* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. [00:00:04] UM, GOOD MORNING EVERYONE. WE'LL GET STARTED. WELCOME TO THE BRIEFING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION. UM, TODAY'S SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2026. UH, LILIANA, YOU WANT TO GET A ROLL CALL GOING? GOOD MORNING, COMMISSIONERS. DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SIMS HERE, DISTRICT TWO, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. PRESENT, DISTRICT THREE. VICE CHAIR HERBERT? HERE. DISTRICT FOUR. COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH. HERE. DISTRICT FIVE. COMMISSIONER SERRATO. PRESENT? DISTRICT SIX. COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. PRESENT. DISTRICT SEVEN. COMMISSIONER WHEELER. REAGAN. PRESENT? DISTRICT EIGHT. COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE. COMMISSIONER KOONS. DISTRICT 10. COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. HERE. DISTRICT 11. COMMISSIONER. UH, COX HERE. DISTRICT 12. COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. DISTRICT 13. COMMISSIONER HALL HERE. DISTRICT 14. COMMISSIONER KINGSTON. DISTRICT AND PLACE. 15 CHAIR RUBIN. YOU HAVE QUORUM, SIR. THANK YOU. UM, GOOD MORNING AGAIN. UM, COMMISSIONER HERBERT WILL BE SERVING AS THE CHAIR TODAY. UM, COMMISSIONER SIMS HAS VOLUNTEERED TO BE VICE CHAIR, BUT WE NEED A NOMINATION. WOULD SOMEONE VOLUNTEER TO NOMINATE? UH, UH, CHAIR SIMS FOR VICE CHAIR FOR TODAY? SO MOVED. I SECOND. SECOND. AND ALL IN, UH, FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIMS. AND, UM, TEAM. OKAY. UM, FIRST UP MINUTES. UH, CAN YOU APPROVE THE MINUTES FOR, OH, THE, IT'S THE BRIEFING. AHA. AGAIN, BRIEFING. WHAT CASES DO YOU WANNA START WITH? ONE. WE'RE NEEDING ONE BRIEF. IT'S A MINOR. SO A MISCELLANEOUS ZONING ITEM. AND THERE'S NO NEED TO BRIEF. NO NEED TO BRIEF. OKAY. OKAY. ANYBODY WANT TO BRIEF? PERFECT. LADY SHARMA, I THINK YOU'RE OFF THE HOOK FOR NOW. UM, CASE TWO. UM, THIS IS THE CONSENT DOCKET. UM, SO FAR, PULL FOR CONSENT. I HAVE TWO, FOUR, AND SEVEN. ANYONE ELSE NEEDS A CASE? PULLED OFF CONSENT TODAY. MR. CHAIR? YES. THIS IS COMMISSIONER HAN. YES. ITEM FOUR WILL BE INDIVIDUAL PLEASE. CAN YOU REPEAT THAT? ITEM FOUR WILL BE HEARD INDIVIDUALLY. I COULDN'T UNDERSTAND. EXCUSE ME. ITEM THREE AND CHAIR, ALL OF DISTRICT 14 WILL BE PULLED OFF CONSENT. ONE MORE TIME, GUYS. SORRY, IT'S A LITTLE, UH, FOGGY ON OUR END. ALL OF DISTRICT 14 WILL BE PULLED OFF. CONSENT AND ITEM THREE FOR DISTRICT TWO WILL BE OFF OF CONSENT. PERFECT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. I APPRECIATE IT. MR. CHAIR? YES. UH, ITEM NUMBER SIX. I'M GONNA ASK FOR A DELAY ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW. OKAY. WE'LL TAKE IT OFF. CONSENT TO DO THAT, BUT, OKAY. SO THAT LEAVES FIVE AND NINE ON CONSENT. OKAY. BACK TO OUR BRIEFINGS. UM, CASE NUMBER THREE, QUESTIONS FOR STAFF, PLEASE. OKAY, PERFECT. MR. LEE, WELCOME. JUST QUESTIONS. NO BRIEFING. COMMISSIONER. THANK YOU. UM, YES, UNLESS OTHER COMMISSIONERS NEED IT. THIS IS THIRD THREE. CAN WE BRIEF THIS CASE PLEASE? BECAUSE I THINK WE JUST GOT, UM, A LANDSCAPE PLAN AT A TNP THIS MORNING. YES, GO AHEAD AND FULL BRIEF PLEASE. THANK YOU. AND MR. CHAIR, UH, MR. NAVAREZ IS AVAILABLE. UM, SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE TO HAVE STAFF WALK THROUGH THE UPDATES TO THE TMP. COME ON. [00:05:05] ISN'T, WHY CAN'T I GET THIS WORK? UH, OKAY. THIS IS Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 6 7. EXCUSE ME, MR. LEE, COULD YOU SPEAK UP PLEASE? OKAY. HELLO, THIS IS LOCATED IN COUNCIL DISTRICT TWO. HERE'S THE AERIAL AND THE SURROUNDING LANE USED IN THE ZONING FOR THE PROPERTY. UH, SO THIS IS THE APPLICATION TO AMENDMENT, UH, PD 6 37, UM, FOR THE PURPOSE OF ALLOWING OPERATIONS OF A NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. SO THE PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY ZONE, UH, PD 6 37, AND, UH, AS OF NOW, THE PROPERTY IS, UM, BEING DEMOLISHED OF THE OLD SCHOOL AND THEY'LL BE CONSTRUCTING A BRAND NEW ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH, THE AREA SURROUND SURROUNDING THE AREA IS PREDOMINANTLY SINGLE FAMILY WITH A CHURCH TO THE SOUTHWEST OF THE PROPERTY. AND APPLICANT WISHES TO AMEND THE PD 6 37 TO INCREASE THE HEIGHT FROM 34 FEET TO 45 FEET AND INCREASE THE MAXIMUM LOCK COVERAGE FROM 31% TO 45%. HERE'S THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND SOME SURROUNDING PHOTOS. IS IT CURRENTLY CHANGING ON THE SCREEN? OKAY. IT'S OKAY. AND HERE'S THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARD FOR PD 6 37. HERE'S THE PROPOSED SITE PLAN, AND HERE'S THE COPY OF THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS. UH, CORONER FORWARD DALLAS' PROPERTY IS IDENTIFIED AS COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL, AND WITH THAT, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION APPROVAL ALSO TO AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANNING CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. UM, QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? I MEAN, FOR THE, UM, UH, FOR MR. LEE OBJECT? YES. COMMISSIONER HALL. THE SITE IS CURRENTLY OCCUPIED WITH THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH, NO. SO IT'S CURRENTLY BEING DEMOLISHED. UM, AS OF AS OF TODAY, IT'S BEING DEMOLISHED. YES. ARE THERE ANY RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON, ON THIS LAND? NO, NOT ON THE PROPERTY. YOU KNOW, WE GOT A, WE GOT A, AN OPPOSITION REPLY CARD THAT SAID, UH, THEY WERE, THEY WERE IN OPPOSITION BECAUSE I LIVE ON THE LAND. YEAH, I I SAW THAT ONE, BUT THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO HOME ON THE, ON THE PROPERTY. UH, BEFORE IT WAS JUST THE SCHOOL I TOOK UP THE WHOLE LOT. UM, FROM MY, UM, CONVERSATION WITH THE APPLICANT, IT WAS THE SAME, SAME BUILDING, JUST ORIENTATED DIFFERENTLY. UM, SO THERE WAS NO HOME ON PROPERTY, BUT AS OF THIS MOMENT, THERE ARE NO RESIDENTIAL UNITS, NO ON THE SITE. I, I WILL SAY ONE OF THE MOST COMMON TYPES OF NOTICES THAT WE ACTUALLY GET BACK ARE SAYING, PLEASE DON'T CHANGE MY ZONING. AND IT'S USUALLY 'CAUSE FOLKS ARE WITHIN THE NOTIFICATION AND THEY THINK THAT THEY ARE THE SUBJECT PROPERTY AND THEY HAVE THAT MISUNDERSTANDING. AND WE TRY AND CLARIFY WHEN POSSIBLE, BUT IT'S, IT'S VERY COMMON THAT WE RECEIVE THOSE LETTERS. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MR. LEE? YES, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT SIDEWALK STANDARDS, AND I'M HAVING A PROBLEM WITH GETTING THE AGENDA TO LOAD, SO I'M HAVING TO DO THIS OFF OF MEMORY, BUT ON SOME OF THE SCHOOLS, WE'RE GETTING CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRE A SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AND A FIVE FOOT BUFFER. AND SOMETIMES THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT SAYS IF THERE'S ALREADY AN EXISTING FOUR FOOT SIDEWALK, IT COULD JUST STAY PUT UNTIL SUCH TIME AS, YOU KNOW, REPLACEMENT. BUT THAT SEEMS TO BE HAPPENING INCONSISTENTLY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT, WHAT THE DIFFERENCE IS AND HOW WE'RE APPLYING THAT STANDARD? [00:10:01] I'LL, I'LL SPEAK TO THIS. ON THIS PARTICULAR SCHOOL, UM, THEY HAD ENOUGH DESIGN FAR ENOUGH ALONG, UM, TO HAVE SOME, SOME THINGS FULLY DECIDED, INCLUDING THAT. UM, I THINK THAT RECENTLY IN TALKING WITH THE, IN THE PAST, UH, YES, FOR, ESPECIALLY FOR A BIG SITE, UH, IT WAS SORT OF AGREED THAT THEY WOULD LEAVE SOME OF THEIR QUALITY SIDEWALKS IN LINE. I THINK MOVING FORWARD, THE DISTRICT HAS SAID, AND THEY CAN, THEY WILL CORRECT ME, UM, THAT THEY MOVE TOWARDS JUST REPLACING FULLY AROUND THEIR BUILDING SITE. UM, BUT SOME OF THAT, SOME OF THAT IN THE BIGGER SITES, THEY WOULD LEAVE SOME IN, IN THE PAST ON OUR, ON OUR SUBMITTALS. THIS ONE, UH, BASICALLY JUST CALLS FOR, UM, REPLACEMENT REGARDLESS. UM, BUT I THINK THAT THE DISTRICT WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TOWARDS, UM, JUST REPLACING FULLY. SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT, UH, WE'RE GOING TO START ADOPTING LANGUAGE CONSISTENTLY IN THESE CASES THAT REQUIRE FULL REPLACEMENT? AND WHAT WAS THE, IN WHICH CASES? WELL, IN ALL THESE, THESE SCHOOL CASES, IT JUST SEEMS TO ME THAT WE'VE, WE'VE HAD SOME INCONSISTENCIES IN SOME PLACES IT SAYS, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN KEEP THE FOUR FEET, YOU KNOW, IF THEY'RE OKAY, AND THE OTHER, SO IF, IF THE, IF DISD HAS AGREED TO GO WITH A SIX AND FIVE, ARE WE GOING TO START BEING CONSISTENT ABOUT I, YES. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE DIS THE DIRECTION THE DISTRICT WOULD, WOULD LIKE TO GO. I THINK IN THEIR LAST ROUND OF BONDS, YOU KNOW, THEY HAD A LOT OF THEIR THINGS PROGRAMMED AND THEY WERE A DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT SPACE. UM, AND THEY'LL PROBABLY SHARE MORE ABOUT THAT WITH HOW FAR ALONG THEY WERE IN DESIGN AND, AND SOMETIMES THE DESIGN CHALLENGES, UM, THAT THOSE REPLACEMENTS WOULD, WOULD, UM, LEAD TO, I THINK THEY'VE MAYBE BUDGETED, I, I DON'T WANNA SPEAK FOR THEM, BUT I THINK THEY MAY BE BUDGETED AND ALLOCATED A BIT DIFFERENTLY, UM, IN THEIR NEW, IN THEIR NEW BONDS. AND SO THEY'LL PROBABLY BE, UM, MORE ABLE TO ACCOMMODATE THOSE, INCLUDING THE, THE LITTLE CHALLENGES THAT COME UP EVEN ON BIG SITES. THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU. RECESS. OKAY. UM, WE'RE GONNA RECESS FOR 10 MINUTES. WE HAVE SOME TECHNICAL ISSUES, UM, THAT THE PUBLIC CAN'T ACCESS US, SO WE'RE GONNA RECESS FOR, ALRIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON EVERYONE. WELCOME TO THE, UM, [CALL TO ORDER] MEETING AND PUBLIC HEARING OF THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION. UM, THIS MORNING THERE WAS A LITTLE BIT OF A HICCUP OF THE BRIEFING, SO WE'RE GOING TO, UM, DO, UM, CASES THAT NEED TO BE BRIEFED AS THEY APPEAR FOR THE, UH, IN THE DOCKET. UM, STARTING OFF FIRST, CAN WE GET A ROLL CALL? GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. DISTRICT ONE, COMMISSIONER SIMS HERE. DISTRICT TWO. COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. PRESENT DISTRICT THREE. VICE CHAIR. HERBERT PRESENT? DISTRICT FOUR. COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH. PRESENT DISTRICT FIVE. COMMISSIONER SERATO. PRESENT? DISTRICT SIX. COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. PRESENT? DISTRICT SEVEN. COMMISSIONER WHEELER REAGAN. PRESENT DISTRICT A COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN PRESENT? DISTRICT NINE. COMMISSIONER C***S. DISTRICT 10. COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. PRESENT? DISTRICT 11. COMMISSIONER COX? I'M HERE. DISTRICT 12. COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. PRESENT DISTRICT 13. COMMISSIONER HALL HERE. DISTRICT 14. COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HERE AND PLACE 15 CHAIR RUBEN. YOU HAVE CORUM QUORUM, SIR. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, A FEW NOTES, UM, TO THE AUDIENCE, ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN ITEM, UM, MUST FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARD IF YOU HAVE NOT REGISTERED ALREADY TO SPEAK. UM, IF YOU'RE HERE IN PERSON, PLEASE DO SO. UM, AND WE'LL COLLECT THAT INFORMATION. UM, THE SPEAKERS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK, UM, AND UNLESS RULES ARE SUSPENDED FOR ANY REASON, UM, SPEAKERS WHO NEED A TRANSLATOR, PLEASE LET US KNOW. UM, THAT TIME WILL BE ADJUSTED TO ADDRESS THAT. UH, PLEASE ADDRESS YOUR REMARKS TO THE COMMISSION, AND ITEMS WILL BE TAKEN IN AGENDA. UM, AND ACCORDING TO THE AGENDA AS LISTED, UNLESS THE RULES CHANGE, [APPROVAL OF MINUTES] UM, LET'S GET OUR MEETINGS. WE HAVE A, UM, UM, UH, MINUTES. YES. COMMISSIONER HALL, YOU HAVE A, YOU WANNA DO OUR MINUTES? I DO. MR. CHAIR, ONE MOMENT, PLEASE. TAKE YOUR TIME. , UH, MR. CHAIR, I MOVE THAT WE APPROVE THE MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 3RD, 2026 CITY PLANNING COMMISSION HEARING AS THEY WERE POSTED ON SEPTEMBER 8TH, 2026. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A SECOND? UM, WE HAVE A SECOND. UH, THAT, THOSE ARE THE MEETING. UM, OUR FIRST ITEM TODAY IS A MISCELLANEOUS ITEM ZONING. OH, WE, I'M, I'M PRACTICING. UM, ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THE MINUTES ARE RECORDED. THANK YOU. [1. 26-3010A An application for a minor amendment to (1) the existing Development /Landscape Plan, and (2) Traffic Management Plan (TMP) on property zoned Planned Development District No. 523, on the northeast corner of Ferndale Road and Estate Lane, west of Kirkhaven Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Laura Lee Gunn, James Watson Representative: Karl A Crawley Planner: Hema Sharma Council District: 10 MZ-26-000017] NOW [00:15:01] WE CAN MOVE ON TO OUR ACTION ITEMS. UM, THE FIRST ITEM UP IS MZ 2 6 0 0 0 1 7. UM, MS. SHERMA . YEAH, THIS ONE WAS ALREADY SAID NOT TO BRIEF, SO. OH, GOOD QUESTION. I DON'T THINK IT WAS. YEAH, WE COULD, WE COULD READ IT INTO THE RECORD. LET'S READ IT INTO THE RECORD. YEAH. THEN WE JUST ASK, SOMEONE WANTS TO READ. LET'S BE READING. SO WE'LL DO A READ INTO THE RECORD. UM, IF THERE'S A REQUEST FOR A BRIEF, WE'LL BRIEF AND THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE HEARING. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, CHAIR, COMMISSIONER, AND EVERYONE. MZ 26 A MZ 26 DASH 0 1 7. AN APPLICATION FOR A MINOR AMENDMENT TWO ONE. THE EXISTING DEVELOPMENT LANDSCAPE PLAN AND TWO, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, TMP ON PROPERTY ZONED PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 5 23 ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF DALE ROAD AND THE STATE LANE WEST OF CORK. KEVIN DRIVE STAFF RECOMMENDATION. APPROVAL, THANK YOU. EARLIER WAS DECIDED THAT WE DID NOT NEED A BRIEFING. IS THAT STILL THE CASE? YES. ALRIGHT. SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSIONERS. LAURA LEE GUNN 1341 WEST MOCKINGBIRD LANE. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ITEM. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? UM, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? HEARING NONE, CAN WE GET A MOTION? YES, MR. CHAIR, THANK YOU. IN THE MATTER OF MZ 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 7 I MOVE APPROVAL. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION. UM, UH, WE HAVE THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER CORAN HER ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE, LET'S GET A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [ZONING DOCKET] UM, NEXT IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. UM, THE ONLY TWO ITEMS THAT ARE REMAINING ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ARE FIVE AND NINE. IS THERE ANYONE HERE? OH, WELL, LET'S GET THESE READ INTO THE RECORD AND THEN WE'LL ASK IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THE, IF YOU'D LIKE TO READ ITEM FIVE AND NINE OF THE RECORD, I'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY, ITEM NUMBER FIVE Z 26 0 0 0 1 1 3. AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 5 5 5 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF FRANKFURT ROAD AND HILL CREST ROAD. AKA 18 0 11 HILLCREST ROAD. A STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS ITEM NUMBER NINE, CASE Z 26 0 0 0 1 9 3. AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER 25 56 FOR A, UH, COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT INSIDE ON PROPERTY ZONE SUB AREA FOUR. PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 3 1 6, THE JEFFERSON AREA, A SPECIAL PURPOSE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF SUNSET AVENUE, EAST OF NORTH MADISON AVENUE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE CONSENT ITEMS? THESE ITEMS WILL BE VOTED TOGETHER. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M LELAND SOY. I'M THE OWNER FOR NUMBER NINE LAID SPACES. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS. WE'LL HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? DO YOU WANT ME TO MAKE IT ON BOTH OF THEM OR JUST ON MINE? UH, BOTH. OKAY. SORRY. THE, THE CONSENT AGENDA IN TOTAL, RIGHT? YES, SIR. OKAY. UH, [00:20:03] I, I'M MOVED THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, ON ITEM Z DASH 26 DASH 113 AND ALSO ON ITEM NUMBER Z DASH 26 0 0 0 1 9 3 AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL WITH SUBJECT CONDITIONS INCLUDED. THANK YOU, UM, FOR THE MOTION AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COX FOR THE SECOND. UM, IS THERE ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [2. 26-3011A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for multifamily use on property zoned Planned Development District No. 407, on the south line of W. Kiest Boulevard and the east line of Boulder Drive, AKA 3130 Springwood Lane. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Kathryn Schmeltz Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 3 Z-26-000150] UM, NEXT UP IS CASE NUMBER TWO O SCORE. YOU WANNA READ IT INTO THE RECORD? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, MR. CHAIR, MEMBERS OF THE CITY PLAN COMMISSIONER AGUILERA. ITEM, UH, TWO IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR MULTI-FAMILY USE ON A PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 0 7, UH, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH LINE OF WEST, UH, JUST, UH, BOULEVARD AND THE EAST LINE OF, UH, BOULDER DRIVE, UH, ALSO KNOWN AS 31 30 SPRINGWOOD LANE. STAFF, UH, RECOMMENDS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. UM, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. HI, I AM CATHERINE SCHMALTZ. I'M HERE TO SPEAK, UM, ON THIS. THANK YOU GUYS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU. DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, AND I DID NOT NEED THIS ONE BRIEF, BUT IF ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE, NOW IS THE TIME. OKAY. HEARING NONE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION CHAIR. CHAIR? YEAH. CAN YOU MAKE A MOTION? MAY I MAKE A MOTION? MR. CHAIR? AND IT'S FOR, UM, 10 YEARS INSTEAD OF 10, 10 YEARS, UH, IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 15 0. I MOVE TO APPROVE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANS AND CONDITIONS, EXCEPT THAT THE SUP SHALL BE FOR AN LIMIT OF 10 YEARS. THANK YOU. CAN I GET A AND THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. ANY, UH, COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [3. 26-3013A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 637, on the northeast line of Cortland Avenue, between Bombay Avenue and Anson Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, traffic management plan, and conditions. Applicant: Dallas Independent School District Representative: Elsie Thurman Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 2 Z-26-000167] OKAY, CASE NUMBER THREE. UH, MR. LEE, ITEM NUMBER THREE, AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 6 37 ON THE NORTHEAST LINE OF CORTLAND AVENUE BETWEEN BOMBAY AVENUE AND ANSON ROAD STAFF. RECOMMENDATION, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. UM, DO WE NEED THIS ONE BRIEFED? I BELIEVE WE WERE IN THE MIDDLE OF BRIEFING THIS ONE OR ASKING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ONE WHEN WE CUT OFF. YES. AND I THINK UNFORTUNATELY THAT BRIEFING MAY HAVE NOT BEEN, UM, PUBLISHED AT THE TIME. MR. CHAIR, THIS IS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. I DO HAVE QUESTIONS, BUT I CAN ASK THEM OR I'M GLAD TO HAVE A BRIEFING IF THE COMMISSIONERS WOULD LIKE, UH, NO, I THINK, THINK YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTIONS NOW. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU. UM, AND MR. LEE, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE ABLE TO ADDRESS THESE OR IF MR. NEVAREZ IS AVAILABLE. UM, THERE WAS A REVISED TMP THAT WAS CIRCULATED TO THE COMMISSION, I BELIEVE THAT WAS ADDRESSING COMMENTS THAT CAME FROM ENGINEERING STAFF REVIEW LAST WEEK. UM, IS, IS THAT CORRECT? AND COULD YOU GIVE US AN OUTLINE OF WHAT THOSE COMMENTS WERE? I WILL DEFER TO DAVID ON TRANSPORTATION. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONER DAVID NAVARRE TRANSPORTATION DEVELOPMENT SERVICES. INDEED, WE RECEIVED A REVISED REPORT, UH, LAST NIGHT THAT SATISFIES ALL THE COMMENTS THAT WE PROVIDED ON FRIDAY THE WEEK BEFORE. UM, THIS ONE AND ALL THE CHANGES HAVE BEEN INCORPORATED INTO THE TMP. THE REPORT IS NOW, UH, COMPLETED. DID YOU MEAN TO GIVE YOU AN OUTLINE OF WHAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE? IF YOU COULD PLEASE, JUST AT A HIGH LEVEL TO HELP YES. AT HIGH LEVEL, NOT, DON'T HAVE THEM IN FRONT OF ME MA'AM, BUT, UH, THE, THERE WERE [00:25:01] REQUESTS TO CHANGE THE OPERATIONS OF THE PICKUP TO MAKE SURE THAT, UH, THE LINES WERE ADJACENT TO EACH OTHER AND NOT CREATING A GAP IN BETWEEN THEM. UH, ORIGINALLY THE REQUEST WAS TO ALLOW TRAFFIC TO, OR STUDENTS TO LOAD VEHICLES AND THEN ALLOW THE VEHICLES TO LEAVE IN A NON-SEQUENTIAL MANNER. UM, AND THEN ALSO, UH, WE REQUESTED THAT THE TMP INDICATED THE GRADE LEVELS. UH, THE, THE PICKUP IS BEING SPLIT INTO NORTH AND SOUTH, AND SO WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD KNOW WHERE, UH, THE PICKUP ZONE WOULD BE LOCATED. WE ALSO WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT THE TMP ADDRESSED CROSSING GUARDS AND SCHOOL ZONES, AND SO THAT WE CAN MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN ENFORCE ANY CHANGES. UH, INDEED THE REPORT RECOMMENDS NO CHANGES TO THE SCHOOL ZONES OR THE NUMBER OF CROSSING GUARDS PRESENT THERE AS OF WHEN THE SCHOOL WAS PREVIOUSLY OPERATING. UH, THOSE CHANGES MEET, UH, SATISFY THE COMMENTS THAT WE MADE. UM, THANK YOU. SO IS IT CORRECT THAT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND, UM, THE CROSSING GUARDS, I THINK THIS TOUCHED ON BRIEFLY, BUT SO THAT WE HAVE IT ON THE RECORD, THERE WAS AN EXISTING SCHOOL THAT HAD A DIFFERENT DROP OFF PATTERN AND WHAT'S BEING PROPOSED TODAY, AS YOU SAID, IT SPLITS IT NORTH AND SOUTH, BUT IT ALIGNS WITH EXISTING ROADWAYS AND, UM, ENSURES THAT QUEUING IS MANAGED ON SITE. IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT, YES. THANK YOU. AND, UM, MR. LEE, IF I MAY ASK YOU ONE FOLLOW UP QUESTION, PLEASE. WE ALSO RECEIVED A LANDSCAPE PLAN. UM, THE OVERALL PD DEFAULTS TO ARTICLE 10, IS THAT CORRECT? CORRECT. UM, AND ARE YOU AWARE THAT, UM, THE LANDSCAPE PLAN IS, UM, REFLECTING EXISTING TREES IN A COMMUNITY GATHERING AREA AS A PART OF THE REQUEST? AND THAT'S WHAT IS, UH, REFLECTED IN THE LANDSCAPE PLAN THAT'S, UH, WAS SUBMITTED BY THE APPLICANT TEAM? YES. OKAY. AND I CAN, I CAN, I BELIEVE THE APPLICANT'S THERE AS WELL, SO I CAN ASK THEM THAT QUESTION AS WELL. UM, ON THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE IN THE PD, IT NOTES A HEIGHT RESTRICTION OF 45 FEET THROUGH THE LIBRARY AS SHOWN ON THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THAT DEVELOPMENT PLAN IS PART OF OUR DOCKET. IS IT CORRECT THAT WE WOULD NEED TO HAVE THAT, UH, AN APPROVAL WOULD BE SUBJECT TO A REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO HAVE THAT, UM, DENOTED ON THE PLAN? UH, FROM MY SPEAKING WITH THE APPLICANT, I BELIEVE THEY JUST WANTED THE LANGUAGE AND THE PD CONDITIONS, UH, SHOWING THE OKAY. LOCATION OF THE LIBRARY. UH, I BELIEVE, I'M NOT SURE IF THE SITE PLAN, UH, SHOWS IT RIGHT NOW. OKAY. CALL PPLICANT TEAM. YEAH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. LEE. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR OUR REPRESENTATIVE, MR. LEE? OKAY, THANK YOU MR. LEE. UM, RIGHT NOW WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS OR IF THERE'S ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN THE AUDIENCE. NOW IS THE TIME. COME ON DOWN. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. UH, DID WE READ THIS INTO THE RECORD? YES. YES. MR. LEE READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND MY COUNTER COURT ARE TELLING ME YES. THANK YOU. YES, WE ARE READY. HI, MS. THURMOND. THANK YOU. GO AHEAD AND HIT YOUR MIC. YEP. ELSIE THURMAN, 9 4 0 6 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 8. UH, THIS IS FOR, UM, OBADIAH KNIGHT. THE, UM, JUST TO ANSWER THE QUESTION THAT COMMISSIONER HAMPTON ASKED, THE, UM, HEIGHT IS IN THE PD CONDITIONS AND THEY OVERRIDE THE, UH, DEVELOPMENT PLAN. SO, OKAY. THANK YOU. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR COUNCIL QUESTION? UM, COMMISSIONER, COMMISSIONER. UM, I'M HAPPY TO COME BACK, BUT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THE LOCATION IS INDICATED ON THE SITE PLAN, AND SO I THINK IT JUST NEEDS TO HAVE A GRAPHIC REPRESENTATION ADDED. OKAY. I'M FOLLOWING THAT. JUST TO CLARIFY, JUST PROCEDURALLY, I'M, I'M FOLLOWING THAT THEY, THEY, IF THEY WISH TO HAVE THAT HEIGHT SPECIFIED ON THEIR PLAN, THEY MIGHT JUST ADD A, A RECTANGULAR A BOX IN THE AREA THAT IS INTENDED TO BE, AND THAT CAN BE DONE BY MOTIONING FOR A REVISED DEVELOPMENT PLAN. OKAY. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU MR. BUFFET. THANK [00:30:01] YOU. OKAY, BACK TO YOUR, UM, COMMENTS AS THE REPRESENTATIVE IF YOU HAVE ANY. I'M, I'M DONE. THANK YOU. I MISSED Y'ALL. OKAY, SAME HERE. I DID, UH, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS THAT WANNA SPEAK IN ON BEHALF? THANK YOU. HEY, GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M BRENT ALFRED. I'M THE CHIEF CONSTRUCTION, UH, AND OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR DALLAS ISD. UH, MY ADDRESS IS 9,400 NORTH CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 1. I'M HERE TODAY TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF ZONING CASE Z 26 0 0 0 1 6 6 AND ALSO, UH, Z 26 0 0 1 6 7. BETTER KNOWN TO THESE COMMUNITIES AS THE WW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL AND OBADIAH KNIGHT ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. UH, THESE ARE TWO OF THE FIRST SCHOOLS WE ARE BRINGING TOWARD, UH, FORWARD FOR THE 2020 TO 26 NEW REPLACEMENT SCHOOLS INCLUDED IN DALLAS HASEES 20, UH, 26 BOND PROGRAM, A $6.2 BILLION INVESTMENT OVERWHELMINGLY SUPPORTED BY DALLAS VOTE. THE WORK WE HAVE DONE THROUGH OUR 2020 BOND PROGRAM WHERE WE DELIVERED MORE THAN 16 NEW REPLACEMENT IN, UH, SCHOOLS, WE LEARNED A GREAT DEAL THROUGH THAT PROCESS, INCLUDING HOW WE CAN WORK MORE EFFICIENTLY WITH THE CITY STAFF, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND STAKEHOLDERS. AND I ALSO WANT TO EMPHASIZE THAT OUR ENGAGEMENT WITH THESE COMMUNITIES DID NOT BEGIN WITH THE ZONING PROCESS. I KNOW CITY STAFF HAS PROVIDED YOU INFORMATION REGARDING REQUIRED NEIGHBORHOOD NOTICES IN THE RECENT ZONING COMMUNITY MEETING, BUT PRIOR TO THAT, DALLAS HAS DE HELD TWO ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMUNITY MEETINGS WHERE WE LISTENED TO OUR, OUR PARENTS, STUDENTS, ALUMNI, NEIGHBORS, AND OTHER STAKEHOLDERS, AND INCORPORATED THEIR INPUT AND ASPIRATIONS INTO THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE PROJECTS. SO THE PROJECTS YOU SEE BEFORE YOU TODAY ARE NOT SIMPLY DISTRICT PROJECTS. THEY HAVE BEEN SHAPED THROUGHOUT AN ONGOING COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS, AND WE INTEND TO CONTINUE THIS ENGAGEMENT. AND WE'VE MOVED THROUGH DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE TAKEN OUR LESSONS, UH, AND DEVELOPED STANDARDS THAT WE BELIEVE CAN BE CONSISTENTLY APPLIED ACROSS ALL OUR PROJECTS, PARTICULARLY AROUND TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, SITE PLANNING, INFRASTRUCTURE, NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY, AND THE CITY'S DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. BUT WE ARE, WE ARE MOVING WITH A SENSE OF URGENCY. OB KNIGHT HAD TO BE RELOCATED BECAUSE OF A FACILITY SAFETY CONCERN. SAMUEL HAS BEEN RELOCATED SO THAT WE CAN REPLACE AND MODERNIZE A CAMPUS THAT RANKED ONE OF THE, UH, LOWEST AMONGST OUR FACILITIES. UH, AND IN THE GREATEST NEED, WHICH ARE APPROVED TODAY, WE CAN KEEP THESE PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD FOR THEIR PLAN OPENINGS IN 2028 AND 2029. YOU KNOW, CONSTRUCTION COSTS IN DALLAS MARKET ARE CURRENTLY ESCALATING AT APPROXIMATELY 3.9% ANNUALLY ON A PROJECT LIKE SAMUEL, WHERE WE ARE PROJECTED TO INVEST MORE THAN 106 MILLION IN THIS COMMUNITY, THAT REPRESENTS 530,000 UH, DOLLARS OF PURCHASING POWER EVERY MONTH. SO A SIX MONTH DELAY CAN EQUATE TO APPROXIMATELY 3.2 MILLION. AND FOR THOSE, THOSE AREN'T JUST NUMBERS ON A SPREADSHEET, ULTIMATELY THEY BECOME SCOPE. WE CAN NO LONGER AFFORD CLASSROOM SPACE, EDUCATIONAL AMENITIES, SITE IMPROVEMENTS, OR OTHER INVESTMENTS THAT DIRECTLY BENEFIT STUDENTS IN THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THIS CASE? WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR FILLING OUT THE YELLOW CARD. IF YOU WANNA LEAVE IT IN THAT BOX WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED, WE'D APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. YES. MY NAME IS MARIA ROSS AND I AM THE PRINCIPAL OF OBA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS MARIA ROSE AND I AM HONORED TO SERVE AS THE PRINCIPAL OF OBA ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. OVER DIANA IS MORE THAN A SCHOOL TO ME. IT HAS BECOME A VERY MEANINGFUL PART OF MY LIFE. IN MY FIRST YEARS AS A PRINCIPAL, I HAVE HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF WALKING ALONGSIDE OUR STUDENTS, FAMILIES AND STAFF, AND I HAVE SEEN FIRSTHAND WHAT MAKES THIS COMMUNITY SO SPECIAL. I HAVE WATCHED OUR STUDENTS GROW, OVERCOME CHALLENGES, CELEBRATE ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND BELIEVE IN THEMSELVES. I HAVE SEEN OUR STAFF POUR THEIR HEARTS INTO CHILDREN EVERY SINGLE DAY. AND THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE, OB NIGHT HAS REMINDED ME WHY I CHOSE EDUCATION IN THE FIRST PLACE. OUR STUDENTS, OUR OLD BUILDING, STOOD FOR NEARLY 100 YEARS. IT CARRIED GENERATIONS OF MEMORIES, STORIES, ACCOMPLISHMENTS, AND DREAMS. IT WAS MORE THAN BRICK AND MORTAR. IT WAS A PART OF THIS COMMUNITY'S HISTORY. SAYING GOODBYE TO THAT BUILDING HAS BEEN BITTERSWEET BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE MEANING THAT IT CARRY FOR SO MANY FAMILIES. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT SOMETIMES HONORING OUR HISTORY MEANS HAVING THE COURAGE TO BUILD WHAT COMES NEXT. A NEW HOME FOR [00:35:01] OUR KNIGHT GIVES US THAT OPPORTUNITY. IT ALLOWS US TO CARRY THE LEGACY OF THE PAST INTO A NEW SPACE WHERE OUR STUDENTS CAN LEARN, GROW, AND THRIVE. IT GIVES FUTURE GENERATIONS OF NIGHTS A PLACE THAT REFLECTS THE POSSIBILITIES THAT WE SEE IN THEM. THIS PROJECT IS PERSONAL TO ME BECAUSE I HAVE EXPERIENCED THE HEART OF AYA NIGHT. I HAVE SEEN WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THE STUDENTS FEEL VALUED, WHEN THE FAMILIES FEEL WELCOME, AND WHEN THE STAFF COMES TOGETHER WITH ONE PURPOSE TO DO WHAT IS BEST FOR THE KIDS. WE ARE READY FOR THIS NEXT CHAPTER. AND MAINTAINING THE PROJECT SCHEDULE IS INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT FOR OUR STUDENTS, OUR STAFF, AND OUR FAMILIES. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF THE SONY REQUEST SO THAT THIS IMPORTANT PROJECT CAN CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD. WE ARE NOT LEAVING THE LEGACY OF AYA AND I BEHIND. WE ARE CARRYING IT FORWARD. THANK YOU FOR BELIEVING IN OUR STUDENTS, OUR FAMILIES, AND THE FUTURE OF OB ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN YOU GIVE US YOUR ADDRESS? WE HA WE GOT YOUR NAME. I, I'M SO SORRY. THANK YOU. YES. 5 5 5 5 MAPLE AVENUE DALLAS. THANK YOU. WE APPRECIATE YOU, SIR. ANYONE HERE, HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. OH, WE'RE GOOD. OKAY. THANK YOU. ANYONE IN OPPOSITION ON THIS CASE? I BELIEVE WE HAVE ONE PERSON ONLINE. JORGE MARIA WALSH. SHE WAS IN PERSON. THANK YOU. UM, HEARING ANY NO MORE SPEAKERS, CAN WE GET A MOTION? COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. THANK YOU MS. THANK YOU. IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 6 7, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND APPROVE THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AN AMENDED TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN DATED SEPTEMBER 16TH, 2026 IN CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES IN SECTION 1 0 4, AMEND THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN TO INDICATE THE LOCATION OF THE LIBRARY. AND TWO, ADD A LANDSCAPE PLAN EXHIBIT SECOND. THANK YOU. I THINK STAFF HAS A QUESTION. I THINK SO THE QUESTION, SO ADD THE LANDSCAPE PLAN EXHIBIT, UM, IN SECTION 1 0 4, IS THAT RIGHT? WELL, OR, OR, OR AS STAFF AT WHATEVER LOCATION YOU WANNA PUT IT. THAT'S WHERE THE DEVELOPMENT PLAN EXHIBIT IS. PERHAPS IN THE LAND, UH, PERHAPS IN THE LANDSCAPE SECTION. WE CAN, WE CAN ACCOMMODATE THAT. THANK YOU. OKAY. YEAH. AND AGAIN, OUR SECTION AS RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND JUST TO CONFIRM, IT DID SAY IN CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET, RIGHT? UH, YES, SIR. PERFECT. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN FOR THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? UM, I WOULD JUST THANK THE, UM, TRUSTEE, UM, AND MS. THURMAN, UH, FOR THEIR WORK. UH, WE DID HOST A COMMUNITY MEETING. UM, VISD HAD SEPARATELY REACHED OUT TO THEIR, UM, THEIR COMMUNITY. I APPRECIATE THEM, UH, INCLUDING THE BROADER WEST LOVE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE FOLLOW UP MEETING THAT WAS SCHEDULED ON AUGUST THE 31ST, AND WE DID RECEIVE SOME COMMENT. UM, BUT ALL THOSE ITEMS WERE ADDRESSED, UM, IN THE CONDITIONS THAT ARE BEFORE THIS BODY. AND I THINK THERE'S A GREAT DEAL OF ENTHUSIASM WITHIN THE COMMUNITY, UH, FOR THIS NEW CAMPUS AND, UM, CONTINUING TO SERVE THE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE BROADER COMMUNITY. SO I HOPE MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UM, I'LL JUST SAY THANK YOU TO, UM, THE CHIEF AND THE PRINCIPAL, UM, FOR TAKING THE TIME OUT OF YOUR DAY, AWAY FROM THIS CLASSROOMS, AWAY FROM THE STUDENTS TO COME DOWN AND SPEAK. UM, THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT, UM, INITIATIVE TO GO FORWARD. SO THANK YOU, UM, FOR YOUR TIME. UM, HEARING ANY MORE COMMENTS? UH, WE'LL HAVE A VOTE. I'LL, I'M SORRY. OH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER. YES. I WANTED TO ASK, WE, WE DIDN'T HAVE THEM TO DO THOSE EXTREME, UM, UM, UM, UH, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES THAT, UH, STAFF OFTEN ASK, RIGHT? AM I CORRECT? YOU SAID WE'RE MISSING. WHAT WAS THE QUESTION ABOUT? NO, I'M ASKING. SO WE, SO WE, SO I, I'M LOOKING AT THE PLAN TO MAKE SURE, UM, WE DIDN'T ASK THEM TO DO, UH, THOSE EXTREME AMENITIES THAT, UM, EVERY 200 FEET. AM I CORRECT THOSE PEDESTRIAN? I THINK THE AMENITIES WERE, UH, WELL DISCUSSED AND, UM, DECIDED UPON BY BOTH PARTIES. SO, OKAY. SO THAT WAS REDUCED QUITE A BIT. OKAY. AND JUST, I JUST WANNA NOTE, THANK YOU, SIR. OKAY. THANK I CAN SUPPORT THAT. ALL RIGHT. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DR. MONA. [00:40:02] UH, [4. 26-3014A An application for (1) a new Subdistrict for TH-3(A) Townhouse uses on property zoned Planned Development District No. 28; and (2) amendment of “Shopping Center” portion of Planned Development No. 28, on the southwest corner of Mockingbird Lane and McMillan Avenue, and the south line of Winton Street west of McMillan Avenue, AKA 5400 E Mockingbird Lane and 5432 Winton Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to an amended development plan and conditions. Representative: Katherine Durham / Winstead PC Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 14 Z-26-000089] CASE NUMBER FOUR. OH, WELCOME DR. MONA. THANK YOU, JUSTIN. SORRY. ITEM NUMBER FOUR Z 26 0 0 0 8 9. AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR TH THREE TOWNHOUSE USES ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT NUMBER 28 AND TWO AMENDMENT OF SHOPPING CENTER PORTION OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 28 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND MCMILLAN AVENUE AND THE SOUTH LINEUP, WINTERTON STREET WEST OF MCMILLAN AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS 5,400 E MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND 54 32 WINTER STREET. UH, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. THANK YOU DR. MONA. COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, DO YOU WANT THIS BRIEF? DO I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR, UM, REPRESENTATIVE, OUR PLANNER? NO. OKAY. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES. UH, MS. HASHIMI, WHAT IS THE ACTUAL SIZE OF SUBDISTRICT? A I THINK THE OVERALL SITE IS 5.1 ACRES, BUT THE AREA TO THE SOUTH OF THE SHOPPING CENTER ON THE OTHER SIDE OF WINSTON. YEAH, I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE SIZE OF THAT SPECIFIC PORTION, BUT, 'CAUSE WHERE I'M GOING WITH THIS IS WITH, WITH THE TH THREE ZONING, I WAS TRYING TO GET A BALLPARK ESTIMATE OF HOW MANY UNITS MM-HMM . BECAUSE WE DID GET A LETTER OR SEVERAL, UM, BALLOTS EX UH, EXPRESSING SOME CONCERN THAT THEY WERE GONNA BE OVERWHELMED BY THE DENSITY. SO I WAS TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THAT WOULD BE. I UNDERSTAND THAT MAYBE APPLICANT HAS A ANSWER TO THAT, BUT I DON'T HAVE IT ON TOP OF MY NECK. OKAY. UM, MY OTHER QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH REMOVING THE LIMITATION OF 8,000 SQUARE FEET ON BARS AND RESTAURANTS IN THE SHOPPING CENTER. THEY STILL, THEY KEPT THE CAP OF 80,300 SQUARE FEET FOR ALL USES AND 30,340 SQUARE FEET FOR OFFICES, BUT THAT WOULD SEEM TO OPEN IT UP TO ABOUT 50, I'M SORRY, 50,000 SQUARE FEET OF, OF BARS AND RESTAURANTS. UM, WAS THERE ANY CONCERN ABOUT THAT CAP BEING REMOVED? UH, BECAUSE IT, THEY ARE NOT INCREASING THE NON, UH, RESIDENTIAL AREA AND THEY WANT TO HAVE MORE FLEXIBILITY IN MIX OF ALL THOSE USERS. UM, WE DIDN'T SEE ANY PROBLEM, UH, WITH, WITH THAT BECAUSE IT'S GIVING THEM MORE FLEXIBILITY. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU FOR TENANT. I I CAN ANSWER THAT, THAT ACREAGE QUESTION. I WENT AND I WENT, OH, THANK YOU. WENT AND MEASURED IT. NO, IT'S, IT'S ALL GOOD. I WENT AND MEASURED THAT, SO I, IT'S ABOUT THAT SOUTHERN PARCEL, THE ABANDONED PARKING LOT IS 0.86 ACRES. UM, AND THEN WE JUST NEED TO, TO FIND OUT WHAT KIND OF, UM, UNITS YOU CAN PUT THERE. TH THREE HAS A MAXIMUM DENSITY OF 12 UNITS PER ACRE. RIGHT. SO YOU'RE LOOKING AT POSSIBLY YOU CAN'T NINE OR 10, SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YEAH. OKAY. AND THE HEIGHT IS LIMITED TO 36 FEET 'CAUSE IT DEFAULTS TO TH THREE EVEN THOUGH THE OVERALL HEIGHT FOR THE PD IS 44 FEET. YES. ALRIGHT. YES, CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR STAFF? PERFECT. UM, MONA, CAN YOU DO ME A FAVOR AND READ THIS INTO THE RECORD ONE MORE TIME? MM-HMM . UH, THE ITEM ONE MORE TIME? YES. OKAY. YEAH. UH, Z 26 0 0 0 8 9. AN APPLICATION FOR ONE, A NEW SUB DISTRICT FOR TH THREE TOWNHOUSE USE ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 28 AND TWO AMENDMENT OF SHOPPING CENTER PORTION AND OF PLAN DEVELOPMENT NUMBER 28 ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND MACMILLAN AVENUE AND THE SOUTH LINE OF WINTERTON STREET WEST OF MACMILLAN AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS 54, UM, HUNDRED E MOCKINGBIRD LANE AND 54 32 WIND DISTRICT STAFF. RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS. THANK YOU FOR THAT MOUTHFUL. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM IN FAVOR? COME ON DOWN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. WELCOME. YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU COMMISSIONERS. [00:45:01] MY NAME IS CATHERINE DURHAM. MY ADDRESS IS 2 7 2 8 NORTH HARWOOD STREET AND I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. COMMISSIONER KINGSTON, YOU HAVE A MOTION? I DO. IN THE MATTER OF D 2 6 0 0 0 0 8 9, I MOVE TO THE CLOSE ACT RECORD AND APPROVE IT SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE IN SUBSECTIONS 28.1052 COULD READ USES OR LIMITED TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA WITH NO SINGLE BALL RESTAURANT GREATER THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. AND IF I HAVE A SECOND, I HAVE BRIEF COMMENT. OKAY. BE, I'M SORRY I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE CONDITION. COULD WE VOICE A LITTLE SHAKY? COULD YOU READ IT IN TO THE RECORD AGAIN AND THEN SEND IT TO MICHAEL SO HE'LL HAVE IT FOR SURE, BUT YES. CAN YOU READ IT ONE MORE TIME FOR US? SORRY. ALRIGHT. SECTION 28.105, SUBSECTION TWO COULD READ FAR AND RESTAURANT USES ARE LIMITED TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA WITH NO SINGLE BAR OR RESTAURANT GREATER THAN 5,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. I WILL JUST DID. SO YOU SAID BAR AND RESTAURANT USES ARE OVERALL LIMITED TO 20,000 SQUARE FEET? YES. AND NO SINGLE USE MAY BE 5,000 SQUARE FEET OR MORE. NO SINGLE OF OF THOSE BAR AND RESTAURANTS CAN BE GREATER THAN 5,000. GREATER THAN 5,000. OKAY. AND, AND WE'LL GET THE OFFICIAL LANGUAGE WRITTEN, BUT I WANNA MAKE JUST TRANSLATE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY COMMENT BRIEFLY? UM, BECAUSE THIS IS CLOSE TO TRANSIT, THERE'S A DARK STOP DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET. I THOUGHT IT WAS APPROPRIATE TO BRING THE SHOPPING CENTER TO THE NEW PARKING REGULATION. BUT WITH THAT, I THINK IT'S ALSO APPROPRIATE TO LIMIT THE USE OF BAR RESTAURANT, WHICH IS AN INTENSIVE USE REGARDING THE ADOPTION OF CH THE STREET BEHIND THIS THAT'S GENERALLY BEEN DEVELOPED IS DUPLEX ANYWAY, SO I DON'T SEE ALLOWING CH PARTICULARLY THIS CLOSE TO TRANSIT AS BEING ALL THAT GREAT AN INTENSIVE, UM, OF A USE, UM, GIVEN THE LIMITATION OF THE SITE. SO I THINK, UM, THIS CLOSE TO A DARK STOP AND WITH EVERYTHING WE'RE GOING ON IN THE AREA, I THINK THESE CHANGES ARE APPROPRIATE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [6. 26-3016A An application for an amendment to Planned Development District No. 437, on the southeast line of Kit Lane, west of Emily Road, AKA 13408 Kit Lane. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to an amended development plan, landscape plan and conditions. Representative: Jennifer Hiromoto / Buzz Urban Planning Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 11 Z-26-000124] ALRIGHT, CASE NUMBER SIX, DR. MONA. ITEM SIX Z 26 0 0 0 1, 24. AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT NUMBER 4 37 ON THE SOUTH. OH, I'M SORRY, MONA. WE ARE GONNA WAIT TO READ IT INTO THE RECORD, SO I DON'T WANT YOU TO HAVE TO REPEAT YOURSELF AGAIN. UM, DO WE NEED THIS ONE BRIEFED OR HAVE QUESTIONS? NO, NO. NOTHING. NOTHING, NOTHING. PERFECT. NOW YOU CAN READ IT IN THE RECORD, MONA. OH, OKAY. , UH, AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 4 37 ON THE SOUTHEAST LINE OF KEITH LANE, WEST OF EMILY ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS THIRTEEN FOUR A HUNDRED EIGHT KEITH LANE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, LANDSCAPE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HIROTO. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. JENNIFER HIROTO, 1 0 2 3 3 EAST NORTHWEST DALLAS NORTHWEST HIGHWAY IN DALLAS. UM, WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THIS MATTER FOR 30 DAYS SO THAT WE CAN HOLD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING AT THE END OF THE MONTH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THE NOTIFICATION. UM, GETTING A MOTION. I DO MR. CHAIR, SO IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 24. I MOVE FOR DELAY UNTIL THE OCTOBER 22ND CPC MEETING. SECOND. PERFECT. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER COX FOR THE MOTION AND THE COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND. UM, IS ANY DISCUSSION? NO, [00:50:01] NO NEED, NO DISCUSSION. OKAY. UM, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [7. 26-3017A An application to create a new subdistrict within the McKinney Avenue Special Provision Sign District on property zoned LC Light Commercial Subdistrict within Planned Development No. 193, with a McKinney Avenue Perimeter Subdistrict SPSD Overlay, on the north corner of N. Hall Street and Oak Grove Avenue, AKA 3301 Oak Grove Avenue. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to conditions. SSDAC Recommendation: Pending September 15 Meeting/ Applicant: John Schellhase / PG PDP Dallas Uptown LLC Representative: Jake Fields / The BFC Group Planner: Mona Hashemi Council District: 14 Z-26-000155] ALL RIGHT. CASE NUMBER SEVEN. DO WE NEED THIS ONE BRIEFED OR HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR, UM, STAFF MEMBER? COMMISSIONER KINGSTON? GOT IT, JUDGE. OH, SORRY. COMMISSIONER KINGSTON HAS A CONFLICT ON THIS ONE. IT WOULD BE STEPPING AWAY. NO, SURE. WE DON'T NEED A BRIEF. PERFECT. YOU WANNA READ IT INTO THE RECORD? DR. MONA. ITEM Z 26 0 0 0 1 55, AN APPLICATION TO CREATE A NEW SUBDISTRICT WITHIN THE MCKINNEY AVENUE SPECIAL PROVISION SIGN DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONED LC, LIGHT COMMERCIAL SUB-DISTRICT WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 1 93 VIDA MCKINNEY AVENUE PERIMETER SUB-DISTRICT SPSD OVERLAY ON THE NORTH CORNER OF NORTH HALL STREET AND OAK GROVE AVENUE, ALSO KNOWN AS 33 0, UH, ONE OAK GROVE AVENUE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS. AND, UH, S-S-D-A-C RECOMMENDATION, UM, WAS APPROVAL, UH, WITH A MINOR CHANGE. UM, DO I NEED TO, I, UM, I ACTUALLY, SO I THINK THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF, UH, CHATTING AND I THINK THAT THAT IS GONNA BE COVERED THROUGH A MOTION. SO, OKAY. THERE, THERE'S A, THERE'S A GOOD AMOUNT TO READ, SO DON'T WORRY ABOUT IT, BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU DR. MONA. UH, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THANK YOU, HONORABLE. HEY, MS. CHAIR, PHILLIP KINGSTON, 37 0 1 TURTLE CREEK. I'M MOSTLY JUST HERE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS, BUT I DO WANT TO THANK VERY SINCERELY DR. HASHIMI AND MR. PEPE FOR SPEEDING THIS DEAL ALONG. IT'S UNDER SOME FINANCIAL PRESSURE. UM, AND THANKS ALSO TO COMMISSIONERS, UH, KAUFMAN AND CARPENTER FOR HELPING HASH OUT THE LAST DETAILS FOR THIS CASE FOR COMMISSIONER SIMS, WHICH HE FOUND OUT HE HAD TODAY. . THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? PERFECT. CAN WE GET A COM, UM, A MOTION? COMMISSIONER SIMS? YES. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 5 5. I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO CONDITIONS WITH THE FOLLOWING AMENDMENT IN SECTION, UH, 7.1507 B THREE. ADD THE FOLLOWING WORDS TO THE END OF THE TEXT FOR ALL FACADES IN SECTION SEVEN DASH 1,507 D SIX. ADD THE FOLLOWING WORDS TO THE END OF THE TEXT. SO LONG AS THE TOTAL SURFACE AREA OF ALL PROJECTING ATTACHED SIGNS ON THE BUILDING IS LESS THAN 650 SQUARE FEET. AND THEN FINALLY IN SECTION SEVEN DASH 7 5 15 8 SUBSECTION, I, UH, ADD THE FOLLOWING TEXT TO THE END OF THAT SECTION. PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SIMS, VICE CHAIR SIMS. AND, UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [8. 26-3018A An application for 1) R-7.5(A) Single Family District; 2) TH-1(A) Townhouse District, and 3) a new Specific Use Permit for a public school on property zoned Planned Development District No. 825, on the north line of Palisade Drive between N. Prairie Creek Road and Greendale Drive, bounded by Palisade Drive, N. Prairie Creek Road, Greendale Drive, and Tonawanda Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval of 1) R-7.5(A) Single Family District, 2) TH-1(A) Townhouse District, and 3) a new Specific Use Permit for a public school, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Dallas Independent School District Representative: Elsie Thurman Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 5 Z-26-000166] ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE, UM, CASE NUMBER EIGHT. UM, COMMISSIONER SERATO, DO YOU NEED THIS ONE BRIEF OR HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE APPLICANT? YES, OF, I MEAN, FOR THE REPRESENTATIVE? YEAH. CAN I HAVE A BRIEF AND I ALSO DO HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. BATE, YOU'RE UP FOR A FULL BRIEFING. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON COMMISSION. JUST GIMME A MOMENT. FOR SOME REASON MY PRESENTATION ISN'T IN HERE. OKAY, THANK YOU. [00:55:07] I'M TRYING TO DO TWO THINGS AT ONCE HERE TO EITHER FIND IT ON OUR WEBSITE OR JUST DO IT OVER MY LAPTOP. APOLOGIES FOR THAT. DIDN'T ANTICIPATE IT WOULDN'T BE ON HERE. I CAN ALSO SEND IT TO YOU IF IT HELPS. YEAH, WHATEVER'S FASTEST. NO TOMATO THROWING. NO, I'M JUST KIDDING. TAKE YOUR TIME, RIGHT? OH, I GOT IT ON HERE. OKAY. JUST A MOMENT. IT'S LOADING. OKAY. AT THE SPEED OF, UH, NOT THE SPEED OF SOUND, THAT'S FOR SURE. YEAH, I THINK IT'S GONNA BE EASIER TO JUST DO IT THROUGH MY LAPTOP. ONE MOMENT. THERE WE GO. I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA TO START TELLING JOKES. YEAH, WE'LL SEE IF THIS FINISHES LOADING BEFORE I'M DONE WITH THE PRESENTATION. ALRIGHT, SORRY ABOUT THAT. COMMISSIONERS, UH, THIS IS CASE Z 26 1 66. IT IS AN APPLICATION FOR ONE R 75, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT AND TWO TH ONE A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT, AND THREE, A NEW SPECIFIC USED PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT THROUGH 8 2 5 ON THE NORTH LINE OF PALISADE DRIVE BETWEEN NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD, GREENDALE DRIVE BOUND BY PALISADE, NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK, GREENDALE AND TWANDA DRIVE ABOUT 33 ACRES IN SIZE. UH, IT'S LOCATED OVER IN PLEASANT GROVE AND THIS IS AN AREA OF THE MAPS THAT'S THE EXISTING, UH, WW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL. THIS IS THE ZONING MAP. AS YOU CAN SEE, THE MAJORITY OF THE AREA IS ZONED R SEVEN FIVE A. UH, THE UNDERLYING PD IS ACTUALLY MORE OR LESS R SEVEN FIVE A WITH CHANGES AND EXCEPTIONS AND ENHANCEMENTS FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL. THEN THERE'S CR TO THE NORTH OVER ON, UH, OVER ON BRUTON ROAD. SO AS MENTIONED, IT'S CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH THE PUBLIC SCHOOL AND THE APPLICANT INTENDS TO READ ABOUT THE SITE WITH A NEW PUBLIC SCHOOL. UM, AND AS PART OF THE CITY OF DALLAS AND DISD INITIATIVE, THE APPLICANT'S REQUESTING A NEW BASE ZONING DISTRICT AND A SUP FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL. THESE ARE THE SITE PHOTOS AND, UH, WE'RE LUCKY THAT WITH ALL THE STUDENTS BEING SOMEWHERE ELSE RIGHT NOW IS EASY TO GO AND JUST TAKE SOME DRONE PHOTOS. AND NORMALLY THAT PROBABLY WOULD RAISE A LOT OF SUSPICION VERY QUICKLY. SO WAS ABLE TO GET SOME GOOD SHOTS HERE, BUT THIS IS THE EXISTING SCHOOL LOOKING SOUTHEAST AND THEN TO THE EAST. AND THE IDEA HERE IS JUST, I THINK TO GIVE YOU A SENSE OF WHAT THE CURRENT LAYOUT OF THE SITE LOOKS LIKE, THIS IS A PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH. THIS IS WHAT'S UNDER THE R SEVEN FIVE PROPOSAL. SO THIS WOULD BE REZONED FROM THE PD TO R SEVEN FIVE. THE SCHOOL INTENDS TO SELL OR OTHERWISE DISPOSE OF THIS PARTICULAR TRACT OF LAND. LOOKING TOWARDS THE WEST, YOU CAN SEE THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS AND THE NATURE OF HOW IT'S BEEN BUILT OUT UNDER R SEVEN FIVE AND THEN TO THE SOUTHWEST. SOMETHING I'LL POINT OUT AS WELL IS, UH, AS WE LOCATE THESE PHOTOS, SEEING KIND OF WHERE THE PLACEMENT OF THE FENCES ARE AND WHATNOT, AS THAT'LL COME UP IN A BIT, LOOKING TOWARDS THE EAST. THEN TOWARDS THE SOUTHWEST, AGAIN, WE HAVE SOME OF THESE FENCES HERE ALONG THE PROPERTY LINE, THEN TOWARDS THE WEST. SO HOPEFULLY GETTING A GOOD SENSE OF WHAT THE CAMPUS IS OVERALL IN TERMS OF SIZE. THEN FROM STREET LEVEL, AGAIN, LOOKING TOWARDS THAT PARKING LOT TO THE NORTH, THEN GOING WAY OVER ON PRAIRIE CREEK IN TWANDA, LOOKING TOWARDS THE WEST AND THEN SOUTHEAST AWAY FROM THE CAMPUS, THEN NORTHEAST TOWARDS THE CAMPUS. TWANDA IN GREENDALE, THEN SOUTHWEST AWAY FROM IT NORTH NORTHWEST AGAIN, NOTING THAT FENCE LINE THERE. THIS IS COMPARISON OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE'RE SHOWING IN HERE HAVE TO DO WITH THE NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. UM, GIVEN THAT THE INTENT HERE IS FOR A, UH, PUBLIC SCHOOL, UH, SO EXISTING PD 8 2 5, AS I MENTIONED, [01:00:01] THE BASE OF IT IS ACTUALLY R SEVEN FIVE, BUT THEN THESE VARIOUS STANDARDS APPLY FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL. SO 20 TO 40 FEET OF FRONT YARD SETBACK. UM, THE MAXIMUM FLOOR AREA WAS SET TO 298,000 SQUARE FEET, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 45 FEET AND THE 20% MAXIMUM LOT COVERAGE. THE R SEVEN FIVE A FOR THE NORTH SITE, UH, THE EXISTING PARKING LOT, IT'S YOUR STANDARD R SEVEN FIVE. UH, IT WOULD BE A 25 FOOT FRONT YARD SETBACK, 10 FEET, 15 FEET, 7,500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE. THE REQUESTED TH ONE FOR THE ACTUAL CAMPUS IS THE FRONT YARD SETBACK OF ZERO FEET. UH, THAT GOES TO ZERO FEET AS WELL FOR SIDE AND REAR FOR RESIDENTIAL USES 10 FEET FOR OTHER, UH, THERE'S NO MINIMUM LOT SIZE OR ANYTHING FOR A SCHOOL. THERE IS OF COURSE DIFFERENT LOT SIZES AND SUCH FOR RESIDENTIAL USES, WHICH WOULDN'T BE THE CASE HERE. THE HEIGHT IS 36 FEET WITH A FOOTNOTE THERE THAT, UH, INSTITUTIONAL USES, THEY'RE NOT LIMITED TO A DISTRICT HEIGHT. THEY'RE ACTUALLY GIVEN THE ABILITY TO DO ANY LEGAL HEIGHT. UM, AND THEN LAW COVERAGE IS LIMITED TO 25% FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. UH, THE PROPOSED SPUP CONDITIONS, THERE'S NO EXPIRATION DATE. THE LANDSCAPING WOULD BE IN ACCORDANCE OF THE ARTICLE 10. THERE'D BE A MINIMUM OF SIX FOOT WIDE SIDEWALKS WITH FIVE FOOT BUFFERS ALONG ALL STREET FRONTAGES. UH, THE SVP WOULD ALLOW LIGHT STANDARDS TO GO UP TO 80 FEET IN HEIGHT. SO IT'S REALLY PUTTING A CAP ON THE, ON THE LIGHT STANDARDS FOR HEIGHT. UH, 'CAUSE AS MENTIONED EARLIER, INSTITUTIONAL USES IN GENERAL DON'T HAVE THESE, UH, MAXIMUM HEIGHTS, UH, AS COMPARED TO OTHER USES. AND THE LIGHTS MAY ONLY OPERATE BETWEEN 6:00 AM AND 10:00 PM MONDAY THROUGH SATURDAY AND MUST MEET THE INTERNATIONAL DARK SKY ASSOCIATION STANDARDS. THOSE ARE STANDARDS THAT OUR PERMITTING DEPARTMENT IS FAMILIAR WITH, AND WE'VE SEEN THESE CONDITIONS USED IN A LOT OF, UH, S AND PDS FOR BOTH PUBLIC AND PRIVATE SCHOOLS. UH, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR PEDESTRIAN ACCESS TO THE SCHOOL ENTRANCES AND A REQUIREMENT FOR PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES TO BE PROVIDED IN OUTDOOR LEARNING AND STUDENT SPACES. UH, THERE'S A REQUIREMENT FOR THE TMP TO BE SUBMITTED. I DID RECEIVE SOME UPDATED LANGUAGE FROM MR. NAVAREZ REGARDING THIS. JUST SAYING THAT IT WOULD HAVE TO UNDERGO THE ENGINEERING PLAN REVIEW PROCESS, WHICH IS A PROCESS THAT'S, IT'S ACTUALLY CODIFIED IN, UH, THE SUBDIVISION SECTION OF OUR CODE. UH, THE SEP SITE PLAN AS SHOWN HERE, IT'S SHOWING WHERE THE GENERAL BUILDABLE AREA FOR THE MAIN SCHOOL BUILDING WOULD BE IN A LIMIT OF 320,000 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA. AND THEN SHOWS THE DISTANCES FROM THE MAXIMUM SORT OF EDGES OF THAT BUILDING ENVELOPE TO THE VARIOUS PROPERTY LINES. UH, I KNOW SOME QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP EARLIER AND THAT I THINK WE'LL HAVE A ROBUST DISCUSSION ON IS THE, LET'S SAY, SIMPLICITY OF THE SITE PLAN HERE COMPARED TO, I THINK WE'VE NORMALLY SEEN FOR SCHOOLS. AND I THINK MYSELF, MY MANAGEMENT TEAM WILL ALL BE VERY HAPPY TO ANSWER AND GET INTO THE DISCUSSION THERE FORWARD. DALLAS 2.0 DESIGNATES IT AS COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL SCHOOLS ARE CONSIDERED A SECONDARY USE IN COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL AND A SCHOOL ALREADY EXISTS ON THIS SITE. AND WE BELIEVE THAT PROPOSED USE WOULD BE COMPATIBLE WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0. UH, BEING WITHIN AN ESTABLISHED SUBDIVISION THAT SUPPORTS THE R SEVEN FIVE BASE FOR THE NORTHERN PORTION THAT'S CURRENTLY BEING USED AS PARKING, UH, THE TH ONE BASE IS APPROPRIATE FOR THE REQUEST AS WELL, GIVEN THAT THE SCHOOL WOULD USE THE FULL SITE. UH, THE REASON FOR THE TH ONE IS SPECIFICALLY IT HAS TO DO REALLY WITH OUR REQUIREMENTS AROUND SETBACKS AND FENCES. UH, WHEN YOU LOOK AT OUR CODE FENCES IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS CANNOT GO IN REQUIRED FRONT YARDS UNLESS THEY'RE FOUR FEET AND HEIGHT OR LESS. IN OTHER WORDS, IN THE TYPICAL THINGS THAT ARE BUILT IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS, YOU CAN HAVE A LITTLE WHITE PICKET FENCE NO PROBLEM. BUT IF YOU WANT A BIG SIX FOOT EIGHT FOOT NINE FOOT FENCE, UH, IT'S GOTTA BE PAST HERE OR AT THE SETBACK LINE AT LEAST, UM, THAT GOES FOR WHETHER IT'S A SCHOOL OR WHETHER IT'S A HOUSE. UH, THE TH DISTRICT, GIVEN THAT IT HAS ZERO FRONT YARD SETBACK, AND GIVEN THAT BEING A CENTRAL LOT, ALL THE STREET FRONTAGES WOULD BE FRONT YARDS THAT WOULD ALLOW FOR THEIR FENCE TO REMAIN WHERE IT IS TO HAVE IT EXTENDED ALL THE WAY TO THE PROPERTY LINE. UH, WHEREAS USING THE R 75 DISTRICT, FOR INSTANCE, IT WOULD IMPOSE THAT 25 FOOT SETBACK FOR THE FENCE. UH, THAT'S NOT SOMETHING WE CAN EXEMPT THROUGH. AN SUPS CAN ONLY BECOME MORE RESTRICTIVE THAN THE BASE ZONING, NOT LESS RESTRICTIVE, I THINK WAS MENTIONED HERE. I I THINK I WENT INTO ALL THE DETAIL RIGHT THERE WITHOUT EVEN LOOKING AT THE SLIDE. UH, THE PROPOSED SIDEWALK CONDITIONS WOULD IMPROVE PEDESTRIAN SAFETY. UH, HAVING INCREASED BUFFERS I THINK IS ALWAYS GREAT TO HAVE, ESPECIALLY AROUND SCHOOLS. UH, THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES PROMOTE WALKABILITY FOR STUDENTS. UH, EVEN THOUGH THEY WOULDN'T BE ON THE SIDEWALKS THEMSELVES, IT WOULD STILL BE PROVISIONED ON THE CAMPUS. AND IT SEEMS, YOU KNOW, WITHIN THE AREAS WHERE THE STUDENTS WOULD BE GATHERING AND ENTERING. UH, SO AGAIN, THAT DOES PROMOTE WALKABILITY FOR THE STUDENTS. UH, OUR RECOMMENDATION WILL BE APPROVAL OF ONE R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, TWO TH ONE 10 HOUSE DISTRICT, AND THREE AND NEW SEP FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL, SUCH AS A SITE PLAN. AND THERE'LL BE CONDITIONS WITH CHANGES THAT I'LL READ INTO THE RECORD. UH, I JUST HAVE TO GET THE LANGUAGE FROM MR. NAVAREZ REGARDING THAT TMP THING. WITH THAT, THANKS TIME FOR QUESTIONS AND SUCH. ALRIGHT, THANK YOU MR. BATES. UH, QUESTIONS FOR MR. BATES ON CLARITY. [01:05:01] UH, YES. UM, SEVERAL, I KNOW YOU SPOKE TO A FEW OF THESE ALREADY. UM, I, LET ME NOT COMMENT. UM, SO YOU EXPLAINED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHY THE TH ONE, UM, YOU KNOW, MOSTLY ABOUT THE SETBACKS AND THE FENCING. UM, WHAT, WHAT WAS THE MOTIVATION BEHIND THAT DECISION AND NOT JUST KEEPING THE PD AND ADDING, YOU KNOW, THE SUP FOR SCHOOL? I KNOW YOU SAID SUVS CAN MAKE THINGS, UM, YOU KNOW, MORE RESTRICTIVE AND RATHER THAN LESS RESTRICTIVE, BUT, UM, YEAH, CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE MORE THOROUGHLY PLEASE? YEAH, I THINK MICHAEL MIGHT BE ABLE TO SHED SOME MORE LIGHT ON THAT IN TERMS OF THE, UH, THE APPLICANT'S DECISION TO GO WITH A BASE DONING DISTRICT AND SUP RATHER THAN AMENDING THE PD. YEAH, AND I, I THINK THIS, I WANNA TAKE ONE STEP BACK. UM, 'CAUSE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT SAMUEL TODAY, BUT VERY SOON WE'LL BE TALKING ABOUT A LOT OF DISD SCHOOLS. THEY HAVE 25 PLUS SCHOOLS THAT WILL PROBABLY NEED, THAT HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED FOR NEEDING ZONING CHANGE SO THAT THEY CAN DO THE, THE UPGRADES THAT WERE VOTED ON IN THE, IN THE MOST RECENT TISD BOND. SO AFTER THAT, WITH THAT COMING AROUND AND AFTER THEIR PRIOR BOND, WE WORKED, UM, MUCH OF THIS YEAR AND, AND EVEN SOME OF THE PRIOR YEAR TO SEE WHAT CAN BE DONE TO, TO HELP THE SCHOOLS MOVE THROUGH THEIR, THE PROCESS IN MORE STREAMLINED WAY. GENERALLY, UM, THAT LEADS US TO, TO HERE THEY'RE LOOKED AT A GENERAL ZONE DISTRICT RATHER THAN A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. BECAUSE IF WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT SEVERAL SCHOOLS, GENERALLY AS A PRINCIPAL, UH, A GENERAL ZONE CHANGE AND AN SUP ARE A LOT FASTER AND EASIER TO PROCESS FOR OUR STAFF THAN A PLAN, A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT OR AN AMENDMENT TO A PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT AS A GENERAL PRINCIPAL. UM, SO IT'S NOT JUST, IT'S NOT JUST THIS ONE. UM, BUT WE ARE ABLE TO PROCESS THOSE SUVS FASTER FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS. BUT A BIG ONE BEING, UM, THEY HAVE TO MEET ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF CODE. THEY DON'T HAVE, UM, UNIQUE ONES ON SITE THAT NEEDS TO BE ADJUSTED, NEEDS TO BE AMENDED. NO, THEY NEED TO MEET THE BASE REQUIREMENTS OF CODE UNDER THE BASE DISTRICT. IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, UH, THE TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT DID HAVE TO BE, UM, PURSUED FOR THEM TO ALLOW THEIR FENCES. AND I DON'T THINK WE FIND ANY, UH, ANY OTHER INCONSISTENCY ISSUES WITH THAT BEING THE BASE DISTRICT, BECAUSE IT'S A RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT, IT ONLY PERMITS RESIDENTIAL. IT ONLY PERMITS SINGLE FAMILY AND, AND DUPLEX. UM, BUT THE OVERALL DENSITY IS SIX UNITS PER ACRE, AND THE OVERALL DENSITY OF UNIT DENSITY OF R SEVEN FIVE IS 5.8. SO IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT DIFFERENCE IN THE BASE. SO WE'RE PRETTY COMFORTABLE WITH THAT BEING THE BASE IF IT ALLOWS THEM TO ACHIEVE SOME OF THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED. NAMELY, THE STATE REQUIRED SIX FOOT FENCES. OKAY. SO COULD THE DISTRICT NOT APPLY FOR SOME TYPE OF WAIVER FOR FENCE HEIGHTS OR SETBACKS IN THIS CASE, RATHER THAN REZONING IT AS TH ONE, YOU KNOW, TAKE ANOTHER, LIKE IS THERE ANOTHER ROUTE THEY CAN TAKE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE THIS BODY TO SWITCH THE ZONING TO TH ONE? YEAH, AND I'VE GOT TWO, TWO FACETS TO THAT. THEY COULD, IF THEY, WELL, WE NEED A BASE IF WE'RE TAKING IT AWAY FROM A PD TO BE IN REGULAR ZONING SO THAT WE HAVE EASIER PROCESSING, EASIER, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S UNDERSOLD TO THE DEGREE THAT ALL PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICTS CREATE, UM, SOME OF OUR PERMITTING, UM, ISSUES LATER DOWN THE ROAD BECAUSE THEY TAKE THINGS, THEY, THEY MOVE THEM AROUND, UH, THEY REDUCE SOME THINGS AND THEY INCREASE SOME OTHER THINGS. THAT CREATES PERMITTING HURDLES PRETTY MUCH IN ANY KIND OF PROJECT. UM, SO IF WE'RE LOOKING AT DOING A JOURNAL ZONING DISTRICT TO ACCOMMODATE THEM AND, UH, IN A WAY THAT'S NOT UNIQUE SPECIFICALLY TO THAT SITE, UM, LIKE IN A PD, UH, THERE NEEDS TO BE A BASE DISTRICT OF SOME KIND, UH, TO PUT THE SUP ON TOP OF. UM, SO IF THEY WERE TO GO TO AN R DISTRICT, YES, THEY HAVE TO SET THEIR FENCES BACK FURTHER. I THINK THEY WILL OFFER SOME REASONS WHY THAT'S DIFFICULT FOR THEM, OR THEY HAVE TO PURSUE A SPECIAL EXCEPTION FOR OFFENSE. THEY'D HAVE TO DO THAT FOR EACH SCHOOL THAT THEY GO THROUGH, UM, DOING THAT. AND IT'S, IT'S POSSIBLE TO THEM, BUT, YOU KNOW, THEY ARE HERE FOR, YOU KNOW, ZONING IS, ZONING IS ULTIMATELY THE COUNCIL'S DECISION. UM, VERSUS THOUGH THE BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT, BOARD ADJUSTMENT CAN MAKE ADJUSTMENTS. BUT I MEAN, IF THEY ARE HERE, UM, TRYING TO ACCOMMODATE ALL THE THINGS THEY, THEY DO STAFF, AND I DON'T THINK THAT THE DISTRICT FOUND A, A DOWNSIDE, UH, TO THE TH AS [01:10:01] THE SOLUTION TO, TO GET THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS FASTER RATHER THAN COMING TO A DIFFERENT BOARD, UM, AND ASKING FOR ANOTHER APPROVAL. SO THERE ARE OTHER COURSES FORWARD, BUT THIS STAFF AND DISD FUND WAS THE EASIEST AND QUICKEST WAY TO MOVE FORWARD. IS THAT WHAT I'M HEARING? YES. AS A PART OF IT. AND, AND WITH THAT BEING IN MIND THAT IT'S PART OF A PATTERN OF THE SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF SCHOOLS THAT THEY'RE GONNA MOVE FORWARD, UM, TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR BOND SCHEDULE. THERE'S, IT'S THE FIRST OF, OF MANY. THEY'LL, THEY'LL SPEAK TO THAT, I'M SURE. OKAY. AND THEN I DO HAVE A QUESTION, AND YOU, UH, MR. BA ALSO MENTIONED THIS, THE VAGUENESS OF THE SITE PLAN, LITERALLY JUST A RECTANGLE THAT SAYS BUILDABLE AREA, UM, THE LACK OF A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, A LANDSCAPE PLAN. UM, CAN YOU GUYS SPEAK TO ANY OF THAT? WE JUST LOOKED AT ANOTHER SCHOOL THAT HAD ALL OF THOSE THINGS IN PLACE, VERY DETAILED PLANS, WHEREAS THE SO WHERE, UM, MY QUESTION IS ABOUT CONSISTENCY FROM SCHOOL TO SCHOOL. UM, LEMME STOP THERE. YEAH. AND I, I THINK THAT'S, WHAT'S IT CALLED? WHAT WAS THE LAST ONE? AND NIGHT, I THINK NIGHT OF THIS CYCLE IS, IS LIKELY THE EXCEPTION IN THE DEGREES TO WHICH, UM, THEIR PLANS HAVE BEEN, UM, REVIEWED AND THE DETAIL IN WHICH THEIR DESIGN AND ENGINEERING HAS BEEN DONE THAT'S ALLOWED THEM TO, FOR NIGHT TO HAVE THAT, UM, UH, LEVEL OF DETAIL PRESENT. UH, ON THE OTHER HAND, IT'S WORTH CONSIDERING DISD, THEY GO THROUGH A SIGNIFICANT PROCESS AFTER THIS TO GET THEIR SITES, UH, DETAILED DESIGNED IN A DETAILED WAY. UM, SO AS A RESULT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOSING ANYTHING BY SAYING THIS IS THE BUILDABLE AREA VERSUS PUTTING EVERY NOOK AND CRANNY OF A BUILDING AND THEIR CORNERS. I DON'T THINK WE'RE LOSING ANYTHING SIGNIFICANTLY IN TERMS OF WHAT WE ARE HERE FOR AS A, AS A, UH, A BODY AND A DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, CONFIRMING THAT PROPER LAND USES ARE IN PROPER PLACES, AND THAT BUILDINGS, UH, AND USES ARE OPERATING IN A SAFE WAY, UM, UNDER ZONING. SO I DON'T THINK WE LOSE MUCH BY HAVING, UH, NOT HAVING EVERY SINGLE CORNER OF THE PLAN THERE. UM, THE OTHER THINGS THAT THE SITE PLAN NOTES, OTHER THINGS THAT THE SITE PLAN NOTES, WHICH ARE ACCURATE IS PARKING MUST BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE BASE CODE, WHICH IS NINE AND A HALF SPACES PER CLASSROOM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. UM, ALL OF THEIR INGRESS EGRESS, I THINK THEY ARE WORKING THROUGH THAT. AND A LOT OF THAT COMES FROM THE REVIEWS THAT THEY GET LATER AS THEY FIND THINGS LIKE EASEMENTS. THEY, UM, THEY DO THINGS LIKE THE, THE FULL FIRE REVIEW, EXCUSE ME, HAS TO BE PROVIDED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE STREET DESIGN MANUAL. AND THAT'S IN, IN THE, THE PLAN AS WELL TO SPEAK TO THE INGRESS EGRESS. SO I DON'T THINK WE, AND, AND YOU KNOW, WHEN A PLAN COMES IN, AND IT DOES SHOW EVERY LITTLE BUILDING LINE THOUGH, COULD, CAN STILL UNDER OUR CODE BE AMENDED TO A DEGREE, UH, THROUGH THE MINOR AMENDMENT PROCESS. BUT I DON'T THINK WE GAIN A, A TON OF WHAT OUR ROLE IS HERE, UM, BY HAVING EVERY SINGLE BUILDING LINE ON THERE. WELL, UM, I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY MEETING, AND I THINK THERE ARE ALREADY PLANS, LIKE EVERY DETAIL OF THIS ENTIRE SPACE HAS ALREADY BEEN OUTLINED AND SHOWN TO THE COMMUNITY. UM, SO ONE OTHER THING I HEARD IN A COMMUNITY MEETING WAS ABOUT, UM, YOU KNOW, TRAFFIC, UM, THEY'RE LOSING THE ENTIRE PARKING LOT ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE SCHOOL ALONG PALISADE THAT'S BEING SOLD. UM, AND THERE WAS CONCERNS ABOUT, YOU KNOW, BUS BUSES COMING IN AND OUT. THERE ARE MAGNET SCHOOLS THAT DROP OFF AND PICK UP HERE EVERY DAY. IT'S NOT JUST THE, THE SPARTAN KIDS THAT ARE, YOU KNOW, DROPPED OFF AND PICKED UP HERE EVERY DAY. SO, UM, ANY MORE INSIGHT INTO COULD THERE BE A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOU KNOW, ADDED TO THIS. RIGHT. AND, AND SO THAT'S AN, I WOULD SAY THAT'S JUST ANOTHER QUESTION OF, OF WHAT ARE, WHAT ARE WE GAINING THROUGH THIS PROCESS BY HAVING IT AT THIS STAGE RATHER THAN AT THE PERMITTING STAGE? 'CAUSE WE DISCUSSED, I THINK WE, WE MENTIONED OUR, OUR, WE HAVE SOME SMALL TWEAK TO THE LANGUAGE, UM, IN FRONT OF US, BUT IT, IT'S STILL GOTTA GO THROUGH, SUBMIT THAT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN ONCE THEY KNOW EXACTLY HOW THEIR SITE IS TO BE LAID OUT WITH REGARDS TO FIRE. AND I, I KNOW YOU SAID THAT A LOT OF IT'S DESIGN, BUT I, WE, WE HAVE A LOT OF EXAMPLES AS THEY MOVE THROUGH, THEY HAVE DESIGNS, BUT WHEN THEY GET INTO SITE PLAN REVIEW AND ALL OF THOSE THINGS, THEY DISCOVER A LOT. [01:15:01] UH, WE ARE THE BEGINNING OF THE PROCESS, NOT THE MIDDLE OF IT. UM, AND THEY DISCOVER A LOT OF THINGS THAT LEADS TO THOSE KINDS OF CHANGES. SO, UM, HAVING THAT ABILITY, RATHER THAN COMING BACK TO THE PLAN COMMISSION, THE COUNCIL TO AMEND A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN OR AMEND A SITE PLAN, UH, I THINK THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE, LOOK THE KIND OF FLEXIBILITY THEY'RE LOOKING FOR AND, AND IS CLOSER TO BEST PRACTICE. SO THEY WILL HAVE TO DO A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, AND IT HAS TO BE APPROVED IN SATISFACTION OF, OF TRANSPORTATION, AND IT HAS TO TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THOSE THINGS. NOT JUST BUSES, BUT, UM, THE SCHOOL ZONES, THE, THE QUEUING THROUGH THE SITE, UM, ONSITE QUEUING AND, UM, CROSSING GUARDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. SO I THINK THAT'S ALL PART OF THAT, AND WE'RE NOT CONCERNED BECAUSE IT'S STILL A REQUIREMENT. OKAY. I GUESS, AGAIN, CONCERNS JUST AROUND, UM, WILL THERE BE CONSISTENCY AMONG HOW ALL OF THE, THE SCHOOLS ARE TREATED, UM, SINCE WE'RE AT THE BEGINNING OF THIS THING YOU MENTIONED IT'S GONNA BE LIKE 20 PLUS SCHOOLS THAT ARE GONNA COME THROUGH THIS BODY. UM, AND SO WILL ALL OF THESE SCHOOLS BE TREATED WITH CONSISTENCY AND, AND WHAT WE'RE ASKING FROM THEM, WHAT DETAILS WE'RE LOOKING FOR? YOU KNOW, TREES BEING, YOU KNOW, SAVED SIDEWALKS, ALL OF THAT COMES INTO QUESTION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT ALL THESE SCHOOLS AND ALL PARTS OF THE CITY. UM, AND SO IS, IS STAFF LOOKING TO BE CONSISTENT? AND IS DISD, WHICH I KNOW YOU CAN'T ANSWER THAT PIECE, IS ARE YOU LOOKING TO BE CONSISTENT WITH HOW ALL OF THESE SCHOOLS ARE TREATED WHEN THEY'RE COMING ACROSS THIS BODY AB ABSOLUTELY. I, I THINK IT IS IN THE INTEREST OF STAFF, IN THE INTEREST OF THE BODY AND IN, IN THE INTEREST OF THE DISTRICT TO BE EXTREMELY CONSISTENT, BECAUSE THAT IS, THEY DIDN'T ASK US FOR IT TO BE EASY, BUT THEY DID ASK US FOR IT TO BE PREDICTABLE . UM, AND SO THAT CONSISTENCY WE'RE GOING TO BE DRILLED DOWN ON FOR, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE DISTRICT, FOR THE BENEFIT OF THE CITY AND THE DEPARTMENT. UM, I THINK THAT THIS IS AN APPROACH THAT, UH, HAS BEEN DISCUSSED A LOT. AND LIKE I SAID, UH, SINCE THEIR LAST BOND BASICALLY FINISHED IN TERMS OF, UH, ZONING APPROVALS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BUILDING NOW. UM, BUT THAT'S WHAT'S BEEN DISCUSSED INTERNALLY AND WITH THE DISTRICT TO BE CONSISTENT. UM, SO YES, AND, AND WHAT DIRECTION WE GET FROM PLAN OR FROM PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNSEL ON CASES LIKE THIS, I THINK IS, IS GOING TO BE AN IMPORTANT TEMPLATE. UM, WOULDN'T SAY IT'S THE FINAL UNTIL WE, WE HAVE ALL THAT WE'RE GONNA INCORPORATE BEST PRACTICE, BUT I, I THINK WE HAVE A LOT OF THE GOOD THINGS THAT WE KNEW. UM, WE ARE, WE ARE USED TO, UM, BUT AGAIN, PREDICTABLE. SO WE ARE DEVOTED TO THE CONSISTENCY IN THESE, AND IT'S EASIER ON US TOO. OKAY. I DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER QUESTIONS. I KNOW IF ANYBODY ELSE IN THE BODY DID. YES. UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER WAS FIRST. SO ARE WE ESTABLISHING A NEW TEMPLATE FOR ALL SCHOOLS, OR IS THIS THE WAY WE'RE GONNA TREAT D-I-S-D-I-S-D SCHOOLS? ARE WE GONNA TREAT, SAY, RISD SCHOOLS? UH, PRIVATE SCHOOLS, CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE, ALL OF THEM ARE GONNA BE ALLOWED TO GO THROUGH WITH THIS SORT OF SITE PLAN AND REVIEWED OUT OF THE PUBLIC. I, I, I THINK THAT'S A REASONABLE EXPECTATION. LAND USE IS, WE'RE FOCUSED ON LAND USE IN THIS SITUATION. MM-HMM . UM, I THINK THAT'S ALSO REFLECTS BEST PRACTICE, UM, ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO A GREAT DEGREE WITH THINGS THAT WE'VE STUDIED, UM, STREAMLINING AND CONSISTENCY. AND, AND A LOT OF PLACES DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE ZONING FOR THESE THINGS. UM, MANY, MOST BIG CITIES, UH, TYPICALLY. SO I, I THINK THAT SINCE WE HAVE TO BE LIMITED TO, TO THE LAND USE, I THINK CONSISTENCY IN THAT IS, IS WHAT YOU'LL SEE. UM, YES, AND WE, WE'VE, WE'VE STROVE FOR CONSISTENCY IN THE PAST, BUT I THINK WE'RE GOING TO TEMPLATIZE THESE THINGS BECAUSE WE ARE, WE ARE FORCED TO BECAUSE OF THE, UH, THE VOLUME WE'RE GONNA SEE, UH, WITH THE SITE PLAN, UM, DELINEATING A BUILDABLE AREA. HOW WOULD ATHLETIC FACILITIES FALL UNDER, UNDER THIS SITE PLAN, IF YOU PEOPLE WANTED TO ADD A STADIUM OR, YOU KNOW, BLEACHERS, ATHLETIC FIELDS? DO THEY HAVE TO BE WITHIN THE BUILDABLE AREA? I, I THINK OUR INTERPRETATION THAT THE ATHLETIC, THE ATHLETIC AREAS, UH, THEY CAN WORK WITH, WITH THE PLAN THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF US. I, I WOULD SAY THAT STRUCTURES THAT SIGNIFICANT, UH, LIKE BUILDING AND FLOOR AREAS CAN'T NECESSARILY BE ADDED ON TO THAT, BUT, UM, THINGS LIKE ATHLETIC AREAS, UM, IT'S REASONABLE TO, TO HAVE THOSE ADDED IN. WE DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR LIGHTS WRITTEN INTO THE CONDITIONS. IF THERE'S OTHER THINGS THAT, UH, THE BODY OR COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO SEE THOSE, THOSE CAN BE ADDED THROUGH CONDITIONS. I THINK THAT'S A DIRECTION THAT WOULD BE BE HELPFUL TO, TO THINK ABOUT. [01:20:04] SO ARE YOU ANTICIPATING WITH THIS SORT OF SITE PLAN THAT IF SOMEONE WANTED, IF, IF THIS SITE OR A SIMILAR SITE WANTED TO ADD EXTENSIVE ATHLETIC FACILITIES, THEY COULD JUST DO SO BY RIGHT. OR I WOULD SAY THAT FLOOR THAT THEY'D HAVE AN ISSUE WITH FLOOR AREA IF, IF IT'S, YOU KNOW, OCCUPIABLE FLOOR AREA AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. IT'S NOT WRITTEN IN, IT'S NOT, WELL, IT'S A BUILD. I MEAN, IT, IT'S NOT JUST A LIMIT ON THE AMOUNT OF BUILDABLE AREA. IT, IT SHOWS A SPECIFIC LOCATION THAT IS THE BUILDABLE AREA. Y YES. AND, AND, AND I, I AGREE. BUT THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, A DI DISTINCTION BETWEEN LIKE A BUILT UP, LIKE, WHAT DO YOU CALL 'EM, ATHLETIC FIELDS VERSUS, UH, ATHLETIC FACILITIES OR THINGS WITH SIGNIFICANT FLOOR AREA. WELL, THAT'S WHY WE HAVE THE BUILDABLE AREA, UH, DESIGNATED. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER COX. UH, I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS HERE. UH, PARTICULARLY AFTER COMMISSIONER TALKED ABOUT THE, UH, BUILDABLE AREA. SO I UNDERSTAND THAT YOU SAID THAT 10 ACRES OR, OR, OR THAT SOME OF THE ACREAGE IS BEING SOLD, UH, UH, THE, THE NORTHERN PORTION OF THE SITE. SO WHICH, WHICH WOULD YOU DESIGNATE AS, AS THE NORTHERN PORTION HERE ON THIS MAP? THE PORTION, SO THE, THE LOT TO THE NORTH THAT CURRENTLY HAS A PARKING LOT, UM, ON THE OTHER SIDE OF, UH, WHAT IS THAT PALISADE? I THINK, UH, THIS NORTHERN LOT, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THEY INTEND TO SELL IT OR OTHERWISE DISPOSITION THAT PROPERTY. UM, AND THAT WILL END UP BEING ZONED. WHAT, HOW, UH, THE PROPOSAL IS TO ZONE IT R SEVEN FIVE A, WHICH WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING ZONING, WHICH, AND SO R SEVEN FIVE A IS THE CONS, IS THE SURROUNDING ZONING, IT'S ALSO THE BASE OF THE PD? CORRECT. IT'S THE BASE OF THE PD. I MEAN, IF, IF THEY, IF THEY KEPT THAT ZONE AS THE PD RIGHT NOW, THEN YOU COULD STILL BUILD SINGLE FAMILY ON THERE. UM, SO IT'S NOT THE WORLD'S MOST NECESSARY THING, BUT ALSO THERE'S NO REZONING THAT PORTION R 75, IT DOESN'T REALLY CHANGE ANY OF THE ENTITLEMENTS OR YARD LOT AND SPACE REGULATIONS ON THAT PORTION. IT JUST CHANGES THE DESIGNATION FROM THE PD TO R 75. WOULDN'T THAT IMPACT THOUGH THEIR, UH, TRAFFIC, UH, IMPACT STUDY AND, AND, UH, FLOW OF BUSES AND THE INTERNAL? I THINK THAT WHEN THEY DEVELOP THEIR TMP, WHETHER IT WOULD BE NOW OR DOWN THE ROAD, UH, THE TMP WOULD BE DEVELOPED. I THINK JUST TAKING INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THE CURRENT, UH, CURRENT SITUATION OR CURRENT BUILT AREA IS. UH, I THINK THE EQUIVALENCE KIND OF ON THE FURTHEST END OF THAT WOULD BE WHEN YOU HAVE A SCHOOL THAT'S BEING BUILT IN A, LET'S SAY, UP AND COMING AREA WHERE THERE'S JUST A, YOU KNOW, A LOT OF NEW HOUSING DEVELOPMENT. THE SCHOOL MIGHT BE IN WHAT'S RIGHT NOW A GREENFIELD. AND I THINK THE WAY THAT ENGINEERING LOOKS AT THAT, AND MAYBE DAVID CAN SHED SOME LIGHT ON THAT. I THINK SOME ASSUMPTIONS ARE MADE ABOUT POTENTIAL GROWTH IN THE AREA, POTENTIAL TRAFFIC GROWTH IN THE AREA. UH, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THEY HAVE TO ALSO JUST UTILIZE, WELL, WHAT'S CURRENTLY ON THE GROUND THERE RIGHT NOW. IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN THEY PUT TOGETHER THEIR TMP, THERE MAY NOT BE MUCH TO CONSIDER WITH WHAT HOUSES WOULD BE UP THERE, UH, BECAUSE IT'S JUST, IT'S NOT CURRENTLY DEVELOPED. RIGHT. AND, AND THE ONLY THING I'D ADD IS THAT I, I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY, THAT THEIR PLAN IS TO ACCOMMODATE THEIR TRAFFIC FLOW ON THE PRIMARY SCHOOL SITE. SO, UM, AND I, I KNOW YOU MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT THE SIDEWALKS, YOU KNOW, ARE STANDARD FOR SCHOOLS TO HAVE SIDEWALKS AND BENCHES AND TRASH CANS ALL THE WAY AROUND THEIR SITE. DO WE HAVE THAT ON THIS SITE? UH, THIS ONE DOES REQUIRE THE, UH, SIDEWALKS TO BE SIX FOOT WIDE WITH FIVE FOOT BUFFERS, WHICH IS OUR STANDARD THAT WE'VE BEEN, UH, PROMOTING, UH, FOR THE PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES. THEY ARE ALLOWED TO BE WITHIN THE CAMPUS, MORE WITHIN THE, YOU KNOW, STUDENT ACCESSIBLE AREA RATHER THAN ON THE PERIMETER. UH, I THINK THAT'S BEEN, UH, THAT CONDITION IN PARTICULAR, I THINK HAS BEEN EVOLVING OVER THE LAST YEAR OR TWO THAT HAVE BEEN HERE, UH, SINCE THESE HAVE COME UP. UM, IT, I THINK THAT THE, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT THOSE CONDITIONS HAVE JUST KIND OF CHANGED A LITTLE BIT TO WHERE I THINK GIVEN THE FEEDBACK WE'VE RECEIVED FROM ELECTED OFFICIALS, UH, APPOINTED OFFICIALS FROM THE SCHOOL DISTRICTS THEMSELVES AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, PRIVATE SCHOOLS AND WHATNOT, IS I THINK GENERALLY THE APPETITE IS MORE FOR THOSE AMENITIES TO BE WITHIN THE CAMPUS RATHER THAN ON THE PERIMETER. CAN ALWAYS BE, UH, COULD ALWAYS BE CHANGED. BUT I MEAN, UM, IF SOMEONE IN LEADERSHIP WANTS TO CORRECT ME, MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT'S SHIFTING OVER TO PROVISIONING THEM ON SITE. WELL, DOESN'T, UH, WHETHER THAT IS UTILIZED AND, AND LEFT ON CAMPUS AS OPPOSED [01:25:01] TO BEING IN THE RIGHT OF WAY. DOES THAT DETERMINE WHO HAS TO MAINTAIN AND, UH, TAKE CARE OF THAT, UH, THOSE FACILITIES? IF IT WAS ON CAMPUS, IT WOULD BE TO BE, UH, MAINTAINED BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. BY THE SCHOOL DISTRICT. RIGHT. SO IF AND WHEN THIS LAND IS SOLD UP HERE, DO THEY HAVE TO ALSO ADHERE TO THOSE, UH, SIDEWALK THINGS? NO. SO THE SCP ONLY, UH, THE, THE CONDITIONS TO THE SCP AND THE OVERALL AREA OF THE SCP WILL ONLY COVER THE MAIN CAMPUS AREA. UH, SO THEN THE NORTHERN PORTION, IF THAT WERE SOLD OFF, IF SOMEONE TOOK IT AND SUBDIVIDED IT TO BUILD SINGLE FAMILY HOUSES, THAT WOULD JUST BE REGULATED BY OUR NORMAL SIDEWALK, UM, RULES AND REGULATIONS WITHIN THE BASE CODE. I HOPE IT WORKS. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER COX? ACTUALLY, I'M GOOD CHAIR. UM, I HAVE SIMILAR QUESTIONS TO MS. . THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER SIM, MR. MR. GRAY, JUST A QUICK QUESTION TO CLARIFY THAT, LOOKING AT THE FULL SITE, IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, SOME OF IT IS GONNA BE ZONED TH ONE AND SOME OF IT REMAINS AT THE BASE ZONING. COULD YOU CLARIFY WHICH PARTS ARE WHICH FOR ME AGAIN, AND I APOLOGIZE IF I MISSED IT EARLIER. YOU'RE FINE. IT'S, UM, IT'S A LITTLE HARD TO SEE JUST BECAUSE WE DID NOT GET AN UPDATED GIS IN TIME RIGHT. WITH A SEPARATION. BUT CAN YOU SEE MY CURSOR IN GENERAL ON THE I DO, YEAH. SCREEN THERE. SO THIS VERY LARGE TRACT HERE, LET'S CALL IT ABOUT 31 ACRES. THIS TRACT WOULD BE TH ONE, AND THE SUP WOULD BE CO-TERMINUS WITH THAT. OKAY. THIS TRACKED UP HERE, WHICH CURRENTLY HAS THE PARKING LOT, THAT WOULD BECOME JUST SIMPLE, R 75 A GREAT, SO SEPARATED BY PALISADE DRIVE TO THE NORTH. GOOD. SO LET ME HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. UM, REFRESH MY RECOLLECTION. IF WE, IF WE ZONE THE, WHAT, ROUGHLY 30, 30 ODD ACRES TO TH ONE AND THE SCHOOL WERE TO NOT EXIST, WHAT DOES SB EIGHT 40 ALLOW TO BE BUILT IN THAT SPACE? UH, SB EIGHT 40 WOULDN'T HAVE ANY APPLICABILITY THERE. OKAY. UH, THE TH DISTRICTS ONLY ALLOW SINGLE FAMILY AND DUPLEX AMONG OTHER, UH, VARIOUS ASSORTED USES. UH, NONE OF WHICH ARE CAPTURED BY SB EIGHT FORTY'S LOCATIONAL REMEDY. UH, SO IT WOULD JUST BE THE TH ONE. OKAY. AS I HEARD MR. PEPPI RIGHT, THAT IN TERMS OF DENSITY, THAT, UH, R SEVEN FIVE DEN IS 5.8 PER ACRE, AND TH ONE DENSITY IS ROUGHLY SIX. GREAT. THANK YOU. YEP. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS THERE? YES. UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, OR WAS THAT KINGSTON, THEN HAMPTON? OKAY. SO WHAT I'M HEARING STAFF SAY IS, PREVIOUSLY DISD HAD TO BRING A LANDSCAPE PLAN, A MORE DETAILED DEVELOPMENT PLAN, AND A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO THIS BODY AND TO COUNCIL, SO THAT THE PUBLIC GOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW ALL OF THAT AT THIS STAGE, AND AGAIN, AT THE COUNCIL STAGE AND WEIGH IN ON IT. AND NOW YOU'RE BRINGING US A BARE BONES THING AND SAYING, LOOK, STAFF'S JUST GONNA TAKE CARE OF THIS. TRUST US. ESSENTIALLY, YOU'RE ASKING THIS BODY AND COUNSEL TO ABDICATE OUR RESPONSIBILITIES AND GIVE UP OUR CONTROL OVER THE PROCESS IN LIEU OF STAFF CONTROLLING EVERYTHING IN A MUCH LESS TRANSPARENT AND PUBLIC WAY. THAT'S WHAT I'M UNDERSTANDING THIS DUE PROCESS IS GOING TO DO. CORRECT. YEAH. I'M, I'M, I'M HAPPY TO SPEAK TO THAT. UM, YOU ANSWERED, AND THEN WE'RE, AND THEN WE'RE, WE'RE SAMPLING IT IN DISTRICT FIVE. WE'RE STARTING THE PROCESS HERE IN DISTRICT FIVE, BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, THAT WOULDN'T FLY IN DISTRICT 14, RIGHT? WHAT'D SHE SAY? SO, OKAY. YOU BROUGHT THE DISTRICT UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES WHEN I SAY YES TO THIS. OKAY. SO THANK YOU. UM, I, I'LL START WITH, SO PART OF THE QUESTION IS ABOUT HOW THE PUBLIC IS INVOLVED IN THIS. SO DISTRICT CAN PROBABLY SPEAK MORE TO THIS. I THINK THAT THEY HAVE SOME ENGAGEMENT STRATEGIES THAT THEY WANT TO DO FOR ALL THEIR SCHOOLS TO, UH, INVOLVE THE PUBLIC. I THINK IF WE SEE OURSELVES AS THE CITY, AS A, AS A PERSON WHO MODERATES BETWEEN THE DISTRICT AS WELL, AND IF WE CAN PUT OURSELVES IN THAT POSITION, THERE ARE THINGS WE CAN STILL DO, UM, TRA TRANSPORTATION EMPLOYEES DO, CAN, AND DO GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC CONCERNS IN, IN, THROUGH REPORTS, THROUGH CALLS TO THE DEPARTMENT, THROUGH THE COUNCIL OFFICE. THOSE CAN BE INCORPORATED AND ADDRESSED IN, IN A TMP PROCESS. SO THERE IS, THERE IS STILL THAT OUR, NONE OF OUR TRANSPORTATION STAFF LIVES IN, [01:30:01] IN A VACUUM WITHOUT, UM, UM, PUBLIC INPUT. THEY'RE, THEY ARE WELL, UH, INFORMED ABOUT A LOT OF THESE THINGS. SO THAT IS STILL PART OF IT. YOU KNOW, THAT'S VALUABLE INFORMATION THAT A TRANSPORTATION STAFF CAN, UM, INTEGRATE INTO THAT PART OF THE PROCESS. UM, UH, YOU ALSO MENTIONED LANDSCAPE PLANS. I DON'T THINK, TYPICALLY WE WOULD HAVE LANDSCAPE PLANS IN MOST OF THE SCHOOLS THAT WE PROCESSED IN THE LAST BOND. MOST OF THEM DID NOT HAVE LANDSCAPE PLANS. THEY RATHER DEFAULTED TO, TO ARTICLE 10. UM, AND AGAIN, WITH THE LEVEL OF DETAIL THAT'S ON THE SITE PLAN, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE GAINING BY HAVING EVERY NOOK AND CRANIUM OF THE BUILDING DISPLAYED, WE, WE KNOW WHERE THE BUILDING IS. WE ARE HERE TO DETERMINE WHERE LAND USE IS APPROPRIATE, HOW MUCH OF A LAND USE IS APPROPRIATE. WE'RE GETTING MOST OF THAT DETAIL HERE. AND, AND BEYOND THAT, IT, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S, IT'S A HUNDRED PERCENT HANDS OFF. GI GIVE US DIRECTION FOR CONDITIONS. IF YOU, IF THERE'S SOMETHING YOU'D LIKE TO SEE PUT THEM THROUGH THIS PROCESS. WE'RE STILL, WE'RE STILL HERE, WE'RE STILL GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS. UM, THE BEST PRACTICE FOR SCHOOLS IS GENERALLY THAT ZONING ALLOWS THEM, BUT THEY HAVE STANDARDS, THEY HAVE RULES THAT THEY FOLLOW, AND THEY'RE, THEY'RE JUST CONSISTENT. SO IF YOU HAVE THOSE, UH, GIVE THEM TO US AND, AND GIVE THEM TO THE DISTRICT, I THINK THAT IF THEY'RE PREDICTABLE AND REASONABLE TO PROBABLY COMPLY AND WE CAN INCORPORATE THEM WELL, AND THAT SHOULD HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS WHERE THEY'RE APPROVED. YOU COULDN'T ANSWER WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THEY WANNA PUT SPORTS FIELDS AND FACILITIES AROUND SPORTS FIELDS. YOU, YOU FUMBLED ON ANSWERING THAT. WELL, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO A COMMUNITY BECAUSE USUALLY THESE CAMPUSES, LIKE THIS CAMPUS ARE SMACK DAB IN THE MIDDLE OF PEOPLE'S NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO IF THE ISD WANTS TO COME LIGHT IT UP LIKE A CHRISTMAS TREE, FIVE NIGHTS A WEEK, SEVEN NIGHTS A WEEK, AND HAVE ACTIVITIES TILL 10 O'CLOCK AT NIGHT, THAT'S IMPORTANT. THAT'S WHY THIS PROCESS EXISTS. AND KINGSTON, REMEMBER, THIS IS JUST A BRIEFING. WE, WE'LL GET A CHANCE TO GET INTO THIS DEEPER IN A SECOND. I'M ASKING A QUESTION. SO WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY IS THIS PROCESS WILL ELIMINATE A LOT OF THAT OVERSIGHT. CORRECT. SO WE DO HAVE STANDARDS FOR LIGHTING. I I HEARD THAT ADDRESS. WE HAVE STANDARDS FOR LIGHTING BUILT IN HERE, WHICH IS THE SAME ONES THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH, WITH THE LAST, UH, THE TAIL END OF THE LAST BOND CYCLE. UH, AND THEN I THINK WE MAYBE ASK ABOUT ATHLETIC FACILITIES. LIKE I SAID, THOSE NOT TYPICALLY BEING STRUCTURES. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT, UH, PART OF THE, THE SITE PLANS. THEY DON'T HAVE TO BE GENERALLY, THEY CAN BE, UH, PERMITTED EITHER WAY. UH, BUT I STAND BY MY ANSWER WITH REGARDS TO FLOOR AREA THAT'S PERMITTED OR, OR NOT PERMITTED. NO QUESTIONS. NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I JUST WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE QUESTIONS, UM, ON THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. UM, I KNOW THIS WAS SOMETHING THAT I SAW IN SOME OF THE COMMENTS ON THE CASE THAT I, UM, RECENTLY HAD AND IT'S NOTED TO BE REVIEWED AT PERMITTING. IS THAT THE RECOMMENDATION FROM, UM, TRAFFIC AND PUBLIC WORKS? IS THAT THE STANDARD PROCESS THAT WE HAVE NOW? OR IS THIS A REVISED PROCESS? I THINK THEY, I THINK THEY LET US KNOW WE SHOULD CHANGE THE LANGUAGE THAT'S THERE. UH, YEAH, IT WOULD BE CHANGED TO BE, UH, SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW BY THE DIRECTOR WITH THE ENGINEERING PLAN APPROVAL PROCEDURE, UH, ENGINEERING PLAN, APPROVAL PROCEDURE SPECIFICALLY IS SOMETHING IN OUR CODE UNDER CHAT, UNDER SUBDIVISION, UGH, ARTICLE EIGHT, I BELIEVE. UH, I DON'T KNOW IF, DAVID, DO YOU WANT TO, SORRY TO MAKE YOU PINCH HIT, BUT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE, YOU KNOW OKAY. UH, SOME DETAILS ON THE ON WHAT THAT REVIEW LOOKS LIKE. UM, IS IT COMING TO THIS BODY OR IT'S NOT? I, THAT'S MY UNDERLYING QUESTION. RIGHT. I DIDN'T THINK THAT, LEMME TAKE A QUICK LOOK. YEAH. AS, AS DRAFTED, THEY HAVE TO SUBMIT A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN TO THE SATISFACTION OF THE TRANSPORTATION, NOT TO THE PLAN COMMISSION, BUT IT, WELL, IT SAYS PERMITTING IN THE, AND SO THAT'S GONNA BE REVISED LANGUAGE RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. IS THAT CORRECT? YES. CORRECT. YEAH. SO IT WOULDN'T BE AT PERMITTING. THERE'S ACTUALLY, I THINK IT'S THE ENGINEERING PLAN APPROVAL PROCEDURE THAT OCCURS BEFORE THE FINAL, YOU KNOW, YOU SUBMIT FOR YOUR BUILD PERMIT. UM, AS I'M READING IT HERE, IT'S SECTION 51, A DASH 8.404. UH, JUST SAYS GENERALLY, UM, A PERSON SEEKING APPROVAL OF ENGINEERING PLANS FOR INFRASTRUCTURE MUST NOT SUBMIT THOSE PLANS UNTIL PRELIMINARY PLAN HAS BEEN APPROVED FOR THE PROPERTY, WHICH THE INFRASTRUCTURE IS TO SERVE. AFTER APPROVAL OF THE PRELIMINARY PLAT PLANS FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE MUST BE SUBMITTED TO THE DEPARTMENT, THE DIRECTOR SHALL REVIEW THE PLANS SUBMITTED UNDER THIS SECTION FOR COMPLETENESS. UH, THE SECTION THEN GOES INTO DETAIL ON WHAT THE CONTENT'S, UH, REQUIRED TO HAVE IN THERE. [01:35:01] UM, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT GETS INTO ALL THE, LET'S SAY, ENGINEERING DETAILS. I THINK THAT JUST THAT LIVES OUTSIDE OF CODE ITSELF AND MORE JUST GOES INTO BEST PRACTICES OF, UH, LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS, WHICH I'M NOT EVEN GONNA TRY TO GET INTO THAT 'CAUSE UH, I'M NOT AN ENGINEER. UM, BUT ALL THAT TO SAY IS THAT THE, THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE THAT CHANGED OVER TO SUBMITTED FOR REVIEW BY DIRECTOR WITH THE ENGINEERING PLAN APPROVAL PROCEDURE, THAT IS SPECIFICALLY REFERRING TO 51 A DASH 8.404, WHICH WOULD OCCUR BEFORE SUBMITTING FOR THE COMMERCIAL BILL PERMIT. SO, AND I'LL JUST USE THE EXAMPLE BECAUSE IT WAS A QUESTION THAT CAME UP AT A RECENT COMMUNITY ME MEETING THAT I ATTENDED REGARDING A SCHOOL. HOW WERE THE CROSSWALKS BEING HANDLED? WHERE WAS THE QUEUING ON SITE? SO HOW WOULD THAT INFORMATION, UM, BE COMMUNICATED TO THE COMMUNITY? I THINK AT THAT POINT IT WOULD BE INCUMBENT ON DISD TO, UH, DO THAT. IF, YOU KNOW, IF IF THIS WERE TO BE RECOMMENDED FOR APPROVAL AND THEN ADOPTED BY COUNCIL IN CURRENT FORM, THEN UH, ANY SUBSEQUENT ENGAGEMENT WOULD BE, I THINK THE PURVIEW OF EITHER CITY COUNCIL WORKING WITH DISD OR DISD WORKING, YOU KNOW, DOING IT DIRECTLY WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO I, THE ONLY THING I NEED ADD IS THAT, GO AHEAD. THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS, IS IS ALSO SIGNED BY THE PRINCIPALS. UH, SO THEY ARE PART OF THE OPERATING PLAN. I THINK THEY OFTEN MAKE THEM IN CONJUNCTION WITH PARENTS. OKAY. UM, SO I KNOW SOME OF OUR OTHER RECENT SUVS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT, UM, THAT HAVE UTILIZED, I GUESS, A PROCEDURE THAT HAD IT AS PART OF THE SUP, WE WOULD STILL REGULARLY SEE THEM, AND I DON'T REMEMBER THE EXACT LANGUAGE, BUT EFFECTIVELY IT WAS A BIANNUAL REPORTING OR AN ODD NUMBER REPORTING YEAR. AND IF THERE WERE COMMENTS OR IF THEY WEREN'T RECEIVED, THEN THAT NOTICE WAS GIVEN TO, UM, THE PLAN COMMISSION PLAN COMMISSION WAS NOTIFIED ON THAT. THAT DOESN'T SEEM TO BE, UM, REFLECTED IN, IN THE PROPOSED CONDITIONS HERE. IS THAT, IS THAT A, A RECOMMENDED CHANGE BY STAFF AS WELL? WELL, THIS BEING TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROCEED IF THEY WERE INSUFFICIENT WITH SOMETHING, THEY WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO PROCEED WITH PERMITTING. BUT IS THERE A BIANNUAL OR AN ODD YEAR, WHATEVER, YOU KNOW, LANGUAGE IS, IS RECOMMENDED AS STAFF CONTINUING THAT REQUIREMENT? UH, LONG-TERM COMPLIANCE IS REQUIRED AS PART OF THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IN THE, IN THE YEARS THAT FOLLOW, I DON'T KNOW IF A TWO YEAR A, A BIANNUAL REVIEW IS WHAT THAT WILL ARRIVE AT. OKAY. AND THEN, AND I CAN GO FIND THE LANGUAGE FROM ANOTHER RECENT CASE, BUT IT, THERE WAS A REPORTING BACK TO PLAN COMMISSION ON OTHER RECENT CASES. SO IS, AND I DON'T SEE THAT HERE. SO IS STAFF NO LONGER RECOMMENDING THAT? OH, I THINK, UH, MR. NAVARRE IS STEPPING FORWARD. THANK, THANK YOU, COMMISSIONERS. I DO WANNA SPEAK ON THAT. AND THE, REGARDING, REGARDING THE, UM, BIANNUAL UPDATES AND THAT, UM, WE KNOW THERE'S LACK OF COMPLIANCE, LACK OF ENFORCEMENT, AND LACK OF, UM, ENFORCEMENT, MEANING THE CITY'S WE ARE VERY REACTIVE. WE DON'T HAVE THE TOOLS OR, UM, FRANKLY, STAFF TO REMIND SCHOOL OPERATORS THAT THEY'RE DUE FOR A BIANNUAL UPDATE. UM, WE'RE VERY REACTIVE. WE HAVE A TEMPLATE THAT WE MAIL OUT TO SCHOOLS WHEN WE HEAR THAT THEIR TRAFFIC OPERATIONS AREN'T OPERATING THE WAY THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO. THAT SOUNDS REDUNDANT, BUT WE, AT THAT POINT, WE SEND OUT A LETTER TO THE SCHOOL PRINCIPAL WHO IN TURN REACHES OUT TO OUR TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS TEAM, AND WE ALL FIGURE OUT A WAY TO RESOLVE THE ISSUE THAT PERHAPS MAY HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP BY THE COMMUNITY. UH, SO THAT, THAT'S THE REALITY, THAT WE ARE NOT ENFORCING THAT BIANNUAL. AND AS FAR AS I KNOW, I CAN COUNT WITH MY FINGERS HOW MANY SCHOOLS IN DALLAS ARE ACTUALLY COMPLYING WITH THIS BIANNUAL UPDATE. I THINK THAT'S IMPORTANT BECAUSE EVERY TIME THAT THE CONVERSATION COMES UP, I ALWAYS SAY, ARE, YOU KNOW, ARE WE, ARE WE PUTTING SOMETHING IN WRITING THAT WE KNOW IT'S NOT GONNA BE ENFORCED? UH, I DON'T LIKE THAT. I FRANKLY DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE REQUIRING SOMETHING THAT I KNOW SCHOOL DISTRICTS ARE UNABLE TO NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANT TO JUST SIMPLY THE, THE FISCAL, THE, THE, THEIR ABILITY TO HIRE SOMEONE TO, AND TO THAT EXTENT, I ALWAYS LET SCHOOL DISTRICTS KNOW, I CARE MORE ABOUT YOUR PRINCIPAL TOUCHING BASE, YOU KNOW, GETTING IN TOUCH WITH THE CITY WHEN THERE'S AN ISSUE, MORE SO THAN YOU HIRING AN X THOUSAND DOLLARS OF [01:40:01] THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS CONSULTANT TO, UH, COMMUNICATE WITH US AND LETTING US KNOW THAT EVERYTHING'S FINE. UH, SO I I, THAT, THAT IS MY, MY 2 CENTS THERE IN THAT FROM, FROM ON BEHALF OF TRANSPORTATION, PUBLIC WORKS AND OUR ENGINEERING TEAM, THE BI, THE RECURRENCE OF THE, UH, STUDIES, IT'S, IT HAS TO BE SUBJECTIVE BASED ON WHERE THE SCHOOL IS LOCATED, THE SIZE OF THE SCHOOL, AND, UH, PERHAPS EVEN THE HISTORY OF THAT SCHOOL AS WELL. SOME SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN OPERATING FOR YEARS WITHOUT ANY ISSUES WITH THE NEIGHBOR'S UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S, IT, THERE IS TRAFFIC SHOWING UP FOR 15 MINUTES EVERY, EVERY DAY. UM, DON'T, IF YOU, IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT, DON'T COME OUT. EXCUSE ME, THEN, UH, I, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT THAT'S, THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT I WELCOME YOUR THOUGHTS, UNDERSTANDING THAT AS OF TODAY, UH, SCHOOLS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF THEM WITH A FEW EXCEPTIONS, ARE NOT COMPLYING WITH THE BIANNUAL UPDATES. WE ARE REACTIVE. WE, THE CITY ARE REACTIVELY ENFORCING IT WHEN THE SCHOOL, WHEN ISSUES COME UP. SO IF YOU CHOSE NOT TO INCLUDE A LANGUAGE OR CONDITIONS TO REQUIRE BIANNUAL OR RECURRING UPDATES, I CAN LET YOU KNOW THAT THE CITY'S ALREADY ENFORCING UPDATES AS NEEDED WHEN ISSUES COME UP, WHEN, UM, JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT IN HOPES THAT IT CAN HELP YOU MAKE A DECISION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I JUST HAD TWO MORE, UM, QUICK FOLLOW UP QUESTIONS AS MR. CHAIR, IF I MAY. YES, YOU MAY. UM, ON THE, ON THE LIGHTING QUESTION, UM, I SAW THAT THERE WERE PROVISIONS OF LIGHTING RELATED TO ATHLETIC FIELDS, BUT WITH THE ATHLETIC FIELD NOT BEING DEFINED, I KNOW THERE'S ONE THAT EXISTS TODAY FROM THE AERIAL THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE DOCKET. UM, IS THERE ANY CONTEXT ON QUANTITY? YOU KNOW, AGAIN, I, I THINK IT WOULD, WHERE THEY'RE LOCATED ON THE SITE AS WELL AS, YOU KNOW, FREQUENCY, UM, A LOT OF THE COMMENTS THAT WE GET BACK ON IMPACTS FOR COMMUNITY HAVE, HAVE MANY TIMES TO DO WITH HOW THEY'RE LOCATED. UM, THE HOURS OF OPERATION CERTAINLY HELP, BUT I GUESS I'M JUST NOT CLEAR, UM, HOW THAT, UM, PROVISION THAT'S, THAT'S PROPOSED WAS DEVELOPED. WELL, THIS IS, THIS IS THE ONE THAT WE'VE BEEN USING FOR, FOR DISD. UH, THE LIGHT STANDARDS FOR ATHLETIC FIELDS IS THE SAME ONE WE'VE BEEN USING IN THE PREVIOUS BOND CYCLE. AND SO THAT WAS CREATED WITH, IN WORKING WITH, UM, UH, SO THAT'S HOW WE ARRIVED AT THE HEIGHT LIMIT AND THE HOURS AND, UM, THE DARK SKY COMPLIANCE. UH, THEY, BUT IF I, IF I MAY DO, DON'T WE USUALLY KNOW WHERE THE ATHLETIC FIELD IS LOCATED OR QUANTITY, UM, BEING DEFINED? I, I DON'T KNOW IF, I DON'T KNOW IF WE NECESSARILY ALWAYS KNOW WHERE THE STANDARDS ARE LOCATED. UH, WE OFTEN KNOW WHERE A FIELD MAY BE. UM, BUT I THINK THAT'S PART OF, THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW EXACTLY AS THEY MOVE THROUGH THEIR DESIGN PROCESS. THEY'RE NOT GONNA KNOW EXACTLY WHERE THAT IS, UM, TO THE, TO THE FOOT UNTIL THAT OCCURS. WELL, I'LL, UM, THANK YOU FOR THAT INFORMATION. UH, THE ONLY OTHER THING I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I UNDERSTOOD, UM, FOLLOWING UP ON A QUESTION FROM COMMISSIONER SIMS, THE TH ONE VERSUS THE R 75, AND I KNOW YOU COVERED IN THIS BRIEFING, I WANTED TO JUST MAKE SURE I HEARD IT CORRECTLY. THE FUNDAMENTAL, THE REASON WHY IT'S NOT R SEVEN FIVE IS THE 30 VERSUS 36 FEET OF HEIGHT IN THE FENCE LOCATION. THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS WE'RE ADDRESSING. IT'S THE, IT'S ENTIRELY, IT'S FOR THE FENCE, UH, IT'S FOR THE SETBACK REQUIREMENTS COMMISSIONER. SO UNDER TH ONE, EVERYTHING WOULD BE FRONT YARD SETBACK OF ZERO SET SETBACKS ONLY. YEAH. YEAH. THE HEIGHT CAN BE UNDER OUR HEIGHT RULES. IT CAN BE ANY LEGAL HEIGHT FOR AN INSTITUTIONAL USE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER SATO, ANYBODY ELSE ON ROUND ONE? UH, I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS. COMMISSIONER, GO FOR IT. SDO. AND THEN I'LL COME FOR YOU FOR, UM, ROUND TWO. UM, BUT THIS, THIS SEEMS TO BE, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS BEING SORT OF A TEMPLATE GOING FORWARD. UM, WAS THIS A TEMPLATE THAT HAD WENT THROUGH A COMMITTEE, MAYBE PLAN ADVISORY ZAC OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT? IT'D BEEN THE PAST YEAR OR SO WORKING BETWEEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AND, AND DISD. THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE PRIMARY SPACE IT'S BEEN, BUT WE ARE HERE. AND IF THINGS, IF THINGS WOULD BENEFIT BY BEING ADDED, WE'LL TALK THOSE THROUGH AND, AND THEY CAN BE ADDED. BUT, UM, THAT'S THE PROCESS OF HOW WE ARRIVED AT IT. OKAY. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT SOME OF WHY WE'RE DOING PD TO SUP. UM, DO [01:45:01] WE HAVE, UM, MAYBE A CHART, SOMETHING THAT SHOWS, UM, EXACTLY WHAT'S BEING PULLED FROM OUR TRADITIONAL PD APPROVALS, UM, AND VERSUS WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THE SUP FOR INSTANCE, THE, THE AS MENTIONED, THE TNP PLANNED, UM, THE BIANNUAL TRAFFIC STUDY, SIDEWALKS WITH BUFFER, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES, FENCING ON THE PLAN. UM, WHAT, WHAT, WHAT'S BEING REMOVED? DO WE HAVE A CONSISTENT LIST OF REMOVALS FROM THESE THINGS? UM, GOING FORWARD? I DON'T KNOW. WE COULD PUT TOGETHER A SUMMARY. I DON'T KNOW IF WE HAVE ANYTHING NOW. UM, BUT I MEAN, TO PUT IT SIMPLY, IT'S THE, THE CHANGES IN THE CONTENTS OF THE PLAN, OF THE SITE PLANS, UM, THAT'S WORTH NOTING. UM, THEY DID AGREE THAT THEY'RE GOING TO CONSISTENTLY REPLACE SIDEWALKS. UM, THEY'RE GONNA FOCUS THEIR PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES. THEY'RE STILL GOING TO HAVE THEM, BUT THEY'RE GOING TO FOCUS THEM, UM, TOWARDS THEIR, THEIR PUBLIC ENTRIES AND THOSE KINDS OF THINGS. AND THAT WAS, UH, PART OF, OF LONGER DISCUSSION. UH, THEY WILL STILL DO THE PEDESTRIAN ACCESS, UM, AND THEN THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN REVISION, BUT WE COULD SUMMARIZE IT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THANK YOU. AND ON THOSE, UM, THE ITEMS THAT HAVE BEEN DELETED OR NOT BEING SPOKEN ABOUT, I'M SAYING THAT THEY'RE DELETED, MAYBE ADDRESS AT A LAYER OF BODY. UM, UH, UH, WE WE'RE FOCUSING ON CODE REFORM RIGHT NOW, THESE THINGS BEING REWRITTEN, UM, AT BASE CODE 'CAUSE ARE THERE BASE CODE THAT COVERS SOME OF THESE THINGS? YES. I, I THINK THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE A COMPONENT OF WHAT WE LOOK AT IN, IN DALLAS ZONING REFORM. UM, LIKE WE SAID, STANDARDS, I THINK BEING PREDICTABLE ACROSS THE BOARD WOULD BE MUCH TO THE BENEFIT OF THE DISTRICT AND TO THE CITY. UM, SO PUTTING STAND, PUTTING THOSE STANDARDS IN, AND THAT'S A, THAT NOW THAT'S A COMMUNITY PROCESS, SO I'M SURE THAT WILL COME UP. THANK YOU. UM, UH, HEIGHT WAS BROUGHT UP AND SO WAS LOCK COVERAGE. ARE THESE NUMBERS SPEAKING IN TEMPLATE FORM, RIGHT? ARE THESE SPECIFIC TO, UH, AB KNIGHT OR IS THIS, WILL THIS BE THE VERSION WE USE AS WE MOVE FORWARD? UH, I THINK THAT THE BASE DISTRICT, IF WE, THESE ARE GOING TO PROCEED BEST THROUGH A GENERAL BASE DISTRICT. I THINK THE BASE DISTRICT COULD BE DIFFERENT, UH, GIVEN THE CONTEXT OF THE SCHOOL. I MEAN, WE WERE OUR SEVEN AROUND HERE, THIS PARTICULAR ONE NEEDED A RELIEF ON, ON FENCES AND THIS PARTICULAR SITE. UM, SO THE TH UH, DID MAKE THE MOST SENSE FOR THAT IN THIS CONTEXT. THERE MIGHT BE OTHER SITES THAT HAVE OTHER BASE ZONINGS THAT MAKES SENSE WHEN IT'S KIND OF OUR JOB TO HELP THEM FIND SOMETHING THAT, THAT MAKES SENSE. UM, BUT I THINK IN THIS CASE, THE TH BEING HARDLY DIFFERENT IN TERMS OF, OF DENSITY FROM THE R SEVEN AND THE LONG TERM INVESTMENT THEY'RE MAKING IN THE SITE MAKES IT UNLIKELY TO HAVE A, AN IMPACT. SO THAT BASE DISTRICT, WE, WE FIND TO BE, UM, REASONABLE AND THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE IN NOT TO HEIGHT FOR THE SCHOOL USE. UM, LOT COVERAGE IS ACTUALLY LESS IN TH THAN IT IS IN R FOR NON-RESIDENTIAL USES. SO IT'S SAFE TO SAY THAT A, A SPECIFIC TEMPLATE WON'T BE, UM, THE WORD A VERBIAGE HERE SAYING THAT EVERY SCHOOL HAS A UNIQUE SITUATION. THE BASE DISTRICT, THE BASE DISTRICT WILL, WILL, MAY BE DIFFERENT. I CAN IMAGINE A SCENARIO WHERE THE BASE DISTRICT IS DIFFERENT IN A DIFFERENT, UH, CONTEXT, BUT AT LEAST THOSE RULES ARE CONSISTENT ACROSS THE BOARD. THEY'RE WRITTEN IN STONE IN THE BASE CODE. OKAY. LASTLY, UM, GOING TO MY COMMUNITY LIKE THIS, UM, ALONG WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR, FOR ME. UM, IS THE, THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE BEING LOOKED AT BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT ALL, OR ARE YOU ONLY LEAVING THAT TO DISD? THAT WAS A HUGE PART OF FAR DALLAS, SO I WANT TO ENSURE THAT THAT PIECE IS STILL THERE AND A LOT OF, IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UM, MY FELLOW DISTRICT MEMBERS, UM, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT IS ESSENTIAL. DUMPSTER PLACEMENT IS ESSENTIAL. NOISE ORDINANCE IS ESSENTIAL. UM, THESE ARE THINGS THAT, UM, OUR COMMUNITY DEPENDS ON AND BEAT OUR DOORS DOWN BEHIND. SO LOSING IT, UM, IS WORRYING. HAVE WE ADDRESSED THAT AT ALL? YEAH. UH, THANK YOU FOR THAT. NO, I MEAN, WE ARE, WE ARE HERE, UH, LOOKING FOR GUIDANCE ON WHAT THINGS WE SHOULD PUT IN FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AS, AS REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COMMUNITIES AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, DISE, I THINK THEY MAY BE ABLE TO SPEAK TO THE ENGAGEMENT THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE PLANNING TO DO FOR ALL THEIR SCHOOLS MOVING FORWARD. THAT WILL BE CASE BY CASE. IT'LL BE OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITIES AND BE DETAILED, UM, TO A PARTICULAR SITE. OKAY. THANK YOU. THAT'S ALL THE QUESTIONS I HAVE. UM, COMMISSIONER SERRATO, ROUND TWO. UM, SO JUST TRYING TO THINK OF A PATH FORWARD HERE. UM, SO SCENARIO, LET'S SAY WE, [01:50:01] UM, YOU KNOW, KEEP THE TOWNHOUSE ONE REZONING AND ALLOW A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT. COULD WE REQUEST THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND A MORE DETAILED, UH, SITE PLAN IN ORDER TO MOVE FORWARD? WE WOULD NEED TO SEE THOSE TWO THINGS IN PLACE. IS THAT SOMETHING THAT WE COULD, AS A BODY ASK FOR PROCEDURALLY BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO TAKE A VOTE ON IT? Y YEAH. PROCEDURALLY YES, THERE'S, UH, IT, THE SUP CAN HAVE MORE DETAIL OR, OR LESS. THAT'S, YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER CARPENTER, UM, SPEAKING OF A, OF A TEMPLATE, UH, ONE THING THAT JUST CAUGHT MY EYE WAS THAT SIGNS HERE ARE DEFERRING BACK TO, UM, ARTICLE SEVEN. SEEMS TO ME WE'VE HAD A NUMBER OF SIGN CASE, A NUMBER OF SCHOOL CASES THROUGH THE YEARS WHERE THE ONLY THING THAT THEY WERE COMING TO US FOR WAS AN EXCEPTION TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE. SO IS DISD PLANNING TO HAVE SIGNS THAT STRICTLY ADHERE TO THE SIGN ORDINANCE NOW, OR, I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN. A LOT OF THE IN SETBACKS, AND IF I KNOW SIZE AND I, YEAH, I, IF I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, I THINK IN ONE, THEY, THEY GENERALLY, WE CAN'T RELIEVE THEM FROM SIGNS THROUGH THE SEUP PROCESS. AND SO THE SIGN PROVISION IN THERE THAT IS DEFAULTING TO ARTICLE SEVEN, UM, IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN, A LOT OF, SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT WE HAVE SEEN COME THROUGH ARE, UH, TYPES OF SCHOOLS THAT LIKE TO HAVE, UH, CERTAIN TYPES OF FUNDRAISING BANNERS THAT ARE A LITTLE UNUSUAL, UM, AND NOT BE ABLE, CANNOT BE ACCOMMODATED THROUGH THE BASE CODE. UM, THAT'S, I CAN THINK OF MULTIPLE CASES, AT LEAST WITH THOSE, UM, BEING AN ISSUE. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S PART OF DSDS TYPICAL, UH, PROCESS, BUT, UH, JUST SEEMS THAT IF, YOU KNOW, PART OF THE, UM, UNDERLYING MESSAGE HERE IS TRYING TO, UH, SPEED THINGS UP AND BE EXPEDIENT. IF, IF WE'RE GONNA CONTINUE TO HAVE, YOU KNOW, CASES WHERE THEY'RE, UH, LOOKING FOR EXCEPTIONS TO SIGNS, IF THEY'RE HAVING TO GO FOR VARIANCES OR GO THROUGH THE ZONING PROCESS, THAT THAT'S NOT GOING TO ACHIEVE WHAT THEY'RE GOING FOR. WE'VE, THANK YOU. UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, UM, THINGS WE CAN DO TO HELP THEM, UM, HAVE A PREDICTABLE PROCESS FOR A LONG TIME. WE'VE TALKED FOR MANY HOURS. YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS WE HAVEN'T TALKED MUCH IS SIGNS, UM, SURPRISINGLY, BUT I THINK IN MERITS DISCUSSION, THE THEME OF THE DAY. YEAH. . YES. THANK YOU. THAT'S A GOOD POINT. IS THAT IT, COMMISSIONER? THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? UH OH, COMMISSIONER KAUFFMAN. YES. UH, I'D LIKE TO KIND OF DO A FOLLOW UP UP PARTICULARLY ON SOME OF THE THINGS THAT, UH, MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS HAVE BROUGHT TO OUR ATTENTION. UH, I THINK IT WOULD BE, UH, AND COMMISSIONER KAUFFMAN, WE ARE GOING TO HEAR THIS CASE. THIS WAS ONLY THE BRIEFING. YOU WANT TO WAIT FOR THAT OR IS THIS APPROPRIATE TIME? WE'RE DOING BRIEFING ONLY RIGHT NOW. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE TELLING ME? UH, PART OF MY BRIEFING CONCERNS ARE THAT, UH, I DON'T THINK THAT ENOUGH HAS BEEN DONE ON THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT STUFF. QUESTION HAS TO BE A QUESTION. AND I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF DISD IS GOING TO DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN WHAT THEY'VE BEEN DOING IN THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT, AND IF THERE WOULD BE A BETTER RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN DSDS POLICE DEPARTMENT AND THE CITY OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT TO HANDLE THOSE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS THAT ARE STILL MAIN ISSUES AND ARE NOT BEING ADDRESSED. REMEMBER, THIS IS THE BRIEFING JUST FOR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF. UM, BUT I'M SURE THE APPLICANTS IS LISTENING AND WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS IT ONCE WE GET TO THE HEARING. I THINK STAFF HAS AN ANSWER TO, OH, STAFF HAS AN ANSWER AND ANSWER TO THE QUESTION. BUT I THINK THAT THEY ARE PART OF, PART PART OF, UH, THE CURRENT LIGHTING SITUATION. I THOUGHT WITH DISD IS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE PUT IN LIGHTING AT MOST OF THE LOCATIONS WHERE THEY HAD A BOND MONEY TO DO THAT, AND THEIR INTENTION WAS TO NOT DO IT AT ADDITIONAL CAMPUSES. SO WOULD THAT INCLUDE THIS CAMPUS? I'M NOT AWARE OF WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE SPECIFIC ON LIGHTING STANDARDS FOR THIS CAMPUS. UH, I THINK THAT WOULD ALSO BE A GOOD QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT HERE AS WELL. OKAY. TO GO BACK TO THE, THE FIRST QUESTION, WHICH IS, IS A QUESTION I ACKNOWLEDGE IT. UM, YOU ASKED WHAT, WHAT CAN THEY DO TO IMPROVE WHAT THEY HAVE DONE IN THE PAST WITH TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT? AND I, I POINT OUT YEAH. UH, LOOKING AT THIS, THIS IS NOT AN EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT'S A ROUGH SUMMARY FOR YOU TO, TO PUT IT IN UNDERSTANDABLE TERMS FOR EVERYONE. LIKE I LIKE THE RULE OF THIRDS THAT THEY HAVE. ABOUT ONE THIRD OF THEIR SCHOOLS ARE NON-CONFORMING USES THAT ARE IN OUR ZONING. THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED BY RIGHT. THEY'RE NOT, UM, ALLOWED. BUT THEY'VE BEEN, YOU [01:55:01] KNOW, THEY WERE BUILT BEFORE. WE ONLY, NOT ALL THAT LONG AGO, MADE IT. UM, YOU CAN'T DO A SCHOOL. AND IN OUR DISTRICT, ANOTHER THIRD MAYBE ARE IN PDS AND ABOUT ANOTHER THIRD ARE IN S STS. MANY OF THOSE HAVE, MANY OF THOSE NEWEST ONES HAVE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS BECAUSE THOSE WERE, UH, SORT OF PROVISIONS ADDED IN THE TWO THOUSANDS. UH, YOU KNOW, MORE RECENTLY THROUGH SUVS AND, AND PDS, UH, THE OLDER ONES OFTEN DON'T HAVE THEM. SO I, I THINK THAT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS ARE A TOOL FOR COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE CITY, THE PARENTS AND THE SCHOOL AS THEY ARE A NEWER THING. A LOT OF THE OLDER SCHOOLS DIDN'T HAVE THEM, AND THEY WERE, UH, AUTHORIZED TO CONTINUE WITHOUT THEM. UM, SO THEY'RE STILL GONNA BE PART OF THIS PROCESS. AND TO YOUR POINT, WHAT CAN THEY DO BETTER? A LOT OF WHAT YOU EXPERIENCE IS THE OLDEST SCHOOLS THAT, THAT DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT BECAUSE THEY'RE NONCONFORMING. I VENTURED A BET AS THEY REBUILD, THEY WILL COME, THEY WILL DO THIS. THEY WILL ADJUST TO THE MODERN DAY, INSTALL THIS TOOL FOR COMMUNICATION AND INSTALL IMPROVEMENTS TO THEIR SITE TO DO IT. SO I THINK THERE ARE TOOLS AND THEY CAN SPEAK TO IT TOO. THANK YOU. WELL, MY QUESTION TO STAFF ABOUT THAT IS MAYBE YOU COULD HELP THEM LEARN SOME NEW PROCESSES AND SOME NEW, UH, WAYS TO ADDRESS THE, THE TRAFFIC PROBLEMS. BECAUSE WE'RE, IN MY OPINION, WE'RE REPEATING THE SAME PROBLEMS ALL OVER. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. AND WITH IT, WITH IT BEING, LIKE I SAID, A COMMUNICATION TOOL, I, I KNOW THAT THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT OUR, OUR CITY AND OUR TRAFFIC DEPARTMENT HAVE AND COLLECTED, THEY'RE EXPERTS IN, IN THEIR AREAS, THAT'LL BE ONE WAY THAT THAT'S COMMUNICATED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY MORE QUESTIONS? YES. COMMISSIONER COX GOT A QUESTION FOR MR. PEPE. I, I'M A SIMPLE GUY, SO I'M GONNA ASK YOU A SIMPLE QUESTION. WHY IS THIS CASE, AT LEAST FROM AN APPEARANCE STANDPOINT, SEEM TO BE TREATED DIFFERENTLY IN TERMS OF THE WAY STAFF HAS EVALUATED IT THAN OTHERS? I'VE HAD SEVERAL SCHOOLS, WESTWOOD MIDDLE SCHOOL, MOST RECENTLY, THAT WE HAVE EVALUATED IN A MUCH DIFFERENT WAY. WHY THE CHANGE? IS IT DUE TO STAFF AND THE DEMANDS ON STAFF? I I, IS IT COMING FROM UP HIGH TO CUT BACK ON THE ANALYSIS AND THE EVALUATION THAT WE DO IN THESE CASES? WHAT EXACTLY IS DRIVING THIS? YOU KNOW, THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE'RE LEARNING MORE ABOUT WHAT BEST PRACTICE IN THE, ACROSS THE COUNTRY IS. AND, UH, BEST PRACTICE IS, IS NOT QUITE SO NARROW IN TERMS OF DISCRETIONARY APPROVALS. MORE COMMON IS ACROSS THE BOARD STANDARDS THAT APPLY TO SCHOOLS. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE NOT THERE YET. WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IT. UM, AND WE'RE NOT TRYING TO SINGLE THIS SCHOOL OUT. I CERTAINLY DON'T THINK SO. BUT A PART OF IT IS THE SEVERAL SCHOOLS THAT WILL BE COMING LATER IN THE YEAR, AND, YOU KNOW, AND THE, THE COMING MONTHS, UH, THEY HAVE A NEW, WE LEARNED A LOT, AND THIS IS SORT OF A INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE THING. WE HAD A, THE, THE LAST BOND THAT THEY HAD THAT WAS APPROVED BY VOTERS, UH, WE WORKED THROUGH, IT WAS DOZENS OF SCHOOLS IN THAT. WE LEARNED A LOT OF LESSONS FROM THAT. UH, SOME OF THE STAFF THAT WE HAVE HERE HAVE, HAVE BEEN HERE, AND WE LEARNED THINGS. 'CAUSE THOSE GUYS ARE NOW AT THE, THE PERMITTING PROCESS AND THE CONSTRUCTION PROCESS. AND SO IT'S, SOME OF IT IS LESSONS LEARNED, UM, FROM THE LAST BIG BONDS. I MEAN, THE, THE, THE BOND, THE LAST BOND THAT THEY THEY'RE BUILDING WAS, I BELIEVE THEIR BIGGEST BOND TO DATE. THIS IS THE BIGGEST, BIGGEST BOND TO DATE NOW. SO THAT'S THE TIMING OF IT. UM, WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING THROUGH IN, WE'RE GAINING INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE, BUT WE'RE ALSO GAINING KNOWLEDGE OF BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE COUNTRY. IF I COULD JUST A FOLLOW UP QUESTION. MM-HMM. MM-HMM . AND THIS IS A REQUEST I WOULD ASK STAFF TO TREAD LIGHTLY HERE. I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T DIMINISH THIS PROCESS AND THE EFFECTIVENESS OF THIS BODY SPECIFICALLY AS IT RELATES TO THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, COMMISSIONER AND THE OUTRE OUTREACH THAT WE'RE DOING. LET'S LEAVE THAT TO HEARING. I HOPE WE'LL DO THAT. WE HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO DISCUSS. THANK YOU. DEEPER THERE. THANK YOU. UM, MR. BA, LET'S READ THIS INTO THE RECORD AND GET IT GOING. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. LEMME JUST CLOSE OR STOP THE SCREEN SHARE HERE. ALRIGHT, I MADE IS CASE Z 26 0 0 0 1 6 6. AN APPLICATION FOR ONE R 75, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT. TWO TH ONE, A TOWNHOUSE DISTRICT, AND THREE, A NEW SPECIFIC USED PERMIT FOR A PUBLIC SCHOOL ON PROPERTY ZONE PLAN DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT NUMBER 8 2 5 ON THE NORTH LINE OF PALISADE DRIVE BETWEEN NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD AND GREENDALE DRIVE, AND BOUNDED BY PALISADE DRIVE, NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD, GREENDALE DRIVE, AND TOWANDA DRIVE. STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL OF ONE R 75, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT, TWO [02:00:01] TH ONE, A TOWN HOUSE DISTRICT, AND THREE, A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR PUBLIC SCHOOL SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. UM, LET'S HEAR FROM OUR REPRESENTATION. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE THANK YOU, THE CASE? AGAIN, BRENT ALFRED, UH, CHIEF CONSTRUCTION OPERATIONS OFFICER FOR DALLAS. ID UH, I KNOW WE HAD A LOT OF ROBUST CONVERSATION, UH, WAS, HAD SOME PREPARED WORDS, BUT I ALSO WANNA ADDRESS YOU AS WELL. UM, I WANT TO ASSURE YOU, WE'RE WE'RE COMMITTED TO CONTROLLING. WE CAN CONTROL, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE A BIG COMMITMENT TO THE PUBLIC AND WE'RE TRYING TO DELIVER ON, YOU KNOW, I THINK STAFF FOR WORKING WITH US THROUGH THIS PROCESS. THERE'S A LOT OF INSTITUTIONAL KNOWLEDGE AS HE STATED, AND THAT WE'VE LEARNED. UH, BUT WE CAN'T DO IT ALONE. YOU KNOW, WE NEED TO MAKE TIMELY DECISIONS AND A PARTNERSHIP WITH THIS COMMISSION. THE CITY STAFF AND ULTIMATELY CITY COUNCIL ARE CRITICAL TO OUR ABILITY TO DELIVER WHAT THE VOTERS APPROVE. YOU KNOW, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PARTNERSHIP. UH, WE'VE BOUGHT, ACTUALLY BROUGHT SOME STUDENTS FROM SAMUEL WHO WILL COME SPEAK TO YOU AS WELL. UH, THEY WANT TO REALLY SEE HOW CITY GOVERNMENT WORKS. UH, AGAIN, I'LL COME BACK UP TO ADDRESS SOME OF YOUR MORE SPECIFIC QUESTIONS. UH, A LOT OF IT REVOLVES AROUND THE UNIQUENESS OF DALLAS HIGH STATE. WE ARE A PUBLIC ENTITY. WE ARE, UM, UH, WORKING ON A INTER A LOCAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY. BECAUSE OF THAT. WE DO HAVE PUBLIC MEETINGS, PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE'RE NOT LIKE ANY OTHER DEVELOPER THAT BUILD A BUILDING AND CAN GO AWAY. SO I BELIEVE WE HAVE SOME CONTROLS IN PLACE. UH, WE JUST ASK FOR YOUR PARTNERSHIP, UH, IN WORKING WITH US DEVELOPING THESE PLANS. UH, AGAIN, PLEASE SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, CHIEF, THANK YOU. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS KATIE LENAHAN, 9,400 NORTH CENTRAL CENTRAL EXPRESSWAY. I, UM, WORK FOR DALLAS ISD. I'M THE DESIGN DIRECTOR FOR DALLAS ISD. I WANNA THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS YOU THIS AFTERNOON. FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WANNA REITERATE WHAT CHIEF ALFRED IS SAYING ABOUT THE SUCCESS OF OUR COLLABORATION WITH YOUR, YOUR THE CITY OF DALLAS DURING THE 2020 BOND. THE RESULTS OF WHICH IS THAT ON AUGUST OF 2026, THE TEA RESULTS FOR TEXAS GRADES AT SCHOOLS WERE ANNOUNCED. DISD EARNED AN 85%. WE ARE THE FASTEST IMPROVING SCHOOL DISTRICT IN THE NATION. OUT OF THE TOP 50 HIGH SCHOOLS IN THE NATION, WE'VE GOT FOUR 92% OF OUR STUDENTS ARE EXCEEDING STATE EXPECTATIONS FOR GROWTH. WE HAVE A POLICE DEPARTMENT, A CHIEF OF POLICE THAT USED TO WORK, USED TO BE A FORMER DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT MEMBER, AND HAS A ROBUST RELATIONSHIP WITH ENTITIES WITHIN THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT TEAM, CAMPUS SAFETY AND SECURITY EXPERTS, A TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, AND WE HAVE A BOARD OF TRUSTEES. WE ANSWER TO THEM EVERY MONTH. AND WE HAVE LOTS OF OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT USE THAT FORUM TO ADDRESS THEM AS WELL. WE ARE PROPOSING TO MEET COMMUNITY EXPECTATIONS TO ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS THAT WERE ASKED HERE EARLIER. IT IS OUR INTENT FOR NEW SCHOOLS TO PROVIDE FIVE FOOT LANDSCAPE BUFFERS AND SIX FOOT SIDEWALKS. WE WILL REVIEW THOSE ON AN AS NEEDED BASIS FOR CAMPUSES. WE'RE PROPOSING ADDITIONS. OUR BOND 2026, I KEEP FORGETTING, WE'VE GOT TWO NOW. UH, BOND 2026. THE TARGETS OF THE BUDGETS FOR THAT BOND ARE TO IMPROVE STUDENT SAFETY, REMOVE THE PORTABLES, AND TO ENHANCE STUDENT EXPERIENCE. WHEN WE ENHANCE THAT STUDENT EXPERIENCE, OUR, OUR STUDENTS CONTINUE TO GROW AND PERFORM BETTER. UM, PEDESTRIAN AMENITIES. THAT'S BEEN A QUESTION HERE. THAT WAS SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ASKED. WE'VE BEEN HAVING GREAT CONVERSATIONS WITH CITY STAFF ABOUT THAT. WE'RE PROPOSING TO PROVIDE OUTDOOR AMENITIES WITHIN THE SECURE AREAS ON OUR SITE. STUDENT SAFETY IS OUR MANDATE. WE WANNA PROVIDE PLACES WHERE STUDENTS CAN GO OUTSIDE, ENJOY, UM, FRESH AIR, DAYLIGHT, YOU KNOW, SIT AND EAT OUTSIDE UNDER CANOPIES. THERE'S A LOT OF, UH, GREAT BIG TREND CALLED BIOPHILIC DESIGN ABOUT THE IMPACTS OF POSITIVE IMPACTS TO STUDENTS AND PEOPLE FROM ACCESS TO DAYLIGHT VIEWS TO DAYLIGHT, AND THOSE OUTDOOR AMENITIES. WE REALLY WANNA ENHANCE AND SUPPORT THAT, AGAIN, TO SUPPORT OUR STUDENT, UH, OUTCOME. UH, IN GENERAL, WE ARE PROVI. WE'RE PROPOSING TO USE ARTICLE 10 AND JUST MEET THOSE STANDARDS WITHIN IT REGARDING THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS. I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS THAT CAME OUT OF HERE TODAY. I DO WANNA BRING UP SOME THINGS. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. OKAY. THANK YOU. LADY THURMAN, ELSIE [02:05:01] THURMAN, 9 4 0 6 BISCAYNE BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 8. THAT WAS A LOT TO UNPACK, WASN'T IT? , BUT IT'S NOT AS HARD AS WE'RE TAKING IT. UM, THE TMP, THAT IS, UM, SOMETHING THAT'S NATURALLY DONE AT PERMITTING AND HE'S VERY GOOD AT IT. WE'RE NOT TAKING YOUR RESPONSIBILITY AWAY. WE'RE TRYING TO ADD A DEPARTMENT THAT MAY BE A LITTLE BIT BETTER SUITED THAN THE LAND USE WE DO OVER HERE. THIS IS LAND USE AND OVER THERE IS PERMITTING. ALSO THE STARS PROGRAM. DION IS HERE. THEY'VE BEEN MEETINGS EARLIER THIS YEAR GOING OVER WAYS THAT PERMITTING THE STAR PROGRAM IS JUST FOR OUR SCHOOLS. AND SO THAT'S, NO ONE'S MENTIONED THAT YET, BUT THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF THIS HEAVY WORK IS DONE. WE'RE NOT GETTING A PASS THROUGH THE DISTRICT. WE'RE OVER THERE IN MEETINGS. I SIT IN THEM A LOT ON TEAMS JUST TO HEAR WHAT THEY'RE DOING. SO THEN IT KIND OF CAME OVER WHERE I WAS MEETING WITH STAFF. I MEAN, I KNOW IT SOUNDS LIKE WE'RE TAKING THINGS AWAY. WE'RE NOT, WE'RE JUST KIND OF MAYBE MOVING THEM TO THE RIGHT DEPARTMENTS VERSUS OVER HERE, WHICH IS LAND USE. UM, THAT WAS THE BIGGEST THING ALSO ON THE TMP. UM, I, YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH I WANT TO WORK WITH YOU AND HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS TO ME, THAT ME AND COMMISSIONER SERRATO MAKE SURE HER SCHOOL IS EXACTLY HOW IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE. WE CAN STILL, WE STILL ARE GONNA HAVE THOSE MEETINGS WITH THE COMMUNITY. IT'S JUST GIVING THAT TNP REPORT OVER TO A DEPARTMENT WHERE I THINK IT ALWAYS HAS BELONGED. AND WE'RE HERE TO ANSWER ANY MORE QUESTIONS. I LOVE WORKING WITH YOU GUYS. I WANNA CONTINUE TO WORK WITH YOU. THIS ISN'T TAKING ANYTHING AWAY. IT'S KIND OF JUST SHIFTING A BIT AND ALLOWING THE SCHOOL TO PRODUCE JUST A LITTLE BIT QUICKER THAN WE HAVE BEEN. THERE IS A LOT OF STALL GETTING THROUGH. UM, I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER KINGSTON'S COMMENTS. I I HEAR HER. THIS WAS A, A MORE TO UNPACK THAN WHAT I THINK YOU WERE PREPARED FOR, BUT IT TOOK US A MINUTE TO GET HERE TOO, AND STAFF. AND WE'RE HERE NOW AND WE HOPE THAT YOU WOULD VOTE FOR THIS SCHOOL TODAY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE KIND OF A PROTOTYPE OR TEST RIGHT HERE TO GO FORWARD. AND WE CAN'T DO IT WITHOUT YOU, BUT IT IS NECESSARY. THERE ARE A LOT OF SCHOOL DISTRICTS THAT HAVE THEIR SCHOOLS BY RIGHT. AND WE'RE STILL TRYING TO FIND A PATHWAY TO GET THERE. AND WE ARE HERE ASKING YOU TO HELP US GET THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK? THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE STUDENTS THAT ARE HERE FROM SAMUEL. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TAKING YOUR TIME. AND YOU HAVE DEFINITELY GOTTEN A LESSON IN CIVIC ENGAGEMENT TODAY. UH, GABRIEL GURA, 76 2 5 HUME DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 2 7 A GOOD AFTERNOON AND THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO Y'ALL. UH, I AM THE PROUD PRINCIPAL OF SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL, UH, FOR GENERATIONS. SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL HAS SERVED AS A CORNERSTONE OF THE PLEASANT GROVE COMMUNITY, EDUCATING AND EMPOWERING COUNTLESS GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS AND FAMILIES. HAVING SERVED AS A TEACHER AT SAMUEL FROM 2009 TO 2014, I SAW FIRSTHAND WHAT THIS CAMPUS CAN ACHIEVE AND THE INCREDIBLE POTENTIAL OF ITS STUDENTS AND STAFF. IT WAS THE BEGINNING OF MY JOURNEY IN EDUCATION AND IT PROVIDED A YOUNG TEACHER WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD A LEGACY OF SUPPORTING STUDENTS. WHEN I RETURNED IN 2022 TO SERVE AS PRINCIPAL, I FOUND THAT LEGACY AND THE SPARTAN NATION ALIVE AND WELL. I KNOW HOW MUCH HEART AND TALENT EXISTS WITHIN OUR WALLS, BUT AS WE ALL KNOW THE PHYSICAL LIMITATIONS OF THOSE WALLS, A NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL WILL PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS WITH THE MODERN LEARNING ENVIRONMENT AND STATE OF THE ART FACILITIES THAT THEY TRULY NEED AND DESERVE. THIS UPDATED CAMPUS WILL DIRECTLY SUPPORT CUTTING EDGE ACADEMIC PROGRAMS, EXPAND STUDENT OPPORTUNITIES, ELEVATE OUR ATHLETIC PROGRAMS, SUPPORT OUR SPECIAL EDUCATION PROGRAMS, FINE ARTS BUSINESS CLASSES, VIDEO GAME DESIGN, J-R-O-T-C, DRAMA BAND STUDENT CLUBS, AND PROVIDE AN OVERALL EDUCATION, EX EDUCATIONAL EXPERIENCE, AND PROVIDE OUR STUDENTS WITH AN INCREASED SENSE OF PRIDE AND BELONGING FOR COUNTLESS GENERATIONS OF STUDENTS TO COME. WE ARE EXCITED FOR A NEW BUILDING AND WE ARE EXCITED FOR WHAT THAT CAN DO TO HELP US TO PROTECT THE SPARTAN LEGACY FOR FUTURE GENERATIONS LONG AFTER THIS CURRENT GENERATION LEAVES ITS HALLWAYS. AT THIS TIME, WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THIS NEW VISION A REALITY FOR OUR STUDENTS, STAFF AND COMMUNITY. WE OWE IT TO THEM TO PROVIDE THEM WITH THE VERY BEST WE HAVE TO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD THEIR LEGACY AND WRITE THEIR OWN STORY WITH NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL AS THEIR STARTING POINT. SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL IS MORE THAN A BUILDING. IT IS A PART OF THE IDENTITY AND HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT ZONING CASE Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 66, [02:10:01] AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL FOR OUR STUDENTS, OUR FAMILIES, AND THE FUTURE GENERATIONS OF SPARTANS TO COME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, AND, UM, YOU GUYS REMEMBER, START WITH YOUR NAME, YOUR ADDRESS, AND FILL OUT THE YELLOW CARD BEFORE YOU LEAVE TODAY. THANK YOU. YES. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, MEMBERS OF THE CONGRESS. MY NAME IS DESIREE LAUREN, 76 25 HUME DRIVE, 7 5 2 2 7. UM, I'M A PROUD 2015 GRADUATE OF WW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL. I'VE BEEN BLESSED WITH THE OPPORTUNITY TO RETURN TO SAMUEL AND SERVE THE SAME COMMUNITY THAT HELPED SHAPE ME. MY CONNECTIONS TO SAMUEL ARE DEEPLY PERSONAL. AS A STUDENT, I SERVED AS A SENIOR REP, PURSUING COUNSEL, CHAIR, CAPTAIN WRESTLER. I GRADUATED TOP 25% OF MY CLASS. BUT WHAT I GAINED FROM SAMUEL EXTENDS FAR BEYOND ACADEMICS, ACTIVITIES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS. THE SCHOOL HAS TAUGHT DISCIPLINE LEADERSHIP AS PERSEVERANCE AND THE IMPORTANCE OF SERVING OTHERS. TODAY, I HAVE THE PRIVILEGE OF PASSING THOSE LESSONS TO A NEW GENERATION OF STUDENTS, THE SAME PROGRAMS THAT SHAPED ME, I NOW SPONSOR. I TRULY LOVE THE WORK I DO AND THE IMPACT I CAN MAKE. SAMUEL'S IMPACT REACHES ALL THROUGH FAMILIES. MY FIANCE IS A 2014 GRAD STEM GRADUATE, ALTHOUGH WE DID NOT MEET UNTIL AFTER I GRADUATED. OUR STORY IS JUST ONE EXAMPLE OF HOW THIS SCHOOL CONTINUES TO CONNECT PEOPLE LONG AFTER THEY LEAVE ITS HALLS. THE SAME SENSE OF CONNECTION CAN BE SEEN AMONG OUR STAFF. NINE CURRENT EMPLOYEES ARE SAMUEL ALUMNI, AND BEFORE OUR SCHOOL WAS DISPLACED, THAT NUMBER WAS 12. SOME OF MY FORMER TEACHERS AND NOW MY FAVORITE COLLEAGUES, IN FACT, MY CURRENT PRINCIPAL, MR. CARRO, WAS ONCE MY HISTORY TEACHER AND I HAVE THE BEAUTIFUL THROWBACK PICTURES TO PROVE IT. THESE RELATIONSHIPS DEMONSTRATE THAT SAMUEL IS MUCH MORE THAN A SCHOOL BUILDING. IT'S A PLACE WHERE STUDENTS BECOME GRADUATES, GRADUATES BECOME EDUCATORS, TEACHERS BECOME COLLEAGUES, AND CLASSMATES BECOME FAMILY FOR GENERATIONS. SAMUEL HAS BEEN A SOURCE OF IDENTITY, OPPORTUNITY, AND PRIDE FOR FAMILIES THROUGHOUT THIS COMMUNITY. OUR STUDENTS HAVE ALWAYS BEEN CAPABLE OF EXCELLENCE. OUR NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL WOULD PROVIDE FAR MORE THAN MODERN CLASSROOMS, WOULD CREATE ADEQUATE SPACE FOR SPECIAL EDUCATION SERVICES, ATHLETICS, FINE ARTS, ACADEMIC PROGRAMS, AND STUDENT ORGANIZATIONS, AND MORE THAN THE 40 SPORTS AND PROGRAMS THAT SERVE OUR STUDENTS CURRENTLY. IT WOULD GIVE EVERY STUDENT MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO PARTICIPATE, DEVELOP CONFIDENCE TO DISCOVER A TALENT, AND TO FIND A PLACE WHERE THEY BELONG. REINVESTMENT IN SAMUEL'S, REINVESTMENT IN THE ENTIRE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. WHEN WE STRENGTHEN A NEIGHBORHOOD OF SCHOOL AND WE STRENGTHEN THE FAMILIES IT SERVES, WE CREATE A SAFER AND MORE WELCOMING SPACE. EDUCATE, EXPAND EDUCATIONAL OPPORTUNITIES, SUPPORT EDUCATORS, AND DEMONSTRATE TO YOUNG PEOPLE THAT THEIR FUTURES ARE WORTHY OF MEANINGFUL INVESTMENT. AS WE MOVE FORWARD, WE MUST PRESERVE THE SAMUEL LEGACY, THE PRIDE, TRADITIONS, RELATIONSHIPS, AND SENSE OF BELONGING THAT GENERATIONS OF FAMILIES HAVE BUILT HERE. IT MEANS HONORING THE PAST BY CREATING SOMETHING EVEN BETTER FOR THE FUTURE. UM, NEXT GENERATION. THE STUDENTS WE SERVE HAVE EXTRAORDINARY POTENTIAL. I SEE IT EVERY DAY THROUGH OUR CAMPUS. IMAGINE HOW MUCH MORE THEY COULD ACHIEVE WITH THE BEST POSSIBLE FACILITIES, RESOURCES, AND OPPORTUNITIES THEY DESERVE. A SCHOOL THAT REFLECTS THEIR PROMISE IN A COMMUNITY THAT IS WILLING TO INVEST IN THEIR SUCCESS. SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL IS MORE THAN A BUILDING, IS PART OF THE IDENTITY AND HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE ASK THAT YOU SUPPORT ZONING CASE Z 26 0 0 0 1 6 6, AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL FOR OUR STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, YOUR CONSIDERATION, AND YOUR COMMITMENT TO OUR STUDENTS AND COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HELLO AND GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS GENESIS GALVEZ, AND THE ADDRESS IS 76 25 HUME DRIVE, DALLAS, 6 75 2 2 7. AND I AM A SENIOR AT SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL. BEING RESPONDED TO ME MEANS BEING ABLE TO GET UP EVERY DAY, SHOW WHO YOU ARE, GIVE IT YOUR ALL, AND CONTINUE TO PROVE YOURSELF. I AM VERY PROUD OF MY SCHOOL FOR ALWAYS PUSHING STUDENTS TO DO THEIR BEST AND ENCOURAGING US TO GIVE IT OUR ALL. SAMUEL HAS SHOWN ME AND MY CLASSMATES THE IMPORTANCE OF, OF MAKING THE MOST OF OUR HIGH SCHOOL EXPERIENCE. I'M ALSO VERY PROUD OF MY CLASSMATES FOR CONTINUING TO SHOW UP, SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, AND TAKE THINGS ONE DAY AT A TIME. SEEING EVERYONE GROW AND KEEP MOVING FORWARD HAS MADE ME PROUD TO BE A SPARTAN. I HOPE THE NEW SAMUEL BUILDING PROVIDES CURRENT AND FUTURE STUDENTS WITH EVEN MORE OPPORTUNITIES TO SUCCEED THROUGH MODERN FACILITIES, FLEXIBLE LEARNING ENVIRONMENTS, AND CAREER CONNECTED PATHWAYS. I BELIEVE THIS NEW SPACE CAN INSPIRE STUDENTS TO EXPLORE THEIR INTERESTS, PREPARE, PREPARE FOR THEIR FUTURES, AND CONTINUE BUILDING ON THE SPORT EXPERIENCE THAT MAKES YOUR SCHOOL OUR SCHOOL SPECIAL. I THINK OUR STUDENTS TO SERVE A MODERN SCHOOL ENVIRONMENT THAT SHOWS THE VALUE OF THEIR COMMUNITY, PLACES ON THEIR FUTURE UPGRADED FACILITIES IMPROVE ACADEMIC ACHIEVEMENT BY PROVIDING FLEXIBLE CLASSROOMS, WHILE ALSO MAKING STUDENTS FEEL SAFE. BY HAVING PHYSICAL SECURITY, HAVING A CLEAN AND MODERN SPACE GIVES US THE PRIDE AND TOOLS WE NEED TO GET READY FOR THE REAL WORLD. AND IT SHOWS THAT WE CARE FOR IT. SUPPORTING US ELDER COMMUNITY AND ACHIEVING OUR GOALS MAKE A BIG IMPACT IN OUR LIFE. SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL IS MORE THAN A BUILDING. IT IS A PART OF THE IDENTITY AND HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU SUPPORT ZONING CASE C DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 66, AND HELPS US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL FOR STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR GIVING US THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO YOU. THANK YOU. HELLO, AND GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M MIGUEL MAYA, AND THE SCHOOL ADDRESS IS 7 6 2 5 HUME DRIVE, DALLAS, TEXAS [02:15:01] 7 5 2 17. I'M A JUNIOR STUDENT AT WW SUMMIT HIGH SCHOOL. CURRENTLY ON A PATH TO GRADUATE EARLY THIS YEAR. IN MY YEARS OF BEING PART OF THIS AMAZING COMMUNITY, I'VE COME TO LEARN WHAT BEING A SPARTAN MEANS TO ME. BEING A SPARTAN MEANS THAT WE SHOW UP AND SHOW OUT. WE DON'T JUST SHOW UP AND TRY. NOW WE SHOW UP AND REDO. WE DO WHAT WE HAVE TO DO WHEN WE HAVE TO DO IT. I'M PROUD OF BEING A SPARTAN. THIS SCHOOL OFFERS SO MANY OPPORTUNITIES TO ITS STUDENTS, INCLUDING A AVID AND EARLY COLLEGE PROGRAM. THE STUDENTS IN SAM ARE ALSO A BIG PART OF EVERYONE'S SUCCESS. THEY'RE ALWAYS OPEN TO GIVING A HELPING HAND WHEN YOU NEED IT, AND THEY HAVE LOTS OF DETERMINATION TO DO WHAT'S NEEDED. I WAS EXCITED TO HEAR THAT SAMUEL WOULD BE LOOKING TO GET A NEW BUILDING, AND WITH THIS NEW BUILDING COMES NEW OPPORTUNITIES. THIS WOULD ALLOW THE SPARTANS TO HAVE A NEW FACILITY WITH MODERNIZED CLASSROOMS AND CUTTING EDGE FACILITIES. THIS WILL ALSO ALLOW SAMUEL TO CONTINUE TO PROVIDE PROGRAMS LIKE AVID EARLY COLLEGE AND CAREER INSTITUTE STUDENTS IN MY COMMUNITY TO SERVE A NEW SCHOOL BECAUSE WE HAVE THE DETERMINATION AND THE DISCIPLINE TO STRIVE FOR A GREATER FUTURE. AND IF WE WERE SUCCESSFUL AT OUR OLD CAMPUS, I KNOW WE CAN DO EVEN BETTER WITH A NEW ONE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER TO HELP US WITH THE BUILDING OF OUR NEW SCHOOL. THE OLD SUMMIT WAS INDEED EXCELLENT, BUT I DO BELIEVE THAT IT SHOULD BE MODERNIZED TO KEEP UP WITH THE PRESENT TIMES. WITH YOUR HELP AND INVOLVEMENT IN THIS PROJECT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH GREAT THINGS TOGETHER. SUMMIT HIGH SCHOOL IS MORE THAN A BUILDING. IT'S A PART OF THE IDENTITY AND THE HISTORY OF THIS COMMUNITY. WE ASK YOU TO SUPPORT ZONING CASE Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 66 AND HELP US MOVE FORWARD WITH THE NEW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL FOR OUR STUDENTS, FAMILIES, AND FUTURE GENERATIONS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR OR IN OPPOSITION OF THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. UM, COMMISSIONER SERRATO. UM, CAN WE GET A MOTION? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR. UM, IN THE CASE OF Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 6 6, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 22ND. UM, AND I DO HAVE SOME COMMENTS. THANK YOU. AND, UM, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR YOUR SECOND. UM, BEFORE WE START COMMENTS, EVERYBODY JUST REMEMBER DECORUM, UM, VERBIAGE, SPEAK TO THE MATTER, SPEAK TO THE DIVISION, UM, AND LET'S KEEP EVERYTHING ON THE UP AND UP. COMMISSIONER SERRATO. THANK YOU. UM, I WANNA FIRST THANK THE STUDENTS WHO CAME TO SPEAK TODAY. UM, YOU REMIND ME OF MY FRIENDS THAT I HAD GROWING UP IN PLEASANT GROVE. UM, AND YOU REMIND ME OF THE STUDENTS THAT I'VE SPENT, YOU KNOW, 20 YEARS WORKING WITHIN MY CAREER. I'M A LONG TIME PG RESIDENT. UM, I GREW UP IN PLEASANT GROVE. MY FAMILY MOVED TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN 1986 WHEN I WAS TWO YEARS OLD. UM, I'M A PRODUCT OF DISD. UM, I WAS A TEACHER WITH DISD FOR 13 YEARS, AND I HAVE BEEN ADVOCATING FOR EDUCATION FOR PG STUDENTS, UM, SINCE 2018 WHEN I STARTED A NONPROFIT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT EDUCATION. I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, JUST A LITTLE THROWBACK. I REMEMBER PARTICIPATING IN A SPELLING BEE WHEN I WAS IN FIFTH GRADE AT SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES OR MID NINETIES NOW, UM, MORE THAN 30 YEARS AGO. AND I REMEMBER THINKING TO MYSELF AS A FIFTH GRADER, MAN, THIS SCHOOL'S KIND OF MESSED UP . WE NEED A NEW SCHOOL HERE. I REMEMBER THINKING THAT 30 YEARS AGO. UM, I REMEMBER HEARING ABOUT THE BOND AND SEEING SAMUEL ON THE LIST, AND IT'S LONG OVERDUE. I'M THRILLED THAT OUR SPARTANS ARE FINALLY GETTING A NEW BUILDING. I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE IT'S DONE RIGHT AND THAT WE AREN'T BEING OVERLOOKED BECAUSE OF THE DISTRICT THAT WE LIVE IN. UM, THIS FEELS LIKE THE SHELL OF A PLAN. UM, IT FEELS LIKE AN INCOMPLETE PLAN, AND I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT SCHOOLS IN PG ARE TREATED JUST AS OTHER SCHOOLS IN THE REST OF THE CITY WOULD BE TREATED. I WANT IT TO HAVE THE SAME ATTENTION. I WANT OUR NEIGHBORS TO BE TREATED WITH INTEGRITY. I WANT OUR STUDENTS TO BE TREATED WITH INTEGRITY. UM, AND TO RESPECT EVERYONE. I DID ATTEND A COMMUNITY MEETING AND VERY LITTLE ABOUT ALL OF THESE DETAILS WE DISCUSSED TODAY WAS PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY. UM, I DID SEE PLANS FOR A BEAUTIFUL BUILDING, UM, BUT NONE OF THAT IS BEING CLEARLY DRAWN OUT IN WHAT WAS PRESENTED TO THIS, UM, TO THIS BODY TODAY. AND SO I HOPE THAT MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT, UM, MY CALL FOR A MORE DETAILED SITE PLAN, A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN THAT CAN, UM, BE RESPECTFUL OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE STUDENTS OF SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SERATO. IS THERE ANY OTHER COMMENT? HEARING NONE. CAN WE GET A VOTE? OH, I HAVE MY HAND ON. YES. TABITHA, UH, COMMISSIONER WHEELER. UM, [02:20:01] I, I CAN'T SUPPORT THAT, UM, THE MOTION AND ON TO, AND I HAVE COMMENTS ON REASONING WHY, UM, I AM, EVEN THOUGH I HAVE A LONG TERM PRO, UM, RESIDENT OF SOUTH DALLAS, I, I ALSO WENT TO THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS IN PLEASANT GROVE, INCLUDING THE CURRENT SAMUEL CAMPUS, WHICH IS HOLMES, UH, USED TO BE USED TO BE HOOD HOOD OR PIEDMONT. UM, PIEDMONT. UM, I HAVE WATCHED MY MOTHER LIVES ON NCE, SO QUITE OFTEN I AM IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I HAVE WATCHED THE TRAFFIC REFORM THAT DISD HAS DONE ON ALL THE NEW CAMPUSES. THE, ALL THE, ALL THE NEW CAMPUSES THAT ARE IN PLEASANT GROVE CURRENTLY. JOHN QUINCY ADAMS, URBAN PARK, STEM ACADEMY, NATHAN, NATHANIEL HAWTHORNE, ALL THOSE SCHOOLS PREVIOUSLY HAD MAJOR, UM, CONCERNS AS IT RELATES TO THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN. AND I HAVE WATCHED THOSE SCHOOLS. I DRIVE THROUGH PLEASANT GROVE AFTER I'M AT MY MOTHER'S HOUSE THREE TO FOUR DAYS A WEEK. AND SO I'M LITERALLY ALL OVER PLEASANT GROVE. AND THESE SCHOOLS HAVE GREAT TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLANS. IT IS REFLECTIVE OF WHAT THE COMMITMENT THAT DISD HAS HAS CAME TO US WITH. AND THE EXAMPLE IS IN NO BETTER FORM, BUT IN PLEASANT GROVE, THESE SCHOOLS HAVE WENT ON SIMULTANEOUSLY AS NATHAN HAWTHORNE AS, UM, WHEN NATHAN HAWTHORNE WAS FINISHED, JOHN QUINCY ADAMS MOVED INTO THEIR OLD CAMPUS. AND WHEN THEY MOVED INTO THEIR OLD CAMPUS, THEY MOVED, UH, FAIRLY QUICKLY. IF YOU KNOW THAT JOHN QUINCY ADAMS SITS ON TWO MAJOR, UM, TWO MAJOR STREETS AND IT WAS TRAFFIC OFF OFTENTIMES BUILT UP ON LAKE JUNE. AND NOW WE DON'T SEE THAT AS MUCH. AND SO I CAN'T SUPPORT, UH, CONTINUALLY TO HOLD DISD. AND WHERE IT IT ENDS UP BEING IS UP, UM, HOLDING BACK OUR STUDENTS, UH, UH, PRODUCTIVITY. ALSO, SAMUEL IS A PART OF THE GREATER, UM, THE EASTERN, UM, DISD EAST. AND SO THOSE SCHOOLS, SOME OF THE, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT'S GONNA BE OFFERED AT SAMUEL GOING FORWARD WILL ALSO, UM, HELP WITH THE OVERCROWDING OF PROGRAMS THAT ARE HAVING TO BE DONE RIGHT NOW AT LINCOLN HIGH SCHOOL, BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE THE DISD EAST CAMPUS IS FOR DIFFERENT PROGRAMS THAT ARE RELATED TO, UH, DALLAS COLLEGE OR EARLY, UM, OR TRADES. SO I CAN'T SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE I'VE, I, I BELIEVE THAT DISD HAS IS DOING GREAT WORK IN THE PLEASANT GROVE COMMUNITY, UM, AND, AND THE PRODUCT SHOWS FOR IT. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UH, UH YES. COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, THEN, UM, COMMISSIONER, UH, KINGSTON ONLINE. YES. HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT OR MS. THURMAN OR WHOEVER. SO IF WE DID MOVE THIS OUT UNTIL OCTOBER 22ND, UH, WHAT IMPACT WOULD THIS HAVE ON DEVELOPMENT, AGAIN, BRENTFORD CHIEF CONSTRUCTION OFFICER? UM, IT, IT WOULD IMPACT OUR BUDGET. UH, AS I SPOKE TO YOU EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, AN INFLATION, WE'RE TRACKING, UH, THE BUDGET WE HAVE FOR SAMUEL, LIKE I SAID, TO GET THAT TYPE OF BUDGET AND ASSESSMENT, WE HAD TO DO THIS STUDY IN 2020, UH, FOUR TO GET ITS VOTERS MAY OF, UH, THIS YEAR. UH, SO WE PUT INFLATION IN THOSE NUMBERS, BUT THE LONGER WE WAIT, THE MORE, UH, THE LESS SCOPE WE CAN GET. WE'VE MOVED THE SAMUEL CAMPUS TO KIND OF EXPEDITE, 'CAUSE WE DID SEE THE CONDITIONS THOSE KIDS WERE LIVING IN, AND WE, WE DECIDED TO MOVE THEM IN MAY TO EXPEDITE THIS PROCESS, UH, GET THIS TEMPLATE WORK WITH STAFF, WORK WITH, UM, EVERYBODY JUST TO, UM, GET THEM THIS CAMPUS OPEN IN 2029. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE ON TRACK OF. SO I KNOW THE MOTION IS TO WITHHOLD AT THIS POINT, BUT IT DOES IMPACT US, UH, THE LONGER EACH MONTH. UH, IT, IT TAKES, LET KATIE ADD MORE. YES. AND I, I WANTED TO ADDRESS YOUR TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CONCERNS 'CAUSE THEY'RE NOT BEING IGNORED. BUT IN ORDER TO DEVELOP A PROPER TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN, YOU FULLY NEED TO DEVELOP THE DESIGN FOR A CAMPUS. SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL HAS NINE SPECIALIZED UNITS AT THAT CAMPUS. WE HAVE SOME, WE HAVE A BROAD GROUP OF STUDENTS WE'RE SUPPORTING. AND PART OF THE CONSIDERATIONS IN A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS WHERE WE'RE GONNA DELIVER, WHERE THOSE KIDS ARE GONNA ACCESS THEIR CLASSROOMS FROM ON A DAILY BASIS. SO WE HAVE TO KNOW WHERE THOSE CLASSROOMS ARE GONNA BE LOCATED IN THE FINAL DESIGN TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE THE RIGHT TMP. SO THOSE KIDS HAD THE LEAST AMOUNT OF DISTANCE TO GET TO THEIR ROOM. THEY HAVE A, A REGULAR ROUTINE THAT SUPPORTS [02:25:01] THEIR OUTCOME AND, AND HELPS THEM EN ENGAGE IN REGULAR ACTIVITIES. WE HAVE MEDICALLY FRAGILE STUDENTS THAT WE'RE TRANSPORTING TO THAT STUDENT. WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE KIDS ARE COMING IN AND OUT AT OTHER CAMPUSES. WE NEED TO KNOW WHERE OUR EARLY CHILDHOOD STUDENTS ARE ENTERING AND WHERE MIDDLE SCHOOL AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ARE ENTERING. WE HAVE A VERY SPECIFIC PROTOCOL ON HOW MIDDLE AND HIGH SCHOOL STUDENTS ENTER OUR CAMPUSES IN ORDER TO ENSURE THEIR SAFETY. SO WE AGREE THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN'S VERY IMPORTANT. WE WORK WITH CHIEF MARTINEZ, OUR CHIEF OF POLICE. HE HAS, AS I SAID, A ROBUST RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE HAVE HAD SIX, WHAT WE CALL STAR, WHAT THE CITY OF DALLAS ACTUALLY CALLS STAR TEAM MEETINGS TO DATE FOR SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL. YES, OUR PLAN IS ACTUALLY VERY DEVELOPED AND WE DO NOT INTEND TO CHANGE IT, BUT WE ARE REVIEWING THAT WITH CITY STAFF IN A COLLABORATIVE EFFORT. EACH OF THOSE MEETINGS TAKES SEVERAL HOURS AND THEY BRING THEIR ENTIRE TEAM AND THEY'RE TALKING AND ENGAGING WITH OUR ENGINEERS AND ARCHITECTS AND SAYING, WHY ARE YOU DOING THIS? WHAT ARE YOU DOING HERE? AND WE'RE HAVING THAT COLLABORATIVE CONVERSATION TO ENSURE THAT THE SCHOOL THAT'S BEING DEVELOPED NOT ONLY MEETS CITY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS AND NOT ONLY MEETS DISD DESIGN STANDARDS, BUT IS THE BEST POSSIBLE SOLUTION FOR ALL OF OUR COMMUNITIES. SO IT'S NOT MADE IN A VACUUM, BUT WE WANNA HAVE MORE TIME TO PROPERLY DEVELOP THE DESIGNS TO PROVIDE THE BEST SOLUTION FOR STUDENTS FIRST AND OUR CAMPUSES AND OUR COMMUNITIES. SO, SO MY, UH, FOLLOW UP QUESTION IS, BECAUSE IF I UNDERSTAND YOU CORRECTLY, IF WE WAITED UNTIL OCTOBER, OCTOBER 22ND, IT COULD POTENTIALLY LIKE BUST YOUR BUDGET BECAUSE OF INFLATIONARY CONCERNS. WOULD IT ALSO IMPACT THE COMPLETION DATE OF YES. FALL 2029? YEAH, THEY WOULD'VE TO STAY ANOTHER SEMESTER. THEY'RE CURRENTLY LOCATED AT PIEDMONT. UH, SO WE'RE IN A SHORT WINDOW. THERE'S OTHER UNFORESEENS THAT COULD COME UP DURING CONSTRUCTION. OF COURSE, YOU KNOW, YOUR WEATHER EVENTS WE'RE BANKING IN THAT TYPE OF TIME. UH, BUT YES, IT WOULD PUT THAT DEADLINE IN JEOPARDY FOR OUR CONSTRUCTION AND OPENING. AND SO, UH, AND TO ADD TO KATIE'S POINT TOO ABOUT, UH, SOME OF THE LESSONS WE LEARNED THROUGH THE 2020 BOND PROGRAM. WE WERE MAKING TWO EARLY DESIGN DECISIONS EARLY ON AND WAS RESTRICTING US. AND EVERYBODY, UH, TALKS ABOUT THE CITY OF DALLAS' PERMITTING PROCESS. IT WAS SOME OF THE EARLY DECISIONS WE MADE HERE THAT CAUSED A LOT OF FRICTION LATER DOWN THE ROAD. AND WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT FLEXIBILITY TO, UH, LOOK AT ACCESS POINTS FOR OUR SPECIAL NEEDS STUDENTS BECAUSE WE WERE STUCK TO A CERTAIN PLAN. AND, AND, UH, IT JUST BECAME RESTRICTIVE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER KINGSTON. OKAY, I HAVE COMMENTS. I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST, UM, BRENT, YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT IF WE HOLD THIS CASE, YOU CAN'T OPEN THIS CAMPUS ON TIME, ARE YOU? I'M SAYING YOU'RE NOT TELLING MS. BODY THAT, ARE YOU? I'M SAYING IT PUTS IT AT RISK. OKAY. BUT YOU'RE NOT SAYING THAT WITH CERTAINTY, YOU'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO OPEN ON TIME. NO, MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. YOU'VE GOT SOME TIME BUILT INTO YOUR SCHEDULE, DON'T YOU? YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. LOOK, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION. I SUPPORT DISD. I THINK DISD HAS SOME FANTASTIC OUTCOMES, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT THIS BODY HAS AN OBLIGATION TO THE GREATER COMMUNITY AT LARGE. OUR STAFF MAY BE WELL INTENDED, DISD MAY BE WELL INTENDED, BUT IN MY EXPERIENCE, THE PEOPLE THAT MAKE THESE DECISIONS, THE GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE OFTEN LEFT OUT OF THE DISCUSSION ARE THE PEOPLE WITHOUT CHILDREN THAT LIVE IN THIS COMMUNITY AROUND THESE CAMPUSES. THEY'RE NOT ON THE COMMITTEES AT THE SCHOOL. THEY DON'T HAVE KIDS AT THE SCHOOL. THEY ARE NOT INVOLVED IN THESE DISCUSSIONS UNTIL THE VERY END OF THE DISCUSSION. AND THAT'S PART OF WHAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE. WE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT ARE SUPPOSED TO BE LOOKING OUT FOR THE GREATER COMMUNITY. AND WHEN YOU HAVE STAFF THAT DON'T LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE, UM, DISD OFFICIALS THAT DON'T LIVE IN THAT COMMUNITY, AND YOU HAVE PARENTS WHO ARE VERY FOCUSED ON WHAT'S BEST FOR THEIR CHILDREN, WHICH IS UNDERSTANDABLE, THEY MAY NOT BE ADVOCATING FOR WHAT'S BEST FOR THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN. AND I THINK IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE A NEW PROCESS, WE NEED TO BE VERY CAREFUL THAT WE'RE NOT LEAVING THE GREATER COMMUNITY OUT OF THE DISCUSSION, BECAUSE YOU'RE GONNA LOSE SUPPORT FOR DISD IF WE GET THIS WRONG. AND I DON'T WANNA SEE THAT HAPPEN. AND SOME OF THE SAFEGUARDS THAT WE HAVE BUILT INTO THIS SYSTEM HISTORICALLY HAVE BEEN TO PROTECT THAT FROM HAPPENING. SO IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A NEW SYSTEM, [02:30:01] A I THINK WE SHOULD BE EDUCATING THIS BODY AND THE PUBLIC ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING. NOT SURPRISED. WE'VE GOT A NEW SYSTEM WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON FOR MONTHS. HERE IT IS. DON'T YOU LOVE IT? HURRY UP AND PASS IT. AND HERE'S THE GUINEA PIG SCHOOL HERE IN DISTRICT FIVE. I DON'T THINK THAT'S RIGHT. I THINK IF, IF THE SCHOOL DISTRICT, IF IF THE COMMISSIONER OF THE DISTRICT WANTS TO TAKE AN EXTRA COUPLE OF WEEKS TO MAKE SURE SHE UNDERSTANDS THE IMPORT OF THE DECISION WE'RE MAKING, AND THAT HER DISTRICT AND HER COMMUNITY'S PROTECTED, WE OWE THAT TO HER AND WE OWE THAT TO THE PROCESS THAT WE'RE APPARENTLY EMBARKING ON USING FOR THE NEXT BOND PACKAGE. I THINK IT'S WORTH IT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, I'VE COMMISSIONER WILLARD, LET ME GO ONE AND THEN I'LL COME TO YOU. THERE'S NO ROUND ONE. YOU HAVE ROUND ONE. COMMISSIONER SAMS GO. THANK YOU. UM, JUST A QUESTION FOR, I APPRECIATE, UH, ALL OF THE TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF PLANNING THAT'S GOING ON. I UNDERSTAND THE ISSUES. IF WE PLAN TOO MUCH TOO EARLY, WE GOT OURSELVES BOXED IN. BUT IF WE WERE TO HOLD THIS AS COMMISSIONER SERATO SUGGESTED, IS YOUR PLANNING WORK GOING TO STOP OUR PRODUCTION OF THE DOCUMENTS AND COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS? YES. NO, IT, SO IT WILL CONTINUE OVER THE NEXT THREE OR FOUR WEEKS. WE'LL CONTINUE TO COLLABORATE. I MEAN, THAT'S, THAT'S, THAT'S THE WAY WE DO BUSINESS NOW, RIGHT? WE, WE HAVE DAILY CONVERSATIONS. WE, THEY HAVE A GREAT TEAM THAT WE WORK WITH. WE'RE GETTING EXCELLENT FEEDBACK. THERE WAS A COMMENT HERE EARLIER ABOUT DUMPSTERS, AND I UNDERSTAND THAT ONE, BUT THAT, THAT'S THE TYPE OF COMMENT THAT COMES OUT OF THESE DISCUSSIONS. SO WE'RE NOT MAKING THOSE MISTAKES. SO WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK AND DEVELOP THAT DE THAT DESIGN. GREAT. AND SO, MI MR UH, UH, COMMISSIONER SERRANO'S POINT EARLIER, SHE, WHEN SHE WAS AT THE PUBLIC MEETING, UH, SHE SAW SOME OF THE DEVELOPMENT, SOME OF THE THINGS. SO IT'S A TESTAMENT. WE ARE STILL, UH, INVOLVING THE PUBLIC. WE ARE HIGHLY ENGAGED. UH, THERE WAS A NEIGHBOR FROM ACROSS THE STREET, UH, OLDER GENTLEMAN, I DON'T KNOW IF YOU RECALL, UH, HE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT GEOTHERMAL WELLS AND STUFF WAY BEYOND, UH, JUST ON. AND SO WE ARE VERY TRANSPARENT. WE WANT TO KEEP THAT PART OF THE PROCESS. THAT'S WHY WE WERE ABLE TO GET 74% APPROVAL, UH, FROM THE VOTING COMMITTEE. AND, YOU KNOW, IN A CITY LIKE DALLAS, THAT'S VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE. SO THANK YOU. GOOD. YEAH. AND MR. CHAIR, THAT'S LAST QUESTION. JUST A BRIEF COMMENT. I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA SUPPORT THE MOTION, UM, FOR THE REASON THAT THE WORK IS GOING TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE. SO I DON'T BELIEVE WE'RE GRINDING ANYTHING TO A HALT. AND I THINK FURTHER, TO COMMISSIONER KINGSTON'S POINT, MR. CHAIR, THAT, UH, WE HAVE, IT DOES FEEL LIKE A BIT OF A NEW PROCESS HAS BEEN SPRUNG UPON US. AND SO, YOU KNOW, TO THE, TO THE FOLKS WHO COME TO SPEAK, IT MAY FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO GUM UP THE WORKS, BUT I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO WORK THINGS THROUGH AND, UH, WE NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT OF OPPORTUNITY TO DO THAT. THANK YOU. CAN I HAVE, UM, AND, AND TO THAT POINT, RIGHT? UM, I'VE HEARD THE DISTRICT'S REASON FOR THINNING THE PLAN AND IT'S FAIR. UM, THE OLD PLAN LOCKED IN EVERY LINE AND ADD, UM, AT A SCHOOL THAT CAN ADD A WING WITHOUT COMING BACK TO COUNCIL, IS A BAD OUTCOME FOR KIDS. UM, I HATE THAT THIS IS A LITMUS TEST FOR THE DISTRICT, AND IT'S HAPPENING IN THE SOUTHERN DIS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE CITY. UM, THE SOUTHERN SECTION OF THE CITY HAS ALWAYS, UM, HAD THESE THINGS BE TESTED ON THEM. AND, AND IT'S UNFORTUNATE THAT, UM, SAMUEL HAS, IS, IS FIRST UP HERE. UM, BUT THAT BEING SAID, I'M NOT ASKING TO GO BACK TO THAT. I'M ASKING FOR THE PLAN TO BIND THE THINGS THE NEIGHBORS ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT AND LEAVE THE REST FREE. UM, I'VE SEEN WHERE WE'VE, WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS COME TO THIS BODY AND APPROVE SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, AND THE COUNCIL MEMBERS IN THE CITY GET HIT FOR THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WORRIES ME. UM, MY HUMBLED OPINION WOULD BE TO FIX THE EDGES, THE HEIGHT, THE SETBACK FROM THE HOMES WHERE THE CARS COME IN AND OUT LOADING STAYS OFF THE STREET. THE BUFFER WHERE THE DUMPSTER CAN'T GO, THE FIELD LIGHTS RIGHT, LEAVE THE INSIDE OF THE SITE, THE FOOTPRINT, THE CLASSROOMS, THE PORTABLES THAT DON'T EXIST ANYMORE. UM, PARKING LOT LAYOUT RIGHT TO, TO THE DISTRICT. UM, LET THOSE CHANGES GO THROUGH AS MINOR AMENDMENTS WITHOUT A HEARING. I, I AGREE. THAT GIVES THE DISTRICT THE FLEXIBILITY NEEDS AND GIVES THE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS SURROUNDING THEM, UM, THE PROTECTION THEY WERE SHOWN. UM, SO THAT WOULD BE, UM, MY HOPE THAT WE GOT A SUP, UM, A DRAFT SUP CONDITION, UM, WITH, WITH SITE PLANS THAT ADDRESS THOSE THINGS. UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S MY COMMENT. UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER FOR SECOND ROUND, COX KAUFMAN SERATO. UM, I, I DON'T NECESSARILY, THERE IS TIMES THAT WE ARE MISS THAT, THAT THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IS CONSIDERED GUINEA PIGS. UH, BUT I, I'M, I'M, I'M, AND OFTENTIMES FROM THE COMMISSION STANDPOINT, WE DON'T NECESSARILY DRIVE THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. AND THEN YOU HAVE SOME [02:35:01] OF US WHO DO, AND I CAN'T SAY IT ENOUGH, MY MOTHER LIVES ON NCE. THERE IS A BRAND NEW SCHOOL AND TWO SCHOOLS WERE OPERATING AT THE SAME TIME AT ONE POINT. AND EACH ONE OF THE NEW SCHOOLS, I DON'T KNOW A AREA THAT HAS HAD THAT, THAT MANY SCHOOLS REBUILT IN THE LAST 10 YEARS THAN PLEASANT GROVE. THE MOST OF THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN TORE DOWN AND REBUILT. THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN IS SIMPLY AMAZING TO STAY, IF THEY STAY AT THE OLD P MONTH, UM, JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL ANY LONGER, IT IS GONNA CAUSE ISSUES IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD BECAUSE THERE IS NOT A GREAT RIGHT NOW GOING, DRIVING DOWN, UM, DRIVING DOWN HUES AT THIS POINT IS ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE DURING THOSE SCHOOL HOURS IN INCLUDING THE ELEMENTARY SCHOOL THAT'S IN THAT AREA. SO MY, MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS US HOLDING THIS, WE NEED STAFF TO, UH, BEFORE THE NEXT SCHOOL COMES UP, THAT WE NEED SOME TYPE OF BRIEFING SO THAT WE CAN CORRECT THIS EARLY ON. ALSO, AS COMMISSIONERS, EVERY TIME THAT DISD CONTACTS ME, OR EVERY TIME THAT THE REPRESENTATIVE MS. ELSIE CONTACTS ME, I IMMEDIATELY GO INTO WORK MODE. I IMMEDIATELY START MAKING SURE WE HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS SO THAT THERE WOULD BE NOT ONE DELAY WHEN IT MAKE, IS TO LIMIT THE AMOUNT OF DELAYS THAT HAPPENS THAT CPC. UM, AND WE DO THAT AND WE HAVE TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TO BE VERY DILIGENT WHEN IT COMES TO THESE SCHOOLS BECAUSE, UM, I HAVE A KID THAT'S STILL IN ELEMENTARY, AND I ALSO HAVE A MOTHER WHO IS SIX, JUST TURNED 70 YEARS OLD. AND SO I LOOK OUT ON BOTH PARTS AND I HAVE NOT SEEN WHAT I'M SEEING IN, IN PLEASANT GROVE FROM BISD. IT'S, IT IS SIMPLY AMAZING. I REMEMBER THE OLD TIMES WHEN YOU COULDN'T GET DOWN THE STREETS, AND THESE SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN BUILT IN THE LAST, LITERALLY SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COMMISSION. I KNOW THREE DIFFERENT SCHOOLS HAVE BEEN BUILT IN PLEASANT GROVE, AND THE TRAFFIC IS, IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT, ESPECIALLY THE ONE AT THE CORNER OF MILITARY AND JIM MILLER, UM, URBAN URBAN PARK, THAT THAT SCHOOL HAD CRAZY TRAFFIC ISSUES. SO I WANT TO TRUST DISD, BUT WE NEED STAFF TO TELL US WHAT THEIR PLANS IS BEFORE THIS, MAKE IT TO THIS BODY. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHEELER. UH, COMMISSIONER SERATO. UM, UH, THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER. I, I APPRECIATE YOUR COMMENTS. I'VE, I TOO HAVE SEEN THE NEW SCHOOLS. NATHANIEL HAWTHORNE WAS MY ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WHEN I WAS A KID. UM, AND SO I, I'VE SEEN THE NEW FACILITY AND THE NEW TRAFFIC, UM, MANAGEMENT PLAN THERE. UM, I THINK I'M, I'M SIMPLY ASKING FOR IT TO BE APPLIED HERE TO SAMUEL. UM, I THINK SAMUEL DESERVES IT. I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD DESERVES IT. I THINK THE STUDENTS DESERVE IT TO HAVE AS MUCH ATTENTION TO DETAIL HERE AS POSSIBLE, UM, AND NOT JUST LEAVE IT TO GOOD FAITH. UM, TO REAL QUICK QUESTION TO DISD STAFF. UM, WHAT COULD YOU ACCOMPLISH IN A MONTH? COULD IT BE DONE IN TWO WEEKS? I COULD AMEND MY MOTION TO MAKE THIS AN OCTOBER 8TH. LIKE, COULD YOU GET A TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN AND, AND A SITE PLAN ALL GATHERED UP IN TWO WEEKS? 'CAUSE I COULD DO IT IN TWO WEEKS. WE ABSOLUTELY CAN GET THAT INFORMATION GATHERED FOR YOUR REFERENCE. UM, PART OF THE, PART OF THE IDEA HERE, YES, WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH CITY STAFF, BUT THEY, THE CITY HAS A, A DEFINITE TIMELINE FOR PERMITTING. AND HAVING THAT THE ZONING APPROVED IS A REQUIREMENT FOR US TO SUBMIT FOR PERMIT. OKAY. SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, WOULD, UH, WOULD YOU PREFER AN OCTOBER 8TH DATE, OR DO YOU NEED UNTIL THE END OF THE MONTH? UH, WE'LL, WE'LL MOVE AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. WE WANT IT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, AND WE'LL DELIVER WHATEVER YOU ASK. WE'RE HERE TO GET YOUR FEEDBACK. UH, WE ARE TRYING TO IMPLEMENT A NEW PROCESS. UH, WE THOUGHT IT WAS A POSITIVE THING STARTING WITH THE SOUTHERN SECTOR IN FIRST AND NOT, NOT WAITING. YEAH. AND I APPRECIATE THAT SAMUEL'S AT THE TOP OF YOUR LIST. LIKE I SAID, 30 YEARS AGO, SAMUEL NEEDED A NEW BUILDING. UM, AND SO, UM, I'M WILLING TO AMEND MY MOTION TO HAVE IT BROUGHT TO THE OCTOBER 8TH MEETING, UM, INSTEAD OF OCTOBER 22ND, IF TIME IS OF THE ESSENCE. UM, BUT WE WANNA SEE DETAILS, , WE DEFINITELY WANNA SEE DETAILS. I THINK EVERYBODY ON THIS, ON THIS BODY, I CAN'T SPEAK FOR EVERYBODY, BUT I, WE'VE HEARD SEVERAL TIMES THAT THERE ISN'T ENOUGH CLARITY IN WHAT'S HAPPENING HERE. YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT LIGHTS, ABOUT ATHLETIC FACILITIES, FIELDS, UH, TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT. I DID SEE THE BEAUTIFUL RENDERINGS THAT YOU PRESENTED TO THE COMMUNITY, SO I KNOW YOU HAVE IT . IT'S THERE. SO, UM, WE WANT IT PRESENTED TO THIS BODY. AND I, SO I'M, I'M WILLING TO AMEND MY MOTION TO OCTOBER 8TH INSTEAD OF, UM, AND THAT'S FINE. AND YOUR, UM, THE PERSON WHO SECONDED AGREES. OKAY. SO IF YOU WANT TO RESTATE YOUR MOTION YEAH. UM, IN THE MATTER OF KZ 2 60 0 0 0 1 6 6, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND KEEP THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 8TH. THANK YOU. UM, WE'VE GOT A SECOND. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR THE SECOND, UH, COMMENT. HEARING NONE. OH, YES. COMM UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT, [02:40:01] UM, I'LL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. I'LL START WITH THAT. BUT I JUST WANTED TO SAY, I THINK THIS DEBATE HAS BEEN REALLY, REALLY HELPFUL AND, UH, REALLY A LOT OF IMPORTANT POINTS BROUGHT UP. UM, I WILL, I WILL SAY THAT IN MY YEARS ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION, I'VE ALWAYS BEEN TROUBLED BY THE DIFF THE, THE HURDLES THAT WE PUT ON SCHOOLS. UM, I DON'T SEE SCHOOLS AS A PROBLEMATIC LAND USE IN OUR COMMUNITIES. HOWEVER, I DON'T APPRECIATE STAFF DROPPING THIS ON THE DOCKET AND NOT TELLING US WHAT THEY'RE STARTING TO DO. I DON'T THINK THAT IS A VERY GOOD WAY TO HANDLE THE, THE PLAN COMMISSION. THIS IS A, THIS IS A PRETTY MAJOR SHIFT. AND SO WHILE I, I'M GENERALLY MORE, UM, LENIENT WITH SCHOOLS IN THE COMMUNITY THAN SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES ARE, I THINK THIS PROCESS THAT SEEMS TO BE OUTLINED HERE, IN THIS CASE, I THINK THIS PROCESS COULD BE A STEP TOO FAR, PARTICULARLY WITH A HIGH SCHOOL, WITH THE, THE SIZE OF THE SITE AND THE COMPLEXITY OF THE PROGRAMMING. UM, PERHAPS A NEIGHBORHOOD ELEMENTARY SCHOOL WITH A SITE, THE FRACTION OF THIS SIZE WITHOUT SPORTS FACILITIES, UM, THAT, UM, IS A, IS A SMALLER BUILDING. YOU KNOW, I I, I, I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY WORK ON STREAMLINING THAT PROCESS. THIS IS A, THIS IS A BIG CAMPUS, AND IT IS A, IT HAS A, YOU KNOW, THE PREDICTABLY A A A A, UH, COMPLEX, UH, PROGRAM. AND, UM, I THINK THIS, THIS PROCESS, UH, JUST SEEMS LIKE JUST A LITTLE TOO SIMPLISTIC FOR THE CASE THAT WE ARE EVALUATING. SO THAT'S MY, MY THOUGHTS. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. OH, OH, THERE I AM. UH, THANK YOU, UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT, I, UM, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU, AND I ALSO AM GOING TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. I'M DISAPPOINTED THAT, UH, IF YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE DRAWINGS AND YOU'VE GOT ALL THESE SPECIFICATIONS THAT WE DIDN'T SEE THOSE AND THAT APPARENTLY THE COMMUNITY HASN'T SEEN THOSE. UH, I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WHEN YOU COME BACK, THAT WE KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT ATHLETIC FACILITIES AND HOW ALL THAT'S GONNA WORK. YOU'RE, THIS IS A VERY COMPLICATED CAMPUS BY BEING A HIGH SCHOOL. UH, BUT, AND I THINK THAT DISD HAS AN OPPORTUNITY HERE TO LOOK AT SOME WAYS AND LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITIES ABOUT WHERE SOME OF YOUR FACILITIES ARE BUILT AND WHETHER THEY HAVE TO ALWAYS HAVE CERTAIN THINGS. FOR INSTANCE, THE HIGH SCHOOL, DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE A TRACK? DOES IT HAVE TO HAVE A BASEBALL FIELD AND A SOFTBALL FIELD AND A FOOTBALL FIELD AND SO FORTH? SO WHEN YOU COME INTO A NEIGHBORHOOD AREA, THOSE THINGS HIGHLY IMPACT THE SURROUNDING AREA. SO IT'S A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THAN, AS MR. HOUSEWRIGHT, UH, REPRESENTED AS FAR AS WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A HIGH SCHOOL AND A MIDDLE SCHOOL OR A ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. THE TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT SYSTEM ALSO IS VERY MUCH IMPACTED BY ALL OF THOSE FACILITIES SITTING ON ONE CAMPUS. NOW, IN OTHER AREAS, YOU HAVE THEM SEPARATED. AND, UH, ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT TOWNVIEW THAT MAKES IT SO EASY IS THAT IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY ATHLETIC FACILITIES. YOU HAVE NOTHING BUT CLASSROOMS THERE, SO YOU HAVE A LOT LESS TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PROGRAM. SO MY INVOLVEMENT IN DISD OVER 50 YEARS HAS, UH, WASHED A LOT OF CHANGES, BUT PROBABLY NOT ENOUGH WHEN IT COMES TO SOME OF THE IMPACTS THAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. AND AGAIN, I THINK THAT ON THE EIGHTH, YOUR COMMUNITY AND MS. SERRANO AND OTHERS NEED TO HAVE A LOT MORE INFORMATION SINCE THAT IS THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT IS THEIR SCHOOL. AND, UH, BUT, AND I DO APPRECIATE DISD. ALL THREE OF MY CHILDREN WENT THROUGH DISD. AND, UH, I'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH THEM FOR ABOUT 50 YEARS. SO I UNDERSTAND SOME OF YOUR PROBLEMS, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES, UH, WITH THE CHANGEOVERS, WITH TRUSTEES AND STAFF AND EVERYTHING ELSE, THINGS DON'T GET DONE WITH AS MANY DETAILS AS WE'D LIKE. BUT I HOPE YOU HAVE THOSE ON THE EIGHTH, AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR HELP. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. COMMISSIONER KA. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. I, UNFORTUNATELY, COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT AND SIMS BOTH STOLE MY THUNDER. I, I WANTED TO SAY MANY OF THE SAME THINGS THAT THEY'VE SAID. I THINK THIS PROCESS HAS BEEN SHORT CIRCUITED, QUITE FRANKLY. UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTING COMMISSIONER SERRA'S MOTION. I WOULD'VE PREFERRED THE 22ND, BECAUSE I THINK TWO WEEKS IS A VERY SHORT TIMEFRAME FOR YOU FOLKS TO GO BACK AND PROVIDE THE INFORMATION, UH, THAT THIS BODY EXPECTS GOING FORWARD. WE'VE EVALUATED OTHER SCHOOLS, UH, RASD IN, IN MY DISTRICT, AND THEY CAME PREPARED WITH A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF DETAIL, INCLUDING [02:45:01] TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT PLAN DRAWINGS OF WHAT THEY INTENDED TO DO. THEY HAD ENGAGED THE COMMUNITY SIGNIFICANTLY. I WAS INVOLVED IN THOSE MEETINGS. AND AGAIN, I FEEL LIKE THIS PROCESS FOR THIS CASE HAS BEEN SHORT CIRCUITED. I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S YOUR FAULT, UH, BUT I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S AN EXPECTATION ON THE PART OF THIS BODY TO SEE THE KIND OF DUE PROCESS THAT WE EXPECT. AND I HOPE WE'LL SEE THAT GOING FORWARD, NOT ONLY IN THIS CASE, BUT OTHERS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YES. AND JUST FY IT'S THREE WEEKS UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING WON'T BE THE FIRST, IT'LL BE THE EIGHTH. JUST FYI, UM, COMMISSIONER SERATO DID PICK THAT UP IN HER MOTION, THOUGH. THANK YOU. UH, ANY MORE COMMENTS? HEARING NONE READY FOR VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. SEE YOU GUYS ON THE FIRST OH, THE EIGHTH. YES. WE'RE GONNA TAKE A 10 MINUTE BREAK JUST TO RESET AND, OKAY. IT'S 3 21 AND WE'RE RETURNING TO THE DALLAS CITY PLAN COMMISSION. I THINK, UM, OUR SCORE IS UP AND WE'RE ON CASE NUMBER NINE. MAYBE. UH, CASE NUMBER THAT'S ON CONSENT. YES. [10. 26-3020A An application for CR Community Retail District on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District and for A(A) Agricultural District on property zoned CR Community Retail District, on the south corner of Ravenview Road and S. Beltline Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: 5900 Bonnie View Rd LLC / Shazeb Daredia Representative: S.I. Abed of DDC, Inc. / Shafiqul Abed U/A From: June 25, 2026 and August 6, 2026. Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 8 Z-26-000082] UH, 10. THANK YOU. THANK YOU GANG. ANYONE WANTS THIS ONE BRIEFED OR HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OUR STAFF MEMBER? NO, I NEED A BRIEF. PERFECT. LET'S READ IT INTO THE RECORD. I, UH, 10 IS AN APPLICATION FOR CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE, AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT, AND FOR, UH, AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON A PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT. UH, LOCATED ON THE SOUTH CORNER OF RAVEN VIEW ROAD AND SOUTH. UH, BE TIME ROAD, UH, STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. DO WE HAVE ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? WELCOMING? CAN YOU START WITH YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD? THANK YOU. YES. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS JESSICA RAMIREZ. IRA RESIDE AT 2 7 2 WEST LAWSON ROAD, TRAILER 100, AND I'M HERE A PART OF, STILL REALLY LOUD VICE PRESIDENT OF CLAYBROOK NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION CRIME WATCH. I HAVE LIVED SPECIFICALLY IN EAST KLEBERG FOR THE PAST 27 YEARS, AND I'M HERE TO SPEAK REGARDING ZONING CASE 2 6 0 0 0 0 8 2 THIS WEEK. I RECENTLY VISITED THE PROPERTY AT AVON VIEW AND BELTLINE AND WAS AS A LONGTIME RESIDENT. I'M VERY CONCERNED HOW LONG THIS PROPERTY HAS BEEN VACANT AND CURRENT ITS CURRENT CONDITION TODAY. I THOUGHT I SHOULD LET THIS BODY KNOW. DURING MY VISIT, I NOTICED THAT A SIGNIFICANT OVERGROWTH OF VEGETATION, TRASH DUMPING DEAD TREES, DENSE BRUSH AND OBSTRUCTION TO PUBLIC VISIBILITY BETWEEN FISH ROAD AND BELTLINE ROAD. AND I HAVE ALSO REPORTED THIS TO 3 1 1. AND, UM, THE TREES ALONG THE PROPERTY ARE, ARE REALLY AN EYESORE. THEY HAVE BEEN THERE FOR A VERY LONG TIME, AND RECENTLY WE'VE HAD TREES CUT FOR AUTO ZONE, 200 YEAR OLD TREES CUT FOR AN AUTO ZONE. UM, SO THAT SHOULD TELL YOU SOMETHING. AND WE HAVE REPEATEDLY BEEN BEFORE YOU GUYS REGARDING LACK OF INFRASTRUCTURE, TRAFFIC SAFETY ISSUES, ESPECIALLY DOWN BELT LINE CORRIDOR. LAST MEETING, THIS BODY PROBABLY DISCUSSED EAST LEEBURG AUTHORIZED HEARINGS AND CHANGES TO THAT. SO I APPRECIATE COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN AND P AND D PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT FOR VISITING US, UM, A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. AND FOR, UH, AS A LIVING, UM, JUST BRIEFLY, I, I DO GO DOOR, DOOR TO DOORS AT CANVAS NEIGHBORHOODS, UM, FOR VARIOUS REASONS. UM, AND SO SPEAKING TO NEIGHBORS IS NOT OUT OF MY COMFORT ZONE. I DID SPEAK DIRECTLY TO EIGHT NEIGHBORS, MOSTLY ALL THAT NEIGHBORHOOD IS GATED. UM, BUT THE EIGHT THAT I DID SPEAK WITH WERE THE, OUT OF THE 49 PROPERTY OWNERS THAT WERE NOTIFIED. AND ALL OF THOSE SAID THAT THEY DID NOT RECEIVE A NOTICE. THE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE, UM, VERY HAPPY THAT I CAME BY AND ACTUALLY HAVE SEEN THE SIGNS AND ZONING SIGNS, BUT THEY WERE, THEY EXPRESSED CONCERNS BECAUSE BACK IN 2021 IN BOTCH SPRINGS, RIGHT ACROSS THE BRIDGE OF 20, THERE WAS A FIRE. THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WERE ACTUALLY, UM, NOT TO SAY THE CAUSE OF IT, BUT THE, ACCORDING TO DALLAS MORNING NEWS, THEY HAVE FIVE PROPERTIES, SIMILAR PROPERTIES IN DALLAS COUNTY, TWO IN PLEASANT GROVE, TWO IN DISTRICT EIGHT, ONE IN IRVING. AND THEY ALSO EXPRESSED CONCERNS, UH, REGARDING THE ZONING CHANGE. RESIDENTS LIKE MYSELF ADDITIONALLY RAISED QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROPERTY'S OWNERSHIP, THEIR HISTORY, PRIOR LITIGATION, ESPECIALLY WITH ALEX , [02:50:01] AKA SCA INVESTMENTS IN BOSCH SPRINGS. IN 2021, I WAS ACTUALLY A VOLUNTEER AT OPAL J SMITH, UH, FOOD PANTRY WHERE I HAD TO HELP THESE RESIDENT, THESE PEOPLE THAT LOST THEIR HOMES BECAUSE OF THE FIRE. MOST OF THEM HAVE NEVER RECOVERED FROM IT. AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM IN RILEY OFF OF ST. AUGUSTINE SUPER FUELS. THEY ACTUALLY GOT SUED BY BUCKY'S FOR TAKING THE LOGO OF THEIR LIKENESS. AND SO THAT'S A PROBLEM AS WELL. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU AGAIN, UM, COMMISSIONERS. AND SO RESPECTFULLY ASK THIS COMMISSION TO PLEASE CONSIDER THE PROPERTY AND THE HISTORY THAT WE HAVE IN THE COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. CAN WE GET A MOTION? UH, YES, MR. CHAIR. AND A QUICK COMMENT AFTER, UH, IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 8 2, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THE MATTER ON ADVISEMENT UNTIL NOVEMBER 19TH, 2026. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND, UH, COMMENTS. UH, JUST REALLY A QUICK COMMENT. UH, UH, THIS AREA, UH, THAT'S BEEN CONSIDERED FOR REZONING. IT'S RIGHT IN THE HEART OF WHAT WE DISCUSSED BACK ON SEPTEMBER 3RD. IT'S A PART OF THE AUTHORIZED HEARING. UH, WE WILL BE HAVING OUR KICKOFF MEETING ON, I THINK ON OCTOBER THE FIRST, OR SOMETIME THAT FIRST OR SECOND WEEK. UM, SO THIS WILL ALL BE A PART OF THAT, AND WE'RE JUST TRYING TO HAVE MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE THAT ANY ZONING THAT'S DONE IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO FOR THE AUTHORIZED HEARING. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? UNTIL NOVEMBER 19TH. THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR TO HOLD. AND THE SECOND, ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [11. 26-3021A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for the sale of alcoholic beverages in conjunction with a general merchandise or food store 3,500 square feet or less, on property zoned CR Commercial Retail District with a D-1 Liquor Control Overlay, on the southeast corner of Great Trinity Forest Way and Forsythe Drive, AKA 7602 Great Trinity Forest Way. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and conditions. Applicant: Prabin Shakya / S Great Trinity Forest Way LLC. U/A From: August 20, 2026. Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 8 Z-26-000148] CASE NUMBER 11. ITEM, UM, NUMBER 11 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR A, A FOOD STORE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS ON A PROPERTY ZONE CR COMMERCIAL RETAIL DISTRICT WITH A T ONE LIQUOR CONTROL OVERLAY LOCATED ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF, UH, GREAT TRINITY FOREST, UH, WAY. AND, UH, FROSTY DRIVE, ALSO KNOWN AS 76 0 2. GREAT TRINITY FOREST WAY STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? OH, DID YOU WANT THIS ONE BRIEF? I THINK WE THINK WE HAD IT. HAVE WE HAD THIS ONE BRIEF BEFORE, OR IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE BRIEF? NO. BRIEF. OKAY. PERFECT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, ROB BALDWIN, 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET SUITE, BE IN DALLAS. THIS IS A REQUEST TO ALLOW ALCOHOL SALES, UH, FOR A CONVENIENCE STORE. THIS IS ON GREAT TRINITY FOREST PARKWAY, UH, WEST OF 1 75 OVER BY WHERE THE, THE GOLF COURSE IS DOWN IN, IN THAT AREA. THE AUDUBON CENTER. UM, THIS IS AN EXISTING STRIP CENTER. IT HAS A D ONE OVERLAY IN IT, WHICH DOES REQUIRE AN SUP FOR ALCOHOL SALES. UM, AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE'RE, WE'RE HERE FOR. UM, I THINK IT'S A PRETTY SIMPLE REQUEST, UH, LIKE IT'S INLINE STRIP CENTER. IT USED TO BE A TATTOOING SUPPLY FACILITY, BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND NOW THEY'D LIKE TO MAKE IT A CONVENIENCE STORE. I HOPE YOU CAN SUPPORT THIS REQUEST. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER SPEAKERS ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. LET'S GET A MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 4 8. UH, MOVE THE CLOSE OF PUBLIC HEARING AND NOT FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND DENY THE SUP WITHOUT PREJUDICE. THANK YOU FOR YOUR MOTION. COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR YOUR SECOND. ANY COMMENTS? JUST, UH, REAL QUICKLY, I, I DRIVE THROUGH THIS AREA QUITE A BIT. I, I TAKE MY DAUGHTER TO A BABYSITTER ALONG GREAT TRINITY WAY, AND IN THIS AREA THERE'S A LOT OF GAS STATIONS, UH, C STORES THAT PRIMARILY SELL ALCOHOL. IT'S VERY HIGHLY CONCENTRATED AND IT KIND OF, AND IT P PLAGUES THE AREA. AND IN ADDITIONAL SEP FOR THESE SERVICES WILL FURTHER LIKE SALT THE, THE EARTH HERE. UH, THIS SEP WOULDN'T CONTRIBUTE TO ENHANCE OR PROMOTE THE WELFARE OF THE AREA, AND IT'LL LIKELY BE A DETRIMENT TO THE AREA THAT ALREADY SUFFERS FROM CRIME THIRD PIE IMPACTING PUBLIC HEALTH AND SAFETY. SO I DO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT TO DENY THIS SUP WITHOUT PREJUDICE. I'M HOPEFUL THAT THESE CONDITIONS CAN CHANGE AND THERE MAY BE A TIME WHEN THIS [02:55:01] SUP IS ACCEPTABLE, BUT IN THE CURRENT STATE IS NOT. SO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT ON THIS MOTION. THANK YOU FOR THE COMMENTS. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? SEEING NONE. UM, ALL IN, WE HAVE A DENIAL ON THE FLOOR. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES CARRIED. THANK YOU. [12. 26-3022A An application for LI Light Industrial District on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District, on the south line of Telephone Road, east of N. Dallas Avenue. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: HSM Equity Partners, Inc. / Mark Smith Representative: Land Use Planning & Zoning Services / Chelsea Thurman U/A From: April 9, 2026 and June 11, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 8 Z-26-000003] CASE NUMBER 12, MR. LEE? YES. YES. DON'T READ IT. MR. UM, ANYBODY NEED A BRIEF ON THIS ONE OR QUESTIONS FOR STAFF SEPARATE FROM THE HEARING? UH, NO BRIEF, NOT NECESSARY. OKAY. NO BRIEF AND NECESSARY. LET'S READ IT INTO THE RECORD AND GET IT GOING. THANK YOU, JUSTIN. UH, ITEM 12, AN APPLICATION FOR LI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE. AA AGRICULTURAL DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF TELEPHONE ROAD, EAST OF NORTH DALLAS AVENUE. STATE. RECOMMENDATIONS APPROVAL. THANK YOU. UM, ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? HEARING NONE. GOT A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 0 3. I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER THE 22ND. 2026. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR THE SECOND, UH, ANY COMMENTS? IT JUST, OH, JUST FOR THE RECORD, I'M HOLDING THIS CASE AT THE REQUEST OF THE APPLICANT. UH, WE'RE GONNA PUSH IT BACK AND CONTINUE TO WORK ON THIS, AND I'M PRETTY CONFIDENT IT'LL COME TO A RESOLUTION AT THE TPC HEARING ON OCTOBER THE 22ND. 22ND. THANK YOU. CASE NUMBER 13. MR. LEE, WE NEED TO VOTE. SORRY. UM, , ANY MORE COMMENT? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [13. 26-3023A An application for MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned R-10(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Lyndon B. Johnson Frwy, south line of Sandyland Boulevard, west of S. Saint Augustine Drive. Staff Recommendation: Denial. Applicant: Akinyemi Akintoye U/A From: August 6, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 8 Z-26-000142] NOW, CASE NUMBER 13. DO WE NEED A BRIEF? NO, WE, WE BRIEFED THIS ONE ALREADY. PERFECT. UH, READ IT. ANY RECORD, LEE? THANK YOU. AN APPLICATION FOR MF MF DASH TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE R DASH 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF LYNDON B JOHNSON FREEWAY, SOUTH LINE OF SANDY LAND BOULEVARD, WEST OF SOUTH ST. AUGUSTINE DRIVE STATE. RECOMMENDATION IS DENIAL. THANK YOU. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE HERE? SEEING NONE, HEARING NONE. COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 1 4 2. I MOVE TO FOLLOW THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF DENIAL, BUT WITHOUT PREJUDICE. THANK YOU. ANY COMMENTS? UH, THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. YEAH. UH, WE DISCUSSED THIS CASE AT LENGTH AND I HEARD MR. LEE'S COMMENTS AND, UH, MR. PEPE AND I TOOK THE EXTRA TIME TO GO OUT THERE TO EVALUATE IT, SEE THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY, AND, UH, BASED ON THEIR REASONING AND IN THE CASE REPORT, I THINK PRETTY CONSISTENT. UM, AND THIS AREA IS, IS CHANGING, AND I WON'T SAY NECESSARILY IT'S CHANGING FOR THE, FOR THE BETTER. I MEAN, WE, WE'VE ALL BEEN, WE'VE BEEN OPERATING UNDER THE PRESUMPTION THAT IN ORDER TO MAKE THE SITUATION BETTER HERE IN DALLAS AND SOUTHERN DALLAS, WE NEED TO INCREASE THE HOUSING INVENTORY. BUT WHAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING LATELY IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR THAT A LOT OF HOUSING IS BECOMING, WE HAVE NEW HOMES THAT AREN'T BEING SOLD. WE HAVE A LOT OF VACANT LOTS AND WE HAVE APARTMENTS WITH A LOT OF VACANCIES. AND I ONLY SAY THAT, UH, TO SAY THAT WE HAVE TO GET PAST THIS, THE PRESUMPTION THAT THAT MORE AND MORE HOUSING IS NEEDED WHEN THE CURRENT ECONOMIC TIMES ARE, ARE PROBABLY PREVENTING, UH, UH, HOME OWNERSHIP IN, IN THOSE TO RENT IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR. WHERE THE BETTER LAND USE IN THE AREA IS TO BRING IN BUSINESSES WHERE PEOPLE CAN WORK, UH, IN THE AREA. AND THAT'S KIND OF TIES INTO WHAT MR. PEPE WAS SAYING, THAT ADDITIONAL MULTIFAMILY IN THIS AREA, UH, REALLY WOULDN'T SERVE AS THE BEST LAND USE. UH, THERE MAY BE, UH, MAYBE BETTER USE, UH, LESS IMPACTFUL USE FOR THIS PARTICULAR LOT, BUT MULTIFAMILY ISN'T, ISN'T IT? AND SO, UH, BASED ON THE EVALUATION AND ASSESSMENT, I AGREE WITH, THAT'S RECOMMENDATION. AND THIS SHOULD BE DENIED WITHOUT PREJUDICE. THANK YOU, UM, FOR THE MOTION IN THE SECOND COMMISSIONER, HOUSEWRIGHT, ANY [03:00:01] MORE COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. LET'S GET A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY. CASE NUMBER 1614. [14. 26-3024A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for an accessory community center (private) on property zoned R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the northeast corner of Catalonia Drive and Galicia Lane. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to site plan and conditions. Applicant: Tisha Vaidya Representative: Stephanie Murphy U/A From: September 3, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 8 Z-26-000122] I, OOH, JUST JUMPED ALL THE WAY AHEAD, HUH? THANK YOU, MR. LEE. UM, DO WE NEED A BRIEFING ON THIS ONE? YOU'VE BEEN BRIEFED BEFORE. HAVE YOU ANSWERED IT? YEAH. NO, NO QUESTIONS. YEAH. NO ADDITIONAL BRIEFING FOR 14. OKAY. READ IT IN THE RECORD. THANK YOU. AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ACCESSORY COMMUNITY CENTER PRIVATE ON PROPERTY ZONE R DASH 7.5, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CATALONIA DRIVE AND GALACIA LANE. STAFF RECOMMENDATIONS, APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM? THIS IS 14. NOBODY'S ONLINE. OKAY. I'M SEEING NONE. HEARING NONE. COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOU HAVE A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 1 22. I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER THE EIGHTH, 2026. THANK YOU FOR THAT MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND. ANY COMMENTS? UH, WE WILL BE HAVING A COMMUNITY MEETING ON OCTOBER THE FIRST, UH, FOR THIS CASE. THANK YOU. UM, THERE'S NO MORE COMMENTS. WE WILL GO AHEAD AND VOTE. UH, ALL IN FAVOR? WE HAVE A HOLD ON THE FLOOR. UH, ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY. THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. [15. 26-3025A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a bar, lounge, or tavern on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development District 269, Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the south line of Elm Street, west of N. Crowdus Street, AKA 2650 Elm Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Sweet Bar Dallas / Marvin Regalado U/A From: August 6, 2026, August 20, 2026, and September 3, 2026. Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 2 Z-26-000135] DO WE? YES. 15. UH, COUNCIL, UH, DISTRICT TWO, DO WE NEED A BRIEF ON THAT ONE? I THINK WE COULD JUST MOVE TO THE PUBLIC HEARING AND I CAN ASK QUESTIONS. OKAY, PERFECT. LET'S GET IT READ INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU. UH, ITEM 15, AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BARGE, LOUNGE OR TAVERN ON PROPERTY ZONE TRACK A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT 6 2 6 9 DEEP ELM SLASH NEAR EAST SIDE DISTRICT ON THE SOUTH LINE OF ELM STREET WEST, WEST OF NORTH CRODA STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS 26 50 ELM STREET. STAFF. RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND STAFFS RECOMMENDED ITS CONDITIONS. THANK YOU MR. LEE. UH, ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THIS? UM, YES. NO. UH, IS THAT POSSIBLE? LEO? NO FAVOR GOES FIRST I THINK IN FAVOR. HAS ROBERT RU CALLS FOR IN FAVOR TO GO FIRST. HOLD ON ONE SECOND, PLEASE. IS THERE ANY OBJECTION TO ALLOWING, UH, AT THE DIOCESE? IS ANYBODY OBJECTING TO THE APPLICANT GOING FIRST? I MEAN, THE OPPOSITION GOING FIRST IN THIS CASE? YES. WE HAVE ONE IN OPPOSITION. IS THE APPLICANT HERE? YES. AND THE OPPOSITION IS HERE AS WELL? YES. UM, BECAUSE WE HAVE, YES. UM, AT FOR NOW, BECAUSE THERE'S OPPOSITION TO THAT, WE'RE GONNA LET THE APPLICANT GO FIRST. REBUTTAL. THE APPLICANT DOES GET A REBUTTAL AFTER THE OPPOSITION, SO, UM, WE'LL KEEP THAT PROCEDURE IN PLACE. THANK YOU. COULD YOU BRING UP THE SLIDE PRESENTATION FOR THAT CASE PLEASE? AND JUST, JUST, JUST PUT IT ON THE AERIAL AND JUST LEAVE IT THERE. NO, YOU'RE FINE. OH, I DIDN'T KNOW THAT. SORRY. HERE, UH, JUST THE PRESENTATION HERE. YEAH. THIS, YEAH. AND THEN JUST PUT IT UP THE A NO, THAT'S, THAT'S THE RIGHT ONE. IT'S, THAT'S NOT THE RIGHT ONE. NO. [03:05:01] UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF COMMISSION NAME'S WARREN ELLIS, 8,700 STONE BROOK PARKWAY, FRISCO, TEXAS. I'M HERE TO DISCUSS SUP APPLICATION FOR SUITE R. FIRST, I WANT TO THANK COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND DEEP BEUM FOUNDATION FOR TAKING THE TIME TO MEET WITH US TO DISCUSS OUR CLIENT'S SUP REQUEST. WE APPRECIATE THE FOUNDATION'S CONCERNS AND UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH OPERATING AND ESTABLISHMENT IN A DEEP EL ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. NEW BUSINESSES CAN EXPERIENCE CHALLENGES AS THEY ESTABLISH THEMSELVES, PARTICULARLY IN AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT WHERE MULTIPLE BUSINESSES, LARGE CROWDS, PARKING AREAS, AND PUBLIC STREETS INTERACT AT THE SAME TIME. MY CLIENT RECOGNIZES THAT THERE HAS BEEN INCIDENCES IN THE AREA AND HAS TAKEN RESPONSIBILITIES FOR ADDRESSING THOSE MANNERS THAT ARE IN, IN, WITHIN THEIR CONTROL. HOWEVER, WHILE THE DEEP EL SAFE PROGRAM OP OFF DUTY ACTIVITY INCIDENT REPORT IDENTIFIES SUITES CULPABILITY FOR THESE INCIDENTS DURING MAY TO JUNE 26, A CLOSER EXAMINATION OF THE REPORT INCIDENTS SHOWS THAT THE MAJORITY DID NOT OCCUR INSIDE OR ON SUITE PREMISES. FOR EXAMPLE, THE REPORT IDENTIFIES SEVERAL INSTANCES WHERE ON MARCH THE FIRST 2020 6 2 18 WHEELERS WERE PARKED IN FRONT A SUITE OCCUPYING THE LEFT LANE OF THE TRAFFIC. AND ON FEBRUARY 2ND, 26, EMP OFFICERS RECEIVED A NOTIFICATION OF A STOLEN VEHICLE AND STOPPED AND STOPS WAS MADE IN FRONT OF THE SUITE. WE DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHY THESE AND OTHER INSTANCES WERE CITED IN THIS REPORT WHEN SUITE NOR THEIR PATRONS WERE INVOLVED. THE AREA SLIDE ILLUSTRATES THE LOCATION OF THE SURROUNDING PARKING AREAS AND THEIR RELATIONSHIPS TO SUITE. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT CONTEXT BECAUSE THESE AREAS CAN BECOME HEAVILY CONGESTED WHEN MULTIPLE BUSINESSES CLOSE, TYPICALLY AROUND 2:00 AM WHEN INSTANCES HAVE OCCURRED INSIDE OR IMMEDIATELY ASSOCIATED WITH SUITE, SECURITY PERSONNEL HAS TAKEN APPROPRIATE ACTIONS INCLUDING INTERVENING, ATTEMPTING TO DEESCALATE SITUATION IN CONTACTING THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES WHEN NECESSARY, SUITE UNDERSTANDS THAT MAINTAINING THE SAFE AND ORDERLY ENVIRONMENT REQUIRES VIGILANCE, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT. SUITE HAS IDENTIFIED OR HAS DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE ACTION PLAN, SPECIFICALLY ADDRESSING THE SIX AREAS IDENTIFIED IN THE FOUNDATION'S SUP CRITERIA INPUT OUTLINED IN THE SUITES. ACTION PLAN SPECIFICALLY, WE MAINTAIN TRAINED SECURITY PERSONNEL AND WE'LL HIRE AT LEAST ONE OFF-DUTY LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER DURING DESIGNATED HOURS, INCLUDING AFTER CLOSING. THIS PRESENCE WILL PROVIDE ANOTHER LEVEL OF SECURITY AND ALLOW SITUATIONS REQUIRING LAW ENFORCEMENT AUTHORITIES TO BE ADDRESSED PROPERLY. SUITE IS COMMITTED TO BEING A RESPONSIBLE OPERATOR AND GOOD NEIGHBOR. WE ARE NOT SIMPLY ACKNOWLEDGING THE FOUNDATION'S CONCERNS. WE ARE TAKING CONCRETE STEPS TO ADDRESS THEM. THIS IS A COMMENT, THIS IS, THIS IS A COMMITMENT TO ACTION, NOT SIMPLY A STATEMENT OF INTENTION. MY CLIENT IS PREPARED TO IMPLEMENT THESE MEASURES AND ESTABLISH THIS CLEAR PROCEDURES THAT CAN BE MONITORED, MAINTAINED, AND IMPROVED OVER TIME. WE RECOGNIZE THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, NEXT SPEAKER IN FAVOR. ALL RIGHT. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS MARVIN RETO. I WAS BORN AND RAISED HERE IN DALLAS, AND I'M A GRADUATE OF NORTH DALLAS HIGH SCHOOL. I'VE WORKED IN THE HOSPITALITY AND ENTERTAINMENT INDUSTRY SINCE 2007, AND IN DEEP ELLUM AS BOTH A BARTENDER AND MANAGER SINCE 2016. OVER THE PAST 10 YEARS, I'VE SEEN DEEP, DEEP ELLUM FROM MANY DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES, AND I'VE UNDERSTAND THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT COMES WITH OPERATING A BUSINESS IN THIS COMMUNITY. AS A MANAGER OF SWEET BAR, I TAKE THAT RESPONSIBILITY SERIOUSLY. WE HAVE LISTENED TO THE CONCERNS RAISED BY THE COMMUNITY, THE DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION AND THE CITY, AND WE HAVE USED THOSE CONCERNS AS AN OPPORTUNITY TO STRENGTHEN OUR OPERATION. WE ARE STRENGTHENING OUR SECURITY PROCEDURES, IMPROVING OUR DAY-TO-DAY OPERATION, ESTABLISHING CLEARER EXPECTATIONS FOR OUR STAFF, AND REINFORCING ACCOUNTABILITY THROUGHOUT THE BUSINESS. MOVING FORWARD, WE WANT TO WORK TOGETHER WITH THE DEEP ALUM FOUNDATION AND NEIGHBORING BUSINESS TO STRENGTHEN COMMUNICATION, BUILD UNITY, AND HELP CREATE A SAFER AND STRONGER COMMUNITY. [03:10:01] WE, WE BELIEVE THAT WHEN BUSINESSES WORK TOGETHER, SHARE CONCERNS AND SUPPORT ONE ANOTHER, THE ENTIRE DEVELOP COMMUNITY BENEFITS. OUR GOAL IS, OUR GOAL IS CLEAR. OPERATE A SAFE AND RE RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS, BE A GOOD NEIGHBOR, AND BE A POSITIVE PARTNER TO DEAF AND THE GREATER DEEP ELLUM COMMUNITY. WE WANT OUR PRESENCE TO CONTINUE, CONTRIBUTE POSITIVELY, POSITIVELY TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE, WORK, VISIT, AND OPERATE BUSINESSES HERE. COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT IS ALSO IMPORTANT TO US. THE PAST CHRISTMAS SUITE HOSTED A LARGE TO TOY GIVEAWAY AND PROVIDED FREE FOOD TO FAMILIES IN THE COMMUNITY, ALL AT NO COST TO THEM. IN MY 10 YEARS WORKING DEEP EL, THIS WAS THE FIRST MAJOR COMMUNITY EVENT I PERSONALLY PARTICIPATED IN, WHERE A BUSINESS IN THE AREA GAVE BACK. UM, ON THAT SCALE, SEEING THAT TURNOUT SHOWED ME THE POSITIVE IMPACT A BUSINESS CAN HAVE BEYOND ITS DOORS. WE WANT SWEET BAR TO BE PART OF DEEP DEVELOP FOR THE LONG TERM. WE ARE COMMITTED, RESPONSIBLE, OPERATE OPERATIONS, ACCOUNTABILITY, PUBLIC SAFETY, STRONGER RELATIONSHIP WITH OUR NEIGHBORS, AND DEAF AND CONTINUING INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT OUR COMMITMENT WITH ULTIMATELY BE DEMONSTRATED THROUGH OUR ACTIONS, AND WE WELCOME THE OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW THAT WE RESPECTFULLY ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR SUP AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE MOVING FORWARD AS A RESPONSIBLE AND ACTIVE PART OF THE DEEP ADAM COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDER IT. AND I'D LIKE TO CONCLUDE MY SHOWING, SHOWING A SHORT VIDEO FROM OUR COMMUNITY EVENT AROUND CHRISTMAS TREE AND CHRISTMAS. THIS WILL GO HOME WHERE YOU CAN SEE ROCK AROUND CHRISTMAS TREE. LET EVERYTHING DO FEELING WHEN YOU HEAR SINGING, AND THAT IS YOUR TITHE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN FAVOR? THANK YOU. THERE IT GOES. GOOD AFTERNOON, COMMISSIONERS. MY NAME IS ALEXIS MARTINEZ. MY ADDRESS IS 2151 HILLBURN DRIVE, 7 5 2 2 7. AND I AM THE OWNER OF SWEET BAR. I AM A DALLAS NATIVE IN A WW SAMUEL HIGH SCHOOL ALUMNI CLASS OF 2014. I ALSO LIVED IN DEEP EL FOR TWO YEARS, SO I KNOW THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND I UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT DEEP ELLUM IS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. I WANNA UNDERSTAND, I WANT OUR BUSINESS TO BE POSITIVE AND RESPONSIBLE PART OF HIS FUTURE. AS A FIRST TIME BUSINESS OPERATOR, I RECOGNIZE THAT WE EXPERIENCED SOME GROWING PAINS. THERE WERE ALSO SOME MISUNDERSTANDINGS BETWEEN US AND THE DEEP BELLING FOUNDATION, BUT THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE HAVE LISTENED CAREFULLY TO THE CONCERNS THAT WERE BROUGHT UP TO OUR ATTENTION. WHEN CONCERNS WERE IDENTIFIED, WE TOOK THEM SERIOUSLY, TOOK STEPS TO ADDRESS 'EM, AND WE HOLD OURSELVES ACCOUNTABLE FOR THE ACT FOR OUR ACTIONS SERIOUSLY. AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT ACCOUNTABILITY HAS TO BE DEMONSTRATED THROUGH HOW WE OPERATE MOVING FORWARD. WE HAVE STRAINING OUR SECURITY PROCEDURES, IMPROVED OUR OPERATING POLICIES, ESTABLISH CLEAR EXPECTATIONS FROM OUR STAFF, AND PLACE A GREATER EMPHASIS ON ACCOUNTABILITY FROM MANAGEMENT, WE WILL HIRE AT LEAST ONE OFF-DUTY OFFICER WHO WILL PROVIDE AN ADDITIONAL LEVEL OF PROFESSIONAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PRESENCE, VISIBILITY, DETERRENCE, AND SUPPORT FOR OUR SECURITY TEAM. THAT ADDED PRESENCE WILL HELP US IDENTIFY ISSUES EARLY, ASSIST WITH DE ESCALATION WHEN NECESSARY, AND PROVIDE ANOTHER LAYER OF SAFETY FOR OUR PATRON STAFF AND THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT OPERATING IN DEEP PLUM COMES WITH, WITH A RESPONSIBILITY NOT ONLY TO OUR CUSTOMERS, BUT TO OUR NEIGHBORS AND OTHER BUSINESSES. THE DP FOUNDATION, THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE WANNA BUILD A STRONG, RESPONSIBLE BUSINESS AND EARN THE COMMUNITY'S TRUST AND REMAIN IN DEEP EL FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT TRUST IS NOT SOMETHING WE COULD SIMPLY ASK FOR. WE HAVE TO DEMONSTRATE THROUGH OUR ACTIONS AND THROUGH THE WAY WE OPERATE EVERY DAY, BEING WE, WE HAVE LISTENED, WE HAVE MADE CHANGES, WE HAVE, ARE COMMITTED TO CONTINUING TO IMPROVE. BUT RESPECTFULLY ASK THE COMMISSION, THE, THE, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO DEMONSTRATE THE COMMITMENT FOR AND SUPPORT AND FOR YOUR SUPPORT OF OUR SUP. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, [03:15:01] ANYONE ELSE IN FAVOR? ONE MORE. THANK YOU. HELLO, MY NAME IS TIM FRAS AND I'M THE LANDLORD FOR SWEET BAR. UH, I LIVE IN DALLAS, 69 30 ELM RIDGE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 4. OH. FIRST I WANT TO SAY I APPRECIATE YOU GUYS AND YOUR SERVICE TO THE CITY. I THINK YOU SHOULD BE ACKNOWLEDGED FOR THAT. I'VE BEEN HERE ALL DAY LONG AND IT SEEMS LIKE EVERYBODY'S PAID ATTENTION TO EVERY CASE. SO PROPS TO YOU GUYS. AND LIKE I SAID, I I FROM A DALLAS PERSON, I APPRECIATE IT. UH, MY HISTORY IS, I LIVED IN DEEP EL WHEN THERE WAS 500 PEOPLE THERE BEFORE ADAM HATS, BEFORE WESTDALE. UH, I HAD A BUSINESS THERE AT ZUNI PIZZA FOR OVER 20 YEARS. AND I'VE BEEN A PROPERTY OWNER FOR OVER 20 YEARS. I'VE INVESTED A LOT OF MY LIFE IN DEEP ELM. I CARE ABOUT DEEP ELM. I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR DEEP EL. UM, I'VE, PREVIOUS TENANT, I'D GET A PHONE CALL. THERE WERE ISSUES I HAD TO THREATEN TO EVICT THEM IF THEY DIDN'T FIX IT WITH THE NEIGHBORS. SO I WAS A LITTLE BIT IN SHOCK WHEN THE DEPOT ISLAND FOUNDATION AND SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT OWNED A LOT OF PROPERTY YEAR WERE OPPOSED TO THEM. AND I SAID, WHAT'S GOING ON? THEY SENT ME A LIST, I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE IT, OF LIKE 30 INCIDENTS OF LIKE, UH, MR. S SAID TWO TRUCKS PARKED IN THE STREET. UH, SOMEONE CAME INTO THEIR CLUB AND SELLING DRUGS AND THEY CALLED THE POLICE. IT SEEMED LIKE THAT'S A GOOD THING. UH, THEY, THEY MAY HAD A BAD INCIDENT IN JANUARY. THEY LEARNED FROM IT. THEY LET SOME DRUNK PEOPLE IN AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN ON THEIR LIST IS THERE WAS A CONFRONTATION OUTSIDE. THEY DIDN'T LET DRUNK PEOPLE IN. I'M LIKE, I, I WAS LOOKING AT THE LIST GOING, WHICH WAY DO YOU WANT IT? LET 'EM IN OR DON'T LET 'EM IN. I WAS VERY CONFUSED ABOUT THAT. AND THOSE, I JUST FELT LIKE SOMETHING, THERE'S SOME PEOPLE THAT DON'T WANT 'EM THERE, AND I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE REASON IS. I'VE TRIED TO COMMUNICATE WITH THEM MYSELF. WE HAVE A DISAGREEMENT. I LIKE STEPHANIE. I THINK SHE DOES A GREAT JOB. DEEP EL FOUNDATION. I WAS ONE OF THE ORIGINAL FOUNDERS OF THE DEEP EL ASSOCIATION WITH BARRY NINO AND JEFF YARBOROUGH BACK IN THE DAY. I THINK WE FOUNDED IT TWICE. AND NOW STEPHANIE'S DONE A GREAT JOB. I RESPECT HER, BUT I HAVE A DISAGREEMENT WITH HER. AND I LOOKED THROUGH THE THINGS WHERE SHE SAID, OH, THERE'S THREE TIMES AS MANY INCIDENTS. AND I LOOKED THROUGH THE INCIDENTS AND IT'S LIKE, WELL, IF YOU'RE GONNA COUNT SEMI-TRUCKS AND STOLEN CARS AND, AND STOPPING PEOPLE FROM COMING IN DRUNK AND THEN BLAMING THEM FOR WHEN THEY DID LET 'EM IN DRUNK, I, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO. AND I THINK, UH, I'VE TALKED TO COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, SHE HAD A LOT OF ISSUES AND EVERY TIME SHE BROUGHT UP AN ISSUE, THEY ADDRESS IT AND THEY'RE WILLING TO HIRE A ALL TIME A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER. AND I THINK THAT SAYS A LOT. AND EVERY TIME I'VE DEALT WITH THEM, THEY'VE DONE WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GONNA DO. WE HAD INSURANCE. HEY, WE NEED TREE CLIN TRIMMED. IT WAS DONE THE NEXT DAY. UM, THEY'VE BEEN VERY GOOD TENANTS. I I THINK THEY'VE DONE A GOOD, THEY'VE TRIPLED THE SALES OF THE PREVIOUS TENANT, SO THEY, THEY SEEM TO DO IT. UM, AND I WAS JUST, LIKE I SAID, I WAS SHOCKED TO SEE THE 30 THINGS. AND WHEN I ACTUALLY READ THROUGH 'EM, LIKE I WAS, I GOT THE THING, I WAS LIKE, OH, VIC, THESE GUYS, THESE GUYS ARE HORRIBLE. AND THEN I STARTED READING THROUGH, I'M LIKE, WAIT A SECOND. AND I THINK YOU GUYS GOT A COPY OF IT. AND THE OTHER THING I'D LIKE TO POINT OUT IS ON THE ORIGINAL PICTURE, YOU SAW MY BUILDING FACES A PARKING LOT. I'M LIKE, THERE WAS A DPD INCIDENT REPORT. LIKE, OH, THERE WAS A, A SHOOTING. WELL, I WENT IN THERE, THEY PATTED ME DOWN 'CAUSE THEY DIDN'T KNOW WHO I WAS. SO I KNOW THEY PAT DOWN. SO, AND THAT STARTED REASON THE PREMISES IS JULY ALLEY AT THE TREES PARKING LOT HOUSE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. APPRECIATE YOU. THANK YOU ALL. THAT'S IT FOR, UM, SPEAKERS IN FAVOR. CAN WE HAVE SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION NOW? THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS STEPHANIE KELLER BERG AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE DEBELL FOUNDATION. I AM HERE TODAY TO RESPECTFULLY RECOMMEND DENIAL OF THE SUP APPLICATION FOR SUITE. I WANNA BEGIN WITH OUR PROCESS BECAUSE DEAF DOES NOT MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON SUVS. LIGHTLY DEAF PROVIDES CPC LETTERS OF RECOMMENDATION ON EVERY SUP IN DEBELL. THIS IS THE SECOND TIME THAT DEAF HAS RECOMMENDED AN SUP NOT BE GRANTED IN THE PAST DECADE. AND THE FIRST TIME DURING MY TENURE, WHICH BEGAN IN 2018, WE HAVE A DEDICATED SUP TASK FORCE AND ESTABLISHED CRITERIA FOR REVIEWING APPLICATIONS. THAT ROBUST PROCESS CONSIDERS INPUT FROM THE BUSINESS APPLICANT AND PROPERTY OWNER. THE OPERATOR'S TRACK RECORD SECURITY AND OPERATING PRACTICES, POLICE CITATIONS AND ARRESTS, DISTURBANCES AND VIOLENT CRIME ASSOCIATED WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT, AS WELL AS FEEDBACK FROM DPD, OUR OWN DEEP LM SAFE SECURITY, AND OFF-DUTY OFFICER TEAMS AND NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES AND PROPERTY OWNERS. OUR SUP TASK FORCE IS COMPRISED OF OTHER DEEP LM NIGHTLIFE ESTABLISHMENTS AND PROPERTY OWNERS. THE TASK FORCE MAKES A RECOMMENDATION TO OUR FULL BOARD, WHICH THEN SEPARATELY CONSIDERS AND VOTES ON DEFS POSITION. IN THIS CASE, THE CA THE FINDINGS ARE CONCERNING. DPD IDENTIFIED THREE ABATE CRIMINAL OFFENSES ASSOCIATED WITH THIS ESTABLISHMENT DURING THE PAST YEAR, INCLUDING DISCHARGE OF A FIREARM AND TWO DISORDERLY CONDUCT OFFENSES SEPARATELY, DEATH REVIEWED OUR OWN OFF-DUTY POLICE ACTIVITY. AND DURING THE PERIOD ANALYZED AN INCIDENT REQUIRING ACTION BY OFF-DUTY POLICE WAS APPROXIMATELY THREE TO FIVE TIMES MORE LIKELY TO OCCUR AT OR [03:20:01] DIRECTLY OUTSIDE SUITE, THEN OUTSIDE OTHER NIGHTLIFE ESTABLISHMENTS IN DEBELL, NOT INCLUDING THINGS TO DO WITH PARKING, ET CETERA. WE GIVE YOU THE FULL LIST FOR TRANSPARENCY THAT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THIS COUNT. THIS EQUATES TO APPROXIMATELY 20 INSTANCES SINCE THE BUSINESS CHANGED OWNERSHIP IN JULY OR AUGUST OF LAST YEAR. IMPORTANTLY IN COMPARATIVELY, THERE WERE APPROXIMATELY ONE OR TWO INCIDENTS REQUIRING POLICE INTERVENTION RECORDED, IF ANY ASSOCIATED WITH THE BUSINESS IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT, AS WELL AS TWO AND THREE DOORS DOWN FROM SUITE. THIS INCLUDES OTHER BARS, MUSIC VENUES, AND LATE NIGHT EATERIES. THE VAST MAJORITY OF DEBELL AND BUSINESSES AVERAGE BETWEEN ZERO AND 0.15 INCIDENTS PER WEEK. SUITE AVERAGE MORE THAN 0.45. OUR REPORTS DOCUMENT REPEATED FIGHTS AND DISTURBANCES, CONFRONTATIONS INVOLVING PATRONS AND SECURITY. DISORDERLY CONDUCT ARRESTS, SHOTS FIRED IN RECURRING POST-CLOSING CROWD MANAGEMENT CONCERNS. WE HAVE MET WITH SUITE MANAGEMENT MULTIPLE TIMES, INCLUDING WITH OUR SUP TASK FORCE. AND THE CONCERNS WERE NOT NEW. LAST YEAR, DEATH AND DPD LEADERSHIP MET WITH SUITE OWNERS AND MANAGERS TO DISCUSS PATTERNS OF BEHAVIOR AFFECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD SAFELY, INCLUDING ILLEGAL ACTIVITY AND OFFERED BOTH ASSISTANCE AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR IMPROVEMENT. DESKTOP PRIORITY IS SAFETY AND WE INVEST SIGNIFICANT RESOURCES IN MULTI-LAYERED 24 7 PUBLIC SAFETY PROGRAM FOR DEBELL, INCLUDING 24 7. SECURITY DISPATCH CAMERA, HOMELESS OUTREACH, YOUTH INTERVENTION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. VIBRANT NIGHTLIFE IS FUNDAMENTAL TO DEEP EL AND ITS SUCCESS IS FUNDAMENTAL TO OUR MISSION. SUSTAINING SUCCESSFUL ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS REQUIRES ACCOUNTABILITY. WHEN AN INDIVIDUAL ESTABLISHMENT DISPROPORTIONATELY CONTRIBUTES TO DISORDER VIOLENCE AND DEMANDS ON PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES, IT NOT ONLY MEANS PEOPLE GET HURT IN A VERY REAL WAY, IT DAMPENS THE VIBRANCY OF OUR DISTRICT, HARMS THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND IS NOT FAIR TO NEIGHBORING ESTABLISHMENTS. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT MATTER AND WE APPRECIATE YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION OF THIS RECOMMENDATION TODAY. THANK YOU. HELLO, CHAIR AND COMMISSIONERS, JOHN HETZEL, UH, 26 22 COMMERCE STREET. UH, I'M THE MANAGING PARTNER OF MADISON PARTNERS, A LARGE LONG-TERM PROPERTY OWNER IN DEEP LM AS WELL AS THE VOLUNTEER PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION. AND I TOO AM ASKING YOU TO DENY THIS PERMIT. YOU ALL SEEN A LOT OF DEEP LMS COME ACROSS THE HORSESHOE HERE. AS MORE AND MORE BUSINESSES ARE GETTING INTO COMPLIANCE AS THEY SHOULD HAVE BEEN YEARS AGO, YOU'VE ALSO SEEN US SUPPORT BASICALLY ALL OF THEM, A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT NIGHTLIFE BUSINESSES. AND WE BELIEVE THIS ONE'S DIFFERENT. AND HERE'S WHAT THE RECORD SHOWS ABOUT SWEET BAR. AT 26 50 ELM OWNERSHIP CHANGED IN THE SUMMER OF 2025. PRIOR TO AUGUST OF THAT YEAR, WE SAW FEW PROBLEMS FROM THE BUSINESS EXCEPT SOME NEIGHBORHOOD NOISE COMPLAINTS AND OTHER QUALITY OF LIFE ISSUES FROM THE MONTH THESE NEW OWNERS TOOK OVER. WE STARTED SEEING AND EXPERIENCING ISSUES NEARLY EVERY WEEK, WHICH RAMPED UP SIGNIFICANTLY THEIR LAST SIX WEEKS OPEN BEFORE SHUTTING DOWN TO GET THEIR SUVS. MO STEPHANIE REFERENCED MOST OF THEIR NEIGHBORS ON THAT BLOCK. SAME HOURS, SAME CROWD, HAVE CLOSE TO NO INCIDENTS. AND LET'S TALK ABOUT THE REAL INCIDENTS WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. AND I'LL GIVE YOU TWO IN PARTICULAR. AS AN EXAMPLE ON THOSE OF NOVEMBER 17TH, 2025, A FIGHT STARTS INSIDE THEIR SECURITY MACES, THE GROUP ONTO THE SIDEWALK. THOSE MEN GO TO A CAR OFF JULY ALLEY AND FIRE 15 TO 20 ROUNDS OVER THAT LOT IN DOWN ELM STREETS. ON JANUARY 15TH, 2026, A FIGHT SPILLS OUT A TROPHY INTO THE STREET, ACROSS THE STREET FROM SUITE BAR OFFICERS BREAK IT UP. THAT SAME GROUP THEN WALKS IN THE SUITE BAR ADMITTED BY SECURITY WHO HAD JUST WATCHED THEM GET INTO A FIGHT IN FRONT OF THE BUSINESS. THAT'S WHAT REALLY HAPPENED THAT DAY. MINUTES LATER, THE BAR CALLS FOR HELP WITH THE DISTURBANCE. THEY LEFT IN TAKING UP THE DEEP O FOUNDATION'S, PUBLIC SAFETY RESOURCES. THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN A JUDGMENT CALL BY THEIR OWN SECURITY STAFF. AND A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER HAD TO EXPLAIN TO THEIR SECURITY WHY THAT WAS A PROBLEM. HAVING AN OFF-DUTY SECURITY, UH, OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICER CANNOT BE REQUIRED BY AN SUP. AND WE STILL HAVE ISSUES WITH NIGHTCLUBS, WITH OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICERS. THAT IS NOT A CURE-ALL PROPOSAL. IT'S NOT A STAFFING SHORTAGE. IT'S NOT A BAD NIGHT. THIS IS AN OPERATOR WHO DOES NOT UNDERSTAND THE JOB FOUR SEPARATE TIMES AS VENUE'S OWN SECURITY. WERE NOT STOPPING THE VIOLENCE. THEY WERE IN IT, INCLUDING FIGHTING A PATRON IN THE MIDDLE OF ELM STREET IN JUNE. AND UNDER SCRUTINY, IT GOT WORSE, NOT BETTER. IN THE FINAL SIX WEEKS, THE INCIDENT RATE TRIPLED. A SPECIFIC USE PERMIT ASKED WHETHER AN OPERATOR CAN RUN THIS USE AT THESE HOURS WITHOUT PUTTING THE PUBLIC AT RISK BASED ON OUR LIVED EXPERIENCE THAT THAT IS NOT THE CASE. PLEASE RESPECT THE RECORD AND DENY. THANK YOU. SORRY. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER SPEAKERS IN OPPOSITION? HEARING NONE? CAN WE GET A MOTION? OH, I BELIEVE THEY GET A REBUTTAL, RIGHT? REBUTTAL TO TO, AND YOU GET TWO MINUTES TO REBUTTAL. THANK YOU. I DON'T TO TALK FAST. JUST REAL QUICKLY. THIS LOCATION'S THE BUSIEST PART OF ELM [03:25:01] STREET. UH, STEPHANIE SAID IN DECADES, THEY HAVEN'T DONE SUP LICENSE. WELL, THIS IS A NEW THING. THEY HAVEN'T BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES. THE SUP LICENSE HAS BEEN EXPIRED FOR YEARS. MOST PEOPLES HAVE. SO IT'S A WHOLE NEW THING, HOW TO CONTROL PEOPLE. SO IT'S JUST NOT STRAIGHTFORWARDNESS, IT'S JUST LIKE THE 30 INCIDENT REPORTS. UNLESS PROFESSOR, THE THE GUN DISCHARGE, THEY PAT DOWN THEIR CUSTOMERS AND THEN THEY'RE BLAMING THE CUSTOMERS FOR DISCHARGE ACROSS THE STREET. AND THEY LIST THE 3D PD INCIDENTS. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE THAT YOU HAVE, THE COPY ON THE PREMISES ARE NOT THERE. THEY'RE A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY AT A PLAYGROUND IN JULY ALLEY. IT'S JUST NOT REASONABLE. IF YOU LOOK AT IT CLOSELY, IT'S NOT STRAIGHTFORWARD. IT'S NOT, THERE'S NO INTEGRITY IN SAYING 10 YEARS, NO SUVS. YOU GUYS ALL KNOW THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT DONE. IT'S THE BUSIEST PART OF ELM STREET. EVERY TIME THERE'S AN INCIDENT ACROSS THE STREET, YOU LOOK UP, YOU SEE THAT ADDRESS AND THAT'S WHAT'S WRITTEN DOWN. UH, I THINK THEY DESERVE IT. THEY'RE WILLING TO, THEY'VE SHOWN THEY'RE WILLING TO HIRE POLICE. IF, IF THAT'S NOT GOOD ENOUGH. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO SAY. I JUST, I THINK THEY'RE GOOD TENANTS. I THINK THEY'RE TRYING TO DO IT. UH, THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO SAY, REALLY. AND, UH, I HOPE YOU GUYS, I THINK THEY DESERVE A THREE YEAR SUPI GUESS. AND IT'S A ONE YEAR SUP IF, IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH, IT'S EASY TO FIX. AND I TOLD JOHN AND I TOLD THEM, IF THEY DON'T FOLLOW THROUGH IN SIX MONTHS, THREE MONTHS, IF THERE'S A PROBLEM, I'LL EVICT THEM. SO YOU HAVE MY WORD ON THAT. IF THERE'S STILL A PROBLEM AND THEY CAN SHOW ME THERE'S A PROBLEM, I'LL HANDLE IT MYSELF. BECAUSE LIKE I SAID, I WANT WHAT'S BEST FOR DEPOT. SO I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, SIR. UH, LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. COMMISSIONER HAMMOND. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. AND I HAVE COMMENTS. UM, AND IF I HAVE A SECOND IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 3 5, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND, UH, NOT FOLLOW STAFF, STAFF RECOMMENDATION, BUT DENY THE REQUEST WITHOUT PREJUDICE. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER KINGSTON FOR THE SECOND COMMENT. THANK YOU. UM, AS THE COMMISSION KNOWS, WE HAVE HELD THIS CASE FOR A FEW TIMES. I HAVE BEEN IN TOUCH WITH BOTH THE APPLICANT TEAM, UM, STAKEHOLDERS. I'VE CIRCULATED, UM, INFORMATION THAT WAS PROVIDED TO ME SO THAT THE COMMISSION CAN SEE THE FULL INFORMATION THAT'S PROVIDED, INCLUDING FROM OTHER SURROUNDING STAKEHOLDERS EXPRESSING CONCERN ABOUT THE OPERATIONS. THIS IS AN SUP THAT EXPIRED A SUBSTANTIAL PERIOD AGO. UM, IT IS A NEW OPERATOR AND THEY WERE OPERATING A BUSINESS THAT THEY TOOK OVER WITHOUT AN SUPI ACKNOWLEDGE THAT THEY DISCOVERED THAT TOOK ACTION, FILED FOR THE REQUEST. BUT AS I HAVE EVALUATED THIS AND RECEIVED INFORMATION, IT HAS SEEMED THAT IT, IT IS A REACTIVE INSTEAD OF A PROACTIVE APPROACH. AND MY SUBSTANTIAL CONCERN IS BASED ON OUR SUP CRITERIA THAT WE ARE GIVEN TO, IS TO ENSURE THAT BUSINESSES DO NOT NEGATIVELY IMPACT IN CONSIDERING AT SUP, THAT THERE IS NOT AN IMPACT TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY. I AM GRATEFUL FOR THE, UM, MEASURES THAT THEY HAVE PROPOSED. UM, I THINK THEY HAVE TRIED AND HAVE BEGUN TO UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS. HOWEVER, BASED ON THE COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT I HAVE RECEIVED, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE NEEDS TO BE ADDITIONAL TRAINING, ADDITIONAL, UM, MEASURES ON THEIR PART, UM, THAT I AM CONCERNED WILL TAKE A LONGER AND CONTINUE THIS PATTERN THAT HAS BEEN EVIDENT. I SPECIFICALLY ASKED, UM, FOR STAFF TO REACH OUT TO DPD, UM, TO GET THEIR INCIDENT REPORTS, TO GET THEIR INFORMATION SO THAT I COULD SEE THAT DIRECTLY. UM, THERE'S A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS FROM PUBLIC INTOXICATION TO THE GUN DISCHARGE, UM, THAT ARE SIGNIFICANT. AND I RECOGNIZE AND UNDERSTAND NOT EVERY INCIDENT IS TIED TO AN ADDRESS THAT IT IS CALLED INTO, BUT THERE DOES SEEM TO BE A PATTERN. AND BASED ON THE BROADER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK I HAVE RECEIVED, THAT IS THE REASON WHY I'M RECOMMENDING A DENIAL, BUT A DENIAL WITHOUT PREJUDICE. AND IF THEY ARE ABLE TO DEMONSTRATE, UM, YOU KNOW, WITH CONTINUED IMPROVEMENT, I DO THINK THAT THIS MAY BE SOMETHING LONG TERM. UM, IT IS AN ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT AND I THINK THERE IS A VESTED INTEREST IN ENSURING THAT REMAINS THAT VALUABLE AS ASSET ASSET TO OUR CITY. AND I HOPE MY COMMISSIONERS WILL SUPPORT THE MOTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU [03:30:01] COMMISSIONER KINGSTON. I SUPPORTED THE MOTION. UM, YOU KNOW, I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING WITH ORGANIZATIONS LIKE THE DEEP FOUNDATION, INCLUDING THE DEEP ELLUM FOUNDATION. AND IN, IN MY EXPERIENCE, WHEN THEY TAKE SUCH GREAT STEPS AS THEY COME DOWN HERE AND OPPOSE AN OPERATOR LIKE THIS, IT'S TELLING, IT'S DIFFICULT FOR PEOPLE LIKE US TO KNOW EXACTLY WHAT AN OPERATOR'S DOING. BUT IN A PLACE LIKE DEEP BEUM OR A PLACE LIKE GREENVILLE OR ONE OF THE OTHER ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS WE HAVE THE HAVE OTHER OPERATORS KNOW WHO THE OPERATORS THAT ARE PROBLEMS ARE NO, NO NIGHTCLUB OR ESTABLISHED. LIKE, LIKE, THIS IS GONNA BE PERFECT. THEY'RE ALL GONNA HAVE A PROBLEM NOW AND AGAIN. BUT WHEN YOU'RE THE ONE THAT HAS A PROBLEM EVERY WEEKEND AND YOU'RE THE ONE THAT DOESN'T MAKE THE RIGHT DECISIONS EVERY WEEKEND OR EVERY OTHER WEEKEND, YOU ARE CAUSING NOT JUST A PROBLEM FOR YOURSELF. YOU'RE PROB CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THE OTHER OPERATORS. YOU'RE CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THE RESIDENTS AND YOU'RE CAUSING A PROBLEM FOR THE CITY AT LARGE. AND IF DEEP ELEMENT'S GONNA IMPROVE, WE HAVE GOT TO BE WILLING TO SAY TO THESE OPERATORS THAT ARE SKIRTING THE RULES AND ARE PLAYING FAST AND LOOSE, THAT WE ARE GONNA HAVE SOME LIMITS. OTHERWISE, WE'RE NEVER GONNA SEE AN IMPROVEMENT AT DEBELL. AND, AND THAT'S JUST HOW IT IS. AND, AND WE HAD TO MAKE THOSE TOUGH CHOICES ON GREENVILLE AND WE HAVE TO BE DILIGENT IN MAKING THOSE TOUGH CHOICES. AND I KNOW IT'S NOT AN EASY CHOICE TO SAY THAT TO A BUSINESS, BUT I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT. AND I THINK, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU KNOW THESE OTHER BUSINESSES DOWN THERE, THEY'LL TELL YOU WHO THE BAD OPERATORS ARE. AND SWEET BAR IS ONE OF THE ONES THAT THEY TALK ABOUT. I'VE HEARD IT ON THE STREET. SO I MEAN, I, I UNDERSTAND THIS IS A DIFFICULT DECISION FOR COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, BUT I SUPPORT HER IN IT. 'CAUSE I THINK WHEN YOU REPRESENT A DISTRICT AND YOU'RE TALKING TO THE PEOPLE THAT WORK THERE AND EARN A LIVING THERE, IT'S NOT JUST THIS BAR. IT'S ALL THE OTHER ESTABLISHMENTS AND ALL THE OTHER PEOPLE THAT WORK IN THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS THAT ARE ALSO TRYING TO SAFELY EARN A LIVING THERE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER SERRATO. UM, UM, JUST A COUPLE QUESTIONS. FORGIVE MY IGNORANCE. SO IF THEY ARE DENIED THEIR SUP, THEY WILL NOT BE ABLE TO OPERATE CORRECTLY. THAT IS CORRECT. UM, AND SO I I I DEFINITELY TRUST, UM, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND HER JUDGMENT. UM, I I JUST HATE TO SEE LIKE A LOCAL DALLAS NATIVE LOSE THEIR BUSINESS, UM, IN WHAT THEY CALL, YOU KNOW, GROWING PAINS. LIKE THIS IS THEIR FIRST TIME OPERATING THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND THEY'RE TRYING TO NAVIGATE AND UNDERSTAND THAT AND MAYBE ARE MAKING MORE MISTAKES ALONG THE WAY AND, UM, NOT MAKING THE RIGHT CALLS. AND I KNOW IT'S, IT'S OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO HELP, UM, MITIGATE THAT. BUT I'M JUST, I'M STRUGGLING WITH LIKE A FIRST TIME BUSINESS OWNER, LIKE, UM, NOT BEING GIVEN THE, THE, THE SPACE AND THE CHA AND MAYBE THEY HAVE BEEN ALREADY, AGAIN, I, I DO TRUST, UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S, UH, JUDGMENT. UM, BUT I'M STRUGGLING WITH THAT PIECE A LITTLE BIT I THINK, UM, HERE. SO, UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THEIR SUP WAS. THIS IS THEIR FIRST TIME APPLYING FOR AN SUP BECAUSE THEY TOOK OVER THE BUSINESS WITH THE SUP ALREADY EXPIRED. CORRECT. IS THAT THE CASE? THAT IS MY UNDERSTANDING. THERE. THERE WAS AN SAP ON THE SITE ABOUT FIVE THAT WAS APPROVED ABOUT FIVE YEARS AGO. THEY LET THAT ONE LAPSE. UM, WE DON'T KNOW IF OR THEY CAN ANSWER IF IT'S THE SAME OR DIFFERENT OPERATOR, BUT IT'S THE SAME SITE. AND I, I WORKED THAT CASE. I UNDERSTOOD IT WAS THE SAME BUSINESS NAME. YEAH. UM, YEAH. AND I, I UNDERSTAND THAT LIKE THERE ARE ISSUES IN DEEP EL AND IT'S SOMETIMES IT'S HARD TO PINPOINT WHERE THINGS ARE COMING FROM, BUT IF PEOPLE ARE SAYING A LOT OF THE TIME IT'S COMING FROM SWEET BAR. SO I GUESS I'M JUST TOGGLING BACK AND FORTH BETWEEN THOSE TWO THOUGHTS. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER CO. UH, COX? YES. YEAH, I WAS TRYING TO GET CLARIFICATION AS TO, I BELIEVE THERE WAS MENTION ABOUT A REQUEST FOR ONE YEAR. WHAT IS, WHAT IS STAFF? WHAT IS THE DURATION ON THIS? I DIDN'T SEE IT LISTED EITHER WAY ON THE LOCATION. I THINK STAFFS WAS PERMANENT. UM, BUT I THINK THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THAT THEY WOULD TAKE ONE YEAR. I'M SORRY. SO STAFF RECOMMENDED PERMANENT UHHUH . AND SO WHO'S RECOMMENDING ONE YEAR? NO ONE RECOMMENDED ONE YEAR. I THINK THEY WOULD SAY THEY WOULD BE APPLICABLE TO ONE YEAR. OKAY. FAIR ENOUGH. THANK YOU. UH, COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, UH, I HAVE A QUESTION AS FAR AS CLARIFICATION. UH, WHEN DID THE NEW OPERATORS TRANSITION TO SUITE? [03:35:02] THEY PURCHASED THE BUSINESS I BELIEVE IN THE END OF JULY AND ACTUALLY TOOK OVER RUNNING IT IN NOVEMBER OF 2025. SO THOSE TWO FIRST INCIDENTS, THEY, AND THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED SINCE JUNE TRYING TO GET THE SEP WHERE THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS INCIDENTS SINCE THEN AT THE SAME ADDRESS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED. UM, BUT YEAH, THEY'VE, THEY'VE, THEY'VE ONLY OPERATED IT FROM, THEY TOOK OVER OPERATIONS IN NOVEMBER OF 2025 AS THEY LET THE PREVIOUS TENANT TEACH 'EM HOW TO RUN THEIR BUSINESS. AND THEY BOUGHT THE BUSINESS IN JULY OF 2025. SO THEY'VE ONLY RAN IT FROM NOVEMBER TO WHEN THEY CLOSED, HAVE BEEN CLOSED IN JUNE. SO THEY CLOSED IN JUNE OF 2026. YES. TO GET THE SEP AND SINCE THEN THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS INCIDENTS AT THAT ADDRESS SINCE THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED. 'CAUSE IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE BLOCK. AND WHAT, WHAT IS THE, WHAT ARE THE OPERATORS ASKED TO DO? LIKE WHAT ARE, MAYBE THAT'S A BETTER QUESTION FOR COMMISSIONER HAMILTON. IT'S WHAT MECHANISM COULD THEY HAVE PUT INTO PLACE THAT WOULD SATISFY THE COMMUNITY? 'CAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE WHEN THESE ARE, THE PATRONS ARE COMING IN AND ACTING CRAZY, IS IT SECURITY OR SOME KIND OF WAY THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE DIFFERENT CLIENTELE? LIKE WHAT WOULD EVER MAKE THIS WORK? UH, I MET WITH COMMISSIONER HAMPTON AND SHE HAD SOME CONCERNS AND SINCE THEN THEY'VE WRITTEN UP SEVERAL PLANS OF HOW TO DEAL WITH IT MORE, UH, UPGRADE TO SECURITY. UH, A LOT OF THESE INCIDENTS HAVE HAPPENED OUTSIDE AFTER 2:00 AM IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET IN DEEP ELM WITH THEM. THAT'S THE BUS. I MEAN, IT'S THE MIDDLE OF THE, OF ELM STREET. SO WHEN YOU'RE WALKING THIS WAY OR THIS WAY AND THE PARKING LOT'S, RIGHT THERE IS, LIKE I SAID, THERE'S BEEN NUMEROUS INCIDENTS FROM MY UNDERSTANDING OVER 15 SINCE THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED AT THAT VICINITY. 'CAUSE IT'S JUST MR TWO IN THE MORNING. SO I THINK THAT I, I THINK TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, THAT EVERY TIME I'VE SPOKEN WITH MS. HAMPTON, WE HAVE SENT THEM, THEY HAVE SENT AND WORKED ON AN ACTION PLAN. I THINK THAT WAS INCLUDED. CORRECT. AND MAYBE MR. ELLIS CAN ANSWER THAT BETTER THAN ME. 'CAUSE HE'S WAS PART IN PUTTING ALL THE ACTION PLANS TOGETHER. ONCE WE MET WITH THE FOUNDATION AS WELL AS COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE WERE COMPLYING WITH THE CRITERIA THAT THE FOUNDATION HAS. THEY HAVE STIPULATIONS WITHIN THEIR, THEIR, UH, REGULATIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY REQUIRE FOR AN SUP UNDERNEATH THEIR, UH, GUIDANCE PLANNER. SO THEREFORE, WE PUT TOGETHER A DETAILED ACTION PLAN THAT OUR CLIENTS WILL ADHERE TO. THEY LOOKED OVER IT AND THEY SAID, WE CAN COMPLY WITH THIS, MAKE SURE THAT THEIR MEASURABLE GOALS, AND THEREFORE WE ARE IMPLEMENTING THIS AS WELL AS HIRING AN ADDITIONAL OFF-DUTY POLICE OFFICER AT THE GATE SO THEY CAN, UM, ADDRESS TO ADDRESS ANY CIVIL UNREST. THEY HAVE ACT, UM, LEVEL THREE SECURITY GUARDS ON, IN, ON, IN, IN THE ESTABLISHMENT TODAY. SO THEREFORE, AS YOU'RE AWARE, SECURITY GUARDS CANNOT ARREST OR DO ANYTHING. THEY'RE, THEY'RE LIMITED IN TERMS OF WHAT THEIR, THEIR ACTIONS ARE. SO WHENEVER AN EVENT DID OCCUR, DID OCCUR INSIDE OR IMMEDIATELY OUTSIDE THEIR ESTABLISHMENT, THEY MADE THE APPROPRIATE, UH, MEASURES AND DOWN, UH, THE NECESSARY, UH, OR APPROPRIATE, UH, LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS OR PEOPLE WHO ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ARREST OR, OR, OR DEALING WITH THE SITUATION. THANK YOU, MS. DALLAS. MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU. AND, UH, YES. UM, SORRY, I, I HAD A QUESTION FOR, UM, OH, I THINK COMMISSIONER HAMPTON? YES. COMMISSIONER HAMPTON I THINK WANTS TO REPLY AND THEN, UH, WHEELER AND THEN SERATO ROUND TWO. I HAVEN'T DONE ROUND ONE. UH, YEAH. UH, I YOU ROUND ONE? YES MA'AM. YOU'LL BE AFTER MS. HAMPTON. UH, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND I DON'T KNOW IF MR. ELLIS WANTS TO TAKE THIS OR ANOTHER MEMBER OF THE TEAM, BUT IS IT CORRECT THAT, UM, MR. ALDO WAS PART OF THE OPERATIONS WITH THE PRIOR OWNER? OR MR. ALDO IS THERE, HE MAY WANNA SPEAK TO THAT DIRECTLY. UH, HE'S APPROACHING THE STATE NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YEAH. MR. RO YEAH, I WAS THERE, BUT I WAS ONLY THERE IN THE CAPACITY OF A BARTENDER AND THAT'S IT. I WASN'T IN MANAGEMENT, I WASN'T, UH, IN CHARGE OF ANY OPERATIONS OR ANYTHING. I JUST WORKED MY NIGHTS THAT THEY SCHEDULED ME AND THAT WAS IT. AND YOU'RE CURRENTLY THE MANAGER OF THE FACILITY? YES. OKAY. YES. AND SO YOU TOOK OVER WHEN THE NEW OWNERS PURCHASED THE BUSINESS? UM, JULY LAST YEAR, [03:40:01] FULL OPERATIONS, JULY, AUGUST, FULL OPERATIONS WERE TRANSFERRED OVER IN NOVEMBER. UM, I KNOW THE INCIDENTS REPORTS THAT CAME THROUGH US DIRECTLY FROM DPD AND THE TIME PERIOD OF THOSE THAT CAME THROUGH WITH US, UM, STOP IN JUNE OF 2026 BECAUSE THAT'S WHEN YOUR SUP, UM, WAS APPLIED FOR. AND YOU ALL CEASED OPERATIONS. UM, BUT THERE WERE A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS THAT WERE LISTED. YOU WERE THE GENERAL MANAGER AT THAT TIME, IS THAT CORRECT? THAT IS NOT CORRECT. I WAS, UH, I DIDN'T TAKE THE ROLE OF GENERAL MANAGER TILL LIKE FEBRUARY OF, OF, UH, 2026. OKAY. OKAY. BUT YOU WERE STILL, UM, WORKING WITH THE TEAM ON SITE? UH, I WAS AT AS A BARTENDER. YOU AS A BARTENDER, OKAY. YES. THANK YOU. UHHUH . AND THEN, UH, AS A BARTENDER, COULD YOU SAY, UM, WAS THERE, UM, ANY SECURITY PROTOCOLS THAT WERE IN PLACE AT THAT TIME? UH, CAN YOU SAY, CAN YOU REPEAT THE QUESTION? I, THERE WERE A NUMBER OF INCIDENTS DURING THAT INITIAL TIME BEFORE YOU HAD TAKEN OVER TO GENERAL MANAGER, AND I WAS ASKING IF THERE WERE ANY SECURITY PROTOCOLS OR OTHER, UM, YOU KNOW, TRAINING THAT YOU KNOW YOU RECEIVED OR THAT YOU HAD IN PLACE. UM, I KNOW THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT OF OUR DISCUSSIONS, UM, THAT YOU HAD CIRCULATED, UM, TO THE COMMISSION, UH, UH, A MORE ROBUST PLAN, SIMILAR TO, UM, THE DEEP EL, UM, SAFETY TEAM AND, AND HOW THEY EVALUATE. BUT I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND, WERE THOSE IN PLACE EITHER WHEN YOU WERE THERE AS A BARTENDER OR WHEN YOU TOOK OVER AS GENERAL MANAGER? NO, THOSE WERE ALREADY IN PLACE, YEAH. FOR THE SECURITY. AND WHAT WAS THAT SECURITY? UH, UH, IT WAS STILL THERE. WE HAD, UH, LIKE MAYBE ONE LEVEL THREE, BUT THEN AS I TOOK THE ROLE, I BROUGHT IN MORE LEVEL THREE COMMISSION AND NOT JUST, YOU KNOW, UH, SO WERE THOSE LICENSED, UM, PEACE OFFICERS? YES. WELL, NOT, NOT LICENSED PEACE OFFICERS. I MEAN, THEY'RE LEVEL THREE OR NOT, NOT PEACE OFFICERS. SORRY. THAT'S, UM, INCORRECT LANGUAGE. LICENSED SECURITY OFFICERS, THE LICENSED. AND SO YOU HAD A REGULAR CORRECT. SECURITY WHO WAS ON SITE, AND DID THEY GIVE RECOMMENDATIONS? UM, I THINK WE HEARD THAT EVEN AFTER, BETWEEN FEBRUARY AND, AND JUNE, UM, WHEN YOU ALL TOOK THE STEPS TO, UM, FILE FOR THE SUP AND TO TO BE BROUGHT INTO COMPLIANCE. UM, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT MEASURES AFTER I, I THINK WE'D HEARD ONE OF THE OTHER APPLICANTS, OR I KNOW YOU SHARED WITH ME WHEN WE MET, THAT YOU'D TAKEN ACTIONS WHEN YOU REALIZED THAT THERE WERE, YOU KNOW, I BELIEVE ONE OF THE SPECIFIC INCIDENTS THAT CAME THROUGH IS THAT, UM, ONE OF THE PATRONS WAS MACED BY THE SECURITY TEAM TAKE CARE OF, AND MR. ELLIS IS WELCOME TO TAKE THAT AS WELL IF IT'S EASIER. YES. COMMISSIONER, IN TERMS OF THE INCIDENCES EVER HAPPENED IN, IN SUITE AFTER WHATEVER INCIDENCE THAT INCURRED, UH, UH, MANAGEMENT BASICALLY TOOK THE ACTIONS AND THEY DEALT WITH IT IMMEDIATELY. AND THEN THEREFORE, IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT INVOLVED THEIR, THEIR SECURITY, UH, BASED OFF MY COMMUNICATIONS WITH, UM, MR. MARVIN ONE INCIDENT, I BELIEVE WHEN THERE WAS A FIGHT WITH THE SECURITY THAT THAT PERSON WAS SUCKER PUNCHED BOAT, SO TO SPEAK, THEREFORE THAT WAS ESCALATED. I BELIEVE THAT PERSON WAS NO LONGER AFTER THAT INCIDENT. THEY SPOKE WITH HIM AND THEY NO LONGER, UH, ARE EMPLOYED OR MANAGED IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA. SO WHATEVER INCIDENCES OCCURS THAT THEY FEEL IS, IS THEIR RESPONSIBILITY AND CALENDLY, THEY TAKE CARE OF HER IMMEDIATELY. SO THEREFORE THEY ARE RESPONDING APPROPRIATELY. AND AS THEY RESPOND, THEY BASICALLY DEBRIEF TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR TRAINING AND EVERYTHING IS APPROPRIATE. AND IF NOT, THEY MAKE STEPS TO IMPROVE THAT TRAINING OR FOR THEIR SECURITY AND FOR THE SAFETY OF THEIR PATRIOTS. OKAY. WELL, I KNOW SOME OF THE LETTERS THAT HAVE COME THROUGH TO ME. UM, AND YOU KNOW, BEYOND SIMPLY THE DEEP ALLEN FOUNDATION, OBVIOUSLY THEY'VE GOT STAKEHOLDERS, OPERATORS, AS THEY MENTIONED. UM, BUT THERE WERE OTHER COMMUNITY FEEDBACK THAT I HAD RECEIVED, UM, RAISING SOME CONCERNS. UM, UH, AND SO THAT'S WHY I WAS JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MEASURES YOU HAD IN PLACE. I THINK THAT'S ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT COMMISSIONERS ARE ASKING. AND I KNOW YOU, YOU ALL ARE NEW AND MR. REVELO IS THERE AS WELL. UM, BUT FOR, YOU KNOW, WE HAD A, AN EXPIRED SUP, WE HAD A BUSINESS OPERATING WITHOUT THAT. THEY, UM, HAD CLOSED FILED FOR THE SUP IN JUNE. THEY'D BEEN WORKING THROUGH THAT PROCESS. UM, I THINK FROM THAT TIME I HAD MENTIONED, ONE OF THE COMMISSIONERS ASKED ABOUT THE ONE YEAR THAT TYPICALLY, UM, FOR ANY NEW [03:45:01] SUP IN DEEP EUM, IT'S A ONE YEAR PERIOD. I THINK I JUST HAD RECEIVED ONGOING FEEDBACK, UM, FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO UNDERSTAND RAISING CONCERNS ABOUT THAT. AND ONE YEAR CAN BE A VERY LONG TIME IF YOU'RE EXPERIENCING TROUBLE. AND, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY, THEY WERE OPERATING FOR EIGHT MONTHS AND I THINK THE QUESTION WOULD BE ANOTHER, IT'S ASKING FOR THE COMMUNITY TO GIVE THEM AN ADDITIONAL EIGHT MONTHS TO, YOU KNOW, TRY TO CONTINUE THEIR IMPROVING. AND THAT'S WHERE, BASED ON THE TOTALITY OF THE INFORMATION AND THE SEPARATE DPDI GOT, I GOT VERBAL FEEDBACK FROM THE APPLICANT TEAM. WE RECEIVED THE WRITTEN FEEDBACK FROM DEAF TEAM. UM, MR. WARREN, YOU DID A FABULOUS JOB SORT OF GIVING YOUR SUMMARY BACK IN RESPONSE TO THAT. BUT I HAD ASKED FOR THE PURE DATA, AND THAT'S WHAT I RECEIVED THIS MORNING, UM, FROM PLAN COMM OR FROM, UM, DPD AND THE TOTALITY OF THE INCIDENTS WHEN THEY WERE OPEN, UM, DO NOT SEEM TO SUPPORT THE SUP REQUIREMENTS. THERE ARE THREE PRONGS THAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH APPLYING, AND I WAS SIMPLY NOT ABLE TO MAKE THAT RECOMMENDATION. AND I, IT, I FULLY HEAR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS TO NOT ALLOW AN SUP AND IMPACT A BUSINESS GIVES ME GREAT PAUSE. SO I WILL LOOK FORWARD TO HEARING THE, UM, FEEDBACK OF MY COMMISSIONER, FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER WHEELER. SO DID I HEAR, UM, THE APPLICANT OR ONE OF THE REPRESENTATIVE, THE APPLICANT SAYS SINCE THE PROP, THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR THE LAST 90 DAYS, THAT IT HAS ALSO RECEIVED ONGOING LEASE REPORTS AND INCIDENTS THAT'S BEEN NEAR OR AROUND THE BUSINESS, EVEN THOUGH THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS HAS BEEN CLOSED. WAS WAS THAT A QUESTION FOR SOMEONE SPECIFIC? MS. WILL SOMEBODY, I'M, I'M TRYING TO MAKE SURE THAT I HEARD IT RIGHT, BECAUSE IT SEEMS LIKE THE SAME INCIDENT THAT WE'VE HAD PRIOR AT, AT, AT A PROPERTY IN DEEP EL. SO THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR 90 DAYS. IF THE BUSINESS HAS BEEN CLOSED FOR 90 DAYS AND WITHIN THE 90 DAY PERIOD THAT IT HAS BEEN CLOSED, HAVE THERE BEEN ONGOING POLICE REPORTS AND INCIDENTS AT THAT LOCATION? THANK YOU. IN THE SURROUNDING AREA OF THE LOCATION. THANK YOU. YEAH. YES. THERE, THERE HAVE BEEN INCIDENTS, UH, DEF EVEN EMAILED US AND THEN JUST THEY TOOK IT OFF WHAT THEY SENT YOU, BUT THEY ACTUALLY SENT US INCIDENTS THAT HAPPENED IN JULY AND SINCE THEY'VE BEEN CLOSED. YES. AND, AND I WONDER, AND THERE WAS ONLY 3 20, 26 INCIDENTS AND TWO OF THOSE WEREN'T ON THE PREMISES. MS. HAMPTON, I, I THINK I'M CONFUSED ON, I I THINK YOU'RE GIVING MISINFORMATION ON THE DPT THAT THEY HAVE LESS THAN CLUB DATA. THEY HAVE LESS DPD INCIDENTS THAN ALMOST EVERY BAR ON THAT STREET. AND I THINK IT'S AN INJUSTICE FOR YOU TO SIT THERE KNOWING THAT IT'S NOT THE PREMISES AND SAY THE DPD REPORTS SUGGEST THAT THEY'RE A PROBLEM WHEN THERE'S BEEN THREE AND TWO OF THEM AREN'T. SIR, ADDRESS THE CHAIR. DON'T, SORRY, SORRY. I NEED QUESTION. I JUST FIND IT, I JUST FIND IT. SURE, SURE. I I FIND IT, WE'VE DISCUSSED IT. I FIND IT VERY UNFAIR, AND I DON'T, I DON'T WANNA SAY THAT DISHONEST AND DISINGENUOUS TO SIT THERE AND HAVE LIKE, UM, COMMISSIONER SERRATO ASKING ALL THESE INCIDENTS THAT ARE HAPPENING AND HAPPENING AND HAPPENING EVERY WEEK AND, AND THERE'S NOT, IT'S JUST NOT THE CASE. SO, UNDERSTOOD. I THINK IT'S, I THINK IT'S, I I FIND IT OFFENSIVE, SIR. HOW, HOLD ON, COMMISSIONER WHEELER, JUST TO LET YOU KNOW. SO THAT'S MY, I DON'T WANNA SAY ANYMORE BECAUSE I'M GETTING UPSET. THANK YOU, SIR. SO MY CONCERN IS WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE PAST WHEN A, WHEN A PROPERTY IT, SO THE PROPERTY HAS BEEN CLOSED. UM, WE, THE DATA, SO ADDITIONAL DATA THAT WAS CIRCULATED, THAT WAS TO BE CIRCULATED TO THE APPLICANT, THAT WASN'T CIR THAT WASN'T CIRCULATED TO THIS PARTICULAR BOARD. THAT IS SAYING THAT THERE HAS BEEN INCIDENTS SINCE THESE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN CLOSED. AND THAT HAS NOT, THAT HAS NOT BEEN WEIGHED IN BECAUSE IT'S EASY TO SAY, WELL, IT'S JUST THOSE PEOPLE AND, AND THEY'RE IN AN AIR AND, AND IT'S THEIR FAULT. BUT THEN IF THE INCIDENTS ARE CONTINUING TO GO WHEN THE SO-CALLED PROBLEM IS GONE, I, I HAVE POSITIVE CONCERN CONCERNING THAT. UM, AND, AND ALSO IN THE PAST, UM, STAFF, WE USUALLY ASK STAFF TO, UM, UM, WE, WE, WE WANNA KNOW ON THE, ON THE POLICE REPORTS THAT THAT PRETTY MUCH, I SEE, UM, WE, IT'S ONLY ONE EMERGENCY. IS IT ONE EMERGENCY URGENT, TWO URGENT. AND, BUT WE, I WANNA KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING. SO AT 5 29 IN THE MORNING, THERE WAS A INCIDENT, THE CLUB IS CLOSED AT 3 32. THAT'S ABOUT AN HOUR AND A HALF AFTER THE CLUB. [03:50:01] THE, UH, THE, THE BAR IS OPEN. UM, THEY CLOSED AT 2:00 AM THAT INCIDENT HAPPENED. YOU DO HAVE ONE WITHIN THE TIMEFRAME THAT WAS AN EMERGENCY. THE OTHER CALLS WERE NOT, UM, WAS, UM, UM, AND THE THREE CALLS THAT DID HAPPEN, IF THESE INCIDENTS ARE STILL HAPPENING, WHAT, WHERE IS THE INFORMATION FROM THE LAST 90 DAYS THAT WE NEED TO EVALUATE? UH, BECAUSE I MEAN, THAT'S A, THAT'S AN ADDITIONAL, THAT'S THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT WILL LEAD US TO BELIEVE IT. MAYBE THE APPLICANT MIGHT BE TELLING SOME, IT CAN BE A COMBINATION OF ALL THE BARS. AND THIS HAPPENS QUITE, QUITE OFTEN WHEN YOU HAVE ROWS AND ROWS OF BARS. AND THE COMMON ADDRESS IS THE CLOSEST ADDRESS DPD WILL USE. SO I JUST WANNA KNOW THAT PORTION. I THINK WE'RE MISSING SOME INFORMATION AND IF THAT APPLICANT STILL HAS THE INFORMATION THAT, THAT THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION SENT TO THEM, BUT DID NOT SEND TO US. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHEELER. COMMISSIONER CO. UM, SORRY, COMMISSIONER SERRATA. UM, MY, MY QUESTION WAS SIMILAR, LIKE, DO WE HAVE ANY DATA, UM, SINCE THEY'VE SHUT DOWN, HAVE WE SEEN LESS INCIDENTS SINCE THEY'VE SHUT DOWN OVER THE SUMMER? IS IS, ARE WE SEEING LIKE CLEAR LIKE LINES WITH WHEN THEY'RE OPEN, THERE'S PROBLEMS WHEN THEY'RE CLOSED? THERE'S NOT PROBLEMS. LIKE THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S THE QUESTION THAT, UM, I'M LEFT WITH SINCE THEY'VE CLOSED, HAVE THEIR, HAVE THE PROBLEMS CONTINUED AND AND WE'RE JUST BLAMING THEM WHEN THEY'RE OPEN? OR IS IT REALLY, WHEN THEY'RE OPEN, ALL THESE PROBLEMS SUDDENLY START HAPPENING LIKE THAT? THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE, I THINK. THANK YOU. UH, DOES STAFF HAVE THAT DATA? WE FORWARDED, UH, THE CRIME SHOTS WE DID RECEIVE FROM, UM, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT EARLIER TODAY. UH, I THINK THE OPPOSITION WHO'S, UH, OWNER OF THE DATA MAY HAVE A RESPONSE. CAN YOU CUT THAT DATA THAT WE PROVIDED? WE'RE HAPPY TO CLARIFY THE BETWEEN ZERO AND 0.15% VERSUS THE 0.45% THAT WE PROVIDED. IF YOU'LL PULL UP THE MAP AGAIN. UM, DEEP ELM IS VERY TIGHT STOREFRONTS, SO WE HAVE A TIGHT UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT IT MEANS. SO IF YOU SAY SOMETHING HAPPENED ON ELM STREET, OKAY, YEAH. ELM STREET IS, YOU KNOW, WE'VE GOT 600 BUSINESSES IN DEEP ELM, OVER A HUNDRED OF WHICH ARE BARS AND RESTAURANTS. OUR DATA IS SPECIFIC TO INCIDENTS THAT ARE TIED DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THIS ESTABLISHMENT. THE ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS ALSO, THERE'S ANOTHER ESTABLISHMENT BEFORE YOU TODAY THAT IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS ESTABLISHMENT THAT HAS ZERO DIRECTLY ADJACENT WITHIN LESS THAN A FOOT AWAY THAT HAS ZERO. THE ESTABLISHMENTS TWO DOORS AND THREE DOORS DOWN ARE ALSO UNDER THAT 0.15 LEVEL. SO IT'S DIFFICULT. I AGREE IN DEEP EL TO UNDERSTAND WHAT CAME OUT OF A SPECIFIC BUSINESS. WE OPERATE A SAFETY PROGRAM WHERE THERE'S OFF-DUTY OFFICERS EVERY SINGLE NIGHT, THANK YOU, OF THE ENTIRE YEAR. THE SPECIFIC QUESTION THOUGH WAS HAS THERE BEEN CRIME AT THIS SITE, AT THIS ADDRESS REPORTED FROM JUNE TO NOW? I AM NOT ABLE TO SPEAK TO DBD SPECIFIC DATA, BUT FROM MY KNOWLEDGE, RUNNING THE DEEP EL SAFE PROGRAM, WHICH OPERATES EVERY SINGLE NIGHT IN THE DISTRICT AT THIS SPECIFIC ADDRESS IN FRONT OF THIS SPECIFIC STOREFRONT, VIRTUALLY NONE, MAYBE ONE, BUT NO, THANK YOU. UM, COM COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH, AND THEN I SEE YOU, YOUR HAND UP, MR. COMMISSIONER WILL AND COMMISSIONER KINGSTOWN. I, I HAVE, I HAVE CONCERNS. THERE'S SOME M YOU GO, I'M CONFUSED. THEY'RE ASKING, SHE SAID SHE COULDN'T ANSWER SPECIFICALLY, AND THEN SHE SAID NO. UM, IF THE INCIDENTS ARE HAPPENING IN THE STREET AND A HUNDRED YARDS AWAY, DO WE KNOW SPECIFICALLY THAT THAT PERSON CAME OUT OF THAT ESTABLISHMENT? WE'RE BLAMING THEM FOR SOME THINGS THAT MAY NOT HAVE BEEN ASSOCIATED WITH THAT BUSINESS. AND YES, THEY HAD SOME LEARNING TO DO AND TAKING THE BARTENDER AND MAKING HIM THE GENERAL MANAGER MAY NOT HAVE BEEN THE BEST DECISION AT THAT TIME, BUT SHUTTING THE BUSINESS DOWN AFTER LESS THAN A YEAR OF OPERATIONS. AND WE CAN'T SPECIFICALLY BLAME THEM FOR EVERYTHING THAT'S HAPPENED. I, I HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. UM, COMMISSIONER WHEELER AND THEN, I MEAN, SORRY, COMMISSIONER, UM, KINGSTON. FIRST ROUND TWO AND THEN WILLER, YOU'LL BE NEXT. THANK YOU. LOOK, FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION RUNS A VERY PROFESSIONAL ORGANIZATION. THEY HAVE A VERY TIGHT HANDLE ON WHAT'S HAPPENING IN DEEP ELLUM. THEY NEVER COME DOWN HERE TO OPPOSE BARS. WE HAD A SLEW [03:55:01] OF RECOMMENDATIONS, FOUR BARS AT OUR LAST MEETING FROM THIS FOUNDATION. THEY'RE VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THEIR OPERATORS. WHEN THEY COME DOWN HERE TO OPPOSE ONE, IT'S BECAUSE IT'S A PROBLEM. AND FOR ME, THE REASON THAT WE EACH HAVE OUR OWN DISTRICTS IS BECAUSE WE KNOW ABOUT OUR, ABOUT OUR DISTRICTS, THAT WE KNOW ABOUT EVERYONE ELSE'S DISTRICTS. AND IF THERE'S A TIE TO BE HAD, I TEND TO GIVE IT TO THE PERSON WHOSE DISTRICT IT IS. DEEP EL IS A COMPLEX AREA, AND I REPRESENT NIGHTCLUBS AND I REPRESENT AREAS THAT HAVE NIGHTCLUBS. IT'S EASY FOR THESE GUYS TO COME IN HERE AND SAY, OH, GEE, GOLLY, YOU KNOW, WE'RE TRYING SO HARD AND IT'S NOT US, AND THEY DON'T KNOW. AND WE, WE'VE GOT THIS PLAN. BUT WHEN YOU'VE GOT THE FOUNDATION AND YOU'VE GOT OTHER OPERATORS, AND YOU'VE GOT LANDLORDS AND YOU'VE GOT COMMUNITY MEMBERS, AND THEY'RE ALL COMING DOWN HERE SAYING IT'S THEM, THEY'RE THE PROBLEM, THEN MAYBE THEY'RE THE PROBLEM. AND DEBELL EM IS A PROBLEM RIGHT NOW. AND IF WE DON'T START MAKING SOME CHANGES, IT'S GONNA CONTINUE TO BE A PROBLEM. AND IT'S NOT FAIR TO THE OPERATORS WHO ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES AND TRYING TO FOLLOW THE RULES AND TRYING TO HAVE A GOOD OPERATION TO LET GUYS LIKE THIS SLIDE. AND MAYBE IT'S NOT RIGHT THAT THEY HAD A BARTENDER BE AN OPERATOR, BUT THAT'S, THAT'S NOT HOW YOU OPERATE. A PROFESSIONAL NIGHTCLUB, PROFESSIONAL NIGHTCLUBS HAVE SECURITY. THEY HAVE LICENSED SECURITY OFFICERS, THEY HAVE SECURITY EQUIPMENT. THEY HIRE DPD OFFICERS. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT IS NEW. THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT'S UNKNOWN. THESE ARE CHOICES THEY MAKE, AND NOW THEY'RE BEARING THE CONSEQUENCES OF THOSE CHOICES. AND THE REST OF THE COMMUNITY AROUND THEM, UNFORTUNATELY, IS BEARING THE CONSEQUENCES OF THEIR CHOICES. THAT'S THE POINT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHEELER. UM, I, I'M GOING TO BELIEVE IN ALL, IN ALL HONESTY, THAT COMMISSIONER HAMPTON HAS DONE HER DONE AT THE BEST OF DUE DILIGENCE AS SHE CAN. BUT WHAT I ALSO KNOW IS THIS, WE WERE HERE TWO YEARS AGO FOR A A, A CL A CL A CLUB CLOSE BY. AND WHEN THE DATA WAS, WHEN ALL THE DATA WAS PRESENTED, WE FOUND OUT THAT THERE WAS SOME HALF TRUTHS BEING TOLD. AND THOSE TRUTH. AND, AND, AND SINCE THEN, THAT CLUB HAS BEEN, WE GAVE THEM A, A SHORT SUP THAT CLUB HAS BEEN IN COMPLIANCE, HAVE DONE WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO. AND, AND, AND SO AGAIN, THERE IS SOME HAT OUTS BEING PRESENTED TO US. WE HAVE THE DEEP ALLEN FOUNDATION WHO CAME IN AND SAID IT JUST LIKE I, UM, I, OUR, ANOTHER COMMISSIONER JUST SAID WAS FIRST, I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT WAS ONE. WELL, NO, WE DON'T WANNA HER, WE WANNA HEAR THE FULL TOTALITY OF THE DATA AND THE DA AND, AND, AND I WOULD REALLY ASK IF STAFF WOULD'VE, OR THE POLICE, I MEAN THE POLICE REPORTS OR THE DATA, BECAUSE IF IN THE LAST 90 DAYS THERE WAS CONTINUING INCIDENTS, I'M GOING TO BELIEVE THAT PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET HAS ISSUES. THERE ARE SOME ISSUES ALONG THE WHOLE BLOCK. AND WE DIDN'T GET THE FULL DATA. WE DID THIS TWO YEARS AGO, ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO, AND WE FOUND OUT THAT THE OPERATOR DID EXACTLY WHAT THEY SAID THEY WERE GOING TO DO. AND THAT THERE, THAT, THAT THE EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED WAS NOT THE FULL EVIDENCE ORIGINALLY. AND SO WE ARE MISSING DATA. WE'RE MISSING THE DATA THAT SAYS, DID SOMETHING HAPPENED IN THE LAST 90 DAYS THAT PROVES MORE, THAT PROVES THAT THIS APPLICANT MIGHT BE TELLING SOME TRUTH THAT IT'S NOT ALL THEM ALONE, AND THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY GIVE THEM A ONE YEAR SUP JUST LIKE WE GAVE EVOS, WHO ACTUALLY WAS ALONG IS A GREAT A, A GREAT, UM, UM, A, A, A GREAT CLUB AT THIS POINT. NOT ONLY THAT, THERE IS PLACES IN OUR DISTRICT THAT IS VERY UNIQUE TO US, BUT THEN WE HAVE DISTRICTS IN THE CITY OF THAT THAT'S IN OUR DISTRICTS THAT DOES NOT JUST SUPPORT THE INDIVIDUAL, UM, UH, UH, INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THESE ARE OUR ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICT. MATTER OF FACT, IT'S THE CENTRAL DISTRICT. THESE ARE THE CENTRAL DISTRICTS AND THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS THAT EVERYONE AT SOME POINT IN THIS ROOM HAVE WENT TO. SO WE HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION FOR THE GREATER DALLAS ALONG WITH THOSE PROTECTIVE NEIGHBORHOODS. SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE SAME AS INCIDENT OF I WAS MAKING THE DECISION AND, AND NOT TAKING INTO TOTALITY FOR SOMETHING THAT FAR PARK, THE FAR PARK BELONGS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS. EVERYBODY COMES FROM TO THE CITY OF DALLAS, FROM THE CITY OF DALLAS TO SOUTH DALLAS. THIS IS THE SAME INCIDENT. AND, AND I CAN, AND, AND ONE YOUR, SEEMS, SEEMS, SEEMS REASONABLE, JUST LIKE WE GAVE A BIG BOLD ONE AND, AND THEY DID EVERYTHING THAT THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO DO. THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WHEELER. UM, COMMISSIONER KAUFMAN. IT APPEARS TO ME, BASED ON ALL THIS TESTIMONY THAT WE'RE HEARING TODAY, THAT THERE'S A, UH, A LOT OF, UH, [04:00:01] MAYBE PERSONAL FEELINGS INVOLVED IN SOME OF THIS. I THINK I WOULD LIKE TO ERR ON THE SIDE OF ASKING WHY SOMEONE HAS NOT OPPOSED OR FILED A COMPLAINT ON THE SUP IF IT WAS SUCH A PROBLEM. AND, UH, 'CAUSE I THINK THAT WAS PART OF THE ASSOCIATION AND, AND EVEN OTHER NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA. DID ANYBODY FILE CO OFFICIAL COMPLAINTS AGAINST THEIR SUV UM, STAFF? DO WE HAVE ANY CODE COMPLAINTS OR NO THREE ON ONE COMPLAINTS ABOUT THE PROPERTY? MR. CHAIR, I CAN SAY THAT THERE WERE THREE REPLY FORMS, ZONING REPLY FORMS THAT WERE RETURNED IN OPPOSITION ONE IN SUPPORT. IF THAT WAS THE QUESTION. I, I THINK THE QUESTION WAS WHY WASN'T THE SUP PULLED IN SOME TYPE OF WAY BEFORE THIS MOMENT? UM, I MEAN, IT SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE WAS, IF THEY DIDN'T, UH, THEY DIDN'T HAVE ONE, FIRST OF ALL, UH, , SO THEY COULDN'T PULL THE SUP OR REPORT THE SUP. UM, I THINK THIS IS A PROCESS THAT'S ONLINE FOR IT. UM, BUT YES, I HAVE SEEN INCIDENTS WHERE PEOPLE REPORTED THAT THEY WANTED THE SUP PULLED AND HAVE AN AUTHORIZED HEARING ABOUT THAT. I DON'T THINK THAT HAD GOT TO THIS LEVEL YET. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE THERE'S A LOT OF GUILT ALL THE WAY AROUND. THANK YOU COMMISSIONER SERRATO. SORRY. I'LL JUST MAKE, UM, ONE MORE COMMENT. UM, YOU KNOW, WE ALLOWED A ONE YEAR SUP FOR A BUSINESS THAT WAS DELIBERATELY OPERATING WITH, YOU KNOW, WITHOUT PERMISSION TO BE OPERATING THAT A SOCIAL HOUSE OVER BY KICK SPRINGS PARK. UM, WE GAVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO REMEDY THEIR WRONGS AND, YOU KNOW, A SHORT TERM PERMISSION TO DO THAT. I KNOW SOME OF THE COMMISSIONERS DIDN'T AGREE WITH THAT ONE EITHER. UM, BUT AGAIN, I'M, I'M, I'M STUCK ON THE FACT THAT LIKE, I LIKE TO SEE SMALL BUSINESSES OWNED BY DALLAS NATIVES, PEOPLE THAT GREW UP IN THE CITY, PEOPLE THAT KNOW THE CITY, AND, UM, YEAH, A LOT OF MISTAKES MADE HERE WITH HOW, UM, THE CLUB IS BEING MANAGED. BUT, UM, I TOO THINK PERHAPS A ONE YEAR SUP CAN HELP, YOU KNOW, WHIP THEM INTO SHAPE IF IT'S BEEN DONE FOR OTHER BUSINESSES AND DEBELL 'EM, THEN, UM, I THINK THERE COULD CERTAINLY BE A CONSIDERATION MADE HERE. UM, I, I DO FEAR, UM, YOU KNOW, WHY THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS IS BEING, UM, TARGETED FOR, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE, ANYONE THAT'S GREW UP IN DALLAS, EVERYBODY'S BEEN A DEEP EL AND IT'S MESSY IN LOTS OF WAYS. THERE'S A LOT OF FUN TO BE HAD DOWN THERE, BUT IT'S MESSY AND YOU DON'T KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE HAPPENING, WHERE PEOPLE ARE GOING, WHAT, WHAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT'S WHAT SOMETIMES. UM, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, BLAMING, UH, A BUSINESS ALONG A STRIP THAT'S PRETTY BUSY, UM, FOR A LOT OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. AGAIN, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, I, I DO TRUST YOUR JUDGMENT. UM, I DON'T WANNA OVERLOOK THAT, BUT, UM, I, I'M, AGAIN, TRYING TO MITIGATE ALL OF THAT. THANK YOU, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON. WELL, I JUST, I MEAN, I, I APPRECIATE ALL THE FEEDBACK FROM MY COMMISSIONERS AND, YOU KNOW, I, I DID NOT MAKE THIS LIGHTLY, IT IS DIFFICULT FOR ME TO NOT SUPPORT A BUSINESS, BUT IN THE TOTALITY OF THE INFORMATION AND ONE FROM A OPERATOR, REPEATED ISSUES WITH PATRON ENTRY, UM, YOU KNOW, AND IT'S A LETTER THAT WE RECEIVED, INCIDENTS THAT BEGIN INSIDE THE CLUB THAT EXTEND ONTO ELM STREET AFFECTING NEIGHBORING BUSINESSES, THEIR EMPLOYEES, PATRONS, PEDESTRIANS IN THE BROADER COMMUNITY. AND, YOU KNOW, THAT IS FRANKLY WHERE I LANDED ON RECOMMENDING THE DENIAL. MAY I SAY, SO COMMISSIONER I, MR. ELLIS, PLEASE? I, I WILL, I WILL ASK MR. ELLIS IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION TO SHARE. YES, THANK YOU. WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, COMMISSIONERS, UM, COMMISSIONER HAMPTON, I, WE BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED BY THE FOUNDATION MAY HAVE BEEN INACCURATE. UH, EVEN THOUGH I DID REQUEST FROM DPD, UM, UH, SOME INFORMATION, WE HAVE NOT RECEIVED THAT, 'CAUSE I WANTED TO GO BACK TWO YEARS TO, TO STUDY THAT. BUT BECAUSE OF THE OPEN RECORDS AND THE SHORT TIME PERIOD THAT WE'VE BEEN ON THIS CASE, WE WEREN'T ABLE TO GET THAT INFORMATION. HOWEVER, MR. MARVIN DID A DEEP DIVE INTO THE DPD WEBSITE IN TERMS OF THE INCIDENTS, REPORTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. HE HAS AN EXTENSIVE, ELABORATE SPREADSHEET SHOWING ALL THE BUSINESSES ALONG ELM STREET IN TERMS OF THE VIOLATIONS, REPORTS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE. AND BASED OFF OF THAT ANALYSIS, AND AGAIN, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE INFORMATION I REQUESTED FROM DPD, THAT ANALYSIS THAT [04:05:01] HE PULLED FROM THAT WEBSITE SHOWS SIGNIFICANTLY A LOT MORE INCIDENCE ON THE OTHER BUSINESSES AS OPPOSED TO THEIRS. SO WE BELIEVE THAT SOME OF THE INFORMATION MAY BE INACCURATE. BUT AGAIN, TO VERIFY THAT FROM DPD, I HAVE NOT RECEIVED THE OPENS OF RECORDS REQUEST THAT I, THAT I ASKED FOR ALMOST TWO WEEKS AGO. AND MR. ELLIS, MAY I ASK YOU, UM, I WAS TOLD THAT INFORMATION VERBALLY. I ASKED REPEATEDLY TO HAVE THAT INFORMATION SHARED WITH ME, AND I DID NOT RECEIVE IT. I WAS HOPING TO HAVE THAT AS WELL, WHICH IS WHY I HAD REQUESTED STAFF TO GET REACH OUT TO DPDA FEW WEEKS AGO AT OUR LAST MEETING. AND I JUST RECEIVED IT THIS MORNING. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE IT WITH YOU. IT ONLY EXTENDS THROUGH JUNE, BUT I WILL SEND THAT TO YOU THIS AFTERNOON. YES. IF THAT'S HELPFUL. YES. BUT IT'S, UM, AND I DID, AND I DID REPORT FOR, IT CAN BE SHARED COURT, IT CAN BE SHARED HERE. I DID, I DID I THINK REQUEST IT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD OF ALL THE BUSINESSES SO WE CAN DO AN IN DEPTH ANALYSIS SO I CAN DO AN IN DEPTH ANALYSIS, SO I COULD PRESENT THAT TO THIS BOARD. BUT LIKE, AGAIN, OFFIC, UNFORTUNATELY I HAVE NOT RECEIVED IT. UH, WHEN I ASKED FOR OPEN RECORDS REPORT FROM DVD, WELL, RESPECTFULLY, IT WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL IF YOUR CLIENTS WOULD'VE SHARED IT WITH ME AS WELL. SO, UM, I DO KNOW THAT THERE'S, UM, DPD OFFICERS THAT ARE PART OF THE SAFE TEAM JUST FOR MY FELLOW COMMISSIONERS. UM, AND THAT IS THE BASIS FOR INFORMATION THAT THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION CIRCULATED IN THE REPORT. I KNOW YOU RESPONDED TO ALL OF THAT AS WELL, MR. ELLIS. UM, YOU KNOW, AND THAT, JUST FOR TRANSPARENCY WITH EVERYONE ON THE COMMISSION, YOU KNOW, WE DID RECEIVE A SAFETY PLAN, UM, AND IT WAS CIRCULATED TO THIS COMMISSIONER BY THE APPLICANT OR TO THIS COMMISSION BY THE APPLICANT TEAM. AND THOSE ARE MANY OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK WOULD'VE BEEN HELPFUL IF THOSE COULD HAVE BEEN RECEIVED EARLY IN THE PROCESS. BUT AGAIN, THAT'S WHERE I STATED EARLIER, MANY OF THIS SEEMS TO BE REACTIVE. AND WHEN I HAVE IMMEDIATE STAKEHOLDERS REACHING OUT TO ME AND SHARING CONCERNS ON IMPACTS TO THEM, THAT IS OUR SPECIFIC CHARGE IN EVALUATING AN SUP. AND THAT'S MY, YOU KNOW, PRIMARY, UM, CONCERN IS IF I REVIEW THE SUP REQUIREMENTS THAT WE ARE CHARGED WITH, THIS GROUP HAS NOT MET THOSE REQUIREMENTS. THANK MR. CHAIR. THANK, PLEASE RESPOND BECAUSE I KNOW YOU AND STEPHANIE ARE GOOD FRIENDS, BUT I JUST CANNOT, YOU'RE JUST NOT BEING WAIT, WAIT. SO, SO UNFORTUNATELY, SEPTEMBER 11TH, I'VE SENT YOU, WE'VE ALREADY HAD THESE CONVERSATIONS. SHE HAS THE INFORMATION. I SENT IT TO HER SEPTEMBER 11TH. I, MR. CHAIR, I RISE TO A POINT OF ORDER. WILL YOU PLEASE INSTRUCT THE WITNESS THAT HE HAS NOT BEEN RECOGNIZED BY THE CHAIR? THANK YOU. THERE'S, THERE'S THE POLICE DEPARTMENT I SENT TO HER SEPTEMBER 11TH. THAT BEING SAID, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? COMMISSIONER CARPENTER DOES HAVE A COMMENT. THANK YOU. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION TO DENY. I GIVE GREAT DEFERENCE TO THE, THE OPINION OF THE DEEP ALUM FOUNDATION. I HAVE BEEN ON THIS BOARD FOR NINE YEARS. I HAVE LISTENED TO HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF CASES, MANY OF WHICH ARE SUP RENEWALS FOR BARS, NIGHTCLUBS IN DEEP ALLEN. THIS IS EXACTLY THE SECOND TIME I'VE HEARD THEM RECOMMEND A DENIAL. THE FIRST TIME, THE FIRST CASE THAT RECOMMENDED DENIAL, I WON'T GIVE THE CLUB'S NAME. IT WAS SHUT DOWN DESPITE THE, UH, WE HAD PATRONS AND THE OWNERS AND SAYING WHAT A WONDERFUL PLACE IT WAS. BUT WE ALSO HAD THE POLICE COMING TO US AND, AND THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION TELLING US WHAT A SECURITY PROBLEM WAS. WE SHUT IT DOWN. IT GOT REOPENED DURING COVID UNDER LOOSE RULES, AND A MURDER OCCURRED THERE ALMOST IMMEDIATELY. THE PEOPLE WHO WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S A BIG PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEM IN DEEP EL, WE HAVE TO BE WILLING TO SHUT DOWN THE OPERATORS THAT ARE CONTRIBUTING TO THE PUBLIC SAFETY PROBLEM. IF DEEP EL IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE A THRIVING COMMUNITY, I UNDERSTAND EVERYBODY WANTS TO BE FAIR, BUT WE DON'T. I MEAN, AS FAR AS I KNOW, NONE OF US LIVE AND OPERATE DAILY IN DEEP EL. I WORKED AT THE MEADOWS FOUNDATION FOR 30 YEARS, WHICH IS JUST NORTH OF DEEP EL. I GOT INVOLVED FAIRLY, YOU KNOW, WITH SOME DEGREE OF REGULARITY 'CAUSE I DEALT WITH LAND ISSUES THERE OF CLUBS THAT WERE PROBLEMS THAT SPILLED OVER ONTO THE FOUNDATION'S CAMPUS IN THE EVENING. I HAD FOUND THE DEBELL FOUNDATION TO BE A REMARKABLY, UM, CONSISTENTLY ACCURATE ASSESSOR OF WHAT'S GOING ON THERE. SO I WILL BE SUPPORTING THE MOTION. [04:10:01] THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENT? OKAY, I'LL GO, UM, REALLY BRIEFLY AND THEN WE CAN GET THIS OFF THE TABLE. UM, I DON'T THINK I'LL BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. AND THE REASON IS THE, THE GAPS IN INFORMATION. UM, LET'S JUST SAY I EVANGELIZE AND DEBELL HIM SOMETIMES, RIGHT? UM, IN THIS PARKING LOT ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS AREA, UM, IS NOT ONLY JUST A PARKING LOT THERE, BUT IT STRETCHES OUT INTO A DEEPER PARKING LOT. SO THIS WHOLE CORRIDOR BECOMES A HANGOUT SPOT AFTER THE CLUB'S CLOSED. UM, STANDING AT THAT PARKING SPOT, LOOKING UP, THE FIRST THING YOU SEE IS SWEET WINE. YOU DON'T SEE TREES ACROSS THE STREET, WHICH IS A HUGE ENTERTAINMENT VENUE. YOU DON'T SEE A LOT OF THE VENUES HAVE SMALLER SIGNS, SMALLER, SMALLER FOOTPRINT, UM, SWEET WINE. I MEAN, IT'S BRIGHT AND BOLD. WHEN YOU LOOK UP, IT'S THE FIRST THING YOU SEE. UM, THE FACT THAT THIS BUSINESS HAS ONLY BEEN IN, IN BUSINESS FOR EIGHT MONTHS IS ANOTHER THING THAT GIVES ME PAUSE. A LOT OF INVESTMENT HAS TO BE MADE TO CONVERT THESE THINGS OVER. UM, AND AGAIN, I UNDERSTAND THEY BOUGHT AN OPERATING BUSINESS AND CONVERSION PROBABLY WASN'T AS EXPENSIVE. BUT THOSE ARE THE THINGS THAT GO INTO, UM, OPENING A BUSINESS, UM, FINDING THESE PAIN POINTS AND THEN, UM, MAKING THE CORRECTIONS ALONG THE WAY. UM, BECAUSE THERE ARE GAPS IN THESE OPERATIONS OF, OF THE REPORTS OF WHERE, WHAT, WHEN THE A HUNDRED YARDS, UM, MUCH DIFFERENT THAN THE INCIDENTS WHERE A RAPE OCCURRED IN THE PLACE, A MURDER OCCURRED IN THE PLACE. UM, DIFFERENT SCENARIOS, DITCHES, DIFFERENT SITUATIONS. I WOULD NOT SUPPORT A THREE YEAR BUT WOULD SUPPORT A ONE, UM, GIVING THE DETAILS, BUT DO UNDERSTAND, UM, AND RESPECT THE DEVELOPMENT OPERATORS. UM, THEIR BUSINESS OWNERS MOSTLY AS WELL. SOME OF THEM ARE RESIDENTS AS WELL. UM, AND I DO RESPECT THEIR OPINIONS AND UNDERSTANDING, BUT ALSO KNOW THAT THEY'RE ALSO COMPETING FACTORS, UM, IN THERE AS WELL. AND ALTHOUGH I TRUST THESE OPERATORS AS THOUGH I TRUST, UM, THE DIRECTORS HERE, THERE'S THAT CAVEAT, THAT LEGAL CAVEAT THERE THAT THAT GIVES PAUSE. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M STANDING. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? YES. COMMISSIONER HOUSE WRIGHT. I'M GONNA SUPPORT COMMISSIONER HAMPTON'S MOTION. UM, YEAH, I HATE TO SINGLE OUT A SINGLE, UH, A SINGLE BUSINESS, BUT THE FACT IS CRIME HAS BEEN ON THE RISE IN DEEP ELLUM, UM, HERE RECENTLY. AND I THINK THAT, UH, UM, THE CONSEQUENCES, UH, GO FAR BEYOND THIS ONE BUSINESS TO, UM, THE BUSINESSES OF MANY OTHER OPERATORS, UH, PROPERTY VALUES ACROSS THE DISTRICT. AND I JUST, I JUST DON'T THINK WE CAN TAKE A RISK ON A CASE LIKE THIS, UH, GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, COULD WE GET A RECORD VOTE? DISTRICT ONE? YES. DISTRICT TWO? YES. DISTRICT THREE? NO. DISTRICT FOUR? NO. DISTRICT FIVE? NO. DISTRICT SIX? YES. DISTRICT SEVEN? NO. DISTRICT EIGHT? NO. DISTRICT NINE. I'M SORRY. DISTRICT 10? YES. DISTRICT 11? YES. DISTRICT 12. OH MY GOD. SORRY. DISTRICT 13. YES. DISTRICT 14. YES. GOOD. MOTION PASSES AND PLEASE. 15 7, 6. UH, THE MOTION IS SEVEN TO SIX AND PASSES. OKAY. THANK [16. 26-3026A An application for MF-2(A) Multifamily District on property zoned CR Community Retail District and R-7.5(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Scyene Road and west line of N Prairie Creek Road, AKA 3125 N Prairie Creek Road. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Kittle Property Group / Jana Darmon Representative: Baldwin Associates / Robert Baldwin U/A From: September 3, 2026. Planner: Wayne Powell Council District: 5 Z-26-000158] YOU. MOVING ALONG TO CASE NUMBER 16. UH, NO BRIEFING NECESSARY. NO BRIEFING. PERFECT. LET'S GET IT WRITTEN TO THE RECORD. ITEM 16 IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 1 5 8. IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR MF TWO, A MULTIFAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ZONE, CER COMMUNITY RETAIL DISTRICT IN R SEVEN FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE NORTH LINE OF SION ROAD, WEST LINE OF NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD, ALSO KNOWN AS 3 1 2 5 NORTH PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD. STAFF. RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL. KATHY, THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? MR. BALDWIN? NO. YOU, YOU GOOD? [04:15:02] THAT A WEIRD CASE. . THAT'S A LOT GOING ON. UH, ROB BALDWIN 3 9 0 4 ON STREET SUITE B. UH, WE HAD A NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING EARLIER IN THE WEEK. UH, WE'RE GONNA HAVE ANOTHER ONE ON THE 29TH. SO THIS, THIS, I WOULD ASK THAT THIS CASE BE, UH, UH, HELD UNTIL AFTER THAT SECOND NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING. AND I'M SORRY I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION. . THANK YOU. ANY COMMENT? UH, PARDON ME. KNOW SHE LEAVING? PERFECT. UM, THANK YOU MR. I STILL HAVE A PLOT TO GO. IS THERE ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? HENRY RING. I, LET'S GET A MOTION. YEAH. IN THE MATTER OF KZ 2 6 0 0 0 1 58. I MOVE, I MOVE TO KEEP THE PUBLIC HEARING OPEN AND HOLD THIS CASE UNDER REV ADVISEMENT UNTIL OCTOBER 22ND. UM, AS MR. BALDWIN STATED, WE HAD A COMMUNITY MEETING AND THERE WAS SOME FEEDBACK FROM, UH, THE RESIDENTS IN THAT COMMUNITY MEETING. SO WE'RE HOSTING ANOTHER ONE, UH, HERE COMING PRETTY SOON. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. AND COMMISSIONER SIMS FOR THE SECOND. UM, LET'S HAVE IN A DISCUSSION. IT WAS ALREADY, ALREADY HAD. GOOD. UM, HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. MOVING RIGHT ALONG. [17. 26-3027A An application for D(A) Duplex District on property zoned R-10(A) Single Family District, on the southwest corner of Seaton Drive and Humphrey Drive. Staff Recommendation: Approval. Applicant: Juan Rankin / KJBJ Enterprises LLC, Antonio Everette / AE Equity Group LLC Representative: Matthew / Verdunity U/A From: August 20, 2026 and September 3, 2026. Planner: Martin Bate Council District: 4 Z-26-000146] CASE NUMBER 17, MR. BATE. HEY. YES, UH, I'M 17. IT'S CASE Z 26 0 0 0 1 46. AN APPLICATION FOR DA DUPLEX DISTRICT ON PROPERTIES ZONE R 10, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER SEAT AND DRIVE AT HUNT FOR DRIVE. STAFF. RECOMMENDATIONS. APPROVAL. THANK YOU. UH, ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? SEEING NONE, CAN WE GET A, UM, A MOTION IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER Z 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 46? I MOVE TO DENY THE APPLICATION WITHOUT PREJUDICE. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND. UH, YOU HAVE A COMMENT? WE DID GIVE, UM, THE OWNER A CHANCE TO REACH OUT. I SENT THEM AN EMAIL. I DID NOT HEAR BACK FROM THEM AND HE HAD OFFERED NO CHANGES. THANK YOU. UM, ANY OTHER COMMENTS? HEARING NONE, LET'S GET A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES CARRY. THANK YOU. [18. 26-3012A An application for an amendment to Specific Use Permit No. 2167 for a bail bonds office on property zoned Mixmaster Riverfront within Planned Development No. 784, Trinity River Corridor Special Purpose District, on the southwest corner of S. Riverfront Boulevard and Rock Island Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to an amended site plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Cowboy Bail Bonds / Buckley Chappell Representative: Song Whiddon, PLLC / Yuliana Ramirez Planner: Justin Lee Council District: 6 Z-26-000057] CASE NUMBER 18. IT'S OUR, NOW WE'RE UNDER THE INDIVIDUAL CASES. I GUESS 18 IS Z 2 6 0 0 0 5 7. IT'S AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE PERMIT NUMBER. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, Z 2 60 0 5 7 IS AN APPLICATION FOR AN AMENDMENT TO SPECIFIC USE. PERMIT NUMBER 2 1 6 7 FOR A BAIL BONDS OFFICE ON PROPERTY ZONE. MAKES MASTER RIVERFRONT, UH, WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT 7 84. THE TRINITY TRINITY RIVER CORRIDOR SOCIAL PURPOSES ARE ON THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SOUTH RIVERFRONT BOULEVARD AND ROCK ISLAND STREET STAFF. RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO AN AMENDMENTS SITE, PLANT AND STAFF'S RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. UH, ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? WELCOME, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, UH, SHANNON COM. UH, COMMISSIONER, UM, UH, MY NAME IS GEORGE GERALD. I'M FROM SAN WILLIAM LAW FIRM, UH, ON BEHALF OF THE APPLICANT. UM, UH, WE AGREE WITH THE, UH, STATUS RECOMMENDATION, UH, FULLY. AND, UH, WE, UH, THE USE HAS BEEN OPERATED FOR OVER, UH, 11 YEARS AND NOTHING HAS BEEN CHANGED. SO, UM, AND, UH, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTION IF YOU HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UH, ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. YOU HAVE A MOTION COMMISSIONER CARPENTER? YES. IN THE MATTER CASES Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 0 5 7. A MOVE THAT WE CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL, BUT FOR A SEVEN YEAR PERIOD WITH NO ELIGIBILITY FOR AUTO RENEWAL, SUBJECT TO AN AMENDED SITE PLANNING CONDITIONS. THANK YOU FOR THE, UH, MOTION AND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT FOR THE SECOND. UH, ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. CAN WE GET A VOTE? ALL IN FAVOR, SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES CARRY. THANK YOU. [19. 26-3028A An application for a new Specific Use Permit for a bar, lounge, or tavern and inside commercial amusement limited to a live music venue on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development No. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the south line of Elm Street, west of N. Crowdus Street, AKA 2704 Elm Street. Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions. Applicant: Three Links Representative: Adam Medrano / Adam Medrano Consulting Planner: Oscar Aguilera Council District: 2 Z-26-000149] OSCARS UP CASE NUMBER 19 CASE. UH, NUMBER 19 IS AN APPLICATION FOR A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN, AND AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT LIMITED TO A LIVE MUSIC VENUE ON A PROPERTY ZONE. TRACK A WITHIN PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 2 69, THE DEVELOP NEAR, UH, EAST SIDE DISTRICT, LOCATED ON THE SIDELINE OF [04:20:01] ELM STREET, WEST OF NORTH, UH, KRA STREET, ALSO KNOWN AS, UH, 27 0 4 ELM STREET. STAFF. RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO SITE PLAN AND STAFFS, UH, RECOMMENDED CONDITIONS. THANK YOU, SIR. UM, ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS CASE? THE HONORABLE ADAM MADANO? UH, HELLO. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. ADAM MADANO, 2338. DOUGLAS, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 9. I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT. THANK YOU. MM-HMM . HAPPY TO HAVE YOU, SIR. ANYBODY ELSE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR AGAINST THIS CASE? HEARING NONE. LET'S GET A READ INTO THE, I MEAN, LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IN THE MATTER OF Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 1 4 9, I MOVE TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION FOR APPROVAL, BUT FOR A TWO YEAR PERIOD WITHOUT AUTOMATIC RENEWAL SUBJECT TO A SITE PLAN AND CONDITIONS. THANK YOU. UM, THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER CARPENTER. ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. OKAY. UM, LET'S GET A VOTE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES CARRY. WOW. [SUBDIVISION DOCKET] SUB THE SUBDIVISION DOCKET. WE HAVE SOME ITEMS ON CONSENT. OH BOY. CHAIR, I HAVE TO, UM, RECUSE ON ONE OF THE ITEMS. WHICH ONE? I'M SORRY. I HAVE TO RECUSE ON ONE OF THE, UM, ONE OF THE ITEMS, YOU KNOW, WHAT NUMBER IT IS OR STREET? UM, UM, IT'S, I THINK IT'S 26, BUT IT'S THE ONE PD FIVE. NINE FIVE. UM, PARNELL STREET. PARNELL STREET. I WANNA SAY IT'S 26. OKAY. AND IT'S ON THE CONSENT AGENDA, SO, UM, GO AHEAD AND SIGN OFF. OKAY. NOPE, IT HASN'T COME OFF CONSENT. OKAY. WE'LL PULL IT OFF AND YOU'LL VOTE ON CONSENT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. THANK YOU'ALL COMMON SENSE. 26. YEP. OH GOOD. UH, YOU READY TO READ THE CONSENT ITEMS INTO THE DOCKET? THANK YOU. UH, GOOD EVENING. THE CONSENT DOCKET CONSISTS OF 10 ITEMS. ITEM NUMBER 20, ITEM NUMBER 21, ITEM NUMBER 22. ITEM 23. ITEM 24, ITEM 25. ITEM 26. ITEM 27, 26 IS PULLED, OH, I'M SORRY. I APOLOGIZE. UH, ITEM 26 IS PULLED. ITEM 27, ITEM 28 AND 20 AND ITEM 29. UM, I DO HAVE ONE NOTE AND TWO CORRECTIONS FOR ITEM 23. THERE IS AN ADDITIONAL CONDITION RECOMMENDED THAT IS NOT LISTED IN THE AGENDA. PER PAVING AND DRAINAGE, DEDICATE A 28 FOOT RIGHT OF WAY VIA FEE SIMPLE OR STREET EASEMENT FROM ESTABLISHED CENTER LINE OF SAN LEONO AVENUE FOR 51, A 8.602 C 51, A 8.604 C. ADDITIONALLY, I HAVE, UM, FOR ITEM 28, THE COUNCIL DISTRICT IS INCORRECTLY NOTED AS DISTRICT TWO. IT SHOULD BE COUNCIL DISTRICT FOUR. ADDITIONALLY, THE OWNER FOR THIS PLAT ON ITEM 28 IS IDENTIFIED AS BRENTWOOD GARDENS, LLC. IT SHOULD BE BRENTWOOD DENS WITH A-C-L-L-C. ALL CASES HAVE BEEN POSTED FOR HEARING AT THIS TIME. AND STAFF RECOMMENDATION IS APPROVAL SUBJECT TO THE HEARING ARE SUBJECT TO THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET, OR IT'S AMENDED BY THIS HEARING. THANK YOU. UM, CAN WE GET A MOTION? COMMISSIONER FRANKLIN, YOU WANNA MAKE A MOTION? WELL, BEFORE YOU MAKE THAT MOTION, IS THERE ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON ANY OF THE ITEMS LISTED ON THE CONSENT DOCKET THAT HAVE BEEN BUNDLED? NO ONE'S HERE TO SPEAK. PERFECT. LET'S GET A MOTION ON THE FLOOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. CHAIR. IN THE MATTER OF THE SUBDIVISION CONSENT AGENDA, ITEMS 20 THROUGH 25. 27TH THROUGH 29, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET, UH, WITH, UH, CHANGES AS READ INTO THE RECORD. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER HOUSEWIFE FOR THE SECOND. ANY COMMENTS? HEARING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. NONE OPPOSED. [26. 26-3035A An application to replat a 0.438-acre tract of land containing part of Lot 73 in City Block 5/1116 to create one 0.105-acre lot, two 0.106-acre lots and one 0.120-acre lot on property located on Parnell Street at South Boulevard, north corner. Applicant/Owner: Kaminski Custom Builders, LLC Surveyor: Texas Heritage Surveying, LLC Application Filed: August 21, 2026. Zoning: PD 595 (FWMU-3) Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: William Castillo Council District: 7 PLAT-26-000216] THANK YOU. COMMISSIONER WILL, IF YOU WANT TO CLOCK OFF, WE'LL DO ITEM NUMBER 26. [04:25:01] NOT, NOT, DON'T SIGN ALL THE WAY OUT. BUT YOU DON'T MUTE YOUR CAMERA. MUTE YOUR PHONE MUTE. UH, THE CONSENT DOCKET NOW CONSISTS OF PLAT, OR SORRY, ITEM 26. JUST READ LIKE THE, OKAY. AN APPLICATION, UH, PLA TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 2 1 5. AN APPLICATION TO REPL A 0.43 ACRE TRACT OF LAND CONTAINING PART OF LOT 73 IN CITY BLOCK FIVE OVER 1 1 1 6 TO CREATE A 1.0, EXCUSE ME, 0.105 ACRE LOT, 2.106 ACRE LOTS, AND 1.120 ACRE LOT PROPERTY, UH, ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON PARNELL STREET AT SOUTH BOULEVARD NORTH CORNER. PERFECT. THANK YOU. ANYBODY HERE TO SPEAK ON THIS ONE? NO ONE'S IN THE AUDIENCE. OKAY. I'VE GOT A MOTION FOR YOU. LET'S GET THAT MOTION READ. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. CHAIR. IN THE MATTER OF, UH, PLATINUM NUMBER TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 2 1 6, I MOVE TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING AND FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL SUBJECT TO COMPLIANCE LISTED IN THE DOCKET CONDITION COMPLIANCE WITH CONDITIONS LISTED IN THE DOCKET. PERFECT. THANK YOU FOR THE MOTION. COMMISSIONER CARPENTER FOR THE SECOND, UH, ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES CARRIED. THANK YOU. UH, NOW FOR, FOR THE RESIDENTIAL REPLANTS, ITEM 30, PLA TWO SIX DASH 0 0 2 8 HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM THIS DOCKET. [31. 26-3040A An application to replat a 1.02-acre (44,438-square foot) tract of land in City Block 10/8616 to create one 0.25-acre (11,072-square foot) lot and three 0.26-acre (11,122 square foot) lots on property located on Brixey Drive at 51st Street, south corner. Applicant/Owner: Ronna Coward Surveyor: By-Line Surveying, LLC Application Filed: August 24, 2026 Zoning: R-10(A) Staff Recommendation: Approval, subject to compliance with the conditions listed in the docket. Planner: William Castillo Council District: 4 PLAT-26-000224] ITEM 31 DASH, I'M SORRY, ITEM 31 PLAT DASH TWO SIX DASH 0 0 0 2 2 4. AN APPLICATION TO REPLAT A 1.02 ACRE 44,438 SQUARE FOOT TRACT OF LAND IN CITY BLOCK 10 OVER 86 16 TO CREATE ONE 0.25 ACRE 11,072 SQUARE FOOT LOT AND THREE 0.26 ACRE LOTS, 11,122 SQUARE FOOT ON PROPERTY LOCATED ON BRICKIE DRIVE F 51ST STREET SOUTH CORNER 18. NOTICES WERE SENT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THIS PROPERTY ON AUGUST 25TH, 2026. WE HAVE RECEIVED ZERO RESPONSES IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION TO THIS PROPOSAL. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE REQUEST SUBJECT TO THE COMPLIANCE WITHIN THE CONDITION ELICITED IN THE DOCKET, OR IS AMENDED IN THIS HEARING. THANK YOU SO MUCH. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OR OPPOSITION OF THIS PLAQUE? THANK YOU MR. HARRIS. UH, CAN WE GET A MOTION, UM, COMMISSIONER GILBERT SMITH IN THE MATTER OF CASE NUMBER, NUMBER, YOUR MIC ON. OH, SORRY. THAT'S OKAY. IN THE, IN THE MATTER OF PLAT NUMBER 2 6 0 0 2 2 4. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE APPLICATION AS, UH, RECOMMENDED BY STAFF. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR THE SECOND COMMISSIONER HOUSEWRIGHT. ANY COMMENTS? NO COMMENTS. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. THANK YOU. BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UM, OUR LEGAL ATTORNEY HAS SOME ADVICE FOR US. NO, NO. HI. JUST REAL QUICKLY BEFORE WE ADJOURN, UM, I KNOW THAT Y'ALL RECEIVED AN INVITATION VIA EMAIL. LOOKS LIKE IT HIT YOUR INBOX ON FRIDAY AT NINE. CAN'T HEAR YOU. OH, SORRY. I THINK Y'ALL RECEIVED AN INVITATION FROM DISD THAT HIT YOUR EMAIL INBOX ON FRIDAY AT 9:22 AM IT'S TO ATTEND THIS, UM, NEW CAMPUS DESIGN CHARETTE ON SEPTEMBER 26TH. I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW IT'S OKAY TO ATTEND THIS. UM, IF ANYONE WANTS TO, IT'S JUST, I'M TRYING TO GET IN TOUCH WITH, UM, THE GENTLEMAN WHO SENT THE INVITE SO I CAN SEE JUST HOW OPEN TO THE PUBLIC IT IS TO SEE IF I NEED TO POST IT. UM, BECAUSE A QUORUM MIGHT ATTEND. IF IT'S NOT SOMETHING I CAN POST AS A PUBLIC MEETING, I WOULD JUST ASK THAT IF ANYONE DOES ATTEND, KEEP TRACK OF HOW MANY OF Y'ALL ARE THERE. 'CAUSE WE WON'T BE ABLE TO HAVE A QUORUM OF YOU ALL THERE AND PARTICIPATING BECAUSE THIS WOULD BE PROBABLY CONSIDERED CITY BUSINESS. SO, AND THEN JUST REACH OUT TO ME IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU LAURA. ANY MORE? BUSINESS FOR THE CITY [04:30:01] PLANNING COMMISSION. THAT IS 5 0 5 AND THAT IS THE CLOSE OF OUR CITY PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING. THANK YOU. THANK Y'ALL. HAVE A GOOD ONE. 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