY, CORPORATE INVOLVEMENT AND USE THOSE DOLLARS BECAUSE THEY BENEFIT AS WELL.

SO I DO SEE THAT THERE'S ENGAGEMENT IN MEETINGS AND GETTING INPUT AND ALL OF THAT.

BUT WHAT I'M NOT NECESSARILY HEARING IS THAT WE'RE REALLY, REALLY WORKING TOGETHER TO SAY WE NEED AN OVERALL CITYWIDE STRATEGY.

AND YOU MAY SAY, WELL, AROUND HOMELESSNESS, YOU KNOW, CONTINUUM OF CARE REALLY DRIVES THAT, BUT I'M JUST NOT FEELING THAT THREAD THAT TIES IT ALL TOGETHER, WHERE IT'S MORE THAN JUST HEARING WHAT YOU THINK WE SHOULD DO.

AND THEN HAVING CITY DEPARTMENTS KIND OF OWN THAT.

IT'S MORE OWNERSHIP, EVEN FROM THE OUTSIDE OR FROM THESE OTHER ENTITIES THAT ALSO STRUGGLE WITH THIS.

YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT FEEDBACK. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE BEEN FEELING AS WELL, LIKE WE HAVE LIKE THE POLICIES BASED OFF OTHER POLICIES, RIGHT? WE KNOW THE WORK THAT'S NEEDED. WE KNOW OUR DATA IN TERMS OF THE NEED.

WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY FOUNDATION OF TEXAS AS A STRONG PARTNER THAT IS GROWING HOUSED TX AND STARTS TO BE A PHILANTHROPY ARM.

WE NEED SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNERS TO BUY INTO THIS AS WELL.

GREATER DALLAS PLANNING COMMISSION. RIGHT. THEY'RE WORKING ON THEIR HOUSING POLICY THAT LOOKS AT LAND USE AND CODE REFORM AND A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER THINGS. AND WE'RE AT THAT TABLE AS WELL. AND SO AS WE BRING SOME OF THESE OTHER PEOPLE TOGETHER, THINKING ABOUT POLICY AND LAND USE AND LEGISLATION AND INCENTIVES ALL TOGETHER, I THINK THAT'S MORE THE THREAD THAT TIES IT TOGETHER.

AND WE'RE HAPPY TO INCLUDE THAT IN AS WE CONTINUE TO UPDATE AND HOW WE SHOW THAT WHERE OUR INCENTIVE MONEY GOES AND WHERE OTHERS MIGHT BE ABLE TO INFUSE INTO THE SYSTEM AS PART OF THE OVERALL METRICS OF HOW DO WE ACHIEVE THIS? WELL, I THINK WE NEED A TEAM OR WE NEED AN INVESTOR TO HELP PROVIDE THAT SCAFFOLDING TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN, WHERE EVERYBODY'S COMING TOGETHER AND OWNING IT.

I'M GOING TO FINISH WITH PAGE 24, WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT INVESTING 6.7 MILLION TO PRODUCE 125 TRANSITIONAL OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OPTIONS FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

SO WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE PALLET HOMES COMING UP.

IS THAT 2.7 MILLION FOR THE PALLET HOMES COMING OUT OF THIS 6.7 MILLION OR TELL ME WHAT THAT IS MADE OF.

SO THE 6.7 MILLION INCLUDES THE MONEY THAT WE INVEST IN THE BRIDGE AND ADDITIONAL SERVICES.

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SO THAT DOESN'T COVER THE OTHER, WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT TRANSITIONAL OR SUPPORTIVE HOUSING OPTIONS, IT'S NOT THESE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON.

NOT, NOT NOT YET. I MEAN THAT THAT NUMBER IS THE 4.6 MILLION FROM GENERAL FUND THAT WE WE PROVIDE.

THERE'S AN ITEM IN THIS AGENDA FOR 1.3 MILLION FROM THE COUNTY.

WE ALSO HAVE SOME STATE FUNDING, AROUND 600,000 THAT GOES INTO THAT TO SUPPORT PRIMARILY THE BRIDGE.

OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. CHAIR. MORENO. THANK YOU CHAIR.

JAMES, THANKS FOR THAT OPENING. YOU IN A LOT OF THIS DOES BOIL DOWN TO SOMEONE'S HOME, SOMEONE'S ZIP CODE AND THE OUTCOMES.

I'M JUST GOING TO START WITH ON PAGE FIVE IS WHAT IS THE CURRENT RENTAL MARKET IN DALLAS? MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT RENTAL PRICES ARE GOING SLIGHTLY DOWN IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.

SO WHAT IS THE THE AVERAGE RENT AND DO WE SEE THAT STABILIZING GOING DOWN, GOING UP HERE IN THE CITY? YEAH. WHAT WE'RE SEEING IN THE MARKET IS SOME DOWNWARD TREND.

VARIOUS VARIABLES ARE CAUSING THAT SUPPLY OVERSUPPLY IN SOME CASES WILL CAUSE THAT BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS ONE BEDROOM AROUND THE 1400 MARK.

AS OF COURSE, YOU GO FURTHER AWAY FROM THE URBAN CORE THAT PRICE SINKS A LITTLE BIT.

BUT THAT'S WHERE WE ARE CURRENTLY, AND IS THAT A MARKET RATE OR IS THAT A SUBSIDIZED RATE? WHERE IS THAT AT? THAT IS A MARKET RATE UNIT.

OKAY. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT HOMEOWNERSHIP AND THE HOUSE OF COST, COST OF HOMEOWNERSHIP THE AVERAGE IS 405,000. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION FOR A NEW BUILD? AND ALLISON, WHERE I'M GOING WITH THAT IS OPPORTUNITIES FOR LAND BANKS, OPPORTUNITIES WHERE THE CITY HAS THE LAND.

AND SO NOT TAKING THE COST OF THE LAND OUT IN JUST A SIMPLE CONSTRUCTION COST FOR A THREE BEDROOM HOME.

WELL, I'LL HAVE TO PUT BACK ON MY DEVELOPER HAT.

I HAVEN'T HAD IT FOR EIGHT MONTHS, BUT I WOULD SAY THE COST OF CONSTRUCTING A SINGLE FAMILY, ONE STORY, THREE BEDROOM, TWO BATHROOM HOUSE, ANYWHERE BETWEEN 225 AND 250.

OKAY. AND SO AS WE START LOOKING AT THE THE POSSIBILITY OF A PRE-APPROVED HOUSING DESIGN STANDARDS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT I HOPE THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALSO BE DOING WITH DALLAS ISD, AND THAT WILL BE GOING TO THE ECO DEV COMMITTEE HERE SHORTLY.

WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? DOES IT STREAMLINE THINGS? YOU KNOW, MY HOPE IS THAT IT MAKES THINGS FASTER.

BUT BUT ALSO AT THE SAME TIME THAT WE DON'T HAVE EVERY SINGLE HOME LOOKING EXACTLY ALIKE.

RIGHT. AND THAT THERE'S SOME, SOME DIFFERENCES TO ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE GOING INTO COMMUNITIES THAT HAVE MORE CHARACTER.

HOW DO WE HAVE THAT BALANCE? YEAH. SO OUR FRIENDS IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT ARE ACTUALLY ADVANCING THAT BECAUSE IT HAS TO DO WITH PERMITTING AND DESIGN AND LAND USE.

AND SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH CFT AS WELL TO GET A GRANT TO SUPPORT THAT INITIATIVE.

BUT THE GREAT THING ABOUT A CATALOG IS YOU CAN HAVE ONE FLOOR PLAN WITH THREE FACADE OPTIONS, AND BY MAXING, MIXING AND MATCHING, YOU COULD HAVE QUITE A BIT OF VARIETY WITH JUST FIVE FLOOR PLANS AND 15 DIFFERENT, YOU KNOW, FACADES. AND SO THE IDEA BEHIND THAT IS TO HAVE CHOICE AND VARIATION, BUT ALSO BALANCE OUT THE HISTORICAL DESIGNS OF SOME OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT PUSH THE BOUNDARIES A BIT ON WHAT A MODERN BUYER MIGHT WANT.

AND SO THERE'S A, THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND THERE THAT WE MIGHT SEE BY ADVANCING PREAPPROVED PLANS SO THAT WE DON'T JUST PUT IT IN THE HANDS OF A DEVELOPER WHO'S SELLING A CERTAIN UNIT. BUT THIS ALLOWS US TO BOTH HAVE EFFICIENCY WITHIN OUR PLANNING AND PERMITTING UPLIFT, SOME OF THE DESIGN CHARACTERISTICS THAT COMMUNITIES WANT TO SEE AND ULTIMATELY GET MORE HOUSING CHOICE TO, TO A BUYER. AND SO INTEGRATING THAT WITH OUR LAND BANK OR OTHER INCENTIVES WHEN WE INVEST IN SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING HELP TO DEVELOPER SAVE ON ARCHITECTURE COSTS THEY WOULD ONLY NEED TO DO SITE DESIGN. AND IT JUST BRINGS THAT WHOLE SORT OF HISTORY AND COMMUNITY AND PLANNING AND EFFICIENCY TOGETHER.

AND I WILL SAY OUR PARTNERS AT COMMUNITIES FOUNDATION OF TEXAS HAS ALREADY AGREED TO PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THIS PROGRAM.

PLANNING IS LEADING IT, BUT OAC STAFF IS IS INVOLVED AND AND I WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME MOVEMENT THERE PRETTY SHORTLY.

THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE A TIMELINE ON WHEN WE WOULD SEE THOSE DESIGN GUIDELINES OR STANDARDS? NOT, NOT TODAY, BUT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT FOR YOU. OKAY.

SO YOU KNOW, AS YOU TAKE COUNCIL FEEDBACK, I THINK Y'ALL DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF CAPTURING THAT,

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YOU MENTIONED COMMUNITIES FOUNDATION. WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS OR INCENTIVES DO WE HAVE IN PLACE TO PREVENT TEAR DOWNS TO ENCOURAGE PRESERVATION OF PROPERTIES? WHAT DO WE HAVE IN PLACE? SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO, ESPECIALLY IN OUR OLDER COMMUNITIES, IS HAVING A PROGRAM.

I THINK HISTORIC PRESERVATION HAS A PROGRAM, BUT IT'S NOT FUNDED IN ORDER TO.

ENHANCE OR SUPPORT FOLKS TO INVEST INTO THOSE PROPERTIES.

AND RATHER THAN TEARING DOWN AND BUILDING NEW.

AND SO ASIDE FROM HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS WHAT OTHER PROGRAMS ARE AVAILABLE TO INCENTIVIZE A HOMEOWNER OR A DEVELOPER TO INVEST INTO, INTO WHAT SOMEONE MIGHT SAY IS A TEAR DOWN PROPERTY? YEAH. THANK YOU. THERE'S NOT TOO MANY PROGRAMS THAT ARE, THAT I'M AWARE OF RIGHT NOW, ASIDE FROM THE HISTORIC EXEMPTION THAT SOMEONE MIGHT QUALIFY FOR INVESTING IN THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY AT A CERTAIN LEVEL.

I CAN'T REMEMBER THE TOTAL THRESHOLDS RIGHT NOW.

BUT THAT, THAT ALLOWS WHEN SOMEONE DOES INVEST IN THEIR HISTORIC HOME, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THAT HISTORIC EXEMPTION AND SAVE SOME MONEY ON THEIR PROPERTY TAXES FOR THAT EXEMPTION. THAT ONE'S REALLY POWERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD EMPOWERMENT ZONES HAVE POTENTIAL IN THE STATE OF TEXAS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT FOR POLICY REFINEMENT DOWN THE ROAD, BECAUSE THAT THAT APPLIES TO BOTH NEW DEVELOPMENT AS WELL AS THE INVESTMENT IN EXISTING PROPERTIES. BUT ALL OF THAT REQUIRES THAT HOMEOWNER TO PROVIDE THEIR OWN CAPITAL.

THE CITY COULD NOT SUPPLY THE INVESTMENT IN HOME REPAIR OR THAT INVESTMENT IN ORDER FOR THEM TO GET THAT, BECAUSE IT DOES REQUIRE THEM TO MEET THAT INVESTMENT CRITERIA ON THEIR OWN.

OKAY. REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR CLUSTER COMMUNITIES WHERE APPROPRIATE.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY UNIQUE AND CAN OFFER, AGAIN, IF WE CAN ELIMINATE THAT BIG COST OF LAND VALUE, I THINK IT'S AN OPPORTUNITY TO KEEP THOSE HOME PRICES DOWN.

WE ALL WANT TO SEE ADDITIONAL RETAIL AND EVEN GROCERY STORES COME INTO THESE COMMUNITIES.

AND SO NOW THAT WE'VE APPROVED A NUMBER OF HFCS AND PFCS AND OTHER PROGRAMS. WHEN DO WE START SEEING THOSE THAT RETAIL. HAPPENING BECAUSE WE'VE NOW APPROVED HAVE A NUMBER OF APPROVED PROJECTS.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, AS WE LOOK AT SUPPORT AT THE INCREASED MARKET RATE TO SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WE'RE I THINK WE'RE DOING OUR PART, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING IT COME TO FRUITION ON THE RETAIL SIDE.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT QUESTION. I'LL SAY ONE OF THE THINGS THAT MERGED WITH THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT WAS OUR INCENTIVE APPLICATION. AND SO IF A DEVELOPER WANTS INCENTIVE FROM, FOR A HOUSING PROJECT, THEY SUBMIT AN APPLICATION TO THE OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

WHAT THAT HAS DONE IS REALLY CREATE SPACE FOR THERE TO BE MORE CONVERSATION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

AND AS THOR MENTIONED BEFORE RETAIL COMMERCIAL.

IT REALLY KIND OF FALLS INTO ECO'S LAP, BUT WE HAVE A LOT TO DO WITH IT.

SO YOU KNOW, WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW IS HAVING, AGAIN, GREATER CONVERSATION WITH ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AS THEY CREATE THEIR STRATEGIES FOR, YOU KNOW, COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. WE WANT TO BE A PARTNER IN THEIR STRATEGY, LIKE VICE VERSA, LIKE THEY ARE A PARTNER IN OUR STRATEGY. AND SO I THINK WHAT YOU'LL SEE IS JUST GREATER COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. AND I WOULD JUST ADD THAT THE HFC HAS HIRED A CONSULTANT TEAM AT SMU TO LOOK AT ECONOMIC IMPACT OF THE, OF THE PROJECTS. AND SO THAT'S A, THAT'S A STUDY THAT'S GOING TO UNFOLD OVER THE NEXT YEAR WHICH CAN TELL US, YOU KNOW, HOW MARKETS ARE CHANGING OR IMPACTED BY THE DEVELOPMENTS.

AND AS WE ALL KNOW DECISIONS AROUND WHERE A COMPANY INVESTS IN A GROCERY STORE OR RETAIL CENTER OR THEIR SHOP INVOLVES A WHOLE LOT OF CRITERIA.

HOUSING IS A KEY COMPONENT OF IT. HOUSING THAT'S STABLE AND SAFE AND CLEAN IS A CORE COMPONENT.

AND SO WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT PROPERTIES WE INVEST IN OR SUPPORT, YOU KNOW, HAVE THAT COMMUNITY ASPECT IN MIND SO THAT IT HELPS WITH THE WHOLE ENVIRONMENT OF RECRUITING AND RETAINING COMMERCIAL PROPERTY OWNERS, RIGHT? YOU KNOW, AS WE CONTINUE HAVING THESE HFCS AND PFCS, WE TALK ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR SALES TAX REVENUE FOR THOSE FOLKS TO GO INTO

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AND SO I'M VERY INTERESTED TO SEEING THAT IN MAINTAINING, IN REGULARLY UPDATING THE HOUSING INVENTORY TOOL, SHOWING CITY SUPPORTED PROJECTS TO SEE IF THAT INVESTMENT IS ACTUALLY COMING TO FRUITION, OR IF IT'S JUST THE CITY AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WAITING FOR THAT DEVELOPMENT TO HAPPEN ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.

THAT'S ALL FOR THIS ROUND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, BUT I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU ALL FOR THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. AND THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH ME RECENTLY TO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS THIS AND GET MY PERSPECTIVE ON THESE ISSUES.

BUT AS MISS WILLIS SAID, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT.

YOU KNOW, POLICY AND PLANNING, IT'S GREAT. BUT I THINK IMPLEMENTATION AND IMPACT OBVIOUSLY IS WHAT'S MOST IMPORTANT.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION AND FOR YOUR WORK.

I'M OVERALL OPTIMISTIC AND. POSITIVE AND HOPEFUL FOR THE THE STRATEGY. BUT I WOULD AGREE THAT WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF STRATEGY OVER SEVERAL YEARS.

AND IMPLEMENTATION DOESN'T NECESSARILY CORRELATE TO THE STRATEGIES THAT WE'VE HEARD.

SO RIGHT NOW THE MATH ISN'T REALLY CLOSING UP.

WE HAVE 3500 PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS ON ANY GIVEN NIGHT AND 2400 EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS AT OUR THAT ARE AT OR NEAR CAPACITY. FIRST, COULD YOU JUST CLEAR UP WHAT AT ALMOST OR NEAR CAPACITY MEANS ARE WE AT 90%, 98%? WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT? I WOULD SAY IN MOST CASES, OUR SHELTER CAPACITY IS FULL.

WITH IN THE CASE OF THE BRIDGE, WE THERE'S A SITUATION WHERE INDIVIDUALS ARE BEING TURNED AWAY EVERY, EVERY NIGHT IN THE RANGE OF 100 TO 200 INDIVIDUALS.

AND WITH THAT SAID, WHAT IS THE STRATEGY? ON EXPANDING THE BED CAPACITY AT THE BRIDGE.

THANK YOU. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO WE'RE PREPARING FOR OUR STATE OF HOMELESSNESS PRESENTATION, WHERE WE WILL PRESENT TO YOU THE THE NEEDS IN THAT SPACE ARE RESOURCES AVAILABLE THROUGH THE BOND CAMPAIGN AND THROUGH OUR GENERAL FUND, AND ALLOW OPPORTUNITIES FOR FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THE BEST WAYS TO UTILIZE THE INVESTMENTS TO ADDRESS THE MULTIPLE NEEDS WE HAVE.

SO THAT PRESENTATION IS BEING SCHEDULED FOR FULL COUNCIL AT THE REQUEST OF A FIVE SIGNATURE MEMO.

AND SO WE WANT TO UNPACK ALL OF THAT INFORMATION AND PRESENT TO YOU ALL OPTIONS FOR DISCUSSION SO THAT WE HAVE AS MUCH CLARITY AS WE CAN ON OUR MARCHING ORDERS TO MAKE THOSE INVESTMENTS HAPPEN. SO RESPECTFULLY, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION FOR MULTIPLE YEARS.

I BELIEVE NOW WE'VE SEEN TWO AND A HALF YEARS SINCE WE'VE ACTUALLY MADE DEFINITIVE ACTION TO PUT DOLLARS TOWARDS TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS. WE WERE TOLD THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO EXPAND WITHIN THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT FOOTPRINT THAT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY ZONING.

IT WOULDN'T REQUIRE ANY DISRUPTION, NOT ANY MAJOR CONSTRUCTION.

AND IT WAS TO ME REALLY OUTLINED AS A LOW HANGING FRUIT.

I, I'M STRUGGLING WITH HAVING THE OPTIMISM THAT I STARTED WITH IN THIS COMMENT BECAUSE WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THINGS AND WE DON'T DO IT. AND SO I'M JUST CURIOUS WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO ALLOW FOR POLITICS TO PREVENT US FROM DOING WHAT WE KNOW IS A VIABLE OPTION THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACE. IN FACT, I WAS TOLD SO DEFINITIVELY FROM STAFF THAT THERE WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UTILIZE THE EXISTING FOOTPRINT OF THE BRIDGE TO MAKE TANGIBLE CHANGE BECAUSE OF THOSE WHO WERE BEING DENIED ENTRY AT NIGHT.

THAT WAS JUST TRICKLING FOR A RESIDUAL IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY.

ET CETERA. AND MEANWHILE, WE'VE JUST THROWN OUR HANDS UP AND SAID, YOU KNOW WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO? WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO FOCUS ON CITY HALL BECAUSE GETTING RID OF THIS BUILDING IS ALL OF A SUDDEN GOING TO CHANGE THAT. AND THEN IT'S JUST CONTINUED TO SNOWBALL INTO A CONVERSATION THAT'S REALLY NOT ADDRESSING THAT'S RIGHT IN FRONT OF OUR FACE. CAN YOU JUST TELL ME WITHOUT LIKE THE, THE PC BUREAUCRACY TALK, WHAT'S KEEPING US FROM DOING THIS? IT'S THE IT'S TIMING OF EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US AND LAYING OUT ALL THE PROJECTS.

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YOU ASKED THE MEMBERS OF THE BODY OF THAT CONTROL, THE PURSE STRING TO PROVIDE YOU WITH FUNDING.

WE DID THAT IN A WAY THAT REQUIRED THE VOTERS TO WEIGH IN.

THE VOTERS HAVE WEIGHED IN, AND THEY HAVE GIVEN THEIR STAMP OF APPROVAL.

AND SO NOW WE HAVE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, THAT'S BEEN STAMPED BY APPROVED BY THIS BODY.

THERE'S BEEN MULTIPLE DISCUSSIONS TO THE SAME RESULT.

WHAT WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO OTHER THAN CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT THIS? YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND COMMENT. I DON'T FEEL LIKE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT IT RIGHT.

WHEN WE STARTED OFFICE HOUSING, COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, THE FIRST THING WE DID WAS SUNSET SOME POLICIES AND MERGE FOUR DEPARTMENTS.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, WE HAD TO GO THROUGH THESE LAST EIGHT MONTHS TO LIKE, UNPACK EVERYTHING THAT WAS UNDER OUR PURVIEW, UNDERSTAND THAT PROJECTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED IN THE BOND, LIKE THE SHELTER BEDS THAT THE BRIDGE WAS BASED ON A SKETCH, IT'S NOT A REAL COST ESTIMATE. THERE'S NOT BEEN AN ENGINEER OUT THERE.

I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO PUT TOGETHER THAT RFP. FRANKLY, WHEN I'VE PRIORITIZED OTHER WORK THAT HAS BEEN AHEAD OF US IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE WORKED ON TO CONTINUE OUR SERVICE CONTRACTS. WE'RE NOW AT A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ADVANCING OUR PRODUCTION AND OUR PRESERVATION WORK.

YOU SEE MORE OF OUR WORK COMING FORWARD THAT IS ABOUT THE CONTRACT RENEWALS AND ABOUT HOW WE'RE UTILIZING OUR FEDERAL FUNDS.

PART OF THE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN AROUND THE STATE OF HOUSING PRESENTATION WE GAVE IN IN APRIL TO GET FEEDBACK ON THE OVERALL POLICY FRAMEWORK AND THEN FOLLOWING IT UP WITH THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS. SO WE CAN GET ABSOLUTE CLARITY ON, IS THAT THE LOWEST HANGING FRUIT? IS IT THE BEST OPTION FOR INVESTMENT? BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES, OTHER PROJECTS. BUT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, YOU'VE YOU'VE ALL OF WHAT YOU JUST SAID NEGATES THE FACT THAT I GAVE YOU MY DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS AND ASKED YOU ALL TO DO SOMETHING WITH IT.

YES. SPECIFICALLY, I DIDN'T ASK YOU ALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT Y'ALL THOUGHT WAS BEST FOR IT.

IN FACT, I HAVE A VERY SHORT. I HAVE AN EXPIRATION DATE, LIKE SEVERAL OF US OVER HERE, AND I GAVE YOU THESE DOLLARS WITH AN INTENT THAT WE COULD MAKE TANGIBLE CHANGE. WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT A GROWING ISSUE ON OUR STREETS.

WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT A GROWING ISSUE FROM THE GENERAL PUBLIC, BECAUSE THEY WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE DONE FOR OUR UNSHELTERED.

WE'VE GOT TO STOP COMPLICATING THINGS WHEN WE HAVE LOW HANGING FRUIT IN FRONT OF US.

I ALSO WOULD LIKE TO BE RESPECTED IN THE ROLE THAT I PLAY, IN MAKING SURE THAT I'M NOT GOING TO LEAVE, AND I CHOSE TO GIVE MY DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS TO A PLACE THAT NEVER GOT OFF THE GROUND AND WAS IMPLEMENTED.

THAT'S NOT WHY I DID WHAT I DID. WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CHOSE TO PUT THEIR DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS TO THEIR OWN LEGACY PROJECTS.

AND I SEE THEM GETTING OFF THE OFF THE GROUND AND THE FACT THAT MINE IS FOR THE MOST VULNERABLE AND WHAT I DO CONSIDER TO BE LOW HANGING FRUIT.

I WANT TO STOP AND GO THROUGH WHATEVER RED TAPE IS PREVENTING US FROM EXECUTING THIS PROJECT.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT IS, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE ARTICULATED VERY CLEARLY.

IF THERE IS POLITICS, LET US HAVE THAT OUT HERE.

LET US GO TOGETHER WITH THE AS THE POLICY MAKERS AND HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AND DEBATE.

BUT TO PREVENT THIS FROM EVEN BEING ACTUALLY CONSIDERED IS REALLY FRUSTRATING BECAUSE I CONTINUE TO HEAR ABOUT THESE STRATEGIES AND THESE CONCEPTS AND THESE PLANS, AND I'M TIRED OF THE PLANS.

I WANT TO GET PEOPLE OFF OF OUR STREETS. AND TO THAT NOTE, I WANT TO FIND OUT ABOUT THIS PALLET HOME.

I SEE THE UPDATE THAT YOU ALL HAVE, BUT I ALSO SEE IT AS A STRATEGY IN, IN HOW YOU ALL WANT TO, TO GET INDIVIDUALS OFF OF THE STREET. BAZALDUA WE SAVE THE, THE PALLET ONE FOR THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM AND YOU'LL BE THE FIRST ONE TO SPEAK IF THAT'S ALL RIGHT. SURE. THANK YOU. I DO THINK THAT THERE'S A TOTAL RELEVANCE TO THIS PRESENTATION AND THE A BRIEF CONVERSATION.

OKAY. IT'S NOT TO LIMIT YOU. IT'S TO GIVE YOU THE PROPER FORM.

YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. OKAY. I WILL SAY, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE NOTICED THAT THEY'VE LOOKED AT ME A COUPLE OF TIMES IN PLANNING FOR THIS MEETING TODAY.

THERE WAS A BIG DISCUSSION ABOUT THE BRIDGE. AND, YOU KNOW, I KNOW I SAID THIS AT ONE COUNCIL MEETING, I'M GOING TO JUST FLAT OUT SAY IT HERE BECAUSE YOU'RE RIGHT.

WE NEED TO JUST HONESTLY TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING.

AND THE ISSUE IS THERE IS AN EFFORT TO MOVE THE BRIDGE OUT OF DOWNTOWN DALLAS.

AND THAT EFFORT IS NOT FROM THE CITY. THAT ISSUE IS FROM THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY AND FROM THE DONORS, AND THEY HAVE ALREADY IDENTIFIED LAND THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN.

THEY HAVE PRIVATELY COMMITTED MORE THAN $50 MILLION TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

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AND, MADAM CHAIR, I JUST WANT TO SAY ON RECORD THAT IF THE PLAN IS WHAT HAS BEEN SKIRTED AROUND TO ME, I'VE BEEN VERY OPEN TO SUPPORT HOMELESS RESOURCES.

I'M ALL OPEN TO HOLDING MY NOSE AND TELLING MY OWN COMMUNITY THAT I WILL GO AGAINST THE CONSENSUS THAT'S GOING TO COME FORWARD, BECAUSE I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE'S EVER GOING TO BE A CONSENSUS TO SUPPORT HOMELESS RESOURCES COMING NEXT TO SOMEONE'S NEIGHBORHOOD.

BUT THERE'S STRICT ZONING IN PLACE IN A PD NEXT TO AUSTIN STREET, AND I WILL FIGHT TOOTH AND NAIL ON THIS BEING EXPANDED TO BEING A DUMPING GROUNDS.

WE HAVE TO STOP WITH THIS MINDSET THAT WE ARE GOING TO PUSH THEM TO AREAS THAT WE DON'T WANT TO SEE THEM, INSTEAD OF EXPANDING AND ADDING TO THE RESOURCES THAT WE PROVIDE IN OUR CITY.

WELL, SO AGAIN, IN TALKING ABOUT THIS PLAN, WHICH IS THE AGENDA ITEM, THIS IS TAKING A LOT OF CONCEPTS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FOR YEARS.

YOU'RE CORRECT. AND WRAPPING THEM UP TOGETHER SO THAT THERE IS A STRATEGY TO MOVE FORWARD.

BUT WE CAN'T DO THAT UNLESS WE PUT THEM TOGETHER.

WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THEM DISCONNECTED FOR TOO LONG, AND THAT'S WHY THIS PLAN WAS THE FIRST THING REALLY THOUGHT THAT YOU HAVE SPENT A LOT OF TIME BRINGING FORWARD TO US IN YOUR NEW ROLE.

SO CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. BUT TO YOUR POINT, WE DON'T CONTROL EVERYTHING IN THE CITY.

I MEAN, I THINK THAT SOMETIMES WHEN WE SIT HERE, WE THINK WE DO, BUT WE DON'T.

AND I DO THINK THAT THERE WILL BE A VERY SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION OF SERVICES IN AN AREA OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN.

THAT AREA HAS CHANGED MANY TIMES. LOTS OF DIFFERENT LOCATIONS HAVE BEEN FLOATED.

I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF THEY HAVE THE SET THING BECAUSE AGAIN, IT'S NOT THE CITY, BUT THE IDEA OF US TAKING TAXPAYER DOLLARS, WHETHER IT'S BOND OR ITS GENERAL FUND OR OTHER KINDS OF DEBT, AND INVESTING MORE INTO A FACILITY THAT PROBABLY ISN'T GOING TO BE THERE LONG TERM IS NOT GOOD FISCAL STEWARDSHIP.

AND SO I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT, MADAM CHAIR. BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WE LOOK HISTORICALLY AT WHAT WE'VE INVESTED IN THAT FACILITY.

SO TO EVEN ENTERTAIN THE NOTION OF RELOCATING, THAT IS JUST AS NEGLECTFUL TO THE STEWARDSHIP OF THE TAXPAYERS.

SO BECAUSE THERE'S CONVERSATIONS, AS YOU POINTED OUT, EVEN CITY HALL, OTHER PROPERTIES, BUILDIG IS A GREAT EXAMPLE WHERE THE QUESTION IS, WELL, WHAT'S THE HIGHEST AND BEST USE? THERE'S NO DOUBT THAT THE PROPERTY AT THE BRIDGE IS ON RIGHT NOW COULD BE REDEVELOPED.

SO I DON'T THINK THAT THE CITY WOULD END UP LOSING DOLLARS ON THAT.

AND WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN FOR DOWNTOWN IN TERMS OF ITS DEVELOPMENT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT.

I'M NOT ADVOCATING ONE WAY OR THE OTHER. WE HAVEN'T HAD A BRIEFING YET.

I'VE ASKED FOR THERE TO BE A BRIEFING, AND THAT'S WHY THEY'RE LOOKING AT ME.

AND I SPOKE WITH SOME OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED AND ASKED THEM TO JUST FLAT OUT HAVE THIS CONVERSATION WITH US ABOUT WHAT'S AT LEAST THE DREAM. IF THEY DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS, WHICH THEY MIGHT.

BUT THE REALITY IS THE WAY DALLAS IS SET UP, IT ISN'T JUST GOVERNMENT.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE VERY, VERY WEALTHY PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING TO AVAIL THEIR RESOURCES TO SOLVE A PROBLEM THAT WE CAN ALL IDENTIFY AND IS VERY COSTLY TO OUR CITY, WE SHOULD AT LEAST LISTEN AND CONSIDER IT.

AND SO I'M ALL OPEN TO CONSIDERING. I'M JUST SAYING THAT WE NEED TO STOP BEING IN OUR OWN WAY.

WE HAVE ALLOWED FOR PERFECT TO BE THE ENEMY OF GOOD FOR TOO LONG.

AND WHAT YOU'RE DISCUSSING IS SOMETHING THAT IS LONG TERM AND IS NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING IN THE INTERIM FOR THE INDIVIDUALS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE STILL STUCK AND NOT ABLE TO GO INTO THE BRIDGE. AND SO IF WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT BEDS IN PLACE, EVEN FOR A LONG TERM VISION TO, TO, TO BE IMPLEMENTED, I DO NOT THINK IT'S A WASTE OF MONEY.

IF WE GET INDIVIDUALS OFF OF OUR STREETS. YOU AND I HAVE SERVED TOGETHER FOR SEVEN YEARS.

FOR SEVEN YEARS I HAVE SAID WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH EMERGENCY SERVICE BEDS AND EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS.

THAT'S JUST A FACT. AND IT'S ALSO A FACT THAT OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN OUR BRIEFINGS, MOST OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE NOT WILLING TO GO TO SHELTER.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE TRUTHS OUT THERE. I'M NOT SURE WE I MEAN, I DO THINK WE NEED SOME ADDITIONAL EMERGENCY SHELTER BEDS.

SOME WILL COME ONLINE WITH SALVATION ARMY, BUT THE REALITY IS THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CURRENTLY ON THE STREET, THEY'RE NOT INTERESTED IN IT. SO THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER CONVERSATION.

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YES. YEAH. THANK YOU. AND AGAIN, I'M NOT GOING TO BELABOR THESE POINTS.

I WROTE DOWN HERE I'M MILDLY OPTIMISTIC ABOUT IT.

BUT THE TIMELINE DISCOURAGES ME. AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS I THINK WE'RE EXPECTED TO COME TO, TO VOTE ON THIS IN OCTOBER, BUT A LOT OF THE, THE THINGS THAT WILL DEFINE WHAT THIS LOOKS LIKE INTO THE STRATEGIES WON'T HAPPEN UNTIL AFTER THE FACT. SO I'M JUST GOING TO ASK THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY INDEX, WHAT IS THAT EXACTLY? SO THAT'S THE WHOLE FRAMEWORK THAT WAS ADOPTED. THAT'S THE THE FIVE DOMAINS, THE DIFFERENT DRIVERS THAT GO INTO THAT.

IT'S THE OVERARCHING STRATEGY FOR HOW WE LOOK AT IMPACT FOR THE CITY.

AND WE HAVE AN UPCOMING MEMO TO QUALITY OF LIFE ON AN UPDATE ON DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY COMING.

AND THAT'S THAT WILL BE READY BY DECEMBER OF 26.

CORRECT. OR IS THAT WHAT I SAW? DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY WAS APPROVED IN DECEMBER OF 2025.

BUT THE CONTINUAL BUILD OUT AND LIKE LOOKING AT SOME OF THE, THAT THAT PARTICULAR INDEX, IT'S CONTINUAL, IT'S, IT'S ITERATIVE. IT, IT'S ONE OF THOSE FRAMEWORKS THAT NEVER STOPS.

IT'S NOT ONE THAT WE JUST HAVE DONE. AND THEN IT'S NEVER LOOKED AT AGAIN. IT CONTINUES TO APPROACH EACH DIFFERENT DEPARTMENT AND LOOK AT ALL THE DIFFERENT MEASURES OF SUCCESS AND THE TARGET AREA AND HOUSING INNOVATION AREA DESIGN.

WHAT IS THAT? YEAH. SO THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO USE OUR DATA AND OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL AND THE FOCUS GROUPS TO REALLY DRIVE IN LIKE, WHAT IS THIS AREA OF THE CITY NEED? WE DON'T BELIEVE IT NEEDS JUST MORE DEEP AFFORDABILITY.

IT MIGHT NEED HOMEOWNERSHIP OR THIS AREA WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF OWNERSHIP AND GREAT SCHOOLS AND RESOURCES. WE MIGHT NEED TO BRING IN A RENTAL PRODUCT WHERE IT MAKES SENSE, RIGHT? SO WE HAVE TO THINK ABOUT THE DIFFERENT REGIONS OF OUR CITY AND, AND HOW TO SPREAD OUT THE DIFFERENT OPTIONS FOR HOUSING TYPOLOGIES AND AFFORDABLE OPPORTUNITIES ACROSS THE CITY, ACKNOWLEDGING WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE.

SO THAT WILL BE DONE THROUGH KIND OF COMMUNITY OUTREACH. IS THAT WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING? WE WE'VE ASKED EACH COUNCIL MEMBER IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE DOING COMMUNITY OUTREACH. SOME HAVE SAID, YES, WE'VE SCHEDULED SOME OF THOSE MEETINGS. SOME HAVE WANTED TO DO FOCUS GROUPS. SOME HAVE SAID, NO, THIS IS ALL THE SAME STUFF. YOU KNOW WHAT'S NEEDED IN THE CITY. GO WORK FASTER, GET THIS DONE.

SO THERE'S BEEN A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT RESPONSES IN THAT WORK.

AND REMIND ME, I THINK I SAID I WANTED TO OR DID I NOT? DID I SAY I WANTED TO DO. ALL RIGHT. GOOD. ALL RIGHT. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT.

SO THAT'S IT. SO HAVING ALL OF THESE PARAMETERS DEFINE AFTER THE FACT GIVES ME PAUSE AND GIVES MANY OF US PAUSE.

NOT NECESSARILY BECAUSE WELL, YEAH, IT IS BECAUSE OF THAT.

IT'S JUST BECAUSE OF HISTORY. RIGHT. SO THANK YOU.

I MEAN, LIKE WE HAVE HISTORICALLY PRESENTED POLICIES AND GOALS AND THEN DONE THE WORK TO REALLY PUT TOGETHER ALL THE DETAILS AND THE PLAN THAT IS MORE OF A LIVING DOCUMENT.

THE POLICY IS OUR SET GOALS AND STANDARDS OF LIKE THE GENERAL OVERARCHING THINGS THAT WE WANT TO DO FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS THAT HAS ALL BEEN BASED ON CONVERSATIONS WITH YOU ALL COLLECTIVELY. AND THEN WE, WE WORK TO LIKE UNPACK IT AND SHOW LIKE HOW THIS PROJECT STARTS TO ALIGN WITH IT OR DOESN'T.

AND WE CAN HAVE TRANSPARENCY AROUND THAT. WE'RE HAPPY TO SPEND MORE TIME ON THE FRONT END TO SHOW YOU MORE OF THAT STRATEGY.

AND THE METRICS AS ASKED FOR TODAY UNANIMOUSLY BY EVERYONE THAT COMES IN CONCERT WITH THAT POLICY DEVELOPMENT, SO THAT YOU SEE HOW IT IS BOTH A STRATEGY WITH TANGIBLE RESULTS AND TANGIBLE OPPORTUNITIES FOR WHAT WE DO, ALONG WITH THE THE OVERARCHING GOALS AND STRATEGIES.

AND I APPRECIATE ALL OF THAT. AND AGAIN, THIS IS THIS IS NO ACCUSATIONS OR ANYTHING.

THIS IS JUST STRICTLY FACTS. WE'VE BEEN DANCING AROUND THIS DATA.

WE'VE BEEN DANCING AROUND THIS HOUSING SHORTAGES.

WE'VE BEEN DANCING AROUND ALL OF THIS FOR A VERY LONG TIME.

AND, AND FOR ME, WHO IS A DATA DRIVEN PERSON, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD ALREADY HAVE IT SO THAT WE CAN BE MOVING TOWARDS THIS.

AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE, OKAY, HERE'S THIS NEW THING THAT WE'RE RESETTING.

WE'RE BRINGING EVERYTHING TOGETHER, WHICH I COMPLETELY AGREE WITH, BUT IT'S ALMOST LIKE WE'RE USING THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO NOW RESET EVERYTHING VERSUS TAKING WHAT WE'VE ALREADY BEEN COMPILING. AND I GUESS TO WHAT THE CHAIR SAID, A BASE.

THANK YOU. SO WELL PUT. SO THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT IS.

SO THAT'S WHERE THE DISCOURAGEMENT COMES IN IN IN THAT THIS IS ALL GREAT.

IT SOUNDS GREAT. AND I'M ENCOURAGED A LITTLE BIT, BUT THE DATA THAT WE'VE BEEN DANCING AROUND, WE ALL KNOW, ISN'T NECESSARILY HERE FOR US TO SAY, YAY.

AND I THINK BY OCTOBER, I FEEL LIKE WE SHOULD HAVE SOMETHING THAT WE CAN MAKE A DECISION ON.

SO I'LL STOP THAT BECAUSE THAT POINT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE.

THANK YOU FOR THAT. I JUST WANT TO MAKE ONE POINT IS LIKE THE DATA WAS IN HEAVY DATA WAS IN THE LAST PRESENTATIONS.

IT WAS HEAVY IN THE APRIL BRIEFING. AND SO THIS IS AN UPDATE.

WE DIDN'T WANT TO RESTATE ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE ALREADY BRIEFED ON. WE WANTED TO GET RIGHT TO THE HEART OF THE UPDATE AND SHOW YOU WHERE WE ARE AT. BUT IF HELPFUL, I WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO INCLUDE THE DATA CONTINUE TO INCLUDE THOSE REPORTS AND APPENDIXES JUST BECAUSE IT'S BEEN A JOURNEY.

AND WE'RE AT THAT POINT WHERE I BELIEVE WE HAVE THE DATA, WE'VE HAD THE CONVERSATIONS. IT'S BEEN INFORMED THAT THE STRATEGIES NOW HAVE BEEN

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AND SO HAPPY TO HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT. OKAY. AND THEN JUST ONE MORE, A FEW MORE, REALLY TWO MORE.

I GUESS I'M CURIOUS TO SEE LIKE ON WE SHOW DATA THAT SHOWS 28,000 RENTERS COULD BE HOMEOWNERS.

AND I KNOW I REFERENCED ON SLIDE 18 THE CONVERSION.

MY FIRST QUESTION IS, DOES THIS PLAN ESSENTIALLY INTEND TO PRESERVE EXISTING LOW INCOME DEVELOPMENTS? I WOULD SAY THAT THAT IS ONE OF OUR STRATEGIES AND THE PRESERVATION CATEGORY.

OKAY. AND IF THAT'S THE CASE, ONE OF THE THINGS I WANTED TO DO IS FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD CONVERT SOME OF THOSE TO CONDOS.

AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY IN HERE, BUT I REALLY WANT TO BE ABLE TO SEE HOW WE CAN DO THAT BECAUSE AGAIN, CONVERTING THOSE CONDOS CREATES, IF THEY'RE ALREADY THERE, IT CREATES SOMETHING THAT'S CURRENTLY LIVING IN AND IT CREATES ANOTHER LAYER OF AFFORDABILITY THERE. AND IT'S I DON'T SEE IT CLEARLY DEFINED IN THIS.

I KNOW WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT THAT IN INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS, BUT I JUST WANT TO STRESS THE IMPORTANCE OF THAT.

BECAUSE RIGHT NOW, THE OTHER PIECE I'M CONCERNED ABOUT IS IF WE'RE PRESERVING THESE EXISTING LOW INCOMES, THE OTHER ELEMENT OF THAT IS THE POOR MANAGEMENT OF THESE PROPERTIES AND HOW THAT GETS ADDRESSED TO IN ALL OF THIS, BECAUSE PART OF IT IS WE PRESERVE IT AND IT'S POORLY MANAGED.

IT CHANGES NOTHING IN THE COMMUNITY. AND THEN AS WE TALK ABOUT THIS, HOW DO I, AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, OR HOW DO WE AS A COUNCIL MEMBERS LOOK AT THAT AND SAY, WE'RE GOING TO PUT MORE LOW TECH IN HERE IN THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, SEEMS LIKE THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN IS.

HOW DOES THAT BRING THE VALUE UP, I GUESS, HOW DOES THAT THE MARKET RATES WHEN I'M TALKING TO DEVELOPERS AND THEY'RE SAYING, WELL, THE COPS SAY THIS, THE COPS SAY THAT. HOW DO WE RECONCILE THAT? I MEAN, THAT'S A WHOLE OTHER BRIEFING. BUT BUT THE SHORT ANSWER IS WE, WE ARE NOT INVESTING IN LANDLORDS WHO HAVE SUBSTANDARD MANAGEMENT PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, AS WE BRING THINGS FORWARD FOR INCENTIVES, IT MIGHT BE A PARTNERSHIP WITH HFC TO DO YOU KNOW, A PROJECT OR A PFC TO DO A PURCHASE REHAB. THE MODERN STANDARDS OF THE INVESTMENTS IN BOTH THOSE CORPORATIONS REQUIRE TOP NOTCH PROPERTY MANAGEMENT.

OTHERWISE THEY'RE GOING TO FALTER ON THEIR LOANS AND THAT PROJECT'S GOING TO FALL APART. THE HISTORIC PROPERTIES DID NOT HAVE THE SAME SORT OF COMPLIANCE OR MAYBE REGULATIONS IN PLACE AS THEY AGE ON THOSE PROPERTIES. BUT THE NEW ONES THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN ARE COMPLETELY DIFFERENT.

AND THAT'S NOT TO MEAN THAT THERE'S NOT STILL AN OCCASIONAL ISSUE HERE AND THERE, SOME PROPERTIES THAT NEED THAT.

BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DO THROUGH THREE ONE, ONE REQUESTS OUR WORK WITH CODE, OUR WORK WITH COMMUNITY PROSECUTION.

SOME OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ARE WITH COMMUNITY PROSECUTION, AND THERE MIGHT BE RECEIVERSHIP OR OTHER WAYS TO GO AFTER SOME OF THE ISSUES AND CHANGE WHAT HAS HISTORICALLY BEEN A NUISANCE TO SOMETHING THAT IS MORE SUPPORTIVE OF THE COMMUNITY.

SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STRATEGIES THERE. IT'S SOMETIMES THAT IS VERY PROJECT SPECIFIC RATHER THAN CITYWIDE STRATEGY.

BUT I THINK THROUGH OUR PRESERVATION ARM, WE CAN LIST OUT SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES TO BOTH DO ASSESSMENTS AND COMMUNITY HEALTH LOOKS AND MAKE SURE IT'S THE RIGHT INVESTMENT TO PRESERVE. BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE MAIN THING WE WANT TO DO IS NOT START TO LOSE THE AFFORDABLE UNITS THAT WE HAVE THAT ARE DEED RESTRICTED.

BECAUSE ONCE WE START LOSING THOSE AND WE LOSE THE NATURALLY OCCURRING ONES, THEN WE START TO HAVE A MORE COMPLEX HOUSING PROBLEM.

OKAY. AND THEN THE LAST THING I'LL SAY IS JUST CITYWIDE.

THE OTHER THING I WANT TO SEE THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT I SAW IN THIS IS A PLAN FOR A CONCENTRATION CAMP.

I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN SAY THAT IF IF THAT'S WHATEVER. BUT IN TERMS OF.

SO EVERYTHING IS ALL PROJECTS FOR LIGHT TECH ARE APPROVED.

ARE REVIEWED BY OUR FAIR HOUSING DIVISION. WE HAVE A FAIR HOUSING ASSESSMENT.

LET ME FOR THE RECORD, I'M SORRY. LET ME MAKE THIS VERY CLEAR.

CONCENTRATION CAP CAPI UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.

I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU WE WE HIGHLIGHT OUR FAIR HOUSING AND I JUST.

YEAH. NO VERY CLEAR. THAT'S WHAT I MEANT. AND WHAT I'M WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT IS AGAIN, WE'VE ALREADY REFERENCED THE NUMBER OF EXISTING TECH PROPERTIES THAT ARE IN THE AREA. AND AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, I DON'T WANT THAT TO BE A CONTINUING PROBLEM WHERE IT PREVENTS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT.

AND I GUESS THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TOO, IS THE ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT EVEN SOME OF OUR FCS AND HFC PROJECTS HAVE HAD ON THE DISTRICT. BECAUSE THE OTHER ISSUE I'M FACING EVEN NOW IS I HAVE A COMPLETED PFC PROJECT IS DOING WELL.

BUT NOW I HAVE ANOTHER DEVELOPER SAYING, OH WELL, THE COPS WON'T DO IT, SO WE HAVE TO DO ANOTHER LIE TECH RIGHT NEXT TO IT.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND THE SCIENCE BEHIND THAT. SO THESE ARE THE TYPE OF THINGS THAT WE'RE FACING AND THAT ECONOMIC IMPACT IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT.

SO THANK YOU. CHAIR MORENO FOR BRINGING THAT UP.

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COUNCILMEMBER WEST, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU'D LIKE TO ADD ON THIS ONE? THANK YOU, CHAIR, FOR ALLOWING ME, AND I'LL TRY TO BE SOMEWHAT QUICK. I JUST HAVE I HAVE A FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION FOR YOU GUYS.

WHO IN THIS CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ENSURING THAT WE HAVE THE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING WE NEED TO MEET THE GROWING DEMAND? I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S ONE ENTITY, BUT WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS, I BELIEVE THAT'S THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT THAT HAS BEEN TASKED WITH THAT, LOOKING AT THE DATA, OUR NEEDS AND OUR INVESTMENT STRATEGIES.

WHO ULTIMATELY SET BY COUNCIL POLICY, WHO IS BRINGING TOGETHER THE.

YOUR DEPARTMENT WITH ALL OF THESE OTHER VARIOUS ENTITIES THAT YOU SORT OF REFERENCE COULD ALSO BE RESPONSIBLE.

SO WE OFTEN TAKE THE LEAD ON THE COLLABORATIONS AND THE CONVENINGS.

I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S THE FRUSTRATION THAT I'VE HAD FOR SEVEN YEARS WITH THE, THE PRESENTATIONS WE GET FROM HOUSING PRIOR TO YOUR LEADERSHIP AND EVEN NOW. AND I THINK A LOT OF MY COLLEAGUES IS LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE FRUSTRATION AND THE DATA AND JUST CONTINUING TO HEAR ABOUT THE PILLARS AND, AND EVERYTHING. WHEREAS LIKE, WE KNOW WE HAVE THIS COMING WAVE OF PEOPLE MOVING INTO DALLAS, WE KNOW FROM THE DATA THAT WE'VE GOT TO MEET CERTAIN THRESHOLDS SOON.

AND, YOU KNOW, WHEN I SEE THESE PRESENTATIONS, WE WE DON'T REALLY EVEN REFERENCE EXTERNAL PARTNERS LIKE LISK AND LIKE WHAT, WHAT'S LISK DOING? WHAT IS TREC DOING? WHAT'S BEING DONE BY THESE EXTERNAL PARTNERS? I FEEL LIKE DALLAS HAS GOT TO TAKE MORE OF A LEAD ON REPORTING ALL OF THE DATA, BECAUSE NOBODY ELSE IS DOING IT.

YEAH. THANK YOU. WHEN WE CREATE A POLICY DOCUMENT LIKE THIS, WE, WE, WE TYPICALLY ABSTAIN FROM LISTING ANYBODY EXTERNAL AS THOSE AGENCIES MIGHT CHANGE OR THEIR INVESTMENT MIGHT CHANGE.

THIS IS A GUIDING DOCUMENT FROM COUNCIL SAYING, WE NEED YOU TO GO PRESERVE AND PRODUCE AND DATA INFORM AND HAVE THE PARTNERS.

WHAT FOLLOWS IS LIKE WHAT WE DID WITH THE HOUSING POLICY 33 IS WE HAD THE ACTION PLAN THAT LISTED OUT ALL THE PARTNERS LISTED, WHAT PEOPLE WERE DOING, LISTED MORE OF OUR YEAR OVER YEAR YOU KNOW, IMPLEMENTATION STRATEGY THAT REPORT OUT IN, BUT I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE TO BUILD THAT PARTNERSHIP NETWORK OUT AND PRESENT IT TO YOU TO SHOW WHAT EVERYONE'S DOING BECAUSE THE ECOSYSTEM IS REALLY HEALTHY RIGHT NOW.

THERE ARE A LOT OF CONTRIBUTORS DOING REALLY GREAT WORK.

WE HAVE REALLY STRONG EXTERNAL DATA PARTNERS. FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE HAVE HOUSING ADVOCATES THAT ARE GROWING IN NUMBERS, AND WE HAVE A LOT OF DEVELOPERS WHO ARE PRODUCING AFFORDABLE HOUSING ON THEIR OWN WITHOUT INCENTIVES, AS WELL AS ALL THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL SEE ON A DAILY BASIS.

SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I THINK OUR STRENGTH IS REALLY IN OUR EXTERNAL PARTNERS WORKING WITH US, AND TO THE EXTENT WE CAN START BRINGING THEIR INFORMATION IN, THAT WOULD BE BE HELPFUL.

AND THEN JUST ONE MORE QUESTION ON SLIDE EIGHT.

YOU MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE HAVING DEVELOPER FOCUS GROUPS.

CAN YOU ELABORATE ON HOW DEVELOPERS ASSESSMENT OF OUR HOUSING PROGRAMS, POSITIVES AND NEGATIVES WILL BE INCORPORATED INTO DALLAS HOME? YEAH. SO I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.

THIS, THIS IS SORT OF SOMETHING THAT HAS ALREADY STARTED, RIGHT? FIRST, STARTING WITH THOSE DEVELOPERS THAT WE HAVE CURRENT CONTRACTS WITH.

THERE IS EFFORTS TO CREATE SORT OF A KITCHEN CABINET TO GLEAN AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN FROM DEVELOPERS WHO HAVE GONE THROUGH THE PROCESS OF GETTING DEALS APPROVED LOOKING AT NOT ONLY JUST PROGRAMMATIC INPUT, BUT ALSO OPERATIONAL INPUT ON HOW WE CAN REFINE THOSE PROCESSES.

AND SO I THINK HAVING A DEVELOPER IN THE OFFICE, I THINK IT, IT, IT HELPS A LOT.

AS YOU KNOW, DEVELOPERS LIKE BARRETT LINDBERG, WHO'S BEEN INSTRUMENTAL IN SOME OF OUR CRISIS SITUATIONS, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM ON WHAT POLICIES OR PROGRAMS HE, HE BELIEVES WOULD MAKE HIS LINE OF BUSINESS EASIER.

BUT THE TRUTH OF THE MATTER IS, IS THAT WE NEED THOSE PRIVATE DEVELOPERS AT THE TABLE.

AND WE'RE GOING TO BE GLEANING AS MUCH AS WE CAN FROM THEM THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS, EVEN AFTER THE POLICY IS APPROVED.

THANK YOU. AND I'LL JUST SAY, CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU WERE THE FIRST HOUSING CHAIR IN 2019 WHEN MANY OF US WERE ELECTED.

CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU WERE AFTER. AND SO I APPRECIATE, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT EVEN ON THE COMMITTEE.

I APPRECIATE YOU STILL COMING. I KNOW THIS IS A PASSION FOR YOU.

SO THESE ARE MY THREE COMMENTS FOR YOU. FIRST, THE TIMELINE YOU HAVE FOR THIS PLAN IS THE STAFF TIMELINE.

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WE CAN CONSIDER THIS ITEM WHEN WE'RE GOOD AND READY AND WE HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION WE WANT.

AND I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE MANY TIMES THAT THE COUNCIL SEEMS TO BE FOLLOWING THE ORDERS OF STAFF, AND YOU HAVE FORGOTTEN THAT WE ARE THE POLICY MAKERS, SO WE WILL GET ALL THE INFORMATION WE WANT BEFORE THIS IS CONSIDERED.

I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD THINGS IN HERE, AND THE MOST IMPORTANT THING IS IT IS WRAPPING UP A LOT OF THESE CONVERSATIONS DATA INTO ONE PLACE THAT WE CAN LOOK TO AND CONTINUE TO MONITOR.

BUT WE DO NEED MORE THAN JUST PRETTY WORDS. AND SO WE'LL BRING IT BACK NEXT MONTH.

I'M LOOKING FOR A MEANINGFUL FRAMEWORK FOR REPORTING.

AND WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO SHOW, BECAUSE THIS IS A THREE YEAR PLAN, RIGHT? YOU'RE TRYING TO DO THIS BY 2030. I THINK IT'S, IT'S, IT'LL BE A FIVE YEAR PLAN WHEN ADOPTED SO THAT WE HAVE A FULL FIVE YEARS TO DEVELOP IT. YOUR GOAL IS FOR THREE YEARS. WHAT I'D LIKE YOU TO DO WHEN YOU BRING THIS NEXT MONTH IS SHOW US THE PRODUCTION THAT'S HAPPENED OVER THE LAST THREE MONTHS. WHAT WOULD THIS HAVE LOOKED LIKE THREE YEARS FROM NOW, BASED ON WHAT'S JUST HAPPENED THESE LAST THREE YEARS? AND HOW MUCH OF THIS HAS HOW MANY HOUSING UNITS HAVE BEEN BUILT BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR, BY THE NONPROFIT SECTOR? HOW MANY HAVE BEEN AFFORDABLE? HOW MANY HAVE BEEN MARKET? I THINK WHAT WE'RE GOING TO SEE IS THAT THE MARKET'S WORKING REALLY WELL.

AND OUR GOAL IN A POLICY STANCE AS GOVERNMENT IS TO MAKE SURE THE PLACES WHERE THE MARKET CAN'T OPERATE, EITHER BECAUSE OF AFFORDABILITY ISSUES OR THEY'RE JUST NOT DESIRABLE UNITS FOR THEM, THAT THAT'S WHERE WE STEP IN.

AND INSTEAD OF US TRYING TO SOLVE ALL THE HOUSING PROBLEMS OR CHALLENGES IN DALLAS THAT WE FOCUS ON THE ONES THAT ARE UNIQUELY ABLE TO BE INFLUENCED BY GOVERNMENT. AND SO HOPEFULLY, THE REPORT YOU'RE GOING TO BRING TO US WILL HELP US SEE THAT PERSPECTIVE OF, HERE'S THE WHOLE HOUSING MARKET. BUT HERE'S THE PART THAT WE NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON.

AND, YOU KNOW, I VERY OFTEN TALK ABOUT MY INTEREST IS IN AFFORDABILITY LEVELS AND HITTING THOSE VERY LOWEST LEVELS, BECAUSE NOBODY IS INTERESTED IN DOING 30 AND 50% UNLESS THERE'S HELP FROM GOVERNMENT.

AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE SHOULD BE OPERATING. AND THIS IDEA OF TRYING TO FUND THINGS THAT ARE OVER MARKET IS JUST ABSOLUTELY SHOCKING TO ME THAT WE WOULD TAX PEOPLE AT A LOWER LETTER THAT ARE ON A LOWER INCOME LEVEL, BECAUSE NOT EVERYONE'S AT MARKET, RIGHT, THAT ARE AT A LOWER LEVEL TO SUBSIDIZE PEOPLE WHO EARN MORE THAN THEM.

AND THAT'S WHAT I KEEP GOING BACK TO WITH A LOT OF THINGS LIKE THE PFC, WE'RE GOING TO TAX PEOPLE WHO LIVE WITH A BROKEN FORMICA KITCHEN COUNTERTOP SO THAT WE CAN PUT IN GRANITE COUNTERTOPS FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING.

AND THAT'S JUST OUTRAGEOUS. WE SHOULD BE DOING.

I MEAN, GOVERNMENT SHOULDN'T BE DOING HIGH END HOUSING AND LUXURY ITEMS LIKE A GRANITE COUNTERTOP.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, AND I HOPE THAT YOUR REPORT WILL GIVE US ALL THAT DATA.

I THINK IF YOU LISTEN CLOSELY TO WHAT EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEMBER SAID, WE'RE BASICALLY ALL SAYING THE SAME THING IN OUR OWN UNIQUE WAY.

AND WHAT'S REALLY GOOD IS WE'RE NOT ALWAYS ON THE SAME PAGE, BUT YOU HAVE A GROUP THAT'S ACTUALLY LEARNED A LOT ABOUT HOUSING OVER THESE YEARS AND HAS AN IDEA OF US WANTING TO MAKE A BIG DIFFERENCE.

AND SO I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU.

THIS ITEM WILL BE BACK ON NEXT MONTH. WE'LL ALSO HAVE SOME SORT OF BRIEFING FOR WHOEVER I CAN GET TO DO IT.

ON THEIR IDEAS ABOUT THE FUTURE OF THE BRIDGE.

COUNCIL MEMBER. BAZALDUA. AND YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WEST BROUGHT UP THE LIST.

AND ALSO IN PLANNING FOR THIS MEETING WE TALKED ABOUT NEXT MONTH, HAVING A BRIEFING THAT TALKS ABOUT ALL THE AVAILABLE RESOURCES TO DEVELOP AFFORDABLE HOUSING. WE SEEM TO ONLY HAVE A GO TO OF HFC, PFC, AND THERE ARE OTHER FUNDING SOURCES AND STRUCTURES THAT ALLOW FOR US TO PROMOTE DEVELOPMENT TOOLS. AND WHETHER WE'RE NOT PROMOTING IT AS A CITY OR DEVELOPERS AREN'T AWARE OF IT, OR WE'RE JUST NOT AWARE THAT THESE ARE HAPPENING, BUT THEY'RE NOT COMING BEFORE US.

WE NEED TO BE MORE IN TUNE WITH ALL OF THOSE DIFFERENT OPPORTUNITIES, WHICH I KNOW IN THE PAST I HAVE READ OFF OVER AND OVER AGAIN.

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THERE'S SOME VERY GOOD ITEMS IN HERE. THANK YOU FOR THAT PRESENTATION.

SO ITEM B IS THE DALLAS STREET RESPONSE MONTHLY OUTCOMES REPORT.

DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT ITEM.

COUNCIL MEMBER. MORENO. THANK YOU CHAIR. SO I'M JUST GOING TO READ THE FIRST LINE ON DALLAS STREET RESPONSE IS A COMPREHENSIVE AND COORDINATED APPROACH TO ENHANCING PUBLIC SAFETY AND HEALTH THROUGH PROACTIVE ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION.

AND SO AS I MENTIONED EARLIER TODAY WE'VE LOST A NUMBER OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS THAT I KNOW OF BOTH AT A PARK AND UNDERNEATH AN UNDERPASS. AND SO THOSE ARE TWO OF THE 4 OR 5 VARIOUS LOCATIONS THAT WE FOLLOW ON ENCAMPMENT LOCATION TYPES. AND SO JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING.

AS WE ALL KNOW, THE HOTTEST PART OF THE DAY OR DURING THOSE BUSINESS HOURS WHILE WE HAVE THOSE COOLING CENTERS OPEN.

AND SO WHAT ARE WE DOING? OF COURSE WE YOU KNOW, I WANT TO ADDRESS ENCAMPMENT CLEANUPS, BUT RIGHT NOW, DURING THESE ELEVATED TEMPERATURES, OUR FOCUS SHOULD AND MUST BE ON THOSE INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

HOWEVER, STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY WHEN IT'S 107 DEGREES OUTSIDE, WE'RE SEEING FOLKS OUTSIDE WHERE IT'S VERY DANGEROUS.

SO DURING THE BUSINESS HOURS WHEN WE HAVE THESE COOLING CENTERS OPEN, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENCOURAGE TRANSPORT INDIVIDUALS TO KEEP THEM SAFE? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION.

ANDREW ROLLO, MANAGER WITH THE OFFICE OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE.

SO WE HAVE OUR OUTREACH TEAMS THAT ARE OUT THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE CITY ON A DAILY BASIS RESPONDING TO SERVICE REQUESTS, PROACTIVELY ENGAGING WITH INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, TRYING TO GET THEM TO WHERE THEY NEED TO GO, TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS TO GET HELP.

AND SO THROUGH THAT ENGAGEMENT, OUR TEAMS ARE ASSESSING WHAT THE NEEDS OF THAT PERSON ARE.

AND IF THEY'RE WILLING AND ABLE TO GO, WE WILL TRANSPORT THEM.

SO WE DO HAVE TRANSPORT TEAMS. WE HAVE TRANSPORT VANS THAT WILL TAKE INDIVIDUALS TO COOLING CENTERS, SHELTER TO CONNECT THEM WITH THE SERVICES THAT THEY MAY NEED.

AND I JUST WANT TO ADD ALSO, SO OUTSIDE OF DALLAS STREET RESPONSE, WE ALSO HAVE THE MEDIC PROGRAM, WHICH PARTNERS A CRISIS INTERVENTION WORKER WITH A DALLAS FIRE RESCUE PARAMEDIC.

I BELIEVE THE NUMBER FOR JULY OF CALLS ANSWERED, WHICH THEY FOCUS PRIMARILY ON INJURED PERSONS AND WELFARE CHECKS, OF WHICH WE GET SEVERAL THAT INVOLVE THE UNSHELTERED COMMUNITY.

I BELIEVE THE NUMBER FOR JULY WAS 791 CALLS ANSWERED AMONGST THOSE FIVE TEAMS. AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE RIGHT CARE PROGRAM, WHICH DEALS KIND OF LESS WITH, WITH UNSHELTERED.

BUT THEY'RE ALSO EQUIPPED TO CONNECT WITH ANY OF OUR UNSHELTERED OFFER SERVICES.

AND THEN IF TRANSPORT IS DESIRED TO TRANSPORT TO LOCATIONS.

SO IT'S NOT JUST THIS TEAM MULTIPLES OF OUR TEAMS, INCLUDING OUR JUST DALLAS FIRE RESCUE OR DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT ARE ALSO SERVING THE UNSHELTERED TO GET THEM INTO TO ANY NUMBER OF SERVICES.

THANK YOU. I MEAN, IT'S ENCOURAGING TO HEAR THAT.

I GUESS, YOU KNOW, MY FRUSTRATION IS THAT WE'RE STILL NOT GETTING PEOPLE INTO A COOLING CENTER.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHAT ELSE WE CAN DO TO. ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO GET IN.

I MEAN, I KNOW THAT THE LOCATIONS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, WE'VE HAD CALLS IN THREE.

ONE ONE'S ON AN ENCAMPMENT THERE. AND SO WE WE DO KNOW WHERE THESE FOLKS ARE.

I JUST WHAT ELSE? WHAT DO YOU NEED? WHAT TOOLS DO WE NEED IN ORDER TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO SEEK REFUGE FROM THIS TEXAS HEAT? SO THE THE FIRST THING I'D SAY IS WE DON'T JUST SAY, DO YOU WANT TO GO TO SHELTER? DO YOU WANT TO GO TO THE LIBRARY? NO. AND THEN MOVE ON.

WE'VE EQUIPPED OUR STAFF WITH KEVIN. CAN YOU MOVE THAT MICROPHONE RIGHT IN FRONT OF YOU? YES, MA'AM. APOLOGIES. I'M USUALLY NOT ACCUSED OF BEING TOO QUIET.

WE'VE ALSO EQUIPPED OUR TEAMS WITH WATER BOTTLES OF WATER THAT WE DISTRIBUTE.

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EXPOUND ON ANY OF THAT, BUT I THINK THAT THE MAIN THING IS JUST A CONTINUATION OF THE PROCESS THAT THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS SUPPORTED AND DONE.

RIGHT. SO THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION IN IN ITEM A ABOUT SHELTER BEDS.

I WOULD SAY ONE OF THE GREAT THINGS THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS DONE IS, IS FUND THE $10 MILLION IN THIS BUDGET WHERE HOUSING FORD HAS KIND OF MOVED TO HOUSING PEOPLE OUT OF THE SHELTER. ONCE A PERSON'S HOUSED OUT OF A SHELTER, THAT OPENS UP A BED THAT I CAN GET PEOPLE IN, ULTIMATELY, THAT CHANGES THE MINDSET ON THE STREET, RIGHT? IF SOMEBODY KNOWS I GO TO SHELTER AND THIS IS MY OUTCOME TO GET OUT OF THERE, THAT'S THE BEHAVIOR CHANGE THAT THAT REALLY WE, WE WANT TO SEE. AND THAT'S THE CARROT WE NEED FOR THE SHELTERS TO HAVE.

SO THAT CONTINUATION OF, OF WHAT IS WORKING CONTINUATION OF, OF OUR STAFF BEING ABLE TO PROVIDE SUPPORT IN THE, IN THE FIELD AS WELL AS OUTREACH. I MEAN, THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT I WOULD ADVOCATE THAT WE, WE CONTINUE TO. DO YOU WANT TO? YEAH. AND I'LL ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, KEVIN MENTIONED PASSING OUT WATER.

AND SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE INVEST IN, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOT SUMMER MONTHS.

AND SO WE MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AND THAT'S ON THE STREET IN THEIR SITUATIONS.

AND WE TRY TO BUILD THAT TRUST TO GET THEM TO A COOLING CENTER OR SHELTER.

AND SOMETIMES THAT'S A CHALLENGE. WE CAN'T FORCE SOMEONE TO GO TO A COOLING SHELTER OR A COOLING STATION OR ENTER A SHELTER.

BUT THROUGH THAT CONSTANT ENGAGEMENT THAT THAT'S WHAT OUR TEAM IS TRYING TO DO.

THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREET. THANK YOU.

SO, I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE YES. RAPID REHOUSING.

YES. ADDITIONAL SHELTER BEDS. BUT THERE'S ALSO THAT IMMEDIATE NEED FOR FOR TODAY, FOR RIGHT NOW AND GETTING PEOPLE IN, IN SHELTER IN A COOLING CENTER DURING THE DAY.

ARE WE LETTING FOLKS KNOW THE DANGERS OF STAYING OUTSIDE AND THAT PEOPLE ARE PASSING AWAY? SO I WOULD SAY, YES, WE ARE. WE'RE HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE.

AND AGAIN, IT'S TRYING TO CONVINCE PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED TO CONNECT HIM WITH THOSE, THOSE RESOURCES THAT ARE OUT THERE.

AND THERE ARE A LOT OF RESOURCES. AND SO THAT'S OUR ULTIMATE GOAL.

AND I'LL JUST ADD TOO, SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR OUTCOME NUMBERS, SO ON THE, ON THE RIGHT NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENTS OUR TEAM'S FIELD NUMBER OF ENGAGEMENTS WITH INDIVIDUALS HAS PEAKED IN JULY 1439. AND MANY OF THOSE ARE AS A RESULT OF US GOING OUT, DOING MORE PROACTIVE ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH TO TRY TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS INTO SAFER SPACES DURING, DURING THESE MONTHS. THANK YOU. CHAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER.

BAZALDUA. YEAH I HAVE MORE OF A STATEMENT THAN A QUESTION.

I HAVE BEEN WAITING TO SEE THERE BE MORE INTENT ON ADHERING TO WHAT WE BELIEVED TO BE THE STRATEGY, WHICH IS A COORDINATION WITH OUR HOUSING FORWARD PARTNERS, AND THAT SEEMS TO HAVE FALLEN BY THE WAYSIDE.

AND I THINK WITH THIS HOT TEAM AND A NEW APPROACH AND STRATEGY TO THE ENCAMPMENTS, IT'S BEEN DONE IN A VERY INHUMANE WAY SEVERAL TIMES WHERE THERE HAS NOT BEEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR RESOURCES TO BE PROVIDED.

THERE HAS NOT BEEN THE PRELIMINARY OUTREACH LEADING UP TO AND IN SEVERAL CASES, WE'VE ENDED UP WITH SOME OF OUR UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS IN ZIP TIES AND ON THE STREET AND BEING TREATED LIKE SECOND HAND.

I, I, THIS IS EXACTLY WHERE I DIDN'T WANT TO SEE OUR OUTREACH EFFORTS GO.

I UNDERSTAND Y'ALL WANT TO HIGHLIGHT AND FOCUS ON WHERE THERE ARE POSITIVES.

I THINK THAT WE KNOW THAT THERE'S GOING TO BE NEGATIVES WITH THE POSITIVES, BUT THE NEGATIVES SHOULDN'T BE PERPETUATED BY US.

AND SO IT'S REALLY FRUSTRATING WHEN I'M TOLD BY PEOPLE IN THE DISTRICT, WHENEVER I'M TOLD FROM PEOPLE WITH HOUSING FORWARD THAT THERE IS THERE HAS NOT BEEN THE COORDINATION THAT WE'VE BEEN PROMISED AS POLICY MAKERS.

I DID NOT SUPPORT FOR THIS TO BE A PUNITIVE APPROACH.

I DID NOT SUPPORT FOR THIS TO BE HANDED BACK TO DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.

AND FOR THEM TO HAVE AS AS INTEGRAL AS A ROLE IN THESE ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENTS.

SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU ALL ARE TOUTING SUCCESS, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT AS SUCCESS.

IF WE HAVE 1 OR 2 ENCAMPMENT SWEEPS THAT END IN THAT WAY, WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO HIGHLIGHT WHAT IS POSITIVE.

WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD, AND ONE THAT IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR AS MANY RESOURCES TO BE OFFERED AS POSSIBLE.

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WHEN I ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT ENCAMPMENTS. THAT THAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD FROM RESIDENTS ON THE WAY THAT IT WAS ABATED.

SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO INVEST IN EFFORTS THAT BRING OUT OF SIGHT, OUT OF MIND.

I THINK THAT THAT'S A LOT OF WHAT THIS COMMITTEE UNFORTUNATELY HAS KIND OF PUSHED TOWARDS.

BUT EVEN WHAT I HEAR MR. MORENO MENTION, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS, WE HAVE TO REMEMBER THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY, ESPECIALLY WITH THIS HEAT. THAT'S NOT THE, THE, THE APPROACH THAT I FEEL WITH THE ENCAMPMENT ABATEMENT AS OF LATE.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON RECORD. I DON'T, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR Y'ALL.

I'VE EXPRESSED THIS TO YOU ALL INDIVIDUALLY AS WELL.

BUT IT SEEMS THAT WE'RE GETTING MORE AND MORE AWAY FROM SOCIAL SERVICES AND AND TRYING TO COORDINATE WITH THE PARTNERS THAT WE HAVE CREATED ROBUST PARTNERSHIPS WITH AND PUT IT ALL INTO OUR OWN HANDS, WHICH HAS RESULTED INTO A MUCH MORE PUNITIVE APPROACH THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE IS FAIR.

IT DOESN'T HELP MITIGATE HOMELESSNESS. IT IS IS SOMETHING THAT IS JUST OVERALL COUNTERPRODUCTIVE.

SO I DON'T SEE JUST SUCCESS FROM THE NUMBERS THAT YOU ALL ARE GIVING US, UNFORTUNATELY, BECAUSE I CAN TELL YOU IN A MORE ANECDOTAL TESTIMONY THAT WHAT'S BEEN OCCURRING IN MY DISTRICT DURING THE ABATEMENTS HAS NOT BEEN WHAT I THOUGHT WE WERE SIGNING UP FOR.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR BLAIR.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. EXCUSE ME. I ONLY HAVE A FEW ITEMS, I THINK.

HOW HOW HOW DO WE CONTACT YOUR MEMBERS OR YOUR GROUP? YOUR ORGANIZATION? AFTER HOURS. ON WEEKENDS, I CONSISTENTLY SEE THE NEED YOUR NEED, A NEED FOR YOUR TEAM.

BUT I DON'T HAVE ANYONE TO CALL. I DON'T HAVE ANY.

I HAVE NO WAY TO GET HELP TO THOSE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE OUTSIDE AFTER HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS.

SO WE WE ARE SEVEN DAYS A WEEK. WE DO HAVE STAFF ON THE WEEKENDS.

SO THERE IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS ANY CONCERNS OR ANY, ANY PROBLEMS ON THE WEEKEND.

AND I THINK YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT AFTER HOURS.

SO NO, MY, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT AFTER HOURS AND WEEKENDS.

AND I'M IF I THINK IF I HAVE THE QUESTION I'M SURE THAT MANY OTHER OR SOME OF THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS MAY HAVE THE SAME QUESTIONS. OUR MEMBERS, OUR RESIDENTS, OUR CONSTITUENTS WILL CALL US WHEN THEY, WHEN THREE ONE, ONE DOESN'T SEEM TO OPERATE, ESPECIALLY AFTER HOURS AND ON WEEKENDS.

I'VE GOTTEN MANY OF THOSE CALLS THAT WE MAY THAT WE MAY.

GET SERVICES FOR OUR UNHOUSED RESIDENTS DURING THE HOURS OF 8 TO 5.

BUT WE CAN'T SEEM TO FIND THOSE SAME OPPORTUNITIES AFTER 8 TO 5, NO MATTER WHAT DAY OF THE WEEK IT IS.

YOU SAY YOU'RE 24 HOURS, BUT CAN YOU HELP US UNDERSTAND HOW THAT OPERATES? I RECOGNIZE WHAT WHAT WITH MISTER BAZALDUA SAID ABOUT GETTING HELP AND WHAT WHAT CHAIR MORENO SAID ABOUT GETTING HELP FOR INDIVIDUALS WHO NEED THEM AND NOT JUST PROVIDING DATA.

DATA IS GOOD, BUT I ALSO WANT TO WANT TO UNDERSTAND.

DO WE KNOW HOW MANY OF THE OF THOSE THAT ARE UNHOUSED, THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF OUR MUNICIPALITY THAT WE ARE CURRENTLY SUPPORTING BECAUSE OTHER MUNICIPALITIES CAN'T. I HAVE HAD OTHER LEADERS OF OTHER MUNICIPALITIES SAY THAT THEY DON'T HAVE THE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SERVE THEIR OWN. SO SOMEHOW THEY GET TO US. SO DO WE HAVE THOSE NUMBERS? AND IF SO, DO WE HAVE A PLAN AND A POLICY? THAT'S WHAT WE NEED IS A POLICY AS TO WHEN THOSE THINGS OCCUR.

HOW DO WE GET COMPENSATED OR WHAT, HOW DO WE PARTNER WITH THEM SO THAT IF THEY CAN'T HELP THEM AND WE CAN, HOW WE HOW THEY JOINTLY SUPPORT THE ASSISTANCE THAT WE PROVIDE? THANK YOU FOR THE FOR THE QUESTION. SO AT OUR LEVEL.

WE DON'T WE DON'T REALLY ASK OR INVESTIGATE, YOU KNOW, WHERE A PERSON MAY BE FROM OR HOW THEY GOT TO THE PLACE THEY'RE AT.

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INVEST IN THE HOMELESS MANAGEMENT INFORMATION SYSTEM, WHICH MAY PROVIDE YOU THAT DATA THAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR.

AND I'D BE HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATIONS AND THEN CONNECT WITH YOU ON MORE SPECIFICALLY HOW THAT DATA COULD BE PROVIDED.

I JUST, I DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S COLLATED THAT'S KIND OF OUTSIDE OF MY LANE, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO BE THAT CONNECTOR TO GET YOU THAT.

WELL, I DON'T WANT TO BE THE CONNECTOR THAT GETS IT TO ME.

I NEED IT TO BE RECEIVED BY EVERYBODY. SO EVERYBODY HAS THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES I HAVE.

I HAVE ACTUALLY HAD FRIENDS THAT HAVE BUSINESSES OUTSIDE OF MY DISTRICT CALL ME BECAUSE THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO AFTER HOURS.

I HAVE WORKED IN DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, GOT THE SERVICES THEY NEED, AND THEN PARTNERED WITH MY OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS TO MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND WHAT I GOT, WHAT I DID, AND LET THEM HANDLE THEIR DISTRICT.

I JUST I AND IF THAT WAS FOR ME AND THAT WAS ON A SUNDAY, THEN EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW HOW TO REACH SOMEONE ON THE WEEKENDS AND AFTER HOURS IN ORDER TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION DOES NOT EXPIRE UNNECESSARILY ON THE STREET WHEN WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN THEM SUPPORT.

THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY. WHERE IS HOW DO I GET TO THIS WEBSITE? I SEE THE REPORT. I WAS TRYING TO FIND THE LINK.

HOW DO I GET TO THAT? I'D BE, I'D BE HAPPY TO TO MEET WITH YOU AND CONNECT WITH YOU.

OKAY. SHOW YOU HOW, HOW YOU DO THAT. THIS IS A NEW TOOL.

SO WE WERE PROVIDING THIS IN KIND OF A WRITTEN NARRATIVE WHERE WE WERE TAKING NUMBERS, RUNNING THREE ONE ONES AND THEN PUTTING IT LINE BY LINE.

WE'VE BEEN FORTUNATE TO HAVE BEEN ABLE TO AUTOMATE SOME OF THOSE PROCESSES.

AND WHAT I'LL TELL THE COUNCIL IS THE DATA THIS THAT YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS WHAT WE BASE ALL OF OUR MORNING HUDDLES BASED ON.

SO OUR TEAM THAT FOCUSED IN EITHER THE NORTH, THE SOUTH EAST OR WEST, THEY MEET EVERY DAY.

THEY DRILL DOWN ON THIS. WHAT AREAS ARE WE SEEING INCREASES IN SERVICE REQUESTS? WHAT AREAS DID WE MAKE A POSITIVE INTERVENTION, LIKE GET SOMEONE INTO SHELTER OR SOMEWHERE ELSE.

AND SO THIS IS A VERY MUCH AN OPERATIONAL TOOL WE'RE USING.

I'D BE HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AND WALK YOU THROUGH THE SAME TO EVERYBODY.

THE SPECIFICS FOR YOUR DISTRICT. NO, I CAN DEFINITELY.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT LOOKS VERY SIMILAR TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY ONE, AND WE USE THAT QUITE A BIT.

OUR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE, AND THIS IS ANOTHER ONE THAT WE CAN INCORPORATE IN AS WE DRILL DOWN TO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE DISTRICT.

SO THANK YOU FOR THAT. LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. IF I CAN ASK YOU TO SEND A LINK TO THAT DASHBOARD TO THE FULL COUNCIL, MAYBE ON A FRIDAY MEMO, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL.

THANK YOU. AND I WANT TO ADD THAT THIS IS A RESULT OF ALL THE WORK THAT THE TEAMS ARE DOING IN THE FIELD.

SO AS THEY ARE RESPONDING TO SERVICE REQUESTS, DOING PROACTIVE WORK, THEY'RE CREATING WHAT WE CALL OUTREACH ASSESSMENTS AND CAPTURING ALL THE DATA. SO THE OUTREACH THAT WE'RE DOING, THE PEOPLE THAT WE'RE HELPING, THE ENGAGEMENTS, PEOPLE THAT ARE IN ENCAMPMENTS, THE PROPERTY TYPES.

THIS IS A RESULT OF THEM FILLING OUT THESE OUTREACH ASSESSMENTS AND CAPTURING THAT DATA.

AND I THINK THAT'S GOOD BECAUSE IT LETS US KNOW TO WHERE YOU'VE BEEN.

SO THAT AGAIN, IF WE WE KNOW THAT THERE'S SOME ACTIVITY HAPPENING.

I THINK THIS IS GOOD. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. SURE.

COUNCIL MEMBERS. DID YOU HAVE A. NO. AND NO. OKAY.

WELL, THE ONLY THING I'M GOING TO SAY IS THIS IS THAT I THINK THE INITIAL CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT THE LIFE AND DEATH HEAT THAT WE'RE DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW.

AND SO I JUST HOPE AS THE OUTREACH TEAMS ARE THERE, THAT THEY'RE EXPRESSING THAT URGENCY, THAT IT'S NOT JUST A REGULAR DAY, IT'S IT'S LIFE THREATENING DAY.

AND PROVIDING WATER IS GREAT. AND I KNOW YOU'RE TRANSPORTING PEOPLE, BUT BEING ABLE TO SHARE THAT THEY COULD GO SPEND THE DAY AT OUR CALLING AND MAYBE GET THEIR CLOTHES LAUNDERED, TAKE A SHOWER, LIKE ALL THOSE THINGS ARE AVAILABLE TO THEM, BUT ALSO IT WOULD ENSURE THEIR SURVIVAL.

IN THE, IN THE MEMO, WHEN YOU GIVE THE LINK TO THIS, PERHAPS YOU CAN JUST OUTLINE THE QUESTIONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR HAD WITH THIS IS WHAT WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO DO, AND WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY DONE THIS, BUT IT'S BEFORE SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WERE HERE THAT THE PROCESS IS YOU CALL 311 ON THE BACKSIDE. SALESFORCE IS SENDING THAT TO YOUR TEAM.

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ALL THOSE STEPS, IT MIGHT BE A TIME FOR REFRESHING THAT SO THAT FOLKS HAVE IT HANDY.

THERE'S A KEY ELEMENT THAT I KNOW I HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT FOR YEARS IS THAT THE SYSTEM, THE, THE HOUSING FORWARD SYSTEM CHANGED. AND PREVIOUSLY THERE WAS ALWAYS THE QUESTION OF WHERE DID YOU LIVE THE LAST TIME YOU HAD STABLE HOUSING? IT COULD HAVE BEEN DALLAS.

IT COULD HAVE BEEN ONE OF OUR SUBURBS. IT COULD HAVE BEEN OUT OF STATE, BUT THAT WAS TRACKED.

THAT WAS PART OF MY S. WE WERE ABLE TO PULL REPORTS AND WHAT WE COULD SEE WAS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WE SERVING THAT AREN'T FROM OUR AREA, THAT ARE FROM OUR AREA? ARE ARE THE HOMELESS MIGRATING TO DIFFERENT URBAN CENTERS? THIS WAS IMPORTANT INFORMATION THAT HELPED US MAKE POLICY DECISIONS AND IT WAS PURPOSELY REMOVED.

AND I UNDERSTAND WHY, BUT WE NEED THAT INFORMATION.

AND I WOULD SAY TO MY COLLEAGUES, WE SHOULD NOT APPROVE A SINGLE CONTRACT WITH ANY PROVIDER THAT WILL NOT ASK THAT INFORMATION AND INPUT IT INTO MY S. AND SO THAT MEANS WHEN WE HAVE TOMORROW THE BRIDGE CONTRACT, WE SHOULD REQUIRE IT.

THEY DO A LOT OF INTAKES RIGHT THERE AND THAT IS INFORMATION WE DESERVE TO KNOW.

AND IT ALSO WILL STRENGTHEN OUR ABILITY TO ADVOCATE FOR REGIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE.

WHEN WE KNOW THAT, LET'S SAY, HALF OF THE PEOPLE WE SERVE ARE NOT EVEN FROM DALLAS.

AND MAYBE HALF OR FROM OUR REGION, BUT NOT OUR CITY.

AND I'M SORRY, A QUARTER AND THEN ANOTHER QUARTER FROM OUT OF STATE.

WELL, IN BOTH CASES, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE STATE TO CARE FOR PEOPLE.

I WILL SAY, I THINK DALLAS IS WAY BETTER SITUATED TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE THE SERVICES.

BUT I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO OUR TAXPAYERS THAT WE JUST HELP EVERYBODY WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING.

AND WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY, I THINK, TO MAKE A GREAT CASE TO RECEIVE FUNDING FOR REGIONAL SERVICES, BUT NOT WHEN WE DON'T ASK THE QUESTION. AND, YOU KNOW, I UNDERSTAND SOMETIMES PEOPLE DON'T HAVE AN IDEA, BUT THEY KNOW WHERE THEY LIVED STABLY PREVIOUSLY, AND IT DOESN'T MEAN WE WON'T HELP THEM.

AND MAYBE THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID, BUT THIS HAD BEEN STANDARD PROCEDURE.

YOU COULD NOT GET SERVICES WITHOUT ANSWERING THAT QUESTION PREVIOUSLY.

AND SO I, I THINK THE ANSWER IS YOU DON'T GET THAT INFORMATION BECAUSE NOBODY'S ASKING IT.

IT DOESN'T IT'S NOT AVAILABLE, BUT IT'S NOT AVAILABLE.

SO WITH THAT, MAY I QUICKLY JUST 30S ADDRESS COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR'S QUESTION.

SO WE DO HAVE 24 HOUR, SEVEN DAY A WEEK ABILITY TO HELP THE UNSHELTERED.

RIGHT. WE ANSWER UP TO 25 ISH THOUSAND WELFARE CHECKS THROUGH DALLAS FIRE RESCUE EVERY YEAR.

AND WE HAVE TEAMS ON THE GROUND, LIKE YOU'VE HEARD, DALLAS STREET RESPONSE IS, IS MORE OF A DAY TO EARLY EVENING.

THAT'S THE WAY WE'RE STRUCTURED. THAT'S THE STAFFING I'VE GOT AND HOW WE OPERATE. HOWEVER, WE DO OPERATE OTHER CRISIS RESPONSE TEAMS THAT DO OPERATE 24 HOURS A DAY, SEVEN DAYS A WEEK ON HOLIDAYS.

AND, AND ANY OTHER DAY IN BETWEEN THE SIMPLE STANDARD I WOULD OFFER.

IS A PERSON A DANGER TO THEMSELVES OR TO OTHERS? IF IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM YOU THINK IT'S A YES, THAT'S A 911 CALL.

WE CAN MAKE SURE AT THE 911 CENTER, THOSE CALLS ARE ROUTED TO OUR CRISIS RESPONSE TEAMS, WHERE I'M NOT TYING UP 4 OR 5 OFFICERS ON A CALL WHERE IT MAY JUST BE A PERSON THAT'S THAT'S LAID OUT AND NEEDS A MEDIC TO LOOK AT THEM.

WE MAKE THAT HAPPEN. IF YOU'RE USING THREE ONE, ONE, UNDERSTAND THAT THE STANDARD SERVICE TIME WE HAVE TO COMPLETE AN ENCAMPMENT IS 21 DAYS, 21 DAYS. WHAT I'M PROUD OF, WHAT OUR TEAM IS, IS NAILING IS IN THE TOP LEFT OF THE DASHBOARD.

OUR STANDARD IS TO GET OUR ASSESSMENTS DONE AND TO START THE PROCESS WITHIN FIVE DAYS.

I'D LIKE TO BE AT 80% OF ALL SRS RECEIVED ADDRESSED WITHIN FIVE DAYS.

IN JUNE, I'M LOOKING AT 74%. SO WHAT I HAVE 21 DAYS TO DO.

WE'RE HUSTLING TO GET TO IN FIVE DAYS. THAT INCLUDES PROVIDING OUTREACH AND SERVICES, BUT THAT IS NOT AN INSTANT EMERGENCY RESPONSE TOOL FOR 311. WE DO HAVE THAT AVAILABLE, HOWEVER, AND AS THE CHAIR SAID, WE'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE MORE WRITTEN ON WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. OKAY. WELL, SINCE YOU WERE RESPONDING TO HER, SHE WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND ONE MORE THING TO YOU AND THEN I'LL DO IT.

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BECAUSE WE TOUCHED ON SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, I'VE, I THOUGHT COULD BE ONE OF THE KEYS TO HELP US RESOLVE THIS FUNDING WISE.

AND THAT IS HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE FROM OTHER COMMUNITIES IN THE COUNTY OR OUTSIDE OF DALLAS THAT ARE SERVED.

AND WHEN I DRILLED INTO THAT, I WAS TOLD THAT REALLY IT'S ABOUT 92%.

OUR PROBLEM, I THINK, WAS WHAT THE STATISTICS SAID. SO THAT'S WHY, MR. ERICKSON, I WANTED YOU TO SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT, IS THAT, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT THAT BIG OF A NUMBER THAT WE STILL NEED TO FOCUS.

I MEAN, IT'S GOOD TO HAVE THIS DATA, BUT MAYBE WE DO HAVE THIS DATA IN SOME WAYS.

THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I NEED TO VERIFY I JUST CHECKED IN WITH OUR PARTNERS AT THE BRIDGE.

THE QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WAS YOUR, LIKE, LAST KNOWN ADDRESS? ISN'T HASN'T BEEN ASKED IN YEARS, BUT LIKE, WHERE DID YOU SLEEP LAST NIGHT? IS STILL PART OF IT.

AND SO I WANT TO VERIFY WITH SOME OF OUR PARTNERS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THEY CALCULATE AND KNOW THEIR LAST KNOWN ADDRESS AND PERCENT FROM DALLAS.

BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING IT IS STILL A VERY HIGH NUMBER OF PEOPLE THAT WERE SERVING IN DALLAS.

THAT IS WHAT I'VE HISTORICALLY KNOWN. BUT ALLOW ME SOME TIME TO TO VERIFY AND CATCH UP WITH YOU ON HOW THEY'VE GOTTEN THAT FROM HOUSING FORWARD.

BUT I MEAN, IT STANDS TO REASON WE ARE THE BIG I MEAN, WE'RE 1.3 MILLION PEOPLE IN THIS COUNTY.

AND SO WHILE I WOULD LOVE FOR THAT TO BE THE ANSWER, AND I STILL THINK EVEN THAT 8%, I'D LOVE TO RECOUP COSTS.

I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHAT THAT BALANCE IS.

IT'S PRETTY, IT'S STILL PRETTY SKEWED TO, TO DALLAS.

THANK YOU. SO TO CLARIFY, WHERE YOU SLEPT LAST NIGHT IS A VERY DIFFERENT ANSWER THAN WHERE WERE YOU LAST STABLY HOUSED? MY RECOLLECTION FROM YEARS AGO WHEN THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED IS ABOUT HALF OF THE PEOPLE WERE NOT FROM DALLAS, AND THAT ACTUALLY TRANSLATED TO THE SHELTER I WAS RUNNING IN MCKINNEY, WHERE HALF OF THE PEOPLE WERE NOT WERE ACTUALLY FROM DALLAS IN MCKINNEY SHELTER.

AND SO THIS IS THE KEY QUESTION, NOT WHERE DID YOU SLEEP LAST NIGHT? BECAUSE USUALLY IT TAKES PEOPLE A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO FIND THE SHELTERS.

AND IT IS STANDARD ACROSS THE COUNTRY. MOST CONTINUUMS OF CARE ASK THAT QUESTION.

AND FOR DECADES, METRO DALLAS HOMELESS ALLIANCE, WHICH BECAME HOUSING FORWARD, ASKED THAT QUESTION.

AND IT WAS POLITICAL REASONS THAT TOOK IT OFF.

SO I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR IT TO GO BACK ON, AND ESPECIALLY WHEN THERE'S AN OPENNESS TO FUNDING HOMELESSNESS FROM OUTSIDE OUR REGION AT THE STATE LEVEL, BUT NOT WITHOUT DATA.

AND SO THANK YOU FOR THAT BACKGROUND. ALLOW ME SOME TIME TO LOOK INTO THAT IN THE HISTORY AND PRESENT BACK TO YOU ON WHAT I WHAT I DISCOVER.

THANK YOU. SO THE NEXT ITEM IS GOING TO BE ITEM C ABOUT THE PROPOSED LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.

BUT I WANT TO JUST PAUSE AND DO ITEM N, WHICH IS THE LEGISLATIVE UPDATE THAT IS COUNTY AND FEDERAL.

AND ERIC, I THINK YOU'RE GOING TO WALK US THROUGH BOTH.

I DON'T KNOW IF CLIFFORD'S ON FOR THE NEXT. BUT IF WE CAN JUST RUN N AND THEN GO BACK AND DO C SO THAT WE'VE GOT ALL THE INFORMATION TOGETHER.

HELLO MADAM CHAIR. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? YES.

SO APOLOGIES. THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING, ERIC DOMINGUEZ, OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

AND TODAY'S MEMO PROVIDED OUTLINES THE UPCOMING NOVEMBER 3RD DALLAS COUNTY TAX RATE ELECTION.

WE, AS THE CITY OF DALLAS, HAD EXTENDED AN INVITATION TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW FOR YOUR PURVIEW FOR THE COMMITTEES TO DALLAS COUNTY.

UNFORTUNATELY, THEY WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND. TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.

HOWEVER, WE WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO BE THAT CONDUIT AND PROVIDE INFORMATION TO THE COMMITTEE AS WELL.

SO I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT, THIS IS ACTUALLY THE SECOND TIME WE'VE ASKED THEM TO COME AND PRESENT THIS, THAT THEY HAVE WITHDRAWN. THAT IS CORRECT, YES.

OKAY. AND ARE YOU ABLE TO SHARE THE INCREASES 2.4 CENTS PER $100 OF ASSESSED VALUE.

I BELIEVE THE COUNTY CALCULATED WHAT THAT WOULD MEAN ON A, ON A BILL FOR PEOPLE'S TAXES.

DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? I DO HAVE THAT INFORMATION TO SHARE WITH THE COMMITTEE AND HAPPY TO DO SO. IN A FRIDAY MEMO, IF YOU PREFER, MA'AM. IF YOU HAVE IT OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.

IF NOT, THE FRIDAY MEMO WILL BE FINE. YES, THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

THANK YOU MA'AM. OKAY. I BELIEVE THAT ELBA GARCIA TOLD ME IT WAS $100 FOR JUST THIS TAX ON A $400,000 HOME.

BUT. BUT IF YOU COULD VERIFY THAT IS CORRECT.

YES, MA'AM. AND THEN THE SECOND ITEM. YES. AND SO AN UPDATE REGARDING THE CONTINUUM OF CARE NOTICE OF FUNDING.

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CURRENTLY EVALUATING THE ORDER AND CONSIDERING ALL LEGAL OPINIONS.

SO PLEASE. SURE. THANKS, ERIC. ON AUGUST 7TH, THE US DISTRICT COURT OF RHODE ISLAND HAD AN INJUNCTION TO STOP THE CURRENT NOFO WITH HUD. THAT IS, WITH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

SUBMIT THEIR ANNUAL PLANS FOR FUNDING. SO AT THIS TIME, WE'RE AWAITING NEW HUD GUIDANCE ON WHEN THAT PORTAL WILL BE REOPENED AND THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY'LL NEED TO BE ASKED. SO THIS IS DELAYING FUNDING COMING TO THE COMMUNITY CARES ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

THANK YOU. WE DON'T USUALLY DO THIS. WE DON'T USUALLY KIND OF TALK ABOUT WHAT'S HAPPENING IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, BUT THEY'RE BOTH SO CONSEQUENTIAL TO WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH DALLAS THAT I ASKED FOR THE TAX RATE ELECTION.

AND I LIKE HOW YOU PUT THIS ON HERE, THAT IF APPROVED BY VOTERS, THE ADDITIONAL REVENUE WOULD SUPPORT SERVICES SUCH AS HOMELESS OUTREACH, HOUSING ASSISTANCE AND MENTAL HEALTH CARE. AND THE THE IMPORTANT THING TO KNOW AND THINK ABOUT IS, DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE COUNTY IS TAKING ON THIS ISSUE AS THEIR ISSUE AND NOT OUR ISSUE, AND OR ARE WE GOING TO DUPLICATE DOING HOUSING OUTREACH OR ARE WE GOING TO DUPLICATE DOING HOUSING ASSISTANCE? THIS, I BELIEVE, IS 100. $100 MILLION ANNUALLY IS WHAT IT'S SUPPOSED TO GENERATE.

THAT'S FAR BEYOND WHAT WE SPEND ON THESE SERVICES.

SO I JUST THINK IT'S SOMETHING TO CONSIDER AT THIS TIME.

I CERTAINLY I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO ADVOCATE FOR OR AGAINST IT, BUT I DO THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO KNOW THAT IT'S HAPPENING IN THE PUBLIC TO KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING BEFORE THEY GET TO IT ON THEIR BALLOT.

AND THEN THE SECOND ONE, THIS IS KIND OF UNPRECEDENTED.

THE HUD MADE VERY SIGNIFICANT CHANGES. THERE WAS A LAWSUIT.

THE LAWSUIT PAUSED. AND THEN NOW HUD IS GOING BACK AND CHANGING IT.

BUT THERE COULD BE A GAP IN FUNDING FOR IMPORTANT PROGRAMS THAT COULD BE VERY DETRIMENTAL IN OUR COMMUNITY AND OTHERS. SO IT'S JUST THINGS THAT WE NEED TO KNOW ABOUT IN TERMS OF POLICY AND HOW IT WILL IMPACT US.

WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCIL MEMBER.

MORENO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE COUNTY STEPPING UP.

I THINK IT'S ABOUT TIME AND EXCITED. QUESTION FOR ME THOUGH IS, YOU KNOW, I THINK 100 MILLION IS PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH. MAYBE IT'S THE RIGHT NUMBER. MAYBE IT'S NOT.

BUT WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET AT IS. THE CITIES, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING THROUGH OUR BUDGET.

DO WE NEED THE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS THAT THE THAT THE CITY OF DALLAS CAN CONTINUE TO FUND? OR ARE WE ABLE TO NOW RELY ON THE COUNTY TO BE ABLE TO ABSORB THOSE OPERATIONS AND THOSE DOLLARS THAT WE HAVE BEEN FUNDING FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS? AGAIN, PROBABLY NOT A CONVERSATION FOR THIS YEAR, BUT IN FUTURE YEARS ARE WE DUPLICATING OUR SERVICES AND DUPLICATING OUR DOLLARS? AND SO FROM A FUNDING STANCE, OR IS THERE A NEED FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS TO CONTINUE FUNDING WHAT WE HAVE PREVIOUSLY? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AT THIS YEAR. YEAH.

I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE OUR CURRENT INVESTMENTS TO CONTINUE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, A NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED CONTINUUM OF CARE AND SERVICES THAT WE CONTINUE TO LOOK AT WAYS TO REFINE THAT. IF THIS IS TO PASS, I THINK IT'S A FAIR QUESTION TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THAT AND COME BACK TO YOU ALL AS COUNCIL, TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THIS FUNDING IS GOING TOWARDS.

IF THERE CONTINUES TO BE A GAP IN THE SYSTEM, WHAT IS BEING SCALED UP? AND WE CAN PRESENT THAT IN CONCERT WITH THE CONTINUUM OF CARE.

I'M HAPPY TO SHARE AS WELL THAT ONE OF THE INTERIM CHARGES PROVIDED OVER THE SELECT COMMITTEE ON GOVERNMENT OVERSIGHT IS TACKLING THIS ISSUE.

WHILE THEY HAVE NOT HAD A COMMITTEE HEARING AT THIS TIME, I FORESEE THIS OCCURRING DURING THE FALL, WHICH A REPORT WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO MEMBERS IN THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE.

AND SPECIFICALLY, CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU AND I HAVE BEEN PART OF A WORK GROUP ASSOCIATED WITH THAT IN YOUR ROLE AS CHAIR PREVIOUSLY. AND THAT GROUP IS CONTINUING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE, INCLUDING, YOU KNOW, POSSIBLY HAVING THAT CONVERSATION THAT INCLUDES THE BRIDGE. SO WHO ELSE HAD ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE OF THIS, THIS UPDATE? YES. BAZALDUA. YEAH, I I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXPAND ON THAT AND, AND ASK FOR AN

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I THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT WERE, THAT WERE JUST ASKED. WHEN THERE'S STILL A LOT OF UNKNOWN, I DON'T I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S APPROPRIATE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION.

IF WE DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT THE VOTERS HAVE DECIDED ON A POTENTIAL FUNDING.

BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE'D BE WILLING TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION TO FEEL LIKE HOW WE COULD ENHANCE OUR EFFORTS AND MAKE A MORE ROBUST APPROACH INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO WIPE OUR HANDS CLEAN AND, AND TAKE A STEP TO THE SIDE.

THE THING I THINK THAT OUR STANCE AS A CITY FOR SO LONG HAS BEEN WANTING TO SEE OTHER JURISDICTIONS STEP UP TO THE PLATE WHERE WE BELIEVE THEY COULD AND IS MORE APPROPRIATE TO. AND I THINK THAT IF THAT CONVERSATION IS GOING TO BE HAD, IT SHOULD BE OUR OPPORTUNITY, WHAT OPPORTUNITY THAT IT AFFORDS US AS A CITY TO DEVOTE MORE RESOURCES INTO WHAT WE BELIEVE IS, IS IN OUR PURVIEW. SO IF WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO TAKE ON HOUSING, FOR INSTANCE, AND WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SOCIAL WORK COMPONENT AND SOCIAL SERVICES WITH OUTREACH AND MENTAL HEALTH OR SUBSTANCE USE THAT, THAT WE WORK COLLABORATIVELY WITH INSTEAD OF LOOKING AT AS AN OPPORTUNITY. SO I THINK THAT THIS IS A MUCH LARGER CONVERSATION TO BE HAD, AND I'M HOPING THAT IT TOUCHES MANY JURISDICTIONS AND HAS THE ABILITY TO WORK VERY COLLABORATIVELY ON THAT.

BUT I WOULD JUST HOPE THAT WE WEREN'T LOOKING AT WHAT ANOTHER JURISDICTION IS DOING IT AS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO STOP DOING WHAT WE ALREADY KNOW IS, IS WORKING WELL. ESPECIALLY BEING THE LARGE CITY IN THE COUNTY.

I THINK THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT BEING LOOKED AT FOR GUIDE QUITE FRANKLY.

AND SO I DO LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THOSE CONVERSATIONS AND JUST HOPE THAT WE HAVE IT.

IN A VERY COLLABORATIVE WAY WITH THE OTHER JURISDICTIONS AS A PART OF THE CONVERSATIONS INSTEAD OF CONTINUING TO WORK OUT IN SILOS.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THIS IS REALLY JUST FOR AWARENESS, NOT FOR A POLICY DISCUSSION AT THIS POINT.

AND TO YOUR POINT, WE PROBABLY WON'T HAVE THIS COME BACK AGAIN UNTIL WE KNOW THE WELL.

IF IT PASSES, THEN IT'LL COME BACK. I MEAN, BASICALLY THERE'S IT'S AN AWARENESS ISSUE.

DOES ANYBODY ELSE HAVE A QUESTION ON THIS ONE? NO.

THIS IS FOR N. OKAY. WELL THEN LET'S GO TO ITEM C.

THANK YOU. GREAT. ERIC DOMINGUEZ OFFICE OF GOVERNMENT AFFAIRS.

AND SO TODAY'S ITEM FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION IS TO BE VERY TRANSPARENT IN THE PROCESS AS IT RELATES TO THE PROPOSED PRIORITY SUBMISSIONS THAT WERE SUBMITTED ON BEHALF OF BOTH CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ALSO DEPARTMENTS.

WE HAVE SYNTHESIZED AND CONSOLIDATED THIS TO EFFECTIVELY SHOW AND HIGHLIGHT ALL THE ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS LEGISLATION.

I WILL SHARE WITH YOU THAT DURING THE LAST LEGISLATIVE SESSION, THERE WAS A LITTLE OVER 200 BILLS IN REGARDS TO THIS SUBJECT AREA.

OF THAT WE CAN CERTAINLY PROVIDE YOU AN OVERVIEW ON HOW THE CITY MAINTAINED AND MONITORED THOSE PARTICULAR PIECES OF LEGISLATION.

BUT BEFORE YOU ARE THESE SIX ITEMS FOR YOUR REVIEW I WILL SHARE WITH YOU AS WELL THAT THERE WERE OVER 32 ITEMS IF WE HAD TO YOU KNOW, SYNTHESIZE THIS UNCONSOLIDATED BEFORE YOU YOUR REVIEW.

AND SO HOPEFULLY THIS DEFINITELY DOES CAPTURE THOSE PRIORITIES THAT YOU SEEM AND DEEM FIT TO BELONG ON THE LEGISLATIVE AGENDA BEFORE THE CITY OF DALLAS.

HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WELL, BECAUSE I UNUSUALLY WEAR TWO HATS IN THIS SCENARIO, BOTH AS LEGISLATIVE CHAIR AND HOUSING. THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT THAT THERE WERE 32 ITEMS SUBMITTED FOR HOUSING AND IN HOMELESSNESS.

OUR GOAL IS ACTUALLY TO HAVE TEN OR LESS ITEMS ON OUR LEGISLATIVE PLAN THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON, AND YOU'LL SEE THAT ALL THESE ITEMS ARE MONITOR.

AND AS WE LOOK DOWN THAT LIST OF 32 OF WHICH THERE ARE VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS, SOME A LITTLE BIT BROADER THEY WERE ALL PUT IN AS MONITOR.

AND WHAT YOU SHOULD KNOW IS THAT EVERY HOUSING AND HOMELESS BILL THAT COMES OUT, WE MONITOR EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM.

AND THERE'S A BILL ANALYSIS AND IT STARTS WITH STAFF.

DO YOU WANT TO WALK THROUGH THAT PROCESS? YES, THE BILL ANALYSIS PROCESS THROUGH THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION, PERHAPS. YES. AND SO AND I'M SORRY, YOU'RE NEW.

SO IF YOU IF YOU NEED HELP, I DON'T KNOW IF CLIFFORD'S ON, BUT I KNOW YOU ARE.

YES. YOU'RE READY TO GO. YES, YES. AND HAPPILY TO STEP IN THIS PLACE AS WELL.

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AND SO WALKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS OF HOW THE LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE WILL GO AHEAD AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PRIORITIZED BILLS.

AND WHAT WE WILL DO IS, AS THE SESSION KICKS OFF, EVEN DURING PRE FILING, IS WE WILL GO AHEAD AND FLAG THOSE THOSE PARTICULAR POTENTIAL BILLS. WE WILL BE FLAGGED, REVIEWED, ANALYZED IT WITH OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTS, OUR DEPARTMENT LEADS AND ALSO PROVIDE YOU WITH AN OVERVIEW OF THAT PROCESS COMES FORWARD.

YES, WE ARE OFTEN ENGAGED WITH OUR LAWMAKERS ABOUT WHAT ISSUES PERHAPS THEY MIGHT OFFER, WHICH IS AS IMPORTANT, AND SO THAT WE ACTUALLY HAVE ONE OF OUR DELEGATION MEMBERS CARRYING THAT SPECIFIC PIECE OF BILL.

AND SO WITH OUR OFFICE WILL DO DURING THE LEGISLATIVE PROCESS, IS ENGAGE AND TRACK THAT BILL THROUGH BOTH THE HOUSE FLOOR, THROUGH THE SENATE FLOOR, AND VICE VERSA, AS THAT BILL TRIES TO MAKE ITS WAY AND BECOME LAW AND BEFORE THE GOVERNOR'S DESK AS WELL FOR SIGNATURE.

GREAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. AND I JUST WANT TO CLARIFY THAT AS THE BILL GETS FILED, IF IT'S SOMEONE IN OUR DELEGATION, WE GENERALLY WILL KNOW ABOUT IT IN ADVANCE.

IF IT'S SOMEBODY OUTSIDE OUR DELEGATION, WE SOMETIMES DO AND SOMETIMES DON'T.

BUT WHAT HAPPENS IS YOU HAVE A SOFTWARE PROGRAM AND IT WILL FLAG IT.

AND LET'S SAY IT'S SOMETHING ABOUT HOUSING OR HOMELESSNESS.

THEN YOUR STAFF SENDS IT TO THOR AND HIS TEAM TO DO AN ANALYSIS BASED ON OUR POLICIES AND WHAT THEY KNOW OF THE COUNCIL'S GENERAL POSITION ON THINGS. IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'VE NEVER, YOU KNOW, ADDRESSED AND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE DOES THE SAME, CLIFFORD DOES THE SAME. AND THEN THEY COME UP WITH A RECOMMENDATION.

WE GO THROUGH IT AND DECIDE HOW TO HANDLE IT BASED ON ALL THE POLITICAL FACTORS INVOLVED.

MEANING IF IT'S NOT REALLY GOING TO IMPACT US BECAUSE IT'S MEANT FOR RURAL COMMUNITIES.

WE JUST NEED TO PROBABLY STAY OUT OF THAT. SO WE GENERALLY TRY NOT TO GET INVOLVED IN THINGS THAT WILL HARM OUR CITY UNLESS THERE'S A REASON TO. AND IF CLIFFORD WAS HERE, I KNOW HE WOULD SAY WE'RE DOING A WHOLE LOT OF DEFENSIVE AND, AND SOME OFFENSIVE, BUT AS MUCH AS WE CAN, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT THE CITY AND THE OVERARCHING LEGISLATIVE IDEA OF LOCAL CONTROL. AND SO I THINK THAT SORT OF SETS THE TABLE.

IT LOOKED LIKE, COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS, THAT YOU HAD SOME THOUGHTS YOU'D LIKE TO SHARE IF YOU'D LIKE TO GO FIRST, YOU'RE WELCOME TO. SURE. YEAH. THANK YOU. SO IN WHAT HAS BEEN SAID THAT I THINK, MR. DOMINGUEZ, YOU JUST SAID THAT WE'RE MONITORING ALL OF THESE BILLS THAT ARE AROUND THIS CATEGORY.

AND SO BECAUSE THIS IS OUR NUMBER ONE RESIDENT FOCUSED PROBLEM AREA, AS THEY'VE TOLD US IN A SCIENTIFICALLY VALID SURVEY, IF IF WE'RE MONITORING ALL, THEN IT SEEMS LIKE THIS LIST SHOULD REALLY BE WHAT WE WANT TO PURSUE.

I MEAN, WHAT WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THAT WE NEED TO PURSUE, I JUST CAN'T SEE THAT THIS CATEGORY IS, IS ONE WHERE WE WOULD JUST MONITOR. SO SOME THAT I THINK HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED THAT I WANT TO GET THE PADDLES BACK OUT ON AND TALK ABOUT AT THIS COMMITTEE IS AROUND THE BARRIERS TO CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT.

I THINK UNDER MAYBE THE FINANCE COMMITTEE, MAYBE THIS COMMITTEE, MAYBE IT WAS FINANCE HAD URBAN THREE COME IN AND DO A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE VALUE OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF PROPERTIES. AND CONDOS ARE THE BEST RETURN TO THE CITY OF DALLAS IN GROWING THE TAX BASE.

AND WE ALSO KNOW THAT'S KIND OF A SEGMENT THAT WE DON'T HAVE AS MUCH OF.

AND SO, I MEAN, IT OFFERS OWNERSHIP. IT OFFERS MULTIPLE PRICE POINTS.

IT CAN REALLY HELP INVIGORATE AN AREA. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THIS COMMITTEE ADVANCE THAT FOR COUNCIL CONSIDERATION TO JUST REMOVE SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS.

IT SOUNDS LIKE LAST SESSION THERE WAS ACTUALLY SOMETHING THAT JUST DIDN'T GET REINTRODUCED IN TIME THAT HAD BEEN PURSUED.

SO THIS WON'T BE SOMETHING NEW THAT WE'RE CREATING.

BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US DISCUSS THAT AS IT RELATES TO EVEN OTHER ASPECTS.

I MEAN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, HOUSING SOME OTHER CATEGORIES.

AND THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF OTHERS WERE GOING TO ADDRESS THIS, BUT TITLE CLEARANCE AIR PROPERTY SOLUTIONS.

YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE THIS IS REALLY AFFECTING THE SOUTHERN SECTOR.

I KNOW THERE HAD BEEN FUNDS ALLOCATED TO HELP EDUCATE ON, YOU KNOW, AIRS ON HOW TO WORK THROUGH A PROCESS.

BUT IT'S COMPLEX. AND I THINK THAT WHAT I REMEMBER, MR. ERICKSON IS IN ONE PRESENTATION, YOU TALKED ABOUT YOU KNOW, PEOPLE WOULD COME OUT TO LEARN ABOUT IT AND THEN IT WOULD JUST SORT OF FIZZLE AND WOULDN'T GO ANYWHERE, LEAVING PEOPLE WITH SOMETHING THAT THEY MAY HAVE A RIGHT TO OWN, BUT JUST THE COMPLEXITIES.

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AND SO IF THE CITY CAN DO THAT, I WOULD, I THINK WE SHOULD TRY.

AND THEN I MENTIONED EARLIER ABOUT THE PRE-APPROVED HOUSING DESIGNS.

IF THERE IS A WAY TO HAVE A PORTFOLIO THAT CAN JUST TAKE THE LAND THAT WE KNOW THE CITY MAY HAVE OR A LAND TRUST AND JUST MARRY THAT TO SOMEBODY WHO CAN BUILD IT AND SOMEBODY WHO CAN BUY IT AND REMOVE SOME OF THOSE TYPICAL HICCUPS THAT WE HAVE, MAYBE THROUGH PERMITTING ET-CETERA. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE US ADVANCE THAT BALL.

THAT'S ONE THING WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT TODAY IS WE WANT TO SEE ACTION.

AND I FEEL LIKE THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THAT SHOULD BE EASIER TO ACCOMPLISH, TO JUST MOVE THINGS THROUGH AND GET SOME HOMES BUILT AND PEOPLE OCCUPYING THOSE HOMES SOONER. SO THOSE WERE THE ONES THAT I DIDN'T SEE HERE THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE US PURSUE.

SO THANK YOU. I'LL TELL YOU WHY THEY'RE NOT ON THERE AND WHAT THE THOUGHT WAS IN THE CONVERSATION FIRST CONDOS, WE ARE ABLE TO BUILD CONDOS. NOW SO FAR NOBODY'S BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY WHAT THE PROBLEM IS.

SO PLEASE LET ME FINISH. THANK YOU. SECOND FOR TANGLED TITLES.

WE GOT A GRANT ZERO HOMES WERE ASSISTED WITH THAT GRANT.

IT IS COMPLICATED. IT'S SOMETHING I DID BEFORE I WAS ON COUNCIL, AND THERE'S ALREADY LAWS IN PLACE AND THE LAWS IN PLACE ARE ACTUALLY THE TANGLING PART. AND IT'S NOT JUST STATE. IT IS COUNTY, IT IS CITY, IT IS STATE, IT IS FEDERAL.

AND I DON'T KNOW HOW TO UNDO IT. AS A LEGISLATIVE ISSUE, I MEAN, I THINK IT IS, FRANKLY, BEYOND US.

AND IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO TAKE THAT ON, THAT'S FINE.

BUT IT'S PROBABLY NOT A GOVERNMENT ENTITY THAT WOULD DO THAT.

AND THEN THE THIRD ONE ON THE LAND TRUST, IF THE PROBLEMS ARE PERMITTING, AGAIN, THE LEGISLATORS WILL LOOK AT US AND SAY, SO YOU'RE HAVING A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF YOUR JURISDICTION.

THEY DON'T WANT TO TALK TO US ABOUT THAT. THEY SAY, GO FIX YOUR OWN PROBLEM.

AND, YOU KNOW, THEY WILL ACTUALLY THROW BACK IN OUR FACE THE THING WE SAY TO THEM.

WE SAY LOCAL CONTROL AND THEN HERE FIX OUR LOCAL CONTROL PROBLEM.

AND SO WE REALLY CAN'T HAVE ITEMS ON THERE THAT ARE IN OUR OWN PURVIEW TO FIX.

THE OTHER THING I WOULD SAY IS THIS THAT FOR VERY SPECIFIC ITEMS, THIS IS THE ROLE OF A LEGISLATOR AND WE ARE NOT LEGISLATORS. WE ARE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. AND ESPECIALLY THE LONGER YOU'VE BEEN ON HERE, I UNDERSTAND WHY WE THINK WE KNOW WHAT THEY OUGHT TO BE DOING, BUT IT'S FOR THEM TO FILE THE BILL. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THEY FILE THE BILL, GO FOR IT.

BUT WE'RE EXPECTING TO HAVE ALMOST DOUBLE THE NUMBER OF BILLS OF LAST YEAR, WHICH I THINK WAS 10,000.

CORRECT. WE'RE NOW EXPECTING 20,000 THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

SOME OF THEM WILL BE REAL. SOME OF THEM WILL BE A POLITICAL STATEMENT THAT WON'T GO ANYWHERE.

WE'LL NEVER GET A COMMITTEE HEARING, BUT STILL WE WILL BE TRACKING AND ANALYZING IT.

AND SO THE LEVEL OF WORK THAT'S INVOLVED IN THIS LEGISLATIVE PROGRAM IS MASSIVE.

AND THERE WILL BE I MEAN, IF THERE'S A BILL THAT COMES OUT AND IT'S ABOUT CONDOS, KNOWING THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THAT IT WILL GET FLAGGED BY HOUSING, IT'LL GET FLAGGED BY CLIFFORD, GET FLAGGED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY.

AND IF THERE'S A WAY TO HELP THAT BILL GO, WE'LL DO IT.

AND IF THERE'S NOT, IT'S NOT MEANT TO BE. SO IN GENERAL, THE LEDGE ISN'T PASSING SOMETHING FOR DALLAS.

THEY'RE JUST NOT. SO WE HAVE TO WORK WITH OTHER CITIES AND OTHER JURISDICTIONS TO MAKE IT HAPPEN.

SO I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR YOUR ANSWER ON THE CONDO.

THANK YOU. WELL, I CAN GIVE SOME DEPTH ON THAT. SO IT'S DEPOSITS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

AND AS I WAS SAYING, THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS MOVING FORWARD.

AND SO I WOULD LOVE FOR US TO REVISIT THAT. AND I THINK IT IS SOMETHING THAT COULD BE CITY WIDE.

SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT COLLEAGUES THINK ABOUT THAT ONE.

AND I CERTAINLY TAKE YOUR POINT. AND I'M SORRY.

IT WAS DEPOSITS FOR CONSTRUCTION, PRE DEPOSITS FOR CONSTRUCTION.

THERE WERE JUST SOME FACETS OF IT THAT MAY BE WORTH EXPLORING.

AND WHO'S REQUIRING THE PRE DEPOSIT. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO EXPLORE IS WHAT THE BARRIERS ARE TO SEE.

HOW THAT WOULD WOULD WORK. I JUST KNOW THAT THIS IS A HIGH VALUE FOR OUR TAX BASE, AND I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE THE ONE TO WORK OUT EVERY SINGLE DETAIL.

I KNOW WHAT THE ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE WE NEED IS, IS THAT WE NEED HOUSING.

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AND SO I WOULD LOVE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THAT BEFORE WE JUST OUTRIGHT SAY WE DON'T WANT TO DO SO RESPECTFULLY, IT'S EXACTLY THAT WE CAN'T GO SIT IN FRONT OF LEGISLATORS AND SAY, WE NEED YOU TO FIX OUR CONDO PROBLEM, BUT WE DON'T ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT THE PROBLEM IS, AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT GOT THERE.

WELL, I THINK THAT'S WHY WE WOULD COME TO A BRIEFING TO EXPLORE THAT AND LET OTHERS DO THAT.

BUT IF THIS COUNCIL HAD A WILL, IF CONDOS BECAME OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE, WE CERTAINLY COULD ALLOCATE FUNDING TO CONDO DEVELOPMENT.

WE COULD WE COULD TAKE CARE OF THAT. WELL, I DON'T SEE CONDOS BEING OUR NUMBER ONE ISSUE, BUT WELL, I DON'T EITHER. AND THAT'S WHY IT'S NOT ON THIS LIST.

OKAY. WELL, I'M JUST ASKING THAT COLLEAGUES GET AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN.

AND IT'S A CITY WIDE POTENTIAL SOLUTION AROUND HOUSING, AROUND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES ON THAT WHEN YOU SPEAK.

AND THEN ON THE PREAPPROVED BUILDING PLANS, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PERMITTING ISSUES.

IT ALSO MAY HELP STREAMLINE COSTS AND ALLOW SOME PEOPLE TO MOVE MORE QUICKLY TO HOMEOWNERSHIP.

AND SO IT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE RED MEAT TO THE LEGISLATURE.

IT COULD ALSO BE ABOUT SOLVING OUR HOUSING CRISIS, WHICH IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN, ARE YOU AWARE THAT THERE'S A STATE LAW THAT IS DENYING OUR ABILITY TO HAVE PREAPPROVED PLANS? WELL, ISN'T THAT THE POINT OF HOW WE WOULD ADDRESS THIS AND REVISIT THAT AND SEE IF WE COULD BELIEVE THE CITY COULD ADOPT PREAPPROVED, PREAPPROVED PLANS ON OUR OWN? WE DON'T NEED THEM TO DO THAT.

WELL, MAYBE THIS IS SOMETHING IN PARTNERING WITH OTHER CITIES THAT YOU MENTIONED COULD BE POWERFUL THAT WE COULD DO.

BUT AGAIN, THIS IS JUST ME AS A MEMBER OF THIS COMMITTEE CONTRIBUTING, ASKING.

AND SO I'D LOVE TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY.

I APPRECIATE THAT, BUT I'M SERIOUS IN WANTING TO PURSUE THAT, THAT ISSUE.

THOR, IF THE COUNCIL WANTED TO ADOPT AN IDEA OF HAVING PRE-APPROVED PLANS THAT WOULD BE SITTING IN DEVELOPMENT SERVICES, AREN'T WE ALLOWED TO DO THAT? IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, YES.

THAT'S IN OUR PURVIEW UNDER OUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S LOCAL CONTROL. SO AGAIN, THERE'S NO LEGISLATIVE ISSUE HERE AT THE STATE LEVEL.

THERE'S NO NEED TO CONSOLIDATE OR WORK WITH OTHER PARTNERS.

IT'S A CITY ISSUE. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE FOR US TO PURSUE THAT, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S HOUSING OR ECO.

IT PROBABLY IS ECO. BUT IF YOU WANT IT TO BE HOUSING OR DO IT TOGETHER, WE CAN CERTAINLY HAVE THAT CONVERSATION.

BUT IT'S NOT A LEGISLATIVE ITEM BECAUSE IT'S NOT A LEGISLATIVE BARRIER.

IT'S A CITY OF DALLAS BARRIER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR.

SO CONDOS, WHETHER WE ADDRESS IT THROUGH INTERNALLY, THROUGH THE CITY OR THROUGH THE STATE, I'M OVERALL SUPPORTIVE. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S BEEN SOME ISSUES IN MY DISTRICT WHERE THE CONDOS ARE FOR SALE.

BUT YOU HAVE SOMETIMES OUT OF STATE, OUT OF COUNTRY FOLKS THAT ARE BUYING THESE PROPERTIES AND THEN JUST TURNING RIGHT BACK AROUND AND RENTING THEM.

SO I WANT TO SEE WHAT SORT OF REGULATION THERE IS TO OWNERSHIP ONLY RATHER THAN JUST, AGAIN, GETTING THE, THE, THE ABATEMENTS AND GETTING THE EASY WAY TO BUILD A CONDO JUST TO TURN AROUND AND RENT THEM RATHER THAN HOME OWNERSHIP.

AND WHEN YOU HAVE A CONDO, WHETHER IT'S TEN UNITS OR 100 UNITS, AND YOU DON'T HAVE A REAL STRUCTURE IN PLACE TO MAINTAIN THAT PROPERTY OR TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S MANAGEMENT ON PROPERTY.

IT CAN CREATE SOME ISSUES AND SOME PROBLEMS THAT I KNOW I'M EXPERIENCING.

AND SO I JUST WANT TO, AGAIN, OVERALL SUPPORTIVE, BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLOSING ANY LOOPHOLES THAT MIGHT BE BRINGING ADDITIONAL ELEMENTS THAT WE'RE JUST NOT READY TO TO CARRY ON.

THANK YOU. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER SANCHEZ. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.

YEAH, I, I DON'T KNOW, I, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THERE BE A LITTLE BIT MORE OF A DIPLOMATIC OPPORTUNITY THROUGH THIS.

WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, MADAM CHAIR, I WOULD HOPE THAT MEMBERS OF THIS BODY COULD BRING SOMETHING UP AND IT NOT JUST BE FULL STOP FROM YOU BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU BELIEVE, YOU KNOW, FROM THE LEGISLATURE OR YOUR OWN OPINION.

WE ALL HAVE OUR OWN OPINIONS. AND I THINK THAT THAT IT'S WORTHWHILE.

AND I ALSO DON'T REALLY APPRECIATE BUSY WORK.

SO IF I'M TOLD TO GIVE UP LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND IT'S MEANT FOR US TO HAVE, YOU KNOW,

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IF THERE'S A WILL OF THE MAJORITY OF THIS BODY FOR ANY OF THESE, ANY, ANY OF THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO DEBATE THEM AND TO TALK TO OUR DELEGATION AND TO SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION, DEPENDING ON WHAT THE WILL OF THIS BODY IS AND NOT, YOU KNOW, HAVING TO, TO GO THROUGH, THROUGH, THROUGH YOU ESSENTIALLY TO SAY, NO, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THAT SHOULD BE HERE.

I TO THAT NOTE, THOUGH, I AND ONE THING THAT YOU, YOU MADE A COMMENT ABOUT IN YOUR REASONING IN PUSHING BACK WAS THAT THE LEGISLATURE? LEGISLATURE DOES NOT PASS THINGS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

THAT'S FALSE. THAT'S JUST ABSOLUTELY INCORRECT.

TWO OF THE LAST THREE SESSIONS, WE HAVE HAD SPECIFIC LEGISLATION THAT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL AND ADVANTAGEOUS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, AND THAT WAS BECAUSE WE DID HAVE A PLAN, AND WE HAD A ROBUST DISCUSSION, AND WE WENT DOWN THERE WITH A STRATEGY AND WE WERE SUCCESSFUL.

SO I JUST THOSE TYPES OF BLANKET STATEMENTS COULD EASILY BE MADE, BECAUSE I COULD TELL YOU ALL OF THE CRAZY THINGS THAT COMES FROM THE LEGISLATURE EVERY OTHER SESSION THAT DOESN'T HELP OUR CITY. BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHERE OUR FOCUS IS WHEN WE HAVE THINGS THAT WE COULD BE POURING RESOURCES INTO.

AND SO, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I PUT ON MY PRIORITIES THAT ISN'T ON HERE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU PUSHED IT TO GO TO ECO DEV OR WHAT THE CASE IS, BUT THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT HAS ACTUALLY HAD LEGS FOR TWO SESSIONS AND HAS BEEN FILED FOR THREE SESSIONS AND WE HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT TO EXPLORE, BUT THE ELIGIBLE TIF USE FOR LEGACY HOMEOWNERS TO BUY DOWN TAXES SPECIFICALLY FOR DISPLACEMENT.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS.

I'VE HAD GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE DOWN IN AUSTIN.

IT'S UNFORTUNATELY NEVER MADE WHAT IT NEEDS TO, TO GET TO CALENDARS, BUT I DON'T SEE THAT HERE.

BUT THAT'S A GAME CHANGER FOR US IN MANY OF OUR COMMUNITIES.

AND IT TOUCHES ON MANY OF THE CONVERSATIONS AND POLICY DEBATES THAT WE HAVE HERE.

SO I DON'T KNOW WHY THAT'S NOT ON HERE. BUT THEN THERE'S ALSO THE FUNDING SOURCES FOR MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES, FOR SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, FOR HELPING US WITH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE.

THOSE WERE ALSO THINGS THAT I'VE ASKED TO PRIORITIZE IN THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

I DON'T SEE THOSE REFLECTED ON THE MEMO OR THE PRIORITIES.

ULTIMATELY, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AS FAR AS WHAT OUR CONVERSATIONS ARE.

I THINK WE HAD A SIMILAR CONVERSATION IN QUALITY OF LIFE AS WELL, WHERE IT SEEMED LIKE THERE WERE OTHER ITEMS THAT PEOPLE FELT WAS IT FELL INTO THAT JURISDICTION. I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHERE THAT STANDS, BUT AS WE MOVE INTO THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS BODY HAS A VOICE A VOICE AS A WHOLE.

WE, WE, WE TAKE UP POLICY DISCUSSIONS AND WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO SEE IF THERE'S A CONSENSUS FROM A MAJORITY ON THIS COUNCIL.

THE THESE COMMITTEES ARE ADVISORY IN NATURE, ESPECIALLY IN AD HOC COMMITTEE.

AND SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU GET YOUR MARCHING ORDERS AND ARE SPECIFIC WITH THE LEGISLATIVE AD HOC COMMITTEE.

BUT IF IF THERE'S A CLEAR CONSENSUS FROM YOU MEETING WITH COUNCIL MEMBERS OR FROM US HAVING A CONVERSATION, THESE CONVERSATIONS SHOULDN'T STOP AT AN AD HOC ADVISORY COMMITTEE.

THESE CONVERSATIONS SHOULD NOT GET NIXED FROM A CHAIR TO DECIDE WHETHER THEY BELIEVE IT'S GOING TO HAVE LEGS OR VIABILITY OR NOT, OR EVEN IF THEY BELIEVE THAT IT'S GOING TO CAUSE A VINDICTIVE TONE FROM THE LEGISLATURE TO NOT WANT TO ADDRESS.

THAT'S NOT WHAT THESE DISCUSSIONS SHOULD BE ABOUT.

THESE DISCUSSIONS SHOULD BE ABOUT IF THERE'S A WILL FROM THIS BODY TO PURSUE SOMETHING, AND IF THAT'S GOING TO BE PURSUED IN A WAY THAT WE ARE ACTIVELY PURSUING AND WE ARE THE AGENTS OF, OR IF WE'RE JUST GOING TO TACK ON AND SUPPORT OTHER PEOPLE'S EFFORTS.

BUT I REALLY DON'T LIKE SEEING WHERE THIS IS GOING.

AND I THINK IT'S VERY PROBLEMATIC GOING INTO THIS NEXT SESSION, WHEN WE DON'T EVEN HAVE ANYONE ON THE GROUND LOBBYING ON OUR BEHALF.

SO TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS AN APPENDIX WITH ALL THESE ITEMS. SO AGAIN, THE IDEA THAT, I MEAN, I THINK THERE WERE WELL, WELL OVER A HUNDRED, WE'LL JUST SAY THAT ITEMS THAT WERE SUBMITTED. I CAN'T THINK OF EVEN OUR MOST. OUR MOST FAVORABLE LEGISLATOR RECEIVING 100 ITEMS FAVORABLY. AND THEY WILL NEVER READ THEM.

THEY WILL NEVER ACT ON THEM. AND SO THERE ARE SOME CITIES THAT HAVE THREE ITEMS TO HAVE.

TEN IS TO ACTUALLY MAYBE NOT HAVE ALL TEN EVEN READ.

SO WE WILL CERTAINLY HAVE THAT APPENDIX. ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL BE INCLUDED.

MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE WERE NOT INCLUDED BECAUSE THEY ARE THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNTY.

MADAM CHAIR, THAT IS YOUR OPINION AND I DIDN'T ASK FOR YOUR OPINION.

YOU DIDN'T ASK FOR OURS. YOU ASKED US TO GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES, WHICH I DID.

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SO I, I APPRECIATE YOU HAVING ONE, AND I APPRECIATE YOU IDENTIFYING AS THE MAJORITY OF OUR LEGISLATURE.

AND I THINK THAT YOU THINK THAT THAT GIVES YOU AN ADVANTAGE TO SPEAK ON THESE TOPICS, BUT IT DOESN'T, BECAUSE THAT'S NOT REFLECTIVE OF THE PRIORITIES OF OUR CITY.

SO I WOULD APPRECIATE FOR A DIPLOMATIC APPROACH AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN AND REPRESENT THE CONSTITUENTS I WAS ELECTED TO REPRESENT.

I UNDERSTAND AND AS EVERY YEAR THE ENTIRE PROGRAM WILL BE VOTED ON BY THE COUNCIL.

AND THIS HASN'T EVEN BEEN VOTED ON BY THE AD HOC AT THIS TIME.

THIS WAS ONLY TO LOOK AT THE HOUSING SIDE OF THINGS, THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SIDE.

AND SO WE TOOK ITEMS WHICH AGAIN, 32 GOT THEM DOWN TO SIX SO THAT WE COULD ADVANCE THEM.

IF YOU THINK OF THIS GOAL, WHICH IT'S ONLY A GOAL, WE MAY END UP WITH A DOZEN, WE MAY END UP WITH 15, BUT THE GOAL IS TEN, WHICH AGAIN, WAS DISCUSSED AMONGST THE WHOLE COUNCIL EARLY ON.

AND WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT SIX THAT JUST DEAL WITH HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS BECAUSE IT IS SUCH AN IMPORTANT TOPIC TO OUR COMMUNITY.

MADAM CHAIR, I REQUEST FOR THIS TO BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE COMMITTEE FOR AN ITEM TO BE DISCUSSED AND AT NAUSEAM, WITH EACH OF THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN SUBMITTED FOR THIS BODY TO DECIDE WHAT MOVES FORWARD INSTEAD OF A UNILATERAL DECISION FROM THE CHAIR BEING PUT ON A MEMO AND US HAVING NO SAY SO. THE 32 ITEMS ARE PART OF THE APPENDIX. ALL OF THAT IS IN THERE.

NOTHING IS BEING TAKEN OFF BY ANYBODY. IF THEY'RE IN AN APPENDIX, THEN WHY ARE THEY NOT ON THIS GRAPH ON THE MEMO SHOWING THAT THEY ARE A PRIORITY? I DIDN'T WRITE THE MEMO. I DON'T KNOW, I ACTUALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD BE THERE.

IT WILL BE PART OF THE BRIEFING TO THE AD HOC COMMITTEE.

BUT FIRST WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THIS HAPPENED.

AND SO THIS WAS GOING TO BE THIS THIS IS A DRAFT FOR YOU.

AND TO COUNCILMEMBER WILLIS'S POINT, YOU WANT TO ADD SOMETHING IN, TAKE SOMETHING OUT OF THESE SIX.

LET'S DO IT. AND THIS IS ACTUALLY THE TIME TO DO IT.

IT'S NOT NEXT MONTH. WE'RE GOING TO ALREADY HAVE THAT AD HOC COMMITTEE BEFORE NEXT MONTH'S HOUSING COMMITTEE MEETING.

SO IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU WANT TO ADD IN NOW, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO IT.

ERIC, IF YOU WANT TO READ OFF THE 32 TO PEOPLE, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT AS WELL.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE THEM IN THE SLIDE. BUT THIS WAS DONE FOR POLITICAL REASONS BECAUSE UNLIKE EVERY OTHER COMMITTEE, THIS IS A POLITICAL COMMITTEE. AND YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS POPPING OFF ABOUT THE GOVERNOR ALL THE TIME AND THEN THINK THE GOVERNOR IS GOING TO FUND OUR PROGRAMS. IT DOESN'T WORK LIKE THAT. YOU CONTINUE TO RUN THIS MEETING WITH OPINION.

I, YOU, YOU, YOU, YOU POINTED OUT TWO OF THE ITEMS THAT I PUT ON AND YOU TOLD ME THAT YOU DID NOT.

THEY DID NOT MAKE IT BECAUSE YOU BELIEVE THEY FALL UNDER THE COUNTY JURISDICTION.

NO ONE ASKED YOUR OPINION. SO THAT'S NOT AN OPINION.

THE COUNTY. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY AN OPINION. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE FUNDED IN OUR BUDGETS.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HAD ROBUST POLICY DISCUSSIONS ON.

WE'VE SUPPORTED THROUGH VOTES WITH OUR CONTINUUM OF CARE AND PARTNERSHIPS ACROSS THE CITY, FOR YOU TO UNILATERALLY MAKE THE DECISION THAT THAT IS NOT IN OUR PURVIEW.

SO YOU'RE NOT GOING TO ENTERTAIN IT TO BE DISCUSSED IS IS ABSOLUTELY A DICTATOR.

I ACTUALLY OH, STOP. THAT'S DICTATORSHIP. OKAY.

YOU'RE A CHAIRMAN. YOU SHOULD, YOU SHOULD YOU SHOULD STOP NOW.

WELL, YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER AS A CHAIR AS WELL. I'M NOT.

I ACTUALLY SAID IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO BRING AN ITEM BACK, GO FOR IT.

IF YOU WANT TO ADD IN THAT WE SHOULD FUND MENTAL HEALTH AS ONE OF THE ITEMS AND THE.

I ALREADY DID THAT WHEN YOU GAVE ME THAT OPPORTUNITY AND GO HOME, BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO SIT HERE AND LISTEN TO ALL THIS CRAP.

WELL, I AGREE WITH YOU, BUT OF COURSE THE PROPER WAY TO ADD AN ITEM WOULD BE TO MAKE A MOTION.

AND THAT IS SPECIFICALLY WHAT I'M SAYING. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD AN ITEM, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE OR EDIT ONE, YOU ARE ABLE TO DO THAT AT THIS TIME. SO IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD A CONDO ITEM, YOU CAN DO THAT.

IF YOU WANT TO ADD A TANGLED TITLE ONE, YOU CAN DO THAT, BUT SOMEBODY HAS TO MAKE A MOTION.

THAT'S HOW COMMITTEES WORK. I MOVE THAT WE INCLUDE CONDOMINIUM PRE-CONSTRUCTION DEPOSITS AS AN ITEM.

ACTUALLY, I DON'T KNOW IF WE WANT TO BE THAT NARROW AT THIS POINT.

I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE MORE INPUT, BUT I DO WANT TO SEE THAT CONSIDERED AS FAR AS CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT.

SO I'M SORRY BARRY. I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION.

SO IF I MOVE THAT WE THANK YOU AND REDUCE BARRIERS TO CONDOMINIUM DEVELOPMENT AS A LEGISLATIVE ITEM.

AND THEN ALSO THE TITLE CLEARANCE AND HEIRS PROPERTY SOLUTIONS AS AN ITEM.

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SPECIFICALLY, IN ADDITION TO ELIGIBLE TIF USES SPECIFIC TO LEGACY HOMEOWNERS AND BUYING AND BUYING DOWN TAX INCREASES, AS WE'VE HAD ON PREVIOUS LEGISLATIVE ITEMS. SECOND POINT OF INFORMATION, CHAIR, IS THE MOTION FOR MONITORING OR FOR PURSUING.

I DIDN'T HEAR THAT. NEITHER DID I. I WOULD AMEND THAT TO INCLUDE PURSUE.

OKAY. OKAY. SO I'VE GOT PURSUE FOR REDUCING BARRIERS TO CONDO DEVELOPMENT, TITLE CLEARANCE SUPPORT, MENTAL HEALTH AND SUBSTANCE ABUSE SPECIFICALLY FOR HOMELESSNESS AND TIF LEGACY HOMEOWNERS.

DID YOU HAVE A DEFINITION OF LEGACY? OPEN TO INTERPRETATION.

I THINK THAT WE WOULD WE WOULD WE WOULD CONSIDER THAT TO BE OPEN FOR THE LEGISLATORS.

I DON'T KNOW THAT WE WANT TO COME WITH SOMETHING TOO TAILORED. OKAY.

SO WE'VE GOT ALL FOUR ITEMS AND NOBODY WANTS TO SEPARATE.

YOU WANT ALL FOUR TOGETHER? SURE. WE CAN KEEP THEM TOGETHER FOR NOW, KNOWING WE'RE GOING TO HAVE FUTURE DISCUSSION AND ALL FOUR WOULD BE UNDER PURSUE.

IS THAT CORRECT? OKAY. SO ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION.

OKAY. OPPOSED WOULD BE ME. ANY OTHERS? NOPE. OKAY.

WELL, THAT MOTION CARRIES, SO PLEASE MOVE THEM ACCORDINGLY.

THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT ON THE LEGISLATIVE SIDE? I'M JUST TRYING TO GET SOME CLARITY ON THIS AS WELL.

WITH THESE SIX, THEY ALL SEEM REACTIVE. AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT SOME OF THIS BODY IS CONCERNED ABOUT WHERE WE'RE CHOOSING TO MONITOR. AT WHAT POINT DO YOU AT ONE POINT, WAS YOUR INTENTIONS ORIGINALLY FOR THIS TO MOVE TO SOME PURSUE, OR IS IT JUST, WELL, IF IT COMES UP, THEN WE'LL JUST MONITOR IT BECAUSE I GUESS THE PIECE I'M MISSING IS TO WHAT WE JUST SAID.

HOW DO WE, IF THERE ARE SOME ITEMS THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, DIRECTLY IMPACT THE CITY AND THOSE THINGS THAT WE NEED TO PURSUE, WHEN DOES THAT COME UP IN THIS PROCESS? SURE.

SO IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND THE THING IS THAT WE PUT IT UNDER MONITOR SO THAT WHEN A BILL IS FILED, THAT ANALYSIS CAN BE DONE. THE DEVIL'S IN THE DETAILS.

SO FOR INSTANCE, THERE WAS A BILL ABOUT HOMELESSNESS AND SERVICES BEING PROVIDED NEAR SCHOOLS.

WELL, THE DETAILS OF THE RADIUS MEANT WE ACTUALLY COULDN'T HAVE ANY HOMELESS SERVICES IN DALLAS.

THAT WAS A PROBLEM, BUT THE BILL WAS GOING TO PASS.

I MEAN, FOR SURE IT WAS GOING TO PASS. AND SO IT REALLY MEANT ABOUT CHANGING WHAT THAT RADIUS WOULD BE AND THEN SEEING IF WE COULD MAYBE NOT HAVE THAT BILL. SO IT DEPENDS ON WHAT'S FILED.

THERE COULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER BILL THAT DEALT WITH OUTREACH SERVICES THAT WE WOULD WANT TO SUPPORT, BUT IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE LANGUAGE. AND SO I THINK THERE'S A VERY CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE THE MAJORITY OF THE COUNCIL IS. AND FOR YOUR COMFORT, IF YOU THINK THAT I DON'T SHARE YOUR OPINION, WHICH MAY BE TRUE, YOU CAN AT LEAST BE COMFORTABLE THAT YOU HAVE.

ERIC AHMAD, THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, IN THIS CASE FOR HOUSING THOR AND JAMES AND CLIFFORD, WHO ARE GIVING THAT BILL INPUT. SO IT'S NOT ONE VOICE AND IT'S BASED ON ALL THAT APPENDIX IS SETTING THE POLICY POSITION, BUT THE DETAILS OF WHAT THE BILL SAYS ARE VITALLY IMPORTANT TO HOW WE PURSUE IT. AND SO IF IT'S A GREAT BILL, WE'RE GOING TO BE ALL IN.

COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO, I THINK YOU MAY HAVE TESTIFIED THE MOST ON HOUSING FOR SURE OF ANYBODY.

AND THERE WERE OTHER TIMES THAT YOU WERE ASKED THAT YOU COULDN'T EVEN GO BECAUSE WE WANTED TO SUPPORT OR OPPOSE SOMETHING BASED ON HOW IT WOULD IMPACT ALICE.

AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE THAT AS WE GET THIS SET, WE WILL DO WHAT I DID LAST TIME, WHICH IS SORT OF DIVIDE UP TOPICS SO

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BUT WE DO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SOMEBODY KNOWS WHAT THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT, BECAUSE YOU ARE VERY LIKELY GOING TO GET QUESTIONS ON CAMERA IN FRONT OF THAT COMMITTEE, AND YOU'RE GOING TO WANT TO KNOW THE ANSWER.

AND I WANT YOU TO BE PREPARED. AND SO IT'S MORE THAN JUST READING THREE, THREE MINUTES OF TESTIMONY.

I DIDN'T KNOW WHERE ALL THAT CAME FROM. I'M JUST TELLING YOU THAT SOME OF THIS NEEDS TO BE PUT ON, AND I'LL BE PREPARED WHENEVER IT IS. BUT IF WE NEVER HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE PREPARED, THEN I THINK THAT'S WHAT THIS DISCUSSION IS ABOUT.

SO THE TONE YEAH, YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING.

EVERY LAST PART OF THAT WAS UNNECESSARY. THANK YOU.

ABSOLUTELY. EVERY PERSON DID. ARE THERE ANY OTHER.

DO YOU WANT TO KEEP THE SIX THAT ARE HERE? DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THAT? OKAY. WELL, HEARING NONE, THEN WE'LL JUST MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.

SO THE NEXT ONE IS D. THIS IS A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING COMMUNITY UPDATE.

AND WE'LL HAVE THIS ON EVERY SINGLE AGENDA.

COULD YOU WALK US THROUGH WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THIS PROJECT? SURE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT FOR THAT QUESTION.

SO BACK IN APRIL, WE HAD HHS MEETING TO DISCUSS THE POTENTIAL OF THIS PROJECT.

WE HAVE PROGRESSED SINCE THEN WE ARE NOW RUNNING THREE POINTS THREE TRACKS TO GET THIS PROJECT TO ACROSS THE GOAL LINE. THE FIRST TRACK IS WORKING ON THE MOU WITH TXDOT WHO HAVE ALREADY BEGUN REMEDIATION OF THE BUILDING AND THE SITES. WE'RE ALSO WORKING WITH PALETTE AND JPI ON COST ESTIMATION FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND THE FINAL COST FOR THE ACTUAL PALETTES THAT WE WILL BE PURCHASING.

AND THE THIRD TRACK IS OUR RFP THAT WILL BE RELEASED HERE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS TO SELECT AN OPERATOR SLASH MANAGER OF THE SITE. OKAY. COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? YES, MADAM CHAIR, THANK YOU. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE UPDATE AND THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR WORK ON THIS.

I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS AS FAR AS THE NEXT STEPS AND THE THE TIMELINE.

I WAS REALLY HOPING TO SEE A MORE AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE, ESPECIALLY AFTER TALKING WITH AND MEETING WITH THE PALLET HOME FOLKS AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMMUNITIES. I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY, AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER COUNCIL MEMBERS, TO, TO VISIT SOME OF THE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE IN OPERATION, TALKED WITH THEM TO SEE KIND OF WHAT THAT LOOKED LIKE.

AND THIS IS REALLY SLOW ROLL. I KNOW IT SEEMS FAST FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.

BUT IT SEEMS LIKE WE COULD BE DONE A LOT FASTER.

CURIOUS AS TO WHY WE HAVE SOME OF THESE GAPS IN AND JUST AS AN EXAMPLE, IF WE'RE GOING TO GO FROM YOU KNOW, THE DEMO AND EVERYTHING HAPPENING UP HERE IN AUGUST, WHY WE'RE WAITING UNTIL OCTOBER, FOR INSTANCE, TO SOLICIT BIDDERS INSTEAD OF SIMULTANEOUSLY GETTING THAT RFP OUT IMMEDIATELY.

YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. ONE, ONE MAIN THING THAT WE'RE STILL WORKING WITH TEX-DOT ON IS FULL APPROVAL AT THE STATE FOR THE GROUND LEASE.

ONCE WE HAVE THAT FULL APPROVAL AT THE STATE, WHICH THEY'RE WORKING ON AGGRESSIVELY, AND THEY'LL BE HAVING A BRIEFING TO COMMISSIONERS WHO OVERSEE THOSE OPPORTUNITIES, THAT THAT MEETING IS NOT YET BEEN SCHEDULED.

AND SO WE'RE WORKING TO SUPPORT THAT. WE'VE OFFERED TO, TO BE THERE IF WE NEED TO ATTEND TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS, BUT THAT'S GOING TO BE A FUNDAMENTAL PIECE OF THIS SITE.

THE SECOND THING IS THE ITEMS ARE HAPPENING CONCURRENTLY WORKING WITH OUR PROCUREMENT SCHEDULE AND GETTING THINGS ON.

I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DID TAKE MORE TIME ON THIS PROCUREMENT AS IT'S SOMETHING NEW.

WE'VE HAD IT REVIEWED BY. SO LIKE A FEW EXTRA AGENCIES LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S TOOK MORE TIME WITH IT.

RISK HAS TAKEN MORE TIME WITH IT. WE'VE HAD IT REVIEWED BY ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND US BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS ONE AS CLOSE TO ACCURATE AS WE CAN AND NOT

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AND BECAUSE TXDOT WAS AN OWNER, IT CAN BYPASS SOME OF OUR LOCAL ZONING CODES LIKE IT'S EXEMPT.

AND SO WE CAN APPLY THAT SAME STANDARD HERE AND NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT SOME OF THOSE HURDLES THAT WERE ONCE A HURDLE.

AND SO BY JUST TAKING THAT TIME AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE THOUGHTFUL IN HOW WE EXECUTE ON THIS, THIS IS THE TIMELINE WE PRESENT TO YOU, AND WE'LL MOVE IT UP AND BE AS URGENT AS WE POSSIBLY CAN.

WE DO NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THIS APPROVAL OF THE GROUND LEASE. AND THEN AS SOON AS WE HAVE THAT, WE'LL START TO EXECUTE AND MAKE SURE WE CONTINUE TO BRIEF YOU.

THANK YOU. THAT WAS A GOOD ANSWER. I DIDN'T EXPECT ANYTHING LESS FROM YOU, THOR, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY YOU KNOW, THE TWO OF YOU ALL HAVE REALLY SEEN THIS THROUGH IN A, IN A PRETTY RAPID TIME FRAME, ESPECIALLY CONSIDERING THAT THIS IS SOMETHING I'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET DONE FOR FIVE YEARS BEFORE YOU ALL GOT TO THE, THE HELM TO, TO REALLY DO SOMETHING.

SO I DO WANT TO SAY THANK YOU. I, AT THE SAME TIME HAVE TO BE COGNIZANT THAT THERE IS, YOU KNOW, THE, THE POLITICS INVOLVED. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK THAT THERE'S THE WILL FOR NOW.

AND THE LAST THING I'D LIKE TO DO IS ALLOW FOR LEAD TIME THAT COULD MUDDY THE PROCESS IN, IN WAYS THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY NEED THAT TO. I WILL TELL YOU THAT I'VE PUT A STATEMENT OUT LAST WEEK AND HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THE COMMUNITY OF JOPPA, WHICH IS THE CLOSEST. AND I'VE MADE IT VERY CLEAR THAT I AM GOING TO HAVE ROBUST COMMUNITY INPUT BEFORE THIS IS COMPLETELY FINALIZED. THE INTENT OF THE INPUT IS TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO THIS RIGHT.

BUT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE HERE, JUST AS I SAID LAST WEEK, THAT THE INPUT IS NOT TO SEE IF WE ARE DOING IT.

WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO MAKE THESE TYPE OF COURAGEOUS TYPE OF POLICY DECISIONS.

AND I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE THAT WILL BRING GREAT RELIEF AND ADD TO THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE IN OUR CITY.

SO I AM VERY EXCITED FOR US TO GET THIS DONE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

AND SO IF THERE IS ANY FLEXIBILITY IN THAT TIME FRAME THAT DOESN'T COMPROMISE THE INTEGRITY OF THE PROCESS OR THE DUE DILIGENCE THAT YOU ALL BELIEVE YOU ARE TAKING, EVEN IF IT SHAVES A MONTH OR TWO OFF.

I AM SUPPORTIVE OF IT, AND I'D LIKE FOR US TO JUST CONTINUE TO MOVE AGGRESSIVELY AS POSSIBLE.

THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. COUNCILMAN. ANYBODY ELSE? WELL, I ALSO SHARE CONCERNS ABOUT THE TIME FRAME.

IF YOU HIT YOUR GOAL OF SEPTEMBER 2027, WE WILL HAVE BEEN DOING THIS FOR THREE YEARS AND FOUR MONTHS.

SO OUR FIRST CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS ON THE RECORD ON CAMERA WAS MAY 24TH, 2024.

THERE'S A TECH STOP MEETING ON WEDNESDAY. IS THIS ON THE AGENDA? IT IS NOT. IS IT PLANNED TO BE ON THE SEPTEMBER 24TH AGENDA? I'VE ASKED FOR A DATE. I DO NOT HAVE THAT YET.

OKAY. LET'S TALK ABOUT THAT OFFLINE AND SEE IF WE CAN'T TRY TO GET IT THERE.

MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THE DALLAS OFFICE OF TEXDOT HAD FUNDING IN THIS FISCAL YEAR, WHICH FOR THEM ENDS SEPTEMBER 30TH TO DO THAT DEMOLITION THAT IS STILL HAPPENING. THE GROUND LEASE IS THE PIECE THAT IS OPEN FOR DISCUSSION THAT WE CAN TALK ABOUT OFFLINE FOR YOUR COMMENT.

OKAY. SO THERE. HAVE THEY STARTED ON THE DEMOLITION? YES. THEY HAVE STARTED ABATING SOME OF THE PROPERTIES BEFORE THEY DEMO THE PROPERTIES.

AND DO THEY EXPECT TO BE COMPLETE BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER? THAT IS THE GOAL THAT WE'VE BEEN THAT THEY'VE COMMUNICATED TO US. YES.

OKAY. DO WE KNOW THE IT SAYS THE ESTIMATED COST FOR INFRASTRUCTURE AND PREDEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY IS PENDING.

WHO WHO ARE YOU ASKING AND WHAT IS THE TIMELINE FOR GETTING THAT? SO A LOT OF THESE THINGS KIND OF HAVE TO HAPPEN SORT OF ONE AFTER THE OTHER, AFTER THE OTHER.

AND SO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH PALLET AND JPI ON.

THEY'VE GIVEN US HIGH LEVEL NUMBERS, BUT WE'RE LOOKING TO GET SPECIFIC, A SPECIFIC ESTIMATE ON THE COST OF THE INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY BEFORE WE PURCHASE THE THE ACTUAL PALLETS. OKAY.

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THE, THE TRACK THAT'S MOVING SIMULTANEOUS TO THAT IS THE OPERATOR SOLICITATION TO ENSURE THAT WE GET AN OPERATOR ON BOARD AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THAT WILL COME WITH THE OTHER FUNDRAISING REQUIREMENTS TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S A NEW FACILITY THAT CAN BE MAINTAINED DIFFERENTLY THAN OUR CURRENT FACILITIES.

THAT IS ONE OF, I THINK THE KEY GOALS WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR ABILITY TO FUND ONGOING OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE IS HAVING AN OPERATOR THAT HAS A FUNDRAISING CAPABILITY TO CONTINUE MAINTAINING THIS NEW FACILITY.

SO I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THAT IS NOT BEING PUT OUT.

I MEAN, WHY HASN'T EVEN PUT OUT ALREADY? SO WE HAVE RECEIVED INTERNAL REVIEW THAT IS JUST COMPLETED OVER OVER THE SUMMER.

OUR FINAL STEPS IS WORKING WITH THE OFFICE OF PROCUREMENT TO GET IT POSTED.

AND, AND NEXT MONTH WE'LL BE ABLE TO OFFER IT WAS EITHER POSTED IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF WEEKS OR THE POSTING DATE.

BUT WOULDN'T IT INFORM WHAT PALETTE STRUCTURES WE WANT BASED ON THAT RESPONSE? SO SOME MAY WANT TO HAVE ADDITIONAL CONGREGATE SPACE FOR MEALS OR YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING SHADED STRUCTURES MAY BE SUFFICIENT. I MEAN IT SEEMS LIKE THAT WOULD BE PART OF THEIR RESPONSE.

IS THAT BEING ASKED OF THEM? SO THE, THE SOLICITATION AND THE REASON WHY THE SOLICITATION IS COMING OUT NOW BEFORE WE ORDER THE PRODUCT OR FINALIZE THE SITE PLAN IS BECAUSE WE WANT THE VENDOR THAT IS SELECTED TO PROVIDE THAT INPUT.

AND SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE ORDER OF, OF THE SOLICITATION, BUT THE SOLICITATION, IT, IT ACTS. IT'S ACTUALLY ASKING FOR QUALIFICATIONS OF THE VENDORS.

WHAT CURRENT OPERATIONS KIND OF RELATE TO SORT OF TRANSITIONAL COMMUNITY TYPE OF OPERATIONS.

AND SO IT, IT, IT, IT ACTS SORT OF THOSE QUESTIONS ABOUT REALLY, ARE THEY CAPABLE AND QUALIFIED TO RUN A SIMILAR TYPE OF PROGRAM? SO OBVIOUSLY WE DON'T GET INVOLVED IN THE RFP PROCESS.

BUT MY QUESTION WOULD BE ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS THAT FORM SPECIFICALLY FOR THIS PURPOSE.

SO LIKE I VISITED TAMPA'S PALLET SHELTER SITE AND IT WAS A NEW ORGANIZATION CALLED HOPE TAMPA, BUT IT REALLY WAS AN OFFSHOOT OF CATHOLIC CHARITIES.

AND HAVE YOU CONSIDERED THAT YOU WOULDN'T LOOK AT A VENDOR THAT STARTED A NEW, EITHER A COLLABORATIVE ORGANIZATION WHERE MULTIPLE NON-PROFITS CAME TOGETHER OR, YOU KNOW, SOME GROUPING OF, YOU KNOW, BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CAME TOGETHER WITH A SHELTERING GROUP.

AND SO IF THEY STARTED AS A NEW VENTURE, WOULD YOU SAY YOU'RE NOT QUALIFIED BECAUSE YOU HAVEN'T HAD, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS FUNDING OR WOULD YOU RECOGNIZE THE EXPERIENCE THAT THEY'RE BRINGING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS? I THINK THIS IS A UNIQUE INITIATIVE, AND WE'RE GOING TO LOOK FOR THE BEST PROPOSAL TO PROVIDE THE HIGHEST AND GREATEST SERVICE TO THE CLIENTS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE. OKAY. WELL, SO THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT MY CONCERN WAS THAT PERHAPS THERE WOULD BE GROUPS THAT WOULD COME TOGETHER LIKE THE HOPE TAMPA DID THAT MAYBE WERE DOMINATED BY ONE, BUT OFFSHOOT TO DO THE NONPROFIT SIDE OF THIS PROJECT, AND THEY ARE. I THINK PALETTE SAYS THEIR MOST SUCCESSFUL SITE VERY, VERY IMPRESSIVE AND IMPRESSIVE HOW IT'S GROWN AND EVOLVED OVER THE TIME WHICH STARTED DURING COVID.

WELL, I'M JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO THE TIMELINE.

I THINK WE NEED TO BE MORE AGGRESSIVE ON GETTING ON TECH STOCKS AGENDA AND, YOU KNOW, WE CAN'T HAVE THIS SERVICE FIRST NOW TAGLINE AND THEN SPEND MORE THAN THREE YEARS DEVELOPING A PROJECT.

SO I WOULD ASK FOR YOUR DILIGENT WORK ON MAKING THAT HAPPEN.

WE'LL DO OKAY. MOVING TO OUR NEXT ITEM. THIS IS THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT TO ACCEPT FUNDS FROM DALLAS COUNTY FOR $1.3 MILLION FOR THE BRIDGE. DOES ANYBODY HAVE AN ITEM ON THAT? ANY QUESTIONS? THIS IS THE SAME AMOUNT THEY HAD LAST YEAR, I BELIEVE.

YES. THAT'S CORRECT. GREAT. ITEM F, THIS IS THE GRANT FROM TDHCA.

ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? ITEM G. THIS IS THE BRIDGE

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AND THAT 1.4 MILLION COULD FURTHER AUSTIN STREETS DEVELOPMENT, THE STEW POTS DEVELOPMENT, ANYTHING THAT'S IN BETWEEN IT OR BEHIND IT. AND I DO THINK YOU HAVE A FACTUALLY INACCURATE TO SAY THAT THE 3.41 CAMPUS. ACRE CAMPUS IS CURRENTLY THE LARGEST FACILITY SERVING INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.

I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE, AND I WOULD POINT TO THE SALVATION ARMY AS WELL AS DALLAS LIFE.

ITEM H. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? THIS IS USING ARPA MONEY TO SUBSIDIZE HOMES AND REDUCING THOSE NUMBER OF HOMES FROM 125 TO 95, BUT NOT REDUCING THE DOLLAR SUBSIDY. IS THAT RIGHT? THAT'S CORRECT. SO WE'RE GOING TO SPEND $1.854 MILLION OF ARPA.

ON BUILDING 95 HOMES. YES. THIS HAS PREVIOUSLY BEEN COMMITTED.

AND THIS WAS ORIGINALLY THE ARPA ACTUAL ARPA DOLLARS, BUT IT WAS CHANGED TO ARPA REDEVELOPMENT FUND.

SO IT DOES HAVE THE EXTENDED TIME FRAME ON IT, JUST FOR CLARITY.

THERE IS A MODEST AMOUNT OF AFFORDABILITY. YES.

OKAY. ITEM I. ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS HFC? ITEM J ITEMS ON THE PFC. ITEMS. K THIS IS THE CONTRACT WITH BRIDGE AND I THINK IT'S A SUBCONTRACT WITH SALVATION ARMY.

ITEM L. DOES ANYBODY HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FAIR HOUSING FROM HUD GRANT.

I I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO ASK THIS QUESTION.

HOW MANY CASES IS FAIR HOUSING WORKING THAT ARE EITHER IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR ARE IN LITIGATION? I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH AN A WITH THE ACTUAL AMOUNT.

I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER THAT'S ARE IN LITIGATION CURRENTLY IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I CAN GET THAT FOR YOU.

WELL, I WOULD LIKE BOTH NUMBERS. EITHER WE'RE GIVING NOTICES THROUGH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE OR WE'RE IN LITIGATION.

WE'RE A VERY LARGE CITY, AND I DON'T THINK WE'VE BEEN NEARLY AGGRESSIVE ENOUGH ON FAIR HOUSING.

YEAH. THANK YOU. I WILL ACKNOWLEDGE THAT LAST YEAR'S ASSISTANCE WAS 100 000 BASED ON CASES THAT CAME IN AND CLOSED.

THIS AMOUNT IS NOW AT 365 BASED ON INCREASING THAT.

BUT I'LL GET YOU THE EXPLICIT NUMBERS THAT YOU REQUESTED.

THANK YOU. OKAY. ITEM M, THIS IS ON LY TECH. ITEM N WE ALREADY COVERED. AND LASTLY ITEM O THIS IS PRODUCTION GOALS.

AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY THAT ALL I. AND I APPRECIATE THIS.

YOU KNOW, I AM ALWAYS ASKING FOR THIS AND ADDING A COLUMN WOULD MAKE IT EVEN SMALLER.

BUT THE COLUMN THAT SEEMS TO BE MISSING IS WHICH ONES ARE CURRENTLY LEASING.

YEAH. THANK YOU. THIS REPORT IS A WORKING DOCUMENT.

I WILL ADMIT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE DO NEED TO CONTINUE TO FACT CHECK THIS, CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR PROJECTIONS HAVE THE, THE ACCURATE PROJECTIONS IN THERE. COMPILING EVERYTHING INTO LIKE WHAT HAS BEEN APPROVED AT COUNCIL WAS THIS FIRST ASK AS WE REFINE THIS WITH STAFF AT THE HFC AND PFC. I DO WANT TO SHOW THE ONES THAT ARE COMPLETED.

THERE ARE SOME ON HERE THAT WE KNOW THE DEALS HAVE STOPPED AND THEY'RE NOT GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.

AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW. AND THEN THERE'S SOME THAT WE CAN SHOW UNDER CONSTRUCTION OR THE ANTICIPATED DATE.

AND SO TO START THE CONVERSATION TODAY THOUGH, AND JUST WHAT THAT PORTFOLIOS LOOK LIKE FOR BOTH CORPORATIONS, WE WANTED TO SHOW YOU SOME OF THE NUMBERS AND KNOW THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO UPDATE AND REFINE AND FACT CHECK.

SO THANK YOU. WELL, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT WHAT WE'RE SEEING ARE SOMETIMES STATEMENTS ABOUT HOW MANY FOLKS THERE ARE, BUT WE ONLY ARE FORGOING CERTAIN AMOUNT OF REVENUE, BUT THOSE NUMBERS ARE INCLUDING PROJECTS THAT EITHER HAVE STOPPED.

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AND SO THE FULL EFFECT OF THE REVENUE FOREGONE IS NOT IN PLACE YET.

AND SO I DO THINK THAT A STATUS COLUMN, I'M CERTAIN YOU MUST HAVE IT.

IT JUST WASN'T PRINTED. IS THAT CORRECT? WE HAVE IT.

YEAH. WE WERE CHALLENGED TO SHOW EVERY YEAR OVER YEAR WE MIGHT ROLL THOSE UP TO FIVE YEAR INCREMENTS.

WE CAN WE CAN WORK ON THE FORMATTING AND ADD STATUS.

OKAY. WELL, I WOULD LIKE IF, IF YOU COULD RESEND THIS, I DON'T KNOW IF EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE IT.

I WOULD PERSONALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT. WOULD YOU LIKE OKAY, EVERYBODY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT.

SO. PERHAPS IF YOU CAN JUST ADD THIS ON FOR NEXT MONTH AND HAVE THE SAME REPORT, BUT LET'S ADD A STATUS COLUMN.

BECAUSE OTHERWISE IT WOULD JUST NOT BE FUN FOR MR. WEST AND I TO DEBATE THIS TOPIC. WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING? I WOULD LOVE TO. THANK YOU. HI, THOR. SO I'VE GOT A QUESTION OR JUST A CLARIFICATION THAT MAY NEED TO HAPPEN AFTER TODAY AND THEN A REQUEST. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE FCS. I'M LOOKING AT YEAR 2041 HERE.

AND IT'S, IT'S PUZZLING TO ME THAT WE HAVE FIVE PFC PROJECTS THAT ACCOUNT FOR 88% OF THE TOTAL FORGONE REVENUE FOR 2041. SO THERE'S A BIG LIST HERE, BUT IT'S REALLY FIVE PROJECTS THAT ARE ACCOUNTING FOR MOST OF THE REVENUE.

AND THEN THERE'S ONE THE CEDARS POWER AND LIGHT, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR OVER 50% AT 813,000.

SO I JUST NEED SOME UNDERSTANDING OF WHY THERE'S SUCH A DISCREPANCY IN, YOU KNOW, IN THE NUMBERS.

THANK YOU. THAT'S ONE IN PARTICULAR THAT I THINK WE NEED TO GO BACK AND VERIFY THAT THE NUMBER ENTERED INTO THE INITIAL FORMULA WAS CORRECT.

SO THERE, THERE MAY BE AN INSTANCE OR TWO LIKE THAT WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT HAS BEEN GRABBED FROM AN EARLY RESOLUTION OR AN UNDERSTANDING WAS THE ACTUAL EXEMPTED AMOUNT FOR THE ONES THAT ARE OPEN.

WHEN WE PULL DATA FROM OLD RESOLUTIONS, AS YOU MAY RECALL, HFC AND PFC PROJECTS WERE REPORTING THINGS VERY, VERY DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF THE OVERALL TAX EXEMPTION.

SO THIS ONE COULD HAVE BEEN PULLED AS LIKE THE OVERALL BECAUSE WE WEREN'T BREAKING IT OUT AS JUST THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND NOW WE'RE PULLING IT OUT FOR CITY OF DALLAS. SO ALLOW ME THE MONTH TO VERIFY THE ONES THAT YOU'VE CALLED OUT AND YOUR ADVOCATES HAVE CALLED OUT.

OKAY. AND THEN FOR MY REQUEST, I'M LOOKING AT MY CHART HERE, AND I'M GOING TO KEEP A HOLD OF THIS ONE UNTIL YOU UPDATE IT.

BUT I SEE THE UNITS THERE. IT'S NOT BROKEN DOWN IN AFFORDABLE VERSUS MARKET RATE, RIGHT.

SO LET'S GET THAT. LET'S GET THAT DONE. AND THEN THERE'S ALSO NO THIS JUST TALKS ABOUT WHAT IS COSTING THE CITY.

BUT WHAT ABOUT OUR REVENUES. SO I'D LIKE TO SEE CONSERVATIVE ESTIMATES OF DEVELOPMENT FEES LEASE PAYMENTS SALES.

YOU KNOW COMMISSION THAT COMES BACK TO THE CITY.

YEAH. THANK YOU. ALL THAT GOES BACK TO THE CORPORATIONS.

AND SO WE CAN WORK WITH THE CORPORATIONS TO SHOW HOW AN, A DIFFERENT REPORT, WHAT THOSE REVENUES AND SALES AGREEMENTS AND FEES MIGHT LOOK LIKE.

THE REQUEST FOR THIS DISCUSSION WAS TO LOOK AT WHAT WE'RE EXEMPTING AS A COMPLETE PORTFOLIO NOT THE OVERALL INTENDED BENEFITS OF THE PFC, HFCS. I THINK THAT'S THE PICTURE THAT I'M ASKING FOR HERE IS, YOU KNOW, THERE'S TWO SIDES OF THIS, RIGHT? THERE'S THE COST OF THE CITY. THERE'S THE BENEFIT TO THE CITY. AND SOME MEDIA SOURCE THAT PICKS THIS UP IS GOING TO BE LIKE, OH MY GOSH, IT'S JUST COSTING US A LOT OF MONEY AND THERE'S NO BENEFIT. SO YEAH, SEE BOTH SIDES.

YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. AND THE CONTINUED UNIT SUBSIDY PER UNIT OVER THE EXEMPTION STILL CONTINUES TO BE THE LOWEST COST COMPARED TO OUR DIRECT INCENTIVES.

THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I APPRECIATE YOU REMINDING THE COUNCIL THAT THE FEES PAID GO TO THE CORPORATION, NOT TO THE CITY. AND THEY ARE NOT PART OF OUR GENERAL FUND.

THEY'RE NOT AVAILABLE FOR USE FOR LIBRARIES OR STREETS OR PUBLIC SAFETY.

AND SO THEY CERTAINLY ARE AN EXPENSE TO US. AND IN LOST REVENUE.

SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IT IS 1207 AND THIS MEETING IS NOW ADJOURNED.

* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.