[00:00:02] YOU'RE WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM JAIME RESENDEZ, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MAXIE JOHNSON. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS. CHAD WEST ZARIN D GRACEY. JESSIE MORENO GAY DONNELL WILLIS. LAURA. CADENA. ADAM. BAZALDUA. LORI. BLAIR. PAULA. BLACKMON. CATHY STEWART. WILLIAM. ROTH CARA. MENDELSOHN. PAUL E. RIDLEY. CITY. MANAGER. KIMBERLY BIZOR TOLBERT. CITY SECRETARY BILLY RAY JOHNSON AND INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY BERT VANDENBERG. ALL RIGHT, WE HAVE A QUORUM. GOOD MORNING. TODAY'S. [Invocation and Pledge of Allegiance] WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 26TH, 2026. THE TIMES 9:28 A.M.. AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER OUR INVOCATION. SPEAKER, THIS MORNING IS GOING TO BE OUR DEPUTY MAYOR. PRO TEM MAXIE JOHNSON REPRESENTS DISTRICT FOUR. HE'S ALSO THE PASTOR OF THE NEW MORNING STAR MISSIONARY BAPTIST CHURCH IN WEST DALLAS, TEXAS. 75212. AND I'LL TURN IT OVER TO HIM RIGHT NOW, PASTOR. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. LET US ALL STAND. LET'S BOW OUR HEADS. FATHER, WE THANK YOU THIS MORNING BECAUSE YOU BLESSED US WITH ANOTHER DAY THAT WASN'T PROMISED TO US. GOD, WE GIVE YOU GLORY. WE GIVE YOU PRAISE. GOD, BECAUSE YOU BLESSED OUR FAMILIES. YOU'VE OPENED DOORS UP FOR US. YOU PROTECTED US FROM DANGER, SEEN AND UNSEEN. AND TODAY, GOD, BEFORE WE GET OUR DAY STARTED, WE WANT TO START WITH YOU. WE SAY THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR YOUR GRACE AND YOUR MERCY. THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER US AS WE SLEPT IN SLUMBER LAST NIGHT. THANK YOU FOR PROTECTING OUR FAMILIES. GOD, THANK YOU FOR WATCHING OVER THIS CITY. GOD, WE PRAY NOW AS WE DO YOUR WILL TODAY. HELP US, GOD, TO UNDERSTAND THAT YOU BLESSED US TO BE HERE. YOU'VE ANOINTED US TO DO THIS WORK AND FOR THAT WE GIVE YOU THE PRAISE. WHAT WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND, HELP US TO UNDERSTAND, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, BRING US TOGETHER, HEAL OUR CITY, HEAL OUR COUNTRY, AND HEAL OUR COMMUNITIES. GOD, WE ASK THAT YOU BLESS EACH COUNCIL MEMBER, BLESS THEIR FAMILIES. TOUCH THEM RIGHT NOW. BLESS OUR MAYOR, HIS CHILDREN. BLESS OUR CITY MANAGER, HER FAMILY. GOD CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER THIS GREAT CITY. AND LORD, WE DON'T WAIT TILL THE BATTLE IS OVER. WE PRAISE YOU NOW BECAUSE YOUR CREDIT IS GOOD WITH US. YOU'VE NEVER FAILED US. YOU'VE ALWAYS BROUGHT US OUT ON TIME. AND SO WE PRAISE YOU BEFORE THE FACT BECAUSE YOU ARE GOOD TO US. EVEN IN THE BAD DAY, YOU'RE STILL A GOOD GOD. AND SO THIS MORNING WE JUST LIFT YOU UP. NOW CONTINUE TO GUIDE US, DIRECT US, BE OUR JEHOVAH JIREH, OUR PROVIDER. BE OUR JEHOVAH RAPHA, THE LORD THAT HEALS AND CONTINUE TO AND CONTINUE TO WATCH OVER US. LET US COME TOGETHER DESPITE OUR DIFFERENCES. LET US SEE LOVE WITH WITH EACH OTHER. AND WE THANK YOU AND WE GIVE YOU PRAISE. IT'S IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. EVERYONE SAY AMEN. IF EVERYONE PLEASE REMAIN STANDING FOR OUR PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE TO THE UNITED STATES FLAG AND THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS. ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE. TEXAS. ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH, EVERYONE. YOU MAY BE SEATED. AND WE HAVE NO ANNOUNCEMENTS OR SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS. [BRIEFINGS] AND SO WE WILL GET RIGHT TO THE BUSINESS OF THE DAY. I WILL TURN IT OVER TO THE CITY MANAGER TO LEAD US THROUGH OUR BUDGET WORKSHOP TODAY. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, MR. MAYOR. AND TO THE CITY COUNCIL, WE'D LIKE TO START WITH AN ACTUAL BRIEFING TODAY ON THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS PRIORITY CONTINUES TO RANK IN THE TOP TWO FROM OUR DALLAS RESIDENTS, AND WAS REAFFIRMED IN THE 2026 COMMUNITY SURVEY. OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS, THE CITY HAS MADE SUBSTANTIAL INVESTMENTS IN MAINTAINING AND IMPROVING LANE MILES ACROSS DALLAS. OUR CONTINUED FOCUS ON STREET MAINTENANCE REFLECTS OUR COMMITMENT TO ENSURING THAT DALLAS RESIDENTS EXPERIENCE SAFE, RELIABLE AND WELL MAINTAINED ROADWAYS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. DESPITE THIS PROGRESS, WE KNOW THAT WE HAVE AGING INFRASTRUCTURE, AND IT DOES REQUIRE CONSTANT ATTENTION AND THE WORK OF PRESERVATION, MAINTENANCE AND RECONSTRUCTION HAS TO BE ONGOING. IN TODAY'S FIRST BRIEFING, WE ARE GOING TO PROVIDE AN OVERVIEW OF THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, GIVING YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND MORE DEEPLY ABOUT THE 2027 PROPOSED BUDGET AND THE PLANNED BUDGET FOR 2020 728. [00:05:07] WE WILL ALSO SHARE THE KEY INITIATIVES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT AND THE INVESTMENTS THAT WILL SUPPORT THE CITY'S TRANSPORTATION AND ROADWAY NETWORK. WE WILL ALSO GIVE YOU A MORE DETAILED LOOK AT OUR STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR PROGRAM, THE FUNDING SOURCES, THE VARIOUS TREATMENT STRATEGIES, AND THE PLANNED LANE MILE PRODUCTION. TO ILLUSTRATE, FOR YOU AND FOR OUR RESIDENTS THAT THIS IS A PRIORITY AND WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUOUSLY MANAGE IT STRATEGICALLY, ENSURING THAT THE CITY'S ROADWAY ASSETS REMAIN SUSTAINABLE. AT THIS POINT, I WOULD LIKE TO GO AHEAD AND TURN IT OVER TO THE DIRECTOR OF OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, DIRECTOR GUS AND CARLY, AND HE WILL WALK US THROUGH TODAY'S BRIEFING. GUS. GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MADAM CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE THIS MORNING AND TO PRESENT THE BRIEFING ABOUT THE TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS PLANNED BUDGET FOR 2728. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PRESENTATION TO COVER THE MISSION STATEMENT THE TABLE OF CONTENT AND A FEW STATISTICS, AND THEN WE'LL GET INTO THE BUDGET. SO NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO GUS, JUST FOR A SECOND, PULL THE MIC CLOSER AND SPEAK RIGHT INTO THE MIC. OKAY. IS THAT BETTER? OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO OUR MISSION AGAIN IS TO PROVIDE A SAFE, MULTIMODAL TRANSPORTATION SYSTEM THAT IS RELIABLE, EFFICIENT, EQUITABLE, SUSTAINABLE AND RESILIENT. AND THE MOST IMPORTANT PART OF IT HERE IS THE FACT THAT IT IS ALL COVERS ALL MOBILITY OPTIONS AND SOLUTIONS FOR THE CITY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO WE WILL GO THROUGH THE PURPOSE THE BACKGROUNDS AND FACTS. THE 2728 BUDGET KEY PRIORITIES AND INITIATIVES. THE STREET MAINTENANCE AND THE MOVING FORWARD APPROACH. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. NEXT SLIDE. OKAY. SO AS NOTED WE WILL GO THROUGH THE FACTS AND FIGURES FIRST. THE BACKGROUND ON THE DEPARTMENT, THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION IS ORGANIZED INTO SEVEN MAIN FUNCTIONS COVERING THE PLANNING, THE DESIGN, THE CONSTRUCTION, AND RIGHT OF WAY MANAGEMENT STREET MAINTENANCE, TRAFFIC OPERATIONS SUPPORT SERVICES THAT INCLUDE PARKING MANAGEMENT AND TRANSPORTATION REGULATIONS AND THE INTERAGENCY MANAGEMENT. THE TOTAL NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT WE HAVE FOR 2027 IS 741. BROKEN DOWN IN UNDER GENERAL FUNDS AT 611. INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS 124. AND THE TRANSPORTATION REGULATION IS SIX. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE DEPARTMENT OF TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS MANAGES ABOUT 11,700 LANE MILES OF ROADWAYS WITH 66,200 LANE MILES OF ASPHALT ROADWAYS AND 5500 LANE MILES OF CONCRETE PAVEMENT. WE HAVE ABOUT 1400 MILES OF ALLEYS, 4500 MILES OF SIDEWALKS. 648 BRIDGES. 4483 TRAFFIC SIGNALS AS OF THE END OF JULY. 1600 MILES OF LONG LINE STRIPING, WHICH ARE THE SKIP LINES THAT YOU WILL SEE ON ROADWAYS. 92 MILES OF BIKE LANES. ABOUT 33,500 ON STREET METERED PARKING SPACES. AND WE HAVE PROCESSED ABOUT 1500 RIGHT OF WAY PERMITS AS OF AUGUST 19TH, 2026. WE ALSO HAVE ABOUT 9700 CROSSWALKS AND 8600 STOP BARS. 2700 PAVEMENT LEGENDS THAT ARE THE TURNING ARROWS AND SO ON. APPROXIMATELY 150,000 TRAFFIC SIGNS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE HAVE ALMOST 2000 CITY OWNED STREET LIGHTS OUT OF THE ALMOST 97,000 STREETLIGHTS THAT WE HAVE IN THE CITY. ENCORE MANAGES THE OTHER 73,000, AND WE DO HAVE TWO DESIGNATED TUNNELS, WHICH ARE KLYDE, WARREN AND HALPRIN THAT CAPS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS IS THE THIRD LARGEST [00:10:06] DEPARTMENT USER OF GENERAL FUNDS BEHIND DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND DALLAS FIRE RESCUE. OUR BUDGET FOR FY 27 MAKE UP ABOUT 7.8% OF THE GENERAL FUNDS. AND THESE THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR FY 27 SHOWS $159,475,000. AND FOR FY 28 IS $164,000,131. THE BUDGET SUMMARY FOR ALL THE OPERATION WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS. SO FOR FY 27, IT WAS AGAIN, AS I MENTIONED, 159475 IN THE TP COMPONENT WE HAVE THE TRANSPORTATION REGULATIONS AT 714 000 AND THE TP W INTERNAL SERVICE FUND PRIMARILY FROM THE BOND AT 16 MILLION, FOR A TOTAL OF 176, 993 IN 2026, 2027, AND ABOUT 182,000,000 IN 2728. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO. THE KEY BUDGET PRIORITIES AND AND INITIATIVES WE HAVE THAT WE'RE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE THE OBJECTIVE OF IMPROVING AND MAINTAINING ABOUT 800 LANE MILES IN FY 2627 WITH $142 MILLION IN FUNDING. WE'RE PLANNING ON INCREASING THE FUNDING FOR PAVEMENT MARKINGS FROM 3.7 MILLION TO 5.2 MILLION IN FY 2627. AND TO INCREASE THE BRIDGE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR FUNDING FROM 4.4 MILLION IN FY 2526 TO ABOUT 7.3 MILLION IN FY 2728 TO SUPPORT THE ONGOING INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE, OF THE BRIDGES, I THINK. CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT. YEAH. NEXT SLIDE. AND THEN WE WILL DO, WE WILL CONTINUE TO CONSTRUCT 50 WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS IN THE CITY AND DESIGN ADDITIONAL 20 ADDITIONAL SIGNALS TO ADVANCE THE CONSTRUCTION OF ANOTHER 30. THE KEY ANOTHER KEY BUDGET PRIORITIES INITIATIVES. WE WILL CONTINUE TO IMPLEMENT PHASE ONE OF THE DALLAS BIKE PLAN, INCLUDING SIX ADDITIONAL MILES IN FY 27 THAT ALIGN WITH THE CITY'S VISION OF A CONNECTED BICYCLE NETWORK. ONE OF THE KEY IMPORTANT INITIATIVES FOR NEXT YEAR NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL BE THE PROCUREMENT OF A NEW ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM, WHICH WILL ALLOW THE ENGINEERS TO COMMUNICATE AND MANAGE THE 1500 TRAFFIC SIGNAL INTERSECTIONS. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY ON THIS ITEM IS THE ABILITY TO HAVE TRANSIT SIGNAL PRIORITY AS WELL AS THE PREEMPTION SYSTEM FOR THE EMERGENCY RESPONSE. AND THIS IS A CRITICAL FUNCTION FOR PUBLIC SAFETY AS WELL AS TRAFFIC OPERATION. WE WILL CONTINUE TO INVEST $1.5 MILLION IN DIRECT FUNDING INTO THE VISION ZERO TO SUPPORT THE OTHER PROGRAMS THAT MAKE UP THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS OF THE VISION ZERO PLAN AND TO LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR PROJECTS. AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO MODERNIZE AND REPLACE THE REMAINING 900 NON-SMART PARKING METERS TO MAXIMIZE THE REVENUE AND IMPROVE THE OVERALL PROGRAM EFFICIENCY. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR OVERVIEW THE COMMUNITY SURVEY IDENTIFIED MAINTENANCE OF INFRASTRUCTURE AS THE NUMBER ONE PRIORITY. AND WE HAVE TO THIS POINT HAVE BEEN USING THE FY 2428 INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM REPORT AS THE BASIS FOR OUR ACTIONS. THE FY 27 STREET MAINTENANCE WORK PLAN WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE, AS WE NORMALLY DO ON THE FIRST MEETING IN OCTOBER. SO WE WILL BE PRESENTING THAT BASED ON THE WHAT THE RESULTS OF THE BUDGET AND HOW THEY WERE ALLOCATING ALL THESE FUNDS. THE FY 26 MAINTENANCE STREET MAINTENANCE PLAN IS ALREADY AGAIN, PRESENTED TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE QUARTERLY MEETINGS AND INCLUDES THE WORK PLAN AS [00:15:04] WELL AS THE PROGRESS THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO ON THE NEXT SLIDE, WE SHOW THE VARIOUS TYPES OF TREATMENTS WITHIN THE CITY THAT WE'RE PURSUING AS PART OF THE PAVEMENT TREATMENT. SO ONE OF THEM IS THE PREVENTATIVE TREATMENT, WHICH IS ABOUT 3 TO 8 YEARS. AND THESE ARE WHAT WE CALL THE MICROSCALE OR THE CEILING OF THE ROADWAY. AND THE COST RANGE GOES FROM ABOUT $19,000 TO $30,000 PER LANE MILE. THE MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR, WHICH IS A PARTIAL REPAIR AND, AND THE FULL DEPTH REPAIRS OF THE PAVEMENT WE AVERAGE ABOUT BETWEEN 108 TO $270,000 PER LANE MILE ON THE RESURFACING, WHICH MEANS THAT THIS IS JUST REMOVAL OF THE PAVEMENT AND PUTTING IN NEW PAVEMENT. WE'RE AVERAGING ABOUT IF WE'RE COMPLETELY REPLACING A FULL MILE, ABOUT $800,000 PER MILE. AND IF WE'RE DOING JUST PARTIAL WE CAN GO AS LOW AS 250,000 DEPENDING ON THE CONDITIONS AND THE FULL RECONSTRUCTION. THAT MEANS BASICALLY REMOVING COMPLETELY REMOVING THE ROADWAY AND PUTTING IN BRAND NEW ROADWAY THAT INCLUDES ALL THE DRAINAGE AND ALL THE WORK THAT GOES WITH IT. WE'RE AVERAGING ON THE LOW END 860,000, BUT MORE REASONABLE NUMBER IS 200 AND I MEAN $2.5 MILLION PER LANE MILE. AND THIS IS WHAT THE THE COST IS. AND YESTERDAY IN ONE OF THE TOWN HALL MEETING, THE QUESTION WAS ASKED ABOUT THE ALLEY COST. SO I LOOKED IT UP AND WE'RE AVERAGING BETWEEN 600,000 AND $800,000 PER MILE OF ALLEY. AND THE ASSUMPTION HERE IS THE ALLEY WIDTH IS ABOUT TEN FEET. SO OBVIOUSLY IF IT IS WIDER, IT'LL COST US A LITTLE BIT MORE. AND THE HIGHER NUMBER INCLUDES SOME ADDITIONAL DRAINAGE IMPROVEMENTS BESIDE THE SURFACE RUNOFF. SO ON NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. ON THE STREET MAINTENANCE AND REPAIR FUNDING SOURCES, THE GENERAL FUNDS FOR FY 27 IN PROPOSED, WE HAVE ABOUT 65 MILLION IN THE GENERAL FUNDS AND THE COMBINATION OF BOND AND GMP. GMP, WE HAVE ABOUT 77 MILLION. THAT'S WHERE THE $142 MILLION NUMBER IS COMING FROM. AND ALSO WE'RE SHOWING THE, THE BREAKDOWN FROM THE 800 LANE MILES 736 WILL BE FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS AND 64 MILES WILL BE FROM THE FROM THE POND. THIS IS FOR FY 27 AND FY 28. WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING ALMOST THE SAME AT 800 LANE MILES. THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. SO THIS SLIDE SHOWS THE CHART HISTORICAL CHART GOING BACK FROM FY 23 WHEN WE DID 769 810, FY 25725. THEN FY 788 800. COUPLE OF THINGS ON THIS SLIDE. NUMBER ONE IS WE AS A DEPARTMENT HAVE BEEN OVER DELIVERING ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. SO WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OPTIMIZE THE WORK AND LOOK FOR OPPORTUNITIES. AND NUMBER TWO IS WHEN YOU SEE IN THE DIP HERE, ESPECIALLY LIKE IN THE FY 25 TIME FRAME, THIS IS COINCIDING WITH THE END OF THE 2017 BOND FUNDING FOR RESURFACING AND THE KICK OFF OF THE FY 24, I MEAN, OF THE 24 BOND. SO IT TAKES THERE IS A LAG BEHIND IT. AND THAT'S WHY YOU WILL SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DIP HERE. AND I EXPECT THAT UNLESS THINGS CHANGE PRETTY MUCH WE MAY SEE SIMILAR DEAL IN THE OUTER YEARS BEYOND 28. SO NEXT SLIDE GOING, MOVING FORWARD FOR FY 2627 WE WILL CONTINUE THE INTERNAL TP ORGANIZATIONAL INITIATIVES BY IMPLEMENTING INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS, BOTH AS A SYSTEM AND AS PROCESSES WITHIN THE CITY, WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. AND DEFINITELY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT THE WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT AND THE REALIGNMENT, IF YOU WILL, OF THE TYPE OF JOBS THAT WE WILL NEED GOING, MOVING FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. WE WILL CONTINUE TO ENHANCE THE COLLABORATION WITH INTERGOVERNMENTAL AGENCIES AND INTERNAL AND EXTERNAL STAKEHOLDERS. [00:20:06] THIS IS VERY KEY FOR US BECAUSE AS YOU'RE AWARE, WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF GRANTS THROUGH OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH OUR PARTNER AGENCIES, WHETHER IT BE AN NCT COG, TXDOT FEDERAL HIGHWAY, FEDERAL TRANSIT ADMINISTRATION, FEDERAL RAILROAD ADMINISTRATION. SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HERE. WE'RE GOING TO DEFINITELY PUSH FOR TO, FOR THE PROCUREMENT AND IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. THE ONLY HOLD UP HERE IS WE HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS ON IT. AND WHAT LIKE MY FRIEND MR. MORRIS LIKES TO SAY, THE GOOD NEWS. YOU HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS. THE BAD NEWS? YOU HAVE FEDERAL FUNDS. SO WE ARE AWAITING THE THE EXECUTION OF THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT. AND THE MOMENT I HAVE THAT AND WE HAVE THE FEDERAL LETTER OF AUTHORITY, WE'RE ADVERTISING THAT AND MOVING FORWARD. SO HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS WE WILL DEFINITELY CONTINUE TO MEET OR EXCEED THE NATIONAL PUBLIC WORKS STANDARDS ESTABLISHED BY THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WORKS ASSOCIATION AND TRY TO GET THAT CERTIFICATION SECURED CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON ENHANCING PROJECT DELIVERY. THIS IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. AND I'M PUTTING A LOT OF EMPHASIS ON THIS ONE HERE WHETHER IT BE IN USING THE CURRENT SYSTEMS THAT WE HAVE. WE CALL IT THE TRIAGE SYSTEM. SO THAT BASICALLY WE HAVE A DEFINITE START AND DEFINITE END. AND NOT ONLY THAT, TO HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT IS TRACKING FROM THE TRIAGE SYSTEM ONTO THE DASHBOARD FOR OUR RESIDENTS WHO WILL BE LOOKING AT THE STATUS OF THE PROJECTS, WHETHER IT BE IN 2017, BOND 2024 BOND TO BE READILY AVAILABLE AND VERY. RELIABLE AND THEN CONTINUE TO FOCUS ON IMPROVED MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONS OF OUR TRANSPORTATION ELEMENTS, INFRASTRUCTURE CONDITIONS AND CLEANING OF THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. SO WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES MY PRESENTATION. WE HAVE A FEW APPENDIX, I MEAN, THREE ITEMS IN THE APPENDIX THAT HAVE THE DEFINITIONS OF THE DIFFERENT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE AND RESURFACING AND RECONSTRUCTION, AND AS WELL AS THE DESCRIPTION OF OUR PROGRAMS. SO WITH THAT HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. ALRIGHT, MEMBERS, GO AHEAD AND CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. WE'RE ON A BRIEFING ITEM A OF TODAY'S BRIEFINGS. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. THIS IS A GREAT REPORT. I THINK WE'RE ALWAYS JUST OVERWHELMED WITH HOW MUCH YOUR DEPARTMENT ACCOMPLISHES. BUT ALSO HOW MUCH YOU HAVE TO ACCOMPLISH. I MEAN, THE, THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING. SO LET'S LOOK AT SLIDE 14. THE LAST BULLET POINT YOU SAID CONSTRUCT 50 WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS. ARE THOSE NEW TRAFFIC OR NEW AND REPLACEMENT OR WHAT IS THAT? SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION AND, AND ALLOW ME BEFORE I GET STARTED, I NEED TO INTRODUCE MEMBERS OF MY TEAM WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THE BRAIN TRUST BEHIND THE, THE BUDGET NUMBERS THAT SUPPORTS THE BUDGET OFFICE. SO CHRIS KAUFMAN IN OUR BUDGET OFFICE, MY DEPUTY DIRECTOR MR. CHARLIE SALAZAR, AND OUR PROGRAM MANAGER, MR. KENT AUSTIN, WHO ARE HELPING ME, AND CERTAINLY MY ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MR. RASTOGI. SO TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THE ANYTIME THAT YOU SEE WARRANTED SIGNALS, THESE ARE NEW LOCATIONS AND THESE ARE LOCATIONS THAT WE HAVE DONE WARRANT ANALYSIS ON THEM AND HAVE BEEN WARRANTED AT THOSE LOCATIONS. THAT'S GREAT NEWS. I MEAN, I, I GUESS I'M GETTING TO BE A FAN OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WHICH I WASN'T ALWAYS, BUT I KNOW THEY DO A LOT TO MANAGE TRAFFIC OVERALL. AND, AND WE CAN CERTAINLY USE THAT IN DISTRICT TEN. LET'S SEE. AND THEN THE COST FOR MAINTAINING THE TUNNELS. I JUST THINK THAT'S AN INTERESTING THING TO FOCUS ON. I THINK WE THINK OF THE PARKS THAT WE ARE ABLE TO CREATE WITH THE CAP, BUT I THINK WE OFTEN DON'T REALIZE THE COST AND THE EXPENSE OF MAINTAINING THE TUNNELS THAT WE CREATE WITH THAT CAP. MAYBE YOU HAD IT IN HERE, BUT CAN YOU GIVE ME AN IDEA OF WHAT TYPE OF MAINTENANCE HAPPENS THERE AND JUST A GENERAL SENSE OF COST? OKAY. VERY GOOD. SO I DON'T HAVE THE COST HERE, BUT I CAN, I, I, I CAN INFORM YOU THAT WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET. SO TWO THINGS. THE ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE A DEBT CAP ON A FREEWAY, WE HAVE TWO AGREEMENTS. ONE IS THE STRUCTURAL AGREEMENT, WHICH IS THE STRUCTURE ITSELF THAT THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS IS MANAGING. AND WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR. SO WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT GOES WRONG WITH THE STRUCTURE ON THESE CAPS. AND THEN THE SECOND PART OF THAT AGREEMENT IS THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF WHAT GOES ON THE DECK ITSELF. [00:25:10] SO AND THAT IS GENERALLY MANAGED BY THE PARKS DEPARTMENT WITH WHOMEVER IS THE OPERATOR OF THE OF THE PARK. RIGHT. WE ARE AT THIS POINT, I THINK, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, I HAVE KLYDE WARREN COST US ABOUT 1.2 MILLION PER YEAR. AND CURRENTLY HALPERIN PARK IS ABOUT 300 TO 400. REASON OF THE DISCREPANCY IS THAT HALPERIN PARK NOW, THEY CURRENTLY, THE LENGTH OF THE TUNNEL IS LESS THAN THE THRESHOLD THAT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE THE VENTILATION IN IT. KLYDE WARREN HAS THE VENTILATION. SO ONCE THEY COMPLETE PHASE TWO OF THE. AND COMPLETE THE CONSTRUCTION OF PHASE TWO TO TAKE IT FROM EWING TO MARSALIS, THAT'S WHEN WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO PUT. TO PUT IN THE JET FANS AND PUT IN ALL THE VENTILATION INSIDE, AND THAT'S WHEN THE PRICE WILL GO UP. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE IN THE BUDGET FOR FY 27 AND 28. SO WE'RE GRADUALLY ACCOUNTING FOR THAT. AND WE'LL REEVALUATE IT NEXT YEAR AND SEE HOW FAR THEY'RE PROGRESSING. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. AND LET'S SEE I THINK THAT JUST ONE OF THE OVERWHELMING NUMBERS IS THE COST OF EITHER THE MAINTENANCE OR THE REPAIR PER LANE MILE. I'M GOING TO PUT THAT IN MY NEWSLETTER. IT WOULD BE GREAT IF SOMEBODY WOULD GET THAT OUT IN THE MEDIA. I JUST, I DON'T, YOU KNOW, I HAVE PEOPLE ALL THE TIME SAY, WOULD YOU JUST FIX THE POTHOLE AND WHAT BUT WHAT THEY REALLY MEAN IS, WILL YOU COME FIX MY SECTION OF THE STREET? AND I JUST THINK WE DON'T HAVE A CONCEPT ON, ON HOW MUCH THAT COSTS. AND SO THIS IS AGAIN, VERY HELPFUL INFORMATION, HELPFUL FOR US TO EDUCATE OUR RESIDENTS A LITTLE BIT SO THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THIS. THIS IS NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF ASPHALT THAT YOU, YOU KNOW, PAINT ON OR PUT OUT THERE. IT'S, IT'S SIGNIFICANT IN TERMS OF THE PROCESS AND THEN OBVIOUSLY THE COST AS WELL. SO ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD TO THAT OR JUST. NO, I MEAN, I, I APPRECIATE THAT. I MEAN, THE ONE THING THAT WE HAVE DONE, AND AGAIN SINCE WE COMBINED THE TWO DEPARTMENT AND WE'RE LOOKING AT A NEW APPROACH IS THE FACT THAT WE ELIMINATED THE, FOR THE MOST PART, THIS PRACTICE OF DOING WHAT WE CALL AN ASPHALT OVERLAY OVER CONCRETE ROADWAYS, BECAUSE WHAT HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN THE PAST IS IN ORDER TO ADDRESS A STABILITY ISSUE IT WAS A PRACTICE TO DO THAT AND KIND OF SMOOTH OUT THE, THE SURFACE. BUT THEN THE PROBLEM IS THREE, FOUR YEARS DOWN THE LINE, IT MAKES IT EVEN WORSE BECAUSE NOW WHEN WE HAVE TO REPAIR IT, NOW I HAVE TO REPAIR ASPHALT AND CONCRETE AND THE COST SKYROCKETS. SO DO WE. DON'T PUT ASPHALT OVER CONCRETE ANY LONGER. WE'RE NO LONGER ENGAGED IN THAT TYPE OF TREATMENT UNLESS VERY SPECIFIC SITUATIONS THAT CAN BENEFIT FROM IT. SO IT'S NO LONGER A RULE OF THUMB OF DOING IT LIKE IT USED TO BE DONE. AND THEN THE OTHER THING IS IT HAS A OTHER IMPLICATIONS SAFETY IMPLICATIONS THAT WE DO NOT NECESSARILY YOU KNOW, LIKE TO SEE. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU DOCTOR CARLY. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR PRESENTATION, DOCTOR. CARLY. DIRECTING YOUR ATTENTION TO SLIDE 11, I NOTE THAT THE UPCOMING BUDGET PROVIDES $1.2 MILLION FOR BIKE LANES. WHAT WILL THAT BE USED FOR? IS THAT JUST FOR MAINTENANCE OF EXISTING BIKE LANES, OR WILL THAT INCLUDE CONSTRUCTION OF NEW LANE MILES? SO LET ME TAKE A STEP BACK OF WHAT WE WHAT WE GOT LAST TWO YEARS OF $2 MILLION, RIGHT? IN THE $2 MILLION THAT WE WERE GETTING, WE WERE ALLOCATING ABOUT $250,000 OF THAT TO PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND CREDIT TO THE CITY MANAGER. SHE HAS PROPOSED IN THE CURRENT BUDGET AN INCREASE OF ALMOST $1.5 MILLION OVER THE THRESHOLD, OVER THE LEVEL OF WHAT WE WERE LAST YEAR. AND THAT MONEY INCLUDES THE $250,000 FOR THE BIKE LANES BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT SINCE IF I'M GOING TO HAVE MY CONTRACTOR GO OUT AND DO THE LONG LANE REFRESH, MIGHT AS WELL JUST GO AHEAD AND ASK THEM TO INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THE DEAL TO TO DO THIS. ITEM NUMBER TWO IS ANOTHER $250,000 THAT WE ARE INSTEAD OF FUNDING IT FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS, [00:30:03] WE'RE FUNDING IT FROM THE GENERAL MOBILITY PROGRAM THAT FROM THE DART MONEY. WE'RE SAYING. SO THAT'S MAKING IT. THE THIRD ITEM, WHICH IS, AGAIN, CREDIT TO THE CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER AND THE BUDGET TEAM, IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE SHIFTED FROM A YEARLY ALLOCATION ON THE ON THE BICYCLE LANE ACCOUNT TO A MULTI-YEAR ACCOUNT. AND CURRENTLY I AM AT THE END OF THIS FISCAL YEAR, WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE AT THE $5 MILLION BALANCE. SO THEREFORE, IT WAS PRUDENT FOR US TO BASICALLY USE THE MONEY FOR MORE FOR PRIORITIES WHILE NOT IMPACTING THE PROGRAM. SO TO ANSWER THE QUESTION IS, WE ARE STILL ON TRACK TO DELIVER THE FIVE YEAR PROGRAM, AS WE STATED, AND THE PLANNED WORK FOR FY 2627 AND 2728. WE WILL BE DELIVERING THAT AND STILL HAVE SOME MONEY LEFT OVER. IF NOTHING CHANGES, AND CERTAINLY WE CAN ALWAYS EVALUATE AND LOOK AT WHERE THINGS STAND NEXT YEAR AND AND THE YEAR BEYOND. SO IN OTHER WORDS, THE ALTHOUGH THE GENERAL FUND ALLOCATION FOR TRAILS MAY APPEAR TO HAVE BEEN REDUCED THIS YEAR, IN ACTUALITY, YOU'LL HAVE FULL FUNDING IN LINE WITH WHAT WE DID THE PREVIOUS YEAR, BUT FROM DIFFERENT SOURCES. THAT IS CORRECT. ON THAT SAME SLIDE, UNDER STREET LIGHTING AND TUNNEL MANAGEMENT, I NOTICED THAT THERE'S ALMOST $22 MILLION BUDGETED. WHAT DOES THAT GO FOR? I KNOW IN RESPONSE TO THE PREVIOUS QUESTIONS, YOU SAID ABOUT $2 MILLION GOES FOR MAINTENANCE OF THE TUNNELS. SO WHAT IS SO EXPENSIVE ABOUT STREET LIGHTING? SO WE DO HAVE ABOUT 17 POINT SOMETHING MILLION DOLLARS. IS OUR ELECTRICITY BILL TO ONCOR TO PAY FOR THE STREETLIGHTS WE HAVE BECAUSE WE ENCORE MANAGES ABOUT 73,000 OR SO STREETLIGHTS FOR US. SO THAT'S WHERE ABOUT 17 MILLION PLUS OR MINUS. SO WE PAY ENCORE TO MAINTAIN 17. OR IS THAT JUST THE ELECTRICITY COST, THE ELECTRICITY COST, AND THE MAINTENANCE OF ALL THE LIGHTS THAT THEY MANAGE FOR US? OKAY. SO THAT BILL IS ABOUT 17 MILLION AND OUR COST TO MAINTAIN THE 24,000 IS ABOUT 3 MILLION. THANK YOU. LOOKING AT. ITEM 15, SLIDE 15. YOU TALK ABOUT THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. WHAT WILL THAT SYSTEM ENTAIL AND WHAT BENEFITS DO WE RECEIVE FROM THAT? SO I'M GOING TO SIMPLIFY IT. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY IT'S SIMILAR TO IF YOU HAVE AN OLD LAPTOP, I MEAN LAPTOP THAT IS FIVE YEARS OLD. SO IT'S AGING. SO OUR CURRENT SYSTEM IS NO LONGER BEING SUPPORTED TO START WITH. AND THE NEW SYSTEM WILL ALLOW US SEVERAL THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS YOU WILL HAVE INSTANT VIEW ON FOR THE 1500 TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT WE HAVE. NUMBER TWO, WE WILL HAVE A MODERNIZED ALERT SYSTEM. CURRENTLY IF WE HAVE A. FOR EXAMPLE, I'M JUST GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE OF ONE ITEM. IF WE HAVE A STORM AND SOME TRAFFIC SIGNALS GO. GO ON FLASH OR SOMETHING. I'M NOT GETTING THE ALERTS. WE HAVE TO MANUALLY GO INTO THE SYSTEM AND SEE WHICH ONES SORT IT OUT. DO A FILTER, IF YOU WILL, OF WHICH TRAFFIC SIGNALS ARE ON THE ON THE ON FLASH OR HAVE A PROBLEM. THE OTHER THING IS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE MAIN ROADWAYS, WE DO HAVE BATTERY BACKUP UNITS IN THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS ON MAIN CORRIDORS. SO FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, I'LL TAKE THAT ONE, WHICH IS ONE OF MY KEY INTERSECTIONS. ONE OF THEM IS ON LAKE JUNE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONE IS FRANKFORT AND AND PRESTON. SO THOSE TRAFFIC SIGNALS HAVE BATTERY BACKUP UNITS IN THEM. AND CURRENTLY IF THE POWER GOES OUT, THE SYSTEM DOESN'T ALERT ME THAT THE SIGNAL IS OPERATING ON BATTERY. IT WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE FOR TWO HOURS AND THEN IT GOES BLANK. THE NEW ATM SYSTEM WILL HAVE THAT INTEGRATED WITH IT SO THAT WHEN WE LOSE POWER AND THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL GOES ON BATTERY, THEN WE'RE ALERTED THAT IT IS OPERATING ON BATTERY. THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION ON THAT. AND SO IT'S A IT'S A BIG DEAL. IF WE GET IT. AND THEN CERTAINLY THE OTHER THING IS THE, THE, WHAT DO YOU CALL THE PREEMPTION FOR FIRST RESPONDERS? CURRENTLY, THE CITY OF DALLAS DOES NOT HAVE A PREEMPTION. SO WE HAVE LIKE AN AMBULANCE THAT'S TRYING TO GO THROUGH ANY OF THE INTERSECTIONS THAT HAVE TO BE HAVE TO RELY ON PEOPLE SEEING THEM, WHEREAS THE NEW ONE WILL BE CLOUD BASED. SO THERE WILL BE COMMUNICATION WITH THE CLOUD. [00:35:04] AND AS THE AMBULANCE APPROACHES THE INTERSECTION, THE INTERSECTION STARTS OPENING GREEN AND FLUSH THE SYSTEM TO GET THEM THROUGH. SO IT'S A, IT'S A, IT'S A HUGE THING. AND THIS IS WHY I LIKE LITERALLY EVERY DAY TRYING TO CALL TEX-DOT IS LIKE, WHERE'S MY ADVANCE FUNDING AGREEMENT? WE GOT TO GO. SO I UNDERSTAND THE ADVANCES THAT THIS NEW TECHNOLOGY WILL PROVIDE IN TERMS OF BEING ABLE TO BETTER MONITOR OUR TRAFFIC CONTROL SYSTEM. BUT DOES THIS PRESENT VULNERABILITIES TO HACKING? HAVING A CENTRALIZED SYSTEM THAT COULD TAKE CONTROL OF OUR TRAFFIC SIGNALS. DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT RISK AND ARE YOU ADDRESSING IT? I DON'T NEED TO KNOW SPECIFIC STRATEGIES, BUT IS IT SOMETHING YOU'RE ADDRESSING? THAT IS ABSOLUTELY AT THE CORE OF OUR WORK, AND I'M WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE IT DEPARTMENT TO HAVE A ROBUST SECURITY SYSTEM. THAT CYBER SECURITY SYSTEM, IF YOU WILL, THAT PROTECTS THE SYSTEM. OKAY. GLAD TO HEAR THAT. NOW, TRADITIONALLY, THERE HAS BEEN A SEVEN YEAR CYCLE FOR RESTRIPING CROSSWALKS WITH THE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT PURPOSE, WILL YOU BE ABLE TO REDUCE THAT CYCLE TIME PERIOD? WELL, BASED ON THE CURRENT FUNDING AND THANK YOU FOR APPROVING THE ITEM YESTERDAY ON COUNCIL. WE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT. AND THEN NOT ONLY THAT, LET'S REMEMBER WE HAVE ALMOST 200 TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE GETTING READY TO GO FOR RECONSTRUCTION. AND WHEN WE RECONSTRUCT THOSE, ALL OF THEM ARE GOING TO GET BRAND NEW CROSSWALKS AND ADA RAMPS AT THE CORNERS, AND WE HAVE ABOUT ANOTHER 200 UNDER DESIGN RIGHT NOW. SO. PART OF THE UPGRADES TO THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS ON THE CROSSWALKS WILL INCLUDE. IS COVERED IN THE RECONSTRUCTION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS OTHER THAN THE ATMS SYSTEM. WHAT IMPACT DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN THE NEXT TWO FISCAL YEARS FROM TECHNOLOGICAL INNOVATION IN YOUR DEPARTMENT SPECIFICALLY AI OR ANY OTHER NEW TECHNOLOGIES THAT YOU SEE COMING ON IN TERMS OF ENHANCING YOUR EFFICIENCY TRAFFIC SAFETY, ETC.. OKAY, SO I'LL SPLIT IT INTO TWO THINGS. ONE IS THE INTERNAL OPERATION AND THE OTHER ONE IS MORE OF OUR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS. SO ON THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, AND I THINK I PRESENTED THIS TO THIS BODY BEFORE IS WE REALLY NEED, AND I STRONGLY RECOMMEND THAT THIS BODY APPROVES A DATA GOVERNANCE POLICY THAT DISCUSSES THE PRIVACY OF THE DATA THAT IS BEING COLLECTED, HOW, WHERE IT IS TO BE STORED, WHO OWNS IT, WHO CAN USE IT, AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE I'M WORKING WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO BRING THIS ITEM TO COUNCIL. IT HAS TO BE DONE, IN MY OPINION, BECAUSE WHEN YOU TRY TO DEPLOY AI CAMERAS ON THE ROADWAYS, THEY'RE COLLECTING DATA. AND THE QUESTION IS WHO'S WHO'S MANAGING THAT DATA? YEAH, THERE IS THE ADVANTAGE OF IT, OF YOU KNOW, DETERMINING NEAR MISSES AT SOME LOCATIONS WHERE WE'RE NOT SEEING IT AT THE MOMENT BECAUSE WE'RE PRIMARILY REACTIVE VERSUS BEING PROACTIVE. SO THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR US BEFORE WE GO FULL THROTTLE AHEAD ON THE AI DEPLOYMENT. IN THE FIELD AS FAR AS INTERNALLY IS CONCERNED. CERTAINLY WE'RE LOOKING AT IMPROVEMENTS TO THE PROCESSES. YOU KNOW, UPGRADING OF OUR DATABASES SO THAT WE DON'T HAVE TO DO ANY MANUAL WORK AND MOVE AWAY FROM THAT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO DO SOME TRAINING OF OUR FIELD TECHNICIANS TO START USING LIKE THE IPADS AND, AND SO ON SO THAT THEY CAN INPUT ALL THEIR INFORMATION DIRECTLY AND IT IS CAPTURED WITHOUT HAVING TO DO PAPERWORK. SO THESE ARE EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. DO YOU ANTICIPATE IN THE FUTURE THAT AI WILL REDUCE YOUR MANPOWER NEEDS? WE FOR THE MOST PART, I MEAN, IF YOU LOOK AT MY PERSONNEL COSTS, WE'RE AT 50 MILLION FOR 170 SOMETHING MILLION DOLLAR OPERATION. SO WE ARE AT 29%. SO FROM A PERSONAL STANDPOINT, PRETTY MUCH I'M BARE BONED AT THE MOMENT. HOWEVER, HAVING SAID THAT, THERE WILL BE OPPORTUNITIES FOR A FEW MORE POSITIONS THAT COULD BE REASSIGNED TO SOMETHING ELSE. SO DOES YOUR STAFFING LEVELS INCLUDE SUFFICIENT TRANSPORTATION OR TRAFFIC ENGINEERS? I KNOW YOU'VE HAD TROUBLE RECRUITING THEM IN THE PAST. WHAT'S YOUR PLAN THERE? SO CURRENTLY WE'RE STILL STRUGGLING WITH THAT. [00:40:04] SO WE'RE WORKING CLOSELY WITH OUR HR TO AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS TO START. FOR EXAMPLE, I'M WORKING WITH DALLAS WATER UTILITIES TO LOOK AT THE CLASSIFICATION OF ELECTRICIANS AND ELECTRONIC TECHNICIANS, BECAUSE THE THING ABOUT IT IS, IS THINGS ARE CHANGING AND NOT EVERY ELECTRICAL TECHNICIAN IS CREATED EQUAL. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT AND TO REDEFINE IT. BUT DEFINITELY WE HAVE BEEN STRUGGLING AND HONESTLY CREDIT THE STAFF. I MEAN, IT'S AMAZING THAT WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO OPERATE WITH AT 60, 70% CAPACITY. WILL AI BE ABLE TO SATISFY SOME OF YOUR NEEDS FOR THAT KIND OF ENGINEERING DESIGN? NOT TO THE EXTENT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE WHY. FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN A TRAFFIC SIGNAL GOES ON FLASH AFTER A STORM, RIGHT? IT'S NOT BECAUSE I CANNOT PUT IT BACK IN IN WHAT WE CALL IT IN WORKING COLORS FROM THE OFFICE. BUT THE LESSON LEARNED FROM THE TORNADO AND A FEW OTHER STORMS IS THAT WE HAD SITUATIONS LIKE ONE TIME IT WAS ON GARLAND ROAD WHEREBY THE SIGNAL HEAD WAS TURNED FACING THE WRONG DIRECTION, BUT THE SIGNAL WAS STILL OPERATING. WE WERE LOOKING AT IT ON THE SYSTEM THAT IT WAS LIKE OPERATING FINE, BUT TECHNICALLY IT WASN'T BECAUSE THE SIGNAL HEAD WAS TURNED. SO WE'RE VERY CAREFUL ABOUT TRYING TO RE OPERATE THE SIGNAL WITHOUT HAVING EYES ON IT. AND BY DOING SO WE'RE TRYING TO DEPLOY CAMERAS AT THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS SO THAT WE CAN VIEW IT FROM THE CAMERA AND HAVE A FULL VIEW OF THE INTERSECTION AND SEE WHAT THE SIGNAL IS DOING. AND THEN BY DOING SO, WE CAN REALIZE EFFICIENCIES. SO DO YOU SEE ANY EFFICIENCIES IN USE OF AI TO HELP DESIGN TRAFFIC INFRASTRUCTURE? IT COULD BE, IT COULD BE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE WE FEEL CONFIDENT IN TRYING TO IN, IN DEPLOYING IT. WELL, I WOULD THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE A PRIORITY SINCE IT IS PROVING TO BE DIFFICULT TO HIRE MANPOWER THAT IS LICENSED ENGINEERS, IF YOU CAN REPLACE IT WITH THESE KINDS OF AUTOMATED SYSTEMS THAT MIGHT ALLEVIATE SOME OF YOUR STAFFING ISSUES. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT BOTHERS CONSTITUENTS THE MOST IS WHEN YOU PAVE A NEW STREET, BEAUTIFUL CONCRETE PAVEMENT, NEW CURBS, GUTTERS, SIDEWALKS. AND THEN THE NEXT WEEK A UTILITY COMES BY AND TEARS IT UP. WHAT CAN WE DO TO BETTER IMPROVE COORDINATION WITH UTILITIES SO THAT THEY CAN DO THEIR UTILITY WORK DURING CONSTRUCTION INSTEAD OF AFTER? SO THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS AGAIN TO THAT. ONE IS THE EMERGENCY ONE AND ONE IS THE REGULAR KIND OF WORK. SO THE EMERGENCY AS AS YOU KNOW, WE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF UNDERGROUND UTILITIES, WHETHER WATER, WASTEWATER AND OR GAS OR EVEN ELECTRICITY AND COMMUNICATION. SOMETIMES THEY MAY HAVE AN EMERGENCY WORK THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE AND THEY HAVE TO CUT THE ROADWAY PAVEMENT. AND SO THESE VERY MINIMAL CONTROL ON THE REGULAR ONES. SO FOR EXAMPLE, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IN US. WE ALWAYS COORDINATE ON ANY PROJECT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, ONE OF THE REASONS. WE'RE BEHIND A LITTLE BIT ON THE RECONSTRUCTION OF OF SEGMENTS ON HILLCREST IN DISTRICT 13, 14 AND 12 IS THE FACT THAT WE ARE AWARE THAT DALLAS WATER UTILITIES HAVE SOME WORK IN THOSE AREAS. SO EVEN THOUGH THAT WE KNOW AND WE ARE AWARE THAT WE'VE GOT PAVEMENTS THAT IS FALLING, FAILING, THEN WE'RE NOT GOING TO GO IN AND PUT IN BRAND NEW PAVEMENT AND THEN HAVE TO BE RIPPED OUT. SO, AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE BETTER COMMUNICATION WITH, WITH ATMOS AND ONCOR AND OTHERS AND HOPEFULLY ALSO TWO THINGS, TWO MORE THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS WHEN THESE AGREEMENTS COME TO RENEWAL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE A SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS ABOUT THE STEEL PLATES AND HOW THEY'RE CUTTING THE ROADWAYS AND SO ON. AND NUMBER TWO IS THE FACT THAT WE HAVE CHANGED OUR STANDARDS ON THE REPAIR AND WE'RE CHANGING ALSO THE TYPE OF PAVEMENT THAT WE'RE USING ON THESE ROADWAYS. WELL, I THINK THAT'S CRITICAL. OUR CONSTITUENTS EXPECT THAT WHEN THE UTILITIES HAVE TO TEAR UP A NEW STREET, THAT THEY'RE OBLIGATED TO REPLACE THAT WHOLE WITH LIKE PAVEMENT METHODS. AND MANY TIMES WE SEE ASPHALT COVERING A HOLE IN A NEW CONCRETE STREET THAT'S HUMPED UP. [00:45:02] IT'S A IT CREATES A BUMP IN THE ROAD. AND I ASSUME THAT THOSE ARE JUST TEMPORARY REPAIRS. BUT ARE YOU ENFORCING THAT REQUIREMENT? SO NOW WE'RE TRYING TO GET WE'RE ALMOST FULLY STAFFED IN THE RIGHT OF WAY MANAGEMENT. AND THERE IS A CURRENT ORDINANCE THAT SAYS YOU KNOW, YOU'RE LIABLE UP TO FIVE YEARS. HOWEVER, IN ORDER TO DO THAT, I HAVE TO UPGRADE MY SYSTEM TO MAKE SURE THAT THE DATABASE THAT I HAVE IS RELIABLE BECAUSE I HAVE TURNOVER IN STAFF. I MAY REMEMBER SOMETHING, BUT THE NEXT DAY, SOMEONE ELSE WHO MAY TAKE OVER MAY NOT KNOW. SO A LOT OF TIMES THERE ARE SOME OF THESE REPAIRS ARE FALLING THROUGH THE CRACKS OF NOT GOING BACK AND, AND FOLLOWING UP ON IT. SO IT'S STAFFING AND SYSTEMS. SYSTEM OF ALERT. AND NUMBER THREE IS COMMUNICATING WITH ALL THE FIRMS, IF YOU WILL, ORGANIZATIONS, WHETHER IT BE IN ATMOS, ENCORE D W US FOR SUMMARY. I MEAN, IN SOME CASES INTERNALLY TO DO A BETTER JOB IN DOING THAT. THANK YOU. AND I JUST WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO GUS'S COMMENTS. HE HAS HE AND HIS TEAM DO A GOOD JOB OF COORDINATING WITH THESE DIFFERENT ENTITIES. ALSO AT A LEADERSHIP LEVEL, WE HAVE STARTED QUARTERLY PARTNER AGENCY MEETINGS. SO THIS IS AN ITEM THAT WE BRING UP AT THOSE QUARTERLY MEETINGS WITH ENCORE AND ATMOS. SO WE'RE BRINGING THOSE UTILITIES TOGETHER, EXPRESSING THESE CONCERNS. AND THEY ARE CERTAINLY VERY AWARE THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PAYING ATTENTION TO. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU. AND THEN FINALLY THE BUDGET, WHAT FUNDS ARE INCLUDED IN THE BUDGET FOR TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. SO TRAFFIC CALMING MEASURES. I KNOW WE HAVE ABOUT $2 MILLION DEDICATED TO TRAFFIC CALMING IN ADDITION TO THE STAFFING AND, AND SO ON. SO IS THAT A SEPARATE LINE ITEM OR PARTS OF OTHER LINE ITEMS? WHERE DOES THAT SHOW UP? YEAH, IT IS PART OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. ENGINEERING INCLUDES THAT'S THE 3.2 MILLION. THAT INCLUDES $2 MILLION DEDICATION TO TRAFFIC CALMING. OKAY. THANK YOU, DOCTOR KENKEL SIR. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MR. RIDLEY HAD SOME GOOD QUESTIONS. I'M GOING TO PIGGYBACK ON A FEW OF THEM AND SWITCH MINE AROUND A BIT. ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS I GET TO IN MY DISTRICT WHEN IT COMES TO ROADS AND STREETS IS WHEN ATMOS OR AT&T OR SOMEONE COMES IN AND RIPS UP THE STREETS. I PROBABLY HEAR FROM A RESIDENT ABOUT ONCE A MONTH ON IT, AND IT'S USUALLY RESIDENTS THAT DON'T EVER CALL ME FOR ANYTHING ELSE. I LIKE WHAT YOUR ANSWER WAS, GUS, TO THAT THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU DO HAVE THESE QUARTERLY MEETINGS. YOU DO MEET WITH THE DIFFERENT UTILITIES. I'D LIKE US TO DO BETTER THAN BE THE REACTIVE. I'D LOVE TO SEE US USE EITHER AI OR DATA ANALYTICS OR SOMEONE TO ANTICIPATE WHAT'S COMING OUR WAY FROM ATMOS OR FROM DWU OR WHAT HAVE YOU AND ACTUALLY NOT, I MEAN, WE DEFINITELY NEED TO HOLD THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BUT LET'S GET IN FRONT OF IT. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE. I WAS I WAS RUNNING LAST WEEK BEFORE THE TOE BREAK, AND THERE IS ATMOS HAS MARKED UP ALL ALONG BECKLEY AVENUE ON THE WEST SIDE, JUST SOUTH OF I 30, THAT THEY'RE GOING TO BE DIGGING IT UP AND, AND PUTTING IN A LINE OR FIXING A LINE THAT IS AN AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE A SIDEWALK FOR PART OF IT. AND FOR THE PARTS THAT DOES HAVE A SIDEWALK, IT'S GOT TREE ROOTS COMING OUT OF IT. AND IT'S A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE THAT CONNECTS DIRECTLY TO COONS CREEK TRAIL. I WILL BE EMAILING YOU ABOUT THIS SCENARIO. BECAUSE I'D LOVE FOR US TO GET IN FRONT OF IT, TALK WITH ATMOS, AND BEFORE THEY COME IN AND DO THEIR PATCHWORK REPAIRS, WE FIND THE MONEY TO HOPEFULLY MARRY THAT UP SINCE IT'S ALREADY GOING TO BE TORN UP TO FIX THE SIDEWALK. THAT'S ONE EXAMPLE THAT I'D LOVE TO SEE US DO THROUGHOUT THE REST OF THE CITY. AND IS THERE SOMETHING IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT WHEN THERE'S ROAD WORK THAT'S BEEN, YOU KNOW, THAT WE KNOW IS GOING TO BE MESSED UP WHERE WE CAN COME IN AND ACTUALLY BE PROACTIVE ABOUT TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THAT CONSTRUCTION THAT'S HAPPENING. SO ON THE IN OUR INTERNAL OPERATION ON PAVEMENT RESTORATION AND OR RESURFACING, ANYTIME THAT WE HAVE THAT SITUATION STAFF FROM THE REPAIR PAVEMENT REPAIR AS WELL AS OUR PLANNING STAFF THAT DOES THE BIKE LANES AND SO ON. THEY ARE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION. SO THAT BEFORE WE PUT BACK THE THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS AND IF IT IS ON THE BIKE LANE, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE DONE INTERNALLY, [00:50:01] WE'RE TRYING TO MAXIMIZE THAT OPPORTUNITY AND PUT IT IN. SO SO WE'RE MAKING, LIKE I SAID, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS. WE'RE, WE'RE THERE ARE SOME GAPS STILL, BUT WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. OKAY. CHAIR WEST, I WOULD ADD THAT YOU KNOW, WE, WE HAVE A MECHANISM TO KEEP THE COUNCIL INFORMED THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE ABOUT OUR PLANNED WORK. AND YOU KNOW, GUS AND I CAN TALK OFFLINE ABOUT A WAY TO PERHAPS INCORPORATE SOME OF THE WORK THAT IS BEING DONE BY OUR UTILITY PARTNERS AND HOW WE'RE PARTNERING WITH THEM THROUGH THOSE QUARTERLY REPORTS, BUT APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. THANK YOU. I WILL JUMP TO BIKE LANES. I'VE HEARD YOUR ANSWER TO MR. RIDLEY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I REALLY NEED TO GET IT IN WRITING TO UNDERSTAND, AND I'VE SUBMITTED QUESTIONS ON AUGUST 21ST. IF YOU HAVE RESPONDED TO THAT PLEASE LET ME APOLOGIZE, BUT I NEED A BREAKDOWN SO I CAN EXPLAIN IT TO MY BIKE ADVOCATES ON HOW FUNDS WILL BE SHIFTED OVER ON THE RESURFACING TO COMPENSATE AND KEEP US ON TRACK FOR OUR, FOR MEETING THE BIKE LANE BIKE PLAN. THANK YOU, MR. BICYCLE. WE ARE SO EXCITED THAT THE WAY WE'RE HANDLING THE MULTI YEAR FUND IS GOING TO ALLOW FOR THE COMMITMENT THAT COUNCIL MADE AGAINST THE BIKE PLAN FOR US ACTUALLY TO EITHER MEET OR EXCEED IT. I THINK WHAT MR. LEE HAS EXPLAINED IS THAT WE HAVE DEVELOPED SOME ADDITIONAL EFFICIENCIES IN THE DELIVERY, EVEN OF THE BIKE LANES, AND THAT'S ONE OF THE WAYS THAT I THINK WE HAD NOT TALKED ABOUT BEFORE. WHEN MR. LEE TALKS ABOUT THE THE MAINTENANCE AND HOW WE'RE LOOKING AT THE ONGOING PAINTING THAT'S NEEDED ON THE BIKE LANES, WE WANT TO DO THAT AS PART OF AN OVERALL STRATEGY, NOT AS A ONE OFF. IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE KNOW THAT WE'VE GOT TO CONTINUE WITH THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN OF THE NEW. WITH THE FUNDING THAT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AND THE WAY WE'RE PLANNING IT IN THE BUDGET. COUNCIL MEMBER WES, WE'RE NOT DEPARTING AWAY FROM THAT COMMITMENT. WE'RE GIVING YOU A STRATEGY THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO DO IT USING FUNDS THAT WE HAVE ALREADY IN THE MULTIYEAR ADDITIONAL FUNDING TO WHERE WE STAY ON TRACK. SO THIS IS NOT A THIS IS NOT A SLOW DOWN AND IT'S NOT A MOVEMENT AWAY FROM THE BIKE LANE. I THINK THERE'S A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MILES PER YEAR IN ORDER TO GET TO THAT FIVE YEAR, I THINK A TOTAL OF 44. CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, MR. CARLEY, THIS FUNDING AND THE STRATEGY THAT WE'VE LAID OUT ALLOWS FOR US TO DO IT AND CONTINUE THE MAINTENANCE OF THE OVERALL LANES THAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. SO I GUESS IF YOU WANT TO BREAK IT DOWN EVEN FURTHER, THAT WAS THE REASON WHY I WAS WILLING TO SUPPORT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT CAME FROM THE DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT WAS GOING TO ALLOW FOR US TO STAY ON TRACK. THAT IS CORRECT, MA'AM. AND, AND WE ARE ON TRACK TO DELIVER, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER. AND WE CERTAINLY WE ARE IN RECEIPT OF THE MEMO AND WE WILL BE RESPONDING TO THAT MEMO. THAT'S HELPFUL. AND I KNOW WHEN WE MET MADAM CITY MANAGER, YOU, LED OFF WITH THAT TOO, BECAUSE YOU KNEW THAT WAS GOING TO BE ONE OF MY QUESTIONS. SO I THINK WHAT WOULD BE HELPFUL FOR THE ADVOCATES, AND THERE'S A LOT OF THEM IN MY DISTRICT, IS TO LAY OUT THE TIMELINE AND SHOW HOW WE'RE GOING TO STAY ON TRACK. SO WHEREVER THE MONEY COMES FROM, YOU KNOW, Y'ALL ARE GOING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. BUT THE BUT AS LONG AS WE STAY ON THE TIMELINE, WE GET THE MILES DONE. I THINK THAT SOLVES THE PROBLEM. AND COUNCIL MEMBER WEST, AS WE RESPOND TO YOUR QUESTIONS, BECAUSE I KNOW SOME OF THEM ARE MORE DIRECT. LET US DO THAT, AND THEN WE CAN ACTUALLY PUT TOGETHER A FACT SHEET THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT ALL OF OUR BICYCLE LANE ADVOCATES TRULY UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING. SO IT'S DEFINITELY NOT A MOVEMENT AWAY. IT'S A DIFFERENT STRATEGY THAT ALLOWS FOR US TO HONOR THE COMMITMENT OF DELIVERING THOSE MILES IN THE FIVE YEAR PLAN. CAN WE GET THAT BEFORE THE BUDGET VOTE? WE SURE CAN. IN FACT, I'M GOING TO DO MY VERY BEST TO HAVE THE QUESTIONS ANSWERED BY THIS WEEK. AWESOME. THANK YOU. GUS, WHERE WILL FUNDING COME FROM FOR AN ALTERNATIVE BIKE LANE WHEN THE JEFFERSON VIADUCT IS REROUTED DURING THE CONVENTION CENTER CONSTRUCTION? IS THAT CONVENTION CENTER MONEY OR TRANSPORTATION? PUBLIC WORKS. SO WE'RE STILL WORKING ON THAT FUNDING MECHANISM. BUT THE OVERALL IDEA IS TO RESTORE THE OPERATION IS TO IS TO WHAT RESTORE THE THE OPERATION OF THE BIKE LANES. OKAY. I JUST NEED TO KNOW BEFORE THE BUDGET VOTE WHERE, WHERE THE MONEY'S COMING FROM FOR THE REROUTE RECONSTRUCTION. OKAY. SO YOUR PRESENTATION WAS GREAT. LAID OUT EVERYTHING VERY EASY TO FIND. ONE THING THAT I HARDLY SAW MENTIONED AT ALL IN HERE WAS SIDEWALKS. [00:55:02] AND THERE'S REFERENCE TO CROSSWALKS IN HERE. AND, AND THEN I DIDN'T SEE A LOT OF REFERENCE TO ADA RAMPS. WHAT PROGRAM DESCRIPTION TAKES CARE OF THE SIDEWALKS AND WHAT PROGRAM NAME? SO WE'VE GOT LITTLE MONEY IN. LET ME TAKE IT BACK. SO WE DO HAVE IN THE 2024 BOND. ABOUT $18 MILLION IN SIDEWALK FUNDING OUT OF WHICH THERE IS ABOUT 20%, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, SPECIFICALLY FOR SENIORS, THAT THE CITY WILL COVER THE FULL COST OF THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALKS. NUMBER TWO, WE'VE HAD MONEY FROM THE DART FUNDS FOR ABOUT ALMOST $50 MILLION TO PUT IN THE ADA RAMPS AND SIDEWALKS. AS A MATTER OF FACT, THERE IS AN ITEM ON THE NEXT COUNCIL OR ONE OF THE UPCOMING COUNCIL TO TO, TO MODIFY THE EXISTING CONTRACT FOR SIDEWALKS. THE OTHER THING IS, ON ANY OF THE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS, MOST OF THEM WE'RE PUTTING IN THE BRAND NEW SIDEWALKS. AS PART OF THAT. NOW, WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH NCD, ACOG, AND OTHER PARTNERING AGENCIES ON GETTING FUNDING. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE HAVE THE PEDESTRIAN ROUTES TO RAIL IN DISTRICT FOUR AND PRIMARILY IN PARTLY IN DISTRICT ONE FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO SIDEWALKS IN THE AREA AROUND THE ZOO. SO WE'RE, I MEAN, ALL WHAT I'M SAYING HERE IS THERE ARE SEVERAL PROGRAMS WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN SIDEWALKS NOW. THE SYSTEM IS LARGE. I THINK WE HAVE 4500 MILES OF SIDEWALKS. SO IT'LL TAKE A WHILE TO COVER THE GAPS AND SO ON, BUT WE'RE WORKING AT IT. WHICH PROGRAM NAME OR PROGRAM DESCRIPTION HANDLES THE SIDEWALKS, MAINTENANCE AND INSTALLATION. SO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE SIDEWALKS, AS PER THE CITY ORDINANCE, IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS. SO THE CITY OF DALLAS, WHAT WE HAVE DONE, AND I'VE HAD THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE WE HAD VOLUNTEERED TO GO OUT THERE AND ADDRESS A HAZARD BY LIKE MAYBE REMOVING A SMALL PIECE OF ASPHALT. I MEAN A PAVEMENT, A SIDEWALK, CONCRETE SIDEWALK AND SMOOTHED IT OUT WITH ASPHALT UNTIL SUCH TIME WHEN THE, THE, THE, THE SIDEWALK IS BEING REPAIRED. SO MAINTENANCE AGAIN IS THE, AS PER THE CITY ORDINANCE, IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE ADJOINING PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE BOND FUNDING FACILITATION AND THE DART FUNDING FOR ADA RAMPS. WHO IN YOUR DEPARTMENT IS IS LIKE THE SIDEWALK CZAR. WE HAVE SOMEONE. WE HAVE A SIDEWALK TEAM AND WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION. IT IS ON ON THE WEBSITE, BUT WE CAN MAKE IT CLEARER AND PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION. I'M JUST MAINLY THINKING FOR THE BUDGET. I WANT TO UNDERSTAND AS WE APPROVE THIS, THAT THERE THERE IS A DEPARTMENT THAT'S ADVOCATING FOR SIDEWALKS AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE BUILDING THEM AND KEEPING THEM MAINTAINED. AND THERE'S, THERE'S SOMEONE THAT'S PUSHING TO GET THE BOND FUNDING USED. LIKE THERE IS SOMEONE WHO'S IN CHARGE OF THAT. YES, SIR. WE DO HAVE A TEAM FOR THE SIDEWALK. I'LL I'M HAPPY TO SEND YOU THE INFORMATION AND MAYBE WE'LL PUT IT AS PART OF THE RESPONSES TO THE QUESTIONS FROM THIS PRESENTATION. THAT'D BE GREAT. OKAY. I THINK LASTLY HERE IS ON SLIDE 29. SURPLUS PROPERTY MOWING. I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT'S, THAT'S A BIG BUDGET FOR YOU GUYS. 1.47 MILLION PER YEAR TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S SURPLUS PROPERTY. AND IN 18 JOBS, I KNOW THAT INCLUDES LIKE THE RIGHT OF WAYS IN THE ROADWAYS. RIGHT? IS THAT IS THAT ALL OF OUR VACANT PARCELS OF LAND AS WELL? SO THIS ITEM ALSO INCLUDES THE MOWING OF TEXTILE FACILITIES. WE GET SOME REIMBURSEMENTS FROM TEXDOT, AND WE COVER PRETTY MUCH THE TEXTILE FACILITIES OR TEXTILE OWNED ROADWAYS WITHIN THE CITY IN ADDITION TO OURS. HOW MANY SURPLUS THIS YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THIS. HOW MANY SURPLUS PROPERTIES ARE WE MOWING? I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. I DON'T HAVE IT AT THE TOP OF MY HEAD. HERE, BUT WE CAN, I CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE ACRES THAT WE COVER. I'D LIKE TO KNOW THE NUMBER OF SURPLUS PROPERTY, ACREAGE AND THE COST FOR MOWING THOSE SURPLUS PROPERTIES. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GOOD MORNING TEAM. LET'S SEE IF WE CAN GO TO SLIDE 19. [01:00:05] I UNDERSTAND, I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE GENERAL FUND IS. I UNDERSTAND THE DART AND THE BOND FOR 73 MILLION. WHAT WHAT IS THE NON-GENERAL FUND? WHAT IS THAT? BECAUSE I SEE THAT SAYS 77 MILLION IN THERE. CAN YOU HELP ME UNDERSTAND THAT? SO. YES, SIR. SO IT IS THE COMBINATION OF THE BOND FUNDS 73 MILLION. AND IN THIS YEAR WE HAVE. OKAY, 3.25. GOTCHA. IT'S THE COMBINATION. YES, SIR. I COME FROM A DIFFERENT. SO WE HAVE WHAT WE. I WAS TALKING TO THE MAYOR PRO TEM. WE HAVE ASSIGNED FUND BALANCE AND UNASSIGNED BALANCE. SO. YES SIR. I WAS TRYING TO SEE IF IT WAS SIMILAR TO THAT. WHEN I DEFINE PUBLIC SAFETY AND I AND PUBLIC SAFETY IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. MY TOP PRIORITY. AND WHEN I, WHEN I RAN ON THIS AND WHEN I TALK ABOUT PUBLIC SAFETY, I ALSO LOOK AT THE STREET INFRASTRUCTURE, MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SAFE STREETS AND SIDEWALKS TO WALK ON. AND THAT'S, THAT'S BEEN A PROBLEM IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION AND SPOKE ABOUT THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DEAL WITH IN DISTRICT FOUR IS LIGHTING JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE ON STELLA AND FERNWOOD RESIDENTS WAS TOLD THAT A PERSON HAS NOT BEEN HIRED FROM THE LIGHTING DIVISION. SO THEY HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR LIGHTING AND SUBMITTED. WE SUBMITTED SRS FOR AT LEAST NINE MONTHS AGO. AND SO WE STILL DON'T HAVE THOSE LIGHTING FIXED IN DISTRICT FOUR. SO HOW DO WE GET THAT TAKEN CARE OF? BECAUSE MY MY CONCERN IS MORE OF AN EQUITY CONCERN WHEN IT COMES TO DISTRICT FOUR. AND YOU HEARD MY CONCERN WHERE I DRIVE DOWN OAKLAWN AND WE WE SEE BRAND NEW STREETS AND BRAND NEW MEDIUMS, BUT THEN WHEN THEY COME OVER HERE TO DISTRICT FOUR, WE DON'T HAVE THAT SAME EQUITY. WE HAVE THE SAME, PAT. YOU KNOW, IT'S WORSE. IT'S BAD. SO HOW DO WE GET THAT WHERE WE SUBMIT SRS, BUT THE WORK IS NOT GETTING DONE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO THERE ARE TWO THINGS. AS I INDICATED SPECIFICALLY ON THE STREET LIGHTS IS THE FACT THAT THE MAJORITY OF THEM, ALMOST 7000 OF THEM ARE UNDER ENCORE CONTROL. SO SPECIFICALLY FOR THAT LOCATION IS WE'VE ALREADY ISSUED OR REQUESTED, ISSUED THE WORK ORDER TO ENCORE TO INSTALL THE STREET LIGHT AT THE LOCATION. SO WE HAVE TO COORDINATE WITH ENCORE ON SOME OF THESE ITEMS. BUT AGAIN WE CONTINUE TO, IN AREAS WHERE IT IS WITHIN OUR CONTROL, WE TRY TO GET THEM IN AS, AS BEST AS WE CAN BASED ON THE FUNDING THAT WE HAVE AVAILABLE AND WHERE AREAS WHERE ENCORE IS OPERATING, THEN WE ASK THEM TO PUT THEM IN. SO THE LIGHTING IS ON ENCORE IN THAT AREA? YES, SIR. OKAY, SO WHAT DO WE DO WHEN IT COMES TO THE FUNDING? BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT WE'VE HEARD IN OUR COMMUNITY, AND I'M JUST GIVING YOU SOME OF THE SOME OF THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD WHEN WE HAVE MEETINGS THAT THERE IS NO FUNDS TO ADDRESS THE ISSUES THAT HAVE BEEN HISTORICAL PROBLEMS IN DISTRICT FOUR WHEN IT COMES TO STREETS, WHEN IT COMES TO LIGHTING. SO HOW DO WE ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES IF THERE'S NO FUNDING? BECAUSE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE HERE'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING THAT WE SEE OTHER PARTS OF TOWN GETTING THE RESOURCE AND FUNDING. BUT WE'RE GETTING THE SAME OLD. THERE'S NO FUNDING LEFT WHEN IT COMES TO DISTRICT FOUR. SO HOW CAN WE FIX THAT? BECAUSE THAT'S, THAT CREATES A MAJOR INEQUITY AND IT CREATES AN UNSAFE PUBLIC CONCERN WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT DRIVING DOWN THE STREETS IT'S NOT SAFE. PEOPLE ARE HITTING POTHOLES, IT'S NOT SAFE. AND THE ONLY THING WE KEEP GETTING IS PATCHWORK AND MORE PATCHWORK AND MORE PATCHWORK ASPHALT AND MORE PATCHWORK. SO HOW CAN WE FINALLY FIX THOSE ISSUES? THAT HAS BEEN A HISTORICAL PROBLEM, MAINLY IN DISTRICT FOUR. BUT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LOW INCOME FAMILIES AND THE BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITIES. YES, SIR. SO JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS. LET ME CLARIFY. SOME OF OUR BEST ROADWAYS ARE IN DISTRICT EIGHT AND DISTRICT THREE. AND OUR, THIS IS BASED ON THE LATEST PROPERTY PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX THAT WE HAVE. NOW CURRENTLY WE'RE DOING THE NEW I'M P AND WE'RE GOING TO GET A NEW REPORT, BUT BASED ON WHAT I HAVE, SO DISTRICTS NINE AND 13 HAVE THE LOWEST SCORES. AND DISTRICT 14 NOT FAR BEHIND. AND THEN DISTRICT TEN, 11 AND FOUR ARE RIGHT BEHIND THEM. SO ALL TO SAY IS, AND MY POINT ON THIS HERE IS THE FACT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO CATCH UP, AND WE HAVE CHANGED OUR APPROACH, AS YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED. WE'RE NO LONGER PUTTING IN THE ASPHALT OVER CONCRETE, [01:05:03] AND WE'RE GOING TO DO THE CORRECT MEASURES OR TAKE THE CORRECT MEASURES WHEN WE DO THE REPAIRS, MEANING THAT WE'RE NO LONGER JUST PUTTING SOMETHING OUT THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, ON SUMMIT STREET, THERE IS A YOU KNOW, THE ROADWAY HAS BEEN CRACKING FOR A LONG TIME. AND ALL WHAT WE HAVE DONE IS IN THE PAST HAS PUT SEALANT AND NOW WE'RE GOING TO FIX IT, RIGHT? SO WE'VE TAKEN A DIFFERENT APPROACH, DIFFERENT MEASURE, AND WE'RE GOING TO DO IT RIGHT AND TAKE CARE OF BUSINESS. SO SO WE ALSO HAVE NEW LIGHTS ON OLD POLES NEW SIGNALS, NEW SIGNAL LIGHTS ON OLD POLES. AND WE ALSO HAVE NEW SIGNAL LIGHTS THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE THE LEFT TURNING LANE. EXPERIENCED THAT THIS MORNING ON OVERTON AND MARSALIS. SO HOW DO WE GET THAT ADDRESSED WHEN WE HAVE NEW LIGHTS? BUT IT'S ON OLD POLES AND NEW LIGHTS THAT DON'T EVEN HAVE THE PROPER SIGNAL TURNING TO PREVENT A WRECK OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I HAVE TO LOOK INTO IT, BUT I THINK WE'RE GETTING IF IT IS BRAND NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL, IT'S GOING TO GET ALL THE LIGHTING AND ALL THE MOVEMENT. I MEAN NEW. SO IT COULD BE A SITUATION. AND I KNOW AT MARCELLUS AND NEAR ON YOUR, ON MARCELLUS NEAR YOUR OFFICE, WE'RE PUTTING IN BRAND NEW TRAFFIC SIGNAL TO REPLACE THE OLD ONE THERE. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO OPERATE THE OLD ONE UNTIL THE BRAND NEW ONE. WE SWITCH THE POWER TO THE NEW ONE. I'M ALSO GLAD TO HEAR YOU SAY THAT YOU GUYS KIND OF TRYING TO RIGHT A WRONG HERE, AND YOU'RE NOT DOING THE ASPHALT'S OVER THE THE CONCRETE. HOWEVER, THAT'S STILL GOING ON. I JUST I CAN SEND YOU SOME PICTURES WHERE THAT WAS RECENTLY DONE. I THINK I SENT YOU SOME WHEN IT COMES TO SIDEWALKS, WE JUST DO MORE PATCHWORKS. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITY. AND I'M GETTING A LOT OF CALLS ABOUT IT, A LOT OF EMAILS ABOUT IT. I MEAN, CONSTANTLY, EVEN THIS WEEK, MY TEAM IS DEALING WITH THAT. SO I WOULD LIKE THOSE THOSE ISSUES ADDRESSED. BECAUSE IF YOU'RE SAYING IT'S NOT IT'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING, IT'S STILL HAPPENING. AND SO THAT'S A CONCERN. ALSO ON SLIDE 27, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT CLEAN SWEEP, CAN YOU CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT PROGRAM I KNOW I'M READING HERE THE PROGRAM PROVIDES COORDINATORS CITYWIDE MAINTENANCE SERVICES TO ENSURE DALLAS STREETS AND PUBLIC RIGHTS OF WAY IS CLEAN, SAFE AND WELCOMING, ETCETERA, ETCETERA. CAN CAN YOU EXPOUND ON THAT? IS THAT ALSO DEALING WITH THE HIGH GRASS? IS THAT ALSO DEALING WITH WHAT'S GOING ON IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHEN WE'RE DRIVING DOWN THE STREET, WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT APPEARANCE? SO THE MOWING AND LITTER PICKUP FOLLOWS A CERTAIN MOWING CYCLES BECAUSE WE ONLY GET ESPECIALLY SOME OF THE STUFF THAT YOU AND I HAVE DISCUSSED, WHICH IS MAINLY ON TEXTILE RIGHT OF WAY. SO WE GET A CERTAIN NUMBER OF MOWING CYCLES PER YEAR AND ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT, WE HAVE TO PAY FOR IT, WHICH WE HAVE DONE IN SOME OCCASIONS BASED ON SAFETY AND NEED. SO HAPPY TO ADDRESS THAT. BUT THIS IS PART OF THE PROGRAM THAT WE DO THE MOWING AND LITTER PICKUP BASED ON WHAT WE HAVE FUNDING FOR, BASED ON THE REVENUES AS WELL AS OR REIMBURSEMENTS AS WELL AS THE COST. WELL, IT IS A CONCERN BECAUSE SOMETIMES I'M DRIVING DOWN MY STREET IN MY COMMUNITY LOOK LIKE A FOREST. AND THAT'S UNACCEPTABLE BECAUSE I DRIVE, I DRIVE NORTH A LOT AND I DON'T SEE THOSE SAME ISSUES. AND SO MY MY CONCERN AGAIN, IS WHEN WE'RE SAYING THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING, BUT I'M GOING TO OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY AND I SEE THAT IT'S BEING DONE. IS IT THAT WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING IN CERTAIN PARTS OF DALLAS IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF DALLAS, BECAUSE WE'RE HAVING FUNDING EVERYWHERE ELSE, IS WHAT I'M SAYING. AND THOSE ISSUES THAT I'M GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE LOUD ABOUT BECAUSE I BELIEVE IN EQUITY AND IT NEEDS TO BE ADDRESSED. I'LL COME BACK ON MY NEXT GO AROUND. THANK YOU. YES, SIR. I'M HAPPY TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU ON THOSE ISSUES. MISS BLAIR, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU. I'M NOT SURE YOUR MICROPHONE IS ON OR YOU'RE NOT CLOSE TO IT. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. WAIT. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THAT'S THE FIRST TIME I'VE BEEN ACCUSED OF NOT BEING HEARD. OH, I DOUBT IT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU TPW, FOR THIS VERY INSIGHTFUL PRESENTATION. BUT I DO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. ON PAGE 14, YOU SAID THAT WE TALKED YOU TALK ABOUT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND THE INSTALLATION OF TRAFFIC SIGNALS. DO THESE DOES THIS COST ALSO INCLUDE WHERE WE HAVE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION ON CROUCH AND LANCASTER AND DISTRICT EIGHT. WE HAVE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION FOR MUCH NEEDED TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE ALSO ON A TEX-DOT RIGHT OF WAY, WHICH MAKES THINGS EXTREMELY COMPLICATED. I KNOW I'M DISTRICT EIGHT AND DISTRICT FOUR. [01:10:05] WE WE HAVE TXDOT CHALLENGES WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO PUBLIC SAFETY, VISION ZERO, LIGHTING AND SIGNALS. DOES IT INCLUDE DOES YOUR COST AND YOUR PRESENTATION INCLUDE WHERE WE'RE PUTTING IN STREET LIGHTS THAT HAVE DEVELOPER PARTICIPATION IN THOSE INSTALLATIONS? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. AT THIS AT THE LOCATION OF CROUCH AND LANCASTER IT SO HAPPENED THAT WE HAVE A COUPLE OF DEVELOPERS IN THAT AREA AND CERTAINLY PART OF THAT DEVELOPMENT IS TRIGGERING THE WHAT WE CALL THE WARRANTING OF THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL AT THAT LOCATION. SO WE HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH THEM AND WE HAVE SECURED SOME FUNDING FROM FUNDING AND, OR PARTICIPATION ON THAT TRAFFIC SIGNAL. SO IT WILL BE PART OF THE NEW CROSSROAD ROADWAY IMPROVEMENT. YOU WE, IN YOUR PRESENTATION, YOU SAID THAT THERE ARE, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE GO FROM 788 TO 800 LANE MILES OF IMPROVEMENTS, BUT IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY SHOW WHERE THOSE IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO OCCUR. WHAT PART OF THE CITY AND HOW MUCH IS WHERE. DO YOU HAVE THAT INFORMATION? YEAH. SO AS I MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION IS THE FACT THAT FOR 26 WE PRESENT THE WORK PLAN TO THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE IN OCTOBER FOR WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IN THE YEAR. SO FOR THIS YEAR WE PRESENTED IT IN IN DURING THE OCTOBER TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING. AND WE ARE UPDATING IT EVERY QUARTER. SO THE NEXT UPDATE FOR THIS YEAR WILL BE SEPTEMBER. AND FOR THE WORK PLAN FOR 27 WILL BE PRESENTED TO THE COMMITTEE ON OCTOBER AND THEN EVENTUALLY HOPE AT SOME POINT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO HAVE IT IN SOME SORT OF A DASHBOARD THAT PEOPLE CAN SEE IT. THAT WOULD BE GREAT. WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT YOU SPEAK OF, THAT YOU WILL PROVIDE US WITH A DASHBOARD THAT WE CAN JUST GO IN AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE AND WHERE THEY WERE WITH THE STATUS OF THAT IS CORRECT, BUT THE INFORMATION IS CURRENTLY AVAILABLE ON THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, I MEAN, ON THE TREE COMMITTEE. SO WHEN YOU WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THOSE LANE MILES AND YOU'RE NOT MAKING A PRESENTATION UNTIL OCTOBER TO TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE UNTIL OCTOBER, IS THIS BUDGET INCLUDING SOME OF THAT WORK THAT WE WON'T BE THAT THE PRESENTATION WON'T OCCUR IN OCTOBER. GUS, LET ME RESPOND TO THAT. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER. WE PART OF THE REASON WHY WE DON'T PRESENT THE WORK PLAN OR THE FINAL WORK PLAN UNTIL THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE MEETING IN OCTOBER IS JUST THE SCHEDULE OF APPROVING THE BUDGET. SO, YOU KNOW, DEPENDING ON THE BUDGET THAT'S APPROVED, THERE MAY BE ADJUSTMENTS TO, TO THAT WORK PLAN. AND I KNOW THAT THAT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON BROUGHT UP, YOU KNOW, HIS COMMENTS ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS COUNCIL WILL ALWAYS HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH THE STAFF ON, YOU KNOW, PROJECTS AND PROJECT ADJUSTMENTS. BUT THAT IS THE WORK PLAN THAT SUPPORTS THE 800 LANE MILES. AND WE PROBABLY HAVE HAVE A WORKING DRAFT AT THIS POINT, BUT IT IS NOT THE FINAL PLAN. OKAY. THANK YOU. I LOOK FORWARD TO THAT. BUT I LOOK MORE. MORE IMPORTANTLY, I LOOK FORWARD TO BEING ABLE TO PULL THE THE INFORMATION ANYTIME IT'S NEEDED FROM A DASHBOARD. LIKE MOST OF THE A LOT OF THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS HAVE. THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. ON YOU GUYS. OKAY. ON YOUR VISION ZERO. THE RATE IS FLAT, MEANING YOU'RE NOT DOING ANY INCREASE. DECREASE. IT'S JUST JUST FLAT. BUT YOU SAID YOU'RE ALSO GOING TO DO 1.5 MILLION IN TO LEVERAGE GRANTS FOR CORRIDORS THAT NEED SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. DISTRICT EIGHT AND DISTRICT FOUR SHARE LEDBETTER. AND WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF ACCIDENTS, PEDESTRIAN FATALITIES BECAUSE OF THE NEEDS OF INFRASTRUCTURE. AND TEX DOT HAS TO PARTICIPATE BECAUSE THAT'S LEGALLY A TEX DOT ROAD RIGHT AWAY. BUT I FIND THAT WHEN WE HAVE PARTICIPATION WITH TEX DOT, THINGS MOVE EXTREMELY SLOW NO MATTER WHAT OUR PROGRAMS ARE. IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN BETTER THAT? SO I'LL ANSWER THAT QUESTION AGAIN. I APPRECIATE OUR PARTNERSHIP WITH TEX DOT AND WITH NCT COG. WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENTS IN THE BUCKNER SECTION AND LET BETTER SECTION. [01:15:06] AND WALTON WALKER SECTION OF THAT LOOP. 12. SO CERTAINLY THE NEXT PHASE WOULD BE THE LANCASTER LEDBETTER COMPONENT OF THAT AND HAPPY TO KIND OF BEGIN THE CONVERSATION OR CONTINUE THE CONVERSATION, IF YOU WILL, WITH THEM TO HELP WITH SOME OF THE IMPROVEMENTS. SO I'M, WE LOOKED AT IT, I DROVE THE ROADWAY. SO I'M FAMILIAR WITH THE, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, INCLUDING SOME GAPS IN THE SIDEWALKS, FOR EXAMPLE, AND IMPROVEMENTS TO CROSSWALKS AND SO ON. SO IT WILL BE A VERY SIMILAR APPROACH. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'RE STARTING TO LOOK INTO IT. I KNOW I SHARE FIVE, I SHARE LUKE 12 WITH NOT ONLY DISTRICT FOUR, BUT DISTRICT FIVE. SO CORRECT. ANYTHING THAT WOULD WOULD HELP. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT FOR THE MINUTE I HAVE LEFT THE DECREASE IN, IN HEAD COUNT. I KNOW WE'RE DOING TECHNOLOGY REORGANIZATION, OUTSOURCING. WHILE, WHILE YOU'RE INCREASING SERVICE AND EFFICIENCY, HOW HAS THIS BEEN DETERMINED HOW THIS IS GOING TO BE DONE? AND WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CITY IF THE CUTS ARE TOO DEEP AND OUR GREAT, OUR NEEDS BECOME GREATER THAN WHAT WE CAN HANDLE. THAT MEANS THAT WE WOULD THEN PUT A STRUGGLE ON OUR GENERAL FUNDS, OR WE WILL DO PATCHWORK INSTEAD OF THE REPAIRS THAT THAT WE ARE WE'RE PROJECTING WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING. SO I'LL I'LL START WITH THE LATTER PART OF THE QUESTION. SO FROM OUR PERSPECTIVE, THE IMPACTS OF THE REDUCTION IN OUR OR WORKFORCE ALIGNMENT, IF YOU WILL, DID NOT IMPACT ANY OF OUR FIELD OPERATION WHETHER IT BE IN ON THE STREET REPAIR SIDE OR ON THE TRAFFIC OPERATIONS, TRAFFIC SIGNALS, ALL OF THESE POSITIONS ARE STILL AVAILABLE. AND MATTER OF FACT, THE ONLY THING THAT WE NEED TO DO IS POST THESE POSITIONS AND THESE VACANCIES AND TO HAVE THEM FILLED, HOPEFULLY BY THE FIRST, BY OCTOBER 1ST. SO THAT PART, I CAN ASSURE YOU IT'S NOT GOING TO IMPACT ANY OF THE WORK AS FAR AS THE OVERALL ORGANIZATION. MADAM CITY MANAGER CAN CAN HELP WITH THAT. THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE. DIRECTOR, CAN CARLY AND COUNCILWOMAN BLAIR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO IF YOU WILL RECALL IN 2425, WE COMBINED THE FORMER TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, WHICH WAS SEPARATED FROM PUBLIC WORKS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE KNEW IS THAT OVER TIME, ONCE WE PUT THOSE FUNCTIONS BACK TOGETHER, THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOME NATURAL EFFICIENCIES BECAUSE WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE DUPLICATION OF SOME OF THE SERVICES THAT WERE BEING DONE WITH ONE GROUP AND ANOTHER GROUP, AND THEN WE BROUGHT THEM TOGETHER. SO WE ACTUALLY INCREASED THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE STAFFING MODEL WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, BUT WE KNEW IT WOULD TAKE SOME TIME. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S TAKEN US A LITTLE BIT MORE EFFORT WORKING WITH THE DIRECTOR, LOOKING AT WHAT THOSE FUNCTIONS ARE TO WHERE WE CAN NOW COME BACK AND SAY, NOW THAT WE'VE HAD ALMOST A YEAR AND A HALF OF OPERATING WITH THE COMBINED DEPARTMENT, THERE ARE SOME NATURAL WAYS THAT WE'RE DUPLICATING SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WERE BEING DONE. SO THIS IS THE RESULT OF THAT. WE COULDN'T DO IT AT THE VERY BEGINNING BECAUSE WE WANTED TO GIVE OURSELVES TIME. WE WANTED TO KIND OF LET THINGS SETTLE, LET DIRECTOR AND CARLY LOOK AT THE OVERALL STRUCTURE OF THE DEPARTMENT, AND THEN BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND PRESENT A RECOMMENDATION ON WHEN HE TALKS ABOUT STAFFING AND ALIGNMENT. SO THIS IS THE RESULT OF IT. SO WE DID NOT WANT TO HAVE ANY IMPACTS IN SERVICE DELIVERY. WE DO NOT WANT TO IMPACT THAT OUR ABILITY TO BE TIMELY AND MORE EFFICIENT. SO THESE ARE NOT IMPACTS THAT IN ANY WAY MOVE US AWAY FROM OUR GOAL AND FROM THIS CORE FUNCTION. SO THIS IS REALLY ABOUT THE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE KNEW IT WOULD TAKE US TIME TO KIND OF GET THAT ALIGNMENT STRAIGHT. SO THAT'S REALLY THE RESULT OF WHAT YOU'RE SEEING TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND I WASN'T HERE IN 24, 25. SO THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. I DO I IT'S ALL RUNNING TOGETHER FOR ME. I'M SORRY. LAST YOU SAID D EIGHT HAD A BETTER SCORE THAN PART OF THE CITY. BUT WE IN FIVE MILE BECKLEY MEAD AREA IN OUR RURAL AREAS OF KLEBERG THEY WILL THEY THEY WILL DISAGREE WHOLEHEARTEDLY WITH YOU, AND SO WILL I. SO HOW HOW CAN YOU ALIGN THAT? WE ARE BETTER YET WE SEE WE'RE NOT. CERTAINLY MY STATEMENT IS FOR THE OVERALL AREA AND NOT NECESSARILY POCKETS. I MEAN, THERE ARE LOCATIONS DEFINITELY THAT ARE IN IN DESPERATE NEED OF IMPROVEMENTS AND CERTAINLY THE KLEBERG AREA [01:20:08] LAWSON LASSITER AREA AS WELL AS THE FIVE MILES. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING ON SOME OF THESE ROADWAYS, BUT STILL NEED SOME WORK. SO I'M TALKING ABOUT THE NETWORK LEVEL AND NOT NECESSARILY LOCATION. SO CERTAINLY THERE ARE LOCATIONS THAT DEFINITELY NEED HELP. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR, AND THANK YOU, GUS AND YOUR TEAM. WHEN YOU SHARED THAT ALL THESE UPGRADES AND PERFORMANCE, THAT WONDERFUL GRAPH THAT YOU SHOWED THAT THERE'S THE BUDGET AND THEN THERE'S HOW YOU'RE ACTUALLY PERFORMING AND OUTPERFORMING AND DOING MORE WITH 60 TO 70% CAPACITY. I THINK YOU ALL NEED RED CAPES ON. I MEAN, THAT'S AMAZING WORK. SO THANK YOU. BECAUSE WE DO KNOW THAT THIS IS SUCH A HOT BUTTON WITH OUR RESIDENTS AND WE WANT TO DELIVER ON THAT. SO I'M GOING TO BE HAPPY TO GO BACK AND SHARE THAT. ACTUALLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE OUTPERFORMING AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF YOUR TEAM. SO ONE QUESTION I HAD, I KNOW WE TALK ABOUT VISION ZERO ON PAGE 15 ABOUT INVESTING 1.5 MILLION IN DIRECT VISION ZERO FUNDING SO THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE ADDITIONAL DOLLARS. BUT MY QUESTION IS, SINCE YOU'VE IDENTIFIED PROJECTS, WHAT IS THE INTERSECTION BETWEEN VISION ZERO PRIORITIES AND THE PROJECTS YOU'VE IDENTIFIED. I MEAN, HOW ARE WE GETTING AT THAT LIST? THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO FOR EXAMPLE, WE TALKED ABOUT AND I SAID IT BEFORE, IS THE VISION ZERO. IS THE IS THE FRAMEWORK FOR IMPROVEMENTS TO THE SAFETY ON THE ROADWAY? FOR EXAMPLE, WE DO HAVE THE PROGRAM CALLED THE HIGHWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENT PROGRAM THAT ALLOWS US TO PARTNER. THIS IS A FEDERAL PROGRAM THROUGH TXDOT THAT ALLOW US TO REPLACE TRAFFIC SIGNALS AT HIGH CRASH LOCATIONS. AND PART OF THAT PROGRAM ADDRESSES THE VISION ZERO ITEM. SO SOMETIMES WE DO LEVERAGE SOME OF THESE FUNDS THAT WE HAVE FROM THE 1.5 MILLION. LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, IF THEY BID THE PROJECT AND IT COMES IN SLIGHTLY HIGHER BY $100,000, THIS IS WHERE WE GO IN AND SUPPLEMENT IT. SOMETIMES WE SAY, OKAY, HERE'S THE LOCAL MATCH FOR AN IMPROVEMENT TO A ROADWAY OR A TRAFFIC SIGNAL OR A FLASHING SIGNAL OR SOMETHING. SO THESE ARE THE EXAMPLES ON WHERE AND HOW WE'RE LEVERAGING THESE. ANOTHER ITEM IS THAT WAS ON COUNCIL A FEW WEEKS AGO, WHERE WE ACCEPTED THE FIRST TRANCHE OF THE SAFE ROUTES FOR ALL GRANT. AND PART OF IT INCLUDES A VISION ZERO COMPONENT. AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, WE'VE GOT FIVE CORRIDORS, TWO OF THEM IN DISTRICT FIVE. SO THAT WE HAVE TO DO THE ENGINEERING. THE WAY FEDERAL HIGHWAY IS DOING IT NOW IS THEY GO FOR ENGINEERING FIRST. ONCE THEY THEY ARE ASSURED THAT WE ARE DONE WITH THE ENGINEERING, THEN THEY GO TO CONSTRUCTION. SO WE'RE HAVING TO DO IT IN TRANCHES. AND THIS IS HOW WE'RE UTILIZING SOME OF THESE FUNDS. SO PERHAPS IT WOULD BE BETTER STATED. AS WE KNOW WE'VE GOT SOME REALLY DANGEROUS CORRIDORS. I MEAN DISTRICT 1311 TEN HAVE A THROUGH LINE OF FOREST LANE. THAT'S ONE OF OUR PROBLEM AREAS WHEN YOU LOOK AT STATISTICS, CRASH STATISTICS, AND I KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS AROUND THE CITY. AND SO IT MAY HAVE BEEN BETTER STATED TO SAY, HOW ARE WE ALIGNING WITH RESOLVING THOSE, YOU KNOW, LETHAL CORRIDORS WITH THIS YEAR'S BUDGET? SO WE'RE DOING, AGAIN, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING CORRIDOR STUDIES AND I CAN GIVE YOU AND I DO FOLLOW UP ON HOW MANY THAT WE'RE PLANNING ON DOING NEXT YEAR AS PART OF THE FUNDING THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THIS BUDGET. BUT AT LEAST WE'RE DOING. I KNOW WE'RE DOING AT LEAST THREE CORRIDOR STUDIES NEXT YEAR, BUT IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY. I MEAN, WE'VE GOT CORRIDORS IN EVERY DISTRICT THAT NEEDS TO BE LOOKED AT AND ADDRESSED TO SEE WHAT ARE THE OPTIONS TO DO. THERE ARE SOME THINGS, LIKE I SAID, OUT OF THESE CORRIDOR STUDIES THAT WE CAN DO SOMETHING SHORT TERM AND THERE COULD BE SOME THAT NEEDS MORE LONGER TERM HIGHER CAPITAL INVESTMENTS TO MAKE THOSE. OKAY. WELL, I THINK WE DEFINITELY THOSE OF US WHO HAVE THOSE REALLY HONESTLY, FOR ALL OF OUR RESIDENTS, THEY DON'T JUST DRIVE WITHIN THEIR DISTRICTS. THEY'RE GOING ALL THROUGHOUT THE CITY. SO HOW WE CAN TACKLE THOSE? BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW THAT THOSE NUMBERS REALLY DROP OFF. IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S A CONSISTENT ISSUE. I THINK WE HAD TALKED ABOUT OR THE CITY MANAGER HAD REFERENCED 50 MILES PER YEAR MORE THAN THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND GETTING AT MORE LANES DONE. AND I THINK THIS YEAR WE WERE ACTUALLY AT 41 MILES OR COMING INTO THIS, THIS COMING CYCLE. SO I'M JUST WONDERING HOW WE MIGHT CLOSE THAT GAP OR IF THERE'S A REASON, I THINK WE WERE AT 759, SO MAYBE. 716 ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE LANE MILES. SO WE WERE AT 759, WE WERE ON TRACK TO COMPLETE 780 THIS YEAR AND NEXT YEAR WE'RE PLANNING ON [01:25:09] 800. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE IF WE'RE TELLING THE PUBLIC WE'RE DOING 50 A YEAR THAT WE'RE WE'RE DELIVERING ON THAT. WELL, I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING. THE TREATMENT IS FOR. WE HAD PLANNED 759 FOR FY 26. WE'RE ON TRACK RIGHT NOW TO DELIVER 780 LANE MILES OF TREATMENT ON THE ROADWAY. THAT INCLUDES ALL THE COMBINATION OF FULL RECONSTRUCTION TO WHAT WE CALL RESURFACING, MEANING FULL REPLACEMENT OF THE PAVEMENT TO A MICRO CEILING, ONYX AND DIFFERENT TYPE OF TREATMENT. SO WE'RE INCREASING THE TREATMENT LANE MILES BY THE YEAR. WELL, THANK YOU FOR DETAILING ON PAGE 25. I DEFINITELY WANT TO SHARE THAT BECAUSE I'LL HEAR FROM RESIDENTS SAYING, WELL, MY NEIGHBOR STREETS BEING TOTALLY REDONE AND IT MAY BE A MAINTENANCE ISSUE. AND THIS HELPS GET AT THE FINER POINTS OF THAT ON AGAIN, ON PAGE 15, WE TALK ABOUT THE 900 NON-SMART PARKING METERS TO MAXIMIZE REVENUE, IMPROVE OVERALL PROGRAM. SO WHAT IS THAT INVESTMENT AND THEN WHAT IS THE REVENUE LIFT WE CAN EXPECT TO START RECOVERING THOSE COSTS. SO IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN THE CURRENT BUDGET SHOWS A REVENUE FROM THE CHANGES TO THE TRAFFIC TRAFFIC, PARKING METERS, AS WELL AS THE TIME OF ABOUT ADDITIONAL 2 MILLION, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. SOMEWHERE AROUND THAT NUMBER THAT WOULD HELP US WITH THE, WITH THE REVENUE, BUT WE WILL BE PHASING PHASING THAT ONE IN. AND THIS IS BASED ON THE CURRENT CURB LANE MANAGEMENT POLICY THAT HAS BEEN APPROVED BY COUNCIL. SO WHEN YOU SAY PHASING IT IN 900 OF THEM, WHAT. SO THE 900 WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEM NEXT YEAR. OKAY. HOWEVER, ALL 900, ALL 900 OF THEM. WE'RE GOING TO REPLACE THEM WITH THE SMARTER SMART METERS. THE RATE, IF YOU RECALL THAT WE SAID THAT WE'RE GOING TO INCREASE FROM $1 TO 125 BASED ON THE UTILIZATION CRITERIA. SO THAT IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE. AND WE EXPANDED THE HOURS OF THE PARKING METERS. CURRENTLY THEY END AT 6 P.M. WE EXTENDED IT TO MIDNIGHT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. AND THEN I APPRECIATE THAT CHAIR RIDLEY BROUGHT UP THE ISSUE WITH THE UTILITIES AND HOW THEY'RE LEAVING CONDITIONS. AND I KNEW, MISS RASTOGI THAT THERE WERE MEETINGS WITH LEADERSHIP SO THAT THERE COULD BE GREATER COORDINATION. AND THAT'S BEEN GOING ON. AND SO I'M NOT SURE. SOMETIMES IT'S AN ACUTE SITUATION. IT'S AN EMERGENCY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THAT THAT EXPLAINS THAT. BUT THEN ALSO JUST SOME OF THE FINISH OUT ON SOME THINGS. I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S ON THE CITY SIDE OR WITH THE UTILITY, HOW WE GO BACK AND ENSURE THAT THAT IS A QUALITY JOB. BUT ONE ISSUE THAT I THINK WOULD HELP MY OFFICE AND PERHAPS OTHERS, IS CLEAR IDENTIFICATION OF WHO IS DOING THE WORK. BECAUSE RESIDENCY GUIDES IN ORANGE VESTS AND THEY'RE LIKE, THE CITY IS DOING THIS. AND SOMETIMES THEN WE HAVE TO GO PEEL BACK ALL THE LAYERS TO FIND OUT, OH, ACTUALLY IT WAS AN ATLAS PROJECT, OR IT WAS AT&T DOING SOMETHING OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. AND SO WHAT NEEDS TO TAKE PLACE THAT WE HAVE PERHAPS EITHER IDENTIFICATION ON THE SAFETY WEAR THAT THEY WEAR. AND THEN ALSO, YOU KNOW, THE CITY IS GREAT AT HAVING SIGNS UP ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE BEING DONE AND HAS OUR NAMES ON IT AND TALKS ABOUT WHEN IT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED AND THAT SORT OF THING. BUT I DON'T SEE THE SAME THING HAPPENING WHEN THERE'S UTILITY WORK BEING DONE, AND THAT WOULD HELP THE PUBLIC KNOW WHERE TO DIRECT THEIR QUESTIONS, EIR, WHATEVER IT MAY BE. SO AGAIN, IT'S A VERY GOOD OBSERVATION. IT'S A COMBINATION OF THINGS. DEFINITELY COMPLIANCE IS A KEY ITEM. ONE OF THE THINGS, AND I APPRECIATE COUNCIL APPROVING THIS. BACK IN APRIL WHEN WE WE CALLED IT THE MODIFICATION OR UPDATE TO THE STEEL PLATE KIND OF ORDINANCE. THIS IS WHERE WE INCLUDED IN THE ORDINANCE THE REQUIREMENT TO SHOW THE NAMES OF THE, OF THE CONTRACTOR AND THE PHONE NUMBER ON EVERY PLATE THAT'S GOING TO BE ON THE ROADWAY. SO WE KNOW WHO IS THE ENTITY BEHIND IT IN CASE SOMETHING HAPPENS. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE AGAIN IT IS IN THE ORDINANCE. SO NOW IT'S UP TO EDUCATING YOU KNOW, BECAUSE I ALWAYS FAVOR EDUCATION, EDUCATION AND PROACTIVE WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS RATHER THAN ENFORCEMENT. SO CERTAINLY THESE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE'RE DOING. SO WE'RE TAKING SOME STEPS. IT'S A GOOD FEEDBACK TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN THEY HAVE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, WHEN A UTILITY COMPANY GOES OUT AND DO SOME WORK. [01:30:03] MOST OF THE TIME THAT YOU HIRE A SUBCONTRACTOR AND NOT. IT'S NOT THEM. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE AND OUR ROADWAY, I MEAN ON OUR ROADWAY IS THAT WHEN WE HAVE A SUBCONTRACTOR, THEY HAVE LIKE A MAGNET THAT THEY CAN ATTACH TO THE ROAD TO THEIR CARS THAT SAYS CITY OF DALLAS CONTRACTOR. SO PEOPLE KNOW WHO THAT CONTRACTOR IS AND WHOM THEY'RE WORKING FOR. SO CERTAINLY THIS IS A GOOD FEEDBACK, AND THIS IS PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE CAN HAVE WITH THEM. WELL, IS THAT HAPPENING ON THE STEEL PLATES? ON THE STEEL PLATES WE'RE STARTING BECAUSE LIKE WE JUST APPROVED THE, THE, THE ORDINANCE HERE BACK IN APRIL. SO NOW WE'RE STARTING TO SEE THEM MORE WITH THE LABELS, BUT THEY'RE NOT, THEY'RE NOT, I MEAN, WIDESPREAD. I MEAN, YOU'RE NOT SEEING THEM WIDESPREAD YET. HOWEVER, WE'RE MAKING PROGRESS ON THAT. WELL, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME EGREGIOUS ISSUES WITH THAT. I HAD SOMETHING SERIOUS ON WEBB CHAPEL. AND SO I'M I'M GLAD WE'RE DOING THAT. AND MISS RASTOGI, I WOULD SAY IN THAT QUARTERLY LEADERSHIP MEETING, IF YOU CAN ADD SOME THINGS TO THE AGENDA TO BE SURE THERE'S AWARENESS AND IN PRACTICE THAT THOSE ARE BEING LABELED. AND THEN, YOU KNOW, THE WHATEVER THEY PUT ON THE TRUCK OR THE CAR TO IDENTIFY THEM. AND IF IT IS A SANDWICH BOARD THAT IS OUT ON THE SIDE OF THE ROAD WHILE THEY ARE DOING THAT WORK TO LET THEM KNOW THE NAME, THE PHONE NUMBER, BECAUSE THE SUBCONTRACTORS OFTENTIMES ARE PART OF THE ISSUE. I'VE HAD SUBCONTRACTORS SAYING, I'M DOING THIS FOR THE CITY. WELL, THEY WEREN'T. THEY WERE DOING IT FOR A UTILITY. AND SO YOU KNOW, WE REALLY HAVE TO GET OUR UTILITIES TO PERFORM ON THIS FOR US SO THAT RESIDENTS KNOW WHO'S DOING THE WORK, WHO TO CONTACT IF THERE'S A PROBLEM. YEAH, I, WE APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK. I PUT SOME NOTES IN, AND WE WILL CERTAINLY PUT SOME OF THAT IN OUR AGENDA FOR OUR UPCOMING QUARTERLY DISCUSSION. THANK YOU. MISS CADENA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. GUS, I WAS WONDERING HOW IS THE DECREASE IN PARKING ENFORCEMENT. HOW WILL THAT AFFECT THE DEPARTMENT? THERE HAS NOT BEEN ANY DECREASE TO OUR CURRENT STAFFING LEVEL IN PARKING ENFORCEMENT, SO THE HOURS WON'T CHANGE OR ANYTHING. I SAW A LITTLE BIT OF A DECREASE IN THE AMOUNT HERE. I SAW A BIT OF A DECREASE IN THE THE LINE ITEM HERE FOR FOR PARKING ENFORCEMENT. I MEAN, I'LL HAVE TO LOOK AT IT, BUT I MEAN, IS THERE A AT THIS POINT, WE HAVE NOT REDUCED ANY STAFFING. THE CURRENT STAFFING IS IS STILL WHERE IT'S AT. THE ONLY THING IS WE DO HAVE TURNOVER. SO THAT IMPACTS OUR ABILITY TO COVER THE AREAS THAT WE NEED TO COVER. OKAY. AND THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE YOU ALL KNOW THAT WE'RE HAVING DIFFICULTIES OVER AT THE MARGARET HUNT HILL BRIDGE AND RON KIRK BRIDGE. ALONG THAT AREA. AND PARKING ENFORCEMENT ONLY WORKS UNTIL A CERTAIN TIME, AND THEN DPD CAN ONLY DO A CERTAIN AMOUNT AND THEN DALLAS. I GUESS THE MARSHALS AS WELL. AND SO WE'VE JUST CONTINUED TO HAVE ISSUES IN THAT AREA. SO, YOU KNOW, I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE NOT DECREASING FUNDING. WE COULD ACTUALLY PROBABLY USE MORE FUNDING, ESPECIALLY LATER HOURS. SO IF YOU COULD GET BACK TO ME, THAT'D BE GREAT. YEAH, I'LL, I'LL GET BACK TO YOU. OKAY. THE OTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS. I THINK COUNCIL MEMBER WEST MENTIONED THIS A LITTLE BIT, BUT HOW IS THE SIDEWALK REPLACEMENT PROGRAM GOING? LIKE, SO IF A HOMEOWNER PUTS IN YOU KNOW, ASK FOR A QUOTE, HOW LONG IS IT TAKING THEM? SO WE WERE, WE STARTED A LITTLE BIT LATE BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD, BUT NOW WE DO HAVE THEM. SO IT IS MOVING FASTER. AND THEN BASED ON THE ALSO THE PROGRAMING, IF YOU WILL, BASED ON EVERY YEAR WE PUT IN SOME FUNDING IN THE 2024 BOND. I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBER WITH ME FOR NEXT YEAR, BUT WE'RE SPREADING IT THROUGHOUT THE YEARS OF THE BOND. AND THAT IS A FORM THOUGH THAT RESIDENTS CAN FILL OUT AND IT IS AVAILABLE ONLINE SO THAT WE CAN THEY FILL IT OUT AND THEN WE WE PROCESS IT AND, AND GET IT SCHEDULED. I HAD SEEN SOME DELAYS FROM WHEN RESIDENTS WERE PUTTING IN THE APPLICATION TO GETTING THE QUOTE AND THEN FROM THE QUOTE TO ACTUALLY GETTING THE SIDEWALK REPLACED. SO IF WE COULD GET ANY INFORMATION ON THAT, JUST ON HOW LONG IT'S TAKING FROM MAYBE THE QUOTE TO ACTUALLY GETTING INSTALLED, THAT WOULD BE HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP. BUT LIKE I MENTIONED IS I ACKNOWLEDGE THERE HAS BEEN A DELAY IN THE INITIAL STAGES BECAUSE A, WE DIDN'T HAVE THE THE THE CONTRACTOR ON BOARD, SO WE COULDN'T GIVE A QUOTE FOR WHAT IT WILL COST, AND WE MADE SOME ORGANIZATIONAL CHANGES LATELY TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. THAT'S GOOD TO HEAR. MY OTHER QUESTION IS, SO I KNOW WITH UNIMPROVED STREETS, WE'RE NOT ABLE TO PUT SIDEWALKS IN. [01:35:07] AND FOR MY DISTRICT THAT THAT DOES AFFECT QUITE A NUMBER OF MY STREETS. AND SO IT SOMETIMES MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR RESIDENTS TO WALK DOWN THE STREET BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT ABLE TO PUT A SIDEWALK IN OR, OR TO GET TO A BUS STOP. SO IS THERE A PROCESS FOR RESIDENTS TO MOVE FROM, YOU KNOW, AN UNIMPROVED STREET TO AN IMPROVED STREET WITH THE GUTTERS AND CURB AND EVERYTHING? SO DEFINITELY GOING THROUGH THE SERVICE REQUEST ALWAYS HELP BECAUSE THEN WE PUT THE ITEM ON THE NEEDS INVENTORY LIST. AND THEN WHEN IT COMES TO THE TIME WHEN WE'RE GOING FOR THE NEXT BOND, THEN WE PRIORITIZE THEM. AND CERTAINLY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL HAVE INPUT AS PART OF THE PROCESS, SIMILAR TO WHAT WE DID ON THE 2024 BOND. OKAY. AND THEN WE MENTIONED THE MAINTENANCE FOR THE CAPS, BUT WHAT IS THE MAINTENANCE COST FOR THE MARGARET HUNT HILL BRIDGE? SO THAT ONE, I THINK WE HAVE TO DO THE INSPECTION ON IT. I KNOW THE INSPECTION COST IS ABOUT. $300,000 OR SOMETHING BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THIS IS WE HAVE TO DO A SPECIAL INSPECTION ON IT. NOW THE REPAIR ON IT. I HAVE TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT. I KNOW THAT WE HAVE TO DO SOME REPAIR ON ON ELEMENTS OF THAT BRIDGE. YEAH. I THINK WE ALSO HAVE TO DO THE MAINTENANCE, WHICH IS QUITE EXPENSIVE. AND THE REASON WHY I MENTIONED, YOU KNOW, I'M SO GLAD THAT WE ARE INCREASING THE LINE ITEM FOR MAINTENANCE. BUT I THINK AS WE ADD CAPS, AND I MEAN, I LOVE THE MARGARET HUNT HILL BRIDGE, IT'S SO BEAUTIFUL. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE ECONOMIC IMPACT TO OUR BUDGET FOR MAINTENANCE FOR THESE TYPES OF YOU KNOW BRIDGES, CAPS THAT WE BRING ON BOARD AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WE'RE WORKING ON COMPLETING CHALK HILL IN CANADA AND WE HAVE RECEIVED COMPLAINTS. I KIND OF ECHO ECHO SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES IN, YOU KNOW, WHERE DO THEY REACH OUT TO GET ASSISTANCE, BUT DO WE HAVE ADEQUATE STAFFING WHEN ISSUES ARRIVE? AND DO WE ALSO SEE ARE THE CONTRACTORS USING THE PLATES WHEN NEEDED? OR HAVE WE SEEN MAYBE SOME ISSUES WITH THAT BECAUSE NOW THERE'S A COST. WELL, WE'RE DEFINITELY I CAN SAY THAT OVER THE LAST 2 OR 3 MONTHS, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, WE HAVE SEEN A REDUCTION IN THE IN THE USE OF STEEL PLATES EVER SINCE WE ADOPTED OR THE COUNCIL ADOPTED THE NEW ORDINANCE. SO IT'S HAVING A POSITIVE EFFECT. NOW IS IT GOING TO ELIMINATE IT? PROBABLY NOT. HOWEVER, WE'RE MAKING WE'RE UPDATING THE REQUIREMENTS, IF YOU WILL, ON HOW TO REPAIR THESE CUTS IN THE PAVEMENT. THAT IS ALSO CONTRIBUTING TO THE, TO THE FACT THAT PEOPLE HAVE TO THINK TWICE BEFORE THEY CUT THE PAVEMENT. WELL, I THINK THERE WAS AN INSTANCE IN WITH CHALK HILL WHERE THE CONTRACTOR PUT A BUNCH OF ROCKS IN AND PERHAPS THERE SHOULD HAVE BEEN A PLATE THERE. AND SO I THINK THAT'S KIND OF WHAT I'M, I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A WAY TO MAYBE ADDRESS THAT AS WELL TO MAKE SURE THAT THE ROAD IS SMOOTH. WHEN PEOPLE GO THROUGH BECAUSE I THINK THERE WAS SOME ISSUES DURING THAT CASE. SO YEAH, SO SPECIFICALLY ON THAT ONE, IT WAS A SPECIAL SITUATION BECAUSE OF THE THE CONCERN AT THAT TIME IT WAS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT NO, I MEAN, ANYTIME THAT THEY CUT THE ROADWAY, THEY EITHER HAVE TO USE PLATES OR BACKFILL AND PUT ASPHALT ON TOP OF IT. SO FOR GOOD RIDEABILITY. NOW WE MAY NOT BE PERFECT IF THEY'RE STILL WORKING, BUT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO TO HAVE A HARD SURFACE. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I'M NOT GOING TO, YOU KNOW, USE A WHOLE BUNCH OF WORDS TO GET THROUGH THIS BECAUSE A LOT OF IT HAS ALREADY BEEN ADDRESSED. BUT I DO WANT TO JUST MAKE COMMENTS ON THE ACCOUNTABILITY, THE ACCOUNTABILITY IN TERMS OF MEETING WITH THE UTILITY COMPANIES. MOST RECENTLY I'VE HAD, I THINK WE HAD DALLAS WATER UTILITIES IN THE FRONT AND ATMOS IN THE ALLEYS. AND IT WAS JUST CHAOS IN THAT PARTICULAR COMMUNITY. AT THE SAME TIME. SO I'M GLAD TO HEAR THIS. THE ONE THING I WOULD ADD IS I KNOW WE GO THROUGH, AND I KNOW ABOUT WHAT KIND OF THE UPCOMING PROJECTS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE DISTRICT, BUT SOME WAY TO KIND OF EVEN FROM MY OFFICE TO LET THEM KNOW, HEY, THIS IS STARTING THIS WEEK. BE PREPARED. I KNOW I HAD SOME PEOPLE COMPLAIN. I KNOW YOU ALL SEND THE STICKERS. YOU DID SOME WORK IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD. WE GOT THE STICKERS TO KNOW WHEN, BUT I GUESS NOT EVERYBODY GETS IT. SO BE NICE TO KNOW WHEN THESE PROJECTS ARE ACTUALLY GOING TO START SO HE CAN GIVE THE COMMUNITY A HEADS UP. PERSONALLY FROM MY OFFICE. SO THAT'S JUST THE ONE REQUEST I WOULD HAVE ALONG THE FIRM ACCOUNTABILITY PIECE. WITH THAT, AND I'VE BEEN ON THIS AS WELL BECAUSE I THINK WE BEND OVER QUITE A BIT FROM A CONTRACTING PERSPECTIVE AND NO DISRESPECT TO OUR PROCUREMENT OFFICE, BUT A LOT OF THESE, [01:40:06] WE DO BUSINESS WITH A LOT OF THE SAME COMPANIES THAT HAVE GONE THROUGH THIS PROCESS. SO AGAIN, THIS ACCOUNTABILITY IS NOT JUST IF THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, IF THEY'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH SOME OF OUR OTHER PARTNERS, UTILITY COMPANIES, THEY KNOW BETTER. AND AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I'M SAYING I WANT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN DOING BUSINESS. IT'S NOT A LOT OF BUSINESSES WHEN ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT STREETS AND CONCRETE TO DO THAT SIZE AND THAT MAGNITUDE OF WORK, THERE'S NOT MANY OUT THERE. SO IT'S THE SAME COMPANIES OUT HERE COMPETING FOR THE SAME JOBS. AND I THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE A LOT MORE ACCOUNTABILITY WHEN IT COMES TO THAT, BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S ONLY A FEW. THEY GET A LITTLE BIT RELAXED, AND I THINK WE NEED TO TURN AND LET THEM KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHER OPTIONS. FROM A TECHNOLOGY PERSPECTIVE, I KNOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LIKE THE AI AND THINGS LIKE THAT ARE THERE OR HAVE THERE, IS THERE ANY ROOM? I MEAN, YOU KNOW, I READ ARTICLES ABOUT HOW THEY'RE INCORPORATING GENERATING ELECTRICITY FROM SOME OF THESE, YOU KNOW, THINGS. AND I DRIVE DOWN MOUNTAIN CREEK AND THAT IS A HORRIFIC DRIVE. YOU KNOW, NO DISRESPECT. YOU CAN KEEP UP WITH IT AS MUCH AS YOU CAN. THAT IS HORRIFIC DRIVE. BUT A LOT OF THIS TECHNOLOGY SAYS YOU CAN INCORPORATE THINGS UNDERNEATH TO PRODUCE ELECTRICITY, FOR EXAMPLE THOSE KIND OF THINGS. AND JUST IS THERE A ROOM FOR THAT TO BE EXPLORED? BECAUSE AGAIN, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE DAMAGING MOUNTAIN CREEK, ALL OF THOSE TRUCKS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY FOR THE CITY TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN MAXIMIZE THROUGH TECHNOLOGY, NOT JUST THROUGH AI, BUT EVEN IN SOME OF THE MATERIALS AND THE WORK THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN. I HEAR ABOUT IT, BUT I'VE NEVER HEARD THE CITY ACTUALLY GO AND EXPLORE IT FROM A FEASIBILITY, FROM A PILOT PERSPECTIVE TO SEE, IS THIS SOMETHING THAT'S WORTH EVEN EXPLORING? SO ARE THERE ANY ROOM FOR THAT? IS THERE ANY ROOM FOR THAT LEVEL OF INTRODUCTION INTO TECHNOLOGY? SO WE'RE ALWAYS LOOKING FOR TECHNOLOGIES AND OPPORTUNITIES. THE THE THING ABOUT IT IS THIS, THE WAY I APPROACH IT AS A LIFE CYCLE COST APPROACH, MEANING THAT, OKAY, YOU'RE GIVING ME NEW TECHNOLOGY COMPANY X, WHAT'S GOING TO DO TO MY OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE, HOW MUCH IT'S GOING TO COST ME? WHAT'S THE LIABILITY? WHO'S GOING TO BE DOING WHAT? AND IS THAT GOING TO CAUSE ME TO GROW A PROGRAM NOW TO GO FROM YOU KNOW, YOU START OFF WITH AN INTRODUCTORY LEVEL OF, HEY, IT'S ONLY ONE PERSON KIND OF DOING IT ON A PART TIME. THE NEXT THING YOU KNOW IS I NEED FIVE PEOPLE TO MANAGE THAT PROGRAM. SO ALL THESE THINGS HAVE TO GO AS FAR AS PART OF THE DECISION MAKING PROCESS, BUT CERTAINLY WE'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO ANY IDEAS. THAT WILL HELP US GET BETTER. AND LIKE I SAID, WE'RE WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND I'M, I'M GOING TO BRAG ON THE CITY OF DALLAS, FOR EXAMPLE, ON THE PAVEMENT INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. BY THE TIME WE HAVE THE NEW ONE AT THE END OF THE YEAR OUR CONSULTANT TOLD US WE ARE PROBABLY, IF NOT THE LEADING CITY IN THE NATION. WE ARE IN THE TOP THREE AS FAR AS HOW WE'RE APPROACHING OUR NEW INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM AND SO ON. SO WE'RE DOING A LOT OF GOOD THINGS. A LOT OF PEOPLE ARE CALLING US AND, AND SEEING HOW WE'RE DOING THINGS. WE ARE YOU KNOW, ALSO WE ARE ONE OF THE LEADING CITIES, IF NOT THE LEADING CITY IN UNDERSTANDING HOW DEBT CAPS MAINTENANCE WORK AND MANAGEMENT OF THOSE DEBT CAPS. AND WE'RE GETTING A LOT OF CALLS FROM PEOPLE FROM OTHER STATES. SO. SO WE'RE DOING A LOT. SOME GOOD THINGS HERE AT THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND I WANT TO BRAG ON THE CITY. THANK YOU. AND DEB. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. GRACEY. THANK YOU FOR FOR THAT QUESTION. I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE CONTINUE TO BE FUTURE FORWARD AS WE AS WE THINK ABOUT THIS IMPORTANT ASSET THAT WE HAVE AT THE CITY. SO ONE OF THE PROJECTS THAT, THAT WE ARE CONTEMPLATING, AND WE HAVE BEEN APPROVED FOR THE GENERAL MOBILITY FUND FROM DART IS A MOBILITY STUDY, A STRATEGIC MOBILITY STUDY. AND SO WE WOULD EXPECT TO SEE SOME OF THOSE CONCEPTS AND IDEAS EXPLORED AT THAT POINT. BUT GUS AND THE TEAM ARE VERY THOUGHTFUL IN TERMS OF MAKING SURE THAT WE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING THINGS THAT ARE SUSTAINABLE AND WILL PUT US IN THAT, IN THAT BEST, BEST OPPORTUNITY. SO, SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT IS ACTIVELY THINKING ABOUT IS HOW DO WE INCORPORATE WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT IN THE WORLD AND THOSE INNOVATIVE IDEAS AND AND THAT WILL BE AN AVENUE TO EXPLORE THAT. THANK YOU. AND I, AND I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE GREAT WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING. I'M JUST, I GUESS THE OLDER I GET, I DON'T BELIEVE IN CELEBRATING TOUCHDOWNS, MAN. I JUST WANT TO KEEP GOING. WE GOT WORK TO DO. AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WHERE WE CAN KEEP GOING, KEEP GOING AND TAKING ADVANTAGE OF IT. YES, THERE'S AI, THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF OTHER TECHNOLOGY THAT I THINK WE COULD INTRODUCE OR EXPLORE. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S GOING TO BE ASSOCIATED COSTS WITH IT, BUT IF THE RETURN IS WORTH IT, [01:45:02] THEN I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT WE COULD BENEFIT FROM. SO JUST PLANT THOSE SEEDS THERE. WHAT IS THE URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM? SO THE URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM THE DESIGNATION ON IT IS THE, ARE SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT DO HANDLE THE TREE TRIMMING AND, AND SIMILAR ACTIVITIES. OKAY. AND TO BE CLEAR, THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS IS ONE OF THE FEW. ONE OF THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY THAT HAVE SUCH A PROGRAM. SO WE ARE NOT THE ONLY DEPARTMENT THAT HANDLES THIS. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARITY, BECAUSE I SAW THAT THEY WERE REDUCING. I THINK YOU'RE REDUCING SEVEN POSITIONS, BUT THE BUDGET AT LEAST FROM 26 TO 27, I DIDN'T OR FROM 27 TO 28, IT INCREASED FROM 685 TO 693. SO I COULDN'T I DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO FIND IT. WAS THERE A DECREASE IN THAT? SO WE HAVE SOME WORKFORCE ALIGNMENT IN THE, WHAT WE CALL THE URBAN FORESTRY, LIKE I MENTIONED, IS OTHER DEPARTMENTS, FOR EXAMPLE, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES AND, AND PLANNING DEPARTMENT DO HAVE SIMILAR FUNCTIONS. SO SOME HAVE BEEN HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THERE. AND THEN ALSO SOME OF THEM WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MOVE INTO A DIFFERENT POSITION, WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, THAT WILL STILL KIND OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT AS PART OF THE IMPROVEMENT IS ARE WE FULLY UTILIZING THE STAFF AT FULL EIGHT HOURS A DAY? RIGHT. AND IF NOT, MAYBE I DO. I NEED TO DO AN UPSKILL AND TRAIN SOMEONE TO DO LIKE 50% WORK HERE. AND THEN WHEN WE NEED THEM ON THE URBAN FORESTRY TO DO LIKE AFTER THE CLEANUP, AFTER A STORM OR SOMETHING, THEN THEY CAN SHIFT TO THIS ONE. IS IT IS IT JUST WHEN THERE ARE STORMS THERE OR BECAUSE OR IS IT JUST WHEN OR WHEN A JOB IS NEEDED? FOR EXAMPLE I PUT IN A REQUEST, I THINK FOR BETWEEN MARSALIS DOWN LEDBETTER, BETWEEN OR BETWEEN MARSALIS AND MYSTIC NEEDED TO BE CUT BACK. THIS KIND OF LEADS TO MY OTHER QUESTION IN A SITUATION LIKE THAT. AND IT LOOKED LIKE THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN A SIDEWALK THERE, BUT IT WAS SO YOU KNOW, OVERGROWN AND I COULDN'T TELL. WOULD THAT BE THE JOB OF AN URBAN FORESTRY PROGRAM, OR WHO WOULD. OR TXDOT, OR IF IT IS ON OUR ROADWAY RIGHT OF WAY, IT IS WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. NOW, SOMETIMES SOME OF THE OVERGROWTH IS HAPPENING FROM TREES THAT ARE PLANTED ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES THAT ARE OVERGROWING THE RIGHT OF WAY. AND THIS IS WHERE WE COORDINATE WITH OUR COLLEAGUES FROM CODE, AND THEY GO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS TO ADDRESS THAT PIECE. OKAY, SO THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF OVERLAP WHEN THESE THINGS DO HAPPEN, BUT CERTAINLY WHEN IT IS STRICTLY ON OUR RIGHT OF WAY, WE HANDLE THE TRIMMING. OKAY. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS URBAN FORESTRY TEAM WOULD TYPICALLY CORRECT. AND THEN DEPENDING ON WHICH DEPARTMENT. CORRECT. OKAY. OKAY. SO THERE'S NOT NECESSARILY GOING TO BE A AYE BECAUSE AGAIN, THAT'S ONE OF THE ONES I PROBABLY CALL YOU ON MOST CONSISTENTLY IS THAT IN UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, IS IT HOURS OR IS IT IS IT PRIVATE PROPERTY? BUT THERE'S A LOT THAT'S JUST GROWN BACK. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT DOESN'T GET REDUCED. THAT SERVICE DOESN'T GET REDUCED AS A RESULT OF IT. LIKE I SAID, IT SHOULDN'T BASED ON THE AVAILABILITY OF SOME OF THE POSITIONS THAT WE'RE ABLE TO MOVE SOME FOLKS INTO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S IT. I'LL COME BACK FOR MY NEXT ROUND. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR. GUYS, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALWAYS TAKING MY CALL. YOU SEEM TO KNOW EVERY PROJECT THAT'S GOING ON. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU DO THAT, SO BUT I DO WANT TO THANK OUR CITY MANAGER FOR GIVING YOU A LITTLE EXTRA HELP WITH OUR WITH OUR DEPUTY. I KNOW IT WAS MUCH NEEDED. SO WE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THE BUDGET CONSTRAINTS AND, YOU KNOW, SOME CUTS AND SETBACKS. SO I WANT TO TALK ABOUT REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES. ONE THAT I KEEP BRINGING UP IS A PARKING MANAGEMENT DISTRICT OR AN AUTHORITY. WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? I THINK THAT'S A BIG OPPORTUNITY TO RELIEVE SOME PRESSURE FROM YOUR TEAM. AND WHAT ARE THE NEXT STEPS TO TRY TO GET A PARKING DISTRICT OR PARKING AUTHORITY? OKAY. WELL WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION IN A COUPLE OF LOCATIONS. SO I'LL START WITH UPTOWN. DALLAS. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW, WE'RE GOING FROM AN AREA THAT DOES NOT HAVE ANY PARKING METERS AT THE MOMENT TO THE [01:50:04] ESTABLISHMENT OF THE PAID PARKING AREA THAT COINCIDES THAT AREA. THE BOUNDARIES OF THE AREA WILL COINCIDE WITH THE BOUNDARIES OF THE UPTOWN DALLAS INC., SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THE GOVERNANCE THAT WILL BE ABLE TO GOVERN OVER THE PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICTS WHEN WE ESTABLISH IT. SO WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THAT PROCESS FIRST AND THEN CONVERT IT INTO THE PARKING BENEFIT DISTRICT. AFTER THAT, AND CERTAINLY I'VE HAD SOME INITIAL CONVERSATIONS WITH DOWNTOWN DALLAS INC. IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE INTERESTED IN. AND WE'RE ALSO OPEN WITH THAT ON THE DEEP ELLUM. SO, AND SO THAT WOULD REMOVE THAT WOULD OUTSOURCE THE MANAGEMENT OF THOSE EMPLOYEES WHO ARE GOING OUT AND, AND REGULATING PARKING. HOW DO WE, HOW DO WE GET TO THAT POINT? SO TO BE CLEAR, IS BY STATUTE, THE ENFORCEMENT REMAINS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. I MEAN, THIS IS IN THE ORDINANCES AND THE STATUTE. SO THAT'S THAT ITEM. THE OTHER THING IS THE MAINTENANCE OF THE LIKE PARKING METERS AND STUFF. AND, AND THE MANAGEMENT OF LIKE THE DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE OF THE PARKING METERS REMAINS WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO THE WAY IT WORKS IS THAT YOU TAKE THE TOTAL REVENUE, YOU HAVE TO DO YOUR BUSINESS PLAN, TOTAL REVENUE MINUS THE COST TO MAINTAIN AND OPERATE FROM THE COST OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, IF YOU WILL. AND THEN FROM THE NET. WE DO THE SPLIT. OKAY. CITY MANAGER, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S IF IT'S IN THE ORDINANCE, IF THAT REQUIRES A REVIEW, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF GREAT PRIVATE GROUPS THAT DO THIS HERE IN DALLAS AND THROUGHOUT THE, THE STATE. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO EXPLORE AND LOOK AT WHEN IT COMES TO THAT REGULATION OF THE DOING THE ENFORCEMENT FOR OUR PARKING METERS AND OUR PARKING GARAGES. ALSO I KNOW THAT WE'RE LIMITED ON IMPACT FEES BUT THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES FOR ROAD MAINTENANCE AGREEMENTS WITH BUILDERS AND WITH, ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE HIGH VEHICLE LIKE MAYBE A BATCH PLANT OR SOMEONE THAT'S HAULING A LOT OF DEBRIS. AND THEY'RE USUALLY THE ONES WHO ARE TEARING UP THOSE SAME ROADS, ALMOST PRIVATE ROADS. IS THERE ANY ATTEMPT TO DO ANY SORT OF AGREEMENTS WITH THOSE TYPES OF INDUSTRIES? WELL, I KNOW, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, IF MY MEMORY SERVES ME CORRECTLY, IS WE LOOKED AT IT ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT OR 4 OR 5 YEARS AGO. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPY TO REVISIT WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND SEE WHAT THE LEGALITY OF THIS ITEM COULD LOOK LIKE. OKAY. AND THAT MIGHT REQUIRE SOME LEGISLATION. SO THAT MIGHT BE AN ITEM THAT WE CAN POSSIBLY LOOK AT. HELP ME UNDERSTAND A DYNAMIC PRICING WHEN IT COMES TO OUR PARKING METERS. IF WE, OBVIOUSLY WE'RE, IT'S ABOUT REVENUE, BUT IF WE START SEEING A SALES TAX DECLINE, A SALES TAX DECLINE OR AN ECONOMIC IMPACT, HOW WILL WE REVISIT THOSE INCREASED PRICING IF WE'RE NOT HITTING? YOU KNOW, WE MIGHT BE GETTING A FEW MORE QUARTERS AT A PARKING METER. BUT IF THAT MEANS OUR BUSINESSES ARE NOW HAVING LESS REVENUE, IS THAT REALLY A A GOOD VALUE FOR THE CITY? SO THE BASE PRICE IS $1, RIGHT? SO WE CANNOT GO BELOW $1. AND WE HAVE INCREASED THE RATE BASED ON UTILIZATION. AND THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE HIGHER UTILIZATION IS 1.25. TECHNICALLY WE CAN GO UP IN THE DYNAMIC PRICING. WHEN WE START DEPLOYING ALL THESE SMART METERS, WE CAN GO UP TO $6 AN HOUR IN SOME OF THESE LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE ALMOST 85% OCCUPANCY RATE. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT. PENDING THE UPGRADE OF OUR SYSTEMS AND AND PROCEDURES. BUT THAT GIVES US THE FLEXIBILITY TO. BUT IF WE SEE A DECLINE IN THE USAGE, THAT PRICE WOULD SCALE BACK. IT MAY SCALE BACK, BUT THE BASE IS $1. RIGHT. OKAY. OKAY. NOW LET'S TALK ABOUT PROJECTS THAT ARE OUTSIDE CONTRACTORS. WE HAVE THINGS IN PLACE TO PENALIZE CONTRACTORS THAT AREN'T DELIVERING IN A TIMELY MANNER. WE KNOW THAT WE COME IN INTO PROJECTS AND A LOT OF UNKNOWNS ARE DISCOVERED, WHETHER IT'S OLD INFRASTRUCTURE OR FRAGILE INFRASTRUCTURE. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO EXPLORE INCENTIVIZING A DEVELOPER TO SPEED UP A PROJECT? [01:55:05] OKAY. TWO THINGS. NUMBER ONE IS WE HAVE TO EXAMINE OUR, I CALL IT THE UPSTREAM, WHICH IS BASICALLY OUR DESIGN STANDARDS, DESIGN SPECIFICATIONS. THE CONTRACT TIME DETERMINATION AND ALL THAT STUFF. SO IN THE UPSTREAM. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY MAKING SOME ADJUSTMENTS AND CHANGES TO THOSE. NUMBER TWO IS TO LOOK INTO HOW WE'RE DOING THE DESIGN BECAUSE FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THE COMMERCE STREET AND THEN WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE HEAD ON, ON OTHER PROJECTS. NOW IS THE PART OF THE DELAY WAS THE UNKNOWN UNDERGROUND UTILITIES THAT WERE THERE. SO THAT'S THAT THE, THE OTHER COMPONENT, WHICH I LIKE WHEN WE DO WHAT WE CALL THE INCENTIVE DISINCENTIVE, MEANING THAT YOU SAY IF YOU FINISH THE CONTRACT AHEAD OF TIME, YOU GET X AMOUNT OF MONEY. HOWEVER, THE CHALLENGE THAT I HAVE ON THE CURRENT COST ESTIMATING OF THE PROJECTS. IT DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STUFF LIKE THAT. SO MAYBE WHEN WE GET INTO THE 2029 OR 2030 BOND, I'LL PUT A LINE ITEM FOR INCENTIVE DISINCENTIVE, AND WE'LL HAVE STRICT RULES ON THE UTILIZATION OF SUCH FUNDS. LIKE WHAT WE HAVE WHEN I WAS WITH MY FORMER EMPLOYER. SO THESE ARE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN DO. AND CERTAINLY WE NEED TO MAKE IT STIFFER FOR NOT MEETING THE, THE, THE SCHEDULE, BUT YOU HAVE TO BE VERY CAREFUL IN MINIMIZING OR ELIMINATING THE RISKS. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU CANNOT TELL THE CONTRACTOR IT'S A DISINCENTIVE HERE. I'M GOING TO CHARGE YOU FOR BEING LATE. AND WHEN WE HAVE NOT DONE OUR HOMEWORK ON THE UNDERGROUND UTILITIES. SO SO THERE IS OPPORTUNITY. I'M DEFINITELY LOOKING INTO THAT BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT SEVERAL HIGH PROFILE PROJECTS COMING UP. ONE IS THE UPTOWN MECHANICAL PROJECTS, AND WE DON'T WANT TO BE IN THAT SITUATION. SO, YOU KNOW, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT PUBLIC TAX DOLLARS, BOND DOLLARS HAVE TO BE USED FOR PUBLIC GOOD. SO A PROJECT. IS A GOOD USE. BUT HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHEN WE'RE IMPACTING BUSINESSES. IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO OFFSET LOST REVENUE WITH BOND DOLLARS OR CITY DOLLARS WHEN THEY ARE IMPACTING OR PROJECT IS DELAYED DUE TO CONSTRUCTION? I WILL HAVE TO DEFER THIS TO THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOLKS BECAUSE, I MEAN, THEY MAY HAVE IF THERE IS ANY ANY STATEWIDE PROGRAM OR ANY PROGRAM, BUT GENERALLY SPEAKING AGAIN, WE TRY TO ENSURE THAT OUR CONTRACTS DO HAVE THE PROVISIONS OF MINIMAL IMPACT TO THE BUSINESSES AND AND TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE IN CONSTANT COMMUNICATION WITH THEM. OKAY. WHEN IT COMES TO CLOSING OF SIDEWALKS OR STREETS WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENCOURAGE SCAFFOLDING OR OTHER MECHANISMS TO ALLOW RIGHT OF WAYS TO STAY OPEN DURING CONSTRUCTION? SO THIS IS MORE OF A COMPLIANCE AND ENFORCEMENT ISSUE. THE ORDINANCE IS CLEAR AND OUR MANUALS AND EVERYTHING IS CLEAR ON ON THE CLOSURE OF SIDEWALKS AND OR THE PROVISIONS IN DOWNTOWN IF THEY WANT TO PUT THE SCAFFOLDING AND SO ON. SO IT'S, LIKE I SAID, IT'S MORE OF A COMPLIANCE. HOPEFULLY WE CAN WORK WITH OUR COLLEAGUES WHO ARE IN THE DEVELOPMENT BUSINESS TO COMPLY. AND BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I, I DON'T LIKE THE FACT THAT I, YOU KNOW, TO GO OUT THERE AND ENFORCE, I'D RATHER HAVE CONVERSATIONS AND AVOID THE ENFORCEMENT PIECE. THANK YOU. WITH THE NEW CHANGES IN THE METAL PLATES WHAT ASSURANCES DO WE HAVE? BECAUSE MY BIGGEST COMPLAINT AS YOU KNOW, IS METAL PLATES THAT ARE NOT SET PROPERLY AND THEY RATTLE AT ALL, AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT, KEEPING RESIDENTS UP, AFFECTING QUALITY OF LIFE. WHAT ARE WE DOING TO ENSURE THAT THOSE ARE AFFIXED PROPERLY? SO AGAIN, VERY SIMILAR TO THE EARLIER QUESTION IS AN ENFORCEMENT AND COMPLIANCE ISSUE. THE ORDINANCE IS VERY CLEAR ESPECIALLY THE REVISED ORDINANCE ON HOW THEY NEED TO SECURE THEM IN, IN THE GROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY ARE SMOOTH WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING OVER THEM. AND FROM ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT, WE NEED TO KIND OF DO A BETTER JOB IN THE ENFORCEMENT. BUT AGAIN, I PREFER FOR OUR UTILITY PARTNERS TO COOPERATE WITH US AND INCLUDING, I MEAN, AGAIN, TO BE FAIR, THAT INCLUDES ALSO OUR PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING SOME OF THE WORK. [02:00:04] THAT REQUIRES UNDERGROUND WORK. THANK YOU. FOLLOWING UP ON CHAIR GRACIE'S COMMENT ON TEXT AREAS THERE ORDINANCE IS DIFFERENT THAN THE CITY ORDINANCE ON THE HEIGHT OF GRASS BEFORE IT BECOMES AN ISSUE. I THINK OURS IS ABOUT A FOOT OR IN THAT AREA, BUT I THINK TEXDOT ALLOWS THEIR PROPERTIES TO, TO GET HIGHER THAN THAT. AND SO HOW DO WE MATCH THEM UP? WE'RE USING OUR, OUR OWN BECAUSE WE'RE RESPONSIBLE. AND I THINK THE ISSUE HERE IS HOW MUCH WE'RE GETTING REIMBURSED VERSUS WHAT WE WANT TO DO. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MAYOR. MR. ROTH, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. GUS AND YOUR TEAM. THANK YOU FOR ALL YOU'RE DOING FOR THE CITY. IT'S A IT'S A MONUMENTAL JOB TO THAT YOU ALL ARE HAVING TO DEAL WITH. I NEED A LITTLE BIT OF EXPLANATION OF HOW YOU ALL ARE STRUCTURED, BECAUSE, QUITE FRANKLY, IN THE GROWING CITY LIKE THIS, TRAFFIC IS NEVER GOING TO GET LESS AND THE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES ARE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO GET MORE. AND SO I GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO GET YOU MORE RESOURCES, HOW TO GET YOU MORE MONEY, HOW TO GET YOU MORE RESOURCES TO HELP KEEP UP WITH WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN AND ALSO BE PROACTIVE FOR THE FUTURE. AND SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW YOU ALL ARE WORKING. OUT OF THE SIX OUT OF THE 600 FOLKS THAT ARE ON SALARY, SO TO SPEAK, OR IN YOUR, YOUR EMPLOYEE BASE. ARE YOU ALL DOING MOST OF THE WORK IN-HOUSE? IS THIS, DOES THAT INCLUDE YOUR CREWS, YOUR, YOUR PEOPLE THAT ARE ACTUALLY DOING THE WORK OUT IN THE, ON THE STREETS AND ACTUALLY PUTTING THE ASPHALT DOWN AND THE CONCRETE. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO AND THEN ONE OF THE FIRST SLIDES I SHOWED BASICALLY HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS STRUCTURED. SO WE'VE GOT SEVEN MAIN DIVISIONS PLANNING, DESIGN, CONSTRUCTION, MAINTENANCE, OPERATIONS SUPPORT, AND INTERAGENCY. SO IN THE MAINTENANCE COMPONENT, THIS IS WHERE WE DO THE GENERAL MAINTENANCE OF THE ROADWAY. SO ALL, GENERALLY SPEAKING, MOST OF IT IS I WOULD SAY 90% IS IN-HOUSE SO IN-HOUSE MEANING THROUGH OUR WORKFORCE. SO THOSE FOLKS WHO DO THE POTHOLE REPAIRS. AND THOSE ARE THE FOLKS THAT DO ALSO THE ONYX TREATMENT, LIKE THE TREATMENT OF THE PAVEMENT AND SO ON. AND ONE THING ALSO THAT I FAILED TO MENTION, AND THIS IS A GOOD TIME TO MENTION IT IS VERY FEW KNOW THAT THIS TEAM ALSO IS THE TEAM THAT DOES THE RESPONSE TO ICE STORMS. SO THEY DO THE SANDING, THE PRETREATMENT OF THE ROADWAY AND SO ON. SO THIS IS FROM COMING FROM MY BUDGET. SO THERE IS NO SEPARATE LINE ITEM FOR THAT. AND THEN ALSO THE SAME TEAM PROVIDE SUPPORT TO DALLAS FIRE RESCUE AND TO DPD LIKE DALLAS FIRE RESCUE WHEN THEY HAVE LIKE A THREE ALARM FIRE OR FOUR ALARM FIRE OR SOMETHING. THEY GO WITH THE TEAM TO PROVIDE ALL THE EQUIPMENT AND THE SUPPORT THAT GOES WITH THEM. SO EVERY TIME WE HAVE A SITUATION LIKE THIS, TP IS THERE AND THIS IS THAT WHAT THAT TEAM DOES ON THE CONSTRUCTION MANAGEMENT, ENGINEERING AND INSPECTION PROGRAM. THIS IS WHERE MOST OF THE ON CALL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT IS. SO WE DO MOST OF THE RESURFACING, MEANING THAT WHEN YOU REMOVE THE PAVEMENT AND YOU PUT IN NEW PAVEMENT, THIS IS WHERE IT IS ALL CONTRACT. AND CERTAINLY THE RECONSTRUCTION, THE DESIGN AND RECONSTRUCTION, ALL THAT IS ALL CONTRACTED. SO ON THE DESIGN SIDE, IT WILL BE TO THE CONSULTANTS WHO WILL DO THE DESIGN AND ON THE CONSTRUCTION. IT'S THE BID AND AWARD AS PER STATE RULES. IS THAT IN YOUR LINE ITEMS 30, 70 AND 30, 72. THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND CONTRACTOR SERVICE FEES. THAT IS CORRECT. SO THAT THAT'S ABOUT THAT'S ABOUT 4040 SOMETHING MILLION 47 MILLION. AND THEN YOU'VE GOT YOUR EMPLOYEE BASE, WHICH IS YOUR IN-HOUSE CORRECT OF ABOUT ANOTHER 50 MILLION. SO OUT OF THE OUT OF THE 160 MILLION, YOU GOT ABOUT 150 FOR ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION RELATED STUFF. NO, THE DESIGN OUT OF THE EXPENSES OF 170 MILLION, 50 MILLION IS PERSONNEL AND ASSOCIATED WORK. AND THE REST OF IT IS MATERIALS AND CONTRACTS. SO CLOSE TO BETWEEN 80, 90 MILLION ISH TIME FRAME IS THE IS, IS, IS ASPHALT ON THE GROUND, SO TO SPEAK. I MEAN, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE WORK PART OF IT. YES. I MEAN, THAT'S PART OF THAT. AND ON THE TSM. COMPUTER STUFF IS THAT IS THAT THE THE 875,000 THAT YOU HAVE ALLOCATED FOR THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS, [02:05:07] IS THAT AN ONGOING FEE? HAVE YOU ALREADY PAID FOR THAT? HOW MUCH IS ARE WE ARE WE COST. IS THAT NEW SYSTEM GOING TO IMPACT. SO CURRENTLY THE ADVANCED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM I THINK THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO. SO CURRENTLY I'M MY ESTIMATE IS ABOUT 20 MILLION OR SO TO GET THE SYSTEM IN PLUS FIVE YEARS OF MAINTENANCE. THE MONEY IS ALREADY AVAILABLE. SO WE SECURED $10 MILLION IN FEDERAL FUNDS AND $10 MILLION FROM THE 2024 BOND. SO THE MONEY IS THERE. THE ONGOING COST, IF YOU WILL, OF UPDATING THE SOFTWARE AND THE HARDWARE BECAUSE, FOR EXAMPLE, CONTROLLERS THAT ARE IN THE ROADWAY, THAT WHICH IS THE BRAIN OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS MAXIMUM FIVE YEARS. AND THEN WE HAVE TO START GETTING INTO THE REPLACEMENT. LAST YEAR, WHEN I MADE THE PRESENTATION TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL ENCOURAGED ME TO START LOOKING INTO MONETIZING THE DATA EXCHANGE BECAUSE THERE ARE THIRD PARTIES WHO WANT TO JOIN AND OBTAIN DATA FROM US. AND WE'RE SAYING IS WE NEED TO MONETIZE THIS THING HERE BECAUSE THE CITY CANNOT CONTINUE, IF YOU WILL DOWN THE PATH OF SUBSIDIZING THE NEED TO REPLACE ALL THESE EQUIPMENT. SO AT SOME POINT, ONCE WE DEPLOY THE SYSTEM AND EXTERNAL ORGANIZATIONS START WANTING TO JOIN THE SYSTEM WHETHER IT BE IN DART OR SOMEONE ELSE, WHOMEVER WANTS TO JOIN THE SYSTEM AND OBTAIN INFORMATION FROM MY CONTROLLER, THERE WILL BE EXCHANGE OF DATA. AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THERE WILL BE A CHARGE IN SUCH A WAY IN MY, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO COUNCIL AT THAT TIME IS TO RECOUP SOME OF THE COST AND THE COST TO UPDATE OUR SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE SO THAT THE CITY GENERAL FUNDS DOES NOT CONTINUE TO SPEND MONEY ON IT. SO THAT 875,000 IS PRETTY MUCH THAT'S YOUR ONGOING JUST MAINTENANCE UPGRADES IS SORT OF KEEPING IT. THAT'S SORT OF YOUR SERVICE FOR THAT FOR THAT PIECE OF THE TRAFFIC SIGNAL. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE, THE, THE LINE ITEM THAT HAS TO DO WITH LIGHT AND POWER EXPENSE OF 17 MILLION. EXPLAIN THAT TO ME. SO THAT'S LINE 2140, RIGHT? THE TOTAL IS 21 MILLION. ABOUT 17 MILLION IS PLUS OR MINUS. I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBER HERE, BUT THIS IS THE TO PAY OUR BILL, JUST LIKE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE PAY THEIR ELECTRICITY BILL. WE HAVE TO PAY OUR BILL TO ONCOR TO MAINTAIN THESE ALMOST 73,000 STREET LIGHTS THAT ARE UNDER THEIR CONTROL. AND THAT INCLUDES THE THE COST OF THE ELECTRICITY AS WELL AS THE COST OF MAINTENANCE AND REPLACEMENT. AND A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE HAD A CONTRACT. I MEAN, THE I MEAN THE COUNCIL RESOLUTION APPROVING A CONTRACT WITH ENCORE THAT ANY TIME THAT A LIGHT BULB GOES OUT, THEY REPLACE IT WITH LED. SO AT THAT TIME, THEY PREDICTED ABOUT SEVEN YEARS BEFORE THE FULL CITY IS TRANSFERRED INTO A LED. AND THAT'S STILL IN EFFECT. ENCORE IS TAKING CARE OF THE UPGRADES. SO EVERY TIME A LIGHT BULB GOES OUT, THEY REPLACE IT WITH LED. AND THEN IN YOUR, IN THE SOURCES OF FUNDS, YOU HAVE ABOUT $100 MILLION THIS YEAR, 108 MILLION ALLOCATED THROUGH BOND FINANCING AND OTHER RESOURCES. IS THAT A PRETTY, PRETTY ACCURATE, I THINK IS THAT MONEY IN THIS BUDGET HERE? DOES IT REFLECT IN YOUR BUDGET OR IS THIS EXTRA MONEY THAT WE'RE GETTING FROM THE BONDS TO DO OTHER WORK OR PREVIOUS WORK, THAT SPECIFIC PROJECT WORK. I'M NOT CLEAR AS TO WHERE THE MONEY'S GOING. WHAT'S HE DOING? EVERY YEAR WE LOOK AT HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO NEED IN BOND FUNDING CASH. OKAY, SO WE PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION TO THE BOND OFFICE AND SAY, BASED ON OUR SCHEDULE, THIS IS WHERE THE MONEY IS GOING TO BE NEEDED OUT OF THAT MONEY. WE HAVE THE TRANCHES WHERE FROM WHAT SECTION. SO WHEN WE APPROVED THE BOND BACK IN 2024, WE HAD A FULL STREET RECONSTRUCTION STREET RESURFACING, FOR EXAMPLE, SIDEWALK AND SO ON AND TRAFFIC SIGNALS. SO OUT OF THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE FULLY ALLOCATED FOR THE BOND FROM THE BOND, LIKE 108, WE'RE SAYING ABOUT 60 SOME MILLION WILL BE FOR STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND STREET RESURFACING THAT GOES INTO THE 800 LANE MILES FOR THIS YEAR IS THE 800 LANE MILES. ARE YOU LIMITED BECAUSE OF. OF MONEY? ARE YOU LIMITED BECAUSE OF CAPACITY? THAT IT'S JUST. YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH CAN YOU DO IT? COULD WE IMPROVE THAT? CAN WE MAKE THAT MORE? AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE LIMITED BY MONEY TOO, BUT IS THERE A PHYSICAL OR A STAFFING OR A, [02:10:05] OR A CONTRACTING THAT WOULD THAT WOULD ALLOW YOU TO DO MORE IF NECESSARY, OR IF WE WOULD WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO MORE ON CONTRACTING. WE'RE NOT LIMITED. SO WE CAN RAMP UP ON THAT ONE. ALL WHAT WE NEED TO DO IS JUST INCREASE THAT THE WE'RE A BIT LIMITED ON THE IN-HOUSE WORK OR THE INTERNAL WORK. SO YOU NEED MORE PEOPLE TO DO IT AND YOU NEED MORE MONEY TO PAY THOSE PEOPLE TO DO IT. WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, I MEAN, IT DEPENDS ON WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. SO IF WE'RE GOING FOR RESURFACING, I DON'T NEED TO KIND OF MORE PEOPLE TO DO IN-HOUSE WORK. OKAY. AND THEN AS FAR AS THE WHAT'S INTERNAL SERVICE FUND, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SO GENERALLY ARE THE BOND PRIMARILY BECAUSE THE, WHEN, WHEN WE APPROVED THE, WHEN WE, THE VOTERS APPROVED THE BOND, THE MONEY THAT WE HAVE IN THE BOND INCLUDES THE COST TO DELIVER THE PROGRAM AND THE COST TO DELIVER THE PROGRAM INCLUDES THE SALARIES FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE WORKING ON BOND RELATED PROJECTS. AND THAT'S BASICALLY THE 126 POSITIONS THAT YOU SEE IN THE IN OUR PORTFOLIO. SO THAT INTERNAL SERVICE FUND HAS A SEPARATE, IT'S A SEPARATE DESIGNATED AREA WITHIN THE TRANSPORTATION. IT'S GOT A SEPARATE STAFFING. IT'S GOT A SEPARATE OR SEPARATE. BUT IT'S GOT A SEPARATE ACCOUNTABILITY AND A SEPARATE BUDGET PART OF IT. SEPARATE BUDGET LINE. SO THAT BASICALLY WE CAN TRACK, FOR EXAMPLE, LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS A $1 MILLION PROJECT, RIGHT? IN TOTAL COST, THAT COST MAY INCLUDE $100,000 FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, SALARY RELATED AND SO ON. SO THIS IS HOW EACH PROJECT, SO WHEN YOU SEE A BOND VALUE, IT IS FOR THE TOTAL PROJECT COST. OKAY. AND ON THE STREETCAR FUNDING OF 2.8 MILLION. WHERE DOES THAT I DON'T IS THAT I DIDN'T SEE A LINE ITEM IN THE DETAILED BUDGET FOR STREETCAR. IS IT JUST MIXED IN THERE WITH PERSONNEL AND, AND PHYSICAL REPAIRS? AND WHERE DOES SO WHERE IS THAT MONEY COMING FROM? AND, AND WHERE IS THAT MONEY SHOWN IN YOUR BUDGET? SO THE MONEY IS WE'RE SHOWING IT AS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM, WHICH IS THE MONEY THAT IS NEEDED FROM THE GENERAL FUND AT CURRENTLY, I THINK IT'S AT 2.8 MILLION. SO THE WE HAVE A CONTRACT WITH DART WHERE DART OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE STREETCAR FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. AND AND CURRENTLY WE'RE FINISHING UP THIS STUDY FOR THE OPTIONS THAT WE CAN EXPLORE TO SUPPLEMENT THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE STREETCAR. MATTER OF FACT, I JUST GOT THE DRAFT. I'M GOING TO REVIEW IT AND THEN WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO COORDINATE TO PUT IT ON THE TRANSPORTATION COMMITTEE TO PRESENT IT. AND IF AND WITH THE RECOMMENDATION AND IF WE'RE GOOD TO GO, THEN WE SHOULD START BEGINNING TO IMPLEMENT SOME OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS SO THAT WE CAN AT LEAST MY VIEW IS STABILIZE AND CAP THE, THE GROWTH OF THE EXPENDITURES FROM THE GENERAL FUNDS AND START ON THE DOWNWARD TREND IN YOUR DETAILED BUDGET. I DON'T SEE A SPECIFIC LINE ITEM FOR STREETCAR, SO THAT'S WHY I'M JUST THAT'S WHAT I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WHERE IT IS IN THE DETAILED BUDGET, JUST TO SORT OF IDENTIFY IT. I THINK IT'S IN THE INTERAGENCY MANAGEMENT IN THE IN THE DETAILED BUDGET. OKAY. AND I'LL FOLLOW UP. SORRY, I JUST, I JUST WANT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE IT'S IN THERE. IT'S NOT A DUPLICATION BECAUSE, I MEAN, I THINK WE, WE, WE PEELED IT OFF INITIALLY. WE PUT IT IN THERE AND THEN WE PULLED IT OFF AS A STANDALONE. SO ON SLIDE 11 WE HAVE IT AS A STANDALONE ITEM, RIGHT 2.824 AND 2627. AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION IS ON THE WHAT IS CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION TRANSFERS OF 20 MILLION PROGRAMING OF 3.6 MILLION. THAT'S LINE ITEMS 36, 37 AND 34. 34. SO THIS IS THE I THINK YOU'RE REFERRING TO THE STREET AND ALLEY FUND. AND I DON'T I DON'T, I DON'T IT'S I'M LOOKING AT THE AT THE DETAIL BUDGET EXPENSE BUDGET. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE IT HERE WITH ME, BUT I THINK THAT'S WHAT THE THIS IS COVERING. AND USUALLY. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE GET SOME REIMBURSEMENTS FROM DALLAS WATER UTILITIES STORM DRAIN FOR SOME OF THE ACTIVITIES THAT WE GET. [02:15:03] AND ALSO WE GET SOME REIMBURSEMENTS FROM SANITATION FOR SOME OF THE LIKE, FOR EXAMPLE, FOR SOME OF THE PAVEMENT THAT WE HAVE TO REPAIR IN ALLEYS AND OTHER LOCATIONS WHERE THEY GO, THEY GO THROUGH. AND THEN. KENT, DO YOU WANT TO ADD THAT? YES. THE $20 MILLION IS BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND OPERATING BUDGET, BUT THEN IT IS MOVED AS A CAPITAL CONSTRUCTION TRANSFER TO THE STREET AND ALLEY IMPROVEMENT FUND. SO THAT'S A SEPARATE FUND. IT'S MULTI YEAR SO THAT IF THERE'S A BALANCE REMAINING AT SEPTEMBER 30TH IT DOESN'T LAPSE. SO THE MONEY IS BUDGETED IN THE GENERAL FUND. BUT FOR EXPENDITURE PURPOSES IT'S MOVED TO THE STREET IMPROVEMENT FUND AND SPENT FROM THERE. SO WHERE IT IS IS YOU'VE GOT THE YOU'VE GOT THE, THE, THE EXPENSE IS UP, UP, UP ON TOP, BUT THEN YOU GOT THE BOTTOM, THE CAPITAL REIMBURSEMENT, THAT'S 14 MILLION. THAT SORT OF OFFSETS SOME OF THAT 20 MILLION. YES. SO THOSE ARE THE REIMBURSEMENTS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT, THE STORM AND THE OTHER STUFF THAT. OKAY. AND PROGRAMING 3.6 WHAT IS THAT, BILL? I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. YOU'RE GOOD. YOU CAN COME BACK. I'M GOING TO GO TO CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN NOW FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MY FIRST QUESTION FOR YOU IS I OFTEN ASK YOU HOW MANY CARS PER DAY GO ON THIS ROAD AND YOU SEEM TO KNOW THE ANSWER TO COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO POINT. I DON'T KNOW HOW YOU KNOW THE ANSWERS TO ALL THESE QUESTIONS, BUT LET'S JUST SAY COIT ROAD. I SAY, HOW MANY CARS PER DAY? YOU SAY THERE'S 55,000 CARS PER DAY. HOW DO YOU KNOW THAT? SO GENERALLY, I MEAN, ENCOG HAS AND, AND TEXTILE DO HAVE SOME MODELING AND WE LOOK AT THEM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY HAVE TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE GROWTH OF THE AREA. SO FOR THE MOST PART, MOST OF THEM ARE AVAILABLE THROUGH THE CORRIDORS. I MEAN TRAFFIC STUDIES AND THEN ON THE LOCALS, ANYTIME THAT WE DO HAVE LIKE A ESPECIALLY WARRANTED TRAFFIC SIGNALS, WE GENERALLY HAVE AN IDEA OF HOW MANY WHAT'S THE VOLUME IS AT THE INTERSECTION WHERE WE'RE PUTTING INTO NEW TRAFFIC SIGNALS. AND SO DO YOU KNOW, ARE THEY JUST COUNTING CELL PHONES WITH BIG DATA? SO THERE AGAIN, THE ENTITY CALLED MODELING IS USING A COMBINATION OF THESE THINGS. AND NOW AS WE GO INTO THE ATM S, THEN WE SHOULD HAVE THE CAPABILITY IN THE SYSTEM OF ACTUALLY COUNTING REAL TIME HOW MANY VEHICLES ARE GOING THROUGH THE INTERSECTIONS IN ALL DIRECTIONS. AND THAT'S THE CAMERAS THAT ARE ON THE SIGNALS. CORRECT IT. CURRENTLY, THE CURRENT CAMERAS DO NOT HAVE THAT CAPABILITIES. WE HAVE THEM. WE'RE TESTING THEM AT COUPLE OF LOCATIONS, BUT THE FUTURE ONES WILL HAVE THAT CAPABILITY. BUT AGAIN, IT GOES BACK THIS IS WHY I'M SO RESERVED ON THIS ITEM BECAUSE WE'RE COLLECTING DATA NOW. WE'RE COLLECTING DATA ALL OVER THE PLACE. THAT IS TRUE. YOU MADE SOME COMMENTS ABOUT TRAFFIC SIGNALS AND HOW MANY OF THEM ARE BEING REPLACED. I THINK IT'S 50. I THINK THAT'S INCREDIBLE. WONDERFUL. BUT THE PAVEMENT MARKINGS THAT ARE GOING TO GO DOWN THERE. ARE THEY PART OF THE CONTRACT WITH IF THE FOLKS THAT ARE PUTTING IN THE SIGNAL, OR DO WE GO BACK AS THE CITY AND GO BACK AND DO THOSE MARKINGS? ANY TIME THAT WE REPLACE THE TRAFFIC SIGNALS, ALL PAVEMENT MARKINGS ARE PART OF IT WITH THE CONTRACT WITH THE CONTRACTOR. WONDERFUL. THAT'S GREAT. YOU ALSO MENTIONED THAT THERE MAY BE SOME SAFETY IMPLICATIONS OF AN ASPHALT OVERLAY. WOULD YOU BE ABLE TO EXPAND ON THAT AT ALL? YEAH. SO WITHOUT GETTING INTO DETAILS NUMBER ONE IS WHEN THE ASPHALT LAYER STARTS FAILING, IT CREATES A POTHOLE SITUATION THAT SHOULDN'T EXIST TO START WITH. NUMBER TWO IS WHEN WE DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT WITHOUT MAKING THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE INFRASTRUCTURE, WE MAY END UP IN SITUATIONS WHERE THE THE OVERLAY IMPACTS THE CURBS. OKAY. THANK YOU. I WILL SAY THAT FOR ROADS THAT ARE VERY BAD IN MY DISTRICT, WHICH ARE MOSTLY ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE THERE IS A LOT OF ASPHALT BEING KICKED UP AND I WAS JUST WONDERING IF THAT WAS RELATED TO IT. SO BACK TO THE PRESENTATION PART. IF SOMEBODY MADE A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO GIVE MORE MONEY FOR ROAD REPAIR. ARE YOU ABLE TO DEPLOY THAT? AGAIN, BUILDING ON WHAT I, YOU KNOW, WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER ROFF ASKED JUST A FEW MINUTES AGO IS ON THE CONTRACTING SIDE FOR RESURFACING. IT'S ALL ABOUT CONTRACT. [02:20:01] WE CAN RAMP UP. OKAY. WELL, OUR RESIDENTS TOLD US THAT WAS NUMBER ONE. AND WHILE YOU DO HAVE MORE LANE MILES OUTLINED, I'M NOT SURE WE'RE IT ENOUGH TO ACTUALLY GET AHEAD OF WHERE WE'RE AT. COULD YOU EXPLAIN FOR ON SLIDE 11 WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SUMMARY OF PROGRAMS FOR GENERAL FUND FOR PARKING MANAGEMENT AND ENFORCEMENT, YOU'VE GOT $9 MILLION ESSENTIALLY IN THE BUDGET, BUT WHAT IS THE REVENUE FOR THAT LINE ITEM? I THINK THIS YEAR WE'RE AT ALREADY AT THIS POINT HERE, WE'RE, WE'RE PROJECTING TO BE AT 11.5 MILLION OR SOMETHING. OKAY, GREAT. AND THEN DOES THAT REVENUE, IS THAT DEDICATED BACK TO TRANSPORTATION OR IS THAT JUST GOES TO GENERAL FUND GENERAL FUNDS? MAYBE THAT SHOULD BE DEDICATED BACK. OKAY. NUMBER TWO ON SLIDE 18. FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU FOR COMING TO OUR TOWN HALL LAST NIGHT. I HAD A NUMBER OF RESIDENTS SAY THEY WERE GLAD TO SEE YOU. BECAUSE YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN SO MANY PROJECTS WITH US, BUT THE 600 TO 800, 000 PER MILE IN ALLEYS, I WILL SAY, I DON'T KNOW ANYONE IN DISTRICT 12 WHO DOESN'T THINK THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE REDONE. BOTH I AND THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER HAVE PRIORITIZED OUR THOROUGHFARE STREETS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO GET PLACES. AND I WILL SAY OUR RESIDENTIAL STREETS ARE, ARE LACKING. BUT THAT ALLEY COST IS VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANT. AND I'M JUST GOING TO GO BACK TO THIS WHOLE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD ABOUT SANITATION IN THE ALLEY PICKUP, THAT IF WE DESIGN NEIGHBORHOODS WITHOUT THE ALLEYS AND EVERYBODY HAD FRONT ENTRY TO THEIR HOMES, WE WOULD NEVER BE MAINTAINING THESE ALLEYS. THERE WOULD NEVER BE AN EXPECTATION OR AN OBSTACLE TO HAVING CURBSIDE SANITATION. IT'S JUST THAT WHEN YOU'VE LIVED IN A HOME FOR 50 YEARS AND IT WAS BUILT AROUND ALLEY PICKUP, IT'S NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO SWITCH TO ANYTHING THAT'S WORKABLE ON CURB. SO I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT WE CONSIDER THAT AS KIND OF A MANDATE FOR OUR NEW DEVELOPMENTS GOING FORWARD. ON SLIDE 20 FIRST THE OBSERVATION ABOUT THE FORECAST FOR THE LANE MILES. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU'VE GOT A 25% INCREASE IN PREVENTATIVE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT IS WHAT ARE THE ACTIVITIES ASSOCIATED WITH PREVENTIVE VERSUS MAINTENANCE. SO THE PREVENTATIVE. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A, LET'S SAY ASPHALT ROADWAY AND IT'S ABOUT THREE, FOUR YEARS OLD. GENERALLY SPEAKING, ON AN ASPHALT ROADWAY, THE LIFE CYCLE ON THAT IS BETWEEN 8 AND 12 YEARS DEPENDING ON THE TRAFFIC. SO IN ORDER TO PREVENT IT FROM GOING INTO DETERIORATION STAGE TOO FAST. SO WHAT WE DO IS WE DO LIKE A MICRO SEAL SEALING ON IT TO SEAL ANY OF THE CRACKS AND SO ON. BECAUSE GENERALLY PAVEMENT AND WATER ARE DON'T GO ALONG. SO WHEN WATER GETS INTO THE CRACKS AND THEN GETS INTO THE PAVEMENT STRUCTURE, PRETTY MUCH WE'RE DONE. SO WE DO THESE PREVENTATIVE TREATMENTS TO PRESERVE AND EXTEND THE LIFE CYCLE OF THE OF THE PAVEMENT. SO IN LOOKING AT THESE FOUR DIFFERENT TREATMENT TYPES. IS THIS THE MIX YOU WOULD IDEALLY WANT, OR IS THERE A DIFFERENT MIX THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOWARDS OVER THE YEARS? IT DEPENDS ON THE ROADWAY. FOR EXAMPLE, THE ROADWAY THAT YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH IS FRANKFORT ROAD. WHEN THEY DID FRANKFORT ROAD, THEY APPROACHED IT WITH, INSTEAD OF DOING THE FULL RESURFACING, MEANING THE FULL PAVEMENT REPLACEMENT AND PUTTING IT BACK, THEY OPTIMIZE THE USE OF THE FUNDS AND REMOVE THE PANELS THAT HAVE FAILED. SO IN THIS CASE, IT WORKED. IS IT IDEAL? PROBABLY NOT. SO WHAT WE HAVE DONE HERE, GETTING WITH MY ENGINEERS AND WE SAID, OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW APPROACH TO THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, MEANING THAT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS DO THE WHAT WE CALL THE CONTINUOUSLY REINFORCED CONCRETE PAVING. SO WHEN YOU'RE DRIVING, YOU'RE NOT FEELING THOSE JOINTS EVERY 20FT. IT IS PRETTY JARRING. IT LOOKS LIKE A PATCHWORK QUILT WHEN YOU DO THAT, THEN, ESPECIALLY ON THE MAJOR CORRIDORS, THEN YOU'LL HAVE MUCH BETTER LOAD CARRYING CAPACITY MUCH LONGER LONGEVITY AND MUCH BETTER PERFORMANCE OVERALL. AND CERTAINLY THIS IS THE INTENT ON HILLCREST. OBVIOUSLY THIS IS GOING TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE DIFFICULT OR CHALLENGING FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO CUT INTO OUR PAVEMENT, BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT THAT MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE FOR THEM TO REPAIR IT. BUT THAT'S THE IDEA IS TO MINIMIZE THE COST OF REPLACEMENT AND REPAIR. SO SPECIFICALLY, I MEAN, I'M JUST GOING TO TELL YOU HILLCREST AND DISTRICT 12 IS TERRIBLE. [02:25:03] I MEAN, JUST ALMOST UNDRIVABLE IN PLACES. SO ARE YOU TELLING THE UTILITIES LIKE HAVE AT IT RIGHT NOW? BECAUSE SOON YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO THIS AND CREDIT TO STAFF BOTH ON TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS AND DWU. THEY'RE WORKING TOGETHER. SO WE'RE ASKING THEM FOR A HILLCREST PLAN THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH THE THREE DISTRICTS, SO THAT AT LEAST PEOPLE WILL KNOW WHEN WE'RE GOING TO BE THERE. CERTAINLY. AGAIN, WE'VE GOT THE CHALLENGES ON THAT ROADWAY FROM WALNUT HILL GOING NORTH. YEAH. WELL, I MEAN, CERTAINLY DOWN BY ROYAL IT'S TERRIBLE. BUT NORTH OF MCCALLUM TO HILLCREST NORTHBOUND. I MEAN THAT THING IS SO BAD. ON SLIDE 22 MY FIRST QUESTION IS YOU OUTLINE YOUR GO FORWARD APPROACH. SOUNDS GOOD. DOES THAT ADDRESS ALL OF THE AUDIT RECOMMENDATIONS. SO A COUPLE OF THEM. YES. SO WHEN WE SAY FOR EXAMPLE CONTINUED FOCUS ON ENHANCING PROJECT DELIVERY, IT IS EVERYTHING FROM PROPER SCHEDULING TO PAPERWORK TO CONTROL OF THE QUALITY TO THE PURCHASING OF MATERIALS. I MEAN, SO THERE'S A LOT LUMPED IN HERE THAT DEFINITELY IS IN LINE WITH WHAT THE AUDIT FINDING IS, IS, AND TO ADDRESS IT. AND CERTAINLY THE ITEM NUMBER ONE, WHICH WILL INCLUDE THE INNOVATIVE SOLUTIONS AND THE MODERNIZATION OF THE UPDATE OF THE PROCESSES, BECAUSE THAT WAS ONE OF THE IDENTIFIED WEAKNESSES. WELL, THE AUDIT WASN'T GREAT. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT YOU ARE TO BE COMMENDED FOR ASKING TO BE AUDITED AS YOU TOOK ON THAT NEW JOB. I THINK THAT'S AN UNUSUAL STEP TO TAKE AND COURAGEOUS STEP. AND ALSO THAT I THINK YOU PROBABLY KNEW YOU WERE INHERITING A NUMBER OF ISSUES IN THE PUBLIC WORKS AREA, AND WE NEED THEM TO BE RECTIFIED. AND SO I GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT YOU HAD ALREADY STARTED WORKING ON IT, AS INDICATED IN THE AUDIT. SO GOOD JOB TO YOU. I'M OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK TO A THREE MINUTE ROUND. SO WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I KIND OF WANT TO PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT CHUCK GRACEY WAS SAYING WHEN HE WAS DEALING WITH THE OVERGROWTH ON LEDBETTER AND MYSTIC ALSO. WE HAVE THOSE OVERGROWTH ON MORRELL AND CORINTH AND EVEN SOME ON SUNNYVALE. AND THE CHALLENGE IS THAT WHEN WE DO OUR SR REPORTS, THEY COME BACK AS COMPLETE. AND THEN I LITERALLY DRIVE TO SEE IF THEY'VE BEEN COMPLETED BECAUSE OUR PROGRESS MONITOR ONLY TO FIND OUT THEY HAVE NOT BEEN COMPLETED. SO HOW DO WE FIX THOSE PROBLEMS? SO WE NEED TO KIND OF, AGAIN, FOLLOW UP ON THESE SITUATIONS BECAUSE WHAT COULD BE A SITUATION? AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT WHAT COULD BE A SITUATION. AS I MENTIONED TO COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY, IS THE FACT THAT IT COULD BE AN OVERGROWTH FROM THE PRIVATE PROPERTY ONTO THE ROADWAY. AND IF THAT IS THE SITUATION, IF THE SR COMES TO THE TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, THEY CLOSE IT AND TRANSFER IT TO A NEW SERVICE REQUEST. ON THE OTHER ONE, AND I'M NOT SAYING THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENING, BUT THAT COULD BE A POTENTIAL SITUATION OF WHAT APPEARS TO BE THAT TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS CLOSED THE ESSER BEFORE ACTION WAS TAKEN. SO HAVING SAID THAT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU ON THE SPECIFICS OF ANY SITUATION THAT AND LOCATION THAT WE NEED TO LOOK AT. NOW, ARE YOU SAYING OVERGROWTH, ARE YOU SAYING OVERGROWTH FROM A RESIDENT? SO IF THEY LIKE LET'S SAY IF THE TREE ROOTS IS ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY AND THEN IT OVERGROWS ONTO THE PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY, THEN WE WORK CLOSELY WITH CODE TO TALK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER TO TO TRIM THAT TREE. WHAT IF IT'S JUST A BRIDGE THAT THE, THE CITY. IT'S JUST THE BRIDGE. WHAT IS IT? JUST THE BRIDGE. IT IF IT IS THE BRIDGE, LIKE ON IN OUR RIGHT OF WAY. YES. THEN WE ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO TAKE CARE OF IT. AND IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT TAKEN CARE OF IT HAPPY. LIKE I SAID, I'LL FOLLOW UP ON IT AND WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT IT'S TAKEN CARE OF. OKAY. AND THEN WHAT? WE'RE DEALING WITH THE MORNING. WHAT IS THE BEST MORNING? WHO, WHO WHO WHO'S THE ONE THAT DOES THE RIGHT WAY FOR THE FOR THE MORNING. SO IT ISN'T THE TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS. SO IT'S NOT TECH STOCK. IT'S TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS. CORRECT. WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT THAT WE HANDLE THE MOWING AND LITTER PICKUP ON THEIR FACILITIES. WHO DEALS WITH THE SCHEDULING FOR THE MOWING? SO WE DO GET REIMBURSEMENTS FOR I THINK FOR MOST CYCLES FROM TEXDOT. AND WE SUPPLEMENT IT FROM OUR GENERAL FUNDS, BUT WE'RE KIND OF LIMITED TO HOW MUCH FUNDING WE HAVE FOR US TO KIND OF GO OUT THERE AND HAVE OUR CONTRACTORS, OUR PEOPLE GO OUT THERE AND DO IT. SO WHAT DO WE NEED TO DO TO PREVENT THE GRASS FROM GROWING EXCESSIVELY WHERE IT LOOKS EXTREMELY HORRIBLE, [02:30:03] LIKE RIGHT NOW IN MY DISTRICT OFF OF 35. AGAIN, IF THERE IS A SPECIFIC SITUATION WE'LL GO TAKE CARE OF IT. BUT I'M JUST TALKING AS A GENERAL THIS IS HOW WE HAVE CERTAIN MOTORCYCLES PER YEAR, PER PERIOD. AND THEN THE PERIOD STARTS FROM MARCH UNTIL NOVEMBER. OKAY. I WOULD LIKE TO MOWING SCHEDULE BECAUSE I JUST THINK THAT IT'S JUST MY OPINION. I JUST DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT A FOREST EVERY TIME I'M DRIVING DOWN THE STREET AT A CERTAIN PART OF THE MONTH, AND THEN I HAVE TO CALL IN AND HAVE MY OFFICE CALL IN TO GET SOMETHING DONE THAT I FEEL SHOULD BE A NORMAL TAKE CARE OF JUST BY I JUST LOOKING AND SAY IT'S TIME TO CUT. HAPPY TO SHARE THAT INFORMATION WITH YOU. ALSO I MET WITH KENNETH HANNA AND TINA TINA I BELIEVE SOME TIME AGO IN THE OFFICE AND WE WAS DEALING WITH ONE OF THE ALLEYS. THAT WAS PROBABLY THE WORST ALLEY, WHAT THEY DESCRIBED TO ME. AND IT'S NEVER BEEN FIXED. AND I THINK IT WAS IN THE PREVIOUS MODEL. I THINK THE EARLY YEAR 2000 BOND HAVE NEVER BEEN TAKEN CARE OF. SO WHAT DO WE DO AND WHAT DO WE DO ABOUT THOSE SITUATIONS WHERE THOSE FUND THOSE PROBLEMS HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, BUT THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN RECTIFIED. SO AGAIN, I'M GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK INTO THE SPECIFIC SITUATIONS. BUT I CAN TELL YOU IS THIS HERE IS THAT IF IT WAS IN THE BOND, WE WILL DO IT BECAUSE IT'S FUNDED. OKAY. SO AND I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. LIKE I SAID, I KNOW I MET WITH YOU AND THE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, MISS DALE, AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS COMING OUT AND MEETING WITH ME. AND ANOTHER WORK THAT YOU DO IS, IS TEDIOUS AND IT'S VERY EXTENSIVE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT, THAT I'M ON RECORD SAYING THAT SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE CHALLENGES THAT WE'VE HAD IN MY COMMUNITY OR EQUITY ISSUE. AND, AND WHEN I WAS ON THE SCHOOL BOARD, MY, MY DISTRICT RAN FROM WILMER, TEXAS OAK CLIFF, WEST DALLAS, UPTOWN, NORTH DALLAS. SO I HAVE AN IDEA OF WHAT'S GOING ON, BUT WE CAN'T SAY WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING WHEN IT COMES TO CERTAIN PARTS OF THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT DEALS WITH THE MOST BLACK AND BROWN COMMUNITY. SO I WANT TO GET THAT ADDRESSED AND GET THAT FIXED. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU, SIR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. CHAIRMAN GRACEY RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU AND THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM GETTING TITLES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON FOR FOR THOSE QUESTIONS. AND I WANT TO FOLLOW UP WITH THAT TO, AGAIN, JUST UNDERSTANDING ONE, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE, THE COPY OF THE MOWING SCHEDULE. LIKE WHAT, WHAT WAS THE MOWING CYCLES, YOU KNOW, THIS YEAR COMPARED TO WHAT THE PLAN IS FOR THE NEXT, YOU KNOW, 12 MONTHS OR SO FROM THAT PERSPECTIVE? THE OTHER PIECE THAT, THAT I GET AN OFTEN COMPLAINT AND IT'S, IT'S, AND AGAIN, THIS IS MOSTLY BETWEEN IS IT CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY OR IS IT TXDOT? BUT IF YOU GO DOWN 67, YOU KNOW, AND THEY HAVE THE, THE RETAINING WALLS AND THEY'RE MISSING, YOU KNOW, A CHUNK OF THE WALL OR IT'S SLID AND IT'S OFF TRACK OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE, THE MAINTENANCE OF THOSE PROPERTIES AS WELL. THAT'S A TEXT DOT SEEING CORRECT. AND HOW DO WE GET THOSE TYPE OF THINGS? BECAUSE I PUT THOSE REQUESTS IN AND I JUST DON'T KNOW HOW TO PURSUE IT. THERE'S A COUPLE OF SPOTS DOWN 67. THIS WAS A WHILE AGO. SO FOR THE MOWING AGAIN, THIS IS ALL THE FULL RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH TEXDOT. SO GENERALLY, I WILL READ IT INTO THE RECORD HERE, AND THEN WE'LL FOLLOW UP. BUT THE TEXDOT WE THEY REIMBURSE US FOR FOUR MORE CYCLES ALONG RIGHT OF WAY AND 18 LITTER CYCLES. WE DO, WE SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH ONE MORE, ONE ADDITIONAL CYCLE. SO WE DO FIVE MORE CYCLES BETWEEN MARCH AND NOVEMBER, AND WE DO 22 LITTER CYCLES ALONG THAT RIGHT OF WAY. AND THEN FOR THE CITY RIGHT OF WAY ON THE CITY'S RIGHT OF WAY. WE DO 18 MORE. MORE AND LITTER CYCLES. AND WE DO ADDITIONAL 13 CYCLES OF LITTER. WITHOUT MOWING. SO WE WILL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. AND AS FAR AS THE, YOU KNOW. STRUCTURAL REPAIRS OR SOMETHING ON THE TEXTILE FACILITIES, THE BEST THING TO DO IS LET US KNOW, HAVE SOMEONE FROM YOUR OFFICE EMAIL US ONE OF OUR COORDINATORS THAT COORDINATES THE MCC AND THEN WE'LL COMMUNICATE THAT WITH THE TEXTILE AREA OFFICE FOR THEIR MAINTENANCE. OKAY. YEAH. AND THERE'S A COUPLE OF THEM. BUT AGAIN, I APPRECIATE ALL THE WORK THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN DOING. YOU HAVE BEEN VERY RESPONSIVE. BUT I THINK AND I THINK COUNCILMAN BLAIR MENTIONED IT TOO, WHEN IT COMES TO STUFF THAT TXDOT IS RESPONSIBLE FOR, THAT TYPICALLY SEEMS TO SEEMS TO BE SOME SORT OF A BUREAUCRACY OF DELAYS OF SOME SORT. WELL, I JUST ALSO, I MEAN, JUST TO IN DEFENSE OF TEXTILE A LITTLE BIT IN THE CITY IS THERE ARE SOME LOCATIONS WHERE WE HAVE AGREEMENTS WITH THEM [02:35:04] THAT WERE MADE 50 YEARS AGO, 30 YEARS AGO THAT, YOU KNOW, WE, I DON'T HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR THEM, BUT THEY ARE WHAT THEY ARE. FOR EXAMPLE, ON GARLAND ROAD THE SECTION SAY FROM THE 3G TO BUCKNER IS WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PAVEMENT, EVEN THOUGH THAT THE ROADWAY IS ON TEXTILE RIGHT AWAY FROM BUCKNER TO 635. TEXTILE IS FULLY RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. NOW, WHY AND HOW THIS THING HAPPENED, I DON'T KNOW. SO ALL TO SAY IS WE HAVE TO BE FOR CASE BY CASE SITUATION TO UNDERSTAND WHO IS RESPONSIBLE. BUT GENERALLY WE'LL COORDINATE WITH TXDOT AND THEY HAVE BEEN GOOD TO WORK WITH. PERFECT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS BLAIR, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. REAL QUICKLY, HOW DO YOU GRADE STREETS AND ALLEYS AND THEN PRIORITIZE THEM THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY THAT SAYS, THIS IS WHO'S GETTING DONE THIS YEAR? WHO'S GETTING DONE NEXT YEAR? I KNOW SOME OF IT'S BOND MONEY. IF IT'S RECONSTRUCTION OPPOSED TO TO REPAIRING, WHICH IS IN GENERAL FUND. HOW DO YOU DO ALL THAT GRADING? SO THE I'M ASSUMING THE QUESTION TO JUST TO FOR CLARITY, I'M REPHRASING THE QUESTION. THE QUESTION IS ABOUT HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE WHICH ROADWAYS GET WHAT TREATMENT. THAT WOULD BE ACCURATE. OKAY. SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM IS THE BASIS OF THE DECISIONS ON THE PRIORITIZATION. SO THE INFRASTRUCTURE MANAGEMENT PROGRAM, THE WAY I'M GOING TO SIMPLIFY IT, THE WAY THEY DO IT IS WE'LL REDO IT IS WE HIRE A CONSULTANT, THEY GO MAP OUT THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY THROUGH USING WHAT WE CALL LIDAR. WE COLLECT THE DATA ON THE CONDITIONS OF THE ROADWAYS. AND THEN WE RUN IT THROUGH A SOFTWARE PROGRAM THAT COMES. THAT BASICALLY SPITS OUT A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX. AND THEN WHEN THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX IS 100 IS THE BEST AND ZERO IS TOTALLY FAILED AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN. AND THEN WE COMPARE THE PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX WITH THE NEEDS INVENTORY TO SEE BASICALLY WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT PEOPLE ARE ASKING, AND SO ON, AND WE MATCH THEM. AND THEN WHEN WE GO TO THE BOND WE DO HAVE AS PART THE AS PART OF THE BOND SELECTION IS THIS IS THE CRITERIA THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE USING. AND THIS IS WHY WE HAVE THE BOND TASK FORCE AND WE HAVE ALL THESE PUBLIC MEETINGS FOR PEOPLE TO CHIME IN, IF YOU WILL, ON WHAT THE CRITERIA THAT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR THE BOND. AND THIS IS HOW THE BOND ENDS UP WITH THE LISTING OF THE PROJECTS, AS WELL AS NOT ONLY ROADWAYS, BUT TRAFFIC SIGNALS THAT ARE WARRANTED, ALLEYS AND SO ON. AND OBVIOUSLY, THERE IS A CUT OFF POINT WHEREBY YOU'RE LIMITED ON THE FUNDING. SO FOR THIS YEAR, I MEAN, FOR THE 2024 BOND, IT WAS 521 MILLION. AND THAT WAS THE CUT OFF BASICALLY OF THE PROJECTS ACROSS THE CITIES. AND THERE ARE SOME PROJECTS WHERE I CALL THEM STRATEGIC PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS. FOR EXAMPLE, IN YOUR AREA, DANIEL DALE IS ONE OF MY NUMBER ONE STRATEGIC PROJECTS FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS BECAUSE IT SERVES THE INLAND PORT AND IT SERVES THE ALL THE DISTRIBUTION WAREHOUSES IN THAT AREA. AND THIS IS AGAIN, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT FOR THE CITY. SO EXAMPLES OF THESE ROADWAYS ARE WE HAVE THEM AS STRATEGIC ROADWAYS FOR THE CITY. WELL, ON THAT SAME LINE I HAVE I20. I20 GOES FROM THE WEST TO THE EAST IN MY DISTRICT. AND I KNOW WE SHARE THAT WITH THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THAT WITH TXDOT. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE BRIDGES AND THE CONDITIONS OF THOSE BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES. BUT WE ALSO PUT IN FENCING ON LOCATIONS THAT HAVE A LOT OF OUR UNHOUSED RESIDENTS IN INHABITING, HOW DO WE FUND THAT AND HOW DO WE MAINTAIN THAT? AND IS THERE A LINE ITEM IN THE BUDGET FOR THAT? OR IS THAT A TXDOT IN DALLAS JOINT EFFORT? SO I'LL ASK I'LL ANSWER IT THIS WAY. SO COUNCIL PUT IN A ONE TIME $1 MILLION FUNDING, I THINK IN THE PREVIOUS BUDGET, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN FOR, FENCING AND THE FENCING CONTRACT IS MANAGED BY THE EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE OFFICE, SO WE COORDINATE WITH THEM. ANY FENCING THAT IS TO BE DEPLOYED ANYWHERE, IT IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF THE CITY OF [02:40:03] DALLAS. EVEN IF IT IS ON TEXTILE RIGHT OF WAY OR NT A RIGHT OF WAY. AND WE'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE MAINTENANCE. SO ONCE, YOU KNOW, AGAIN THAT FUNDING RUNS OUT, WE'RE PRETTY MUCH DONE. SO DO WE HAVE A, DO WE HAVE ANY QUALITY THAT WE ARE THAT WE SAY WE NEED? I KNOW WE HAVE SOME PLACES THAT THEY WANT TO INSTALL CHAIN LINK FENCING WHERE WE WOULD PREFER SOMETHING MORE DURABLE. IS THERE ANY MECHANISM TO MANAGE THAT? THERE IS. WE'RE TRYING TO PRIORITIZE IT BASED ON THE LOCATION AND WHAT IT SYMBOLIZES BECAUSE THE. FOR EXAMPLE, THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE IS MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE AND REQUIRES MUCH MORE MAINTENANCE COST, IF YOU WILL, THAN THE REGULAR CHAIN LINK FENCE. AND FOR SOME REASON, HONESTLY IT SEEMS LIKE PEOPLE LIKE TO RUN INTO THE WROUGHT IRON FENCE AND THE CHAIN LINK FENCE. SO MAYBE IT HAS A SIGN HIT ME, HIT ME. MAYBE, MAYBE I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THEY IT'S TOO ATTRACTIVE FOR THEM OR SOMETHING. I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, LET ME CHANGE THE TOPIC TO QUALITY CONTROL UP. HAMPTON YOU RECENTLY CAME IN AND COMPLETELY RE RESURFACED IT. NO, NO, YOU DIDN'T RESURFACE. YOU REBUILT IT. AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN NOW WE SEE EVERYBODY TEARING IT UP, BUT THEY NEVER FIX IT. BACK TO THE QUALITY IN WHICH YOU IN WHICH YOU REALLY DID THE WORK. RIGHT NOW WE'RE IN THE SAME PROCESS. THIS IS LIKE THE SECOND TIME SINCE YOU. WE. THE CITY REBUILT IT. THAT SOMEONE IS TEARING IT UP. HOW DO WE MAKE. MAKE SURE THAT WHOEVER TEARS IT UP IS GOING TO GIVE US THE SAME QUALITY OF WORK. AND WHERE IS THE QUALITY CONTROL BUILT INTO YOUR PROCESS AND YOUR BUDGETING? SO, SO BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES YOU'LL GET BLACKTOP ON TOP OF CONCRETE AND YOU THINK IT'S COMPLETE BECAUSE YOU'LL GET A SERVICE REQUEST THAT SAYS IT'S COMPLETE, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S SLOPPY WORK. HOW DO, HOW DO WE BUDGET FOR THAT? SO FROM A, FROM A RULES PERSPECTIVE, THE ORDINANCES IN PLACE AND ALL THE REPAIR MANUALS IN PLACE AND SO ON AND REFERENCES HOW TO REPAIR AND PATCH THESE ROADWAYS. SO THAT IS IN PLACE. THE TWO THINGS THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER THAT WE NEED TO DO A BETTER JOB INTERNALLY IS NUMBER ONE IS HAVE A, AN IMPROVED DATABASE WHEREBY IT TRIGGERS THE ALERT EVERY YEAR FOR US TO CONTINUE TO GO INSPECT THE LOCATION, BECAUSE THE CITY ORDINANCE CLEARLY STATES THAT WHEN YOU OPEN CUT THE ROADWAY AND YOU PATCH IT, YOU'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT GENERALLY FOR FIVE YEARS. SO A LOT OF TIMES, BECAUSE OF PERSONNEL TURNOVER AND NOT HAVING THE SYSTEM, WE'RE NOT GOING BACK AND CHECKING IT. AND THEN NUMBER TWO IS WE'RE DOING A MUCH BETTER JOB NOW IN INSPECTING THE LOCATIONS AND MAKING SURE THAT ARE BEING DONE CORRECTLY. SO HAVING SAID THAT AGAIN, A LOT OF TIMES UNTIL THEY GET TO THE POINT WHERE THEY'RE READY TO DO THE PATCH, THEY DO A TEMPORARY ASPHALT PATCH IN THE CONCRETE AREA TO KEEP IT AS A HARD SURFACE UNTIL THEY GET BACK INTO IT AND REPAIR IT. THEY DON'T NORMALLY COME BACK. I ALSO HAVE A SPECIAL NEEDS. I'M A SPECIAL NEEDS DISTRICT BECAUSE I HAVE THE INLAND PORT AND TRUCKS DO A LOT OF DAMAGE THAT CARS DON'T DO. YOU DESIGN STREETS BASED ON WHAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE STREET, AS OPPOSED TO WHAT ACTUALLY GOES ON THE STREETS? BECAUSE WE CAN'T CONTROL WHERE THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES GO? HOW DO WE PRIORITIZE AND BUDGET SO THAT THOSE TYPE OF ITEMS CAN BE FUNDED APPROPRIATELY AND WE GET THE RIGHT TYPE OF RESOURCE. SO CREDIT TO OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA, WE HAVE, AND I HAVE ADVOCATED THAT THE AS PART OF THE NEW FEDERAL HIGHWAY BILL OR THE USDOT BILL UNDER FEDERAL HIGHWAY, THAT CITIES BE DIRECT RECIPIENTS OF FUNDING FOR AREAS WHERE THAT ARE DESIGNATED AS FREIGHT CORRIDORS, BECAUSE OUR ROADWAYS ARE TAKING A BEATING. AND MOST OF THESE ROADWAYS WERE CONSTRUCTED BEFORE THE WAREHOUSES AND THE DATA CENTERS WERE THERE. SO WHAT'S HAPPENING IN BECKLEY, MEADE, MOUNTAIN CREEK AND ALL THESE PLACES. THESE ROADWAYS ARE TAKING A BEATING. THEY NEVER DESIGNED FOR THAT TYPE OF TRUCK TRAFFIC. AND THEREFORE, I THINK IT'S A BIGGER CONVERSATION WITH THE LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION. HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET THAT AS FAR AS WHAT I'M DOING NOW. SO ANY ROADWAY IN THAT AREA, WE'RE ACTUALLY DOING THE PAVEMENT DESIGN AND WE'RE NOT GOING FOR OUR CODE STANDARD CITY OF DALLAS DESIGN. [02:45:04] AND CASE IN POINT, FOR EXAMPLE NOW THAT ROSS AVENUE IS A HEAVY MOVEMENT ROADWAY AND ROADWAY IS, IS DETERIORATING. SO WE ACTUALLY DID THE PAVEMENT DESIGN ON IT. AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A MUCH MORE ROBUST SECTION FOR THAT. AND CERTAINLY IT'S GOING TO BE IN YOUR AREA. WELL, I'M GOING TO TALK WITH MCRN YOU WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE FENCING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU, MR. BAZALDUA. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES AGAIN FOR THE PUBLIC. WE ARE ON BRIEFING ITEM A FROM THIS MORNING. THANK YOU MAYOR. THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE YOU ALL SOME KUDOS. WE STARTED A PROGRAM IN DISTRICT SEVEN WITH THE SIDEWALK REPAIR PROGRAM TO COVER THE 5050, THE RESIDENCE PORTION. AND YOU ALL HAVE REALLY MADE THE EXECUTION OF THIS ONE TO BE PROUD OF. AND WE'RE LOOKING AT HOW WE CAN PUT MORE OF OUR DISCRETIONARY DOLLARS TO IT. IT'S MADE SOME HUGE TANGIBLE CHANGE IN DISTRICT SEVEN, A BIG HIT. SO THANK YOU ALL. I WANTED TO ASK IF THERE IS ANY DOLLARS SPECIFICALLY ALLOCATED TOWARDS ALLEY IMPROVEMENTS. AND I DON'T MEAN JUST IN IMPROVING THE ALLEYS, BUT SPECIFICALLY IN SOUTH DALLAS AND THROUGHOUT SOUTHERN DALLAS. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES WHERE THE ALLEYS ARE NOT UTILIZED AND THEY END UP BECOMING DUMPING GROUNDS FOR ILLEGAL DUMPING. THEY BECOME HOTSPOTS FOR ENCAMPMENT ENCAMPMENTS TO POP UP. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF UNFORTUNATE ISSUES WITH THE ALLEYS SPECIFICALLY. I WILL TELL YOU THAT I KNOW THAT IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM, BUT ONE THING THAT HAS MADE A TREMENDOUS DIFFERENCE IN THAT SAME SITUATION IN OTHER AREAS OF THE DISTRICT WAS THE ALLEY TO TRAIL CONVERSION PROGRAM. I KNOW THAT THAT WAS A PILOT AND I HADN'T SEEN IT COME BACK. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE IT TO BE A MUCH MORE FEASIBLE SOLUTION THAN HAVING TO PAVE THESE UNIMPROVED SURFACES AND HAVING TO FIND OUT FUNDING FOR A MUCH HIGHER COST CONSTRUCTION. SO I'M JUST CURIOUS IF THERE'S ANY FLEXIBILITY THERE, IF YOU ALL HAVE ANY RESOURCES ALLOCATED TO THAT, BECAUSE THIS HAS BECOME A HABITUAL PROBLEM IN SOUTHERN DALLAS. WELL, I THINK IN MY OPINION, THIS IS MORE OF A CONVERSATION THAT WE NEED TO HAVE WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. ALL OF US AT THE AT THE TABLE BECAUSE OF THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS THAT GOES WITH IT. I MEAN, WHETHER IT BE ON THE ENFORCEMENTS, WHETHER IT BE ON THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, WHETHER IT BE IN THE TRANSPORTATION COMPONENT. SO IT'S WORTH, IN MY OPINION, IT'S WORTH HAVING A CONVERSATION WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND SEE WHAT ELSE CAN BE DONE. TO DO THAT. NOW, AS FAR AS THE THE ALLEY TO TRAIL KIND OF CONVERSION, I THINK THAT WAS A ONE TIME THAT WAS A PROGRAM SOME, I THINK 5 OR 7 YEARS AGO OR TEN YEARS AGO, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I REMEMBER THAT LONG. I MEAN, I, I MEAN, I WAS GOOGLING IT AND I FOUND A PRESENTATION ABOUT FOUR YEARS AGO. IT WAS IT WAS AFTER THE SECOND YEAR OF ARPA DOLLARS. SO SOMETHING SOMETHING LIKE THAT. I MEAN, SO IT WAS A AT ONE POINT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME UP THAT IS A CONCERN IS THE FACT THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO PUT A TRAIL THERE, FOR EXAMPLE, AND USE THAT AREA. AS FOR THAT PURPOSE, WE'VE HAD ALSO COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS SAYING, NOW I HAVE STRANGERS IN MY BACKYARD AND IN MY TRAIL. SO THEN HOW DO YOU HANDLE THAT SITUATION? SO LIKE I SAID, THIS IS A CONVERSATION WORTH HAVING WITH OUR OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND LET'S SEE, YOU KNOW, IF THERE IS SOMETHING THAT CAN BE CONSIDERED, I AGREE. I JUST HOPE THAT THE, THE CONVERSATION ISN'T SURROUNDED BY AND KIND OF HAMSTRUNG BY THE NEED FOR, FOR DOLLARS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK ANY SOLUTION THAT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A SUBSTANTIAL FUNDING IS GOING TO BE ACCOMPLISHED IN ANY TIME SOON WITHOUT A BOND PROGRAM IN THIS REGARD. SO ONE OF THE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS, I THINK, THAT WE SHOULD BE EXPLORING IS IN MANY OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS WHERE THE ALLEYS ARE NOT UTILIZED WHY WE ARE NOT ABANDONING THEM. AND I SAY THAT IN, IN ALL SERIOUSNESS RIGHT NOW WE HAVE PASSED THE BURDEN ONTO OUR RESIDENTS. AND IF ANYTHING TAKES PLACE IN THOSE ALLEY WAYS AND BEHIND THEIR HOMES, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR IT. AND SO A LOT OF THESE ISSUES THAT I JUST BROUGHT UP THAT HAPPEN ON A DAY TO DAY, WEEK TO WEEK BASIS IN SOUTH DALLAS, [02:50:05] IT'S, IT'S A PROBLEM THAT THEY CAN'T SOLVE. AND WE'RE BEING PUNITIVE TO THE RESIDENTS AND THERE'S NOTHING THAT THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT. SO IT'S BEEN AN ONGOING ISSUE. IT'S BEEN A VICIOUS CYCLE. WE HAVEN'T FOUND A GOOD SOLUTION OTHER THAN EITHER GETTING THESE THOROUGHFARES CONSTRUCTED OR AGAIN, LIGHTING IT UP. I MEAN, I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE MEANING ON THE. BUT I'LL TELL YOU THAT I'VE HAD ON ANY OF THE TRAIL CONVERSIONS. IT'S IT'S OPPOSITE, QUITE FRANKLY. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD PEOPLE THAT HAVE COME, BUT IT'S EASIER BECAUSE WE HAVE LIGHTING NOW. THEY'RE IT'S EASIER FOR THE RESIDENTS THEMSELVES TO ACCESS THESE SPACES WHENEVER THEY FEEL THAT SOMETHING'S HAPPENING. I MEAN, WE'VE, WE'VE HAD STRUCTURES IN HOMES BE CAUGHT ON FIRE BECAUSE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE BACKYARDS, ETC., BUT WE HAVE NO SOLUTION TO GIVE THEM OTHER THAN TELLING THEM THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE. EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE TECHNICALLY NOT RESPONSIBLE, IT WOULD BE, IT WOULD BE MUCH GREATER IF RESIDENTS COULD WORK TOGETHER AND MOVE THEIR FENCE LINE BACK TO THAT HALFWAY MARK AND NOT ALLOW FOR THESE ALLEYWAYS THAT AREN'T BEING UTILIZED TO CAUSE ISSUES IN THE COMMUNITIES. AND I KNOW THAT WE HAVE SOMETHING ON THE BOOKS TO MEET WITH YOU. DEV AND TEAM, I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE IS ANYTHING, BECAUSE THIS IS A LARGER POLICY DISCUSSION. BUT IF THERE'S A FISCAL NOTE ASSOCIATED WITH IT, THAT IT'S ONE THAT WE ARE AT LEAST CONSIDERING SO THAT WE'RE NOT BOUND TO WAIT UNTIL THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR BEFORE WE DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT. YEAH. WELL, THANK YOU FOR THE FOR THE COMMENT. AND I JUST TOOK A QUICK LOOK AND IT WAS 2022 WAS, WAS WHEN WE STARTED LOOKING AT THIS PROGRAM. AND, AND OBVIOUSLY, AS GUS MENTIONED, THIS IS NOT JUST A ONE DEPARTMENT SOLUTION. WE WANT TO COLLABORATE WITH THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND AND LOOK AT THINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE INNOVATIVE. OBVIOUSLY THE AMOUNT OF IMPERVIOUS PAVEMENT IS IMPORTANT NOT JUST FOR, FOR STREETS, BUT FOR DRAINAGE AND OTHER THINGS. AND SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK, I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK IT'S A, IT'S A BUDGET. NO, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THAT SHOULD BE CONTINUED TO BE EXPLORED. AND WE'LL BE COMMITTED TO GOING BACK AND LOOKING AT THE RESULTS OF THE PILOT, AND BE PREPARED TO TALK ABOUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO BRING THAT FORWARD. AND WE'RE ALREADY STARTING TO THINK THROUGH THE 2029 BOND PROGRAM. SO THIS MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE INCORPORATE SOMETHING INTO THAT ALSO. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR BRINGING THAT TO OUR ATTENTION AND LOOKING AT AT WAYS TO CONTINUE TO MAXIMIZE THE USE OF OUR DOLLARS IN THE RIGHT WAY. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I WILL SAY THAT I AM APPRECIATIVE OF Y'ALL'S WORK. I THINK THAT PEOPLE ARE SEEING TANGIBLE CHANGE. I WANT US TO KEEP ON THAT LINE. I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH WHAT THIS POTENTIAL BOND PASSING IN NOVEMBER WOULD DO TO THE PROGRESS THAT WE'RE MAKING. AND I ASK THAT YOU ALL DO WHAT YOU CAN TO MAKE IT AS MINIMAL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MAYOR CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WELL, I'M SORT OF HAVING FLASHBACKS BECAUSE IN 2022, WHEN WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SPENDING ARPA DOLLARS FOR WHAT I THINK IS POSSIBLY THE WORST USE OF FUNDS WE HAD, WHICH IS THE ALLEY TO TRAILS PROGRAM THAT DIDN'T ACTUALLY CONNECT THOSE ALLEYS. THEY WERE JUST DISCONNECTED ALLEYS. THIS EXACT CONVERSATION HAPPENED AND I SAID, WHY DON'T WE JUST ABANDON THE ALLEY, PULL UP THE CONCRETE THAT'S ALL BROKEN UP AND REBUILD THE FENCE FOR THE PEOPLE. LET THE NEIGHBORS SPLIT IT HALF AND HALF, OR LET ONE OF THEM TAKE IT, SEE WHO WANTS IT. AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SAID WE COULDN'T DO THIS. BUT WHEN YOU START TALKING ABOUT $600,000 A LANE MILE TO REPAIR AN ALLEY THAT ISN'T EVEN BEING USED FOR SANITATION, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING. AND WE'RE CONTINUING TO ALLOW NEW ALLEYS TO BE BUILT THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO MAINTAIN. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, WE SOMETIMES TALK ABOUT WHAT THE DEFINITION OF INSANITY IS, BUT THIS IS ACTUALLY BEYOND THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW, FOUR YEARS LATER, GLAD WE'RE FINALLY COMING BACK TO THIS CONVERSATION, BUT WE CAN'T ACT LIKE THIS HASN'T BEEN DISCUSSED BEFORE, BECAUSE ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS GO BACK AND ACTUALLY WATCH THAT MEETING WHERE IT WAS THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED. AND I'M CERTAIN I VOTED AGAINST USING FUNDS TO DO A DISCONNECT ALLEY TO TRAIL PROGRAM, WHICH AGAIN, IS JUST A SINGLE STREET HERE AND THEN A SINGLE STREET THERE, BUT THEY DON'T ACTUALLY CONNECT. AND WE DIDN'T EVEN ASK THE RESIDENTS IF THEY WANTED LIGHTING BEHIND THEIR HOUSE, LET ALONE PEOPLE WALKING BEHIND THEIR HOUSES. SO I HOPE THAT YOU DO SOMETHING WITH THAT AND MAKE A PROPOSAL FOR ANY ALLEY IN THE CITY THAT WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY USING. [02:55:08] NOW, SOME OF THEM STILL HAVE UTILITIES IN THEM, AND THE UTILITIES WILL HAVE TO STILL BE ABLE TO GAIN ACCESS. I MEAN, THAT'S THEIR RIGHT. AND IT MAY NOT ALWAYS BE OUR RIGHT OF WAY, EVEN IF WE PAVED IT. SO LIKE IT ACTUALLY NEEDS MORE RESEARCH. BUT THIS IS THE LONG TERM STABILITY THAT WE SHOULD BE TALKING ABOUT. I'M A LITTLE BIT SURPRISED THIS ENTIRE CONVERSATION HAS BEEN ABOUT PEOPLE'S DISTRICTS. I THOUGHT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT CITYWIDE BUDGETING, BUT IN THIS CASE, THERE'S ALLEYS ALL OVER THE CITY, AND THEY ARE A HUGE FINANCIAL RISK FOR THE CITY BECAUSE WE KNOW WE CAN'T EVEN MAINTAIN WHAT WE HAVE TODAY. AND IT'S ONLY DETERIORATING. AND SINCE SO MANY ARE IN BAD SHAPE TO TO YOUR POINT EARLIER, GUS, THERE'S JUST WATER GOING IN ON ALL THOSE CRACKS AND ALL THAT DISRUPTED PAVEMENT. AND SO I KNOW WHY SANITATION AND THE CITY MANAGER KEEP TRYING TO FORCE OUT OF THE ALLEY AND ONTO THE CURB BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY FOR THE ALLEYS. BUT WE DID MAKE A PROMISE WHEN WE BUILT THEM, SO ONES THAT WE CAN GET RID OF BY ALLOWING PEOPLE TO HAVE MORE LAND. I THINK WE SHOULD. IS YOUR TIME THAT YOU HAVE ONE MORE ROUND? CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK THE ALLEY TO TRAIL CONVERSIONS WERE GREAT IN THE AREAS THAT I SAW THEM BEING IMPLEMENTED. THEY ACTUALLY CONNECTED TO PARKS. THEY WERE USED BY OR USED BY SCHOOL CHILDREN TO SAFELY GET FROM THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD TO SCHOOLS. AND I DO THINK YOU GUYS DID A REALLY GOOD JOB OF GOING A NEIGHBOR TO NEIGHBOR, LETTING THEM KNOW ABOUT THOSE IMPACTS. SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE CONTINUED. AT THE SAME TIME, THOUGH, AS COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA SAID, THE ISSUES THAT HAPPEN IN ALLEYS THAT ARE NOT USED BY THE CITY, WE HAVE SERIOUS ISSUES AND THERE'S FIRES THAT HAVE BEEN STARTED, ENCAMPMENTS THAT ARE THERE AND THAT OBLIGATION IS UNFORTUNATELY PASSED ON TO THE HOMEOWNER, EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T PUT THE DEBRIS THERE, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE NOT THE ONES WHO ARE CAUSING BAD ELEMENTS TO HAPPEN, THEY'RE THE ONES WHO ARE PENALIZED FOR IT. AND SO I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO GET RID OF OUR ALLEYS WHERE THEY'RE NOT NEEDED, AND LET THE HOMEOWNER BEING ABLE TO FENCE THAT OFF FOR THEIR PRIVACY AND FOR THEIR SECURITY. GUS, WHAT IS THE CURRENT PROCESS? IF THERE IS A VEHICLE THAT'S PARKED IN A BIKE LANE, WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO DO? JUST A CITATION. ARE WE ABLE TO TOW THEM? WHAT ARE WE ABLE TO DO? I THINK THE CURRENT ORDINANCE ALLOWS US TO DEFINITELY CITE THE VEHICLE AND THEN WE CAN, I THINK WE CAN ALSO TELL THEM IF WE NEED TO, WE CAN TOW THEM IF THEY'RE WE DON'T HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THEY ACQUIRE 3 OR 4 CITATIONS. IT CAN BE DONE ON THE FIRST CITATION OR ON. THAT DEFINITELY CITATION FOR SURE. I THINK WE I NEED TO GO BACK INTO THE ORDINANCE AND WE'LL FOLLOW UP ON THAT. BUT I THINK IT HAS A SLIGHTLY. IT HAS A PROVISION FOR TOWING. OKAY. AND THEN A QUICK QUESTION ON MAINTENANCE OF BIKE LANES. OBVIOUSLY THERE'S LESS WEAR AND TEAR THAN A ROAD THAT'S TRAVELED BY BUSSES, 18 WHEELERS, CARS, ETC. WHEN WE'RE DOING RECONSTRUCTION OF THE ROADS WHERE THERE'S A TRAVEL LANES AND A BIKE LANE, ARE WE HAVING TO REDO THE ENTIRE AREA OR ARE WE ABLE TO EXCLUDE THE BIKE LANE SINCE IT HAS LESS WEAR AND TEAR? I'M TRYING TO SEE HOW WE CAN BRING DOWN OUR MAINTENANCE OPERATION. GENERALLY SPEAKING, AGAIN, THE. THE ON STREET BIKE FACILITIES ARE ON FORMER LANES THAT WERE USED FOR VEHICULAR. AND MOST OF THEM HAVE SIGNIFICANT ISSUES, WHETHER IT BE IN CRACKS OR OR UNEVEN PAVEMENT AND SO ON. SO WHEN WE'RE DOING THE RECONSTRUCTION, WE'RE HAVING TO RECONSTRUCT THE WHOLE THING AND PUT IT BACK. OKAY. SO I'M JUST SAYING, LET'S SAY IF WE REDO IT AND IT'S A BRAND NEW STREET THAT'S REPAVED, RECONSTRUCTED, IT'S GOING TO NOT HAVE THE POTHOLES DUE TO THE LACK OF HEAVY VEHICLES ON IT. SO IF IT'S RECONSTRUCTED, DO YOU STILL FORECAST THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO REDO THE ENTIRE ROADWAY OR JUST THE IMPACTED AREA? WHEN YOU'RE RECONSTRUCTING AN EXISTING OLD INFRASTRUCTURE WERE RECONSTRUCTED, THE WHOLE THING. OBVIOUSLY IN THE FUTURE ON THE LIFE CYCLE TREATMENT DEFINITELY WILL IT WILL HAVE A LESS REQUIREMENTS ON THE TREATMENT THAN A VEHICULAR PATHWAY. [03:00:04] OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. MAYOR. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS OF OUR ESTEEMED PANEL BEFORE WE BREAK FOR LUNCH AND RECONVENE IN 30 MINUTES OR SO? I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH, GUS AND TEAM. APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. MADAM CITY MANAGER, ARE YOU OKAY WITH US TAKING A 30 MINUTE BREAK HERE FOR LUNCH? YES, SIR. WE APPRECIATE THE BREAK. THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY. ALL RIGHT, THEN WE'LL RECONVENE AT 1 P.M.. EVERYONE. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. I'M TOLD WE HAVE A QUORUM, AND I'M TOLD OUR BROADCAST IS BACK UP. SO, MADAM CITY MANAGER THE FLOOR IS YOURS AGAIN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOUR SECOND AND LAST PRESENTATION FOR TODAY IS A CONTINUATION OF DISCUSSION ABOUT THE FISCAL YEAR 2027 BUDGET. WE HAVE ISSUED A MEMORANDUM AS OF LAST WEEK AND IT WAS DUE TO SEVERAL COMMENTS THAT CAME TO ME DIRECTLY ABOUT SOME CONSIDERATIONS IN LOOKING AT POTENTIAL MODIFICATIONS IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET. AND SO WHAT WE COMMUNICATED IN THE MEMORANDUM LAST WEEK IS THAT WE WANTED TO KIND OF PILOT THIS INITIAL STEP, WHICH WOULD REALLY GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO JUST GET RESPONSES FROM MYSELF AND FROM THE TEAM REGARDING SOME OF THOSE CONCERNS OR REQUESTS THAT WE'VE HEARD THUS FAR. WE ALSO WANT TO GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WALK THROUGH THOSE TODAY. I DO WANT TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE DUE TO OUR TOWN HALL MEETING SCHEDULE THE, THE, THE UPFRONT COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE HAD ON YESTERDAY, THE TEAM HAS BEEN WORKING EXTENSIVELY WEEKENDS AND WE DID NOT GET THIS PRESENTATION IN FRONT OF YOU LAST NIGHT OR BEFORE TODAY. SO I WANT TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THAT AND TO LET YOU KNOW THAT WE DEFINITELY UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF POSTING AND GIVING YOU AMPLE TIME TO REVIEW INFORMATION FROM US. AND TODAY, WE DEFINITELY WANT TO EXTEND THAT APOLOGY DUE TO THE WORKLOAD THAT WE HAVE BEEN CARRYING OVER THESE LAST FEW WEEKS. THAT'S NOT AN EXCUSE. IT'S AN ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND AN APOLOGY. THE TEAM WILL WALK YOU THROUGH AGAIN, THESE ARE SOME CONCERNS AND SOME REQUESTS THAT I HAVE RECEIVED. WE DO KNOW THAT WE WILL HAVE ANOTHER MEMORANDUM OUT TO YOU BY THIS FRIDAY THAT WILL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO THE NORMAL PROCESS. IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL AMENDMENTS THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO HAVE US TO CONSIDER, AND WE WILL THEN FOLLOW THE FORMS AND ALL THE THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST. BUT TODAY IS REALLY A DISCUSSION ABOUT THOSE ITEMS THAT HAVE COME TO ME DIRECTLY WHERE COUNCIL MEMBERS SAID, ARE THESE THINGS THAT WE CAN IDENTIFY A WAY TO DO THEM IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DISTRIBUTED TO YOU. SO AT THIS TIME, I'M GOING TO HAVE THE TEAM WALK THROUGH THOSE REQUESTS AND THE INITIAL RESPONSE FROM ME AND THE TEAM, AND THEN WE'LL TALK ABOUT NEXT STEPS AT THE VERY AT THE VERY END. WITH THAT, I'LL TURN IT OVER TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER, MR. JACK IRELAND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MISS TOLBERT, AND GOOD AFTERNOON. JUST MOVING TO SLIDE TWO AS OVERVIEW, THE CITY MANAGER DID RECOMMEND THE FISCAL YEAR 27 AND FISCAL YEAR 28 BIENNIAL BUDGET TO THE CITY COUNCIL. TUESDAY TWO WEEKS AGO IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE CHARTER, THE FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET IS $5.7 BILLION. THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THAT IS JUST OVER 2 BILLION. AND I REALIZE NOW THAT I NEED TO KEEP SAYING THIS OVER AND OVER BECAUSE I HEAR THINGS IN THE MEDIA. THE BUDGET THAT WE RECOMMENDED WAS BALANCED. THE BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO Y'ALL A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO IS A BALANCED BUDGET WITH NO DEFICIT. OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS, WE'VE CONCLUDED THE 25 CITY COUNCIL HOSTED TOWN HALL MEETINGS WITH I THINK THERE WERE THREE LAST NIGHT. SO WE FINISHED UP ALL OF OUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH. THERE WAS A PUBLIC HEARING BEFORE CITY COUNCIL LATE YESTERDAY AFTERNOON AS WELL. AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO WORK ON ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS THAT YOU'VE ALREADY ASKED FROM TWO WEEKS AGO, AS WELL AS SINCE THEN. AND WE WILL BE GETTING THOSE TO YOU HOPEFULLY BEFORE THE END OF THIS WEEK, GETTING YOU THOSE RESPONSES. MOVING TO SLIDE THREE, AS MISS TOLBERT MENTIONED BEFORE WE PROCEED TO OUR TYPICAL BUDGET AMENDMENT PROCESS, WE WANTED TO LOOK AT LOOK BACK TO THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET AND SEE IF THERE WERE ANYTHING THAT WE NEEDED TO REVISE OR OR MODIFY IN WHAT WAS RECOMMENDED TO YOU TWO WEEKS AGO. WE DO HAVE SOME REVISIONS THAT WE WOULD PUT FORTH TODAY. [03:05:04] THESE ADJUSTMENTS ARE INTENDED TO RESPOND TO SOME OF THE INITIAL FEEDBACK THAT WE'VE HEARD FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS, AND POTENTIALLY IT COULD ALLEVIATE THE NEED FOR SOME BUDGET AMENDMENTS BEING SUBMITTED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS IF THIS MOVES IN THE DIRECTION THAT SOME OF YOU HAVE INDICATED YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. SO WE HAVE SEVEN DIFFERENT REVISIONS, AND WE'LL JUST WALK THROUGH THOSE NEXT SEVEN PAGES. AND THEN WE'LL BE AVAILABLE TO, TO GO TALK BEYOND THAT ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS ON SLIDE FOUR. THE FIRST REQUEST THAT WE GOT WAS WE'VE HEARD THAT WE NEED TO FUND MORE IN DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE ANIMAL CRUELTY INVESTIGATIONS AND SUPPORT. AND THE REQUEST FOR ABOUT $500,000 WAS INDICATED. AND SO AS WE'VE AS STAFF AND WITH THE MANAGER LOOKED AT THIS AND TALKED THROUGH IT. WE THOUGHT AN. APPROPRIATE ADJUSTMENT TO FUND THIS WOULD BE THROUGH THE DALLAS ZOO MANAGEMENT FEE. WE ALREADY. RECOMMENDED SOME REDUCTION, BUT WE WOULD PROPOSE AN ADDITIONAL $500,000 REDUCTION IN THE DALLAS ZOO. MANAGEMENT FEE FOR A TOTAL OF $1.2 MILLION. REDUCTION IN THE UPCOMING BUDGET. THEY WOULD STILL BE RECEIVING $13.7 MILLION OF STIPEND FROM THE CITY. AND ALSO, JUST AS A POINT WE DID INCLUDE THEM IN THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM AND THERE'S $30 MILLION FOR THE ZOO. THEY'RE RECEIVING THAT FUNDING IN THREE TRANCHES. THEY ALREADY GOT $10.6 MILLION. LAST YEAR WHEN WE SOLD BONDS, THERE'S 11.4 MILLION OF BONDS FOR THEM THIS FALL AND 8 MILLION NEXT YEAR. AND THAT ADDS TO THE CITY'S DEBT SERVICE EXPENSE OF ABOUT $2.3 MILLION ANNUALLY OVER 20 YEARS TO PAY THE DEBT ON THAT. AND SO WITH THAT BEING. INCREASED FUNDING TO THE DALLAS ZOO, WE THOUGHT THAT IT MAY BE APPROPRIATE TO. DO A REDUCTION TO THEIR MANAGEMENT FEE IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR. AND WE COULD USE THAT TO. SUPPORT THE DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES ANIMAL CRUELTY INVESTIGATION THAT WE MENTIONED ON SLIDE FIVE. WE'VE ALSO HEARD FROM SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO HAD VOICED CONCERN THAT WE PREVIOUSLY TOOK FUNDING OUT OF THE BUDGET FOR ANY LEGISLATIVE SUPPORT. AND WITH THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION STARTING JUST IN A FEW MONTHS WHAT TYPE OF SUPPORT WOULD WE NEED FOR THAT? AND SO WE'VE INDICATED 300 ZERO ZERO $0 HERE AND A COUPLE OF FUNDING SOURCES THAT WE IDENTIFIED THAT WOULD MAKE THAT POSSIBLE. THERE'S ABOUT $78,000 IN THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT BUDGET. THAT IS FOR A NON-UNIFORM ASSISTANT DIRECTOR POSITION. THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT. IT'S ONLY PARTIALLY FUNDED. SO IT'S NOT EVEN A FULL YEAR FUNDED. SO IT WOULD HAVE TO BE HELD OPEN FOR A WHILE BEFORE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE ABLE TO FILL IT, BECAUSE THEY HAVE DON'T HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDING FOR THAT. BUT IF WE TOOK THAT $78,000 AND ADDED THAT TO FUNDING THAT WE COULD TAKE FROM A CONTRACT THAT WE HAVE WITH ZEN CITY, AND SOME OF YOU MAY BE FAMILIAR WITH THIS CONTRACT. WE'VE USED IT FOR CUSTOMER EXPERIENCE AND SURVEY INSIGHTS AND GATHERED INFORMATION, AND CANCELING THAT CONTRACT WOULD ALLOW US TO FREE UP SOME FUNDS TO PARTNER WITH THIS FUNDING FROM THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT IN ORDER TO FUND THE SOME SUPPORT FOR THE TEXAS LEGISLATIVE SESSION THAT'S UPCOMING. ON SLIDE SIX, ALSO RECEIVED SOME FEEDBACK REGARDING THE CHANGES THAT WE HAD RECOMMENDED IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR LIBRARY. THERE WAS AN ASK TO RESTORE ABOUT $267,000 OF FUNDING IN THE LIBRARY FOR ADULT LEARNING, SPECIFICALLY FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING INSTRUCTION AT PRAIRIE CREEK, PLEASANT GROVE AND HAMPTON, ILLINOIS. BRANCH LIBRARIES TO BE ABLE TO FUND SOMEONE TO HELP COORDINATE ADULT LEARNING VOLUNTEERS, AND THEN TO MANAGE THE GED TESTING THAT'S DONE THROUGH THE CENTRAL LIBRARY. SO AS WE LOOKED AT THAT AND HAD FURTHER CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE RECOMMENDED BUDGET, WE WE ARE NOT RECOMMENDING THAT WE WOULD ADD ANY FUNDING BACK, BUT RATHER THAT THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO UTILIZE THOSE PARTNERS TO LEAD PROGRAMING AND MAKE SPACE AVAILABLE FOR THOSE PARTNERS IN THOSE THREE BRANCHES PRAIRIE CREEK, PLEASANT GROVE AND HAMPTON, ILLINOIS, TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE SOME OF THOSE TYPES OF PROGRAMS, SPECIFICALLY THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING PROGRAMS. THE LAST TWO BULLETS. THE. ADDING ACCESS FOR LOW BARRIER CONVERSATIONS AND VOLUNTEER LED CLASSES AT OUR FLAGSHIP LOCATIONS, AND CONTINUING THE SERVICES OF GED AT OUR CENTRAL LIBRARY. THOSE ARE COUPLE THAT OUR DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY HAS SAID THAT SHE WOULD BE WORKING ON. [03:10:05] SHE WOULD BE TRYING TO FIND WAYS TO FURTHER THOSE INITIATIVES, BUT IT WOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WOULD TAKE HER A LITTLE BIT OF TIME TO GET STOOD UP AND WORK THROUGH THAT. ON SLIDE SEVEN, THE FOURTH REVISION THAT WE WOULD LAY OUT HERE IS TO DEVELOP A PLAN TO CONTINUE OPERATING THE PLEASANT OAKS COMMUNITY POOL FOR NEXT SEASON AT A COST OF ABOUT $100,000. AND SO WITH OUR CONVERSATION WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF PARKS AND RECREATION THEY IDENTIFIED THAT THEY WOULD BE ABLE TO INCREASE SOME OF THEIR FEES AND REVENUES AT THAT LOCATION FOR A TOTAL OF ABOUT $40,000, AND THAT THEY WOULD MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS IN THEIR SECURITY PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THE SYSTEM, FREEING UP ABOUT $60,000. AND TOGETHER THAT WOULD MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR A NEXT SEASON AT PLEASANT OAKS COMMUNITY POOL. ON THE NEXT SLIDE ON SLIDE EIGHT. WE DID RECEIVE SOME FEEDBACK ABOUT RESTORING FUNDING AT THE TRINITY RIVER AUDUBON AND CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE. THE PARK DEPARTMENT, INITIALLY IN THEIR BUDGET, PROPOSED 3% REDUCTIONS FOR THEIR PARTNERS AND STIPENDS. AND THIS WAS THE 3% FOR THESE TWO PARTICULAR PROGRAMS. AND SO THIS REQUEST WAS, COULD WE ADD BACK FOR THOSE TWO SMALLER PROGRAMS? BECAUSE A SMALL CUT TO A SMALL PROGRAM CAN, CAN BE HARD TO HANDLE. AND SO THE RECOMMENDATION WAS TO BRING THAT BACK. AND AGAIN, THAT'S LESS THAN $10,000 ADJUSTMENT COULD BE HANDLED WITHIN THE CHANGES MENTIONED ON THE PREVIOUS PAGE REGARDING PARK AND RECREATION SECURITY PROGRAM THROUGHOUT THEIR SYSTEM. PAGE NINE. THE SIXTH OF THE SEVEN ADJUSTMENTS WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD WAS THE CONSIDERATION OF RESTORING $114,000 FROM A REDUCTION THAT WE TOOK IN THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL. THAT WAS A REDUCTION THAT WAS INCORPORATED INTO THE CITY MANAGER'S RECOMMENDED BUDGET. THERE'S BEEN AN ASK TO LOOK FOR FUNDING TO RESTORE THAT. AND SO WE LAID OUT A COUPLE OF WAYS THAT WE COULD PROVIDE FUNDING FOR THAT IF THE BODY DESIRES. ONE WOULD BE TO COMPLETELY ELIMINATE THAT REMAINING FUNDING UNDER THE ZEN CITY CONTRACT THAT I MENTIONED ON A PREVIOUS PAGE. THERE HAVE BEEN COMMENTS ABOUT ELIMINATING YOUTH COMMISSION TRAVEL 23,000. AND THEN THERE HAD NOT BEEN REDUCTIONS IN THE MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL OFFICE FUNDING. AND I KNOW SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE TALKED ABOUT HAVING EXCESS FUNDING IN THEIR ACCOUNTS, AND THERE MAY BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO REDUCE THERE TO RESTORE THIS IN THE OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL. NEXT PAGE, SLIDE TEN. THE LAST OF THE SEVEN REVISIONS THAT WE WANTED TO BRING FORWARD WAS TO RESTORE THE EVICTION ADVOCACY SUPPORT. AND SO THIS REALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE NOT CONSIDERED A CORE GENERAL FUND FUNCTION. AND BECAUSE THE CORE FUNCTIONS OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT ARE MORE ALONG THE LINES OF HOUSING STABILITY AND HOMELESSNESS REDUCTION, FAIR HOUSING, SENIOR SERVICES, COMMUNITY CENTERS, ETC., AND WE BELIEVE THAT A PRIVATE, PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP WOULD BE MORE SUSTAINABLE RATHER THAN USING THE CITY'S GENERAL FUND FOR THIS. AND CONSIDERING THE FACT THAT DALLAS COUNTY IS ALREADY USING FUNDS FOR EVICTION RELATED LEGAL SERVICES, WE WOULD WANT TO PROMOTE THAT PARTNERSHIP AND WORK WITH DALLAS COUNTY TO PROVIDE THAT. AND SO AS THE MANAGER AND STAFF HAVE LOOKED AT THESE TYPES OF THINGS THAT WE'RE INITIALLY HEARING THESE SEVEN SLIDES JUST KIND OF WALK THROUGH WAYS THAT WE THINK WE EITHER COULD ADDRESS THEM OR WORK IN PARTNERSHIP TO ADDRESS THEM. SO ON SLIDE 11, JUST AS NEXT STEPS TODAY, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, IF YOU WANT TO GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF LOOKING AT EACH OF THESE SEVEN AND TAKING STRAW POLLS ON THEM, WE OBVIOUSLY CAN DO THAT. YOU WOULD NEED TO GO INTO A MEETING AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE TO DO THAT. BUT IF YOU CHOOSE TO, WE CAN DO THAT. IF NOT, WE WILL PICK UP ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS, INCLUDING THESE NEXT WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER THE 2ND. JUST AS A REMINDER, THE MEMORANDUM THAT MISS TOLBERT SPOKE OF THAT WAS SENT OUT OUTLINING THE REMAINING STEPS. ANY AMENDMENTS WE GET BY FRIDAY AT NOON, WE WILL PACKAGE THOSE AND GET THOSE BACK OUT TO Y'ALL FRIDAY EVENING FOR Y'ALL TO HAVE ADEQUATE TIME TO REVIEW THOSE BEFORE CONSIDERING THEM ON SEPTEMBER 2ND. IN ADDITION TO CONSIDERING AMENDMENTS ON SEPTEMBER 2ND, WE ARE REQUIRED TO APPROVE THE BUDGET ORDINANCE IN TWO READINGS. AND SO THE FIRST READING OR THE FIRST APPROVAL IS SCHEDULED FOR SEPTEMBER 2ND, AND THEN ON SEPTEMBER 16TH WOULD BE THE FINAL OR SECOND READING OF THE BUDGET ORDINANCE WHEN WE WOULD PASS THE BUDGET, THE PROPERTY TAX RATE AND SEVERAL OTHER BUDGET RELATED AGENDA ITEMS ON THAT DAY. AND THEN THE NEW FISCAL YEAR BEGINS ON OCTOBER 1ST. [03:15:02] SO MAYOR, THOSE ARE THE COMMENTS THAT WE HAD PREPARED, AND IT'S BACK TO THE MAYOR TO CONSIDER THE PATH FORWARD TODAY. GIVE ME ONE SECOND. I'M TRYING TO THINK ABOUT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS PROCEDURALLY TO BE AS EFFICIENT AS POSSIBLE, WHICH I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER MAKING AN EFFORT TO TRY TO STREAMLINE THIS PROCESS A LITTLE BIT. SO I'M GOING TO DO MY PART IN TERMS OF HOW WE RUN THE MEETING TODAY. SO JUST GIVE ME ONE SECOND TO CHECK WITH THE ATTORNEY. ALL RIGHT. SO THE WAY WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH IT IS SINCE WE HAVE THIS POSTED AS A AS A BRIEFING, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THE DISCUSSION LIKE WE WOULD A NORMAL BRIEFING 531 NORMAL. YOU CAN ASK THE QUESTIONS OF THE PANEL AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. IF WE HAVE A MOTION FOR THAT, WHICH I THINK WE DO, TO ACTUALLY DO AMENDMENTS TO DO, TO DO THE STRAW. VOTING ON THE AMENDMENTS LIKE WE ALWAYS DO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE DIDN'T NEED TO GO INTO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE RIGHT NOW. SO WE'RE NOT IN THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. WE'RE STILL ACTING AS THE FULL COUNCIL IN A BRIEFING MEETING. AND I'LL RECOGNIZE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO ASK QUESTIONS. MR. BAZALDUA RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES FOR THE PUBLIC. WE ARE ON BRIEFING ITEM B. THANK YOU. AND CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS ADDED STEP IN THE PROCESS. I DO THINK THAT IT HELPS STREAMLINE AND GIVES US A BETTER, A BETTER PLACE TO BE WHEN WE DO TAKE UP SOME AMENDMENTS. SO THANK YOU. ALSO, THANK Y'ALL FOR ALL Y'ALL'S WORK. I HOPE THAT YOU ALL ARE GETTING SOME REST SOMEWHERE. ON, I JUST, I'M GOING TO GO DOWN THE LIST. REVISION ONE I THINK IS GREAT. I WOULD I WAS HOPING TO SEE MORE DOLLARS. AND I JUST WANTED TO ASK OUR CITY MANAGER IF THIS WAS WHERE YOU BELIEVE TO BE THE AYE THE FINAL STOP AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE THE WIGGLE ROOM TO ADD TO D, A, S, OR IF YOU BELIEVE THAT THERE'S POTENTIALLY OTHER SOURCE WHERE WE COULD BEEF THAT UP MORE THAN 500 000. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION, AND I DO APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES. WHEN WE PRESENTED THE BUDGET, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF THE DRIVERS THAT WE'VE SEEN OVER THESE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. THAT'S REALLY PUSHING THAT DEPARTMENT TO CONTINUE TO ADDRESS SOMETHING THAT'S CAUSED A LOT OF THE OVER BUDGET COMPONENTS, WHICH IS ANIMAL CRUELTY. AND WE'VE SEEN AN UPTICK IN THE CASES. I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS, EVEN AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL, ABOUT SOME OF THE WAYS THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT. SO IN ADDITION TO THIS FUNDING, IF COUNCIL CHOOSES TO MOVE IN THIS DIRECTION, WE ALSO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY NOW WITH THE DECISION THAT THE BODY MADE ON THE OLD SITE THAT WE WERE USING FOR SPC AYE. I WANT TO SAY IT'S ROUGHLY ABOUT 300,000. I'LL HAVE THE TEAM TO CONFIRM THAT THAT'S FUNDING THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE BUDGET THAT WE WERE USING FOR THE UPKEEP OF THAT SITE THAT WE WILL NO LONGER HAVE TO DO. SO WE WOULD BE ABLE TO THEN HAVE THAT FUNDING BE ABLE TO BE UTILIZED TO SUPPORT AT THE PROGRAM LEVEL, THE THE ANIMAL CRUELTY. SO WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT POTENTIALLY 800 VERSUS JUST THE FIVE. WE ARE GOING TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL SOMETIME IN THE FALL. WE DO HAVE SOME ORDINANCE DISCUSSIONS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT WE BELIEVE ALSO WILL PROVIDE SOME ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO LOOK AT THE OPERATIONS OF THE DEPARTMENT, WHICH COULD GET TO SOME OTHER POTENTIAL SAVINGS. SO OVERALL, I THINK BASED ON THIS AND THAT OTHER 300 OR SO THOUSAND, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL ALLOW FOR US TO ADDRESS ANIMAL CRUELTY EVEN MORE AGGRESSIVELY GOING INTO THE NEXT YEAR, AND THAT THIS FUNDING WOULD DEFINITELY BE ADEQUATE. SO THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YES. THANK YOU. AND IN THE SPIRIT OF EFFICIENCY, MR. MAYOR, I'M TRYING TO KIND OF GO THROUGH AND HAVE MY DISCUSSION FOR THE ITEMS SO THAT WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE TO TAKE UP EACH ITEMS WAY AND EXTEND THIS DISCUSSION TIME. I WILL SAY WITH THIS ON THE REDUCING THE, THE ZOO MANAGEMENT FEE. WE ALL LOVE THE ZOO. WE'RE VERY APPRECIATIVE OF, OF THE WORK THAT THE ZOO DOES AND THE PARTNER THAT THEY ARE WITH THE CITY. AND I, I DON'T WANT THIS TO BE PERCEIVED AS ANY NEGATIVE. [03:20:05] BUT INSTEAD, ONE OF THE PIECES OF FEEDBACK I GAVE CITY MANAGER WHEN I MET WITH HER ORIGINALLY WAS I DIDN'T THINK THAT A UNIFORMED APPROACH TO A 3% CUT ACROSS THE BOARD WAS VERY EQUITABLE, CONSIDERING WE HAD SOME STIPENDS THAT WERE LESS THAN $100,000. AND THIS ONE IN PARTICULAR, THAT WAS UPWARDS OF 15 MILLION. SO THIS WAS NOT MEANT TO PUNISH ANYONE, BUT IT WAS HOPEFULLY MEANT TO BRING SOME EQUITY TO THE APPROACH AND TO, TO BETTER UTILIZE, I THINK, WHAT BETTER SOURCE TO GIVE MORE TO OUR ANIMAL SERVICES THAN FROM OUR BELOVED ANIMALS AT THE DALLAS ZOO. NUMBER TWO IS CITY COUNCIL MEMBER REQUEST FOR THE LEGISLATIVE SESSION. I'LL TELL YOU THAT THIS IS I AM 100% SUPPORTIVE OF THIS. VERY APPRECIATIVE OF YOU FINDING THESE DOLLARS. I HAVE BEEN IN CONTACT WITH PEOPLE IN AUSTIN AND OTHER CITIES, AND I THINK THAT WE ARE VERY FAR BEHIND THE CURVE GOING INTO THIS NEXT LEGISLATIVE SESSION. SO I BELIEVE THIS IS A HUGE PRIORITY. REVISION THREE CITY MANAGER, I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST AND ASK IF IT WAS POSSIBLE, BUT ONE OF THE BRANCHES WAS NOT MENTIONED IN HERE. AND I UNDERSTAND I WASN'T A PART OF A MEMO THAT WAS SENT TO YOU. HOWEVER, WHITE ROCK HILLS LIBRARY, WITH THEIR ADULT LEARNING PROGRAMS, HAVE HAVE BEEN A HUGE SUCCESS FOR THE FAR EAST DALLAS COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE VERY HEAVILY UTILIZED. WE'VE HAD A LOT OF ADVOCACY ABOUT THAT PARTICULAR CUT. IF THERE'S A WAY THAT THIS REVISION COULD ALSO OPEN UP OPPORTUNITY FOR WHITE ROCK HILLS. I WOULD BE APPRECIATIVE IF NOT, IF YOU COULD ADVISE ON WHAT FUNDING WOULD BE NEEDED. REVISION FOR FULLY SUPPORTIVE. I WOULD ASSUME THIS CAME FROM COUNCIL MEMBER FROM MAYOR PRO TEM RESENDEZ AND FULLY SUPPORTIVE. THANK YOU FOR FINDING A SOLUTION FOR THAT CLOSING POOL. NUMBER FIVE. I'M REALLY I, I'M ACTUALLY, I GUESS I WILL ASK A QUESTION WHEN I SEE SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THESE WERE EVEN CUT. THESE WERE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE PARK DEPARTMENT THAT WENT THROUGH THE PARK BOARD, AND THEY TOOK 3% REDUCTIONS ACROSS THEIR PARTNERS AND STIPENDS. THE AUDUBON CENTER, THE CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE, THE ARBORETUM AND THE ZOO. AND THAT'S WHAT WENT THROUGH THE PARK BOARD AND CAME AS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE PARK DEPARTMENT. THE PARK BOARD TO THE CITY MANAGER. SO THIS, THIS KIND OF GOES BACK TO THE UNIFORMED APPROACH. I THINK THAT THIS COULD HAVE BEEN DONE. I GUESS I DON'T KNOW WHERE OUR PARKS DEPARTMENT IS. THIS IS MORE FEEDBACK FOR, FOR YOU ALL THAN OUR CITY MANAGER, BUT A UNIFORMED PERCENTAGE ACROSS THE BOARD DOESN'T NECESSARILY SCREAM AN EQUITABLE OUTCOME. AND WHEN I SEE CERTAIN OF OUR PARTNERS BEING KIND OF NICKEL AND DIMED FOR $6,000, FOR INSTANCE, I KNOW THAT THAT'S BEYOND A ROUNDING ERROR IN Y'ALL'S OVERALL BUDGET. AND I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE MORE OF A GRANULAR APPROACH TO HOW THIS COULD HAVE BEEN HANDLED WHEN WE HAVE A $15 MILLION STIPEND, AND THEN WE HAVE THESE OTHER STIPENDS INSTEAD OF, I MEAN, THIS ONE'S LITERALLY PRESERVING $3,600. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THIS IS AN EFFECTIVE USE OF THIS PROCESS. CONSIDERING THE SCALE OF OUR BUDGET. SO IF YOU COULD JUST SPEAK TO WHY THIS CAME ABOUT. YES, SIR. RYAN O'CONNOR DALLAS PARKS THANK YOU FOR THE THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENT AND UNDERSTAND THE SENTIMENTS. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THE THE REASON WAS HISTORICALLY, WHEN WE HAVE TAKEN CUTS TO THE PARK SYSTEM, WE HAVE APPLIED THOSE CUTS AMONGST ALL OUR PARTNERS. AND SO I FULLY UNDERSTAND YOUR YOUR POINT AROUND RELATIVELY SMALL AMOUNTS. BUT THAT'S JUST THE WAY THAT WE HAVE DONE IT IN THE PAST. NOT TO SAY THAT WE CAN'T PIVOT AND THINK ABOUT DOING IT DIFFERENTLY IN THE FUTURE, BUT THAT'S THAT'S THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. THANK YOU. I WOULD ENCOURAGE THERE TO BE A LITTLE DIFFERENT THOUGHT GOING INTO THE NEXT BUDGET SEASON, AND I WOULD LOVE TO BE A PART OF THAT DISCUSSION. IF OUR CHAIR OF PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT WOULD LIKE TO BRING UP AND WE CAN DISCUSS THIS IN A MORE ROBUST POLICY DISCUSSION. YES, SIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ON REVISION ONE INCREASING FUNDING IN DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICE FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY AND MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. REDUCED DALLAS ZOO MANAGEMENT FEE BY ADDITIONAL 500,000. I DO NOT SUPPORT IT. I HAVEN'T HAD THOSE DISCUSSIONS, AND I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH OUR ZOO. [03:25:05] I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE SOME THINGS THAT WE WE'RE LOOKING AT TO DO AS FAR AS AMENDING THE BUDGET OR DEALING WITH SOME OF THE BUDGET CUTS DUE TO THE SHORTFALL. BUT HOWEVER, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK WITH THE ZOO AND MY TEAM AND MY COMMUNITY. AND SO THEREFORE I WOULD NOT SUPPORT THIS AND DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW THAT CAME WITHOUT EVEN A CONVERSATION. ALSO LOOKING AT, ALTHOUGH REVISION NUMBER SEVEN RESTORE EVICTION ADVOCACY SUPPORT THAT PROCESS AND I'VE SEEN THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE WITH MARK MELTON AND HOW HE'S HELPED A LOT OF PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FOUR. AND I'VE BEEN RIGHT THERE IN THOSE SETTINGS HELPING FAMILIES. THAT WAS DONE WRONG. AND I THINK THE SUPPORT FROM OUR CITY TO OUR RESIDENTS IN THAT ASPECT IS VERY IMPORTANT. SO I WILL BE DEFINITELY TRYING TO WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ON WHERE WE CAN, WHAT WE CAN DO TO CONTINUE TO SUPPORT OUR FAMILIES WHEN IT COMES TO THIS, I UNDERSTAND THAT IT SAYS PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP MODEL IS MORE SUSTAINABLE. HOWEVER, I BELIEVE IT'S ALSO OUR, OUR JOB TO ASSIST OUR RESIDENTS WHEN NECESSARY. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS A RESOURCES THAT HELP NOT JUST MEMBERS IN DISTRICT FOUR, BUT HELPS A LOT OF MEMBERS IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO I'LL BE WAITING. I'LL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING THESE MORE DISCUSSIONS CONCERNING THIS. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN GRACEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK YOU FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL OF THESE. I WANT TO START ONE. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND ON THE LIBRARY FOR THE ADULT LEARNING PIECE, JUST TRYING TO GET A GRASP. AND I'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS WITH SOME FOLKS IN MY BUDGET MEETINGS AS WELL. THIS IS A FREE SERVICE. WHAT IS THE COST BREAKDOWN FOR THE 266,000 IF IT'S A VOLUNTEER BASED PROGRAM. WHICH MEANS I'M ASSUMING PEOPLE ARE COMING IN TO TEACH THE CLASSES. WHAT IS THE ACTUAL WHAT IS THIS, 266,000. 67,000. WHAT IS THAT GOING TOWARDS? SO THE THE REQUEST WAS MADE FROM COUNCIL MEMBERS TO ADD $267,000 BACK TO FUND FOUR ADDITIONAL POSITIONS OR TO BRING FOUR POSITIONS BACK. SO IT WOULD BE MANAGED COORDINATED WITH STAFF, NOT JUST WITH VOLUNTEERS. THE, THE RECOMMENDATION BACK FROM CITY MANAGEMENT IS TO RELY COMPLETELY ON PARTNERS TO DO THAT AND NOT TO FUND THE $267,000, I GUESS. IS IT JUST IS IT JUST FOR STAFF? YES. SO I'M GOING TO STEP BACK FOR JUST A SECOND. AND THANK YOU TO OUR CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER FOR THAT INITIAL RESPONSE. AND I KNOW I SEE OUR DIRECTOR OF LIBRARY HERE AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE LOOKED AT, BECAUSE THIS IS NOT THE TOTAL, I THINK IT WAS OVER 400 OR SO THOUSAND FOR THE PROGRAM ITSELF. REMEMBER, AS PART OF THE WAY THAT WE HAVE GONE INTO PHASE TWO OF OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING IS THAT EVERY SINGLE PROGRAM, THERE'S A COST ASSOCIATED WITH IT, AS WELL AS THE STAFFING MODEL THAT WE'RE CURRENTLY USING. SO WHEN WE LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS WITHIN THE LIBRARY THAT ARE CURRENTLY ALLOCATED TO SUPPORT THIS PROGRAM, THAT'S THE TOTAL. IT'S OVER 400 OR SO THOUSAND. I THINK IT'S 456. AND SHE'LL GIVE YOU THE EXACT NUMBER FOR 31. THERE WE GO. 431 SO IT'S REALLY ABOUT FOR THE WAY WE'VE PROPOSED THIS, IS THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE OF THE SERVICE. AND IN THESE COMMUNITIES, AND ESPECIALLY THE LIBRARIES THAT HAVE BEEN DESIGNATED WHERE WE'VE SEEN THE THE ABUNDANCE OF THE UTILIZATION TO ALLOW FOR THAT TO CONTINUE, BUT NOT LET IT BE A GENERAL FUND EXPENSE, BECAUSE WE HAVE TWO PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS OF GREATER DALLAS, WHERE THEY'RE ALREADY RECEIVING FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT, AND THEN THE SUB RECIPIENT IS DALLAS COLLEGE, TO WHERE WE CAN USE THEIR FUNDS, STILL PROVIDE THE SERVICE, STILL HAVE IT HOSTED IN THE LIBRARIES, AND THEN INCREASE THE PARTNERSHIPS TO DO SOME OF WHAT WE CALL THE LOW BARRIER COMPONENTS. SO IT'S NOT A IT'S NOT A REMOVEMENT OR A DISCONTINUATION. IT IS CHANGING HOW WE FUND IT AND STILL MAKING IT AVAILABLE. AND I THINK FROM THE MEMORANDUM THAT WE RECEIVED FROM COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS AND FROM OUR MAYOR PRO TEM, [03:30:03] IT WAS REALLY ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THOSE COMMUNITIES WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO ACCESS THOSE SERVICES. IT'S REALLY FOR US CREATING THE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE FUNDING LEVEL. THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. AND SO WE'RE ABLE TO THEN SAVE THAT FUNDING IN THE LIBRARY'S BUDGET. NO, I GET I GET ALL OF THAT. I GUESS I JUST IT'S THE STAFFING, IT'S THE IT'S THE DELIVERY OF THE PROGRAM. OKAY. IT'S NOT 100% VOLUNTEERS. IT'S STAFFING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, STAFFING. IT'S STAFFING WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT TO DELIVER THE PROGRAM. OKAY. AND SO THIS NUMBER THAT'S HERE WOULD BE FOR THE THE LIBRARIES THAT WERE INCLUDED. IF YOU LOOK AT THE NAME, IT'S THE ONES FOR PRAIRIE. IT'S PRAIRIE CREEK, PLEASANT GROVE AND HAMPTON, ILLINOIS. YEAH. I GOT ALL OF THAT. I'M JUST I'M STILL CONFUSED ON THE APPLICATION OF THE 267,000. I KNOW IT'S STAFFING, BUT I GUESS IF IT'S STAFFING, WHAT EXACTLY ARE THEY DOING? BECAUSE AGAIN, IF IT'S VOLUNTEER BASED TO ME, IT WOULD BE NO DIFFERENT THAN THEM COMING TO A CHURCH AND TEACHING IT AT THE CHURCH AND THE CHURCH OPENING UP AND SAYING, HERE YOU GO, HERE'S A CLASSROOM, MAYBE A LITTLE BIT OF OPERATING OVERHEAD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. BUT 267,000, I JUST I CAN'T RECONCILE THAT. YES, I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION. GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL MEMBERS. MONA SHAW, DIRECTOR OF LIBRARIES. THIS IS NOT A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. THIS IS A STAFFED PROGRAM THAT USES VOLUNTEERS, AND IT IS CURRENTLY STAFFED WITH EIGHT POSITIONS. AND THE RESPONSE TO THE MEMO WE RECEIVED WAS THE POSITIONS WE WOULD NEED TO OFFER ONLY AT THOSE THREE LOCATIONS. SO RATHER THAN THE THE SUN SETTING OF THE ENTIRE DEPARTMENT OF EIGHT, THE. IN ORDER TO DO WHAT WAS BEING ASKED, WE WOULD NEED TO RETAIN FIVE OF THOSE POSITIONS. OKAY. AND WHAT DO THEY DO? THEY. WELL, THERE'S, OF COURSE, A MANAGER AND AN OFFICE ASSISTANT WHO MANAGE ALL THE BACK END WORK. BUT THEN WE CURRENTLY HAVE LITERACY INSTRUCTORS AND THEY TEACH CLASSES. THEY TEACH GED CLASSES, THEY TEACH ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING CLASSES, CITIZENSHIP CLASSES TO THE TUNE OF ABOUT 100 CLASSES A WEEK ACROSS THE LIBRARY SYSTEM. OKAY. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. WELL, I WILL BE IN SUPPORT OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO GET THIS RESTORED BECAUSE AGAIN, I GET THE PARTNERSHIPS AND I JUST DON'T. IT'S NOT CLICKING FOR ME. SORRY. AND THEN THE LAST ONE, SLIDE EIGHT. ON, ON THAT ONE PARTICULAR, I CAN SPEAK TO THE CEDAR RIDGE NATURE PRESERVE. WE JUST STARTED MEETING WITH THEM AND UNDERSTANDING KIND OF SOME OF THE RULES IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO IN TERMS OF FUNDRAISING AND WORKING WITH A LOT OF THEM TO TRY TO IDENTIFY REVENUE GENERATING OPPORTUNITIES. AND AT ONE POINT THEY WENT THROUGH TRYING TO, TO YOU KNOW, CREATE SOME ENTRANCE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE RELATIONSHIP THAT THEY HAVE WITH WITH THE COUNTY AND THAT RELATIONSHIP, THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHARGE AN ADMITTANCE FEE. SO BECAUSE OF THAT, THEY WEREN'T ABLE TO KIND OF, THEY DON'T HAVE ANY WAY OF DRAWING ANY REVENUE. SO WE'VE BEEN LOOKING AT DIFFERENT WAYS. SO NOW THAT I HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT THEY CAN AND CANNOT DO, WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER A REVENUE GENERATING MODEL. THIS PARTICULAR PARK HAS ABOUT 600,000 PEOPLE A YEAR COMING AND VISITING, BECAUSE DISTRICT THREE, IF YOU DIDN'T KNOW, IS THE OUTDOOR DESTINATION OF THE CITY. IT'S PLUG. BUT WITH THAT, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE CAN BRING REVENUE INTO THAT 600 000 PEOPLE A YEAR COMING INTO THE DISTRICT, COMING INTO THIS PARTICULAR PARK. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY TO GENERATE REVENUE. SO WE'RE ASKING TO JUST RESTORE THIS SO THEY CAN GIVE US ANOTHER TIME. WE'RE NOT SAYING KEEP IT, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND WAYS NOW THAT WE HAVE CLARITY ON WHAT WE CAN AND CANNOT DO IN TERMS OF REVENUE GENERATORS, WE'RE ASKING IF WE CAN JUST KEEP THIS SO THAT WE CAN GET A PLAN GOING FOR THE NEXT YEARS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS BLAIR, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR PARK AND REC. WHEN? WHEN THESE ITEMS ON, LIKE, ITEM FOUR SAYS REDUCE 60,000 FUNDING FOR PARK AND REC SECURED A PARK AND REC SECURITY PROGRAM. WHAT IS THAT? YES, MA'AM. SO WE SPEND ABOUT 600 000 A YEAR ON OFF DUTY DPD. AND WE USE THEM FOR AQUATIC CENTERS FOR. SOMETIMES WE USE THEM AT REC CENTERS. WE USE THEM AT SOUTHERN STATES AT TIMES. SO IT'S JUST A, IT'S AN EXPENSE THAT WE HAVE USING DPD OFFICERS. SO HOW OFTEN DO. WELL, SO DO YOU KNOW WELL, DO YOU USE THEM AT ALL REC CENTERS? NO, IT'S IT'S KIND OF TARGETED. SO WHEN WE WOULD HAVE BIG EVENTS OR IF THERE WAS AN ISSUE GOING ON. SO IT'S IT'S NOT THEY'RE GOING TO BE HERE THREE HOURS A DAY, EVERY DAY. IT'S REALLY KIND OF ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS. AND HOW MUCH DO YOU SAY YOU SPEND ABOUT 600,000. [03:35:04] AND THIS IS ONLY 10% OF. YES. THAT'S RIGHT. WITH THAT 10%, HOW WOULD THAT 10% IMPACT YOUR. WELL, IT WOULD BE AN IMPACT. SO WE WOULD TRY TO WORK WITH DPD TO SEE IF WE COULD GET SOME ADDITIONAL COVERAGE. THAT WOULD BE THE REQUEST THAT IN THE CONVERSATION THAT WE WOULD HAVE WITH THEM. OKAY. SO WHILE I THANK YOU FOR THAT, I THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT ON THE, THE EVICTION ADVOCACY SUPPORT. CITY MANAGER DID, WE USED TO FUND THIS OUT OF THE CBDG PACKAGE WHEN IT WAS IN. NO, MA'AM. THE ACTUAL REQUEST TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT OUR SUPPORT OF EVICTION ADVOCACY WAS IN SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT WERE HAD WITH THE COUNTY. THE COUNTY, I THINK, PUTS IN, I WANT TO SAY IT'S A LITTLE CLOSE TO A MILLION, MAYBE 1,000,003. I THINK I'M DOING THAT FROM MEMORY. BUT IT WAS REALLY ABOUT A REQUEST. AND SO IN THE BUDGET FOR FY 2526 AFTER GETTING FEEDBACK FROM THE COUNCIL AND IT WAS APPROVED IN THE BUDGET, WE INCLUDED IT. AND THEN WE WENT INTO THE CONSOLIDATION OF THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMUNITY CARE HOUSING. AND WE STARTED LOOKING AT A MODEL THAT I THINK THIS WEEK OR I THINK EARLIER THE WEEK WAS PRESENTED ABOUT DALLAS HOME AND WHAT WE REALLY, REALLY SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON. SO OVER THE COURSE OF THE SUMMER, AS WE STARTED TO LOOK AT WHERE WE NEEDED TO HAVE INVESTMENTS. IT WAS REALLY ABOUT LOOKING AT HOUSING STABILITY CONTINUING TO FOCUS ON FAIR HOUSING AND LOOKING AT THE WAYS THAT WE CAN ENSURE, WHETHER IT'S OUR DIVERSION PROGRAMS, THAT THAT WOULD BE A BETTER USE OF OUR CITY FUNDING AND THAT A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, INCLUDING THE WAY THAT DALLAS COUNTY IS ALREADY SUPPORTING THAT, THAT THIS COULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE COULD MOVE AWAY FROM THE GENERAL FUND. IT'S NOT TO SAY THAT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT EVICTION ADVOCACY IS IMPORTANT, BUT FROM A STANDPOINT OF US PROVIDING THAT LEGAL SUPPORT, AND I'M TRYING TO GET TO TRUE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING, IT'S DIFFICULT. AND SO WE UNDERSTAND YOU KNOW, WHAT'S BEING REQUESTED, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE ARE DEALING WITH A NEW NORMAL WITH FUNDING. AND IF WE CAN BE WORKING ON PARTNERSHIPS AND LEVERAGING WHAT'S OUT THERE, AND IT'S NOT GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO CARRY ON TO THE GENERAL FUND. THAT'S WHY WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING, NOT JUST THIS PARTICULAR PROGRAM. SO WE WANTED TO RESPOND BECAUSE SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE MENTIONED IT. BUT IN THE CURRENT BUDGET THAT THAT PROCUREMENT WAS, WAS CANCELED. AND WE DID NOT RE ADVERTISE FOR IT. AND SO THAT FUNDING WAS NOT CARRIED OVER INTO THE PROPOSED BUDGET FOR 2027. SO WE DID NOT WE DID NOT RECOMMEND THAT IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. I AND I HEAR WHERE, WHERE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM WAS TALKING ABOUT ADVOCACY FOR, FOR THOSE THAT ARE BEING EVICTED. MY DISTRICT HAS ONE OF THE HIGHEST EVICTION RATES. THERE IS IN THE WHOLE ENTIRE CITY, WHICH MEANS THAT ONCE WE HAVE AN EVICTION, THEN WE HAVE A LOT OF TIMES WE HAVE HOMELESSNESS. AND I. I KNOW THERE IS PUBLIC. WE DO HAVE SOME NON-PROFITS THAT THAT HAS PROGRAMS. I KNOW OF ONE IN DISTRICT THREE THAT HAS A PROGRAM. HOW DO IF, IF WE, IF WE SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THIS WITH A NONPROFIT OR THROUGH A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP MODEL, HOW IS THIS SUSTAINABLE? HOW DO WE MONITOR AND MANAGE THE SUSTAINABILITY OF DOING IT THAT WAY? WELL, IT'S BACK TO AND THANK YOU SO MUCH BECAUSE AGAIN, THESE THESE ARE NOT EASY DECISIONS OR CONVERSATIONS FOR YOU ALL. AND I GET IT, I KNOW IT, I UNDERSTAND IT. WE HAVE BEEN WALKING IN THIS WHOLE SPACE ABOUT WHAT ROLE THE CITY SHOULD PLAY IN A LOT OF AREAS. AND SO IT'S, IT'S DIFFICULT TO THEN TALK ABOUT SUSTAINABILITY EVEN THROUGH THE GENERAL FUND BECAUSE OF THE PRESSURES THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE AND WHAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE ASKING US TO FOCUS MORE ON. HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THAT THAT THROUGH THE WAY WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR DALLAS [03:40:04] HOME MODEL THAT THERE COULD BE, AGAIN, POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE SHOULD BE LEVERAGING BECAUSE THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THE WAYS, IN MY OPINION, GOING FORWARD, IF WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FUTURE THAT WE'VE GOT TO DO MORE OF, WE WILL NOT HAVE ALL THE FUNDING TO DO EVERY SINGLE THING THAT IS NEEDED. SO THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO LOOK AT. I KNOW THE COUNTY HAS ALREADY COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING THE PROGRAM. WE DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK IN THAT SPACE OF BEING ABLE TO SUPPORT AS BEST WE CAN. BUT AGAIN, WE ARE MAKING SOME VERY DIFFICULT DECISIONS ABOUT WHAT WE DO AND WHAT WE DON'T DO, AND HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE WORK STILL MOVES FORWARD. SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS, IS THAT WE FOCUS ON CREATING WHAT MIGHT BE MORE OF A PUBLIC PRIVATE MODEL. WE CAN ALWAYS COME BACK TO COUNCIL AND SHARE WHAT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES ARE. WE DO KNOW THAT THERE'S FUNDING THROUGH DALLAS COUNTY CURRENTLY, AND IF COUNCIL WANTS THIS TO BE A CORE SERVICE AND YOU WANT US TO DO IT ON THE GENERAL FUND, WE JUST HAVE TO FIND THE FUNDING TO DO IT. BUT MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE ALLOW FOR A MODEL THAT IS MORE SUSTAINABLE AND NOT A RELIANCE ON THE GENERAL FUND IN ORDER TO MOVE IT FORWARD. I WOULD JUST HATE FOR US TO DO SO, AND WE FIND THAT IT DOES NOT WORK AND HAVE THOSE ON THE STREET. THE LAST THING I'M GOING TO TALK ABOUT IS REVISION NUMBER ONE FOR THE ZOO. AS WE ALL KNOW THAT I. DISTRICT EIGHT HAS A LOT OF OF ANIMAL CRUELTY AND MY ANIMALS HAVE THE HIGHEST COST VALUE. I DO KNOW THAT THE ZOO DOES PARTICIPATE IN SOME OF THE HELP WITH THAT, BUT I DO KNOW THERE IS A MAJOR NEED. AND AS A MEMBER OF THE COMMITTEE FOR THIS, THIS IS A HARD ONE, BUT IT'S ONE THAT I THINK I WILL NEED TO SUPPORT IN ORDER TO. HELP EVERYBODY, HELP HELP THE ANIMALS AND. AND ESPECIALLY IN CRUELTY. BECAUSE WHEN YOU WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT ANIMAL CRUELTY, WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO PAY FOR IT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE ELSE TO COME. THIS HAS TO COME FROM. IT HURTS. IT HURTS A LOT. BUT IT MAY BE SOMETHING THAT I'M JUST GOING TO HAVE TO BE HURT AND GET IT DONE. THANK YOU. MISS BLACKMON, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO ON REVISION ONE, A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. SO I KNOW WE MADE SOME ADJUSTMENTS TO DAS REGARDING ANIMAL CRUELTY. CAN Y'ALL RUN THROUGH THOSE REAL QUICK? AND THEN THE FISCAL NOTE ON IT AND, AND HOW THIS MONEY WILL HELP, WHAT THIS MONEY WILL DO TO THAT PROGRAM IN ORDER TO GET THE OUTCOMES THAT WE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE EXPECTING. GREAT QUESTION. I SEE PAUL COMING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. PAUL RAYMOND, DIRECTOR FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES OVER THESE PAST FEW YEARS IN DEALING WITH THE SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY, THE CAPACITY FOR THOSE ANIMALS HAS INCREASED. THE AVERAGE HAS BEEN ABOUT 2800 THIS YEAR ALONE AS OF THE END OF JUNE, WE SAW 3000. SO WE STILL HAVE THREE MONTHS TO GO. SO WHAT THIS WOULD DO WOULD HELP RIGHTSIZE THE CARE AND MAINTENANCE OF THESE ANIMALS AS IT RELATES TO FORENSICS, MEDICAL CARE AND TREATMENT, AND SOME IN SOME CASES REQUIRE BOARDING. AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE DON'T HAVE CORRALS AT OUR PROPERTY, SO THOSE ANIMALS REQUIRE SPECIFIC EQUINE EVALUATIONS, SUPPORTIVE CARE, AND SOMETIMES SURGERIES. SO THOSE CAN RUN INTO THE THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS PER DAY. AND YOU HAVE TO CARE FOR THE ANIMAL UNTIL THE COURT CASE IS. THESE ARE EVIDENTIARY PROPERTY IN A IN A PROCEEDING THROUGH DPD AND THE DA'S OFFICE. SO WE'RE REQUIRED TO KEEP THOSE ANIMALS UNTIL THE DISPOSITION OF THE CASE. THAT COULD BE ANYWHERE FROM ONE DAY TO 30 PLUS DAYS. GOT IT. OKAY. AND THANK YOU, PAUL. ON THE MANAGEMENT RESPONSE. SO WE, THE. IF WE HAD NOT REDUCED THE MANAGEMENT FEE, IT WAS AT WHAT, 15 MILLION? SO THE CURRENT FOR THE ZOO. YEAH. FOR THE CURRENT YEAR THE MANAGEMENT FEE IS 14. 889326 SO $14.9 MILLION. OKAY. AND AND THEN IT WAS REDUCED TO A TOTAL OF 13. [03:45:01] WELL, IT WAS INITIALLY REDUCED AS PART OF A 3% REDUCTION THAT THEY THEY DID THEN SUBSEQUENTLY, THE PARK DEPARTMENT AGREED TO AN ADDITIONAL REDUCTION OF 250,000, WHICH IS WHAT WE RECOMMENDED IN MISS TOLBERT'S BUDGET. AND THEN THIS ADDITIONAL AMOUNT WOULD BRING THE TOTAL CUT TO THE ZOO TO THE TOTAL REDUCTION TO 1.2 MILLION. I'M SORRY, 1.2.0, $2.0 MILLION. SO WHAT'S THE AMOUNT THEY'RE GOING TO BE GETTING? THEY WOULD BE GETTING 13 SIX. 92. SIX. 45. AND EXPLAIN THIS LAST BULLET POINT WHERE THE 2.3 IS THE DEBT SERVICE. YES, MA'AM. SO. AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THE 14.9. RIGHT. THAT'S ADDITIONALLY ON TOP OF IT. AND OKAY, I'M JUST TRYING TO CLARIFY THAT. RIGHT. SO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 CONTRIBUTION AGAIN, STIPEND IS 14.9. IN ADDITION TO THAT, AS A RESULT OF THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM, THE CITY WILL BE ISSUING IN THREE DIFFERENT TRANCHES $30 MILLION TO SUPPORT THE ZOO. AND OUR AVERAGE DEBT SERVICE COST IS GOING TO BE $2.3 MILLION A YEAR TO REPAY THAT. OKAY. AND THAT IS IN ADDITION TO THE ANNUAL STIPENDS NOW, BUT DO WE PAY THAT ON ALL THE OTHER LIKE IF WE DO SOMETHING AT THE, AT ONE OF OUR ARTS FACILITIES OR THERE'S BEEN DIFFERENT ARRANGEMENTS. THERE'S SOME I BELIEVE THAT HAVE HAD REVENUE USED TO REPAY SOME OF THE DEBTS. IN SOME CASES WE PAY THE DEBT. THERE'S JUST DIFFERENT TYPES OF ARRANGEMENTS THAT HAVE OCCURRED OVER, OVER THE YEARS. AND ARE WE DOING ANYTHING WITH THE GARAGE AT THE ZOO? AT THE ZOO? I WILL HAVE TO ASK RON, TO DESCRIBE ANY CAPITAL PROJECTS. I GUESS, WHAT'S THE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE GARAGE? HEY, RYAN. MA'AM, ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE TO THE RECENTLY COMPLETED GARAGE? NO, IT'S IT'S OPEN AND FUNCTIONAL. IT'S THERE'S NO RELATIONSHIP TO. OKAY, SO IT'S COMPLETELY THEIRS. OR IS IT OURS? OH, WELL, I MEAN, IT'S A CITY OWNED ASSET, BUT IT'S A PART OF THE ZOO, BUT THAT'S NOT INCLUDED AND WE'RE PAYING. IS IT A REVENUE BOND OR. THAT WAS GENERAL OBLIGATION BOND DEBT FROM 2017 PLUS MATCHED WITH FUNDS THAT WE RECEIVED FROM THE COUNTY ALLOCATION. RIGHT. NO. OKAY. COMPLETELY SEPARATE. I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO GET A WHAT IS THE TOTAL GIFT OR WHAT IS THE TOTAL? I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE WORD YOU. SITE STIPEND OR WHATEVER. I GUESS WHAT ARE WE USING HERE? MANAGEMENT FEE. I GUESS WHAT IS THE TOTAL AMOUNTS GIVEN TO THE ZOO AS AN ENTITY? COULD YOU GET THAT? I MEAN, I DON'T WANT YOU TO DO THE MATH HERE, BUT JUST KIND OF ACCUMULATING ALL OF IT, RIGHT. WE DID NOT FACTOR IN ANYTHING FOR ANY PREVIOUS DEBT THAT HAD BEEN ISSUED. WE WERE ONLY LOOKING AT THE NEW DEBT THAT IS BEING ADDED. BUT YES, MA'AM, WE CAN GET YOU AN ANSWER. OKAY. THANK YOU. ON REVISION TWO, WE DID STRIP OUT THE LOBBYISTS. WHERE ARE DO WE HAVE NO ASSISTANCE AT THIS MOMENT? NO, MA'AM. WE HAVE OUR STATE LEGISLATIVE DIRECTOR ON HOUSED IN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND THEN THE DIRECTOR OF GOVERNMENTAL AFFAIRS THAT WE JUST RECENTLY HIRED. OKAY. WE HAVE NO ACTUAL EXTERNAL SUPPORT. OKAY. AND BUT WE DO HAVE CONTRACTS. CORRECT. OR DO THOSE WE'LL HAVE TO ALL GO BE OUT. I GUESS I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PROCESS IN WHICH TO ALLOCATE 300 000? AND WHAT WERE WE GOING TO LOOK FOR TO USE THESE FUNDS? I COMPLETELY UNDERSTAND THE NEED BECAUSE JANUARY IS RIGHT AROUND THE CORNER, AND I DON'T KNOW IF HOW WE WILL JUGGLE IT ALL. BUT AGAIN, I'M JUST WANTING TO UNDERSTAND A LITTLE MORE ON THAT. YES, MA'AM. AND THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE WOULD WORK EITHER THROUGH THE CURRENT LEGISLATIVE COMMITTEE TO DETERMINE IF YOU WANT US TO GET INTO SOME NEW CONTRACTS THAT WOULD AGAIN BE OUR RECOMMENDATION, IF THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO TO WHERE WE WOULD HAVE A THIRD PARTY THAT WOULD THEN PROVIDE SUPPORT TO THE COUNCIL AND BEGIN TO DO THAT QUICKLY. I MEAN, WE, WE KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES, INCLUDING THE CITY OF FORT WORTH, THEY'RE ALREADY MOVING LIKE THEY'RE ALREADY ON THE GROUND. AND SO WE'RE KIND OF PLAYING CATCH UP AT THIS POINT, BUT DEFINITELY WANT TO WORK WITH THIS COUNCIL, WITH THE MAYOR TO DETERMINE THAT PATH FORWARD. RIGHT NOW, WE WANT TO JUST MAKE SURE THAT IF COUNCIL AGREES, LET'S GET AT LEAST SOME FUNDING INTO THE BUDGET, AND THEN THAT MEANS WE HAVE JUST OCTOBER AND NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. OKAY. SO YEAH, THAT MEANS WE'RE GOING TO BE RUNNING. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. THANK YOU ALL. ON REVISION THREE WHEN YOU SAY CONTINUE SERVICES AT GED CENTER AND I THINK Y'ALL TALKED ABOUT IT A LITTLE BIT, BUT I HAD DISCUSSIONS BEHIND. CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT? I'M GOING TO ASK YOU TO COME BACK. SORRY. I'M NOT SURE [03:50:06] WHY, BUT I'M JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHAT THE CENTER IS. GOOD AFTERNOON, LIBRARY DIRECTOR. SO WE HAVE A GED TESTING CENTER THAT IS HOUSED AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY THAT IS CURRENTLY RUN BY THE EXISTING ADULT LEARNING STAFF. OKAY. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS STILL CONTINUING THAT? NO, I CANNOT CONTINUE THAT WITHOUT STAFF. SO THOSE FINAL TWO BULLETS THAT MR. IRELAND TALKED THROUGH WERE SORT OF FUTURE GOALS THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO GET TO AT SOME POINT. OKAY. AND THERE'S NO WAY I KNOW I HAD A FEW PEOPLE COMING THAT ARE ALREADY VOLUNTEERS. THERE'S NOT ANY WAY THAT WE CAN CONTINUE SOME OF THESE IN SOME OF OUR MOST POPULAR ON A VOLUNTEER BASIS. I UNDERSTAND ABOUT THE MANAGEMENT, BUT I MEAN THE OVERSIGHT AND SUPERVISION. BUT IF WE'VE GOT SOMETHING THAT'S WORKING, HOW. AND IT'S A VOLUNTEER AND WE HAVE SOMEBODY IN. I MEAN, SOMEBODY IN THE LIBRARY THAT'S OPENING IT IS FROM THE CITY STAFF. IT PROBABLY HAS A SUPERVISORY TITLE. HOW CAN IT NOT? SO HELP ME EXPLAIN. HOW COULD THAT NOT MANAGE THE VOLUNTEERS? SURE. THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. AND I'VE ALSO RECEIVED THAT FROM CURRENT VOLUNTEERS. THEY ARE MANAGED CURRENTLY BY ADULT LEARNING STAFF. AND SO WITH THOSE STAFF NO LONGER BEING WITH THE CITY, WE HAVE NO ONE LEFT TO MANAGE THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. AND AS YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS DO NOT EXIST IN IN A VACUUM. THE PROGRAM HAS TO BE MANAGED. VOLUNTEERS HAVE TO BE MANAGED. SO WITHOUT THAT PERSON OR PEOPLE TO MANAGE THEM, I. I CAN'T HAVE A VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. THANK YOU. ON REVISION FOR HOW MANY HOURS A WEEK ARE IS WILL BE PROPOSED FOR THE SWIMMING LESSONS AND FOR OPEN SWIM. LET'S GET OUR PARKS TEAM OUT SINCE THEY RECOMMENDED THE RESPONSE FOR THIS ONE. I SAY, MR. O'CONNOR, COME IN. I'M SORRY, MA'AM, YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT SWIM LESSONS? YEAH, THE PLEASANT OAKS COMMUNITY POOL. WHAT IS PROPOSED FOR THE SWIM LESSON SCHEDULE AS WELL AS OPEN SWIM. RIGHT? SO THE COMMUNITY POOLS. THIS PAST SUMMER WERE OPEN THREE DAYS A WEEK, AND THE MAJORITY OF THE TIME WAS FOR OPEN SWIM. SO IF WE WERE TO CONSIDERING HAVING PLEASANT OAKS OPEN FOR NEXT YEAR, WE WOULD MORE FOCUS ON SWIM LESSONS. SO CUT DOWN THE OPEN SWIM HOURS THAT ONLY GENERATE A DOLLAR ENTRY FEE AND FOCUS ON OUR LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM, WHICH IS A COMMUNITY BENEFIT. PLUS IT'S A IT'S A DECENT REVENUE OPPORTUNITY. SO WOULD THEY TAKE ABOUT THE 20 I'D SAY 24 HOURS, 20 TO 24 HOURS. BUT HOW MANY OF THOSE WOULD BE FOR 15 HOURS, TEN HOURS FOR SWIMMING? WE HAVEN'T TOTALLY WORKED THAT OUT YET. BUT YEAH, I WOULD SAY PROBABLY AT LEAST HALF WOULD BE DEDICATED TOWARDS THE THE LEARN TO SWIM PROGRAM. NOW, IS THIS ONE OF THE POOLS THAT IS IS SUBJECT TO CLOSURE? IT IS. AND WHAT IS THE CLOSEST POOL FROM THIS AREA? YOU CAN GIVE ME THAT LATER. YEAH, IT WOULD PROBABLY BE SAMUEL GRAND, THE NEW COVE OVER THERE. AND IS THERE OTHER SWIMMING, I MEAN, OR OTHER TYPE? IS THERE SPRAY PARKS OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT NEARBY, OR IS IT. THIS IS REALLY THE ONLY SWIMMING FACILITY. THIS IS THIS IS A, IT'S THE MOST USED COMMUNITY POOL IN THE SYSTEM IN PLEASANT GROVE. BUT I WOULD ALSO SAY THAT WE ARE GOING TO WORK WITH THE MAYOR PRO TEM AND TRY TO FIND A STRATEGY, A FUNDING STRATEGY TO REPLACE THAT POOL. SO THAT IS SOMETHING WE WILL ALSO BE LOOKING INTO. THANK YOU. AND ON REVISION FIVE I LOVE BOTH OF THESE PLACES. CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE WATCHING ALL FAMILIES FROM ALL OVER COME IN AND HIKE. WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT WE GOT TO BE PARTNER. REMEMBER, YOU'RE THE. WHAT ARE YOU CALLING YOURSELVES? YES. THE OUTDOOR DESTINATION. WE CAN'T CUT OUTDOOR DESTINATIONS. INSPECTOR GENERAL. OKAY. EXPLAIN. REDUCE CITY COUNCIL AND MAYOR FUNDING BY 56,000. IS THAT PER OFFICE? IS THAT AS AN AGGREGATE? SO THE $56,000 WOULD BE THE TOTAL FROM THE TOTAL MCC BUDGET. THE TOTAL MAYOR COUNCIL BUDGET. IT'S NOT PER. OKAY. COUNCIL. SO WE HAD PREVIOUSLY IDENTIFIED ELIMINATING A CONTRACT FOR SIN CITY. THERE WAS 35,000 EXTRA FROM THAT. AND THEN THE YOUTH COMMISSION WAS 23. AND THE BALANCE OF WHAT WAS NEEDED FOR THIS PARTICULAR ASK WAS THE 56. SO WHAT DOES THAT COME OUT TO PER OFFICE? WE BACKED INTO 56, WHICH WOULD BE $3,733 PER OFFICE. OKAY. AND THEN YOUTH COMMISSION TRAVEL, DO THEY USE 23,000? I'LL START WITH THAT ONE. WE ACTUALLY HAD A TRAVEL BAN MOST RECENTLY. [03:55:01] AND SO THEY DID NOT EXPEND ANY TRAVEL FUNDS FOR THIS YEAR. I THINK IN PRIOR YEARS THROUGH THE ONE BIG TRIP, I THINK THAT THEY DO THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES, I CAN TELL YOU WHAT THEY'VE SPENT. AND I THINK WE'VE DONE SOME, SOME T ML THAT I THINK THE YOUTH COMMISSION HAS PARTICIPATED IN AS WELL. HOWEVER, WE'RE NOT A MEMBER OF TML SO WE DEFINITELY WOULD NOT HAVE THEM ATTENDING THAT PARTICULAR CONFERENCE. AND SO THAT'S THE WAY WE'VE LOOKED AT THE CURRENT TRAVEL FOR THE YOUTH COMMISSION. SO IS THERE A GOING FORWARD. IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT TRAVEL MAY BE ELIMINATED, ELIMINATED OR VERY SPARSE. IT'S GOING TO BE VERY SPARSE. AND IF YOU'LL NOTICE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET I'VE ACTUALLY TAKEN REDUCTIONS IN TRAVEL ACROSS THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION FROM EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT. PROFESSIONAL DEVELOPMENT AND TRAVEL IS ONE OF THE EXPENSE LINE ITEMS, OBJECT CODES THAT I'VE ALREADY PULLED MONEY FROM. AND SO THIS WOULD BE ONE OF THEM. OKAY. THANK YOU. ON REVISION SEVEN, DO WE HAVE METRICS AROUND THE EVICTION ADVOCACY SUPPORT PROGRAM? BECAUSE I BELIEVE AT ONE POINT A STRATEGY WAS TO KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED SO THEY WOULDN'T BECOME UNHOUSED, WHICH WOULD PUT THEM IN THE HOMELESS PATHWAY. AND I'M JUST WONDERING IF WE HAVE ANY METRICS REGARDING THIS. HI. THOR ERICKSON, DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT METRICS, DO YOU MEAN TOTAL EVICTION CASES OR METRICS OF OUR SOLICITATION, VALIDATING THE PROGRAM, VALIDATING THE PROGRAM? WE DO HAVE FROM OUR CURRENT PROGRAM THAT'S BEEN OPERATING SINCE 2022, WHERE WE HAD TWO VENDORS, NORTHWEST TEXAS LEGAL AID AND THE HARVEY LAW INSTITUTE. WE DO KNOW HOW MANY THEY THEY PREVENTED, BUT I DON'T HAVE LONG TERM STUDY ON IF THEY WAS FURTHER EVICTIONS OR IF THERE WAS CONTINUED IMPACT, OR IF THEY RECEIVED ANY TYPE OF ASSISTANCE ALONG WITH THE LEGAL ASSISTANCE. AND EXPLAIN PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP MODEL IN YOUR MIND. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WELL, IN MY MIND IT'S ABOUT WORKING WITH PARTNERS THAT WE ALREADY KNOW THAT INVEST IN THIS. SO THE COUNTY. SO IF WE'RE ABLE TO AMPLIFY THAT TYPE OF WORK, IF WE'RE ABLE TO WORK ON OUR PARTNERS AROUND PHILANTHROPY, WHO ARE INVESTING IN DALLAS HOME AND LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES THAT EXIST WHERE WE DON'T NECESSARILY HAVE THE GENERAL FUND BUDGET TO APPLY IT OR GRANT CAN'T COVER IT. CAN WE WORK WITH OUR NETWORKS TO CALL ATTENTION TO THE NEEDS THAT WE KNOW EXIST IN THE IN THE HOUSING SPACE? AND SO AS WE LOOK AT FORMING PARTNERSHIPS THROUGH OUR DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY IN DALLAS HOME, THAT'S WHAT WE MEAN BY LOOKING AT THOSE OPPORTUNITIES TO ASK MORE PEOPLE TO COME INTO THE SPACE AND DIRECTLY FUND. DOES THAT KEEP PEOPLE HOUSED? I BELIEVE THAT IT WILL. I MEAN, WE HAVE SOME ASSISTANCE FOR RENTAL ASSISTANCE THROUGH HOPWA. WE OFFER SOME HOUSING STABILITY THROUGH LIKE HOME REPAIR AND HELPING PEOPLE BECOME HOMEOWNERS. THERE'S A LOT TO BE DONE IN OUR HOUSING SPACE AROUND HOW PEOPLE ARE EXPERIENCING CRISIS. OBVIOUSLY WE HAD A LOT OF MONEY THROUGH ARPA THAT ALLOWED US TO REALLY RAMP UP IN A LOT OF THESE SERVICES. AND SO AS THESE SOURCES OF FUNDS CONTINUE TO RUN TO THEIR EXPENDITURE, WE WILL CONTINUE TO HAVE HOUSING CRISES. BUT CALLING ON OUR PARTNERS AS WE CONTINUE TO DEVELOP THAT AND UNDERSTAND WHO CAN COME TO THE TABLE WITH US TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES IS PART OF WHAT I BELIEVE IS, YOU KNOW, THE NEW NORM, AS THE CITY MANAGER SAYS, AND HOW WE ACTIVATE OUR PARTNERS TO FILL SOME SPACES WHERE WE KNOW WE MIGHT NOT HAVE ENOUGH RESOURCES TO REALLY ADDRESS THE ISSUE. SO I GUESS MY LAST THOUGHT IS, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THE ROI IF WE PUT IN A MILLION? DO WE GET X BACK? SO FIGURE THAT OUT AND I'LL HAVE YOU COME BACK ON AROUND TWO. THANKS. CHAIRMAN WEST, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR. GREAT JOB, JACK, TO YOU AND YOUR TEAM. I KNOW YOU GOT MOST OF THESE AMENDMENTS ON MONDAY. AND SO GETTING THIS TOGETHER COULD NOT HAVE BEEN EASY. AND I ALSO APPRECIATE APPRECIATE HOW YOU LAID IT OUT. I THINK IT'S IT'S, IT MAKES IT EASY FOR US TO GIVE YOU COMMENTS. SO I'LL GO, I'LL DO THE EASY ONES FIRST. THE REVISIONS TWO, FOUR, FIVE AND SIX. I SUPPORT THE DEBITS AND CREDITS FOR THAT ON REVISION FOUR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION THOUGH. I COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE FOR PUTTING IN THE COMMUNITY POOL. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE PASSIONATE ABOUT WITH OUR MARTIN WEISS RECREATION CENTER COMMUNITY POOL AS WELL. AND I KNOW INTERESTINGLY, I'VE SAID THIS BEFORE, THAT COMMUNITY POOL IS ALMOST AS WELL ATTENDED AS OUR REGIONAL POOL AT KID SPRINGS, WHICH HAS SLIDES AND SPLASH GROUNDS AND EVERYTHING ELSE, BECAUSE THERE'S SUCH A NEED FOR THAT COMMUNITY POOL IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF MY DISTRICT. SO IF WE WANTED TO FULLY, THIS MAY BE FOR PARKS, IF WE WANTED TO FULLY FUND ALL THE COMMUNITY POOLS FOR THE NEXT YEAR, OR AT LEAST MARTIN WEISS POOL, HOW MUCH MORE MONEY WOULD WE NEED? AND THEN THE NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, WHERE WOULD THAT SOURCE OF FUNDS COME FROM? [04:00:04] WOULD IT ALSO BE INCREASED SWIM LESSONS, OR DO YOU NOT KNOW THAT YET? GOOD AFTERNOON, SEAN JOHNSON, PARKS AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT. MOST OF OUR POOLS ARE RUNNING AROUND 200 K A YEAR TO OPERATE. SO AS FAR AS A MODEL IS OFFERING SWIM LESSONS, SWIM TEAM, WE'D HAVE TO LOOK MORE INTO WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. OKAY. THIS WILL BE SOMETHING THAT I WANT TO ADD BACK INTO THE BUDGET, SO WE CAN FIGURE THAT OUT LATER. ALL RIGHT. NEXT I WANT TO TOUCH ON REVISIONS. REVISION THREE THE LIBRARY ONE, I JUST I NEED TO TALK TO STAFF AND TALK TO MY ADVOCATES ABOUT THAT. I DON'T KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT IT TO COMMENT ON REVISION THREE YET. REVISION ONE AND SEVEN, I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS ON. BUT BEFORE I DO THAT, JACK, I SENT YOUR TEAM SOME QUESTIONS ON THE 21ST. WELL, WE HAVE THOSE ANSWERS TO MY QUESTIONS BEFORE FRIDAY WHEN OUR BUDGET AMENDMENTS ARE DUE. WE ARE WORKING TOWARDS THAT. I CAN'T COMMIT TO ALL OF THEM. WE WILL GET AS MANY OUT AS WE CAN BEFORE FRIDAY. ONE OF MY QUESTIONS WAS TO GIVE A COST INDICATION OF WHAT IT TAKES TO RUN ALL OF OUR VARIOUS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND I DO TOO. I WILL PROBABLY USE ONE OF THOSE AS A DEBIT, SO I NEED TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION IF I'M GOING TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. LET'S GO TO LET'S GO TO THE ZOO AND DAS YOU KNOW, PITTING THESE TWO ENTITIES AGAINST EACH OTHER. DAS VERSUS THE ZOO. IT'S LIKE WE BOTH WANT TO FUND BOTH OF THEM. I MEAN, IT'S IT'S LIKE SAYING YOU CAN ONLY BUY SCHOOL SUPPLIES FOR ONE OF YOUR KIDS. YOU'RE GOING TO GET IT FOR YOUR DAUGHTER OR YOUR SON. I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S GOING TO END UP BEING A BIG FIGHT UP HERE, JUST LIKE WE HAD ON THE CONVENTION CENTER VERSUS THE VIADUCTS. SO I WANT TO SUPPORT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, BUT I DON'T WANT TO DO IT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE ZOO AND I. MY FIRST QUESTION WILL BE, IS THE 500 000 NEEDED FOR THE INCREASED ANIMAL CRUELTY INVESTIGATIONS ON DAS? DO WE HAVE AN INDICATION THAT 500,000 IS THE MAGIC NUMBER THAT'S GOING TO REDUCE THEM? AND WHAT I'VE BEEN HEARING IS THAT THERE SHOULD BE MORE FUNDING FOR TNR, YOU KNOW, FOR TRAP AND RELEASE. SO I HAVEN'T HEARD FUNDING ON THE CRUELTY. SO TELL ME WHAT YOU'VE HEARD. LET'S LET'S HAVE THE DIRECTOR COME OUT AND TALK WITH YOU ABOUT WHAT WE'VE SEEN. ACTUALLY, THE ANIMAL CRUELTY SITUATION HAS BEEN KIND OF A THREE YEAR PRESSURE THAT WE'VE BEEN ABSORBING BECAUSE WE'RE GOING OVER BUDGET IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, BUT I'LL HAVE TO EXPLAIN IT. OKAY. YEAH. AS I STATED EARLIER, PAUL ROMANO, DIRECTOR, DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES SOME OF THE CAPACITY PRESSURES RELATED TO CRUELTY HAS BEEN THE INFLUX OF INCREASED CRUELTY VICTIMS. BUT ALSO THIS PAST YEAR, OUR PARTNER, OPERATION KINDNESS HUMANE SOCIETY, WAS PROVIDING FORENSIC SUPPORT FOR ABOUT $500,000 A YEAR. THEY DID THAT FOR THREE YEARS. AND THAT PARTNERSHIP ENDED IN MARCH. SO NOW DAS HAS ABSORBED THAT COST AS WELL. SO THAT'S WHERE SOME OF THE DRIVERS FOR THESE INCREASED COSTS ARE COMING FROM. GOT IT. THANK YOU. I WOULD JUST I JOINED MY COLLEAGUE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON ON CONCERNS ABOUT CUTTING THE ZOO. I THINK WE'RE ALSO CONFLATING THE, THE BOND AWARD THAT THEY RECEIVED IN THE LAST IN THE LAST BOND, WHICH VOTERS SUPPORTED, WHICH WE ALL SUPPORTED WITH THEIR ONGOING OPERATIONAL COSTS. AND I THINK IT'S UNFAIR TO CONFLATE THOSE TWO ITEMS. THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. I'M NOT COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD WITH A CUT AT THIS TIME TO THE ZOO MANAGEMENT FEE. AND I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE SOME MORE CONVERSATIONS TO UNDERSTAND HOW THAT WOULD IMPACT OUR PARTNER. I DO APPRECIATE THE CREATIVITY, AND I KNOW YOU'RE TRYING TO FIND MONEY WHEREVER YOU CAN. CITY MANAGER THAT'S JUST MY THOUGHTS ON THAT. AND THEN LASTLY, ON THE EVICTION ADVOCACY, I DEFINITELY THINK THE COUNTY SHOULD BE PAYING FOR THIS. I AGREE WITH THAT. I JUST WOULD BE CONCERNED IF WE THIS IS ONE OF THE AMENDMENTS I DID SUBMIT. IF WE DO NOT ENSURE THAT THAT SUPPORT IS VIABLE FOR THE NEXT YEAR, WHAT THAT MEANS FOR SOME OF OUR MOST VULNERABLE NEIGHBORS, HOW WILL THAT TRANSLATE INTO MORE HOMELESSNESS? SO I WOULD BE UNCOMFORTABLE NOT FUNDING THAT AT THIS TIME WITHOUT THAT INFORMATION. THANK YOU. MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING THE CITY MANAGER THE BUDGET OFFICE, AND ALL OF OUR STAFF FOR THE WORK THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS PROCESS. I APPRECIATE THE EFFORT TO STREAMLINE THE AMENDMENT PROCESS AND GIVE THIS COUNCIL A MORE EFFICIENT WAY TO WORK THROUGH THE VARIOUS PROPOSALS BEFORE US. [04:05:05] I'M GOING TO HOP AROUND A LITTLE BIT, AND I'LL BEGIN WITH REVISION SEVEN. I SHARE THE FRUSTRATION WITH THE RESPONSE WE'VE RECEIVED REGARDING EVICTION ADVOCACY FUNDING, AND I REMAIN CONCERNED THAT THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS WORK IS BEING UNDERVALUED. THIS IS NOT AN ANCILLARY PROGRAM OR AN OPTIONAL SERVICE THAT'S DISCONNECTED FROM THE CITY'S BASIC RESPONSIBILITIES. EVICTION ADVOCACY IS AND SHOULD BE TREATED AS A CORE CITY SERVICE. IF HOUSING STABILITY AND HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION ARE CORE RESPONSIBILITIES OF THIS CITY, THEN HELPING RESIDENTS REMAIN HOUSED MUST BE PART OF THAT WORK. WE SPEND SIGNIFICANT CITY RESOURCES RESPONDING TO HOMELESSNESS AFTER PEOPLE LOSE THEIR HOUSING. EVICTION ADVOCACY ALLOWS US TO INTERVENE EARLIER, WHEN THERE MAY STILL BE AN OPPORTUNITY TO PREVENT DISPLACEMENT, KEEP A FAMILY IN ITS HOME AND AVOID THE MUCH GREATER HUMAN AND FINANCIAL COSTS THAT CAN FOLLOW ON EVICTION. IT ALSO ENSURES THAT RESIDENTS FACING ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL LEGAL PROCEEDINGS OF THEIR LIVES HAVE ACCESS TO INFORMATION AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE NECESSARY TO UNDERSTAND AND PROTECT THEIR RIGHTS. FOR A FAMILY LIVING PAYCHECK TO PAYCHECK, AN EVICTION CAN AFFECT MUCH MORE THAN WHERE THEY SLEEP. IT CAN DISRUPT EMPLOYMENT, A CHILD'S EDUCATION, TRANSPORTATION, AND THE STABILITY OF AN ENTIRE HOUSEHOLD. THAT'S WHY I DON'T VIEW EVICTION ADVOCACY AS SOMETHING SEPARATE FROM HOUSING, HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, OR THE DELIVERY OF BASIC CITY SERVICES. IT'S PART OF THAT CONTINUUM. WE WOULD NEVER SUGGEST THAT HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION IS UNIMPORTANT SIMPLY BECAUSE ANOTHER ORGANIZATION MIGHT ALSO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE. AND WE SHOULDN'T TREAT EVICTION ADVOCACY DIFFERENTLY SIMPLY BECAUSE SOME OF THIS WORK IS PERFORMED THROUGH OUTSIDE PARTNERS. I RECOGNIZE THE DIFFICULT DECISIONS OUR CITY MANAGER AND STAFF HAVE TO MAKE WHEN BALANCING LIMITED RESOURCES AND COMPETING PRIORITIES. BUT IDENTIFYING SOMETHING AS A CORE SERVICE HAS TO MEAN SOMETHING WHEN THE BUDGET GETS DIFFICULT. IF THE FIRST RESPONSE TO A BUDGET CHALLENGE IS TO ELIMINATE THE PROGRAMS THAT PREVENT RESIDENTS FROM FALLING INTO CRISIS, THEN WE HAVE TO ASK OURSELVES WHETHER SPENDING DECISIONS ACTUALLY REFLECT THE PRIORITIES WE SAY WE HAVE. AND I THINK THERE'S AN IMPORTANT FISCAL QUESTION HERE AS WELL. ELIMINATING AN UPSTREAM SERVICE DOESN'T NECESSARILY ELIMINATE THE COST. IT MAY SIMPLY MOVE THE COST DOWNSTREAM TO EMERGENCY SHELTER, HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE, AND OTHER SYSTEMS THAT ARE MORE EXPENSIVE AND ARE RESPONDING AFTER THE DAMAGE HAS ALREADY OCCURRED. IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT HOMELESSNESS PREVENTION, WE CANNOT DEFINE OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS BEGINNING ONLY AFTER SOMEONE BECOMES HOMELESS. KEEPING PEOPLE HOUSED IN THE FIRST PLACE HAS TO BE PART OF THE CORE SERVICE WE PROVIDE. AND FOR THOSE REASONS, I BELIEVE EVICTION ADVOCACY DESERVES TO BE TREATED AS A CORE SERVICE, AND IT SHOULD BE FUNDED ACCORDINGLY. WITH REGARD TO REVISION FOUR, I WANT TO BRIEFLY SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE CITY MANAGER'S PROPOSED REVISION TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING NECESSARY TO KEEP PLEASANT OAKS COMMUNITY POOL OPEN FOR THE 2027 SEASON. EARLIER THIS WEEK, I SENT THE CITY MANAGER A MEMORANDUM ALONG WITH WELL, I'M SORRY. I SENT THE CITY MANAGER MEMORANDUM ASKING HER OFFICE, IN COORDINATION WITH THE PARKS AND REC DEPARTMENT, TO IDENTIFY A PATH FORWARD FOR PLEASANT OAKS. I APPRECIATE THE CITY MANAGER RESPONDING TO THAT REQUEST AND WORKING WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS TO FIND A SOLUTION. I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFICULT BUDGET ENVIRONMENT WE'RE OPERATING IN. I ALSO UNDERSTAND THE BROADER RATIONALE FOR SUSPENDING OPERATIONS AT AGING COMMUNITY POOLS, PARTICULARLY FACILITIES THAT ARE NEARING THE END OF THEIR USEFUL LIVES AND MAY ULTIMATELY BE DEMOLISHED OR REPLACED. BUT PLEASANT OAKS IS DIFFERENT. FIRST, PLEASANT OAKS IS THE MOST HEAVILY USED COMMUNITY POOL IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A LIMITED EXCEPTION, IT MAKES SENSE TO PRESERVE THE FACILITY THAT PROVIDES AQUATIC ACCESS TO THE GREATEST, GREATEST NUMBER OF RESIDENTS. SECOND, WE ALL. WE ALREADY HAVE CAPITAL DOLLARS. COMMITTED TO PLEASANT OAKS THROUGH THE 2024 BOND PROGRAM. WE SHOULD PROTECT THAT INVESTMENT AND ALLOW OUR RESIDENTS TO CONTINUE BENEFITING FROM THIS FACILITY WHILE WE DETERMINE AND IMPLEMENT ITS LONG TERM FUTURE. AND THIRD DISTRICT FIVES PARK BOARD REPRESENTATIVE AND I ARE ACTIVELY WORKING ON A LONG TERM SOLUTION, AND IT'S LOOKING VERY PROMISING. MY GOAL IS NOT TO KEEP AN AGING POOL OPERATING INDEFINITELY. WHAT I WANT TO AVOID IS AN UNNECESSARY GAP IN SERVICE. WHERE WHERE WE CLOSE A HEAVILY USED POOL, LEAVE THE COMMUNITY WITHOUT THAT AMENITY FOR AN INDEFINITE AMOUNT OF TIME, AND THEN EVENTUALLY COME BACK AND BUILD ITS REPLACEMENT. WE SHOULD BE BUILDING A BRIDGE TO THE TO THE REPLACEMENT, NOT CREATING A GAP IN SERVICE ALONG THE WAY. IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT FROM A PUBLIC SAFETY STANDPOINT. A NEIGHBORHOOD POOL IS NOT SIMPLY A PLACE TO SWIM. IT PROVIDES STRUCTURED PROGRAMING, RECREATION, AND A SAFE AND SUPERVISED ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUNG PEOPLE DURING THE SUMMER MONTHS. AND I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT I'M NOT ASKING THE COUNCIL TO REVERSE THE CITY'S BROADER POLICY OR KEEP EVERY AGING COMMUNITY POOL OPEN. THIS IS A NARROW AND REASONABLE EXCEPTION BASED ON UTILIZATION, EXISTING CAPITAL INVESTMENT, [04:10:01] AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE ACTIVELY PURSUING A VIABLE LONG TERM REPLACEMENT. SO I RESPECTFULLY ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT THIS REVISION. THANK YOU. WELL, PERFECTLY TIMED, MAYOR PRO TEM, GREAT JOB. GREAT JOB. MISS KENNEDY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THE PRESENTATION AND AND ALSO I DO SEE SOME BENEFIT OF THE NEW PROCESS. BUT I HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR NINE YEARS AND IT WOULD BE HELPFUL, I THINK, TO KNOW WHERE THE AMENDMENTS CAME FROM JUST SO THAT WE CAN TALK TO OUR COLLEAGUES. USUALLY, I THINK IN THE PAST, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SPOKEN TO THE SPONSORS SO WE CAN COMMUNICATE. AND ALSO IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO HAVE THE PRESENTATION A LITTLE BIT EARLIER. I WAS TRYING TO TALK WITH STAFF IN BETWEEN ON THE BREAK, JUST TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND SOME OF THE SOURCE OF FUNDS. SO THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL IN THE IN THE FUTURE. AND ALSO THE MEMO CAME OUT QUITE LATE ON FRIDAY. AND SO TO HAVE THAT EARLY IN THE PROCESS WOULD BE REALLY HELPFUL. SO THANK YOU. REGARDING THE REVISIONS I TOO AM CONCERNED ABOUT THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES. DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES IS IN MY DISTRICT AND I DEFINITELY SEE A NEED FOR PROVIDING FUNDS, BUT I DID GO ON A TOUR OF THE DALLAS ZOO RECENTLY, AND I KNOW THAT THEY ALSO HELP WITH ANIMAL CRUELTY CASES. WHEN I WAS THERE, I LEARNED THAT THEY, THEY WORKED CLOSELY WITH DPD AND ALSO YOU KNOW, SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR SERVICES ARE NOT IMPACTED AS WELL, BECAUSE THEY DO ALSO HAVE A PIECE IN THIS ANIMAL CRUELTY. INVESTIGATIONS AND SUPPORT AS WELL. REGARDING REVISION THREE WITH THE LIBRARY AND ADULT SERVICES, WE ACTUALLY RECEIVED A $250,000 GRANT FROM COUNCIL MEMBER VC, AND A PORTION WAS THAT FOR WAS FOR ADULT LEARNING. SO IF THERE IS ANY WAY TO USE SOME OF THOSE FUNDS FOR THAT LOCATION THAT WAS PROVIDED BY A GRANT FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL IF WE WOULD BE ABLE TO DO THAT. I DO WANT TO, I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE COMMUNITY OAK POOLS. I DEFINITELY SUPPORT MY COLLEAGUE IN WEST DALLAS WE'RE ACTUALLY SCHEDULED TO GET A BRAND NEW POOL AT JC ZARAGOZA. AND I FOUND OUT, I THINK AT THE BEGINNING OF THE SUMMER THAT IT WAS GOING TO END UP BEING CLOSED FOR TWO SUMMERS UNTIL WE GOT OUR NEW POOL. AND SO I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WAS INCLUDED IN FUNDING. JC WAS INCLUDED IN FUNDING FOR NEXT SUMMER BECAUSE MY UNDERSTANDING IS THE CONSTRUCTION WILL NOT EVEN BEGIN FOR THE BRAND NEW POOL UNTIL THE END OF THE OF 2026. SO JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT ON THERE AS WELL. OH, THERE'S RYAN. YES, MA'AM. YEAH. SO YOUR QUESTION WAS AROUND FUNDING FOR JK, THE EXISTING POOL FOR NEXT SUMMER. YEAH. BECAUSE I THINK WHEN WE ORIGINALLY TALKED ABOUT GETTING THE NEW POOL IT WAS ONLY SUPPOSED TO BE CLOSED FOR ONE SUMMER. AND NOW I THINK IT'S POSSIBLY CLOSED FOR TWO SUMMER, BUT NOTHING'S WRONG WITH THE POOL. WE'RE JUST KIND OF WAITING FOR DESIGN FOR THE NEW AND THE BUILDING OF THE NEW POOL. YES, MA'AM. AND HAPPY TO TALK MORE WITH YOU OFFLINE ABOUT THE STATUS OF THAT. AND IT IS UNDERWAY. THE DESIGN PROCESS, BY THE WAY. SO WE'RE WORKING DILIGENTLY TOWARDS THAT GOAL, BUT RELATED TO THE FUNDING OF THE COMMUNITY POOL. SO THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR, THE FUNDING FOR COMMUNITY POOLS WAS SWITCHED FROM GENERAL FUNDS TO ONE TIME FUNDS. AND SO THERE ARE NO OPERATING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS FOR THE OTHER SIX COMMUNITY POOLS FOR NEXT FISCAL YEAR, FOR NEXT SUMMER. OKAY. SO CAN WE GET A LIST OF THE POOLS THAT WILL ARE SCHEDULED TO OPERATE NEXT SUMMER THEN? AND I GUESS THE HOURS. YES, MA'AM. OF COURSE. AND IT WILL BE THE IT'LL BE THE NINE NEWER AQUATIC CENTERS. YES. HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION. OKAY. AND THEN IF YOU WANT TO JUST STAY THERE. SO I'M ALSO CONCERNED ABOUT THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION SECURITY. WE DID TALK ABOUT THIS EARLIER IN THE BREAK. SO FOR ME AND MY DISTRICT, WE HAVE QUITE A FEW PARKS AND SOME OF THEM DO CAUSE ISSUES. NASH DAVIS IS ONE THAT I COMMONLY GET YOU KNOW, CONCERNS ABOUT. AND SO WHILE I FULLY SUPPORT THE FUNDING FOR THESE I'M JUST WONDERING, USING THIS SECURITY FUNDING WHEN MAYBE Y'ALL NEED TO SHIFT WHERE THERE'S SOME NEED. I DON'T KNOW IF Y'ALL THOUGHT ABOUT THAT BEFORE OFFERING THIS AS A POTENTIAL SOURCE OF FUNDING. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLARIFY. I WAS CONFIRMING WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS, AND HE REMINDED ME THAT THERE ARE TWO OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO EXPLORE TO ACHIEVE THIS $60,000 SAVINGS THAT WOULD GO TOWARDS FUNDING THE PLEASANT OAKS POOL, ONE OF WHICH IS WHAT WE DISCUSSED, WHICH IS THE DPD OVERTIME. BUT THE OTHER SOURCE IS THE, THE SECURITY CAMERAS THAT WE ROUTINELY BUY EVERY SINGLE YEAR TO DEPLOY OUT OF THE PARK [04:15:08] SYSTEM. IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT NEXT FISCAL YEAR, THIS COMING FISCAL YEAR, WE WILL BE GETTING 50 DPD CAMERAS THAT WE WILL BE ABLE TO DEPLOY IN THE PARK SYSTEM AT NO COST TO US. SO THAT REPRESENTS A SAVINGS OPPORTUNITY. SO WE WOULD WE WOULD EXPLORE UTILIZING THAT SAVINGS FOR THE PLEASANT OAKS POOL AND MAYBE A SMALL COMBINATION OF THE DPD OVERTIME. SO I WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT. OKAY. NO, THAT'S SUPER HELPFUL. AND I KNOW THAT OUR OUR DISTRICT COMMONLY ASKED FOR MORE CAMERAS IN THEIR PARKS BECAUSE SOME OF THE ISSUES. SO THAT THAT WOULD BE A GREAT CHANGE OR ADDITION TO THE SECURITY THAT Y'ALL ARE PROVIDING. AND IF I COULD JUST ADD ONE THING, I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY A PREVIOUS ANSWER TO, TO COUNCILMAN WEST, THE COST TO OPERATE A COMMUNITY POOL IS AROUND $100,000. OKAY. THAT'S ALL FOR PARKS. SO MY OTHER QUESTION IS ABOUT THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FUNDING. IS THAT TIED TO A POSITION OR IS IT JUST OFF THE TOP? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCILWOMAN CADENA, AND I DO WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE YOUR EARLIER COMMENTS ABOUT THE DELAY IN MEMOS AND ALL OF THAT. AND AGAIN, I ACCEPT RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE TEAM AND THE WORK THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO. SO WE ARE WE'RE NOT PROUD THAT WE HAVEN'T GIVEN YOU ALL THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE THIS IN ADVANCE. SO AGAIN, IT'S BEEN A BUSY SUMMER AND WE ARE STILL BURNING MIDNIGHT OIL, SO I DO APOLOGIZE. WE LOOKED AT JUST ACROSS THE BOARD WHAT THAT AMOUNT WOULD BE. IT'S NOT ABOUT ELIMINATING ANY OF THE POSITIONS THAT THE DEPARTMENT THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE IN THE DEPARTMENT. WE DO KNOW THAT SOME COUNCIL MEMBERS ARE CURRENTLY STAFFING THEIR DISTRICTS WITH THREE TWO. I THINK IT VARIES. SO THIS WOULD REALLY BE COUNCIL'S DECISION ABOUT HOW YOU WOULD APPLY THAT. I THINK IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT MAYBE 3000 OR SO. BUT IT'S NOT ELIMINATING ANY OF THE ASSIGNED FTES OR THE NUMBER OF POSITIONS THAT YOU CAN PICK FROM TO STAFF YOUR DEPARTMENT. SO IT WOULD REALLY BE WHERE YOU DECIDE TO PULL THAT FROM IF THAT GOES FORWARD. THAT'S JUST OUR RECOMMENDATION AT THIS POINT. WE DID NOT INCLUDE IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. AS WE LOOKED ACROSS THE ORGANIZATION IN EVERY DEPARTMENT, WE DID NOT INCLUDE ANY REDUCTIONS IN THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL OFFICE AT ALL, EVEN IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THEN MY LAST COMMENT IS I DO WANT TO JOIN MY COLLEAGUES AND JUST TALKING ABOUT THE EVICTION ADVOCACY, I, I REMEMBER WHEN I WAS WORKING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER NARVAEZ DURING COVID THIS DID HELP QUITE A FEW OF OUR RESIDENTS FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. AND SO IT WAS A GREAT SUPPORT TO BE ABLE TO, I KNOW UP, ESPECIALLY UP IN OUR BLACKMON AREA, THEY ATTENDED MANY OF OUR COMMUNITY MEETINGS. WE HAVE SO MANY MULTIFAMILY UNITS UP THERE AND WE'RE ABLE TO HELP KEEP SO MANY OF OUR RESIDENTS IN THEIR HOMES. SO IF THERE IS A WAY TO FIND FUNDING FOR THIS, I THINK THAT IT WOULD DEFINITELY BE USED AND IS SOMETHING THAT COULD HELP OUR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR, AND THANK YOU FOR THE PREPARATION AND CITY MANAGER. I LIKE THIS NEW PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THIS OPPORTUNITY TO DO IT A BETTER WAY ON REVISION ONE. THIS IS ABOUT DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES AND THE DALLAS ZOO. I DO THINK THEY'VE GOT OTHER REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES THAT SHOULD HELP OFFSET THIS. I'M NOT HAPPY WHEN WE GET A MESSAGE SAYING, WELL, WE'LL HAVE TO CUT FUNDING FOR OUR MOST ACCESSIBLE PROGRAMS OR THOSE THAT ARE MAKE THINGS AFFORDABLE. I MEAN, WE'VE HEARD THAT FROM OTHER NONPROFITS THAT WE PARTNER WITH. AND I JUST HATE THAT CARD. YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT BANKS THAT HAVE TO FULFILL THE COMMUNITY REINVESTMENT ACT OBLIGATIONS. IF IT'S A PROGRAM THAT HAS DEMOGRAPHICS AROUND NEEDY FOLKS WHO, WHO WANT TO COME TO THE ZOO AND LEARN ABOUT ANIMALS AND YOU CAN RAISE MONEY FOR THAT. SO I THINK DDAS CERTAINLY CAN PUT THESE FUNDS TO GOOD USE. WE'VE ALREADY SHOWN AN OVERAGE IN THE CRUELTY CATEGORY THIS YEAR AND THEIR LINE ITEMS OVER $1 MILLION. BUT LIKE CHAIR WEST I THINK ON TNR, I THINK THE SPAY NEUTER IS SOMETHING WE'VE BEEN ASKING FOR THE BIG NUMBER ON, ON WHAT WOULD IT TAKE TO REALLY KNOCK THAT BACK IN OUR COMMUNITY SO THAT WE DON'T DEAL WITH THE STRAYS AND THE VIOLENCE THAT SOMETIMES ACCOMPANY THEM IN SOME PARTS OF OUR CITY. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US FUND THAT ON NUMBER TWO. REVISION NUMBER TWO ON OUR UPCOMING SESSION AND HAVING PEOPLE ON THE GROUND FOR US IN AUSTIN YOU KNOW, HOUSTON, SAN ANTONIO, AND AUSTIN HAVE RFQS OUT. FORT WORTH HIRED A TEAM EARLIER THIS YEAR. I KNOW, AND ALL OF THESE CITIES DID LIKE WE DID. [04:20:04] AND THEY SAID, LET'S JUST TAKE A BREAK. LET'S, LET'S CUT THEM LOOSE. LET'S WATCH OUR MONEY. BUT I'M WORRIED ABOUT DALLAS BEING FLAT FOOTED. AND WHEN IT COMES TO WATER AND SOME OTHER CATEGORIES, I JUST I THINK WE NEED TO HAVE PEOPLE ON THE GROUND ALL THE TIME THERE. WHO CAN GET THAT INTEL. THIS IS REALLY ABOUT INTELLIGENCE. SO I SUPPORT THAT. ON REVISION THREE ON LIBRARY FUNDING. THIS IDEA OF THIS WAS TO HAVE A BRIDGE TO TRANSFER TO OUR NEW PARTNERS SO THAT WE DON'T DISRUPT THESE INCREDIBLE SERVICES. I WAS BLOWN AWAY 100 PROGRAMS A WEEK. MY GOSH, FOR ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING AND GED, THAT ONLY LIFTS PEOPLE UP AND MAKES THEM MORE ECONOMICALLY MOBILE. THAT ALSO HELPS A MULTITUDE OF OUR ISSUES. I'D ALSO LIKE TO LEARN MORE FROM OUR FRIENDS OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY BOARD ABOUT WHAT THEIR FUNDRAISING PLANS ARE AND HOW THEY'RE MESHING WITH OUR LIBRARY SYSTEM ON WHAT THE NEEDS ARE AND WHAT THEY CAN FUND. I KNOW TYPICALLY WE DON'T FUND SALARIES SOME SOME FOUNDATIONS AND OTHER ENTITIES DO. AND SO I'M NOT SURE WHAT'S STANDING IN THE WAY OF THAT. I'M SURE YOU WANT A RELIABLE REVENUE STREAM IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SALARIES, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO TRY TO GET AT THAT USING THIS, THIS DEDICATED GROUP ON THE COMMUNITY POOLS ON THE CEDAR RIDGE PRESERVE AND AUDUBON CENTER. I, YOU KNOW, WE SAT THROUGH AN AUDIT THIS YEAR THAT TALKED ABOUT A MULTI YEAR FUND, A 14 THAT HAD A FUND OF $14,695,000 THAT I BELIEVE IS SUPPOSED TO BE CONVERTING TO THE GENERAL FUND. AND SO IF THERE'S ANYTHING ON HERE ABOUT PARK AND REC, I'D GO THERE FIRST. I MEAN, OR REALLY THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE GENERAL FUND. I MEAN, THAT SHOULD APPLY TO ANY OF THESE. WE COULD DO ALL OF THIS WITH THOSE FUNDS THAT HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATING YEAR AFTER YEAR, NOT IN AN APPROPRIATE WAY. BUT ON THE EVICTION ADVOCACY REALLY, THIS IS WE'VE GOT TO GET THE COURTS, WE'VE GOT TO EDUCATE THESE JP COURTS. THERE ARE CERTAIN ONES THAT ARE MY UNDERSTANDING IS JUST NOT REALLY FOLLOWING THE LAW. SO THESE RESIDENTS DON'T GET DUE PROCESS. LAST YEAR THE CITY HAD 28,000 EVICTIONS. 25% OF THOSE WERE FOR LESS THAN $1,500. AND WE'VE GOT PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC ARMS. WE'VE GOT CHURCHES STEPPING IN TO HELP CLOSE THAT GAP AND PAY THOSE RENTS AND GET THOSE PEOPLE BACK ON THEIR FEET AND STAY IN THEIR HOME. IT DOES COST US TO COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ POINT, PAY FOR IT ON THE FRONT END OR ON THE BACK END. I MEAN, IT'S GOING TO COME TO US. AND I THINK IT'S INTERESTING THAT OUR CORE PRIORITIES ARE HOUSING STABILITY, HOMELESSNESS REDUCTION, FAIR HOUSING, SENIOR SERVICES. I MEAN, ALL OF THESE THINGS ARE ADDRESSED BY FUNDING THIS PARTICULAR REVISION. AND THERE'S A RECENT STUDY FROM UNIVERSITY OF CHICAGO FROM DECEMBER 2023 THAT TALKS ABOUT FOR EVERY 1% INCREASE IN THE EVICTION RATE IN A CENSUS TRACT, IT'S ASSOCIATED WITH 2.66 MORE SHOOTINGS. SO NOW PUBLIC SAFETY HAS ENTERED THE CHAT. SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK REAL HARD AT THIS. AND SO WHILE IT'S GREAT THAT THE COUNTY IS FUNDING, I THINK WE NEED TO FUND THIS AS WELL TO TURN OFF THE SPIGOT TO HOMELESSNESS. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. I'M GOING TO FOLLOW EVERYONE'S LEAD, I THINK, HERE AND JUST RUN THROUGH THE SEVEN ONE AT A TIME. ALL RIGHT. FIRST ONE UP IS THE $500,000 CUT TO THE ZOO. I WANT TO REMIND EVERYBODY THAT THE ZOO PROVIDES A SIGNIFICANT BENEFIT TO THE CITY. THEY ARE THE SECOND LARGEST EMPLOYER IN OAK CLIFF. 35% OF THE ZOO EMPLOYEES LIVE IN OAK CLIFF. THEY PROVIDE AN AVERAGE OF ABOUT 1800 JOBS PER YEAR. AND THERE IS AN ECONOMIC IMPACT THAT'S PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FOR EVERY DOLLAR THAT THE CITY SPENDS. THERE'S AN $18 RETURN IN ECONOMIC IMPACT. SO THE ZOO IS AN IMPORTANT ASSET. I THINK TAKING THE ADDITIONAL 500,000 WOULD BE A SIGNIFICANT HIT TO THEM, AND I WOULD NOT ADVISE THAT. SO I AM NOT FOR REVISION NUMBER ONE REVISION NUMBER TWO. I DO SUPPORT. WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT AT THAT DIVISION REVISION NUMBER THREE, THE GED IN THOSE THREE BRANCHES I DO SUPPORT I SUPPORT THE POOL AS I THINK THAT'S NUMBER FOUR. SORRY, I'M GETTING MY PAGES HERE. YES, THE PLEASANT OAKS POOL, BUT BOTH FOUR AND FIVE, I BELIEVE, TAKE FROM THE PARKS AND RECREATION SECURITY PROGRAM. MR. O'CONNOR, DIRECTOR O'CONNOR, COULD YOU COME UP REAL QUICK AND. SO I THINK WITH THESE TWO TOGETHER, IF I HAVE THIS RIGHT, IT WOULD BE $69,649 HIT TO THE [04:25:07] $600,000 BUDGET ITEM. THAT SEEMS LIKE A BIG HIT. AND YES, MA'AM. SO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO TO CLARIFY THAT ONE MORE TIME. AND I'M NOT SURE I WAS TOTALLY CLEAR EARLIER, BUT WE IN THE PARK SYSTEM, EVERY SINGLE YEAR, WE SPEND HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, PERHAPS UP TO A MILLION IN SOME CASES ON SECURITY CAMERAS. AND AS I WAS DESCRIBING EARLIER, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH DPD TO GET 50 CAMERAS NEXT BUDGET YEAR AT NO COST TO US. SO THAT REPRESENTS A VERY SIGNIFICANT SAVINGS TO US FOR NEXT BUDGET YEAR. AND SO WE WOULD PROPOSE USING SOME OF THOSE SAVINGS TOWARDS THESE EXPENSES. SO WHERE'S THE SAVINGS THAT YOU'RE NOT PURCHASING CAMERAS. YES MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THE 600,000 IS NOT JUST FOR LIKE OVERTIME HOURS FOR DPD OFFICERS TO PATROL PARKS, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM. SO TWO SEPARATE POTS. WE SPENT ABOUT 600,000 IN DPD OVERTIME TO HELP POOLS AND THINGS OF THAT. BUT WE ALSO HAVE SEPARATE FUNDING TO ACQUIRE CAMERAS. AND SO THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. AND SO THESE DOLLARS ARE COMING OUT OF THAT FUND, NOT THE THE ACTUAL PATROL. I MISSPOKE EARLIER, AND YES, THAT'S THE CLARIFICATION, RIGHT? THAT'S JUST VERY IMPORTANT BECAUSE I KNOW I HAVE PARKS WHO ABSOLUTELY NEED THOSE PATROLS. YES, MA'AM. SO WE CAN'T GIVE UP ON THAT. AND AGAIN, IF I COULD CLARIFY JUST ONE MORE TIME. SO WE AS AS MOST OF YOU ALL KNOW, WE HAVE A THREE TIERED APPROACH IN SECURITY IN THE PARK SYSTEM. DPD OBVIOUSLY IS THE IS THE PRIMARY ENTITY, BUT YOU ALSO HAVE MARSHALS AND RANGERS. AND THEN OVERLAID ON TOP OF THAT, WE HAVE LIGHTS AND CAMERAS AND ALL THE THINGS. IN ADDITION TO ALL OF THAT, WE DO USE OFF DUTY DPD FOR, FOR BIG EVENTS OR IF WE IF WE HAVE HOT SPOTS, YOU KNOW, AT A, AT A POOL, FOR INSTANCE. SO THAT'S ANOTHER KIND OF SEPARATE BUCKET. THAT'S A PART OF THE OVERALL SECURITY STRATEGY FOR THE PARK SYSTEM. I UNDERSTAND, THOUGH, THAT THE MARSHALS MARSHALS ARE ONLY 73% STAFFED RIGHT NOW. YES, MA'AM. THAT'S CORRECT. SO BECAUSE WE WERE IT'S A LONG STORY. I WON'T GO INTO WHAT WE NEED MARSHALS FOR, BUT THEY WERE NOT AVAILABLE TO HELP WITH THAT. SO WE'RE HAVING TO ACTUALLY USE DPD OFFICERS. YEAH. SO WE'RE DOWN TO, I BELIEVE IT'S SIX MARSHALS AND WE'RE FUNDED AT 26 MARSHALS FOR PARKS. YES, MA'AM. OKAY. OKAY. WELL, THAT'S A BUDGET REVISION JUST BLOSSOMED RIGHT THERE. OKAY. SORRY. SO THAT WAS FOUR AND FIVE. THAT COVERS THAT. MY QUESTION ABOUT THAT. SIX I DO SUPPORT I KNOW I BELIEVE OUR OFFICE OF INSPECTOR GENERAL NEEDS THIS ADDITIONAL SUPPORT. BUT THEN I ACTUALLY DO NOT SUPPORT REVISION SEVEN. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. YOU SAID ON SEVEN. NO, I SAID NO. YES. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN MORENO YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR. CITY MANAGER, THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION AND TRACKING YOUR TEAM FOR GETTING THIS OVER TO US. I KNOW THAT WE HAD TILL MONDAY AT MIDDAY TO SUBMIT OUR REQUEST OR SOME OF THE THE CHANGES THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. AND YOU'VE HAD A NUMBER OF TOWN HALLS, YOU AND YOUR TEAM BETWEEN THEN AND NOW. AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU ALL WORKING AROUND THE CLOCK. FIRST ITEM NUMBER ONE, REVISION NUMBER ONE IS, YOU KNOW, THIS ONE'S TOUGH BECAUSE THERE WERE BOTH ITEMS ARE TRYING TO HELP OUR ANIMALS BUT NOT SUPPORTIVE OF IT AT THIS TIME. WE MENTIONED THE PARKING GARAGE THAT CITY OWNED. DO WE FUND THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THAT GARAGE? DO WE PAY FOR THE SECURITY OR PERSONNEL? NO SIR, WE DO NOT. OKAY. THANK YOU. AGAIN, YOU KNOW, I THINK THE ZOO IS AN ECONOMIC ENGINE AS WELL. IT BRINGS PEOPLE TO OUR CITY. SO WE'D LIKE TO SEE POSSIBLY ANOTHER SOURCE FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY WHEN IT COMES TO THE COURTS AND THE ANIMALS THAT WE HAVE TO CARE FOR DURING THOSE COURT CASES, IS THERE ANY OPPORTUNITIES TO GET DOLLARS BACK OR CHARGE FOR THOSE SERVICES? THE DIRECTOR IS ON HIS WAY OUT. FOR THE ONES THAT HAVE COURT HOLDS. WAS THE QUESTION IN REGARD TO RESTITUTION FOR CRUELTY VICTIMS? YES, THERE IS A REQUIREMENT FOR RESTITUTION. HOWEVER, WITH SOME OF THESE CASES, GETTING THAT RESTITUTION IS FAR AND FEW BETWEEN. [04:30:04] WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TO TRY TO GET THOSE BACK. WELL, IT IS PART OF THE COURT ORDER, BUT IT'S PROBABLY ENFORCEABLE BY DPD, NOT DAS. OKAY. I THINK THAT'S AN OPPORTUNITY. CITY MANAGER FOR US TO TRY TO DO A BETTER JOB IN RECOUPING THOSE DOLLARS. REVISION NUMBER TWO. YOU KNOW, WHAT I KEEP HEARING AT OUR TOWN HALLS IS CUTTING CONSULTANTS. THAT'S THE AREA THAT I HEAR THE MOST OF. AND SO THIS ONE IS, IN ESSENCE, A CONSULTANT FOR OUR LEGISLATIVE SESSION. WE CAN SPEAK TO OUR DIRECTOR OF LEGISLATIVE. ERIC. AND HOW DO YOU PLAN TO WORK DURING THIS SESSION IF YOU DO NOT HAVE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES OR HELP? YES. THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE QUESTION. ERIC DOMINGUEZ, OFFICE OF GOVERNOR AFFAIRS. AND SO FOR THE CITY TO POSITION ITSELF WITHIN THIS UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION, IT WOULD BE DIFFICULT WITHOUT HAVING THE BOOTS ON THE GROUND. HOWEVER, IT'S BEING A POLICY DECISION. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR RECOMMENDATION ON SEEING IF THIS ISSUE IS A PRIORITY OR NOT. OKAY. AND THEN CAN I GET CLARITY? JACK ON REDUCED 78,000 FROM DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND ELIMINATE ONE VACANT, PARTIALLY FUNDED ASSISTANT DIRECTOR. YES, SIR. THAT WAS A POSITION IN THE ADMINISTRATIVE AREAS OF THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT. AND THAT POSITION IS CURRENTLY VACANT. THEY ONLY FUNDED IT FOR PART OF THE YEAR NEXT YEAR. IT'S A NON UNIFORM POSITION. AND SO WE HAVE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT NOT FILLING THAT POSITION AND FREEING UP THOSE DOLLARS, THAT $78,000 TO PUT TOWARDS THIS. AND MISS TOLBERT. YES. I WAS GOING TO JUST ADD TO THAT. SO THERE WAS A POSITION THAT WAS USED TO SUPPORT THEIR THEIR NEED TO ELEVATE KIND OF THE BUSINESS MANAGER BUDGET PERSON. AND SO WE DID THAT. SO THIS IS A POSITION THAT THAT PERSON ACTUALLY USED TO, USED TO SIT IN THAT HAS BEEN VACANT, THAT WE HAD ALREADY TAKEN PARTIAL FUNDING FOR. SO IT WOULD NOT BE ANY INTERRUPTION OR AN IMPACT ON THE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. THANK YOU. REVISION THREE. CITY MANAGER YOU SPOKE OF TRYING TO FIND A PARTNER OR SOMEONE TO TAKE OVER THESE SERVICES. BUT I THINK THERE MIGHT BE AN ISSUE IN THE GAP BETWEEN TODAY AND GETTING SOMEONE THERE. OR IS THAT SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN OVERNIGHT? SO WE HAVE ALREADY BEGUN THE CONVERSATIONS. AND IN FACT, WE WOULD BE WORKING ON GETTING AN ILA IN PLACE TO BE ABLE TO MOVE THAT FORWARD. THE ONE THING TOO, AND I DID MENTION THIS EARLIER WHEN THIS ITEM CAME UP, IS THAT WE'VE ALSO TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ANY OF OUR EXISTING STAFF INDIVIDUALS. THERE'S BEEN SOME DISCUSSION ABOUT THEM ACTUALLY BEING ENGAGED AND POTENTIALLY HIRED FOR ANY OF THE STAFF THAT WE WOULD BE IMPACTING TO BE ABLE TO GO AND STILL PROVIDE THAT LEVEL OF SERVICE UNDER ONE OF THOSE PARTNERSHIPS. AND SO THE WORK IS ALREADY DONE. I WANT TO THANK THE STAFF FOR BEFORE WE EVEN PUT THIS INTO THE BUDGET, THEY STARTED THOSE CONVERSATIONS, AND SO WE WOULDN'T BE STARTING THAT FROM SCRATCH. THAT'S ALREADY HAPPENED. AND WE'RE EXCITED THAT IF COUNCIL SUPPORTS THIS, THAT WE WOULD BE ABLE TO ANNOUNCE AND BE ABLE TO MOVE THOSE PARTNERSHIPS FORWARD. SO WE'VE ALREADY HAD THE CONVERSATION WITH WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS. WE'VE ALSO HAD THE CONVERSATIONS ALREADY. AND THE WORK STARTED WITH DALLAS COLLEGE. SO BOTH THANK YOU REVISION FOR I MEAN, COMMUNITY POOLS PLACE SUCH A IMPORTANT ROLE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. BUT I ALSO KNOW THAT WE HAVE A AN AGING INFRASTRUCTURE THERE. HAVE WE EXPLORED OPPORTUNITIES RATHER THAN KEEPING THE CENTER OR THE POOL OPEN AND ADDING SCHOLARSHIPS AS A WAY TO KEEP THOSE COMMUNITY MEMBERS WHERE THEY HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO A NEARBY POOL AT A FREE OR REDUCED RATE. I KNOW THAT OVER AT WYLER THIS SEASON, THAT POOL HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS. AND WE DID A, AN INCENTIVE TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO UTILIZE THE POOL. DID WE EXPLORE ANY SCHOLARSHIP OR REDUCED RATE OPPORTUNITIES? SIR, YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. WE DID. WE DID OFFER DISCOUNTS TO THE FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITY ALONG WITH JC AND GLENDALE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT IS SOMETHING WE CAN WE CAN CERTAINLY CONSIDER, BUT AS A PRACTICE, YOU KNOW, [04:35:02] IF WE'RE GOING TO BE CLOSING SOMETHING, WE DO TRY TO OFFER INCENTIVES FOR THOSE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY THAT HAVE BEEN IMPACTED TO UTILIZE ONE OF OUR OTHER FACILITIES. AND IF THAT INVOLVES A DISCOUNTED RATE, THAT'S SOMETHING WE WOULD DEFINITELY CONSIDER. OKAY. WHEN IT COMES TO THE REDUCING OF FUNDING ON PARKS AND RECREATION SECURITY PROGRAM I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF THIS AT ALL. I THINK THAT REGARDLESS THAT DPD OVER TIME WOULD BE NEEDED NO MATTER WHAT. AND SO WE WOULD BE FACED WITH AN EVEN BIGGER OVERTIME BUDGET AT THE END OF THE YEAR. AND THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR THIS ROUND. THANK YOU MAYOR. CHAIRMAN. DID YOU LET YOUR TIME EXPIRE? OKAY, MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WITH REGARD TO REVISION ONE I'M AGAINST TAKING AWAY THE 500 000 FROM THE ZOO. AND I'M NOT CLEAR AS TO WHAT $500,000 FOR FOR DHS WOULD BE REALLY USED FOR OR WHETHER THAT'S A CORRECT OR SUFFICIENT OR, OR OVER AMOUNT FOR, FOR THE NEEDS THAT THEY HAVE. SO IF THEY DO HAVE SOME NEEDS, THEY NEED TO FIND THAT MONEY AND PROVIDE THE SERVICES THEY NEED AND HAVE A JUSTIFICATION FOR THE AMOUNT. THE ZOO IS VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK WE NEED TO ENCOURAGE AND WE NEED TO CREATE AN INCENTIVE FOR, FOR THESE KIND OF, OF INSTITUTIONS THAT ARE REALLY ADDING TREMENDOUS VALUE TO OUR, TO OUR ECONOMY, TO OUR, BUDGET GENERALLY, AND THEY NEED TO BE VALUED. NUMBER TWO, I THINK WE DO NEED TO HIRE SOME LOBBYISTS TO PROMOTE OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA. NUMBER THREE. I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO ENCOURAGE THE MANAGEMENT TO CONTINUE THEIR EFFORTS TO OUTSOURCE THESE, THESE NEEDS, NOT TO ELIMINATE THE NEEDS, BUT TO FIND A A PARTNER THAT COULD PROVIDE THOSE, THOSE NEEDS THROUGH PARTNERSHIPS. NUMBER FOUR AND FIVE, I THINK IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE ON THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO REALLOCATE MONEY WITHIN THEIR BUDGET TO SATISFY THOSE TWO THINGS. NUMBER SIX, I WOULD NOT ENCOURAGE FUNDING THE THE AMOUNT REQUESTED BY INSPECTOR GENERAL AT THIS PARTICULAR TIME. I THINK IT'S AT THEY'RE STILL IN THE PROCESS OF OF DEVELOPING THEIR PROGRAMS AND DEVELOPING THEIR STRATEGIES. AND I'M CERTAINLY OPPOSED TO REDUCING THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL FUNDING. AND I'M, I WOULD LIKE TO ALLOCATE THESE OTHER YOUTH COMMISSION TRAVEL AND ZEN CITY MONIES TO OTHER PROGRAMS. IF THE INSPECTOR GENERAL DOES NEED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDING, I'D LIKE TO EVALUATE MAYBE A JUSTIFICATION FOR SOME MAYBE LESSER AMOUNT UNDER NUMBER SEVEN. I, I DO NOT THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE IN THE EVICTION ADVOCACY BUSINESS, ALTHOUGH IF WE DO FEEL LIKE THAT'S A CORE SERVICE, IF WE FEEL LIKE THAT IS A POTENTIAL SAVINGS IN FUTURE HOMELESS SITUATIONS, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE MAYBE TRY TO LOCATE THE FUNDS THROUGH ANOTHER DEPARTMENT AND REALLOCATE FUNDS, PERHAPS FROM THE JUDICIARY DEPARTMENT, THAT MIGHT HAVE THE ABILITY TO ASSIST IN THAT. I WOULD ALSO SUGGEST THAT THE FUNDING FOR INSPECTOR GENERAL MIGHT ALSO COME FROM JUDICIARY. THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS ON THOSE. ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY MAYOR, TO DISCUSS OTHER BUDGET ITEMS TODAY? OR IS THIS ARE WE LIMITED TODAY JUST TO TO THIS PARTICULAR ITEMS? I BELIEVE THAT. WELL, I'LL LET THE CITY MANAGERS SPEAK TO PART OF THIS. I MEAN, I THINK WE'RE STILL WORKING OUT EXACTLY HOW THIS IS GOING TO UNFOLD TODAY. BUT I'LL LET. SINCE IT'S KIND OF A NEW DEAL. BUT GO AHEAD. CITY MANAGER YOUR INTENTIONS WERE. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. OUR INTENTION WAS TO REALLY ADDRESS SOME OF THE INITIAL FEEDBACK, WHICH IS KIND OF WHY WE BROUGHT THIS AS A ADDITIONAL STEP. WE WILL BE SENDING OUT COMMUNICATION WITH THE APPROPRIATE FORMS ON FRIDAY FOR COUNCIL MEMBERS TO SUBMIT ANYTHING ADDITIONAL THAT WE DID NOT COVER IN THIS INITIAL CONVERSATION TODAY. SO THIS WAS REALLY ABOUT MANAGEMENT RESPONDING TO SOME OF THE REQUESTS, NOT NECESSARILY SAYING THAT YOU CANNOT SUBMIT OTHERS. AND SO THERE WILL BE ANOTHER STEP TO THIS. AND WE HAVE A BUDGET WORKSHOP SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY. OKAY. I JUST WANT TO, I JUST WANT TO. YES, SIR. UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR NEXT ROUND OF OF THINGS SO WE CAN BE PREPARED FOR FOR QUESTIONS. [04:40:07] YES, SIR. AND REALLY GETTING MORE INFORMATION TO HELP CRAFT THE BUDGET AND. YES, SIR. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR JACK. WITH REGARD TO REVISION NUMBER ONE, ARE WE NOT INCREASING FORENSIC VETERINARY SERVICES FOR ANIMAL CRUELTY BY 278,000 AND INCREASING BY 500,000 TO SUPPORT THE CRUELTY RESPONSE, AND PAUL'S ON HIS WAY OUT TO TO HELP WITH YOUR QUESTIONS, SIR. THAT IS WHAT WAS IN THE PROPOSED BUDGET. THE 500,000 WAS TO ADDRESS THE CAPACITY ISSUES AS IT RELATES TO THE INCREASE IN CAPACITY. AND THE 278,000 WAS FOR THE VETERINARY FORENSIC SERVICES. THESE THINGS ALLOW DPD TO PROSECUTE THESE CASES. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS WHOLE PROCESS AND THIS PROPOSED BUDGET INCREASES DASS DAS BUDGET BY A TOTAL OF 1.4 MILLION. CORRECT. IF YOU IF YOU WANT TO INCLUDE WHAT WAS ALREADY PROPOSED AND WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED TODAY. WELL, NOT NOT INCLUDING WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY. I'M SAYING THE CITY MANAGER'S BUDGET INCLUDES AN INCREASE FOR THE DAS BUDGET OF 1.4 MILLION AT A TIME WHEN EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT IS BEING CUT BY AT LEAST 3%. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND SO THE MAJOR BUDGET ITEMS THAT MR. RAMON IS REFERRING TO INCLUDES 500,000 FOR ADDITIONAL CAPACITY AND TO SUPPORT ANIMAL CRUELTY. THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL 278,000 FOR VETERINARIAN SERVICES ASSOCIATED WITH SUSPECTED ANIMAL CRUELTY. SO TO YOUR POINT, THE BUDGET DOES INCLUDE ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THANK YOU. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING, NUMBER ONE. THERE'S BEEN NO INDICATION OF WHAT THE 500,000 WOULD BE NEEDED FOR OR ANY METRICS TO SUPPORT THE NEED FOR IT. WE'VE ALREADY ACCEPTED THIS DEPARTMENT OUT FROM ALL OF THE OTHER CUTS THAT THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE SUFFERING, AND GIVING THEM A MILLION FOR INCREASE. I DON'T SEE THAT IT JUSTIFIES TAKING 500,000 FROM THE ZOO'S MANAGEMENT FEE IN ORDER TO ADD EVEN MORE MONEY TO DAS. I THINK THAT'S JUST A WRONG ALLOCATION OF PRIORITIES. REVISION NUMBER TWO. THIS IS A CRITICAL NEED. WE'RE GOING TO BE LEFT BEHIND IN THE LEGISLATURE IF WE DON'T FUND OUR OUTSIDE LOBBYISTS. ITEM NUMBER THREE. QUESTION FOR OUR DIRECTOR. DO YOU SEE A PATH FORWARD TO A FULLY VOLUNTEER CORPS OF TEACHERS FOR THESE KINDS OF COURSES? THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. COUNCILMEMBER RIDLEY, LIBRARY DIRECTOR. I THINK THERE IS A STRONG CASE TO BE MADE FOR VOLUNTEERS OFFERING THIS SERVICE, HOWEVER, THEY NEED TO BE MANAGED, SO I WOULD NEED STAFF TO MANAGE THE VOLUNTEER PROGRAM. WELL, YOU TALK OR AT LEAST THIS SLIDE SIX TALKS ABOUT UTILIZING PARTNERS TO LEAD PROGRAMING AND PARTNERING WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS, WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND DALLAS COLLEGE. COULD THEY NOT PROVIDE THE SUPERVISION FOR VOLUNTEERS? THE PROGRAM THAT DALLAS COLLEGE AND WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS IS PROPOSING TO OFFER IS NOT A 100% SUBSTITUTE FOR WHAT WE OFFER NOW. THEY WILL NOT BE COMING IN AND OFFERING 100 CLASSES A WEEK, FOR EXAMPLE. THEY ARE REALLY THINKING ABOUT TARGETING THE FLAGSHIP LIBRARIES WITH SOME ESL AND GED CLASSES, AS WELL AS PRAIRIE CREEK, BECAUSE WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THE HIGH NUMBERS AT THE PRAIRIE CREEK LIBRARY, WHETHER OR NOT THEY EMPLOY VOLUNTEERS, I THINK IS A BUSINESS DECISION FOR THEM TO MAKE, NOT FOR FOR US TO MANAGE GOING FORWARD. WELL, HAVE YOU HAD ANY CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM ABOUT THEIR INTEREST IN UTILIZING OUR VOLUNTEERS GOING FORWARD? I HAVE NOT, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO TAKE THAT TO THEM. I THINK THAT WOULD BE WORTHWHILE, DON'T YOU? SURE. GREAT. AND WITH REGARD TO THE GED TEST CENTER AT THE CENTRAL LIBRARY, WHAT IS THE COST OF RUNNING THAT? [04:45:10] I MIGHT HAVE TO GET YOU NUMBERS. WE DO WORK WITH PEARSON, WHICH IS THE GROUP THAT ADMINISTERS THE COMPANY THAT ADMINISTERS THE TEST. SO I'M NOT QUITE CLEAR IF THERE'S THERE'S MONEY THAT WE SPEND THERE. AND WE ALSO HAVE SPECIAL COMPUTERS. SO I DON'T KNOW THOSE COSTS. I CAN PROBABLY GET THOSE FOR YOU. BUT THOSE THAT TESTING CENTER IS RUN BY EXISTING ADULT LEARNING STAFF. AND THEN SOME OF THE VOUCHERS ARE FUNDED THROUGH PRIVATE PHILANTHROPIC DOLLARS THROUGH THE FRIENDS OF THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY. SO COULDN'T THAT FUNCTION BE TRANSFERRED TO DALLAS COLLEGE, THE EL CENTRO CAMPUS, NEARBY? IN TALKING IN TALKING TO OUR POTENTIAL PARTNERS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THERE ARE LIMITED TESTING CENTERS AVAILABLE IN THE CITY AND THAT THEY CURRENTLY REFER STUDENTS TO US FOR TESTING BECAUSE PEARSON HAS SUCH STRINGENT RULES AROUND THE COMPUTERS. SO, FOR EXAMPLE, THEY ARE NOT CONNECTED TO THE WIDER INTERNET BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT PEOPLE SEARCHING FOR ANSWERS. SO YOU CAN'T JUST STAND IT UP ON ANY COMPUTER. SO WHETHER I DON'T THINK THEY'RE AT THIS TIME PREPARED TO TAKE OVER THE TESTING CENTERS THROUGH THE CONVERSATIONS THAT WE'VE HAD. BUT THERE ARE OTHER EXISTING TESTING CENTERS NOW. I DON'T HAVE THE ANSWER TO THAT. I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST ONE. BUT MY UNDERSTANDING FROM OUR PARTNERS IS THAT THEY ARE EXTREMELY LIMITED AND THAT'S WHY THEY SEND PEOPLE TO US. REVISION NUMBER FOUR. COULD I HAVE PARKS COME OUT AGAIN? COUNCIL MEMBER CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE CITY MANAGER. LET ME BACK UP REAL QUICK. BACK TO THE DALLAS COLLEGE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS PARTNERSHIP. SO THIS IS AN ONGOING CONVERSATION WITH BOTH OF THOSE INSTITUTIONS. THEY, THEY HAVE AGREED TO PARTNER WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE'RE STILL MAPPING OUT EVERYTHING AS IT RELATES TO THE ASPECTS OF WHAT THEY'RE GOING TO, TO COVER, BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO, TO PARTNER WITH US. SO WE'RE STILL MAPPING OUT THE WHOLE G D CONVERSATION AS WELL AS TESTING CONVERSATIONS AS WELL. THEY ASKED FOR SOME DATA ON HOW MANY CONSTITUENTS THAT WE SERVE AT CERTAIN LOCATIONS. SO WE'RE STILL MAPPING OUT THAT AND STILL FINALIZING THAT, BUT THEY HAVE AGREED TO PARTNER. SO WE WILL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION. WE WILL CONTINUE TO BUILD THIS PARTNERSHIP GOING FORWARD TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COVERING THE ASPECTS OF THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS. GREAT, GREAT. I COMMEND YOU FOR THAT EFFORT. SO, MR. O'CONNOR. OKAY. SO, MR. O'CONNOR EARLIER THIS YEAR, DIDN'T THE PARK BOARD RECOMMEND OR MAKE A DECISION TO CLOSE ALL NINE COMMUNITY POOLS BECAUSE THEY WERE SO OLD THAT THE EQUIPMENT WAS NO LONGER PATCHABLE AND THEY ALL HAD TO BE SUNSETTED. YES, SIR. THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO WHAT ACTUALLY HAPPENED WAS THERE WAS GOING TO BE A PHASED DECOMMISSIONING, THERE WAS GOING TO BE THREE PER YEAR, BUT AS A AS A BUDGET AMENDMENT LAST FISCAL YEAR, THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR THE GENERAL FUND DOLLARS ASSOCIATED WITH COMMUNITY POOLS WAS SWITCHED TO ONE TIME FUNDS. SO THERE ARE NO CONTINUING DOLLARS TO OPERATE THOSE POOLS RIGHT AFTER THIS CURRENT FISCAL YEAR. YEAH. THAT'S BASICALLY WHAT I SAID. YEAH. SO WHY SHOULD WE SUBSTITUTE OUR PRIORITIZATION OF WHICH POOLS TO CLOSE AND WHICH YEAR FOR THAT OF THE PARK BOARD, WHICH KNOWS THESE FACILITIES BETTER THAN WE DO? WELL, I MEAN, AGAIN, THE ANSWER TO THE QUESTION IS THERE WILL BE NO COMMUNITY POOLS OPEN NEXT YEAR UNLESS THERE'S A BUDGET AMENDMENT TO RESTORE FUNDING TO A PARTICULAR COMMUNITY POOL. OH, OKAY. SO NEXT FISCAL YEAR WILL BE THE THIRD YEAR OF THE CYCLE. WELL, SO IT WAS JUST THE SECOND. SO WE CLOSED. THERE WERE THREE COMMUNITY POOLS THAT WERE CLOSED THIS SUMMER. SO THERE WERE SIX THAT WERE REMAINING TO BE CLOSED. BUT THE ACTION THAT WAS TAKEN AT THE COUNCIL SWITCHED THE FUNDING TO ONE TIME FUNDS. THERE WILL BE NO POOLS OPEN NEXT FISCAL YEAR. OH, OKAY. SO COMMUNITY POOLS WILL CLOSE NEXT YEAR? YES, SIR. THAT'S CORRECT. BUT JUST COMMUNITY POOLS, NOT THE NINE AQUATIC CENTER. I UNDERSTAND, BUT THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, A COMMUNITY POOL. SO IT WAS MENTIONED THAT THERE IS 2024 BOND MONEY FOR THIS POOL. WHY WOULD WE HAVE BOND MONEY FOR A POOL THAT WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE? WELL, THE BOND MONEY SPECIFICALLY, THERE WAS $1 MILLION FOR PLEASANT OAKS POOL. THERE'S ALSO $3 MILLION FOR A SPRAYGROUND THAT DIDN'T HAVE A DEFINED SITE. SO WE INTEND TO WORK WITH MAYOR PRO TEM TO POTENTIALLY REPROGRAM THAT, THAT PROJECT INTO AND BUILD A BUDGET TO CONSTRUCT A NEW COMMUNITY POOL. WELL, IS IT EVEN FEASIBLE TO KEEP THIS POOL OPEN NEXT YEAR GIVEN THE CONDITION AND THE AGE? [04:50:02] AS WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT IN THE PAST, THESE, THESE POOLS ARE PRECARIOUS AND IT'S, AND IT'S REALLY HARD TO SAY, GIVEN THEIR CONDITION, WHETHER THEY WILL BE ABLE TO OPERATE ANOTHER YEAR. IT'S AN UNKNOWN. SO IT'S HARD TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION WITH A LOT OF CERTAINTY. WELL, AND THAT'S UNCERTAINTY IS WHY I THINK IT'S A BAD IDEA TO PUT MORE MONEY INTO AN AGING POOL TO KEEP IT, ATTEMPT TO KEEP IT OPEN FOR ANOTHER YEAR, AND INSTEAD WOULD RECOMMEND THAT YOU LOOK AT SOME ALTERNATIVE, NEWER FACILITY LIKE THE SPRAY PARK. REVISION FIVE THIS IS OF SUCH A SMALL DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT I DON'T KNOW WHY WE'RE SPENDING ANY MONEY OR EVEN ANY TIME CONSIDERING IT, BUT IT JUST SEEMS FAIR THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO 3% ACROSS THE BOARD CUTS IN EVERYBODY'S BUDGET, THERE IS NO REASON TO ACCEPT THESE TWO, GIVEN THE SMALL AMOUNTS. REVISION SIX I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH SOME OF THE FUNDING SOURCE FOR THIS. WE'VE ALREADY GOTTEN A BUDGET FOR THE OIG AND I'D LIKE TO KNOW JUST WHY THEY NEED THIS ADDITIONAL 114,000 OVER AND ABOVE THE AMOUNT REQUESTED IN THE BUDGET. AND FINALLY REVISION SEVEN. WE ALREADY SPEND OR HAVE BUDGETED 500,000 FROM TWO DISTRICTS FOR ARPA MONEY TO BE SPENT ON EVICTION ADVOCACY. I THINK WE NEED TO LEVERAGE DALLAS COUNTY FUNDS FOR THIS PROGRAM. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME, SIR. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO GO THROUGH MY ITEMS FOR REVISION NUMBER ONE. YES, FOR DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES. WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF PUBLIC SAFETY BRIEFINGS THAT HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE INCREASE IN THE NUMBER OF CASES THE DIVERSITY OF THE ANIMALS THAT THEY ARE CARING FOR AND ALSO THE EXTENDED LENGTH OF TIME BEFORE THE TRIAL. AND I'LL JUST SAY THESE ARE GOD'S CREATURES AND SADLY HAVE ALREADY BEEN ABUSED. SO I AM VERY MUCH FOR THIS AND IT SEEMS RECIPROCAL TO ACTUALLY TAKE IT FROM THE ZOO. SO NUMBER ONE. YES. NUMBER TWO. MY QUESTION ON THIS ONE, THIS BODY HAS ALREADY UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TO NOT HAVE LOBBYISTS UNANIMOUSLY. SO NOT SURE WHY PEOPLE ARE CHANGING THEIR MIND NOW. I'M NOT IN SUPPORT OF IT FOR MULTIPLE REASONS. BUT NUMBER ONE, THIS HAS BEEN EXTREMELY WELL RECEIVED IN AUSTIN AND EXTREMELY WELL RECEIVED BY THE PEOPLE WE TALKED TO WHO SAY YOU NOW HAVE A DIRECT LINE. YOU DID WHAT WE ASKED YOU TO DO. WE WILL WORK WITH YOU. AND BY THE WAY, WE HAVEN'T LOVED YOUR LOBBYISTS. NUMBER TWO IS I'M DEFINITELY OPPOSED TO TAKING FUNDING FROM DPD. NO. AND MY NEXT QUESTION IS ABOUT THIS IDEA TO ELIMINATE THE SURVEYS FROM ZEN CITY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER PLACES IN THE BUDGET WHERE SURVEYING CAN BE DONE? SO I'LL ANSWER, AND THEN I CAN SEE THE CHIEF OF STAFF COMING UP. SO THIS IS NOT THE ANNUAL COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE'VE BEEN CONDUCTING FOR. OH NO. I KNOW WHAT THIS IS. YES, THE COMMUNITY SURVEY. WE SHOULD KEEP EVERYTHING ELSE WE SHOULD GET RID OF. IS THERE ANY OTHER PLACE BESIDES THE ONE THAT YOU'RE PROPOSING WHERE THERE ARE ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR SURVEYS? NOT THAT I'M AWARE OF, BUT WE CAN FOLLOW UP AND ADD THAT TO THE Q AND A THAT WE SEND OUT. WOULD IT BE APPROPRIATE IF IT CAME OUT OF COMMUNICATIONS? SO IF I COULD JUST JUMP IN FOR JUST A SECOND. THIS CONTRACT, ALTHOUGH IT SITS IN I'D ITS IT'S ACTUALLY TO SUPPORT THIS SERVICE THAT'S IN COMMUNICATIONS. SO ELIMINATING THIS ACTUALLY PULLS IT AWAY FROM COMMS. IT JUST SITS IN ITS BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE A STATEMENT FROM THIS COUNCIL THAT INSTRUCTS YOU. WE WANT NO MORE SURVEYS EXCEPT THE ONE COMMUNITY SURVEY. THESE SURVEYS HAVE CAUSED A LOT OF CHAOS. NUMBER THREE. REVISION NUMBER THREE. LET'S SEE. THIS IS ABOUT THE LIBRARY ADULT LEARNING. I AM IN SUPPORT OF YOUR MANAGEMENT RESPONSE, WHICH IS USING NONPROFITS AND EDUCATION PROFESSIONAL PARTNERS TO ACTUALLY PROVIDE NECESSARY LITERACY TRAINING, TESTING, ALL OF THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE A RESTORATION OF LIBRARY FUNDING SO THAT ALL OF OUR LIBRARIES CAN BE OPEN SIX DAYS A WEEK. OUR RESIDENTS DESERVE ACCESS TO THE LIBRARIES THAT THEY BUILT, AND THEY USE BOTH AS EDUCATIONAL PLEASURE AND COMMUNITY [04:55:06] CENTERS. SO I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT ACTUALLY, FOR THE OTHER THING, WE ALREADY HAVE A VERY ROBUST LITERACY NONPROFIT SECTOR AS WELL AS EDUCATIONAL INSTITUTIONS. DALLAS HAS FABULOUS PARTNERS. AND THEN, OF COURSE, WE'RE HEARING TEXAS WORKFORCE AS WELL. NUMBER FOUR, THIS IS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POOLS. OH MY GOD, I CAN'T BELIEVE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THIS AGAIN. SO 12 YEARS AGO, JOHN, I'D LOVE TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, IF YOU DON'T MIND. COMING UP. 12 YEARS AGO, THE MASTER PLAN RECOMMENDED CLOSING ALL OF THE COMMUNITY POOLS. BUT HERE WE ARE STILL TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY POOLS. SO CAN YOU TELL US HOW OLD IS THIS PARTICULAR POOL? THIS IS FOR THE PLEASANT OAKS. OH, WAIT, YOU DIDN'T STOP MY TIME. YEAH, I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I WANT TO SAY THAT ONE. IT RINGS LIKE IT MAY BE 19. IS IT 1958 OR. 1958. SO A 70 YEAR OLD POOL. WHAT'S THE LIFESPAN OF A POOL? WELL, THESE COMMUNITY POOLS THE LIFESPAN WAS PROBABLY ABOUT 30, 20, 30 YEARS AGO. HAVE YOU HAD TO SPEND ANY DOLLARS REPAIRING THE POOLS? OH, ALL OUR COMMUNITY POOLS. ALL THE COMMUNITY POOLS. WE HAVE TO SPEND MONEY BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT RELIABLE. GOOD EXAMPLE IS COUNCIL MEMBER GAY DONNELL WILLIS WALNUT HILL THIS YEAR, UP TO THE VERY LAST SECOND TO TRY TO GET THAT POOL UP AND RUNNING. THEY'RE VERY UNPREDICTABLE, AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THE PUBLIC, AS WELL AS ANY COUNCIL MEMBER UNDERSTAND IF THEY STAY OPEN, DO UNDERSTAND THERE WILL BE A RISK WHERE THEY CAN SHUT DOWN AT ANY GIVEN TIME, OR WE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO KEEP THEM FUNCTIONAL FOR THAT OPERATION. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THAT'S PUBLICLY SAID, BECAUSE I KNOW THE PRESSURE YOU ALL ARE UNDER. ONCE THOSE POOLS OPEN AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO OPEN THOSE. AND THEN JUST TO VERIFY, THERE WAS A SPLASH PAD PUT IN. RIGHT? YES. IN THIS COMMUNITY. OKAY. THANK YOU. REVISION NUMBER FIVE. THIS IS ABOUT THE AUDUBON AND CEDAR RIDGE. AND I'M JUST GOING TO SAY THESE ARE SMALL AMOUNTS. AND IF WE NEED TO KEEP THEM IN FOR THE ONE YEAR BEFORE WE SAY NO MORE. I DO UNDERSTAND A SMALL NONPROFIT AND HOW THIS IMPACTS IT, BUT I HAVE TO SAY, I DON'T AGREE WITH THIS SOURCE. WE SHOULD NOT BE TAKING AWAY FROM SECURITY IN OUR PARKS AND TRAILS. AND AND I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW, ARE YOU NOT GETTING THE SAME CALLS I AM? I HAD TO USE DISCRETIONARY MONEY TO BUY CAMERAS FOR MY PARKS. SO WE NEED TO HAVE SECURITY IN OUR PARKS AND REC CENTERS. SO I WOULD JUST SUGGEST TO MANAGEMENT THAT THIS SHOULD REALLY COME OUT OF THE COUNCIL BUDGET. THE MAYOR AND COUNCIL BUDGET. ITEM SIX. THIS IS FOR THE INSPECTOR GENERAL. YES. THIS IS NEEDED. THIS IS A CORE I SUPPORT TAKING IT FROM THE SURVEYS, THE YOUTH COMMISSION TRAVEL. NOT ONLY DO I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT THING, I ACTUALLY DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE A YOUTH COMMISSION. I'M SORRY FOLKS. I KNOW THE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON IT LOVE IT, BUT THEY REALLY HAVEN'T ADDED ANYTHING. WE'VE NEVER ACTUALLY ACTED ON A SINGLE RECOMMENDATION. I'M NOT SURE IF THEY'VE HAD THEM. IT'S A GREAT RESUME ITEM FOR 12 FOR 15 KIDS. SO I ACTUALLY THINK WE OUGHT TO ELIMINATE THAT ENTIRE THING AND TAKING MORE MONEY OUT OF MCC. I DON'T KNOW WHY WE HAVE THREE SUPPORT STAFF. WE SHOULDN'T. ITEM NUMBER SEVEN. AND THIS IS FOR THE EVICTION ADVOCACY. THIS IS A FUNDAMENTAL THING WHICH IS THE CITY IS NOT IN CHARGE OF FUNDING ALL OF THE NONPROFITS IN OUR CITY. WE'RE JUST NOT. AND WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT AND LIVE BY IT. I KNOW, BUT SHE TOOK SOME OF MY MINUTES. SO WITH THAT, THAT MESSAGE NEEDS TO GO OUT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ON THE LAST ONE. THE LAST ONE WAS, I THINK WHAT YOU WHAT YOU SAID WAS CORRECT. AND I SUPPORT WHAT YOU. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. SAID MR. BAZALDUA. IS HE NOT HERE? OKAY, WELL WE'LL COME BACK TO IT. MR. MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR MISS SHAW. WE'LL GET HER OUT HERE. YEAH. GIVE US JUST A SECOND. YOU DIDN'T EVEN TAKE ME A SECOND TO ASK THAT QUESTION. I JUST I KNOW I'M JUST JOKING. TOTALLY JOKING. MY APOLOGIES. NO PROBLEM. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU. DO WE KNOW WITH WITH CERTAINTY WHO IS GOING TO PROVIDE THE REPLACEMENT SERVICE? [05:00:07] SO I DON'T WANT TO CALL IT A REPLACEMENT SERVICE BECAUSE IT IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. THEY ARE OFFERING THEIR PROGRAMS THAT THEY CURRENTLY OFFER IN SOME OF OUR LOCATIONS, AND THAT WOULD BE THE CONSORTIUM THAT INCLUDES DALLAS COLLEGE WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND THE WILKINSON CENTER. AND SO WE ARE IT'S ALREADY LINED UP. DO WE KNOW WHEN IT WILL BEGIN? I WOULDN'T SAY WE ARE IN CONVERSATION WITH THEM. WE HAVE HAD WEEKLY MEETINGS NOW FOR GOING ON TWO MONTHS AND WE ARE PLANNING. SO I CAN'T GIVE YOU A START DATE AT THIS TIME BECAUSE WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIGURE IT ALL OUT. AND DO WE KNOW WHERE IT WILL BE PROVIDED? WHAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THEM ARE THE FIVE FLAGSHIPS PLUS PRAIRIE CREEK LIBRARY. AND DO WE KNOW WHAT DOCUMENTATION OR ELIGIBILITY REQUIREMENTS THE RESIDENTS WILL HAVE TO SATISFY? YES, SIR. BECAUSE ALL THREE OF THOSE ENTITIES RECEIVE FEDERAL AND STATE FUNDING, THEY ARE REQUIRED TO ASK THEIR STUDENTS TO PROVE THAT THEY HAVE A LEGAL RIGHT TO WORK IN THE UNITED STATES. OKAY, SO THERE'S STILL ACCESS ISSUES WITH. THAT IS THERE THAT IS THERE REQUIREMENT. OKAY, SO MAYOR PRO TEM, IT'S AHMAD GHAURI, CHIEF OF STAFF TO THE CITY MANAGER. I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT ALTHOUGH THERE ARE DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS FOR THOSE PARTNERS, WE DO HAVE NONPROFIT PARTNERS THAT WE WILL REFER TO THAT DON'T HAVE THOSE TYPE OF BARRIERS. BUT AGAIN, DO WE HAVE THAT CERTAINTY OF WHO AND WHEN. SO WE'RE STILL FINALIZING THESE PARTNERSHIPS. SO DALLAS COLLEGE HAS GIVEN US THE ABILITY TO GO AHEAD AND ANNOUNCE THAT THAT POTENTIAL PARTNERSHIP, THAT PARTNERSHIP. SO WE'RE STILL FINALIZING WHAT THAT'S GOING TO LOOK LIKE AS IT RELATES TO OUR NONPROFIT INSTITUTIONS THAT WE WILL REFER TO WHEN THOSE IDENTIFICATION BARRIERS EXIST. OKAY. AND I APPRECIATE YOUR EFFORTS. YOU KNOW, I'M NOT TRYING TO TALK BAD ABOUT IT, BUT BUT THE LACK OF CERTAINTY IS WHAT WHAT CONCERNS ME. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I SUBMITTED A MEMORANDUM EARLIER THIS WEEK SPECIFICALLY ASKING THAT WE PRESERVE THE ENGLISH LANGUAGE LEARNING CLASSES AT THE THREE LIBRARY LOCATIONS WITH THE HIGHEST DOCUMENTED UTILIZATION OF THOSE CLASSES. BUT I WANT TO PUT THAT REQUEST IN A BROADER CONTEXT, BECAUSE WHAT CONCERNS ME ABOUT THE BUDGET PROPOSAL GOES BEYOND ELL CLASSES. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ADULT LEARNING SERVICES THAT HELP DALLAS RESIDENTS WORK TOWARD A GED, LEARN ENGLISH, AND ACQUIRE SKILLS THAT CAN HELP THEM BECOME MORE ECONOMICALLY SECURE AND SELF-SUFFICIENT. AND THE PROGRAMS ARE BEING USED. THOUSANDS OF DALLAS RESIDENTS HAVE HAVE PARTICIPATED IN THE LIBRARY'S ADULT LEARNING PROGRAMS THIS YEAR. ACCORDING TO THE DALLAS PUBLIC LIBRARY'S WEBSITE, 9830 RESIDENTS HAVE PARTICIPATED IN ADULT LEARNING CLASSES THROUGH THE FIRST TWO QUARTERS OF 2026. SO THESE AREN'T PROGRAMS THAT ARE SITTING EMPTY, WAITING FOR SOMEBODY TO WALK THROUGH THE DOOR. THEY'RE SERVING PEOPLE WHO HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO IMPROVE THEIR EDUCATION, IMPROVE THEIR EMPLOYMENT OPPORTUNITIES, AND CREATE BETTER LIVES FOR THEMSELVES AND THEIR FAMILIES. AND THOSE ARE EXACTLY THE KINDS OF EFFORTS THAT I BELIEVE THE CITY SHOULD ENCOURAGE. I UNDERSTAND THE ARGUMENT BEING MADE BY STAFF. WE HAVE SIGNIFICANT BUDGET SHORTFALL. THESE ARE ORGANIZATIONS. THERE ARE ORGANIZATIONS IN DALLAS THAT PROVIDE THESE SERVICES. AND IF WE CAN PARTNER WITH THESE ORGANIZATIONS THAT HAVE EXPERTISE IN THIS AREA AND PROVIDE THE SAME OR BETTER SERVICES AT A LOWER COST, I'M OPEN TO THAT. BUT WHAT I'M NOT COMFORTABLE WITH IS ELIMINATING THE SERVICE FIRST AND FIGURING OUT THE REPLACEMENT LATER. BEFORE WE ELIMINATE THE PROGRAMS, I THINK WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO TELL RESIDENTS WHO CURRENTLY DEPEND ON THEM THE ANSWERS TO THE QUESTIONS THAT I THAT I JUST ASKED. I THINK THOSE ARE IMPORTANT DETAILS, AND ONE OF THE REASONS OUR LIBRARIES HAVE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN PROVIDING ADULT LEARNING ADULT EDUCATION IS THAT THEY'RE ACCESSIBLE. SO SIMPLY SAYING THAT ANOTHER ORGANIZATION OFFERS ADULT EDUCATION SOMEWHERE IN DALLAS DOESN'T NECESSARILY MEAN THAT WE'VE REPLACED THE SERVICE. AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALSO ASK OURSELVES A LARGER QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE BELIEVE THE ROLE OUR LIBRARIES SHOULD BE WHEN SOMEONE WALKS INTO ONE OF OUR LIBRARIES BECAUSE THEY WANT TO LEARN ENGLISH, EARN A GED, OR IMPROVE THEIR EMPLOYMENT PROSPECTS. THERE'S NOT A PERSON ASKING FOR A HANDOUT. IT'S A PERSON ASKING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO HELP THEMSELVES. AND SO I HAVE A HARD TIME SEEING THAT AS AN AREA. WE SHOULD BE EAGER TO RETREAT. AND THE TIME RUNS FAST WHEN YOU WHEN YOU GOT A LOT TO SAY. NO, I JUST WAIT FOR MY LAST ONE. BUT YOU KNOW, SO I JUST HOPE THAT THE CITY MANAGER WILL RECONSIDER AND IDENTIFY THE FUNDING NECESSARY TO CONTINUE THIS PROGRAM ON A LIMITED BASIS. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, CAN I JUST JUMP IN? AND I WANTED TO THANK THE MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THE COMMENTS. AND WE DEFINITELY KNOW THAT PARTNERSHIP BUILDING IS NOT OVERNIGHT. I HEAR YOU 100%. WHICH IS WHY WE WANTED TO AT LEAST TAKE THE OPPORTUNITY TO START. AND WE CAN DEFINITELY THINK THROUGH WAYS THAT EVEN IN A TRANSITION PERIOD, WHAT THAT MIGHT LOOK LIKE. BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS, WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THE SENSITIVITY AROUND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING ANYBODY OUT. AND WE DEFINITELY DON'T WANT TO DO THAT. AND SO I KNOW THAT OUR ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, WHO I TRIED TO YELL, [05:05:05] BUT SHE COULDN'T HEAR ME. SHE'S ACTUALLY BECAUSE OF HER EXPERIENCE AND COMING TO THE CITY IN THE FIRST PLACE TO START OUR WELCOMING COMMUNITIES PROGRAM, UNDERSTAND THE, THE SENTIMENT AND HAS MADE THIS A, A PIECE OF OF, OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT IT FROM A PRIORITY. AND SO I WANTED TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL LEGWORK OUTSIDE OF WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND DALLAS COLLEGE THAT SHE'S ACTUALLY LEADING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T HAVE THAT GAP. THANK YOU, CITY MANAGER LIZ CITY, ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER. AND THANK YOU, MAYOR PRO TEM, FOR YOUR MEMO. YOUR JOINT MEMO WITH COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. WE HAVE BEEN THINKING THROUGH THOSE ISSUES THAT YOU THAT YOU'RE FLAGGING CURRENTLY. AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT EVEN THOUGH WE'RE WE ARE DEVELOPING NEW MODELS FOR THIS PROGRAM THAT, AS YOU SAY, HAS BEEN VERY HIGHLY UTILIZED BY OUR RESIDENTS. WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER WAYS TO CONTINUE PROVIDING LOWER ACCESS, SO THERE'S NOT BARRIERS TO OUR RESIDENTS BEING INVOLVED IN CONVERSATION CLASS, ETC. AT LIBRARY BRANCHES WHERE WE KNOW THERE'S A HIGH ATTENDANCE RATE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT OUR DIRECTOR IS CURRENTLY WORKING ON WITH HER TEAM, AS WELL AS WITH OUR OUR FRIENDS GROUPS LOOKING FOR NEW PROGRAMING MODELS, LOOKING FOR NEW OPPORTUNITIES FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING STREAMS, ETC.. THIS IS A HIGHLY, HIGHLY, HIGHLY PRIORITIZED BY OUR LIBRARY TEAM. AND WE'RE HAVING THOSE OPEN DISCUSSIONS WITH OUR PARTNERS WHO OF COURSE, CREDENTIALED WORKING IN DALLAS COLLEGE, WORKING IN WORKFORCE SOLUTIONS AND THE AND THE NONPROFIT THAT DIRECTOR SHAW MENTIONED. BUT WE DO REALIZE THAT THAT THEY DO HAVE SOME, SOME REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE NOT THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE CURRENTLY NOT ACCUSTOMED TO. WE WANT TO BE VERY MINDFUL AND INTENTIONAL HOW WE'RE CREATING THE FULL SPECTRUM OF SERVICES SO THAT NO ONE IS LEFT BEHIND. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT RESPONSE. I KNOW, I KNOW, I KNOW YOU ALL CARE ABOUT THE NOT JUST THE CITIZENS OF THIS CITY, BUT ALL RESIDENTS OF OUR CITY. SO THANK YOU FOR YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU SIR. OKAY, I'M GOING TO GO TO CHAIRMAN MORENO FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO PICK BACK UP ON REVISION SEVEN. I DO SUPPORT DOING THE ADVOCACY EVICTION ADVOCACY PROGRAM. BUT I DO NOT WANT TO SEE THOSE DOLLARS COMING FROM SENIOR SERVICES OR COMMUNITY CENTERS. THE OTHER LISTED SOURCES I'M FINE WITH. AND THAT'S ALL I HAD. MR. MAYOR, IF I COULD JUST RESPOND TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. SO THIS IS NOT A REDUCTION OF ANY OF THOSE. WHAT THIS WAS MEANT TO SAY IS THAT THESE ARE THE FUNDING OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING IN THE BUDGET THAT WE WANTED TO FOCUS ON. SO IT'S NOT TAKING ANYTHING AWAY FROM EITHER OF THOSE SERVICES FOR THE EVICTION ADVOCACY. SO I'M SORRY THAT IT MIGHT BE A LITTLE BIT CONFUSING. SO IT'S NOT PULLING ANYTHING AWAY. GOT IT. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL. MAYOR. THANKS. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRMAN WEST RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT COMMUNITY POOLS. I NEED PARKS UP HERE, PLEASE. PROBABLY FEELS LIKE A YO YO BY THIS POINT. YES. WELCOME. THANK YOU. REMIND ME AGAIN, PLEASE. WHAT? THE MASTER PLAN. WHO CAME UP WITH THE MASTER PLAN AND WHY. THE MASTER PLAN INDICATED THAT THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SHOULD BE CLOSING THE COMMUNITY POOLS. YEAH. SO WHEN A WHEN THE MASTER PLAN WAS COMPLETED, I WANT TO SAY THAT WAS EITHER 2012 OR 2015. AND IT WENT THROUGH THE PROCESS NOT ONLY WITH THE BOARD, BUT IT ALSO CAME THROUGH THE COUNCIL AS WELL, BECAUSE IT TOOK US PROBABLY LIKE 15 YEARS TO GET THE MASTER PLAN APPROVED. NOW THAT MASTER PLAN, IT SAID YOU ALL NEED TO STRATEGICALLY PLACE THESE POOLS BECAUSE THEY'RE VERY EXPENSIVE TO OPERATE AND THEY HAVE LIVED THEIR LIFE. AND PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN IS THAT YOU NEED TO GO TO THESE MORE NEXT GENERATION TYPE POOLS. WHAT THEY CALL AQUATICS FACILITIES. AND SO IT SAID THEY STRATEGICALLY PLACED THEM THROUGHOUT THE CITY, MADE SURE THERE WAS COVERAGE. AND PART OF THAT MASTER PLAN SAID THAT ONCE THESE AQUATICS FACILITIES, THIS NEXT GENERATION TYPE POOLS THAT THE RESIDENTS WON'T. THEY RECOMMENDED THAT WE SHUT DOWN ALL THE COMMUNITY POOLS. OKAY, SO THE STUDY WAS COMMISSIONED AND COMPLETED BETWEEN 2012 AND 2015. YES. SO IT'S 11 YEARS OLD AT LEAST. DID THE STUDY [05:10:09] CONTEMPLATE THE FACT THAT LOWER INCOME INDIVIDUALS CAN'T ALWAYS TRAVEL TO A REGIONAL POOL ACROSS THE CITY? I THEY DID TAKE ALL THAT INTO CONSIDERATION. SO THE ANSWER IS YES. YOU KNOW, I GREW UP IN A, IN A TOWN THAT WAS 6200 PEOPLE VERY POOR. AND WE WERE ABLE TO FACILITATE A PUBLIC POOL. 6200 PEOPLE. AND I JUST LOOKED IT UP. THE POOL STILL OPEN TODAY. NOW, IT'S NOT A FANCY POOL, BUT IT'S A POOL. MY DISTRICT REPRESENTS 90 PLUS THOUSAND RESIDENTS AND THE MARTIN WEISS COMMUNITY POOL, WHICH IS THE ONLY ONE I CAN REALLY SPEAK TO BECAUSE THE ONLY ONE I KNOW IS THE ONLY POOL IN THE SOUTHWESTERN PART OF MY DISTRICT. AND I THINK IT'S THE ONLY POOL IN OAK CLIFF IN THAT PART OF OAK CLIFF. FIVE MILES AWAY FROM KID SPRINGS POOL. AND YOU KNOW WHAT? IT HAS ALMOST AS MUCH ATTENDANCE AT THIS COMMUNITY POOL WITH ALMOST NO AMENITIES AS THE KID SPRINGS AQUATIC CENTER, WHICH HAS GOT SLIDES AND SPRAY GROUNDS AND ALL THE COOL STUFF SHOWING ME THAT THERE IS A NEED FOR IT AND THAT THIS MASTER PLAN IS NOT. IT'S EITHER NOT ACCURATE OR IT'S OUTDATED OR BOTH. SO I JUST THINK WE NEED TO TAKE A LOOK AT A FRESH LOOK AT OUR COMMUNITY POOLS BECAUSE FOR ME, IT'S A LIFELINE FOR THE COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST AS IMPORTANT AS ANYTHING ELSE. WE AS A CITY HOST HERE, I DO AGREE THAT SOME NON-PROFITS SHOULD BE CONDUCTING SOME OF OUR, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS WE DO RIGHT NOW, 100% AGREE WITH THAT. BUT I BELIEVE. AS A BEDROCK OF THIS CITY, JUST LIKE WE SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY, JUST LIKE WE SUPPORT POLICE AND FIRE, JUST LIKE WE SUPPORT HAVING GREEN SPACE, WE HAVE A DUTY TO HAVE POOLS FOR PEOPLE TO SWIM IN, TO LEARN HOW TO SWIM. IF YOU TALK TO PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY, THEY LEARN HOW TO SWIM AT THE COMMUNITY POOL BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE PRIVATE POOLS AT THEIR HOMES. SO AND YOU'RE. YOU'RE EXACTLY RIGHT. THE AND I HAVE SPOKEN TO THE COUNCIL BEFORE, PROBABLY ABOUT 6 OR 8 MONTHS AGO. AND I MENTIONED THAT WE WAS, WE WAS UPDATING THAT AQUATICS MASTER PLAN BECAUSE JUST WHAT YOU SAID, IF IF IT'S GOING TO BE THE COUNCIL'S WILL WE KNOW WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO OPERATE THOSE OLD POOLS. AND SO WE HAD OUR CONSULTANT ONE. DO YOU STILL IS DO YOU STILL SUPPORT THE PREVIOUS OUTCOME THAT SAID, THIS IS WHERE THEY SHOULD BE. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO TAKE A STEP FURTHER. WE SAID, WE WANT YOU TO LOOK AT. CAN YOU DO A PROTOTYPE OF A NEW TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOOD POOL? BECAUSE THESE POOLS HAVE GOTTEN VERY EXPENSIVE TO BUILD THE NEW AQUATICS FACILITIES. AND SO WE DID HAVE THEM LOOK AT A PROTOTYPE. CAN YOU GET ME SOMETHING THAT'S AROUND THIS $5 MILLION RANGE? IT'S LESS TO OPERATE. AND SO THEY THEY CAME BACK WITH A PROTOTYPE. AND THAT'S THE TYPES THAT COUPLE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY SAID THEY'RE GOING TO REPROGRAM SOME OF THEIR BOND DOLLARS SO THEY CAN GET ONE OF THE. REPLACE ONE OF THOSE OLD POOLS WITH THE PROTOTYPE. COUNCIL MEMBER CADENA. I WANT TO SAY I HADN'T HAD COUNCIL. I MEAN, CHAIR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MAXIE JOHNSON. AND THERE'S ONE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER THAT'S REPROGRAMING FUNDS, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A CONVERSATION. COUNCILMAN WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER RESENDEZ ABOUT REPROGRAM SOME FUNDS TO TO DEVELOP A PROTOTYPE THAT COSTS MUCH LESS TO OPERATE AND DOESN'T COST MUCH CAPITAL TO BUILD, WHICH WOULD PROBABLY BE AROUND SIX, 6.5 MILLION. WELL, AND AS WE'VE SPOKEN, I THINK THAT'S GREAT. INCLUDE ME ON THAT LIST. AND AS WE HAVE SPOKEN PREVIOUSLY, I THINK, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE, THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR PRIVATE SPONSORSHIP, JUST LIKE WE'VE SEEN WITH THE OAK CLIFF SKATE PARK. AND, YOU KNOW, WE'VE HAD MATCHING DOLLARS COME IN FOR THAT. SO I SEE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY WITH YOUR HELP. BUT I THINK IT'S CRITICAL AND $100,000 TO KEEP THESE POOLS GOING FOR ANOTHER YEAR. IT SHOULD BE AN EASY ASK FOR CITY MANAGER. AND I WILL SAY, IF WE IF WE GO TO PROTOTYPE, I AM GOING TO HAVE TO PRICE THEM, YOU KNOW. YEAH, THAT'S A CURRENT BUDGET FOR IT, BUT I'M ABOUT TO PRICE THEM WHERE THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH GET COST RECOVERY. I JUST WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD. OKAY. WE'RE GOING TO CHAIRMAN GRACEY FOR THREE MINUTES. [05:15:06] THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND JUST REAL QUICK, I WANT TO THANK MAYOR PRO TEM RESENDEZ FOR FOR HOW HE FRAMED THIS. AGAIN, GOING BACK TO THE ADULT LEARNING PIECE. I JUST WANT TO STRESS THAT. AND HE SAID IT. SAID IT WELL. I GET TRYING TO IDENTIFY WHAT OUR CORE SERVICES ARE AND MAKING SURE WE'RE STICKING TO THE CORE AND USING PARTNERS TO DO THAT. BUT JUST BECAUSE THOSE PARTNERS EXIST, I WANT US TO MAKE SURE TO HIS POINT, MAKE SURE THAT THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE TRANSFERRING OVER ACTUALLY SERVE THE PURPOSE. AND IT'S NOT JUST A WE'RE DROPPING THEM OFF SAYING, OKAY, WE GOT THAT ONE TAKEN CARE OF. AND I KNOW THAT'S NOT THE CASE, BUT FOR SOME, THAT'S WHAT IT COULD FEEL LIKE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WHATEVER SERVICES WE ARE SENDING OVER AND RELYING ON NONPROFITS TO DO THAT, IT'S, IT'S STILL MEETING THE NEED. AND IT'S JUST NOT BY DEFINITION OR BY, BY TITLE. IT'S CALLED SOMETHING AND IT'S NOT MEETING THE NEED THERE. AND THAT'S IT. I THINK THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I'M A LITTLE BIT TRIGGERED BY THIS WHOLE POOL CONVERSATION. I THINK YOU SHOULD CHARGE US 20 BUCKS EVERY TIME WE BRING IT UP. AND MAYBE THAT'LL CLOSE THE NUMBERS. THE FACT IS THAT SOMEBODY COULD ALLOCATE MONEY TO TRY TO KEEP THE POOL OPEN FOR ONE MORE YEAR, WHICH HAS ALREADY HAPPENED THIS YEAR AND THE YEAR BEFORE. AND ON DAY ONE, THE POOL CAN BREAK DOWN AND NOT BE ABLE TO BE FIXED. ISN'T THAT CORRECT? THAT IS WHAT I HEARD THE PARK DEPARTMENT SAY. OKAY, WELL, IT WAS VERY NICE STORY. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. I ALSO LEARNED TO SWIM AT A COMMUNITY POOL. IT WAS NOT IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD, AND I THINK MANY PEOPLE DO. AND WE HAVE OVER $460 MILLION. I BELIEVE THAT GOES TO DART FOR TRANSPORTATION. AND MANY APARTMENTS HAVE POOLS. AND I WILL JUST AGAIN REMIND YOU, THERE ARE ZERO POOLS. AND I'M NOT SAYING COMMUNITY POOLS, AND I'M NOT SAYING AQUATIC CENTERS. I'M SAYING ZERO POOLS THAT THE CITY HAS IN ALL OF DISTRICT 12, WHICH HAS 97,000 RESIDENTS. WE ARE OVERPOPULATED COMPARED TO THE OTHER DISTRICTS, 14MI² WITH NO POOLS FOR THE CITY. SO I DON'T THINK IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK WHEN PEOPLE ALREADY HAVE OTHER POOLS IN THEIR DISTRICT, LET ALONE WATER PARKS AND OTHER THINGS THAT ARE AVAILABLE IN CERTAIN PARTS OF TOWN. AND BY THE WAY, THAT'S THE SOUTHERN PART OF TOWN THAT ARE ABSOLUTELY NOT AVAILABLE IN THE NORTH. THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT THE ROADS ARE WORSE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS THAN THEY ARE IN NORTH, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE OPPOSITE. THERE'S AN IDEA THAT THE FACILITIES ARE WORSE IN THE SOUTH THAN THEY ARE IN THE NORTH, BUT IT'S THE OPPOSITE. THERE'S POOLS, LIBRARIES, ALL OF THAT IN EXCESS IN THE SOUTH THAT ARE NOT AVAILABLE IN THE NORTH. AND SO ALL DAY LONG WE'VE HEARD ABOUT HOW EVERYBODY'S POOR DISTRICT DOESN'T HAVE THIS. WELL GUESS WHAT? WE DON'T HAVE A POOL IN DISTRICT 12 TO CLOSE DOWN. IT WAS NEVER EVEN BUILT. SO I JUST WANT TO GO BY THE PLAN THAT'S BEEN ADOPTED FOR MORE THAN A DECADE THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THE ENTIRE TIME I HAVE BEEN ON COUNCIL. I CAN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY HOURS OF MY LIFE I'VE HAD HER HEAR THIS DEBATE. SO NOT FOR KEEPING OPEN THE COMMUNITY POOLS. I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY SOMETHING ABOUT THIS ENTIRE DAY, WHICH IS WHEN WE ADOPTED THE CALENDAR MAYOR. I SPECIFICALLY ASKED TO HAVE A THIRD DAY FOR AMENDMENTS, BECAUSE WHAT HAPPENED LAST YEAR, IF I CAN REMIND YOU, IS YOU HAD THE FIRST DAY AND THE SECOND DAY WAS ADOPTION. AND IF YOU MADE YOUR AMENDMENT ON THE SECOND DAY, IT WAS LIKE, WHOA, THIS IS OUT OF NOWHERE ON THE LAST DAY. BUT IT WAS ONLY THE SECOND CHANCE. WE WERE SUPPOSED TO HAVE THREE CHANCES. AND INSTEAD WE GOT A MEMO INSTRUCTING US FOR A PROCESS THAT WE OWN. THAT PROCESS WAS USURPED FROM OUR RESPONSIBILITY, WHERE WE WERE TOLD WE WOULD ONLY BE ABLE TO PUT IN WHAT THE USE OF FUNDS WOULD BE, AND I DON'T APPRECIATE THAT AT ALL. ARE YOU ARE YOU READY, MR. BAZALDUA? YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR. IF JOHN. AND RYAN COULD COME. RIGHT NOW. RIGHT NOW. HI. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THERE MAY BE SOME FLEXIBILITY. AND I JUST WANT TO ASK IF YOU COULD GIVE ME SOME BETTER UNDERSTANDING ON HOW WE APPROPRIATE [05:20:02] FUNDS THAT ARE IN OUR MULTI YEAR FUNDS. YEAH. THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. BECAUSE I WANT TO, AS I, AS I CLEARED UP AT THE GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY MEETING AND ANY OTHER MEETING, I GET AN OPPORTUNITY ABOUT THESE MULTI YEAR FUNDS THAT EVERYBODY THINKS IS SOME SECRET FUND. THEY'RE NOT. FIRST ONE GOT STARTED WAY BACK IN, I WANT TO SAY 1920. AND THAT WAS FOR THE SAMUEL TRUSS. BUT THE FUNDS THAT YOU'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT IN PARTICULAR IS OUR MULTI YEAR FUNDS. THAT HAS ABOUT $15 MILLION IN IT. IT IS FUNDS THAT WERE SET UP BECAUSE WE WENT THROUGH SEVERAL BUDGETS OVER THE YEARS. SO WHEN WE WERE WHEN WE WOULD GET SOME MAJOR COMPONENT FAILING OR REC CENTER OR WE HAD A GYM FOR THAT BUCKLED AND COLLAPSED, OR IF I HAD SOME MAJOR REPAIR ON THE PARK, THERE WAS NO BUDGET FOR IT. AND SO BECAUSE THESE FUNCTIONS ARE FORWARD FACING PROVIDED TO THE CUSTOMER, THE THOUGHT WAS, HEY, YOU HAVE A FITNESS ROOM, YOU GOT TO KEEP THAT EQUIPMENT REPLACED ON A REGULAR BASIS. SO TAKE 25% OF THE FEES YOU CHARGE AND PUT THAT IN THE MULTI YEAR FUND. SO YES, THOSE MULTI YEAR FUNDS ARE VERY SPECIFIC TO MAKE SURE WE KEEP THE REC CENTERS, THE GOLF COURSES, THINGS THAT GENERATE REVENUES OR DON'T GENERATE REVENUES BECAUSE THESE ARE PUBLIC FACING OPERATIONS. I THINK IT'S SMART TO DO THAT, BECAUSE I CAN'T KEEP GOING TO THE BUDGET FOLKS AND SAY, IN THE MIDDLE OF THE BUDGET, I NEED $1 MILLION OR A $500,000 BECAUSE I HAD AN HVAC THAT JUST WENT OUT AND I NEED AT THAT TIME, IT WAS UP ON THE FREM. WE JUST TOOK HIM OVER IN JANUARY. THEN WE WOULD HAVE TO FUND THAT. SO I APPRECIATE THE EXPLANATION. NOW, CAN YOU POINT TO WHAT POLICY GUIDES YOU TO ALLOCATE THAT? YES. SO WE EVERY YEAR WE WORK THROUGH THE BUDGET OFFICE. IT'S THAT YOU ALL APPROVE WHAT WE CALL ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. SO EVERY YEAR THERE'S A CERTAIN APPROPRIATION THAT WE'RE APPROPRIATING. WE JUST BRIEFED THIS TO THE BOARD FOR BECAUSE WE'RE GOING THROUGH THE WHOLE SERIES OF ALL THE MULTIYEAR FUNDS, AND WE AND IT'S THROUGH ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. FOR EXAMPLE, YOU SEE $15 MILLION. WELL, WE PROBABLY SAY, HEY, WE NEED $3 MILLION. AND SO WE THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS, WE PUT THAT IN ADDITIONAL RESOURCES THAT SAYS, I KNOW I'M PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE TO REPLACE THREE GYM FLOORS THAT JUST BUCKLE AND THEY RUN ABOUT. BUT JOHN, YEAH, I'M ASKING WHAT POLICY HAS GUIDED THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO UTILIZE THE MULTIYEAR FUND IN THE WAY THAT YOU DESCRIBED IN MY FIRST QUESTION. YEAH. SO THERE'S A RESOLUTION THIS THIS PAST THERE'S A COUNCIL RESOLUTION THAT WENT FROM THE 80S. NO, THERE'S SEVERAL THERE'S SEVERAL RESOLUTION BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S DIFFERENT ONES. THERE'S THE GOLF ONE. OKAY. THERE'S THE RECREATION, BUT THAT'S NOT A BLANKET POLICY FOR ANY, ANY CHOICE OF A MULTIYEAR FUND. NO, IT'S NOT A BLANKET POLICY. NO RESTRICTIONS ON IT. AND SO I SEE MULTIYEAR FUNDS, EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE A GREAT PLAN FOR IT, I DON'T BELIEVE THAT I'VE SEEN ANY COUNCIL DIRECTION THAT HAS ALLOWED IT JUST TO STAY IN THE PARKING LOT FOR THE PARKS DEPARTMENT. WELL WHEN THOSE FUNDS WERE SET UP, THEY WENT THROUGH A PROCESS. I CAN'T SPEAK BECAUSE I WASN'T HERE, BUT WE FOLLOW A PROCESS AND I WILL PROVIDE YOU ALL THE SAME. I DIDN'T WE WAS COMING TO DT TO BRIEF THE SAME BRIEFINGS. BUT WE WOULD PROVIDE YOU ALL PUBLIC DOCUMENTS ON HOW WE THE PROCESS THAT'S UTILIZED. AND IF THE COUNCIL WANTS TO ESTABLISH A NEW PROCESS, I'M ALL FOR IT. WELL, WE SHOULDN'T HAVE TO SEARCH FOR THESE AND BRING IT TO YOUR ATTENTION IN ORDER TO GET THAT OPPORTUNITY IN A, IN A, IN A HARD BUDGET SEASON WHERE OUR CITY MANAGER HAD TO MAKE VERY CRITICAL CUTS. AND WE'RE SITTING HERE DEBATING PEOPLE'S HEARTSTRINGS, BEING PULLED ON, WANTING TO USE $500,000 FROM THE ZOO. MEANWHILE, Y'ALL COULD HAVE KEPT THE ZOO WHOLE AND ACCOMPLISHED WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT. WELL, YOU KNOW, COUNCILMAN, I'M NOT GOING TO AGREE WITH THAT. AND THE REASON BEING, I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO AGREE WITH IT. AND I'M NOT I'M HONESTLY NOT ASKING YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT. YEAH, BECAUSE THAT'S THE POINT OF THE COUNCIL. WE ARE THE PURSE STRINGS. WE SET THE POLICY AND WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS. THAT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT TRUE. OKAY. BECAUSE I HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FIND A POLICY ON THE BOOKS THAT HAS HAS GIVEN THE AUTHORITY TO THE PARKS DEPARTMENT TO HOLD ON TO ALMOST $10 MILLION IN A MULTIYEAR FUND THAT WE HAVE NO CONTROL OVER. AND MEANWHILE, IT'S UNFAIR TO OUR CITY MANAGER, THE PERSON WHO DOES REPORT TO US TO GET HER TO BALANCE A BUDGET, [05:25:05] AND WE'RE ASKING FOR ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS. WE'VE GOT THINGS THAT FALL UNDER YOUR JURISDICTION THAT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND $60,000 FOR, TO PREVENT A POOL FROM CLOSING FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT SHOULDN'T BE OUR JOB. AND IF WE ARE THE PURSE STRINGS, THERE'S NO ONE AT A DIRECTOR LEVEL IN THIS ORGANIZATION THAT SHOULD HAVE THE UNILATERAL AUTHORITY TO DECIDE WHERE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ARE GOING TO BE SPENT WITHOUT TALKING TO THIS COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MEMBER. ONCE AGAIN, WE'RE ONLY APPROPRIATE A CERTAIN DOLLAR AMOUNT. AND I WELCOME THE CONVERSATION WORKING THROUGH THE COUNCIL. WELL, WE'RE HAVING THE CONVERSATION NOW, AND I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LARGER POLICY DISCUSSION, THEN WE CAN HAVE THAT. BUT RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A BUDGET TO PASS IN A VERY SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, AND WE'VE GOT OUR HANDS TIED AND WE ARE MAKING CONCESSIONS LEFT AND RIGHT. I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO CUT THE DALLAS ZOO. I APPRECIATE WHAT THE DALLAS ZOO HAS DONE, BUT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE BEING PUT IN THE POSITION TO HAVE TO DO THAT. IF WE ARE LOOKING AT WITHIN THE PARKS DEPARTMENT SCRUTINIZING $500,000 IN A $14 MILLION STIPEND, INSTEAD OF SEEING THAT THERE'S STILL $6 MILLION SITTING ON THE PARKING LOT, THAT OUR CITY MANAGER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE ACCESS TO USE TO BALANCE THIS BUDGET. THIS IS JUST NOT BEEN VERY FAIR OR TRANSPARENT OF A PROCESS. AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE SUPPOSED TO RECTIFY. I'LL WAIT FOR MY NEXT ROUND. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MISS CADENA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. SEAN. RYAN, Y'ALL, I'M GLAD Y'ALL ARE STILL THERE. SO I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT THE SWIMMING POOLS THAT ARE CLOSING. IS THERE A PLAN TO, I GUESS, DECOMMISSION THE POOLS WHEN THEY'RE CLOSED? AND I ASK BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE AT ANITA MARTINEZ THAT CLOSED AND IT'S BEEN SITTING THERE FOR ABOUT EIGHT YEARS. YES, MA'AM. WE DO. AND IN FACT, WE WERE JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER TODAY. SO WE ARE CURRENTLY DEVISING A PLAN FOR THE, FOR THE COMMUNITY POOLS THAT WILL BE DECOMMISSIONED AND TAKEN OUT OF SERVICE TO ACTUALLY GET RID OF THEM AND RETURN THEM TO PARK SPACE. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT IS ACTIVELY BEING DEVELOPED RIGHT NOW. OKAY. AND THEN MY OTHER QUESTION IS NOT RELATED TO PARKS OR IT'S ACTUALLY ABOUT THE ESL CLASSES. SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK IN LISTENING TO EVERYBODY, I THINK WHAT EVERYBODY HAS CONCERN ABOUT IS JUST THAT IT SEEMS LIKE WE'RE BUILDING THE PLAN AS WE GO. AND I THINK AFTER LAST YEAR'S BUDGET PROGRAM, OR WHEN WE, WE PASSED THE BUDGET LAST YEAR, THERE WAS JUST SO MUCH THAT WE DIDN'T KNOW. AND SO IT GIVES ME A LOT OF ANXIETY TO COMPLETELY GET RID OF AN ESL PROGRAM THAT OUR COMMUNITY NEEDS SO MUCH. I KNOW MY BLACKMON AREA. WE HAVE SEVERAL NONPROFITS THAT DO PROVIDE ESL, BUT THE LIBRARY IS ALSO HEAVILY USED. AND SO I THINK IF I FELT AS IF THERE WAS A PLAN, I WOULD FEEL A LOT MORE COMFORTABLE MOVING FORWARD. AND THERE JUST FEELS LIKE A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY. SAME WITH ARCADIA. YOU KNOW, I KNOW THAT I, THE HOURS ARE GOING TO BE REDUCED AND I WAS TOLD THE MAJORITY OF THE PEOPLE THAT GO ARE STUDENTS, BUT THE OTHER HALF ARE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS. AND SO YOU KNOW, IT CONCERNS ME WHEN WE'RE REDUCING HOURS IN LOCAL FOR LOCAL, YOU KNOW, LOCAL LIBRARIES, JUST IN THE SAME WAY THAT IF WE'RE NOT PROVIDING SERVICES AT LOCAL PARKS AS WELL WHERE PEOPLE LIVE. SO THAT'S ALL I WANTED TO ADD. THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M GOING TO GO TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO THE AUDITOR TO COME TO THE TABLE, PLEASE. I'M RECALLED TO THE INTERIM CITY AUDITOR. HOW YOU DOING? DOING GOOD YOURSELF. GREAT. JUST GOT A QUESTION. I WAS LISTENING TO COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. WHEN YOU TALKING ABOUT THE MULTI-YEAR FUND? MY QUESTION IS, WAS POLICY FOLLOWED CONCERNING THE MONEY THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE GENERAL FUND? WAS THE POLICY FOLLOWED? NO, IT WAS NOT FOLLOWED. NO, THAT'S THE QUESTION I HAVE TO ASK. THANK YOU. I HAVE NO OTHER FURTHER QUESTIONS CONCERNING YOU. THAT'S THE PROBLEM THAT I HAVE, MR. MAYOR, THAT WE HAVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT'S BEEN TALKED ABOUT. AND AUDITOR DID AN AUDIT, AND NOW WE'RE FINDING THAT POLICY CLEARLY WAS NOT FOLLOWED. [05:30:05] IT WAS NOT FOLLOWED AND MONEY WAS ARBITRARILY PLACED IN A MULTI-YEAR FUND BASED OFF THE AUDITOR. IT WAS DISCUSSED IN OUR COACH MEETING, AND IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED PUBLICLY NOW. AND I AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA. IT IS SIMPLY UNFAIR TO THE CITY MANAGER AND TO THIS COUNCIL. THAT WE'RE NEEDING MONEY FOR PARKS. COUNCILMAN WAS TALKING ABOUT MONEY FOR POOL, YET WE GOT FUNDS THAT EXIST IN. THE AUDITOR SAID THAT POLICY HAS NOT BEEN FOLLOWED. YOU CAN'T IGNORE THAT. YOU ABSOLUTELY CAN'T IGNORE THAT. AND SO IT IS UP TO US TO DEAL WITH IT. AND THAT THAT'S AND IT'S BEEN DISCLOSED. I CALL, IN MY OPINION, DISCLOSED SLUSH FUND. AND IT'S A PROBLEM FOR ME. IT'S A PROBLEM FOR THIS COUNCIL. WE NEED ACCOUNTABILITY. AND BASED ON WHAT THE AUDITOR JUST SAID, THERE IS A LACK OF ACCOUNTABILITY AND THAT'S A PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. IF DIRECTOR JOHNSON AND DEPUTY DIRECTOR O'CONNOR COULD ALSO COULD JOIN US AS WELL AS THE INTERIM CITY AUDITOR. I THINK WE'VE GOT A TANGLE HERE AND WE'RE GOING TO SEE IF WE CAN'T UNTANGLE IT A BIT. Y'ALL Y'ALL DON'T LIKE EACH OTHER MUCH I'M TEASING. NO NO NO I'M TEASING. YOU'RE JUST. YOU'RE JUST FINE. YEAH. GOTCHA GOTCHA, GOTCHA. I MOVE NEXT TO ROY. WE ARE FINE. OKAY, I GOTTA GET GOING BECAUSE MY MY TIME'S CLICKING AWAY. OKAY, LET ME SAY MY FIRST AUDIT HERE WAS WITH JOHN. YEAH. AWESOME. OKAY. SO THIS IS CALLED A MULTI YEAR FUND, CORRECT. IS THAT ARE THERE OTHER MULTI YEAR FUNDS AND OTHER DEPARTMENTS. YES THERE ARE. CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT THOSE DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT. NOT RIGHT OFF THE TOP, NOT THE RIGHT TOP OF YOUR HEAD. BUT WE COULD GET. OKAY. I THINK WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE. PERHAPS IN IN MORE THAN JUST ONE DEPARTMENT, THE BUDGET BOOK WILL. FOR EACH OF THE POINT OF ORDER. MAYOR STATE YOUR POINT OF ORDER. THE ONLY REASON THAT I REFERENCED ANY AN EXAMPLE OF FUNDING WAS BECAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A SOURCE OF FUNDING IN THIS BUDGET. I WAS NOT TRYING TO START AN ENTIRE CONVERSATION OUTSIDE OF THE GERMANE TOPIC THAT WE WERE AGENDA FOR. WELL, THESE COULD BE OTHER SOURCES OF FUNDING. I'M GOING TO ALLOW HER TO CONTINUE, BUT WE'LL WE'LL BE MINDFUL. I'LL BE CAREFUL. I DON'T HAVE MUCH TIME ANYWAY. I'M SORRY, COULD YOU SPEAK UP THEN ON THE OTHER. WHAT I WAS GOING TO SAY IS IF YOU LOOK AT THE BUDGET BOOK FOR EACH OF THE DEPARTMENTS, THEY WILL HAVE WHAT'S CALLED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. THEY CALL IT ADDITIONAL RESOURCE. WHAT YOU SAW FOR JOHN, THEY'LL SAY MULTI YEAR FUND OR MULTI YEAR PURPOSE. AND SO THOSE WOULD BE HOW YOU COULD IDENTIFY FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENT OR OFFICE. ARE THERE RESTRICTIONS ON HOW THOSE FUNDS CAN BE USED. THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE RESTRICTIONS. CORRECT. THAT'S THE REASON WHY THEY CALL THE MULTI YEAR FUND. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE CALLED ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. BECAUSE WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FINANCIAL STATEMENTS OF THE CITY, THEY WOULD BE CALLED SPECIAL REVENUE OR SPECIAL FUND ACCOUNTS. THEY'RE SEPARATELY BROKEN OUT FROM THE GENERAL FUND. OKAY. AND THE SOURCE OF THE FUNDS, FOR EXAMPLE, I THINK WERE FEES THAT ARE PAID FROM GOLF COURSES AND REC CENTER FEES. SO DOES IT HAVE TO BE SPENT ON GOLF COURSES AND REC CENTERS? FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE CASE OF PARKS, THERE'S A SAMUEL TRUST. THAT TRUST WAS SET UP AND THEY SPECIFICALLY SAY CERTAIN AMOUNTS OF MONEY ARE TO GO TO THE SAMUEL PARK ITSELF. SO THAT'S HOW MOST OF THOSE MULTIYEAR FUNDS ARE SET UP. IT'S EITHER SOME DONOR HAS PUT A RESTRICTION ON IT, OR THERE'S A RESOLUTION BY CITY COUNCIL TO PUT A RESTRICTION ON IT. OKAY. SO IT'S A LITTLE COMPLEX. WE'VE GOT TRUST FUNDS, WE'VE GOT FEES PAID IN THERE AND RESTRICTIONS ON SOME, BUT PERHAPS NOT RESTRICTIONS ON OTHERS. IT'S A LITTLE COMPLICATED. YES. AND I DON'T KNOW THAT THE CITY MANAGER IS NOT HERE, BUT I JUST AM CURIOUS WHEN YOUR BUDGET WHEN WE'RE BUDGETING. WELL, HERE'S. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. [05:35:08] WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT SOURCES OF FUNDING FOR A BUDGET, DO YOU EVER LOOK AT THESE MULTIYEAR FUNDS OR TRUST FUNDS? IS THAT EVER A SOURCE FOR FUNDING? THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTION. AND SO THE WAY THAT IT HAS WORKED AND MAY NOT BE PERFECT IS THAT WE GIVE EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT AND I'LL USE THE PARKS DEPARTMENT AS THE EXAMPLE. THEY PARTICIPATE IN THE PROCESS. WE GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND TALK ABOUT THE WAYS THAT THEY'RE GOING TO INCREASE EFFICIENCIES WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT. THEY WILL MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS, BUT I HAVE NOT REACHED OFF INTO ANY OF THE MULTIYEAR FUNDS WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE MOST RECENTLY AS WE WERE LOOKING AT STABILIZING AND ENSURING THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO IMPACT HOURS OF OPERATIONS AT THE REC CENTERS. WE HEARD FROM THE COUNCIL THAT THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS CRITICAL AND THAT WAS IMPORTANT. AND SO AS WE APPROACHED LOOKING AT THAT PIECE WITHIN THE DEPARTMENT, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE WOULD NOT BE THOSE REDUCTIONS. WE KNOW THAT THAT IMPACTS OUR FAMILIES AND MANY THAT DEPEND ON THOSE PROGRAMS AFTER SCHOOL FOR THEIR CHILDREN THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. SO WE SAW A GAP THERE, AND WE KNEW THAT THAT GAP MEANT THAT WE HAD TO GO FIND OTHER REDUCTIONS. SO WE REACHED OVER INTO THAT MULTI YEAR FUND AS IT RELATES TO REC CENTER AND FEES, AND WE PULLED IT OVER. NOW, THAT PROBABLY DID NOT MAKE THE DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR VERY HAPPY BECAUSE I DIDN'T ASK FOR PERMISSION. I SAID THIS IS WHAT'S NEEDED. AND THEN HE SO KINDLY AGREED. BUT I DID NOT DO THAT ON MANY OTHER CASES. BUT WE SAW THE GAP. WE WERE TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE MAINTAINED THOSE HOURS, AND I DID NOT WANT TO THEN IMPACT OTHER THINGS IN THE DEPARTMENT THAT WOULD HAVE EVEN BEEN MORE DEVASTATING, LIKE REALLOCATION OF HOURS FOR THE AQUATIC CENTERS AND THE DIFFERENT WATER PARKS. WE DID NOT WANT TO TOUCH THOSE THINGS. SO THAT'S WHY WE MADE THAT ADJUSTMENT. SO IT HAS NOT BEEN OUR PRACTICE TO JUST DO THAT. BUT THIS YEAR, THAT IS THE ONE MULTI-YEAR FUND THAT I CAN TELL YOU THAT I REACHED INTO AND DID NOT ASK FOR PERMISSION TO DO IT. WELL, I HAVE TO SAY IT'S REASSURING, ACTUALLY, BECAUSE WE KNOW THOSE FUNDS ARE THERE AND WE KNOW SHE WAS IN A PINCH. AND EXACTLY WHAT I THINK MY COLLEAGUE WAS HOPING WOULD HAPPEN IN THIS SITUATION DID HAPPEN. AND YOU DID REACH INTO THAT MULTIYEAR FUND TO FILL A GAP. AND SO I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, WHERE DO WE GO FROM HERE? DO WE CONTINUE TO REACH INTO THOSE MULTIYEAR FUNDS? I MEAN, THOSE ARE QUESTIONS FOR YOU, CITY MANAGER, FOR STAFF AND FOR COUNCIL, PERHAPS TO ALL WEIGH IN ON, YOU KNOW, AND I WILL JUST TALK ABOUT. HISTORICALLY, I UNDERSTAND THE REASON AND THE PURPOSE OF THE MULTI YEAR FUNDS. AND I'LL TALK ABOUT JUST LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT THE GOLF CENTERS. IF THERE IS A MULTI YEAR FUND THAT'S SET UP OR THOSE FEES ARE GOING THERE, WELL, ANY TIME THEN THERE IS A NEED FOR SOMETHING THAT MIGHT BE A MAINTENANCE OR SOMETHING THAT WE DIDN'T NECESSARILY BUDGET FOR, THEN THEY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO BE ABLE TO THEN REACH IN THAT FUND TO BE ABLE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. SO I UNDERSTAND THE PURPOSE OF IT. I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT, IF THERE'S BEEN ANY POLICY DECISIONS OF THE COUNCIL AROUND WHEN, HOW AND CAN IT BE USED IN SITUATIONS WHERE WE KNOW THAT WE MIGHT BE DEALING WITH SOME BUDGET CHALLENGES. SO I DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT IF THAT'S ALREADY BEEN SOMETHING ACTED UPON BY THE PARK BOARD. I'VE NOT SEEN IT, BUT THAT COULD BE WHAT I COULD WORK WITH. DIRECTOR JENKINS ON. AND MAYBE WE DEVELOP SOME PARAMETERS AND SOME POLICY CONSIDERATIONS THAT WE COULD THEN BRING TO THE COUNCIL THAT YOU GUYS COULD WEIGH IN ON AND THEN GIVE US THAT DIRECTION. BUT AGAIN, I SEE THE PURPOSE, I UNDERSTAND IT AND I KNOW HOW IT'S BEEN USED HISTORICALLY. AND SO I DON'T THINK THAT MR. JENKINS WOULD OPPOSE TO US WORKING TOGETHER ON THAT. I THINK I'D JUST LIKE TO RECOMMEND THAT WE TAKE THESE OLD POOLS AND COME UP WITH A VERY SPECIFIC POLICY, POTENTIALLY USE SOME OF THESE MULTIYEAR FUNDS TO KEEP THEM OPEN ANOTHER YEAR OR WHATEVER, TO TAKE OUT THE OLD ONES THAT ARE SITTING THERE THAT ARE EMPTY. LET'S, LET'S WRAP THIS ONE UP, BECAUSE I KNOW YOU ALL ARE TIRED OF DEALING WITH THESE OLD POOLS. YOU AND I HAVE LOOKED AT EACH OTHER FROM ACROSS THESE TABLES AND WHATEVER, AND WE ARE ON THE SAME PAGE. I THINK IT'S TIME TO GET THIS WRAPPED UP. AND IF THE MULTI YEAR FUND COULD HELP DO THAT, PERHAPS THAT'S A GOOD SOURCE. IN ORDER TO GET THIS KIND OF RESOLVED ONCE AND FOR ALL, BECAUSE I DON'T IT'S THERE ARE OBVIOUSLY SOME CRITICAL LOCATIONS THAT NEED A POOL. AND WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE THAT OUT. THANK YOU, MAYOR JOHNSON. I WAS JUST GOING TO SAY THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN STEWART FOR THE QUESTIONS. AND I UNDERSTAND THE I UNDERSTAND KIND OF WHERE WHERE THIS CONVERSATION COMES FROM. [05:40:01] I THINK IT'S FROM A PLACE OF TRUE. LET'S DO IT TOGETHER. LET'S FIGURE THIS OUT. LET'S MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN LEVERAGE AND UTILIZE FUNDS THAT WE MIGHT BE PUSHING OFF FOR SOMETHING ELSE IN THESE TYPES OF YEARS, WHICH I, AGAIN, I THINK IT'S OUR NEW NORMAL. I DON'T THINK THIS IS JUST A SINGLE BUDGET YEAR. WE'VE GOT TO GET SOME SOME BETTER POLICY GUIDANCE, AND I CAN WORK WITH DIRECTOR JENKINS AND EVEN SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD TODAY. WE TAKE THAT AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO BACK AND EVEN WORK ON THOSE AND THEN COME BACK TO COUNCIL, AND MY COMMITMENT WOULD BE TO DO THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO GO TO MISS BLACKMON FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO ALONG THOSE LINES, HOW MUCH IS IN THE MULTIYEAR FUND? I'VE HEARD 14, I'VE HEARD TEN. I'VE HEARD SIX. SO I'M TRYING. YEAH. BUT FOR EXAMPLE, I MEAN, THIS IS ABOUT 15 MILLION. DID YOU LIKE 15 OR 50? 15? BECAUSE LIKE WHITE ROCK LAKE WHITE ROCK LAKE BEAUTIFICATION FUND THAT'S IN THE MULTI-YEAR FUND WHERE WE GET REVENUES FROM THE FILTER BUILDING AND THE REVENUES FROM RENTALS. AND IT GOES BACK INTO IMPROVEMENTS TO HELP WHITE ROCK LIKE WE USED FOR THE STUDY, FOR THE DREDGE PLAN, FOR THE DREDGING. SO THEN IF, IF IS IT USED FOR PLANNED MAINTENANCE OR MORE FOR LIKE AN EMERGENCY OPERATIONS? SO IT'S, IT'S A FOUR THING. WELL, IT'S. THREE IT IS TRULY, AS YOU MENTIONED, LIKE UNPLANNED MAINTENANCE, YOU KNOW, BREAKDOWNS, PLANNED IMPROVEMENTS, LIKE THE GOLF COURSES. AND IN SOME CASES, LIKE IN EARLIER YEARS WHEN WE HAD OUR BUDGET CUTS AND WE STARTED CHARGING FEES AT THE REC CENTER FOR CONTRACT FEE, I MEAN. SO THE ONLY WAY WE COULD HIRE STAFF, WE CHARGE FEES. AND THEN WE WAS ABLE TO PAY FOR THE STAFF TO PUT ON THE PROGRAM. AND SO WE HAD TO SET UP A MULTI-YEAR FUND THAT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO THAT. AND, AND WHAT SO I GUESS, DO YOU EVER BUDGET FOR THAT EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE THIS FUND TO PAY FOR THOSE? YEAH. SO SO WE GO, SO THIS COUNCIL OR A COUNCIL GIVES YOU MONEY TO DO IT, BUT YET YOU HAVE A FUND THAT YOU CAN TAP IN TO MAKE THOSE IT. IT'S MAINLY TRULY USED. I WOULD JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN WE WAS IN HARD TIMES AND BUDGET GOT CUT LIKE REDUCED HOURS. AND SO THE STAFF GOT CREATIVE AND SAID, LOOK, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO OFFER A PROGRAM WE DON'T HAVE ANY FUNDING FOR AFTER SCHOOL. WE CHARGE A NOMINAL FEE. WE CAN PAY FOR THE STAFF. SO I WAS JUST GIVING YOU AN EXAMPLE WHERE ON THE REC SIDE, THAT WAS LIKE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING ON A PROGRAM TO PAY FOR EXPENSES, BUT NO, ALL THE REST OF THEM, THEY THEY THEY THEY HAVE SPENDING PLANS, LIKE FOR THE REC CENTERS. WE KNOW THE FLOORS HAVE TO BE REPLACED EVERY SO MANY YEARS. THAT'S NOT IN OUR BUDGET. THAT'S NOT IN A IN A BOND PROGRAM. BECAUSE THOSE THINGS JUST POP UP. BUT YOU'RE NOT ASKING, BUT IT'S NOT BUDGETED IN YOUR DEPARTMENT, I GUESS BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IF IT'S THE USE IS FOR THIS TYPE OF MAINTENANCE, AND THEN YOU COME AND ASK US FOR THE MONEY. IT'S LIKE YOU KEPT THE MONEY THAT YOU HAD IT ORIGINALLY USED, YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO USE FOR. IT'S KIND OF LIKE MY KIDS DOUBLE DIPPING, YOU KNOW, THEY ASK ME FOR GAS AND THEY SAY, GIVE ME THE GAS CARD. MR. IRELAND CAN EXPLAIN. BUT WE WE GO THROUGH THE BUDGET PROCESS AND MR. RORY MENTIONED WE WE BUDGETED THROUGH THE ADDITIONAL RESOURCES. SO IF I COULD HELP MAYBE WITH THIS. JACK IRELAND CHIEF FINANCIAL OFFICER SO THE MULTI YEAR FUNDS RECEIVE APPROPRIATIONS. APPROPRIATIONS ARE ONLY APPROVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. YOU CANNOT SPEND WITHOUT APPROPRIATIONS, AND NO ONE CAN IMPROVE APPROPRIATIONS BUT THE CITY COUNCIL. SO IT DOES COME TO THE CITY COUNCIL AS PART OF THE BUDGET, AS MR. JENKINS EXPLAINED EARLIER. THEY REVIEW WHAT THEY THINK THEY MAY NEED IN THE UPCOMING YEAR, AND THEY INCLUDE THAT AS PART OF THEIR BUDGET, IN ADDITION TO THEIR GENERAL FUND REQUESTS. THEY ALSO HAVE REQUESTS FOR APPROPRIATIONS FROM SOME OF THESE VARIOUS FUNDS. THEY ARE APPROVED THROUGH THE BUDGET ORDINANCE. IF SOME THINGS CAME UP THAT WERE IN ADDITION TO THAT, THEY WILL BE INCLUDED IN THE MID-YEAR ADJUSTMENTS THAT WE DO. BUT ULTIMATELY, THESE FUNDS, AGAIN, BEFORE MR. JENKINS ARE WERE EITHER HERE, THESE FUNDS WERE ESTABLISHED PARTLY BECAUSE THEY WERE BEING GENERATED BY. RESIDENT FACING ACTIVITIES THAT CHARGE FEES, THE GOLF COURSES. AND SO THEY'RE THEY'RE NOT AN ENTERPRISE FUND, BUT THEY NEEDED A WAY TO TAKE CARE OF THEIR BUSINESS SO THEY COULD CONTINUE THEIR BUSINESS AND, AND GENERATE MORE REVENUE WITHOUT CONSTANTLY HAVING TO ASK AND FIGHT FOR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO DO THAT WITH. AND SO IT GAVE THEM A MECHANISM, A WAY TO SET ASIDE FUNDS FROM THE FEES, FROM THE REVENUES, TO THEN BE ABLE TO FIX THE FACILITIES. I GUESS, ASKED ANOTHER WAY, WHAT PART OF THE BUDGET OF YOUR PARKS BUDGET DOES MONEY [05:45:06] FROM THE THE MULTIYEAR FUNDS COME FROM? DO YOU HAVE ANY FUNDS BUDGETED FROM THAT? THOSE FUNDS TO PAY FOR ANY OF THE THINGS THAT'S SUPPOSED TO PAY FOR AND GO AHEAD? THE ANSWER WOULD BE BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS. SO I DO HAVE FUNDS BUDGET, BUT I DON'T HAVE ENOUGH FUNDS IN SOME CASES. OR THERE'S NO OR IT'S NOT. THAT WASN'T THE QUESTION. WHERE IN THE BUDGET IS YOU HAVE THIS MULTIYEAR FUND. ARE YOU TAKING ANY MONEY FROM THIS MULTIYEAR FUND AND IN USING IT FOR YOUR BUDGET. ANY OF THE 15 MILLION. YES. SO AND HOW AND WHAT IS THAT AND HOW MUCH? PAGE 345 OF THE BUDGET DOCUMENT FOR PARKING IT RIGHT HERE SHOWS ADDITIONAL RESOURCES BEING PROPOSED FOR THE 27 BUDGET AND THE 28 BUDGET FOR THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, AND YOU'LL SEE ZERO IN. 27 FOR CAPITAL GIFTS AND DONATIONS, BUT YOU'LL SEE 6 MILLION IN FISCAL YEAR 28. GO DOWN A FEW ROWS. YOU'LL SEE A LARGER AMOUNT FOR FAIR PARK. WE SET THEM UP AS A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO BE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND. I WOULD LOVE FOR FAIR PARK TO BE OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND, BUT IS THAT CONSIDERED A MULTIYEAR FUND? YES, IT'S A MULTIYEAR FUND. IT'S A SPECIAL REVENUE FUND. YOU'LL SEE SOME OTHER FUNDS. YOU'LL SEE THE GOLF IMPROVEMENT FUND FUND NUMBER THREE, THREE TWO. THEY'RE USING $512,000 IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR. WE'RE NOT WE'RE TRYING TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT THE OTHER FUNDS. THEY ARE LISTED IN THE BUDGET DOCUMENT. THEY ARE INCLUDED ON THE APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE THAT YOU WILL EVENTUALLY APPROVE FOR THE DEPARTMENT. OKAY. BUT IT SAYS 32.7 AS YOUR AS YOUR ADDITIONAL RESOURCES TOTAL. BUT WE JUST HAD 15 IN THE MULTIYEAR FUND. SO I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING. I'M TRYING TO JUST ISOLATE THE 15 MILLION THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT. HOW IS THAT USED? WELL, SOME OF THIS THAT'S LISTED IN THE FISCAL YEAR 27 COLUMN FOR $25 MILLION IS $18.8 MILLION FOR FAIR PARK. THAT IS BASED UPON THEIR PLANNED REVENUE GENERATION IN THIS UPCOMING YEAR. THERE'S MONEY COMING INTO THE FUNDS AS WELL AS GOING OUT OF THE FUNDS. SO $15 MILLION WAS A POINT IN TIME, I'M ASSUMING, AND THIS $25 MILLION THAT WE'RE ASKING TO APPROPRIATE NEXT YEAR INCLUDES NEARLY $19 MILLION FOR FAIR PARK. AGAIN, REVENUES COMING IN, REVENUES GOING OUT. AND SO IT'S BEING BUDGETED. IT'S BEING APPROPRIATED. YOU APPROPRIATE IT, GIVE THEM AUTHORITY TO SPEND IT. SO IS THE 15 THE SURPLUS IN THIS FUND. THERE'S MORE. IT'S MORE THAN ONE FUND. THEY HAVE SEVERAL, I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. SO THEN WHAT IS THE 15 THAT EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT? YES. SO THE 15 MILLION THERE'S KIND OF TWO REFERENCES. BUT REALLY WHAT IT IS, IT'S THE SUM OF OUR WHAT WE CALL OUR PROGRAM FUNDS. OKAY. THEY ARE A TYPE OF MULTIYEAR FUND. OUT OF THE 15 MILLION, 8 MILLION IS IN THE GOLF FUND. THE GOLF FUND IS WHAT WE USE TO MAKE COURSE IMPROVEMENTS, TO RESTORE GREENS, TO MAKE MODIFICATIONS TO THE PRO, TO THE PRO SHOPS, AND THINKING ABOUT THE REC PROGRAM FUNDS SPECIFICALLY, THAT HAS $3 MILLION OUT OF THE 15. AND THE WAY WE USE THAT, THAT IS FOR GYM FLOORS REPLACEMENTS. THAT IS FOR UNFORESEEN SITUATIONS WITH HVAC. THAT'S TO BUY NEW BLEACHERS FOR THE GYMS. THAT'S TO BUY FITNESS EQUIPMENT FOR THE FOR THE FITNESS CENTERS. SO THAT IS SPECIFICALLY HOW WE USE THOSE DOLLARS IS TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE THOSE BUILDINGS FUNCTIONAL AND CUSTOMER FACING FOR OUR PATRONS. OKAY. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, DOES DO YOU ASK FOR GENERAL FUND DOLLARS THAT THE FUND COULD PAY FOR FOR GYM FLOORS AND THINGS? THOSE THOSE JUST HAPPEN. SO SO THAT'S A YES. SO WE THESE ARE UNFORESEEN YES OR NO. I MEAN, IT'S A MAYBE I DON'T KNOW. NO. SO THE ANSWER IS NO. I MEAN SO SO THERE'S NO WE'RE NOT USING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO PAY FOR ANYTHING AT A REC CENTER. SO THE MULTI YEAR COULD PAY FOR SO, SO GENERAL FUND USES TO SUPPORT THE REC CENTERS. THE REC CENTER BUDGETS ARE AROUND 350 375,000 A YEAR. WHEN AN HVAC GOES OUT THAT COSTS $500,000. THERE'S NO BUDGET FOR THAT ALL THE TIME. WE HAVE TO TAP INTO THE MULTI YEAR FUND TO TRY TO REPLACE THAT HVAC. THAT'S HOW THAT FUND IS USED. SO THEN IF IT WAS PLANNED, THEN YOU WOULD COME THROUGH THE THE GENERAL FUND. IS THERE A REASON WHY YOU KEEP 15 MILLION? I'M JUST CURIOUS. WELL, THE REASON BECAUSE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE GOLF FUND. SO THE THE BIG CHUNK IS THE GOLF FUND. YOU SEE THE 8 MILLION. SO THAT'S THE 8 MILLION. THAT'S ALMOST HALF OF IT. BECAUSE NOT ONLY OUR GOLF, WHERE GOLF IS NORMALLY NOT FUNDED THROUGH BOND PROGRAMS AND IMPROVEMENTS TO THE GOLF COURSES. OKAY. AND SO IT WAS SINCE YOU'RE NOT GOING TO GET BOND FUNDS BECAUSE WE GOT ALL THESE OTHER THINGS FOR OUR GENERAL PARKS, THE IDEA WAS GENERATE ENOUGH REVENUES SO YOU CAN BUILD UP BECAUSE WE GOT SIX GOLF COURSES, [05:50:05] SO ABOUT ONCE EVERY 12 YEARS, AND IT TAKES THE FUND TO BUILD UP TO GET TO A RENOVATION, BECAUSE A RENOVATION IS GOING TO RUN ABOUT 4 TO $5 MILLION FOR EACH GOLF COURSE. AND SO THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS. WE ALLOW THIS FUND TO BUILD UP SO WE CAN GO DO THE RENOVATIONS AND KEEP THEM ALL COMPETITIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT'S IT FOR NOW. DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? I'M SORRY. YES. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMON FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. AND SO WHAT I WAS WHAT I WAS GOING TO SUGGEST, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AROUND THE MULTI YEAR THAT WE COULD PROVIDE WORKING WITH MR. JENKINS JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE DETAIL THAT REALLY TALKS ABOUT THE FUNDS, THE WAY THEY'VE BEEN UTILIZED AND GIVE YOU JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE OTHER THAN KIND OF THE BACK AND FORTH THAT WE'RE DOING TODAY. AND I THINK IT WOULD GIVE SOME EXAMPLES OF THE WAYS THAT THOSE FUNDS HAVE BEEN UTILIZED. THE ONLY REASON WHY I BROUGHT THIS EXAMPLE UP REGARDING THE REC CENTERS IS BECAUSE THAT WAS AN IMMEDIATE SITUATION. AS WE WERE LOOKING AT THE BUDGET, WE UNDERSTOOD TRYING TO MAINTAIN THOSE HOURS. AND I DID NOT WANT TO COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY, BY THE WAY, WE COULDN'T FIGURE THIS OUT. AND BECAUSE WE KNEW OF THE FUNDS, THAT'S WHAT WE USED. BUT I THINK WE CAN COME BACK AND MAYBE EVEN LOOK AT SOME OF THE THINGS HERE THAT COUNCIL HAS SAID IS A IS A PRIORITY. AND THEN WE CAN WORK WITH JOHN AND RYAN TO MAYBE JUST BRING YOU BACK A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY AND MAYBE SOME OTHER POTENTIAL WAYS THAT WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE REQUESTS THAT WE GOT IN THIS ORIGINAL SET OF, OF QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL. I HOPE THAT HELPS. I'M REALLY JUST TRYING TO GET US OUT OF THE SEAT RIGHT NOW. WELL, I MEAN I MEAN, I DON'T WANT TO AND FROM MY UNDERSTANDING THERE'S NOT A POLICY. SO MAYBE WE SHOULD CREATE A POLICY. YEAH. AND I UNDERSTAND WHERE YOU'RE COMING FROM, BUT I ALSO DON'T WANT TO NOT USE A FUND THAT IS INTENDED FOR ITS PURPOSE AND USE THE GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. I MEAN, USE THE MONEY AND ALSO GOLF. IT SHOULD BE MONETIZED. IN WEST TEXAS, WE'VE GOT SOME OF THE DRIEST LAND BUT THE PRETTIEST MUNI COURSES. IT CAN BE DONE. AND I'VE HAD A LOT OF GOLF PEOPLE CHIRP IN MY EAR ABOUT, YOU'RE NOT MONETIZING IT. SO YOU WANT TO FIGURE OUT THAT, AND THEN YOU CAN PROBABLY PAY FOR A LOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME AND ASK US FOR. YEAH, THAT'S JUST A THOUGHT. NEXT YEAR, I CAN TELL YOU, WE ALREADY SAID THAT ALL THE GOLF COURSES HAVE TO BE AN ENTERPRISE NEXT YEAR OR I WILL. THEY HAVE TO BE. THEY GOTTA OPERATE 100% FROM STRICTLY ALL REVENUES BECAUSE I CAN'T. THEN THEY LOBBY THE BODY AND IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN. WELL, I MEAN, WE'RE CLOSE BECAUSE WE'RE WE'RE AT SEVEN. WE GENERATE 7.3 MILLION RIGHT NOW. AND THE TOTAL COST OF OPERATING PLUS THE IMPROVEMENTS IS 8 MILLION. SO WE ONLY AND WE AND WE JUST PUT OUT A NEW CONTRACT. SO WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE THAT AWARE HOW MUCH A GOLF COURSE IS. SO ANYWAY THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. MISS BLAIR, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. YOU GUYS DON'T LEAVE. YOU. THEY START. SOMETHING WAS STARTED, AND NOW ALL OF US WANT A PIECE OF IT. AND I GUESS I WAS SLEEPING LAST YEAR. I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT MY POOL. TOMMY ALLEN IS SLATED TO CLOSE THIS YEAR. THAT. YOUR MULTI YEAR FUND AND YOUR AND YOUR ADDITIONAL RESOURCE THAT CAN WE HAVE A BREAKDOWN OF WHAT THEY ARE? I'M LOOKING AT YOUR PROGRAMS AND, AND ON PAGE 345. AND YOU, YOU STOPPED MISS BLACKMON AT MONETIZING YOUR GOLF COURSES. I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY YOU GUYS ARE THERE FOR FOUR HOURS, BUT YOU ARE. AND YOU GUYS DO A LOT OF THINGS ON THAT GOLF COURSE. THERE SHOULD BE A WAY THAT THAT COULD BE A SOURCE OF ENTERPRISE FUND AS OPPOSED TO A COST TO THE CITY. AND WHAT AND AS A MEMBER OF THE PARKS AND RECS, I WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO BRING THAT. OKAY. PUT IT ON AN AGENDA ITEM. BUT DO YOU GUYS HAVE ANY OTHER AREAS IN WHICH YOU CAN, YOU'RE BRINGING IN RESOURCES TO HELP GET, TO HELP US SAVE SOME OF THE RESOURCES WE NEED TO SAVE? YEAH. I COMMITTED AN ADDITIONAL OVER $3 MILLION IN ADDITIONAL REVENUES BECAUSE I FEEL LIKE THERE ARE SOME [05:55:07] OTHER OPPORTUNITIES FOR US TO OFFER SOME PROGRAMS THAT RESIDENTS WOULD LIKE FOR US TO OFFER AND WOULD BE WILLING TO PAY FOR IT WHILE WE'RE STILL PRESERVING OUR CORE PROGRAMS. YOU KNOW, OUR LOW COST OR NO COST PROGRAMS. WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS WHILE WE'RE WORKING AND WHAT I WOULD LIKE FOR AND PARKING IN OUR PARK AND REC COMMITTEE TO DO IS LOOK AT WAYS UNTIL YOU WE HAVE A, A WAY TO TRANSITION THE POOLS FROM ACTIVE TO NON ACTIVE THAT THEY STAY OPEN. YOU GUYS HAVE THE MONEY IN YOUR IN YOUR FUNDS AND I BELIEVE IN ORDER TO DO SO. OKAY, SO I BELIEVE FOR THE NEXT YEAR ALL OF OUR POOLS SHOULD BE ABLE TO STAY OPEN. WHAT IS IT, 600 000 THAT THAT YOU WOULD NEED IN ORDER TO DO SO WHILE WE THEN IN THE COMMITTEE LOOK FOR WAYS TO GENERATE AND MAKE PARK AND REC A MORE OF AN ENTERPRISE FUND OPPOSED TO A COST FACTOR FOR THE CITY. CAN CAN WE DO THAT? OR CAN WE LOOK? OR. I JUST WANT TO CLEAR UP ONE THING. ONE ANSWER YOUR FIRST QUESTION AS IT RELATES TO THE, THE POOLS THAT THE PRIMARY REASON WHY THE POOLS ARE, ARE BEING CLOSED IS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST NOT RELIABLE ANYMORE. IT'S NOT A MONEY ISSUE. THEY'RE NOT RELIABLE. THAT WAS NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, CAN THE PARK DEPARTMENT BECOME AN ENTIRE ENTERPRISE? THE ANSWER WOULD BE NO. ARE THERE CERTAIN PARTS OF OUR OPERATION, LIKE FAIR PARK, WHERE WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION? GOLF COURSES. WE'RE MOVING THAT DIRECTION. I'M LOOKING AT OUR ATHLETIC COMPLEXES MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION WHERE IT'S NO COST TO THE CITY. AND AND WE'RE AND LIKE I SAID, WE HAVE BRIEFINGS LINED UP TO COME TO DT TALKING ABOUT WHERE WE'RE HEADED IN THE PARK SYSTEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, I THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. LORI. THANK YOU. I'M JUST KIDDING. I DON'T KNOW WHY YOU'RE THANKING ME SO MUCH. ALL RIGHT, MR. BAZALDUA, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. MAYOR. I DO THINK THIS IS A GOOD DISCUSSION. I HOPE THAT WE HAVE MORE POLICY ON ON HOW TO GO. I WILL SAY THAT I AGREE WITH MISS BLACKMON. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THIS USED IN NOT JUST BE CONTINGENCY OR AT LEAST HAVE SOME SORT OF BASELINE AND THAT CAN BE A PART OF THE POLICY DISCUSSION. BUT I KNOW THAT Y'ALL HAVE MENTIONED THESE EXTREMITIES THAT COME UP THAT THIS WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, APPLICABLE TO. BUT I SEE A YEAR OVER YEAR INCREASE FOR MULTIPLE YEARS. SO AT SOME POINT, THERE'S GOT TO BE A BASELINE OF WHAT THIS SAVINGS ACCOUNT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR THOSE AND THEN NOT HAVE FUNDS THAT WE COULD BE UTILIZING. SO WITH THAT, THE CITY MANAGER, YOU ALLUDED TO IT, BUT I THINK THAT THERE'S BEEN A DISCUSSION WHERE I THINK I HEARD FAR MORE THAN EIGHT PEOPLE SAY THAT THEY WOULD SUPPORT GETTING MORE TO DAS, BUT THEY DIDN'T WANT TO SEE IT COME FROM THE ZOO. AND SO I THINK THAT THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU AND THE DIRECTORS TO KIND OF COME TOGETHER TO HAVE A DISCUSSION AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH A SOLUTION THAT WE COULD ALL LIVE WITH. IS YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. AND YES, SIR, WE WILL WORK ON THAT FOR YOU. OKAY. I'M GOING TO THE MAYOR. PRO TEM DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM. EXCUSE ME FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THE AUDITOR, ONE MORE QUESTION. SAID THESE FUNDS WAS SUPPOSED TO GO INTO THE GENERAL BUDGET FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES. IS THAT CORRECT? WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE MULTI-YEAR FUNDS, I WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL THE CITY ATTORNEY ALLOWS ME TO MAKE WHAT ANSWER? IS IT PERMISSIBLE? GIVEN THE AUDIT REPORT, I SHOULD ASK. YOU TO TALK RIGHT INTO IT. WHAT? UP TO YOU. BUT. MY QUESTION WAS, IS AM I ABLE TO ANSWER THAT? GIVEN THE AUDIT REPORT AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS, WAS HE SPONSORED? FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THE FUNDS COLLECTED WAS SHOULD HAVE WENT INTO THE GENERAL FUND FOR BUDGETING PURPOSES AND IT DID NOT. IS THAT CORRECT? CAN YOU GUYS ANSWER THAT? I HAVE NO IDEA. MR. MAYOR? I'VE ASKED STACY RODRIGUEZ TO GO TALK TO ROY TO TRY TO CLARIFY THIS QUESTION. [06:01:02] AND YOU WANT TO USE. WHAT IS GOING ON? THE CITY ATTORNEY IS TALKING TO THE CITY AUDITOR. FIRST OF ALL, IT'S THE PARK BOARD THAT TALKS ABOUT REVENUES. YOU AS THE CITY COUNCIL, APPROPRIATE FUNDS FROM THE GENERAL FUND. THE SIMPLE EXAMPLE, THE BEST WAY TO DO IT IS IF THERE'S A DOLLAR COMING IN, IF THERE'S A DOLLAR COMING IN FROM A GOLF FEE, BASICALLY THERE NEEDS TO BE A RESOLUTION THAT SAYS SO MUCH OF THAT GOLF FEE IS GOING TO GO TO THE MULTIYEAR FUND, AND THE REST OF IT WILL GO TO THE SINGLE YEAR FUND. AT THIS POINT, WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND ANY TYPE OF RESOLUTION FOR THE CURRENT WAY THAT IT'S BEING ALLOCATED. AS WE UNDERSTOOD IT, 55% OF A DOLLAR IS GOING TO THE GENERAL FUND, 45% IS GOING TO THE MULTIYEAR FUND. THAT MONEY THEN IS SITTING THERE. AND THEN, AS JOHN INDICATED, THAT WOULD BE USED FOR OTHER PURPOSES IN FUTURE YEARS, SO FORTH. AND THAT'S WHAT'S BUILDING UP. BUT THAT NEEDS AN ACTUAL COUNCIL RESOLUTION OR AS I TALKED ABOUT PREVIOUSLY, IF, FOR EXAMPLE, AN ESTATE OR A TRUST DESIGNATES WE WANT TO GIVE CERTAIN MONIES TO THE PARK, THIS IS THE MONIES WE'RE GOING TO GIVE. THIS IS WHAT WE WANT THEM TO USE IT FOR. THAT'S HOW IT'S A MULTIYEAR FUND IS SUPPOSED TO BE USED. THANK YOU FOR THAT EXPLANATION. I GUESS THIS IS GOING BACK TO WHAT MY COLLEAGUES WERE SAYING ABOUT A POLICY. SO RIGHT NOW, BASED ON WHAT I'M HEARING, THERE'S NO RESOLUTION. CORRECT. THERE WAS ONE WAY BACK. THERE'S NOTHING CURRENT THAT WE COULD FIND, AND THERE WAS NOTHING THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO PROVIDE US TO ACTUALLY SUPPORT HOW THEY WERE DOING THE ALLOCATION. CORRECT. OKAY. SO THERE'S NO RESOLUTION IN PLACE. WELL, LISTENING TO THE CONVERSATIONS BASED OFF WHAT EVERYONE WAS SAYING AND LISTENING TO THE CITY MANAGER AND HOW THESE FUNDS ARE TO BE USED, IT WAS SURPRISING TO HEAR THAT TODAY BECAUSE I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN CITY MANAGER'S TEAM AND THE PARK DEPARTMENT AND JUST TRYING TO GET, LET'S SAY, CEDAR CREST HVAC SYSTEM BEING A PROBLEM SINCE I'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER. AND TO FIND OUT THAT WE HAD MONEY THAT WE COULD HAVE USED IT FOR AND THEN USED IT FOR GET IT DONE, THAT'S CONCERNING AS WELL. SO I'M OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ALL RIGHT. CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. A NUMBER OF PEOPLE HAVE SAID THEY ENJOY HAVING THIS POLICY CONVERSATION, BUT I WOULD SAY THIS IS A BUDGET MEETING. WE SHOULD NOT EVEN BE TALKING ABOUT POLICY. AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO, WHICH I THINK IS GREAT, YOU SHOULD TALK TO A COMMITTEE CHAIR OR ASK THE CITY MANAGER TO PUT IT ON A BRIEFING AGENDA TO TALK ABOUT A POLICY. DALLAS ANIMAL SERVICES, I THINK DEFINITELY NEEDS THAT FUNDING. I'M NOT MARRIED TO IT COMING FROM THE ZOO, BUT I'M VERY OPPOSED TO IT COMING FROM A MULTI YEAR PARKS FUND. HOWEVER, I WILL JUST QUESTION WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY GOLF COURSES. IS THAT OUR HIGHEST AND BEST USE OF LAND? WHY DO WE HAVE SO MANY PERFORMING ARTS CENTERS? [06:05:04] THEY'RE ALL CLUSTERED IN ONE AREA. THEY DON'T SUSTAIN IN THEIR REVENUE. THEIR BUILDINGS ARE NOT IN A STATE OF GOOD REPAIR. MAYBE WE DON'T NEED ALL OF THOSE. THESE ARE THE KINDS OF POLICY QUESTIONS THAT RELATE TO THE BUDGET THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN DOING BEFORE. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND CITY MANAGER THAT AS SOON AS THIS BUDGET IS DONE, WE HAVE THESE VERY DIFFICULT CONVERSATIONS BEFORE YOU EVEN START WORKING ON THE NEXT BUDGET. BUT WE ARE OVERSUBSCRIBED TO LONG TERM MAINTENANCE THAT WE CAN'T AFFORD. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME. OKAY. MISS KENNEDY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR DIRECTOR JENKINS AND RYAN. SO DID YOU SAY THAT THE MULTI YEAR FUND COULD BE USED FOR HVAC REPAIRS WHEN WE HAVE HVAC THAT COMPLETELY FAIL? AND I WANT TO CLEAR UP. WE HAVE NOT BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR THE HVAC UNTIL JANUARY OF THIS YEAR. WE SENT A MEMO TO THE COUNCIL AND BOARD AND EVERYONE EXPLAINING WE JUST TOOK THEM OVER. WE JUST COMPLETED OUR ENTIRE ASSESSMENT. WE WE HAD ALREADY HAD IN OUR PLAN BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THERE ARE EIGHT UNITS THAT ARE GOING TO FAIL, AND WE WAS GOING TO USE THE MULTI YEAR FUNDS TO REPLACE THE ONES WE KNOW ARE GOING TO FAIL. OKAY. AND THE REASON WHY I ASK IS BECAUSE I HAD TO RE REPROGRAM BOND MONEY FROM MY LOCAL PARKS FOR HVAC REPAIR. AND SO IT'S GOOD TO KNOW THAT THERE IS THIS MULTI YEAR FUND FOR THAT. I THINK ONE OF THEM I HAD TO REPROGRAM ACTUALLY THIS YEAR FROM LEFTOVER BOND MONEY. SO THANK YOU FOR THE CLARIFICATION. ALL RIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HAS ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANYONE. SO LET ME TAKE ONE SECOND JUST TO CONFIRM HOW WE'RE GOING TO PROCEED FOR THE REST OF THE DAY HERE. HOPEFULLY WON'T BE TOO MUCH LONGER. HOLD ON. WHY DON'T YOU START? ALL RIGHT. OKAY. WELL, LOOK, I APPRECIATE THE THE UNDERSTANDING THE MEMBERS ARE SHOWING TOWARDS TRYING TO EMBRACE A A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT WAY OF APPROACHING THE BUDGET PROCESS. I WANTED TO KEEP AN OPEN MIND ABOUT IT, AND I HOPE YOU GUYS ARE OKAY WITH US, YOU KNOW, SEEING HOW THIS GOES. WE'LL HAVE ONE MORE TO DO TOGETHER NEXT YEAR FOR THOSE OF US WHO ARE NOT MOVING ON ANYTHING ELSE. SO WE'LL SEE IF WE LIKE HOW THIS GOES. I'M GOING TO TURN BACK OVER TO CITY MANAGER TO SAY A FEW THINGS, AND THEN IT'LL BE UP TO THE, I GUESS THE, THE WILL OF THE BODY, HOW WE, HOW WE PROCEED. BUT BASED ON WHAT SHE HAS TO SAY ABOUT THE PROCESS, GO AHEAD. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND I WANTED TO FIRST OF ALL, THANK COUNCIL FOR AT LEAST GIVING US AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING KIND OF AN INITIAL RESPONSE. AND WE REALLY DIDN'T CONSIDER THIS OTHER THAN THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HEAR MODIFICATIONS. WE KNOW THAT SEVERAL OF YOU, EVEN LAST YEAR, CAME TO US AND SAID, WE DO NOT WANT TO BE IN A MEETING TO 2:00 IN THE MORNING GOING THROUGH A SERIES OF AMENDMENTS. CAN WE GIVE YOU FEEDBACK AND GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND LOOK AT POTENTIAL WAYS TO ADDRESS MODIFICATIONS WITHIN THE BUDGET? SO THAT WAS THE PURPOSE OF IT. AND SO I DON'T WANT TO MAKE COUNCIL BELIEVE THAT WE WERE TRYING TO TAKE AWAY ANY OF YOUR AUTHORITY. IT WAS REALLY TO KIND OF TRY IT OUT. WE KNOW THAT OTHER CITIES HAVE SIMILAR PROCESSES. AND SO WE TALKED ABOUT TRYING TO STREAMLINE BETTER USE YOUR TIME. AND A LOT OF YOU HAVE SAID, AND I DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO GO LOOK FOR THE SOURCES. SO WILL YOU HELP US? AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS. SO WHAT I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO, MR. MAYOR, AND AGAIN, THIS IS THE DECISION OF THE COUNCIL. TAKE THE FEEDBACK FROM TODAY. WE'VE WRITTEN IT ALL DOWN. MANY OF YOU HAVE GIVEN US THINGS TO GO AND THINK ABOUT. I THINK WE HAVE SOME OPPORTUNITIES TO GO AND LOOK AT SOME ADDITIONAL WAYS THAT WE CAN TRUE UP SOME OF THE EVEN SOME OF THE PARTNERSHIP DISCUSSIONS WE'VE HEARD. AND THEN ON FRIDAY, WE CAN SEND YOU BACK A RESPONSE TO THESE WITHIN A THE FORMAT THAT WE TYPICALLY SHOW. HERE'S THE PARTICULAR REQUEST AND HERE'S THE FUNDING SOURCE. AND THEN WE WOULD NOT DO ANY KIND OF STRAW POLLING ON THOSE TODAY. AND THEN ON FRIDAY, WE WILL SEND OUT THE COMMUNICATION REMINDING YOU OF ANY BUDGET AMENDMENTS TO BE CONSIDERED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY. [06:10:05] SO AGAIN, THIS WAS REALLY TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE FEEDBACK, BECAUSE MANY OF YOU CALLED AND SAID, WE DO NOT WANT TO GO THROUGH AN EXTENSIVE PROCESS THAT KEEPS US HERE ALL NIGHT LONG. AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO DO TODAY. SO WITH THAT, MR. MAYOR, I WOULD ASK FOR COUNCIL TO LET US TAKE THIS FEEDBACK, MAKE SOME ADDITIONAL MODIFICATIONS, DO A LITTLE BIT MORE WORK, SINCE THESE ARE SOME OF THE INITIAL THINGS THAT WE'VE HEARD. WE SEND THAT BACK OUT, AND THEN WE ALSO SEND YOU THE INFORMATION. I THINK SOME OF YOU HAVE ALREADY ASKED FOR THE FORM THAT WE TYPICALLY USE FOR THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. YOU HAVE IT, WE'LL RESEND IT, AND THEN WE'LL GIVE DEADLINES FOR WHAT WE'LL BE LOOKING TO DO FOR NEXT WINTER. THAT WOULD BE MY HOPE. BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR FEEDBACK AND WE DO APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. OKAY, SO I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THAT, MADAM CITY MANAGER, AND IT IS OBVIOUSLY YOUR PREROGATIVE TO MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE COUNCIL AS TO HOW YOU WOULD LIKE TO PROCEED. OF COURSE, IT IS ALWAYS THE COUNCIL'S ULTIMATE DECISION. SO I'M GOING TO ASK THE CITY ATTORNEY SLASH PARLIAMENTARIAN HERE A QUESTION. SO IF IF A IF A MEMBER WANTED TO MAKE A MOTION TO GO INTO A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE RIGHT NOW TO TAKE UP AMENDMENTS AND IT WAS SECONDED, WHAT WOULD THE VOTE REQUIREMENT BE TO ACTUALLY HAVE THAT PREVAILING FOR US TO DO THAT VERSUS YOU KNOW, ADJOURNING THE MEETING. I THINK THAT'S OUR ALTERNATIVE HERE IS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING OR TO PROCEED WITH HOW WE ORIGINALLY PLANNED. I WANT TO BE TRANSPARENT ABOUT IT. SO JUST FOR THE EDIFICATION, WHAT WOULD BE THE VOTE THRESHOLD TO IT WOULD BE A MAJORITY VOTE. JUST A MAJORITY. ALL RIGHT. PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. STATE YOUR INQUIRY. WOULD THERE BE SOME RULE IN PLACE THAT IF WE DON'T GO INTO COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE, WHICH I'M GOING TO JUST GUESS THE BODY DOES NOT WANT TO DO RIGHT NOW THAT MEMBERS COULD NOT POINT OUT THAT ONE WOULD BE MAKING A AN AMENDMENT ON THE LAST DAY, WHEN IT'S ONLY OUR SECOND CHANCE TO DO SO. COULD THAT BE BARRED? I DON'T BELIEVE THAT COULD ACTUALLY BE BARRED, THOUGH, IF IT IF IT AMOUNTED TO BEING INDECOROUS OR SOME SORT OF ATTACK, THEN THAT WOULD CERTAINLY JUSTIFY A POINT OF ORDER. WELL, WE DON'T SEEM TO BE ADDRESSING ATTACKS THAT HAPPEN AROUND THIS HORSESHOE LATELY. THANK YOU. I FEEL LIKE THAT WAS DIRECTED AT ME, CHAIRWOMAN MENDELSOHN, BUT I CAN'T CATCH THEM ALL. YOU KNOW, GOD, THERE'S SO MANY THESE DAYS. ALL RIGHT, WELL, IF THERE IF THERE'S IF THERE'S NOTHING ELSE, THEN. AND THERE'S NO MR. MAYOR, I DO. I'M SORRY NOT TO. I'M JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY ON ON NEXT STEP. SO AM I TO UNDERSTAND. AND AGAIN, I APPRECIATE THE WAY THIS WAS DELIVERED BECAUSE IT SEEMED TO CAPTURE EVERYTHING. BUT IN TERMS OF OF AMENDMENTS, WE CAN STILL DID. I UNDERSTAND WE CAN STILL DO THAT THROUGH FRIDAY IF WE HAVE ANYTHING ELSE THAT WASN'T ADDRESSED IN WHICH MOST OF IT WAS, BUT JUST TRYING TO GET CLARITY. ABSOLUTELY. SO WHAT WE WHAT I WAS REFERRING TO IS THAT FROM WHAT WAS DISCUSSED TODAY, ON FRIDAY, WE WILL SEND OUT SOMETHING GIVING YOU ANY MODIFICATIONS, TAKING YOUR FEEDBACK FROM TODAY, LISTENING TO SOME OF THE WAYS THAT YOU'D LIKE FOR US TO ADDRESS THE ITEMS, THE SEVEN THAT WE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, THEN YOU CAN HAVE THOSE NEXT WEDNESDAY BE IN A STRAW POLLING. IN ADDITION TO THAT, IF THERE ARE ANY OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT COUNCIL OUTSIDE OF WHAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TODAY, WANT TO SUBMIT, WE'VE ALREADY SENT OUT THE FORM. MANY OF YOU ASKED FOR IT. SO YOU HAVE IT, BUT WE WILL RESEND IT OUT ON FRIDAY, AND WE WILL SET THE DEADLINE FOR NEXT WEEK WHEN WE NEED THOSE BACK SO WE CAN HAVE THOSE READY AS WELL FOR CONVERSATION NEXT WEDNESDAY. SO YOU WOULD ACTUALLY BE DOING BOTH. WE WOULD SEND YOU BACK REVISIONS TO WHAT YOU TALKED ABOUT TODAY AND ANYTHING ELSE THAT YOU GIVE TO US BEFORE NEXT WEDNESDAY. AND CAN YOU SHARE WITH THAT DEADLINE IS SO DO YOU MIND, MISS TOLBERT, PLEASE? SO IN THE COMMUNICATION THAT WE SENT LAST WEEK, WE INDICATED THAT THIS FRIDAY AT, I BELIEVE, NOON ANYTHING THAT WE GET BY FRIDAY AT NOON THAT WE WOULD PACKAGE ON FRIDAY AND SEND OUT. OKAY. AND THAT WAS THE, THE, THE INITIAL DEADLINE THAT WE GAVE FOR COUNCIL AMENDMENTS THAT WERE BALANCED WITH SOURCE OF FUNDS AND USE OF FUNDS. AND THAT FORM WAS PROVIDED IN THAT COMMUNICATION. SO IT'S ALREADY WE WERE JUST GOING TO RESEND IT OUT AND IT LOOKS LIKE THE STANDARD. YES, WE'RE STILL IN THE MEETING, GUYS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAINTAIN SOMETHING LIKE ORDER. CHAIRMAN GRACEY HAD THE FLOOR AND I WAS ACTUALLY GOING TO RECOGNIZE MR. ROTH NEXT, AND SHE'S BEEN SO PATIENTLY WAITING TO SPEAK. SO IF WE COULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THE ORDER WOULD BE GREAT. SO HAVE YOUR QUESTIONS BEEN ANSWERED, MR. ROTH, I A POINT OF ORDER. I AM NOT PREPARED TO BE VOTING ON ANY AMENDMENTS TO THIS BUDGET TODAY. I THINK THERE'S STILL A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO, TO DEVELOP WITH REGARD TO THE OTHERS, OTHER THINGS I THINK WE HAVE TO BE WE SHOULD HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS OTHER PARTS OF THIS BUDGET BEFORE WE START WORKING ON AMENDMENTS PIECEMEAL. [06:15:07] AND AND I THINK THAT FRIDAY AT NOON IS TOO EARLY OF A TIME FOR US TO HAVE A FINAL TIME FOR RECEIPT OF AMENDMENTS. I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE THAT PUSHED OUT TILL NEXT WEEK IF POSSIBLE. AND I, THIS IS A COMPLICATED, DIFFICULT PROCESS. AND I, AND I THINK WE, WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TODAY WORKING ON, ON SEVEN ITEMS WHICH WERE, WHICH REPRESENT NOT EVEN A COUPLE MILLION DOLLARS OUT OF A, OF A $5 BILLION BUDGET. AND I'M A LITTLE BIT DISTRESSED THAT THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING. AND I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE PERSONALLY BEING ABLE TO MAKE ANY KIND OF SERIOUS RECOMMENDATIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. AND SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT WE DON'T HAVE A, AN AMENDMENT DECISION ON THESE PARTICULAR ITEMS TODAY AND THAT WE, THAT WE PACKAGE THESE UP WITH OTHER, WITH OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT MIGHT COME UP IN A SUBSEQUENT MEETING. YOU'RE LUCKY THEN BECAUSE BUT FOR THE COMMENTS PEOPLE ARE MAKING RIGHT NOW, THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ABOUT TO DO IS TO ADJOURN THE MEETING. AND WITHOUT DOING THAT, ACTUALLY MR. RIDLEY, SO CLARIFICATION, JACK, ARE YOU SAYING THAT WE NO LONGER HAVE A DEADLINE OF FRIDAY AT NOON TO SUBMIT OUR FIRST TRANCHE OF AMENDMENTS? HAS THAT BEEN CHANGED? I TRIED TO HELP ANSWER COUNCIL MEMBER GRACEY QUESTION THAT THE DEADLINE THAT WE HAD SET WAS FRIDAY AT NOON TO SUBMIT YOUR AMENDMENTS TO US. THAT IS THE DEADLINE, UNLESS MISS TOLBERT CHANGES IT. HAS THAT BEEN CHANGED? NO, SIR. WE WERE JUST REMINDING COUNCIL THAT WE ALREADY SENT OUT A COMMUNICATION SAYING THAT THAT'S WHAT WOULD BE DUE THIS FRIDAY. WE WERE NOT CHANGING THAT. IT'S THE SAME FORM THAT YOU'VE USED BEFORE. SO WE'VE NOT CHANGED THAT. WE'RE JUST REMINDING YOU OF THE DEADLINE IS THIS FRIDAY. IF THAT DEADLINE IS PUSHED BACK, IT COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR US TO THEN BE PREPARED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION AND GIVE YOU ALL INFORMATION IN TIME FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY. SO WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME HOURS TO BE ABLE TO WORK. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY, IF IT'S TUESDAY OF NEXT WEEK, I CAN'T TELL YOU THAT WE CAN OVERNIGHT BE READY FOR WEDNESDAY CONVERSATION. CHAIRWOMAN. THANK YOU. NOW, THAT'S THE DEADLINE FOR YOU TO BE ABLE TO PUBLISH IT AND SEND IT TO US. WE, OF COURSE, ARE ABLE TO MAKE FLOOR AMENDMENTS IF WE WERE ABLE TO SEND IT TO YOU. LET'S SAY SUNDAY NIGHT. DO YOU THINK YOU WOULD ALSO BE ABLE TO STILL SHARE THAT WITH OTHERS OR JUST DEPENDS ON WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE? WE WILL CONTINUE. AND WE HAVE DONE THIS IN THE PAST. THINGS THAT WE GET AFTER THE DEADLINE. WE TRY TO PACKAGE THAT AND SEND IT TO THE MEMBERS IN ADVANCE OF THE MEETING. THE FURTHER YOU DELAY IN TURNING IT IN, THE MORE TIME IT'S GOING TO TAKE US GETTING IT TO THE FULL BODY. FULL BODY USUALLY DOESN'T LIKE GETTING THINGS ON THE FLOOR, BUT IT HAPPENS. AND SO IT'S JUST HOW MUCH COURTESY DOES EVERYONE GIVE TO THEIR COLLEAGUES AND GETTING TURNED IN SO WE CAN TURN IT BACK TO YOU ALL SO EVERYONE HAS IT IN ADVANCE. RESPECTFULLY, I DON'T THINK IT'S ABOUT COURTESY. FOR OUR COLLEAGUES, IT WAS JUST ABOUT ANALYSIS OF THE BUDGET AND BEING PREPARED TO SUBMIT THOSE. BUT THANK YOU. AND GETTING QUESTIONS ANSWERED. APPRECIATE IT. ALL RIGHT. TIMES 4:39 P.M. AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. * This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.