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          WELL, GOOD 
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MORNING EVERYBODY. 
          WELCOME TO THE HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE. 
          WE DO HAVE A QUORUM, AND WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED. 
          IT IS 9:09 AM AND, 
          [MINUTES]
UH, THE FIRST ITEM OF BUSINESS IS OUR MEETING MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 24TH, 2026 MEETING. 
          DO I HAVE A MOTION? THANK YOU. 
          I HAVE A, A MOTION AND A SECOND AND WE ARE READY TO GO BEFORE WE GET STARTED, HUH? NO DISCUSSION. 
          ANY DISCUSSION, ANY DISCUSSION ITEMS? ALL IN FAVOR A. 
          GREAT. 
          ANY OPPOSED MOTION? MOTION CARRIES. 
          THANK YOU GUYS. 
          UM, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO START THIS, THIS COMMITTEE. 
          I DO HAVE A FEW THINGS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY. 
          ASKED HOW I, I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THIS COMMITTEE FORWARD. 
          I WROTE 'EM ALL OUT. 
          I CAN'T FIND THEM, SO I'M GONNA HAVE TO GO FROM MY HEART. 
          I CAME FROM CORPORATE AMERICA WHERE I DID THINGS A DIFFERENT WAY. 
          I CAME FROM IT PROJECT MANAGEMENT, WHERE I DID THINGS, A PROJECT MANAGEMENT WAY. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, I ALWAYS LOOK TO SOLVE A PROBLEM. 
          SO WITH THIS COMMITTEE WILL BE DOING IS LOOKING TO SEE WHERE, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? HOW LARGE IS THE PROBLEM? THE PROBLEM IS THE SCOPE. 
          HOW LARGE IS THE PROBLEM? WHAT ARE THE TEAMS WE NEED TO RESOLVE THE PROBLEM? WHAT ARE THE RISK INHERENT OF SOLVING THE PROBLEM AND OR NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM? WHAT ARE THE MEASURED OUTCOMES WE'RE LOOKING TO COME UP WITH? WILL IT MEAN THAT THERE NEEDS TO BE A POLICY CHANGE, A POLICY REAFFIRMATION, OR WILL THERE BE A PROCESS CHANGE THAT WE'LL HAVE TO UNDERGO? IF THAT HAPPENS TO BE THAT, WE WILL MOVE THOSE ITEMS TO COUNSEL FOR FULL BRIEFING, AND THEN WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ISSUE OR THE NEXT CHANGE, THE NEXT PROBLEM WE NEED TO RE NEED TO SOLVE. 
          SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, 
          [BRIEFING ITEMS]
WE HAVE TWO BRIEFING ITEMS TODAY. 
          UM, THE FIRST BRIEFING ITEM IS AN UPDATE ON DALLAS' HOME, AND THAT WILL BE DONE BY OUR, UM, WELL, JAMES, WELL, THOR ERICKSON, OUR DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, AND JAMES ARMSTRONG, OUR DEPUTY DIRECTOR OF A HOUSING OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND IT'S UP TO, IT'S TO YOU GUYS. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, CHAIR, UH, BLAIR, AND CONGRATULATIONS ON YOUR APPOINTMENT TO COMMITTEE. 
          WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UM, ALWAYS STATING THE PROBLEM THAT WE'RE HERE TO ADDRESS AND SOME SOLUTIONS ON HOW TO, HOW TO ACHIEVE IT. 
          UM, COMMITTEE MEMBERS CHAIR. 
          UM, I AM THORAX AND DIRECTOR OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. 
          I'M JOINED BY DEPUTY DIRECTOR ARMSTRONG TODAY, WHO'S LEADING THE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS INTEGRATION EFFORTS WITHIN OUR OFFICE. 
          TODAY'S DALLAS, DALLAS' HOME UPDATE BUILDS ON THE FEEDBACK YOU SHARED LAST MONTH. 
          AT THAT TIME, WE INTRODUCED AN AMBITIOUS GOAL TO POSITIVELY IMPACT 55,000 HOUSEHOLDS OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS BY ADDRESSING THE FULL RANGE OF HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS NEEDS FACING THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          DALLAS' HOME ESTABLISHES THE OVERARCHING VISION, WHILE THE HOUSING RESOURCE CATALOG CONTAINS ALL THE PROGRAMS THAT WE USE TO CARRY OUT THAT VISION. 
          IN PARALLEL, WE'RE DEVELOPING A NEW ACTION PLAN TO UPDATE THE LAND ONE THAT WE HAD THAT ACCOMPANIED THE DALLAS HOUSING POLICY 33. 
          THAT ACTION PLAN WILL CARRY OUT THE SHORT, MID, AND LONG-TERM PRIORITIES. 
          THE STRUCTURE MIRRORS THE MOST RECENTLY ADOPTED POLICY AND ENSURE STAFF CAN EFFECTIVELY EXECUTE THE GUIDANCE PROVIDED BY YOU, THE POLICY MAKERS. 
          UH, OVER THE NEXT THREE MONTHS, WE'LL TAKE A DEEPER DIVE INTO THE PILLARS OUTLINED IN THIS POLICY. 
          UM, THE GOAL IS TO LOOK AT THE FOCUSED, INTERCONNECTED STRATEGIES AND THE WAY THAT WE CAN, UH, ACHIEVE SUCCESS BY EXAMINING THEM, UH, WITH THE NEW GOAL TO BRING THE POLICY FORWARD IN JANUARY. 
          SO TODAY'S UPDATE WILL PROVIDE, UM, A BETTER CONNECTION TO DATA, LOOKING AT SOME OF THE INITIAL ACTIONS, AND CONTINUE TO ELICIT YOUR FEEDBACK FOR THIS POLICY UPDATE AND ADOPTION. 
          WITH THAT, I TURN IT OVER TO DEPUTY DIRECTOR ARMSTRONG. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, DIRECTOR ERICKSON, AND THANK YOU COMMITTEE MEMBERS, UH, FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, TODAY WE'LL DISCUSS REALLY WHAT IS THE PURPOSE OF DALLAS'S HOME, OUR PROPOSED HOUSING POLICY. 
          WE'LL ALSO DISCUSS, UM, HOW WE ARE USING BASELINE DATA TO REALLY CAPTURE THE NEED. 
          UM, WE'LL TALK ABOUT MEASUREMENTS AND APPROACHES 
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AND HOW WE'RE GONNA REPORT. 
          UM, THEN WE'LL GO INTO THE DIALYSIS HOME STRATEGIES THROUGH OUR SEVEN PILLARS. 
          WE'LL ALSO DISCUSS GOALS, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND DELIVERY. 
          AND THEN DISCUSS NEXT STEPS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO WE, WE REALLY HAVE, UH, DONE A, UH, EXCELLENT JOB OF MOVING FORWARD FROM YOU ALL'S PAST, UH, FEEDBACK FROM LAST COMMITTEE. 
          WE REALLY DEFINED, UH, AND REFINED DALLAS'S HOME BASED ON PRIOR, UH, DIRECTION. 
          AND TODAY'S BRIEFING IS, UH, REALLY TO PRESENT THAT PROPOSED FRAMEWORK, UM, THE FIVE-YEAR GOAL AND OUR ACCOUNTABILITY APPROACH, UM, SEVERAL COMPONENTS. 
          IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT SEVERAL COMPONENTS REMAIN UNDER DEVELOPMENT AS WE CONTINUE TO PRESENT AND GET FEEDBACK. 
          UM, WE HOPE TO, UH, BRING THE FINAL PRODUCT BY JANUARY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, UM, FIRST AND FOREMOST, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE FOUNDATION, UM, FOR, UH, OF, OF DATA AND OUR MEASUREMENT APPROACH. 
          SO BEFORE WE DIVE INTO THE ACTION ITEMS AND, UH, OUR, OUR ACTION PLAN, WE WANT TO JUST LAY OUT CLEARLY HOW WE'RE USING DATA AND HOW WE'RE MEASURING OUR SUCCESS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          IN IMPACT. 
          SO WE'RE USING EXISTING REPORTS, UM, INTERDEPARTMENTAL PARTNERSHIPS AND AVAILABLE EXTERNAL REPORT, UH, REPORTS TO, UH, TO REALLY BRING TOGETHER, UM, ALL OF THE INFORMATION, UH, NEEDED TO GET A BASELINE UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE ARE, UM, SO THAT WE CAN KNOW EXACTLY WHERE, WHERE TO GO. 
          UM, OUR PARTNERSHIPS WITH THE DATA ANALYTICS AND BUSINESS INTELLIGENCE, UM, WILL HELP US VALIDATE THINGS LIKE PERMITTING AND CONSTRUCTION AND HOUSING ACTIVITY BY COUNCIL DISTRICT. 
          AND REALLY THIS BASELINE IS AIMED TO SUPPORT THE PERFORMANCE MEASURES INCLUDED IN THE FY 27 BUDGET AND, UH, PROVIDE A CONSISTENT FOUNDATION FOR, FOR FUTURE REPORTING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO AGAIN, MEASUREMENT AND REPORTING APPROACH. 
          UM, ESTABLISHING THAT BASELINE, UH, UH, AND DOING THINGS LIKE HOW DO YOU APPLY COMMON DEFINITIONS AND, UH, DISTINGUISH PER, UH, PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION AND ASSISTANCE AND HOMELESSNESS OUTCOMES. 
          UH, WE'LL ALSO SEPARATE CITY SUPPORTED RESULTS FROM THE BROADER MARKET ACTIVITY. 
          WE THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT TO NOTE, UM, THE THINGS THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN. 
          WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR OUR, OUR DOLLAR? AND THIS WILL ALLOW COUNCIL TO SEE, UM, WHAT THE CITY'S BUDGET AND PROGRAMS DIRECTLY SUPPORT. 
          AND WE WILL, UH, FIGURES WILL REMAIN PRELIMINARY UNTIL, UH, STAFF COMPLETES ON, UH, RECONCILIATION AND VALIDATION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE CENTRAL ISSUE IS THAT HOUSING COSTS CONTINUE TO OUTPACE INCOMES, AND DALLAS ALSO FACES A SHORTAGE OF DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING, UH, LIMITED HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES AND CONTINUED PRESSURE ON HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE SYSTEMS. UH, THESE CONDITIONS, UH, INFORM THE PRIORITIES INCLUDED IN THE FY 27 BUDGET AND THE PROPOSED DALLAS HOME WORK FRAMEWORK. 
          UH, THE THING TO LOOK AT OR TO CONSIDER WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE CHALLENGES AND THESE NUMBERS THAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE, IS THAT IT REALLY DOES JUST CREATE AN ENVIRONMENT OF INSTABILITY, UM, FOR OUR MOST VULNERABLE WAGE EARNERS. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE GOAL FOR, FOR, FOR DALLAS'S HOME IS HOW DO WE CREATE HOUSING STABILITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          WE HAVE AN AMBITIOUS GOAL, 55,000 DALLAS HOUSEHOLDS. 
          HOW ARE WE IMPROVING HOUSING STABILITY, UM, FOR THAT NUMBER OF HOUSEHOLDS? THIS GOAL REALLY INCLUDES A BROAD RANGE OF ACTIVITIES. 
          THINGS LIKE HOUSING, RENTAL, HOUSING, HOME OWNERSHIP, PRESERVATION, UH, HOMELESS RESPONSE, UH, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, COMMUNITY SERVICE SUPPORT. 
          UH, ALL OF THESE OUTCOMES REALLY CONTRIBUTE TO HOW DO CONTRIBUTE TO INCREASING STABILITY FOR, UH, HOUSING STABILITY FOR OUR RESIDENTS. 
          UH, THIS IS A PLANNING ESTIMATE, UH, NOT A NEW FUNDING COMMITMENT. 
          UM, ANNUAL IMPLEMENTATION WILL REMAIN SUBJECT TO ADOPTED BUDGETS AND AVAILABLE FUNDING AND PARTNER CAPACITY. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO NOW WE'RE GONNA GET INTO THE 
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ACTUAL DALLAS' HOME. 
          SO WE'VE SORT OF LAID OUT THE GROUNDWORK OF HOW THE, WHAT DATA WE ARE USING, HOW WE'RE GONNA USE THAT DATA. 
          NEXT IS OUR, IS OUR STRATEGY. 
          UM, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE HAVE, UM, SEVEN PROPOSED ORGANIZATIONAL STRATEGIES, WHICH ARE, WE CALL PILLARS. 
          AND THE FRAMEWORK REALLY COVERS THE, THE FULL HOUSING CONTINUUM FROM HOMELESSNESS RESPONSE TO HOUSING STABILITY, TO FAIR HOUSING SYSTEMS TO COLLABORATION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, IT ALSO RECOGNIZES THAT HOUSING OUTCOMES REALLY DEPEND ON FAIR ACCESS AND INFRASTRUCTURE AND NEIGHBORHOOD CONDITIONS AND COORDINATIONS WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS AND PARTNERS. 
          UM, IT'S A HOLISTIC APPROACH, UH, TO ADDRESSING HOUSING NEED WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT HOUSING SOLVING HOUSING NEED IS NOT JUST PURELY PRODUCTION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, HIGH LEVEL, THIS IS OUR ACTION PLAN. 
          UM, WE UNDERSTAND THE NEED BY FOUNDATIONAL DATA. 
          WE HAVE CRAFTED THE PILLARS BASED UPON FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL AND PARTNERS. 
          WE HAVE DEFINED MEASURABLE GOALS, AND NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT ACTIONS. 
          UM, EACH PART OF THIS ACTION PLAN BEGINS WITH THE DEFINED NEED. 
          UM, AND THEN WE ALIGN THAT NEED WITH THE PILLAR, ESTABLISH MEASURABLE GOALS AND IDENTIFY THE ACTIONS AND RESOURCES REQUIRED. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH EACH OF THESE PILLARS. 
          UM, WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO DO IS FOCUS ON THE ACTION, UH, PORTION, UH, SINCE THAT WAS THE FEEDBACK FROM THIS COMMITTEE. 
          UM, SO NEXT SLIDE. 
          IF YOU SEE ON PAGE 12, THIS REALLY DEALS WITH, UH, OUR EXPANDING HOUSING CHOICE THROUGH, UH, PRODUCTION. 
          SO HOW CAN WE INCREASE RENTAL OWNERSHIP, TRANSITIONAL, UH, SUPPORTIVE AND ATTAINABLE HOUSING ACROSS DALLAS? HERE'S WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO. 
          WE'RE GONNA PRIORITIZE FUNDING FOR DEEPLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING. 
          WE'RE GONNA ADVANCE ONE TO THREE CITY OWNED SITES ANNUALLY. 
          WE'RE GONNA LEVERAGE PARTNERSHIPS TO PRODUCE MIXED INCOME NEIGHBORHOODS WHILE EXPANDING HOUSING TYPES THROUGH ZONING, UH, TODS AND INNOVATIVE AREAS, AND HIGH OPPORTUNITY AREAS AND AREAS NEEDING REVITALIZATION BASED UPON COUNCIL FEEDBACK AND DATA. 
          UH, BASELINE DATA THAT WE'VE PULLED. 
          UH, WE BELIEVE THAT, UH, THESE DISTRICTS IN THE BOX TO YOUR BOTTOM RIGHT, UH, REALLY COULD BENEFIT FROM A FOCUSED STRATEGY ON PRODUCTION. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          NEXT IS ALL ABOUT CITYWIDE PRESERVATION. 
          UM, WE KNOW, UH, AND WE HAVE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY THAT WE CAN NEVER DIG OURSELF OUT OF THE, UH, SUPPLY, UH, LACK, UM, IF WE'RE LOSING OUR SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING FASTER THAN WE CAN BUILD IT. 
          UM, SO IF YOU LOOK ON THIS SLIDE, HOW WILL WE PROTECT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REDUCE DISPLACEMENT? UM, BEFORE EXISTING SUPPLIES LOST? UH, WE PLAN TO ESTABLISH AN AT-RISK PROPERTY WATCH LIST FOR SINGLE AND MULTIFAMILY. 
          WE PLAN TO CONTACT MULTIFAMILY PROPERTY OWNERS BEFORE RESTRICTIONS EXPIRE. 
          THAT IS A GREAT, UH, GREAT STRATEGY. 
          UNDERSTANDING THOSE UNITS THAT ARE COMING OFF OF THE AFFORDABILITY LINE, AND HOW CAN WE EXTEND THAT AFFORDABILITY OR REDEVELOP IN A WAY, UH, CAPTURE ENTITLEMENTS, REDEVELOP IN A WAY THAT WE MAINTAIN THOSE UNITS, AND IN SOME CASES EVEN INCLUDE ADDITIONAL, UH, UNITS TO THE DEVELOPMENT. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE NEXT STRATEGY IS AROUND DATA-DRIVEN NEIGHBORHOOD INVESTMENTS, RIGHT? UM, HOW CAN WE LOOK AT THE DATA THAT'S BEFORE US THAT'S PRESENTED AND ADDRESS THE NEED BASED UPON, BASED UPON THAT DATA? SO HOUSING CONDITIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES VARY ACROSS THE 14 COUNCIL DISTRICTS. 
          A CITYWIDE STRATEGY WILL NOT ADDRESS EVERY DISTRICT'S NEED, AND WE THINK THAT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT. 
          SO HOW DO WE USE VERIFIED DISTRICT DATA? THE DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY FRAMEWORK AND RESIDENT INPUT TO IDENTIFY PRIORITIES? AND THIS APPROACH WE HOPE WILL HELP COORDINATE HOUSING RESOURCES WITH COMMUNITY SERVICES AND OTHER NEIGHBORHOOD INVESTMENTS. 
          AND WE HEAR THIS ALL THE TIME, RIGHT? WE HEAR SOMETIMES DATA SAY ONE THING, NEIGHBORHOOD FEEDBACK IS ANOTHER. 
          HOW DO WE PUT THAT ALL TOGETHER AND REALLY CREATE, UH, A STRATEGY IN 
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THESE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT WILL ADDRESS THE NEED? NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, IMPROVE HOUSING STABILITY THROUGH HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          UM, THIS INCLUDES THINGS LIKE PREVENTING HOUSING LOSS AND CONNECT RESIDENTS ACROSS A HOUSING AND A HOMELESS CONTINUUM. 
          UH, ONE OF THE BIGGEST BENEFITS OF THE MERGER OF OUR OFFICE IS NOW WE'RE ABLE TO LOOK AT HOUSING, UH, AS PREVIOUSLY SAID, THROUGH AN ENTIRE CONTINUUM, RIGHT? IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PRODUCTION, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT PRESERVATION, BUT HOUSING STABILITY, UH, UH, INCLUDES MORE THAN JUST HOUSING, RIGHT? UM, AND SO IT INCLUDES THINGS LIKE RENTAL ASSISTANCE AND, UM, INCLUDING THINGS LIKE HOME AFTER SHELTER AND RETURN TO HOME, AND ALL OF THESE SOCIAL, UH, SERVICES AND COMMUNITY CENTERED PROGRAMMINGS. 
          OUR PLANS HERE ARE TO EXPAND PREVENTION, DIVERSION, LEGAL AID, AND FLEXIBLE ASSISTANCE. 
          IT'S INCREASED TO INCREASE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PLACEMENTS, STRENGTHEN HOUSING RETENTION, AND, UH, TENNESSEE SUPPORT, EXPAND LANDLORD ENGAGEMENT AND SUPPORT HOME OWNERSHIP PATHWAYS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          THE FIFTH IS EXPAND FAIR HOUSING. 
          UH, FAIR ACCESS. 
          AND THIS IS SEEN THROUGH OUR FAIR HOUSING SYSTEMS AND OUR FAIR HOUSING DIVISION. 
          UM, IT'S REALLY ALL ABOUT MAKING HOUSING INFORMATION, ACCESS COMPLAINTS, REFERRALS AND ENFORCEMENT MORE ACCESSIBLE. 
          AND WE'VE TAKEN THAT FEEDBACK. 
          AND, UM, OUR FAIR HOUSING TEAM HAS BEEN IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          I BELIEVE THEY'VE HAD THREE, UH, COMMUNITY EVENTS, UH, COMMUNITY POP UP, UH, IN LOCAL LIBRARIES AND COMMUNITY CENTERS. 
          OUR ACTION IS TO CONTINUE TO CREATE A SINGLE PUBLIC FACING PATHWAY FOR RESIDENTS TO REPORT INCIDENTS AND REDUCE CASE PROCESSING TIMES TO PROVIDE LANGUAGE ACCESSIBLE, UH, CULTURALLY RESPONSIVE SERVICES TO REDUCE BARRIERS AND HOUSING PROCESSES, AND CONNECT COMPLAINTS TO ENFORCEMENT AND LEGAL ASSISTANCE. 
          WE'VE HAD GREAT SUCCESS IN OUR FAIR HOUSING DIVISION, UM, PREPARING TO RECEIVE ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THIS NEXT CALENDAR YEAR DUE TO, UH, INCREASE IN, UM, AND CASE PROCESSING. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO OUR SIX PILLAR IS ALL ABOUT INFRASTRUCTURE ALIGNMENT. 
          UM, NOTICE IT DOESN'T JUST SAY INFRASTRUCTURE DEVELOPMENT. 
          UH, HOW DO WE COORDINATE TRANSPORTATION, UTILITIES, FACILITIES, ENVIRONMENTAL WORK AND CAPITAL, AND INVESTMENTS WITH HOUSING PRIORITIES, RIGHT? SO OUR PLANS HERE REALLY IS TO ESTABLISH A STANDARD SITE READINESS EVALUATION, UH, TO CONFIRM OWNERSHIP, TITLE, ZONING AND ENVIRONMENTAL CONDITIONS, ACCESS UTILITIES AND STREETS AND DRAINAGE AND TRANSIT BEFORE SOLICITATION. 
          SO DOING THAT PRE-WORK SO THAT WHEN THE PROPERTY IS TRANSFERRED TO THE DEVELOPER, UM, THAT IT'S READY. 
          AND, UH, COST IS NOT SKYROCKETED BECAUSE OF, UH, INFRASTRUCTURE ISSUES. 
          AND AGAIN, WE SEE, UH, BASED UPON PRELIMINARY DATA, WE SEE THAT, UH, THIS STRATEGY COULD, UM, REALLY, UH, MOVE THE NEEDLE IN THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE LISTED BELOW. 
          SO THIS WILL HELP THE CITY REALLY AVOID DELAYS AND MAKE BETTER USE OF HOUSING INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT RESOURCES. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE FINAL PILLAR OR STRATEGY, WHICH IS DEFINITELY NOT, IT'S THE LAST, BUT NOT THE LEAST, IS THE COLLABORATION AND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          SO HOW DO WE CREATE SHARED OWNERSHIP, UH, RESIDENT INFLUENCED AND PUBLIC ACCOUNTABILITY ACROSS THE HOUSING ECOSYSTEM? SO HERE'S WHAT WE ARE PLANNING TO DO, AND SOME OF THESE THINGS ARE ALREADY IN THE WORKS. 
          UH, ESTABLISH A WORK GROUP FOR HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS FOR OHCE LED BOARDS AND COMMISSION MEMBERS. 
          THIS IS SOMETHING THAT I THINK IS, IS REALLY TRANSFORMATIVE. 
          INSTEAD OF USING OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS GROUPS OR BODIES TO GIVE, UH, FEEDBACK OR, OR, OR SURFACE LEVEL FEEDBACK, WE'RE REALLY USING THESE AS OUR ADVISORY, UH, GROUPS. 
          WE'VE ALREADY HAD ONE MEETING WITH ALL THE CHAIRS OF THE SEVEN, UH, OR THE EIGHT, UH, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS THAT WE MANAGE. 
          AND, UH, WE'RE FORMING THAT PRACTICE OF MEETING REGULARLY, GETTING THEIR FEEDBACK AND INCORPORATING THEIR FEEDBACK INTO OUR, OUR POLICY AND PLANS. 
          UH, WE PLAN TO FORMALIZE A CITY AND PARTNER DELIVERY ROLE, PUBLISH AN ANNUAL ENGAGEMENT CALENDAR, UM, PROVIDE ACCESSIBLE AND MULTILINGUAL, UH, LINGUAL AVENUES FOR PARTICIPATION. 
          AND WHAT I'M MOST PROUD OF IS ESTABLISH A FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE TO ACTIVATE LAND OPPORTUNITIES AND 
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LEVERAGE FEDERAL RESOURCES. 
          AS YOU ALL KNOW, OUR FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS, UH, REALLY SHIFTED, UM, ITS FOCUS, UM, A LOT OF ITS FOCUS, UH, TO, UH, FAITH-BASED, UH, PARTNERSHIPS. 
          AND WE WANT TO BE PART OF THAT NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO, VERY QUICKLY, WE'LL GO OVER OUR GOALS, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND DELIVERY. 
          THIS SECTION REALLY EXPLAINS HOW WE WILL TRANSLATE THE PROPOSED FRAMEWORK INTO MEASURABLE RESULTS AND REGULAR COUNCIL OVERSIGHT. 
          WE WANT YOU ALL TO BE PARTNERS. 
          SO, AGAIN, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          THIS 55,000 HOUSEHOLD GOAL PROVIDES AN INITIAL, UH, ALLOCATION ACROSS RENTAL, HOUSING, HOME OWNERSHIP AND PRESERVATION. 
          SO THIS SLIDE REALLY BREAKS DOWN HOW WE PLAN TO ACHIEVE THE 55,000, UH, HOUSING STABILITY GOAL. 
          SO WE BELIEVE THAT 7,000 OF THOSE UNITS, UH, ON AN ANNUAL BASIS WILL COME FROM RENTAL PRODUCTION AND STABILITY, HOME OWNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES, 3,500 AND THEN PRESERVATION 500. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO THE GOAL, THE BROAD, BROADER GOAL IS REALLY TO IMPROVE HOUSING STABILITY, SAFETY, AND HOUSEHOLD WELLBEING. 
          THE FISCAL YIELD 27 BUDGET SUPPORTS THIS WORK THROUGH HOUSING PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION, HOMELESSNESS SERVICES, RENTAL ASSISTANCE, COMMUNITY SERVICE PROGRAMMING, SERVING YOUTH AND OLDER ADULTS. 
          THESE SERVICES REALLY SHOULD BE EVALUATED BASED ON THE OUTCOMES THEY PRODUCE, NOT ONLY THE NUMBER OF ACTIVITIES COMPLETED. 
          SO THIS IS THE NEXT, UH, LEVEL OF, OF, UH, BRINGING ACCOUNTABILITY, UH, TO NOT ONLY THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'RE MAKING, UM, BUT THE ACTIVITY THAT WE, THAT WE'RE, THAT WE DO AS A DEPARTMENT, AS AN OFFICE. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO OHCE WILL LEAD IMPLEMENTATION, BUT DELIVERY REALLY WILL REQUIRE COORDINATION ACROSS DEPARTMENTS WITH EXTERNAL PARTNERS. 
          UM, AND SO HERE YOU SEE JUST A, UM, PROPOSED ACCOUNTABILITY AND PERFORMANCE FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, REALLY HOW DO WE IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM? UM, WHAT ARE THOSE APPROACHES? ESTABLISHING THOSE BASELINE UNDERSTANDINGS AND FACTS BASED UPON DATA. 
          HOW DO WE ALIGN, UM, UH, OUR WORK WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS, UM, THAT MAY NOT HAVE, UH, DIRECT, UH, HOUSING, UH, ACTIVITY, BUT ARE DEFINITELY, UM, UH, PART OF THE PROCESS FOR BRINGING HOUSING, UH, UM, TO, TO THE FOREFRONT, UM, THE BENEFITS, UM, THE DECISIONS, OUTCOMES. 
          AND THEN FOLLOW UP. 
          NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          HERE'S OUR PROPOSED, UM, REPORTING PROGRESS. 
          UM, WE'RE PROPOSING MONTHLY REVIEW, REVIEW OF MILESTONES, DATA, UM, AND IMPLEMENTATION RISKS. 
          UH, THE ANNUAL REPORT. 
          UH, SO WE HAVE MONTHLY, WE HAVE QUARTERLY COMMITTEE UPDATES, UM, REPORTING PROGRESS AGAINST ESTABLISHED MEASURES AND TARGETS. 
          UH, AND THEN OUR ANNUAL REPORT WILL COMPARE RESULTS, UM, WITH A FIVE YEAR GOAL AND HOW PERFORMANCE AT BOTH THE CITYWIDE AND, UH, AND SHOW PERFORMANCE AT BOTH THE CITYWIDE AND DISTRICT LEVELS. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          FINALLY, HERE ARE NEXT STEPS, UM, UM, ESTABLISH, UM, REALLY, UH, WILL CONTINUE TO VALIDATE, UH, THE BASELINE AND FINALIZE THE MEASURES DEVELOPING AS WE DEVELOP THE WRITTEN POLICY. 
          WE WILL CONTINUE AND TO COME BACK TO THE COMMITTEE, UM, OCTOBER, NOVEMBER, DECEMBER TO REALLY DIVE INTO THOSE PILLARS. 
          UM, AND THEN THE GOAL IS TO INCORPORATE ALL OF THE FEEDBACK AND RETURN TO COUNCIL JANUARY OF 2027. 
          NEXT SLIDE. 
          AND WITH THAT, WE'LL TAKE QUESTIONS. 
          THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. 
          UM, MR. ERICKSON AND MR. ARMSTRONG, UH, I THINK I'LL START ON MY, MY LEFT, UH, WITH MR. SADE. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, THANK Y'ALL FOR YOUR PRESENTATION. 
          UM, I KNOW THE DETAILS WILL KEEP DEVELOPING THROUGH THE PILLAR BRIEFINGS THIS FALL, BUT I HAVE A A FEW QUESTIONS JUST TO GET MORE FAMILIAR WITH THE FRAMEWORK. 
          UM, I NOTICED THAT DISTRICT SEVEN IS LISTED AS A, AS SUPPORTING RATHER THAN PRIMARY FOCUS UNDER THE CITYWIDE PRODUCTION, 
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UH, BUT PRIMARY FOCUS FOR BOTH PRESERVATION AND HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. 
          CAN YOU WALK THROUGH WHAT DATA DROVE THAT SPLIT? UH, AND I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHETHER THAT REFLECTS ACTUAL HOUSING CONDITIONS IN THE DISTRICT, OR GAPS IN CURRENT BASELINE. 
          SO WE'VE BROUGHT THE IDEA OF WHAT WE, WHAT WE'RE CALLING A PROPOSED MAP BOOK THAT REALLY LOOKS AT CENSUS DATA, UM, AND A FEW OTHER DATA SOURCES TO REALLY GET A PROFILE OF EACH DISTRICT. 
          AND SO IT'S BASED UPON CENSUS DATA. 
          UM, BUT I CAN TELL YOU FROM WHAT I KNOW ABOUT DISTRICT SEVEN PIECES, UM, BIG AREAS LIKE SOUTH DALLAS, THAT IS A MAJORITY RENTER, UH, COMMUNITY, NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, PRESERVATION IS GONNA BE IMPORTANT. 
          UM, RIGHT? UH, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT PRODUCTION, YOU'RE LOOKING AT IS THERE AVAILABLE LAND, RIGHT? FOR PRODUCTION? UM, UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT, UH, CURRENT STOCK. 
          WHAT IS THE CURRENT STOCK OF HOUSING? UM, IS THERE A OP AN OPPORTUNITY TO PRESERVE A LOT OF THE EXISTING HOUSING THAT COULD, UH, UH, BE SUPPLIED FOR, UM, THE INCOME IN THAT AREA? AND SO, UH, THAT'S KIND OF WHY, HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU, UM, WHEN WE FINALIZE THE MAP BOOK TO REALLY DIG INTO THE DATA, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT IT ALIGNS WITH, UH, WHAT, YOU KNOW, ON THE GROUND. 
          AND NEXT MONTH'S PRESENTATION WILL FOCUS ON PRODUCTION AND PRESERVATION, THE FIRST TWO PILLARS, AND WE'LL, WE'LL SHOWCASE SOME OF THAT DATA THAT LEADS US TO THIS. 
          AND BY NO MEANS DOES THIS MEAN THAT NO PRODUCTION HAPPENS, RIGHT? IT, IT'S MORE OF, UM, LOOKING AT IT FROM A DATA STANDPOINT, WHAT ARE THE OPPORTUNITIES OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS FROM AN AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND HOMELESS STRATEGIES POINT OF VIEW? UM, AND OF COURSE, THERE'S ALWAYS ROOM TO ADJUST, ESPECIALLY AS WE DIVE IN AND, UH, PER EACH DISTRICT, IF, UM, YOU MIGHT HAVE A DIFFERENT GOAL OR ALIGNMENT, WE CAN, UH, INCORPORATE THAT FEEDBACK AND MAKE SURE THAT THE PLANS ARE COHESIVE AND MOVING FORWARD TOGETHER. 
          UH, I JUST JUST WANNA BE CLEAR, I, I UNDERSTAND CITYWIDE STRATEGY, AND I'M NOT JUST FOCUSED ON DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          I JUST HAPPEN TO REPRESENT DISTRICT SEVEN AND UNDERSTAND THE, UH, MASS AMOUNT OF VACANCY THAT WE HAVE AND THE INFILL OPPORTUNITY. 
          AND FOR US TO NOT BE, UH, REALLY HIGHLIGHTING ANY DISTRICT THAT HAS SUCH AN OPPORTUNITY TO, UM, BRING IN PRODUCTION, UM, TO ME IS, IS IS ONE OF THOSE, UH, DOUBLE-EDGED SWORDS ON LEANING TOO FAR INTO THE DATA BECAUSE THE DATA'S NOT GOING TO, UH, HIGHLIGHT THOSE, UM, UH, SPECIFICS THAT I, I BELIEVE ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT AS THE DATA YOU JUST, UM, OUTLINE. 
          SO I WOULD, I WOULD ASK THAT THERE BE SOME SORT OF CROSS REFERENCE, UH, WITH, UM, OTHER DATA SETS SPECIFICALLY TO THE, UH, THE VACANCIES THAT EXIST, THE, UM, WORK THAT, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING RIGHT NOW TO DIG INTO THE PORTFOLIO OF OUR, UM, UH, CITY ASSETS, CITY OWNED LOTS, ET CETERA. 
          UM, BUT I I, I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULDN'T LET DATA DRIVE US TO, UM, FOCUS AREAS THAT HAVE MUCH MORE SCARCE LAND OPPORTUNITY FOR PRODUCTION. 
          UM, NUMBER, UH, TWO IS THE, UH, 55 YEAR, 55,000 HOUSEHOLD GOAL, UM, OVER A FIVE YEAR PERIOD. 
          UM, I DON'T SEE A CONSOLIDATED COST ESTIMATE ACROSS THE SEVEN PILLARS. 
          UM, AND ARE, ARE WE BEING ASKED TO ADOPT THIS IN JANUARY WITHOUT THAT, OR ARE WE EXPECTED TO GET A FULL COMPREHENSIVE OUTLOOK ON WHAT THE FISCAL NOTE WOULD BE TO ACCOMPLISH THESE GOALS AND WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE IN A FIVE YEAR, UH, FORECAST BEFORE THE VOTE? YEAH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          I THINK IN REFLECTION OF OUR LAST POLICY, THERE WAS, UH, THERE WAS A TIE TO BUDGET AND BOND AND, UM, WE KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT CYCLE AND COSTS CONTINUE TO CHANGE. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS WE WANT TO DO IS SHOW YOU WHAT'S ALREADY IN THE BUDGET. 
          SO IN ADDITION TO THESE PRESENTATIONS, WE ALSO HAVE THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS COMING UP WHERE WE SHOW THE RESOURCES, UH, TIED TO THE DIVERSION AND THE SHELTERS AND, UH, ALL THE BOND MONEY WE HAVE, ALL OF THE CDBG FUNDS THAT WE HAVE, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING THE FUNDING ALONG WITH THE NEEDS TO SHOW WHERE WE ARE. 
          UM, IT IS REALLY IMPORTANT TO KNOW THAT THESE GOALS RELY HEAVILY ON PARTNERSHIPS, UH, RELY ON PRODUCTION OF THE PFC AND HFC, UH, RELY ON THE LAND BANK BEING MODERNIZED AND PERFORMING, RELY ON OTHER PRIVATE DEVELOPERS WORKING IN THIS SPACE AS PART OF MIXED INCOME DEVELOPMENTS THAT MIGHT NOT BE SEEKING CITY INCENTIVES. 
          AND SO THAT, THAT GOAL IS A CAPTURING OF EVERYTHING WE NEED 
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TO DO, BUT WE WILL SHOWCASE WHAT OUR RESOURCES CAN GO TO AS PART OF THE VISION AS WE, UM, WE BRING THE FURTHER DETAILS FORWARD OVER THE NEXT COUPLE MONTHS. 
          BUT YOU WON'T BE ADOPTING ANYTHING WITHOUT UNDERSTANDING WHERE THE CURRENT BUDGETS ARE AT AND WHAT, WHAT THE RESOURCES ARE NEEDED TO ACCOMPLISH IT FOR, FOR SUSTAINABILITY CONCERNS. 
          IS IT, WOULD YOU BE WILLING TO BRING FORWARD, WHEN YOU DO TALK ABOUT OUR OWN FISCAL NODE AND RESPONSIBILITY, WHAT THOSE OTHER MIX-INS WOULD NEED TO BE HITTING METRICS WISE IN ORDER FOR IT TO BE A SUSTAINABLE, UM, GOAL TO REACH? BECAUSE I DO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE DIFFERENT VARIABLES, BUT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO BE VERY, UH, EXPLICIT AND, AND INTENTIONAL ON HITTING CERTAIN METRICS IN ORDER FOR THE LACK OF SOME OF THE OTHER PARTNER'S PARTICIPATIONS OR PRODUCTION, UM, TO STILL MEET OUR GOALS. 
          AND I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY HELPFUL AS WE GO THROUGH EACH YEAR AND EACH PILLAR AND THE SALES OF BONDS, ET CETERA, TO UNDERSTAND IF WE'RE HITTING THOSE GOALS AND NOT JUST COMPLETELY FOCUS ON US AND LEAVE THESE MISNOMERS, UH, OUT TO BE THE VARIABLES. 
          YES, SIR. 
          WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE COMMITTED TO CAPTURING THAT TO THE BEST THAT WE CAN. 
          UH, ONE THING WE KNOW IS THE PIPELINE OF THE CORPORATIONS. 
          ONE THING WE KNOW IS THE GENERAL PERMITS THAT ARE BEING PULLED AND GENERAL PRICE POINTS OF THOSE DEVELOPMENTS. 
          AND THROUGH THE PARTNERSHIP THAT, UH, JAMES TALKED ABOUT WITH, YOU KNOW, DBI, WE'LL HAVE A BETTER UNIVERSE OF HOUSING IN GENERAL, BUT OUR MAIN FOCUS STILL RELIES SOLELY ON THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING SECTION OF THAT AND PERMIT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS. 
          BUT WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO CAPTURE MAYBE THE, THE WIDER UNIVERSE OF HOUSING PRODUCTION AS WELL IN THE CITY. 
          UM, THE THOUSAND ADDITIONAL SHELTER BEDS IS SOMETHING I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF, SOMETHING I THINK WE'RE VERY BEHIND ON, UH, VERY THANKFUL FOR THIS BEING A PRIORITY. 
          UM, IS THERE ANY, UH, TIMELINE THAT WE CAN EXPECT TO SEE IDENTIFIED SITES? AND THEN AS THOSE, UH, SITES ARE BEING WORKED TO IDENTIFY, ARE THERE GONNA, IS THERE GONNA BE DIRECT, UH, COLLABORATION WITH COUNCIL DISTRICTS DEPENDING ON, UH, THE GEO GEOGRAPHIC LOCATION OF THEM? THANK YOU. 
          SO IN OUR STATE OF HOMELESSNESS PRESENTATION THAT WE'RE PUTTING TOGETHER, WE'RE OUTLINING ALL OF OUR ASSETS, ALL OF OUR OPPORTUNITIES, ALL OF OUR FUNDING, AND WE'LL BE PRESENTING TO YOU SOME DIFFERENT, UH, VARIATIONS OF OPTIONS OF WHAT WE COULD LOOK FOR TO ACHIEVE THIS FIVE YEAR VISION. 
          SO IT, IT COINCIDES TOGETHER. 
          AND SO WE'LL BRING AS MUCH INFORMATION AS WE CAN TO INFORM YOU ALL AS POLICY MAKERS TO HELP GUIDE ON WHAT THOSE DECISIONS SHOULD BE, UM, SO WE CAN GO MAKE THOSE PROJECTS HAPPEN. 
          MADAM CHAIR, I JUST ASK THAT, UH, THROUGH THIS PROCESS, THIS, IT OFTEN BECOMES A VERY POLITICALLY CONTENTIOUS, UH, PROCESS. 
          AND IT'S ONE THAT, UM, UH, REALLY IS CONTROLLED BY, UM, A MINDSET OF A FIEFDOM AND, AND, AND INDIVIDUALS, UM, REALLY HAVING TO GUARD UP, UH, ON THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS. 
          I BELIEVE IF WE'RE GONNA HAVE CITYWIDE GOALS LAID OUT IN PILLARS, THAT THESE SHOULD BE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAD, ARE, ARE HAD WITH, AT THE VERY LEAST THIS COMMITTEE AND NOT HAVE DECISIONS BEING MADE BEHIND CLOSED DOORS WITH INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS. 
          I THINK THAT, UH, WE HAVE TO START GETTING PAST THE SILOS THAT WE WORK IN, IN THESE ARBITRARY BOUNDARIES THAT WE, THAT WE HAVE OUR DISTRICTS IN. 
          AND IF WE'RE GOING TO TRULY LOOK AT THIS BEING A SUCCESSFUL MODEL, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PUSH, UH, AGAINST EVEN SOME OF SOMETIMES THE POLITICAL WILL, UH, THAT'S GOING TO PREVENT US FROM ACCOMPLISHING THESE GOALS JUST BECAUSE OF THOSE POLITICS. 
          UM, MR. BDU, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH WORKING OUTSIDE OF SILOS. 
          I HATE SILOS BECAUSE IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU A TRUE PICTURE. 
          I HAVE ASKED THAT WE BE MORE HOLISTIC IN THE WAY WE DO THINGS. 
          THAT WAY WE CAN LOOK AT THINGS OUTSIDE OF THE, THE BOX THAT WE NORMALLY SIT IN. 
          UM, AND YES, I, THE, THE GOAL IS NOT TO BE, NOT TO POLITICIZE ANY OF THE ANSWERS, BUT TO WORK HOLISTICALLY WITH EVERYBODY, STAFF, OUR PART, BUSINESS PARTNERS, EACH OTHER DISTRICTS IN ORDER TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES EACH THING WORK. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I APPRECIATE THE, UM, THE APPROACH. 
          I, I REALLY THINK IT'S GONNA TAKE A TEAM, UH, MINDSET FOR THIS TO BE, UH, AN ACCOMPLISHABLE GOAL. 
          I THINK WE, WE ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO HAVE IT SILOED OUT INTO DISTRICT. 
          SO I DO LOVE THAT IT'S BROKEN DOWN SO THAT WE CAN HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING, BUT WE'VE GOTTA GET PAST THE, UH, THE, THE TRADITIONAL BARRIERS THAT ARE PREVENTING US FROM, UH, SPREADING RESOURCES GEOGRAPHICALLY THROUGHOUT OUR CITY. 
          AND, UH, A LOT OF THAT COMES DOWN TO THE POLITICAL WILL. 
          SO WHEN THOSE SITES ARE IDENTIFIED, IF THAT'S BEING DONE IN A VERY TRANSPARENT WAY, AND ONE THAT IS, UH, ALLOWS FOR US TO SPEAK ABOUT THIS ON RECORD, UM, AS A COMMITTEE, UM, AT THE VERY LEAST, INSTEAD OF THERE BEING A STOP GAP AFTER A CONVERSATION THAT YOU HAVE IN AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON'S 
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COUNSEL, UH, OFFICE, AND, AND IT NEVER MAKES IT TO THIS, UH, I, I WOULD, I WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE FOR THAT TO BE A PART OF THE MODEL. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, MAYOR PRO TEMP. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          JUST HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          THANK Y'ALL FOR THE INFORMATION AND THE PRESENTATION. 
          I'M WONDERING WHAT EXACTLY DOES IT MEAN FOR A HOUSEHOLD TO BE CONSIDERED STABILIZED? THAT'S A REALLY GREAT QUESTION. 
          UM, TO ME, WE, WE LOOK AT A FEW THINGS. 
          HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING, UH, FROM THEIR INCOME ON RENT OR ON THEIR MORTGAGE? UH, WE TYPICALLY ALWAYS LOOK AT HOUSEHOLDS PAYING LESS THAN 30% AS BEING MORE STABLE. 
          UH, IT'S AN, IT'S AN ECONOMIC DRIVEN SIDE, BUT WE ALSO KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE THINGS IN THAT HOUSEHOLD, UH, THE AGE OF THAT PO UH, OF THAT HOUSEHOLD. 
          THEY MIGHT NEED ADDITIONAL SERVICES. 
          THEY MIGHT HAVE BEEN RECENTLY UNSHELTERED, AND NOW THEY HAVE SOME SERVICES AS THEY BECOME HOUSED AGAIN. 
          SO EVERY HOUSEHOLD IS, IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT, BUT WE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT, UM, WE CAN'T LOOK AT ECONOMICS ALONE. 
          WE CAN'T LOOK AT JUST THE PRICE THAT YOU'RE PAYING ON RENT OR YOUR MORTGAGE ALONE OR, UH, WHERE YOU'RE CURRENTLY HOUSED. 
          IT, IT PROVIDES A, A, A VARIETY OF SERVICES TO, TO STABILIZE. 
          UH, BUT THROUGH THIS MODEL, WE CAN, UH, BRING OUR RESOURCES FOR SENIORS, FOR YOUTH, FOR YOUTH AGING OUT OF THE HOMELESS SYSTEM, UH, FOR VETERANS, FOR A GENERAL LOW INCOME RESIDENT TOGETHER TO PROVIDE AS MUCH HOUSING STABILITY AS POSSIBLE. 
          UM, BUT THAT MEANS ESSENTIALLY, UM, NOT FACING EVICTIONS, NOT FACING DISPLACEMENT, UH, BEING ABLE TO AFFORD YOUR BASIC NECESSITIES. 
          AND THROUGH THE IMPACT WORK OF DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, WE UNDERSTAND WHERE MORE, UM, HOUSEHOLDS ARE IMPACTED BY A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT RESOURCES THAN OTHERS. 
          AND SO WE LOOK TO CONTINUE JUST TO REFINE THAT DEFINITION. 
          THERE'S MANY THINGS THAT WE USE THAT ARE NOT CLEARLY DEFINED, BUT, UM, THAT IS A STARTING PLACE FOR HOW WE APPROACH THIS WORK. 
          AND SO I'M ASSUMING THE CITY AND OR OUR PARTNERS WILL TRACK THAT SPECIFIC, UH, INFORMATION AND DATA THAT, THAT'S CORRECT. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND SO I'M GLAD TO SEE, I'M ALSO GLAD TO SEE WHAT, UH, Y'ALL ARE PROPOSING ANNUAL DISTRICT LEVEL REPORTING. 
          I'M, I'M WONDERING THOUGH IF Y'ALL COULD ELABORATE ON WHAT THAT REPORTING WILL SHOW. 
          THANKS. 
          UH, RIGHT NOW WE, WE HAVE ABILITY TO PULL JUST GENERAL CENSUS DATA. 
          IT TELLS US EVERYTHING FROM, UM, HOUSING TENURE TO, UM, LEVELS OF COLLEGE DEGREES TO LEVELS OF INCOME. 
          UH, WE HAVE ABILITY TO PULL PERMIT DATA FOR BOTH DEMOLITIONS NEW BUILD, CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. 
          UH, WE'RE ABLE TO PULL, UM, RESOURCES OF OTHER ACTIVITY THAT HAVE HAPPENED, WATER LINES THAT HAVE GONE IN, INFRASTRUCTURE UPGRADES, UM, SEWER LINES, UM, ALL OF THAT WE CAN SHOW OF ACTIVITY WITHIN A, WITHIN A DISTRICT. 
          UM, BUT WE ALSO TURN IT OVER TO YOU IF THERE'S SOMETHING SPECIFIC RELATED TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, UH, THAT'S IMPORTANT TO SEE CHANGE OVER TIME. 
          UM, THE NEXT PRESENTATION SHOWS US ENCAMPMENTS AND THAT DATA AND THAT WORK. 
          AND SO WE CAN BRING THOSE THINGS TOGETHER TO REALLY HIGHLIGHT THE COLLECTIVE WORK OF DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS ACROSS THE CITY. 
          AND WE ARE CONTINUALLY OPEN FOR FEEDBACK ON WHAT THAT TYPE OF YEAR OVER YEAR REPORT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR COUNCIL SNAPSHOTS. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN, AND THEN WITH REGARD TO THE QUARTERLY UPDATES, FOR EXAMPLE, UM, WILL THERE BE ANY CONSEQUENCES FOR MISSING TARGETS, YOU KNOW, IF, IF, IF, IF A TARGET IS OFF TRACK, WILL STAFF IDENTIFY WHY IT'S OFF TRACK OR, UH, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT CORRECTIVE ACTIONS ARE ARE BEING TAKEN? THANK YOU. 
          UM, UH, ON ONE OF THE SLIDES WE TALK ABOUT THE, THE, THE ITERATION PROCESS. 
          WHEN WE SEE THINGS ARE FALLING BEHIND, ADDRESS IT, ACKNOWLEDGE IT, AND PUT TOGETHER A PLAN FOR ACHIEVING IT. 
          ONE OF THE THINGS I'VE IMPLEMENTED SINCE, UH, OVER THE LAST YEAR IS I NOW LOOK AT ALL CONTRACTS FROM A FINANCIAL HEALTH POINT OF VIEW. 
          UM, ARE WE ON TARGET OF OUR BENCHMARKS OF SPENDING CAPACITY ON THAT CONTRACT? AND I HAVE, UM, A RED, GREEN, AND YELLOW, UM, MARKER ARE THE ONES THAT ARE MORE AT RISK OF NOT MEETING THEIR GOALS. 
          AND AS SOON AS THEY REACH THAT MIDPOINT, WE PULL THE TEAM TOGETHER TO ANALYZE THAT CONTRACT, PULL PARTNERS INTO THE OFFICE AND TALK ABOUT WHAT'S NEEDED TO GET THEM BACK ON TRACK TO, TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ACCOUNTABLE. 
          UM, 'CAUSE WE HAVE TO BE LOOKING AT THE HEALTH OF OUR CONTRACTS AND THE SERVICES WE'RE PROCURING. 
          UM, OTHERWISE WE HAVE TO LIKE, THINK ABOUT REPROCURING LOOKING AT OTHER PARTNERS, OR LOOK AT THE NETWORKS THAT MIGHT EXIST FOR CAPACITY BUILDING OR OTHER THINGS THAT ARE NEEDED IN THAT NONPROFIT WHO HAVE A VERY GOOD MODEL, BUT MAYBE NEED OTHER SUPPORT TO DELIVER FULLY ON THE SERVICES THAT THEY PROVIDED. 
          SO THAT WHOLE ECOSYSTEM IS SOMETHING WE HAVE TO LOOK AT BOTH INTERNALLY OF HOW WE ADMINISTER THE WORK AND EXTERNALLY WITH OUR PARTNERS THAT WE'RE ASKING TO DO THIS WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT THEY HAVE THE RIGHT RESOURCES TO ACHIEVE SUCCESS. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          THE LAST THING I'LL SAY, I'LL SHARE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT MY COLLEAGUE MENTIONED WITH REGARD TO THE, UH, GEOGRAPHICAL ASPECT OF THIS. 
          I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT, THAT THIS DOESN'T BECOME A CITYWIDE GOAL, THAT THAT LOOKS SUCCESSFUL IN THE AGGREGATE, UH, WHILE CERTAIN NEIGHBORHOODS CONTINUE TO RECEIVE, UM, VERY LITTLE INVESTMENT. 
          SO THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, MADAM CHAIR. 
          UH, UM, I, YEAH, THOSE ARE MY COMMENTS, 
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VICE CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CAN YOU REMIND US WHAT DISTRICTS HAVE NO HOMELESS SHELTERS? UM, I, I, I DON'T HAVE THAT DATA OFFHAND, BUT I MEAN, WE HAVE A HOMELESS SHELTER IN YOUR DISTRICT. 
          WE HAVE A HOMELESS SHELTER IN DISTRICT TWO THAT THE CITY OWNS, BUT FAMILY GATEWAY AND THE BRIDGE, UH, IN TERMS OF OTHER FACILITIES AND SHELTERS, UM, I'D HAVE TO GET BACK TO YOU ON EXACTLY WHAT THAT IS. 
          WELL, MY POINT, UM, THAT I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL WAS MAKING IS THAT WE'VE SEEN SOME DISTRICTS REALLY RESIST HAVING ANY KIND OF SERVICE. 
          UM, AND THIS WAS ADOPTED BY THE COUNCIL, IT PREDATES US, BUT THAT EVERY DISTRICT WOULD HAVE A SERVICE. 
          THAT WAS THE GOAL. 
          WE'VE REITERATED THIS, I DON'T KNOW, SEVEN YEARS NOW. 
          YOU'RE NOT EVEN HALFWAY THERE. 
          SO I HAVEN'T HEARD THE COUNCIL SAY SOMETHING VERY DIFFERENT YET. 
          I'VE ONLY HEARD INDIVIDUALS REJECT A PROJECT IN THEIR OWN DISTRICT, OTHERS WHO HAVE WELCOMED PROJECTS. 
          SO I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO TALK ABOUT. 
          UM, I'M GONNA ACTUALLY GO BACKWARDS FROM YOUR PRESENTATION ON SLIDE 20 WHERE YOU HAVE THE GOAL OF THE NUMBER OF UNITS. 
          HOW DID YOU DECIDE ON THOSE NUMBERS? WHAT LED YOU TO COME UP WITH THAT? WE LOOKED AT, UM, TALKING ABOUT JUST THE BASELINE DATA, RIGHT? WE LOOKED AT CURRENT THINGS LIKE CURRENT P-F-C-H-F-C PIPELINE, UM, OUR OWN INTERNAL PIPELINE OF PROJECTS. 
          UM, UH, AND THAT'S HOW WE, WE CREATED THE, THE 55,000 NUMBER. 
          SO IT WAS BASED ON WHAT IS POSSIBLE OR IS IT BASED ON WHAT THE ACTUAL NEED IS? IT WAS BASED UPON A MIX OF BOTH. 
          UM, WHAT IS THE NEED, WHAT IS THE GAP? UM, WHAT ARE, WHAT IS THE DATA REPORTS LIKE THE C POWELL RENTAL STUDY SAYING, UM, IT WAS A, BASED UPON VARIOUS DATA REPORT, UH, POINTS. 
          SO YOU'VE GOT A TWO TO ONE RATIO FOR RENTAL, UM, AND HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          AND SO HOW DID YOU DECIDE TO, TO MIX IT THAT WAY? THANK YOU. 
          SO IN, IN OUR LAST ACTION PLAN, UM, SOME OF THIS DATA IS REMNANT FROM THE LAST POLICY BECAUSE IT RECENT DATA WAS, UM, RELATIVELY, UM, WELL RECEIVED. 
          THE HOME OWNERSHIP GOAL HERE WAS TO LOOK AT THE EXISTING AMOUNT OF RENTERS THAT COULD BE BECOME HOMEOWNERS BASED ON INCOME. 
          UM, AND IF WE WANTED TO MOVE FROM A 60% RENTAL CITY TO A 50% RENTAL CITY, HOW MANY YEARLY NEW HOMEOWNERS WILL WE NEED TO PRODUCE? UM, AND THAT, THAT'S, THAT'S WHERE THAT GOAL WAS TO LOOK AT DRIVING WEALTH THROUGH HOME OWNERSHIP AS A CONSTANT, UM, PRIORITY THAT WE HEAR FROM COUNCIL IS EMBEDDED IN THIS, UM, IN THESE GOALS. 
          AND SO, UM, AND I'M SORRY IF I MISSED THIS, BUT ARE YOU NOW SAYING THAT YOU BELIEVE WE HAVE A 60% RENTAL CITY AND THAT THE GOAL IS TO GO TO 50 I THAT WHAT IS THAT INCLUDED IN THIS PRESENTATION? NOT, NOT EXPLICITLY. 
          UM, I WOULD SAY PLEASE PUT IT IN EXPLICITLY. 
          YEAH. 
          I MEAN, LIKE YOU JUST SAID, THERE'S A GOAL, I SUPPORT THAT GOAL. 
          I THINK YOU'VE HEARD THIS BODY, PERHAPS LARGER NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS SAY, WE NEED MORE HOME OWNERSHIP, AND I WOULD LOVE THAT ADDED IN AS A GOAL. 
          SO THAT'S SOME FEEDBACK FOR YOU. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN TO ADD ON TO JAMES'S POINT, THAT'S THE STRETCH GOAL PART OF IT, RIGHT? SO SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE, SORRY, THAT'S THE WHAT PART? THE, THE STRETCH GOAL. 
          A LOT OF THESE NUMBERS ARE BASED ON WHAT IS A ACHIEVABLE, WHAT'S IN THE PIPELINE, WHAT WE ANTICIPATE TO BE IN THE PIPELINE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE YEARS. 
          BUT THEN A GOAL LIKE THAT BECOMES, YOU KNOW, THAT, THAT NORTH STAR REALLY HARD TO REACH GOAL BECAUSE HOME OWNERSHIP DEVELOPMENT IS, IS, UH, MORE COMPLICATED TO DEVELOPMENT AND CURRENT CLIMATE. 
          AND SO AS IT BECOMES OUR PRIORITY AND ADDRESSED IN MULTIPLE DISTRICTS, UH, THAT'S WHEN WE, WE HOPE TO PUT A LOT OF EFFORT BEHIND. 
          WHEN I STARTED ON COUNCIL, THE RENTAL PERCENTAGE WAS 45%. 
          SEVEN YEARS LATER IT'S AT 60%. 
          WOW. 
          SO I THINK YOU COULD PROBABLY GET A 10% CHANGE IF YOU WORKED REALLY HARD AT IT OVER FIVE YEARS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I WILL SAY, I THINK HOUSING STABILITY, AND I, AND I LOVE THE QUESTION THAT MY COLLEAGUE ASKED ABOUT YOUR DEFINITION OF THAT, UM, THAT LEADS TO CITY STABILITY AND IT IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UM, THE ANSWER OF THE QUESTION OF YOU GENERALLY LOOK AT FOLKS AND IF 30% OF THEIR INCOME IS, UM, BEING ADDRESSED WITH HOUSING, THAT MAY BE, UM, MAKES THEM INSECURE, HOUSING INSECURE. 
          BUT I WOULD QUESTION SOME THINGS, WHICH IS, I WILL OFTEN SEE, ESPECIALLY ON SOME LIKE PRIVATE FACEBOOK GROUPS OF 
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DOWNTOWN DEEP EL AND SOME OF THESE WHERE THERE'S YOUNG PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY STRUGGLING WITH RENT. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE REALLY STRUGGLING AND THEY DON'T HAVE A ROOMMATE AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO GO TO A LESS EXPENSIVE AREA. 
          SO THEY COULD GET A ONE BEDROOM APARTMENT FOR A THOUSAND DOLLARS LESS A MONTH IN DALLAS, BUT NOT THAT PARTICULAR PART OF DALLAS, AND THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO GO. 
          AND SO I'M NOT SURE IT'S THE TAXPAYER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO SUPPORT SOMEONE JUST BECAUSE THEY WANNA LIVE IN A SPECIFIC PART OF TOWN WHEN THERE ARE OTHER OPPORTUNITIES WITH VACANCY AND MUCH LOWER RENTS. 
          AND I DO THINK THAT THE COUNCIL NEEDS TO CONSIDER, ARE WE JUST WILLING TO USE OTHER PEOPLE'S TAX DOLLARS TO SUBSIDIZE SOMEBODY'S PREFERENCE ON WHAT PART OF DALLAS THEY LIVE IN, BECAUSE IT'S MORE EXPENSIVE. 
          I, I, I THINK THAT IS INAPPROPRIATE, BUT I PERHAPS HAVE COLLEAGUES WHO WOULD FEEL DIFFERENTLY. 
          UM, MY NEXT QUESTION GOES TO PAGE NUMBER 16, AND THIS IS ABOUT FAIR HOUSING. 
          SO FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR HAVING FAIR HOUSING GO OUT. 
          UM, I KNOW WE HAD A VERY LONG, UM, DETAILED PRESENTATION AND DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW I, I REALLY DON'T BELIEVE THAT FAIR HOUSING HAD BEEN OUT IN THE COMMUNITY. 
          AND I THINK YOU'VE DONE IT, AND I JUST WANNA APPLAUD YOU FOR THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WILL SAY I THINK IT'S A GOOD IDEA FOR THERE TO BE SOME SORT OF DASHBOARD OR PUBLIC FACING, UM, WAY FOR PEOPLE TO SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH FAIR HOUSING, HOW MANY COMPLAINTS ARE COMING IN, HOW MANY WERE INVESTIGATED, WHERE THINGS ARE AT. 
          I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THAT WHEN WE GET AN ITEM ON AN AGENDA THAT HAS HAD A FAIR HOUSING REVIEW, WHICH THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO ALL HAVE A FAIR HOUSING REVIEW, AND I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          I WOULD LIKE THAT TO BE LINKED IN THE AGENDA. 
          JUST LIKE ANY, ANYTHING ELSE, WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO SEE THAT AND THAT WOULD ALSO PROVIDE ACCOUNTABILITY THAT THAT HOUSING REVIEW IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I, I, I WILL, I WILL, UH, VERIFY WITH THE ATTORNEYS AFTER THIS MEETING WHAT WE'RE ABLE TO LINK IN THOSE ASSESSMENTS. 
          UM, WE DO STITE THE SCORE OF THE FAIR HOUSING ASSESSMENT AND ALL THE HOUSING RELATED AGENDA ITEMS. SO IN THE P-F-C-H-F-C AND ANY DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WE BRING FORWARD, UH, WE ADD IN THE FAIR HOUSING ASSESSMENT SCORE ACHIEVED, I THINK ACTUALLY TOMORROW THERE'S AN ITEM WHERE IT JUST MAKES A STATEMENT THAT THERE'S NO CHANGE AS OPPOSED TO WHAT THE SCORE IS. 
          IT WAS A NEUTRAL ASSESSMENT, SO IT DID NOT ACHIEVE A LOW RATING OR A HIGH RATING. 
          IT, IT ACHIEVED THE NEUTRAL SCORE. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE THE SCORE. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          UM, AS FAR AS, UM, I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, AND I WOULD ACTUALLY LIKE YOU TO PROVIDE A MEMO ON THIS. 
          I'M NOT ASSUMING YOU KNOW THIS OFF THE TOP OF YOUR HEAD, BUT HOW MANY COMPLAINTS ACTUALLY CAME IN IN FISCAL YEAR 26 AND 25, AND WHAT YOUR GOAL IS FOR HOW MANY YOU'RE EXPECTING FOR FISCAL YEAR 27? YES. 
          WE, WE ARE PREPARING A FAIR HOUSING MEMO UPDATE FOR OCTOBER, AND THAT WILL HAVE THAT INFORMATION AND I'LL HAVE THAT INFORMATION, MA'AM, SPECIFICALLY? YES, MA'AM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN MY LAST, UH, SET OF QUESTIONS, UM, GOES BACK TO THE EXPAND HOUSING CHOICE, UH, QUESTION THAT PILLAR ONE, WHICH AGAIN, DON'T LOVE THE WHOLE PILLAR IDEA, BUT THAT'S FINE. 
          UM, AND I'M GONNA, AGAIN, SURPRISINGLY AGREE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DOA, THAT, UM, I'M SURPRISED TO SEE DISTRICT 12 ON THERE, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU ANSWERED HIS QUESTIONS. 
          NUMBER ONE, DISTRICT 12 HAS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF CITY SERVICES IN THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          ABSOLUTELY THE LEAST. 
          IT HAS THE LEAST AVAILABLE LAND IN THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          SO THE PERCENT OF BUILD OUT IS RIDICULOUSLY HIGH. 
          IT'S THE THIRD MOST DENSE IN THE CITY WITH THE OTHER TWO DISTRICTS INCLUDING PART OF DOWNTOWN. 
          SO THAT'S SURPRISING. 
          UM, THE PROFILES THAT YOU SAY YOU'RE BUILDING OF EACH DISTRICT, THERE'S A PROBLEM WITH THE, THE PROFILES BECAUSE WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT WANTING TO HAVE THESE MIXED INCOME COMMUNITIES. 
          WELL, GUESS WHAT? DISTRICT 12 ALREADY HAS THAT. 
          AND SO WHEN YOU TAKE AREAS THAT HAVE A LOWER INCOME AND AREAS THAT HAVE A HIGHER INCOME, Y'ALL ARE JUST AVERAGING STUFF OUT AND IT'S MISREPRESENTING WHAT'S ACTUALLY HAPPENING. 
          YOU KNOW, MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS VERY ADJACENT TO THE LOWEST INCOME SECTION OF MY CITY, OF MY DISTRICT. 
          AND, YOU KNOW, I WALK PAST IT EVERY DAY ON THE, ON THE PRESTON RIDGE TRAIL AND EVERYBODY GETS ALONG. 
          THERE'S NO ISSUE, THERE'S NO, THERE'S NO GROUPS COMING DOWN HERE PROTESTING. 
          WE DON'T WANT THIS, OR WE THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH OF THAT. 
          IT'S NEVER HAPPENED. 
          IT'S LITERALLY NEVER HAPPENED. 
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WE ARE JUST ALL TOGETHER. 
          BUT WHEN YOU START COMBINING ALL THOSE NUMBERS, IT LOOKS A DIFFERENT WAY THAN WHAT'S REALLY HAPPENING. 
          AND SO I THINK ONCE YOU'VE ACHIEVED THAT ACTUAL MIXED INCOME AREA, YOUR YOUR NUMBERS ARE NOT ACCURATE. 
          SO THE PROFILE IS INTERESTING. 
          I, I HAVE ANOTHER AREA, UM, WHERE WE LITERALLY HAVE MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOUSES BACKING UP TO VERY, VERY LOW, HIGHLY VACANT, PRETTY HIGH CRIME RATE APARTMENTS. 
          AGAIN, THEY'RE NOT DOWN HERE. 
          DO YOU SEE THEM? COLLEAGUES? THEY'RE NOT LIKE IT'S ALL WORKED OUT. 
          AND SO I JUST, I QUESTION HOW YOU'RE APPROACHING THIS AND, UM, SO YOUR ANSWER TO COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DUA IS LIKE, WHAT, WHEN HE ASKED WHAT DATA IS BEING USED TO IDENTIFY THIS, YOU SAID, WELL, AVAILABLE LAND. 
          WELL, DISTRICT 12 DOESN'T HAVE THAT. 
          UM, THE, THE CURRENT STOCK AND EXPIRING MOST OF THESE ARE MARKET RATE AFFORDABLE UNITS, AND THOSE DEVELOPERS ARE NOT INTERESTED IN, UM, UH, GIVING UP THEIR OWNERSHIP AND THEY'RE MAKING A LOT OF MONEY, EVEN WITH SOME OF THE LOWEST RENTS IN THE ENTIRE CITY. 
          SO THE ONLY THING I'M GONNA SAY ON THIS, AND I HAVE SAID THIS THE ENTIRE TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL, AND I BELIEVE IT TO MY CORE, THE FUTURE OF DALLAS IS SOUTHERN DALLAS AND SOUTH DALLAS. 
          AND IF WE ARE NOT FOCUSED ON DEVELOPING THAT AND DEVELOPING IT, RIGHT, THIS CITY WILL BE LOST. 
          AND SO I AGAIN, WOULD LOVE TO SEE MASTER PLANNING HAPPENING IN SOUTHERN DALLAS WITH THAT COMMUNITY OF HOUSING THAT INCLUDES EVERY KIND OF TYPE RETAIL. 
          THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE TO GET, RIGHT? AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE IDEA IS TO TRY TO SHOW, OH, WE CARE ABOUT THE WHOLE CITY, SO WE'LL JUST INCLUDE, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING SOMEWHERE, EVERYWHERE. 
          THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR REAL FOCUS HAS TO BE. 
          OUR FOCUS HAS TO BE SOUTHERN DALLAS. 
          SO IN THE 1980S, IT WAS FAR NORTH DALLAS, EVERY ZONING CASE WOULD COME, IT WOULD BE DISTRICT 12, BUT THAT TIME'S PASSED. 
          IT'S ALL BUILT. 
          AND WE HAVE TO LOOK TO SOUTHERN DALLAS BECAUSE THEY NEED IT. 
          THEY NEED A PLAN, THEY NEED A WAY TO GO. 
          AND SO THAT'S THE PART THAT I THINK IN WHAT YOU'RE PROPOSING IS MISSING THE MARK. 
          AND IT'S NOT THAT THE OTHERS ARE GONNA BE UPSET THAT, OH, YOU'RE NOT PAYING ATTENTION TO US. 
          WE KNOW OUR FUTURE IS SOUTHERN DALLAS AND WE HAVE TO GET IT RIGHT. 
          SO I JUST THINK YOU'RE DISTRACTING FROM WHAT THE REAL GOAL AND THE REAL NEED IS RIGHT IN FRONT OF US. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK, THANK YOU. 
          UM, CHAIR, UH, WILLIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO I HAD BEEN CONCERNED BEFORE WHEN WE DID TALK ABOUT DISTRICTS SO INDIVIDUALLY AND AS IF IT WAS A FIEFDOM, BUT I APPRECIATE THE WAY YOU'VE BROKEN OUT WITHIN THESE PILLARS EVEN FURTHER, WHAT THE, THE DISTINCTIONS WOULD BE WITH THESE DIFFERENT DISTRICTS, BECAUSE WE CAN LOOK AT IT BROADLY, BUT IN STARING DOWN 55,000 UNITS THAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE THROUGH VARIOUS WAYS OF, OF STABLE HOUSING, UH, I THINK WE'VE GOTTA START GETTING INTO THOSE FINER LAYERS OF UNDERSTANDING THAT DATA AS WE WOULD IN CORPORATE AMERICA. 
          I MEAN, YOU, YOU REALLY WANNA UNDERSTAND WHAT THE ISSUE IS AND THEN THE SPECIFICS OF SOME OF THEM AND HOW YOU CAN DRIVE THOSE GOALS. 
           TALKING ABOUT EXTREMELY LOW INCOME RENTERS IN DALLAS AND HOW THEY'RE SPENDING 78% OF THEIR INCOME ON RENT. 
          I THINK WE'VE TOUCHED ON IT, BUT I JUST WANT THAT TO SIT WITH SOME PEOPLE. 
          HOW DO YOU FEED YOUR FAMILY? HOW DO YOU GET FROM POINT A TO B, YOUR JOB, YOUR SCHOOL, UM, AND LIVE IN THIS PROSPEROUS CITY? UM, THAT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO KEEP IN MIND AS WE LOOK THROUGH THESE PAGES. 
          UM, I DO HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS ON PAGE 13, AND I WANNA TOUCH ON THIS, BUT THIS CAN BE AN OFFLINE MEETING AND I WANNA MAKE IT ALL ABOUT THE DISTRICT THAT I REPRESENT. 
          BUT, UH, WE DON'T HAVE DISTRICT 13 INCLUDED IN THE EXPIRATION REVIEW. 
          AND THAT IS AN AREA THAT HAS, UM, IN THE VICKERY MEADOW AREA, HAS THREE CONSECUTIVE ARPA QUALIFYING CENSUS TRACKS, BRONX LEVEL DENSITY. 
          AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SOME EXPIRATIONS THAT ARE COMING AND JUST UNDERSTANDING WHAT THAT RIPPLE WOULD BE IS SOMETHING I'D LIKE TO HAVE SOME TIME WITH YOU ALL TO REVIEW. 
          YEAH, HAPPY TO. 
          AND, AND I KNOW WE CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT VICTORY MEADOW AREA. 
          UH, SO LOOKING FORWARD TO REENGAGING WITH THE, UH, THE PROPERTY OWNERS THERE. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          AND ON 
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15 WHERE WE TALK ABOUT HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES, UM, I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF YOU ALL ARE AWARE OF THIS, BUT THE MIDTOWN PIT HAS OPENED A RESILIENCE CENTER IN PARTNERSHIP WITH THE BRIDGE AND IT'S, YOU KNOW, COULD BE AN INCREDIBLE MODEL, BUT I WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE INCORPORATE THAT INTO WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT AS FAR AS THE HOUSING AND COMMUNITY SERVICES PART, BECAUSE THAT'S AN OFFSITE WAY, I MEAN, FROM THE, THE BRIDGE MOTHERSHIP TO BRING PEOPLE INTO THE SYSTEM, NOT JUST IN D 13, BUT THAT'S ADJACENT TO NINE AND 10 AND 11. 
          AND SO, UM, YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          AND I DO WANT TO TOUR THAT COURTS BUILDING WITH YOU AND UNDERSTAND THE VISION OF THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          WELL, THAT SHIP IS SAILED THAT IT'S NOT HAPPENING THERE. 
          THIS IS AT FIVE POINTS. 
          I UNDERSTAND. 
          SO NEW OFFICE AND ADJACENCY RIGHT THERE AT FIVE POINTS OF THE RESILIENCE CENTER. 
          THAT'S GREAT. 
          SO, UM, AND, AND YOU KNOW, BUT THERE COULD BE SOME POTENTIAL IN OTHER FACILITIES, CITY FACILITIES TO PARTNER WITH OTHER NONPROFITS TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS TO JUST CAST A WIDER NET AND, AND GET PEOPLE IN. 
          SO I WANNA BE SURE WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT ON OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ALIGNMENT. 
          AND ON PAGE 17 AND THE ECONOMIC MOBILITY FOCUS, I ALSO STARTED THINKING ABOUT DISTRICTS 10, 11, 12, AND 13 ON ECONOMIC MOBILITY BECAUSE OF THESE DENSE CONCENTRATIONS IN THESE AGING APARTMENT COMPLEXES. 
          AND, UH, SO I'LL, I'M WILLING TO GO OFFLINE AND LEARN MORE ABOUT HOW YOU'RE DEFINING THAT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE IN THE COMING COUPLE OF MONTHS YOU'RE GONNA BE DRILLING INTO THIS MORE WITH US, BUT I'D, I'D REALLY LIKE TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION BEFORE WE WE GET TO THAT POINT. 
          I WAS PLEASED TO HEAR YOU TALK ABOUT FAITH-BASED LAND OPPORTUNITIES AND HOW THAT COULD BE DEVELOPED FOR HOUSING. 
          ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT LIKE NEW CONSTRUCTION OR REPAIR OR WHAT? MOSTLY NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          WE, WE WANNA LOOK AT, WE'VE HAD VARIOUS CONVERSATIONS WITH FOUR TO FIVE, UH, FAITH-BASED LEADERS IN THE SOUTHERN SECTOR, UM, WHO ALL OWN, UH, VARIOUS LARGE PARCELS OF LAND. 
          AND SO IF YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IS OUR SOUTHERN DALLAS STRATEGY, IT'S NOT MENTIONED IN THE PRESENTATION, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON IT. 
          UM, IT'S SEEN IN OUR DIFFERENT INITIATIVES. 
          ONE IS INCLUDING OUR FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE. 
          UM, FIVE PASTORS LITERALLY, UM, WE'VE TALKED TO THAT HAVE, I WOULD SAY, IN COMBINATION 50 TO 60 ACRES OR MORE, UM, THAT WE WANT TO, THAT WE WANNA LEVERAGE. 
          SO THAT IS PROMISING. 
          I FELT LIKE ONE THING THAT'S UNDERUTILIZED IS, IS THAT FAITH-BASED COMMUNITY ON HOME REPAIR, BECAUSE THAT GETS TO A BIGGER ISSUE HERE WHERE WE'VE GOT SOME HOME OWNERSHIP PROGRAMS, WE'VE GOT SOME HOME REPAIR PROGRAMS, AND I SEE THE YIELD AND I'M SURE FOR THOSE 40 FAMILIES THAT IS VERY MEANINGFUL. 
          BUT AS I LOOK AT THOSE SMALLER AMOUNTS OF THE BUDGET, YOU KNOW, SMALLER NUMBERS, I JUST WONDER IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WOULD LIVE BETTER WITH A FINANCIAL INSTITUTION OR NONPROFIT. 
          AND I KNOW I'VE RAISED THIS BEFORE, BUT IF THOSE DOLLARS AND THAT EFFORT AND STAFF TIME WOULD BE BETTER ROLLED INTO A MASS ON SOME OF THESE OTHERS JUST TO MAKE US MORE EFFICIENT. 
          THAT'S JUST SOMETHING I WANNA LOOK AT. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AS YOU KNOW, VOLUNTEERS OF AMERICA IS OUR SUB-RECIPIENT ADMINISTERING HOME REPAIR RIGHT NOW. 
          UM, AND THEY'RE ALREADY ACHIEVING, UH, SUCCESS IN THEIR, UH, FIRST FEW MONTHS OF THAT CONTRACT. 
          UM, WE WILL BE ABLE TO REPORT OUT HERE SOON IN OUR YEAR END REPORT ON WHAT THEY'VE ACHIEVED AND WHAT'S IN THEIR PIPELINE. 
          AND WE'RE HAPPY TO COMPARE THAT TO WHEN CITY STAFF ADMINISTERS IT TO SHOW THE EFFICIENCIES GAINED WITH THE NONPROFIT SECTOR. 
          UH, AND THERE IS A LOT OF PARTNERSHIP OPPORTUNITIES TO GROW THE WORK AND HOME REPAIR AND GENERAL SERVICES AND CONNECTIONS TO DIFFERENT, UM, THINGS THAT JUST EXIST ALL AROUND THE CITY. 
          AND, AND WE KNOW WE HAVE TO EXPAND OUR PARTNERSHIP MODEL. 
          UH, IT'S A CHARGE OF THE CITY MANAGER. 
          IT'S A CHARGE OF DRIVERS OF OPPORTUNITY, UH, AND WE HAVE TOO MANY NEEDS TO ADDRESS BY OURSELVES. 
          SO WE REALLY HAVE TO ACTIVATE THOSE COMMUNITIES TO ACHIEVE, UM, YOU KNOW, GREATER AWARENESS OF EVERYTHING. 
          WELL, AND I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT A SUMMIT OF SORTS WHERE THERE ARE TRACKS WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT NEW CONSTRUCTION. 
          THERE IS THE HOME REPAIR TRACK, THERE IS THE, YOU KNOW, SOME, UM, UH, FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS HAVE ADOPTED PEOPLE AND HAVE A MODEL FOR SUCCESSFUL ADOPTION AND CARE OF THEIR WHOLE COMMUNITY, UH, THEIR CONGREGATION TO WRAP AROUND PEOPLE AND HAVE A PROGRAM THAT STANDS THEM UP IN AN ONGOING FASHION. 
          AND SO I'D, I'D LOVE TO SEE THAT. 
          IT SOUNDS LIKE MAYBE YOU HAVE BEEN PERCOLATING ON THAT. 
          YEAH, IT'S ALREADY IN, IN, IN, IN IN THE WORKS. 
          UM, WE'RE LOOKING AT EARLY NOVEMBER, UH, TO PARTNER WITH, UM, OUR LOCAL HUD OFFICE TO, UM, HOST A FAITH-BASED SUMMIT. 
          UM, IN ADDITION TO THAT, WE ARE LOOKING IN Q2 OF OUR NEXT YEAR OF DOING SOMETHING DIFFERENT, UM, CALLED A DALLAS DEVELOPER'S DAY THAT REALLY CREATES THOSE TRACKS THAT YOU JUST MENTIONED, BUT BRINGS IN ALL OF THE VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS THAT MAY TOUCH HOUSING PRODUCTION AND ALLOWS DEVELOPERS TO GO TO EACH TABLE AND ASK QUESTIONS OR, UH, GET UNDERSTANDING OF THE PROCESS. 
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AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE, WE'RE DOING THAT ON MULTIPLE FRONTS ON BRINGING PEOPLE INTO THE TENT, UM, AND ASSURING THAT THEY ARE PARTNERS WITH US IN ACHIEVING THAT 55,000 GOAL. 
          WELL, I I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT DEMYSTIFYING THE PROCESS SO MORE PEOPLE CAN JUST LOSE THE FRICTION OF IT AND GET INVOLVED AND HELP US GET TO THESE GOALS ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP AND THE LOANS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          I, I THINK YOU'VE SAID THAT PART OF THE NECESSITY OF OUR PROGRAM IS BECAUSE MAYBE THERE'S SOME BARRIERS THAT ARE LESSER BARRIERS THAT MIGHT MOVE SOMEONE TO HOME OWNERSHIP SOONER. 
          AND I'M JUST, I'D LOVE TO WORK SIMULTANEOUSLY ON HOW DO WE WORK WITH FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS OR NONPROFITS ON WHAT ARE THOSE BARRIERS AND HOW CAN THEY MODIFY THEIR OWN POLICIES TO NOT TAKE ON MORE RISK NECESSARILY OR JUST TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT RISK IS REAL. 
          BECAUSE ON SOME OF THESE PROGRAMS, PEOPLE ARE STILL MAKING PAYMENTS. 
          I MEAN, THEY'RE STILL BEING RESPONSIBLE AND DEMONSTRATING THAT THEY CAN, CAN OWN A HOME AND, AND MAKE THESE PAYMENTS. 
          SO I'M WONDERING IF WE CAN TAKE SOME OF THAT HISTORY AND WORK ON THESE POLICIES THAT MIGHT STILL BE LIMITING PEOPLE. 
          UM, YES. 
          UH, PART OF THE UPDATE OF THIS POLICY ALSO BE LOOKING AT OUR PROGRAMS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE REMOVE ANY LOCAL BARRIERS THAT WE CAN, UH, IN EVERYTHING THAT WE ADMINISTER. 
          OUR DOWN PAYMENT ASSISTANCE PROGRAM IS PRIMARILY FUNDED THROUGH CDBG AND HOME. 
          AND SO THERE ARE SOME FEDERAL RESTRICTIONS IN THERE THAT MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO ADMINISTER THAN SAY LIKE THE T SH ONE. 
          UH, BUT THE OTHER THING HERE ON HOME OWNERSHIP IS WORKING WITH HOUSED ETX AT A COMMUNITIES FOUNDATION OF TEXAS, WHICH IS ONE OF THEIR PRIORITIES TO INVEST IN, IN DEVELOPMENTS THAT PRIORITIZE HOME OWNERSHIP. 
          WE JUST HAVE TO WORK WITH IN THE DIFF DIFFERENT PLANS TO IDENTIFY THE AREAS WHERE THAT CAN BE MOST SUPPORTED SO THAT THE DEVELOPERS HAVE A PATH FORWARD. 
          UH, WE MIGHT NEED TO APPLY SOME INCENTIVES TO THAT PROJECT, UH, BUT WE HAVE TO BRING EVERYONE TOGETHER TO REALLY PUSH HOME OWNERSHIP BECAUSE DEVELOPERS DON'T MAKE AS MUCH MONEY ON IT. 
          UH, IT CAN BE A LITTLE BIT MORE COMPLICATED. 
          UM, AND SO A LOT OF FOLKS WILL TURN TO RENTAL BECAUSE IT'S A LONGER TERM, UM, WEALTH GENERATION FOR MULTIPLE PARTIES RATHER THAN THE HOME OWNERSHIP MODEL. 
          BUT WE KNOW WE NEED HOME OWNERSHIP IN THE CITY AND WE HAVE TO DOUBLE DOWN ON THAT. 
          SO I THINK FINALLY ON, UM, ONE THING I WOULD ASK COMING FORWARD IS, YOU KNOW, IN IN NORTHERN DALLAS I'VE GOT, YOU KNOW, EXPENSIVE DIRT ALSO HAVE A LOT OF AGING STOCK. 
          AND SO IN MANY DISTRICTS WE'VE GOT AGING APARTMENT STOCK, SO IT DOESN'T MEAN WE JUST OWE WE'RE FULL. 
          IT MEANS WE HAVE TO REGENERATE OR REPAIR OR MAKE SURE WE EXTEND THE LIFE OF THAT. 
          AND SO, AND ALSO IT'S KIND OF BEEN SINGLE FAMILY OR APARTMENTS. 
          SO OPENING THE DOOR FOR WHAT ARE SOME OF THOSE OTHER OPTIONS THAT CAN PROVIDE OWNERSHIP AND MAYBE IN A DIFFERENT FORMAT. 
          UM, BUT SO WE'RE THINKING ABOUT THAT. 
          I MEAN, I FEEL LIKE MY SOUTHERN, UM, DISTRICT REPRESENTATIVES ARE PROBABLY EXPERTS MORE IN THEIR, THEIR AREA, BUT I DO THINK WE NEED A CITYWIDE EYE TO SOUTHERN DALLAS AND HOW IF PEOPLE ARE WANTING TO DEVELOP IN NORTHERN DALLAS AND OTHER SEGMENTS OF THE CITY THAT CAN HELP PUT MONEY INTO THE COFFERS TO HELP FUEL THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SEE MORE MOVEMENT IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR CITY. 
          I THINK WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT HOLE. 
          ONE THING I'D LIKE TO SEE COMING BACK IS, UH, UNDERSTANDING THE VACANCY CHAIN. 
          UH, 'CAUSE SOMETIMES, YOU KNOW, WE'LL LOOK AT VERY HIGH END DEVELOPMENTS, BUT THEY STILL PLAY A ROLE ULTIMATELY IN AFFORDABILITY, BUT IT, PEOPLE DON'T NECESSARILY PUT IT TOGETHER THAT WAY. 
          AND SO HOW DOES THAT CASCADE OCCUR? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, ONE MOVE LEADS TO ANOTHER MOVE AND IT JUST EVENTUALLY, YOU KNOW, IS, IS HELPING THOSE WHO I'M GOING BACK TO THAT EARLIER PAGE, COULD SEE SOME MOVEMENT AND MAYBE WITH MARKET PRESSURE, NOT HAVE TO PAY SO MUCH OF THEIR INCOME TO JUST KEEP A ROOF OVER THEIR FAMILY'S HEAD. 
          UM, THANK YOU ALL. 
          UH, I DO LOOK FORWARD TO DIG DIGGING INTO THIS MORE AND I REALLY DO THINK THAT THIS ISSUE, I MEAN BETWEEN HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS IS SOMETHING THAT MERITS GETTING GRANULAR SO WE CAN UNDERSTAND THIS AND MOVE A NEEDLE CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU CHAIR GRACIE. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, I WAS DEBATING ON WHETHER OR NOT I WAS GONNA SAY THIS, BUT I'M, I'M GONNA ASK THIS QUESTION, BUT I WANNA ASK IT THIS WAY AND, AND THEN MAKE THE STATEMENT BEHIND WHY I'M ASKING THIS, BUT HOW DOES THIS TRANSLATE INTO PLANNING AND ZONING CASES? AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT, I UNDERSTAND SOME OF 'EM CAN BE, YOU KNOW, FOR WHATEVER REASON, THEY CAN HAVE THEIR, THEIR COMPLICATIONS. 
          BUT IN SOME CASES, THERE WAS AN EXAMPLE WHERE IT WAS A, UH, I THINK IT WAS THEY WERE DOING DUPLEXES, AND IT WAS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN PUTTING A DRIVEWAY IN THE BACK OR PUTTING THE DRIVEWAY IN THE FRONT DEVELOPER WANTED TO PUT IT IN THE FRONT, THEY WANTED TO PUT IT IN THE BACK. 
          WELL, WE'RE NOT EVEN DOING, WE'RE TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM PICKING UP ALLEY PICKUPS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. 
          BUT FOR THAT REASON, IT WAS DENIED. 
          AND FOR THAT REASON, THIS PARTICULAR COMMUNITY LOST HOUSING. 
          SO I'M JUST CURIOUS TO KNOW, HOW DOES THIS TRANSLATE INTO THOSE TYPE OF DECISIONS? THIS, YOU MAY NOT HAVE AN ANSWER, BUT MAYBE I'M JUST SAYING, 
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SOME OF THIS NEEDS TO BE FACTORED INTO HOW, HOW THESE DECISIONS, I KNOW THERE'S ZONING CASES AND THINGS, BUT SOME OF THIS IS PREFERENCE AND THESE PREFERENCES ARE, ARE CAUSING COMMUNITIES TO MISS OUT ON HELPING US MEET THESE GOALS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. 
          UM, OFTENTIMES ZONING PLANNING, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAPPENS SO EARLY IN A DEVELOPMENT BEFORE WE EVEN SEE IT, RIGHT? BECAUSE, UH, BEFORE WE EVEN INVEST IN SOMETHING, IT HAS TO BE ALLOWED, UM, BY RIGHT OR THROUGH THAT ZONING CHANGE FOR US TO INVEST IN. 
          BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP US FROM TALKING ABOUT THE MASTER PLAN IDEA OR WHAT COUNCILMAN BASL DO'S TEAM JUST DID WITH PD 5 95, UM, AND OUR UPCOMING ZONING REFORM THAT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT'S WORKING ON, UM, OR WHAT, UH, OUR REAL ESTATE TEAM IS WORKING ON WITH OUR REAL ESTATE MASTER PLAN. 
          MM-HMM . 
          UH, WE HAVE, UH, A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT CITY OWNED ASSETS. 
          WE HAVE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT COMMUNITIES THAT ARE ORGANIZED AND HAVE VISIONS. 
          UM, THERE'S PLANS IN WEST DALLAS. 
          THERE'S PLANS IN THE BOTTOM, THERE'S PLANS THAT EXIST ALL ACROSS THE CITY THAT HAVE BEEN SOME ADOPTED SOME IN THE WORKS. 
          UM, IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE TALK TO DEVELOPERS AND THEY'RE LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES, OR THEY COME TO YOU AND WE'RE IN MEETINGS ABOUT VISIONING, IT'S ABOUT MAKING SURE THAT THAT VISION IS THERE. 
          AND IF A ZONING CHANGE NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO SUPPORT IT, UM, THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE WE UNDERSTAND THAT PROCESS. 
          MANY OF THE ZONING CHANGES ARE JUST FOR A MARKET RATE DEVELOPMENT, AND IT'S A BY RIGHT PROCESS, RIGHT? THEY'RE GOING THROUGH CPC AND THAT WHOLE PROCESS, WHICH OUR CHAIR KNOWS VERY MUCH ABOUT. 
          UM, SO IT'S NOT A DIRECT LINEAR PATH, BUT IT'S CONNECTED. 
          AND IF WE AS TEAMS, UM, UNDERSTAND MORE THE VISIONS IN CERTAIN AREAS THAT ARE RECENTLY ADOPTED, IT'S EASIER FOR US TO MAKE SURE WE ARE SELLING THAT MESSAGE TO ALL OF THE PEOPLE WE COME IN CONTACT WITH TO ACHIEVE THESE GOALS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, AND THEN NOW I'LL GO BACK TO, UM, THE PRESENTATION. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT RESPONSE THOUGH. 
          IT'S JUST, AGAIN, SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW THIS TRANSLATES, YOU KNOW, BETWEEN ALL OF THE DIFFERENT GOVERNING BODIES. 
          UM, ON THE CITY PRESERVATION SIDE, AND I THINK I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT I WANT TO HEAR YOU SAY IT. 
          HOW DOES THIS FACTOR INTO, ON THE PRESERVATION, HOW DOES THIS FACTOR INTO KIND OF THE, THE, THE POOR PROPERTY MANAGERS, RIGHT? WE WANT TO PRESERVE, BUT THEN WE HAVE, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THESE WHO HAVE BEEN HISTORICALLY POOR PROPERTY MANAGERS. 
          WHAT DOES PRESERVATION LOOK LIKE IN THAT CASE? WHEN I THINK I, YOU SAID, UM, YOU KNOW, BE CONTACTING THESE MULTIFAMILIES BEFORE THEY EXPIRE. 
          WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE AND AND WHAT TYPE OF INFORMATION ARE YOU GONNA HAVE AS YOU'RE TALKING TO THESE? YEAH, THANK YOU. 
          UM, SO WHAT WE CURRENTLY DO, AND WE DO THIS IN PARTNERSHIP, UM, OFTENTIMES WITH LIKE A GENTLEMAN, AARON QUINTO AND OTHERS, RIGHT? WHEN WE'RE JUST LOOKING FOR OPPORTUNITIES OR DEVELOPERS LOOKING AT THINGS, UH, WE'LL JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE FOR THE PROPERTY, UNDERSTAND IT. 
          WE ARE, WE HAVE ABILITY TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THE CITY INCENTIVES MIGHT BE. 
          WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO LOOK AT WHAT'S GOING ON. 
          UM, THAT'S WHEN PROPERTY MATTER IS GOOD. 
          MAYBE THAT PROPERTY IS DECENT, RIGHT? IT'S WORTH LIKE REINVESTING IN THE ONES WHERE YOU HAVE NUISANCE COMPLAINTS, THIS IS WHERE LIKE CODE COMES INTO PLAY OR COMMUNITY PROSECUTION MIGHT COME INTO PLAY. 
          UM, AND THAT THROUGH THAT NUISANCE ABATEMENT PROCESS, THERE'S OTHER RESOURCES THAT THE CITY MIGHT HAVE. 
          THERE'S RECEIVERSHIP, THERE'S, YOU KNOW, UM, LOCAL LIKE FINES THAT ARE IMPOSED. 
          WE HAVE THAT ENTIRE PROCESS, SO KIND OF A COUPLE DIFFERENT CONCURRENT TRACKS FOR DIFFERENT PROPERTIES, UM, BUT ALL RELATED TO THE SAME AGING PROPERTIES. 
          UM, ONCE THEY FALL INTO DISREPAIR AND HAVE OTHER ISSUES, WE KNOW, UH, WHAT THAT BRINGS IN COMMUNITIES. 
          AND SO, UH, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH OUR ATTORNEY'S OFFICE COMMUNITY PROSECUTION ON THESE. 
          UM, WE WE'RE OFTEN ASKED WHAT OTHER RESOURCES MIGHT HAVE IF ONE OF THOSE PROPERTIES GETS TO THIS STAGE. 
          UH, SOMETIMES IT, IT JUST IS A MATTER OF LIKE THEM APPLYING FOR AN INCENTIVE APPLICATION TO KNOW WHAT THEY NEED TO DO FOR REINVESTMENT. 
          SOMETIMES IT'S FORMING A PARTNERSHIP WITH AN HFC AND A DEVELOPER ABOUT SELLING IT AND DOING A ACQUISITION REHAB TO REINVEST IN THAT PROPERTY. 
          UH, SO THERE'S MULTIPLE STRATEGIES THAT WE HAVE TO ADDRESS IT. 
          OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, I'M ALL OVER THE PLACE TOO. 
          I'M GONNA JUMP TO PILLAR SIX. 
          INFRASTRUCTURE AND ALIGNMENT. 
          UM, I THINK I UNDERSTAND THIS, BUT ONE OF THE THINGS I JUST, AND IT MAY HAVE JUST BEEN AN OVERSIGHT, BUT I DIDN'T SEE DISTRICT FOUR IN THERE ON EITHER DISTRICT FOCUS OR SUPPORTING, UH, FROM THERE. 
          AND I'D JUST BE CURIOUS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          UH, COUNCIL MEMBER. 
          UH, SO AGAIN, THIS IS PRELIMINARY DATA, AND BASED UPON THE MULTIPLE FEEDBACK, IT MAKES ME REGRET PUTTING IT IN THE PRESENTATION . 
          BUT, BUT VERY, I WAS GONNA SAY THAT PRELIMINARY DATA AND, AND AS WITH ALL DATA, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          THERE'S SOME GROUNDING THAT HAS TO HAPPEN, RIGHT? YEAH. 
          SO WE'VE DONE THE INITIAL, UH, SORT OF, UH, RUN OF, OF, OF THE PROFILES. 
          OUR PLAN IS TO COME BACK TO YOU AND TRUTH THAT DATA WITH WHAT YOU KNOW. 
          YEAH. 
          AS THE DISTRICT EXPERT. 
          UM, WE KNOW THAT YOU INFRASTRUCTURE 
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IS VERY IMPORTANT TO YOU. 
          YOU PUT INFRASTRUCTURE, ONE OF THE ONLY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT DID IT IN THE LAST BOND ELECTION. 
          AND SO, UM, WE KNOW THAT THAT IS A TRUE THING THAT WILL HAVE TO HAPPEN. 
          UM, I'LL GIVE YOU ANOTHER EXAMPLE. 
          INITIALLY RAN THE PROFILE, UM, AND IT TALKED ABOUT, UH, UH, COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSSOHN'S DISTRICT. 
          UH, WE KNOW THAT SHE HAS A LOT OF NOAA PROPERTY THAT THE DATA DID NOT PICK UP. 
          SO THERE'S SOME ALIGNMENT THAT WE HAVE TO DO, SOME TRUTHING, UM, THAT WE HAVE TO DO. 
          WE'LL PRESENT THAT AT THE NEXT, UH, COMMITTEE MEETING. 
          OKAY. 
          YEAH. 
          AND AGAIN, IT WAS JUST ONE OF THOSE, THAT BOX CONCERNED ME AS WELL. 
          BUT SINCE I WAS LOOKING AT IT, I DIDN'T SEE DISTRICT FOUR, AND I WAS JUST KIND OF WONDERING ABOUT THE METHODOLOGY BEHIND IT. 
          UM, ALL RIGHT. 
          UH, PILLAR SEVEN, YES, PILLAR SEVEN, GOING BACK TO THE COLLABORATION COMMUNITY, AND IT WAS ALL 14 DISTRICTS AND ALL THAT. 
          AND IT'S, AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE WHERE I WAS SURPRISED NOT TO SEE SPECIFIC DISTRICT GIVEN, YOU KNOW, HOW MANY CHURCHES WE HAVE IN SOUTHERN DALLAS AND HOW MUCH LAND THAT WE KNOW THEY OWN, UH, FROM THERE. 
          AND AGAIN, JUST ONE OF THOSE WAS CURIOUS WHY THERE WASN'T, YOU KNOW, NARROWED DOWN TO SOME OF THOSE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE ALL OF THE CHURCH'S PROPERTY. 
          MAYBE IT'S ALL OVER THE CITY, SO MAYBE THAT'S WHY I DON'T, I JUST KNOW IT'S SOUTHERN DALLAS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO WHILE WE HAVE, HAVE A CITYWIDE HOUSING POLICY, AND WE DO NEED TO HAVE PRIORITY AREAS FOR WHERE SOME OF THIS WORK TAKES ON, UM, THERE'S A PROJECT IN EVERYBODY'S DISTRICT, UM, FAIR, UH, AT EITHER A HOMELESS FACILITY, A HOMELESS SERVICES, AFFORDABLE HOUSING DEVELOPMENT, UH, A LITECH, AN EXPIRING LITECH. 
          NEW PROJECTS ARE GONNA COME, UH, AND WE CAN'T MISS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND COLLABORATION WITH PLANNING AND ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND TRANSPORTATION AND WATER AND DATA AND YOU ALL, AND THE COMMUNITY. 
          UH, SO THIS BECOMES AN ESSENTIAL JUST BUSINESS PRACTICE THAT IT'S NOT A SILOED OPPORTUNITY. 
          IT'S CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT. 
          ALL RIGHT. 
          MADAM CHAIR, THAT'S ALL I HAVE NOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CHAIR, UH, DO YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? I DO. 
          THANK YOU, CHAIR FOR GIVING ME AN OPPORTUNITY AS A NON COMMITTEE, HONORARY COMMITTEE MEMBER, SELF, SELF-PROCLAIMED . 
          UM, THIS IS GREAT. 
          REALLY GOOD JOB. 
          I'VE, YOU KNOW, THOSE OF US WHO'VE BEEN AROUND A WHILE HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR AN ACTION PLAN. 
          AND SO THIS IS, THIS IS A GREAT START TO IT. 
          UM, I'M JUST TO, TO MAKE IT EASY, I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH THE PILLARS. 
          UM, I'VE HEARD LIKE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT LIKE, WHERE DID WE COME UP WITH THE NUMBER OF THE 7,000 UNITS ANNUALLY, 3000 HOMEOWNERSHIP. 
          AND I THINK THOSE ARE GREAT QUESTIONS, AND IT'S HARD FOR ME TO, TO ACCEPT THAT. 
          I MEAN, I'M, I'M GOING TO, BUT IT'S HARD FOR ME TO ACCEPT IT NOT KNOWING WHAT WE'RE DOING NOW. 
          LIKE, I THINK WE NEED A BASELINE THAT WE'RE SAYING, ALL RIGHT, AS OF 20 25, 26, WE, WE ARE DOING THIS MUCH ANNUALLY. 
          THIS GOAL IS ACTUALLY BETTER THAN THAT. 
          YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT GOING BACKWARDS OR WE'RE ACTUALLY ACHIEVING SOMETHING. 
          SO CAN WE, CAN WE PROVIDE THAT AS PART OF THE DATABASE? WE, WE, WE WILL. 
          AND AS A REMINDER, IN 2025, WE HIRED HRNA TO PRODUCE THE HOUSING ACTION PLAN. 
          AND THAT'S THE SAME FIRM THAT CPA USED ON THEIR DATA. 
          GREAT. 
          AND SO THERE WAS ALIGNMENT THERE ON ADDRESSING OUR NEEDS. 
          BUT WHAT HRA DID WITH US IS THEY LOOKED AT WHAT OUR HOUSING PILLARS WERE, WHAT THE HOUSING NEEDS WERE, AND THEY ESTABLISHED SOME OF THOSE BASELINE GOALS FOR US YEAR OVER YEAR. 
          AND SO WE CARRY A LOT OF THAT METHODOLOGY FORWARD BECAUSE IT'S STILL WITHIN THE REALM OF WHAT WOULD'VE BEEN THE HOUSING POLICY. 
          BUT WE WILL, IN OUR NEXT PRESENTATION, SHOW YOU THAT DATA, SHOW YOU MORE OF THE ACTION PLAN AND SHOW YOU HOW, WHERE ALL THE DATA COMES FROM. 
          AWESOME. 
          ONE THING THAT, ALONG WITH THE DATA THAT I THINK WE'VE BEEN MISSING, AND I I JUST KNOW NOBODY'S FAULT, BUT IS, IS I HAVEN'T SEEN IT WITH CPA OR ANYBODY ELSE, REALLY, IS THE COMPARISON OF THE, THE BEDROOMS THAT, YOU KNOW, I BROUGHT THIS UP LAST TIME DURING A-A-P-F-C CASE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, YOU, YOU SAY 7,000 RENTAL UNITS, BUT HOW DOES THAT BREAK DOWN TO ONE BEDROOM VERSUS TWO VERSUS THREE BEDROOM UNITS? AND I DON'T WANT US TO LEAVE BEHIND OUR, OUR FAMILIES THAT NEED THREE BEDROOMS JUST TO ACHIEVE A NUMBER. 
          AND MAYBE THAT NUMBER IS ALL ONE BEDROOM UNITS. 
          SO HOW ARE WE DIFFERENTIATING THAT, INCLUDING THAT MIX OF FAMILIES AND OUR GOALS HERE? THANK YOU. 
          UM, THAT, THAT'S A PIECE OF DATA THAT'S, UM, PART OF THE CONVERSATION, BUT NO ONE IS REALLY FOCUSED ON IT. 
          I THINK IN 20, I WANNA SAY 1718, A STATE OF DALLAS HOUSING REPORT FROM BUILDING COMMUNITY WORKSHOP, UH, ADDRESSED BEDROOMS SIZE, UH, BY DISTRICT AND THE GENERAL SHORTAGES. 
          BUT I HAVEN'T SEEN ANYONE REALLY PICK UP THAT QUESTION TO EXAMINE IT MORE FULLY. 
          UH, BUT IT'S A QUESTION I'LL POSED TO OUR FRIENDS AT CPAL TO SEE IF THEY CAN'T HELP US ADDRESS FROM THE DATA SETS THAT THEY ALREADY HAVE. 
          OH, YEAH. 
          AND I, I LOOK AT LIKE A LATER ITEM ON TODAY'S AGENDA. 
          THERE'S LIKE 420 NEW UNITS BEING PRODUCED, AND 12 OF THEM ARE THREE BEDROOM UNITS, 12 OUT OF 420. 
          AND THEN THE VAST MAJORITY ARE ONE BEDROOM UNITS. 
          AND, UM, IT'S JUST, WE, WE GOTTA BRING 
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SOME, SOME DATA TO, TO SUPPORT THESE PROJECTS AS WE APPROVE THEM. 
          UM, SO I'M GLAD YOU'RE LOOKING AT IT. 
          UM, THE ACTION PLAN FOR PILLAR NUMBER ONE TALKS ABOUT ONE TO THREE CITY OWNED SITES ANNUALLY BEING ADVANCED. 
          THAT'S NOT JUST LAND BANK, RIGHT? THAT'S MORE THAN JUST OUR LAND BANK PROPERTIES. 
          YES. 
          UM, CURRENTLY, UH, THINGS LIKE MLK REDEVELOPMENT, LOOKING AT HOW DO WE LEVERAGE CITY SITES TO ACHIEVE THAT 55, UH, THOUSAND GOAL. 
          SO YOU'RE LOOKING OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT POOL OF LAND BANK PROPERTIES INTO OTHER CITY ASSETS THAT NORMALLY MIGHT NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR HOUSING. 
          YEAH. 
          PART OF THE REQUIREMENT FROM HUD IS, UH, THAT WE WILL HAVE TO CREATE A DATABASE OF ALL PUBLIC OWNED LAND. 
          AND SO REALLY TAKING A LOOK AT THAT AND SEEING HOW WE CAN ACTIVATE THAT LAND TO ACHIEVE OUR, OUR GOALS. 
          AND YOU'RE WORKING WITH THE REAL ESTATE MASTER PLAN, I ASSUME ON THAT TOO, AND CBRE, THAT THAT'S RIGHT. 
          AND, AND THAT PLAN WILL ACHIEVE THAT FOR US. 
          UM, THAT COMPLIANCE RELATED FUN FUNCTION. 
          UM, WHAT JAMES IS TALKING ABOUT TOO IS ALSO, UM, 41 50 INDEPENDENCE, UH, MIRAMAR, MLK CENTER, UM, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE THE CONGRESSIONAL FUNDS TO LOOK AT THAT CAMPUS AND THE MASTER PLAN REDESIGN THAT WE'RE WORKING ON IN DISTRICT SEVEN. 
          SO THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES TO LOOK AT WHAT WE ALREADY HAVE, WHAT INFILL OPPORTUNITIES MIGHT EXIST, UM, AND CONTROL THAT NARRATIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          GREAT. 
          UM, MY COLLEAGUES HAVE ASKED SOME GOOD QUESTIONS ABOUT ZONING AND PERMITTING AND HOW THAT PLAYS INTO THIS. 
          I FEEL LIKE AS PART OF THE ACTION PLAN FOR PILLAR NUMBER ONE, UM, WE SHOULD, UH, INCLUDE, UH, DESIGNATING AFFORDABLE HOUSING PROJECTS AS A PREFERRED LAND USE AND FAST TRACK THE PERMITTING AND ENVIRONMENTAL REVIEWS, UH, AND BY DEDICATED TEAMS IN THE PERMITTING OFFICE. 
          I THINK IF, IF WE CAN SHOW THAT COMMITMENT FROM THAT, THE PERMITTING OFFICE FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING PRODUCTION, WE'RE REALLY PUTTING OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS. 
          YEAH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          I'LL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH DIRECTOR LOU ON THAT. 
          AND WE'RE ALSO PART OF ENTERPRISE COMMUNITY PARTNERS COHORT, WHERE WE'RE LOOKING AT OUR DIFFERENT POLICIES AND, UM, UH, WAYS TO ACHIEVE MORE HOUSING PRODUCTION. 
          SO WE WILL ADD THAT TO THE LIST. 
          LOVE NUMBER PILLAR NUMBER TWO, LOVE PILLAR NUMBER THREE. 
          UM, PILLAR NUMBER SEVEN, I REALLY LOVE THE FAITH-BASED INITIATIVE AND THE FACT THAT YOU'RE INCLUDING THAT IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE LAND THAT'S, THAT'S, UM, I THINK YOU MENTIONED BY OUR FAITH-BASED INSTITUTIONS, WE'RE NOT GETTING TAXES ON THAT ALREADY. 
          WE MIGHT AS WELL, UH, HAVE THEM HELP US CONSTRUCT OUR  CONSTRUCT, UH, SOME HOUSING ON THERE. 
          AND I SAW THAT YOU LISTED A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER PARTNERS. 
          I DON'T SEE DALLAS COLLEGE ON THERE. 
          LET'S, UH, MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE THEM. 
          I THINK ABOUT MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE'S CAMPUS AND THE DOZENS AND DOZENS OF ACRES OF JUST WIDE OPEN FIELDS THAT ARE NOT USED FOR SPORTS OR ANYTHING ELSE LIKE COULD BE HOUSING THERE. 
          UM, THAT'S IT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, I DON'T HAVE ANY QUESTIONS AT THIS POINT IN TIME. 
          WHAT I WOULD ALSO ENCOURAGE MY TEAMMATES TO DO IS IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS WHEN WE HAVE, AND I KNOW WE DIDN'T GET THE, THIS, THIS PRESENTATION UNTIL LATE FRIDAY, BUT IF WE SEND QUESTIONS IN BEFOREHAND, WE COULD ALREADY HAVE SOME ANSWERS. 
          WITH THAT BEING SAID, LET'S GO TO, UM, NUMBER ITEM NUMBER B. 
          THANK YOU SO MUCH. 
          UH, MR. ODOM, GOOD MORNING, HONORABLE CHAIR MEMBERS. 
          MADAM CITY MANAGER, UH, KEVIN O I'M THE DIRECTOR OF EMERGENCY MANAGEMENT AND CRISIS RESPONSE. 
          UM, THE, THE PRESENTATION TODAY IS GONNA BE LED BY, UH, MR. ANDREW ROLLO. 
          HE'S OUR PROGRAM ADMINISTRATOR, UH, OVER BOTH THE DALLAS STREET RESPONSE AND THE CITY ACTION STRIKE TEAM. 
          UH, BEFORE WE BEGIN, JUST TWO QUICK THINGS. 
          SO WE, WE LOOK FORWARD TO, UH, COLLABORATION WITH THIS BODY, UM, AS WE MOVE FORWARD, BOTH INDIVIDUAL DISTRICTS AND OPERATIONS WE CONDUCT THERE, BUT THEN ALSO HOW WE'RE PRESENTING THE RESULTS OF THE EFFORTS OF OUR, UH, MEN AND WOMEN OF THE DEPARTMENT. 
          UM, AND THEN ON THAT, I, I HOPE THAT WE WALK AWAY TODAY WITH, UM, OUR BIGGEST OPPORTUNITY THAT WE WORK ON EACH AND EVERY DAY. 
          AND THAT'S PEOPLE IN PLACE INVESTING IN PEOPLE RESTORING PLACES. 
          AND WITH THAT, UH, MR. ROLLO WILL WALK THROUGH THE PRESENTATION, AND THEN WE'LL BE HAPPY TO TAKE ANY QUESTIONS OF THE BODY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UH, THANK YOU, MR. OIN. 
          UH, THANK YOU COMMITTEE AND CHAIR, UH, FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO, TO LEAD THIS PRESENTATION TODAY. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, THE CENTRAL POINT IS THAT STREET HOMELESSNESS CREATES TWO RELATED OUTCOMES THAT REQUIRE DIFFERENT ACCOUNTABLE LEADS. 
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UH, ONE CONCERNS THE PERSON, UH, WHETHER THAT INDIVIDUAL MOVES TO SHELTER, TREATMENT SERVICES, HOUSING, LONG-TERM STABILITY. 
          UH, THE OTHER CONCERNS TO PLACE WHETHER THE CITY, UH, RESTORES THE LOCATION TO ITS INTENDED USE AND PREVENTS THE SAME CONDITION FROM IMMEDIATELY RETURNING A COMPLETE RESPONSE NEEDS TO PURSUE BOTH AT THE SAME TIME, JUDGING DALLAS STREET RESPONSE ONLY BY PERMANENT HOUSING OUTCOME ASSIGNS ONE FIELD TEAM RESPONS, UH, RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE ENTIRE HOMELESS SYSTEM. 
          JUDGING THE SYSTEM ONLY BY WHETHER A SITE WAS CLEANED, IGNORES WHAT HAPPENED TO THE PERSON. 
          UM, AND WE NEED BOTH MEASURES. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE TWO FUNCTIONS, UH, THAT I, YOU KNOW, SPOKE ABOUT, UM, ON A PREVIOUS SLIDE ARE COMPLIMENTARY, UH, BUT THEY'RE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE. 
          UH, DALLAS STREET RESPONSE OR DSR, UH, LEADS THE LOCATION BASED RESPONSE. 
          THE TEAM RECEIVES A SERVICE REQUEST, UH, TYPICALLY THROUGH 3 1 1. 
          UH, WE, UH, PERFORM A SITE ASSESSMENT. 
          WE IDENTIFY, UH, CONDITIONS AT THE SITE. 
          WE DOCUMENT THOSE CONDITIONS. 
          UH, WE ENGAGE WITH ANYBODY THAT'S PRESENT AT THAT SITE, UH, WHETHER THERE'S ENCAMPMENT OR THERE'S PEOPLE THAT WE SEE THAT WE BELIEVE ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WE WILL PERFORM THAT ENGAGEMENT WITH THAT PERSON. 
          UH, WE WILL FACILITATE MOVEMENT INTO IMMEDIATE SHELTER OR OTHER CRISIS SERVICES, UH, AND COORDINATE ANY CLEANUP OR CLOSURE. 
          UH, AND THEN AFTER THE CLOSURE MONITOR THAT LOCATION, THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION CONTRACT CASE MANAGERS, UH, THEY LEAD THE SUSTAIN PERSON, PERSON-CENTERED PATHWAY. 
          UH, THAT WORK INCLUDES REPEATED RELATIONSHIP BUILDING NAVIGATION INTO HOUSING, UH, TREATMENT AND SERVICE CONNECTIONS. 
          UH, CASE MANAGEMENT WITH THOSE THAT ARE, ARE, ARE PLACED INTO, INTO HOUSING OR NAVIGATING, UM, INTO HOUSING, UM, AND LONG-TERM RESOLUTION OF HOMELESSNESS. 
          UH, BOTH TEAMS ENGAGE PEOPLE, AND THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT. 
          UH, BUT THE DISTINCTION IS THE PRIMARY OUTCOMES, UH, THAT EACH TEAM OWNS. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, THE SLIDE, THIS SLIDE SHOWS, UH, CONSISTENT FIELD PROCESS. 
          UH, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT, UH, WE DO NOT BEGIN WITH CLEANUP OR ENFORCEMENT. 
          UH, WE BEGIN WITH, UH, ASSESSING A SITE, UH, WHICH USUALLY, UH, THE SITE ASSESSMENT, UM, AS A RESPONSE TO A REQUEST OR A 3 1 1, UH, A COMPLAINT THAT WE RECEIVE. 
          UH, WE WILL PERFORM THAT SITE ASSESSMENT, UH, DOCUMENT THE CONDITIONS, UH, IDENTIFY ANY IMMEDIATE, ANY IMMEDIATE HEALTH OR SAFETY CONCERNS. 
          UH, WE THEN CLASSIFY THAT RESPONSE, UM, ENGAGE WITH THE PEOPLE PRESENT, UM, THAT I MENTIONED ALREADY. 
          UH, OFFER THOSE SERVICES, UM, PROVIDE NOTICE, UH, HAND DELIVER NOTICE, UM, OR PLACARDS. 
          UH, WE'VE STARTED TO USE PLACARDS. 
          UM, THAT IS A FORM OF NOTICE THAT'S MORE VISIBLE, UM, AND WHEN NOTICE IS REQUIRED. 
          UM, AND THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP, UM, TO, TO, UM, COORDINATE AND CLEAN UP OUR, OUR CLOSURE OF A SITE. 
          UH, THE, THE VISIBLE FIELD ACTION DOES COME LATER AFTER WE'VE MET THOSE STEPS. 
          UM, AND THEN MONITORING FOLLOWS THE ACTION. 
          UH, A COMPLETED CLEANUP DOESN'T NECESSARILY TELL US WHETHER THE IMPROVEMENT HELD OR NOT. 
          UH, THE FRAMEWORK REMAINS CONSISTENT ACROSS THE CITY. 
          UH, SITE CONDITIONS DETERMINE HOW QUICKLY AND INTENSELY THE CITY APPLIES IT. 
          UH, EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT. 
          UM, THERE ARE SITES THAT MAY BE SIMILAR, UM, BUT EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT. 
          UM, AND SO THAT THAT SITE ASSESSMENT THAT WE PERFORM, UH, IS AN IMPORTANT STEP. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          AND I DO WANNA NOTE, UM, THAT, UH, THERE ARE SEVERAL PARTNERS INTERNALLY THAT WE DO WORK WITH. 
          UH, CODE COMPLIANCE, TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS. 
          PARKS AND REC, DALLAS WATER UTILITIES ARE SOME OF THE BIG PARTNERS THAT WE WORK WITH. 
          BUT AS FAR AS THE OUTREACH COMPONENT, ENGAGING WITH PEOPLE, WE ARE VERY, VERY MUCH AT THE FOREFRONT. 
          UM, AND, AND AGAIN, THAT'S AN IMPORTANT STEP. 
          UH, THE COUNCIL AND PUBLIC OFTEN COMPARE TWO VISIBLE LOCATIONS, UM, AND ASK WHETHER THE CITY TREATED THEM DIFFERENTLY. 
          UH, THE ANSWER TO THIS IS THAT CONDITIONS MAY BE DIFFERENT, RIGHT? EVERY EVERY SITE IS UNIQUE. 
          UM, EVERY SITE IS DIFFERENT. 
          A ROUTINE SERVICE REQUEST, UH, MOVES THROUGH OUR STANDARD PROCESS, GETTING THE COMPLAINT ASSESSMENT DOCUMENTATION. 
          UM, AN EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE MAY BE AN IMMEDIATE HEALTH OR SAFETY CONCERN, UM, AND MAY REQUIRE AN ACCELERATOR, AN ACCELERATED RESPONSE. 
          UH, BUT STAFF WILL CONTINUE TO ASSESS, ENGAGE, UM, AND, AND DOCUMENT, UH, HOTSPOTS ARE LARGER, REOCCURRING, OR HIGH IMPACT LOCATIONS. 
          UM, 
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IT REQUIRES A MORE INTENSIVE OUTREACH PERIOD, UH, PLAN, MULTI-DEPARTMENTAL CLOSURE, UM, SITE STABILIZATION MONITORING, AND MORE PRESENCE AT THOSE SITES. 
          UH, CONSISTENCY MEANS THAT ONE FRAMEWORK IN DOCUMENTED, UM, DECISION MAKING, UM, IS IMPORTANT. 
          IT DOES NOT MEAN THAT EVERY SITE RECEIVES THE SAME TIMELINE. 
          AGAIN, THE TIMELINE DEPENDS ON WHAT WE ARE SEEING, WHAT WE ARE OBSERVING AT EACH SITE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, THIS IS THE CLEAREST ANSWER TO THE NARRATIVE THAT A HOTSPOT CLOSURE, UM, IS A SUDDEN SWEEP. 
          UH, AGAIN, WE HAVE A PROCESS THAT WE FOLLOW, UM, TO GET TO A POINT WHERE WE CLEAN A PROPERTY, UH, FOR A PLAN HOTSPOT HOUSING FORWARD, AND THE CONTRACTED CASE MANAGERS, UH, GENERALLY LEAD A FOUR PLUS WEEK, UM, HOUSING PLACEMENT WORK. 
          UM, AGAIN, IT JUST DEPENDS ON THE SITE AND WHAT THAT AMOUNT OF TIME LOOKS LIKE. 
          UH, DALLAS STREET RESPONSE WILL SUPPORT THE FIELD OPERATION, UM, AND WE'LL PLAN THE CLOSURE WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. 
          UM, AFTER THAT CLOSURE HAPPENS. 
          UH, CITY STABILIZES THE LOCATION, UM, AND THEN WE WILL MONITOR IT. 
          UH, THE TRUCKS, THE CLEANUP CREWS ARE, ARE THE MOST VISIBLE, UH, PHASE. 
          UM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE BEGINNING. 
          UH, NOR IS IT THE END. 
          THE FULL MODEL INCLUDES SUSTAINED WORK, UM, BEFORE AND AFTER THAT DAY, WHAT WE CALL A CLOSURE DAY. 
          UM, AND THAT'S, THAT CLOSURE DAY IS SOMETHING THAT WE AGREE UPON WITH HOUSING FORWARD, UM, THAT WE COORDINATE FROM THE START SO THAT WE KNOW WHEN WE'RE COMING IN TO, TO, TO CLOSE THAT SITE. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, THIS IS A, THE CLEAR SYSTEM LEVEL DEMAND MEASURE. 
          UM, IN THIS BRIEFING, UH, DSR MANAGED ALMOST 12,000 SERVICE REQUESTS IN THE PRIOR COMPARISON PERIOD, UM, AND OVER 8,500, UM, IN THE CURRENT PERIOD. 
          SO THAT'S 3,423 LESS SERVICE REQUESTS, UM, WHICH ACCOUNTS FOR A 20 OR 28.6% REDUCTION, UM, ACROSS THE IDENTICAL OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH, UH, SEPTEMBER 17TH, UH, WINDOWS. 
          THE MEASURE DOESN'T BY ITSELF, UH, PROVE THAT HOMELESSNESS DECLINED BY 28.6%. 
          UH, IT DOES SHOW THAT SUBSTANTIALLY FEWER LOCATION CONCERNS ENTERED OUR WORKFLOW. 
          UH, WHILE THE TEAM CONTINUED TO ASSESS LOCATIONS, ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE AND MONITOR SITES, UM, IT'S MEANINGFUL EVIDENCE THAT REPEAT DEMAND IS, IS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, OUR TEAM HAS ESTABLISHED, UH, AN EARLIER OPERATING, UH, EXPECTATION INSIDE THE BROADER 3 1 1 SERVICE CYCLE. 
          UM, AS OF SEPTEMBER 17TH OF THIS YEAR, UH, 82% OF ENCAMPMENT REQUESTS WERE IN WERE ADDRESSED WITHIN FIVE DAYS. 
          UM, A FIVE DAY WINDOW, UH, WHICH IS DISPLAYED ON OUR DSR DASHBOARD. 
          UH, THAT EARLY RESPONSE MATTERS BECAUSE STAFF MUST VERIFY LOCATION, UM, IDENTIFY SAFETY CONDITIONS, ENGAGE WITH PEOPLE, DETERMINE THE CORRECT PATH, UM, BEFORE THE CITY CLOSES A, A SITE, OR CLOSES THAT REQUEST. 
          RATHER, UH, THE COMMITTEE SHOULD READ THIS AS A RESPONSIVE MEASURE, NOT AS A PROMISE THAT EVERY ENCAMPMENT CAN BE PERMANENTLY RESOLVED IN FIVE DAYS. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          THE 3 1 1 REQUEST OR REPORT THAT WE RECEIVE, UM, IS THE BEGINNING OF OUR FIELD ASSESSMENT. 
          UM, WE DOCUMENT THAT, WHAT WE CALL OUTREACH ASSESSMENTS. 
          UM, IT'S NOT NECESSARILY PROOF THAT AN ENCAMPMENT EXISTS. 
          UM, I'VE TALKED ABOUT VERIFYING A SITE. 
          UM, WE HAVE TO RESPOND TO THAT SERVICE REQUEST AND VERIFY THE CONDITIONS. 
          UM, SO WITHIN THAT, OUR TEAM IS THE MONTH OF AUGUST, HAVE VERIFIED 139, UM, EXISTING ENCAMPMENTS BASED ON THE 3 1 1 RESPONSE, 190, UH, 196 LOCATIONS RESULTED IN WE DIDN'T VERIFY AN ENCAMPMENT OR PERSON EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. 
          UM, IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO, UH, DETERMINE OWNERSHIP, JURISDICTION, INFRASTRUCTURE, UM, IMMEDIATE RISKS THAT ALL AFFECT, UH, WHAT THE CITY CAN DO, AND, AND, AND HOW QUICKLY WE CAN ACT. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE PLEASE. 
          SO, THE ENGAGEMENT TREND, UM, DIRECTLY ADDRESSES A CONCERN THAT THE CITY HAS MOVED AWAY FROM OUTREACH. 
          UM, OUTREACH IS VERY MUCH AT THE FOREFRONT OF WHAT WE DO, UM, AND AN IMPORTANT STEP. 
          UH, WE VERY MUCH, UH, LEAD WITH THAT RESPONSE. 
          UH, WE RECORDED 1800, OVER 1800, UH, FIELD ENGAGEMENTS IN AUGUST. 
          UH, 
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THAT'S OUR HIGHEST COMPLETED MONTH VALUE THAT'S SHOWN. 
          UM, THESE ARE DOCUMENTED CONTACTS WITH INDIVIDUALS, UM, NOT UNIQUE PEOPLE, UH, BUT MAYBE REPEATED ENGAGEMENTS. 
          SO WE DO, WE DO HAVE TO, AT TIMES, UH, GO BACK OUT TO ENCAMPMENTS. 
          AND MOST OFTEN THAN NOT, UH, WHEN WE DO CLEAN A SITE, WE WILL STILL PERFORM OUTREACH, UM, AND GIVE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR SOMEONE TO ACCEPT SERVICES. 
          THE CURRENT RESOURCE REFERRAL ACCEPTANCE RATE 25%, UM, UM, SHOWS THAT THE SERVICES THAT ARE, UH, ACCEPTED THROUGH OUR ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, AND SO ANOTHER IMPORTANT NOTE IS THAT, UH, SERVICES ARE VOLUNTARY. 
          UH, WE CAN'T FORCE SOMEONE TO TAKE SERVICES. 
          UM, SO ANYTIME WE, UM, TRY TO HELP SOMEBODY AND THEY ACCEPT THOSE SERVICES, OR WE TRANSPORT SOMEBODY, THAT'S A, THAT'S A VOLUNTARY ACCEPTANCE. 
          UH, THE RIGHT OPERATIONAL RESPONSE IS CONTINUED ENGAGEMENT, ACCURATE AND PROPER DOCUMENTATION, UM, AND A CLEAR HANDOFF OR WHAT WE CALL A WARM HANDOFF, UM, WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL ACCEPTS HELP. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, THIS COMMITTEE HAS CORRECTLY OBSERVED THAT CLEANING A SITE, UM, CAN SIMPLY MOVE THE CONDITION SOMEWHERE ELSE. 
          UM, THAT'S WHY WE MEASURE WHETHER CLEAR CLEARED GRIDS REMAIN CLOSED FOR, FOR 30 DAYS. 
          UH, OUR CURRENT RATE IS 61%. 
          UH, THIS IS A STRONGER PLACE BASED OUTCOME THAN COUNTING CLEANUPS, UH, BECAUSE IT ASKS WHETHER THE INTERVENTION HELD OR NOT, UH, WHETHER A LOCATION DOES NOT HOLD, OUR TEAM HAS TO EXAMINE, UH, WHAT CONTINUES TO ATTRACT THAT ACTIVITY, UH, WHETHER THE INTENDED USE IS CLEAR OR NOT, UM, AND WHAT MONITORING OR PHYSICAL CHANGES ARE NEEDED. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, DOWNTOWN IS THE STRONGEST PROOF POINT, UH, OF THE COMBINED MODEL, UM, HOUSING FORWARD REPORTS THAT, THAT ALL IDENTIFIED ENCAMPMENTS HAVE IN DOWNTOWN HAVE BEEN PERMANENTLY CLOSED. 
          UH, WHILE STREET HOMELESSNESS DECLINED BY MORE THAN 80%, UH, THE PLACE OUTCOME DID NOT REPLACE THE PERSON OUTCOME. 
          UH, THE TWO FUNCTIONS WORKED TOGETHER. 
          UH, THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM, UH, LED THE SUSTAINED PATHWAYS FOR INDIVIDUALS, AND THE CITY MAINTAINED THE PUBLIC SPACES AFTER CLOSURE. 
          UH, THIS IS THE OPERATING MODEL. 
          WE SHOULD CONTINUE TO APPLY WHEN THE REQUIRED RESOURCES AND SITE CONDITIONS ALLOW FOR IT. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          SO, THE CITY ACTION STRIKE TEAM OR CAST, UM, EXTENDS THE SAME PRINCIPLE BEYOND ENCAMPMENTS, UH, CHRONIC, UH, QUALITY OF LIFE PROBLEMS, UM, USUALLY SPAN ACROSS DEPARTMENTAL LINES. 
          UM, ISSUES SUCH AS ILLEGAL DUMPING, UH, HOMELESSNESS, PUBLIC SAFETY CONDITIONS, UH, BLIGHT, WHICH OFFERS A BROAD, UM, RANGE OF, OF ISSUES FROM TRASH, LITTER TO OVERGROWN, LOTS TO SUBSTANDARD STRUCTURES TO GRAFFITI, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH, UM, CAN REINFORCE, REINFORCE ONE ANOTHER AT THE SAME, SAME TIME, SAME LOCATION. 
          UH, CAST IDENTIFIES A PLACE DIAGNOSES WHAT IS DRIVING THAT CONDITION, UH, COORDINATES WITH THE RESPONSIBLE DEPARTMENTS, UH, INTERVENES, AND THEN MAKES CHANGES TO THE ENVIRONMENT, UM, AND ATTEMPTS TO MAINTAIN THAT IMPROVEMENT. 
          UH, THE MODEL HAS OPERATED AT MORE THAN 150 HOTSPOTS AND LOCATIONS WITH A RECORDED MORE THAN 1300, UH, TARGETED INTERVENTIONS FROM A PERIOD OF JUNE THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF, OF 2026. 
          UH, WE'VE HAD OTHER CITIES APPROACH US AND TALK WITH US ABOUT OUR MODEL, UM, AND WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE IN THE CITY. 
          UM, TO NOTE, UH, NEW ORLEANS, UH, ALBUQUERQUE, UH, SAN JOSE FORT WORTH HAVE APPROACHED US, AND, AND, AND WE, WE'VE, UM, KIND OF TALKED ABOUT THINGS THAT WE DO HERE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, THE CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB RECEIPT PAL, UH, HAS STUDIED CRIME WITHIN ONE QUARTER MILE OF PRO PROJECT LOCATIONS. 
          UM, THOSE LOCATIONS, UM, CONSIDERED DICE LOCATIONS OR DATA INFORMED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. 
          UM, IT COUNTED 888 INCIDENTS, UM, IN THE PREVIOUS YEAR AND, AND 770, UM, IN THIS PROJECT YEAR, WHICH IS A 20, UH, 0.4% DECLINE. 
          UM, THE STUDY AL ALSO FOUND A 30.5% DECLINE FROM THE FIRST SIX MONTHS TO THE LAST SIX MONTHS OF THE PROJECT YEAR. 
          UH, CAST AND DICE ARE OUR COMPLIMENTARY BASED MODELS. 
          AGAIN, WE, WE WORK CLOSELY WITH, UH, WITH CPA. 
          UM, WE SHOULD DESCRIBE THIS RESULT PRECISELY. 
          THE ANALYSIS SHOWS A SUBSTANTIAL DECLINE NEAR THE, UH, STUDY PROJECT LOCATIONS. 
          UM, IT DOESN'T ISOLATE CAS OR DICE AS A SOLE CAUSE. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE, SLIDE PLEASE. 
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SO, WHILE DALLAS STREET RESPONSE LEADS, UH, THE PLACE-BASED RESPONSE, UM, AND HOUSING FORWARD, AND THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION LEAD THE, UH, SUSTAINED PERSON-CENTERED PATHWAY, UM, OUTREACH AND SERVICES PROCEED, ANY PLAN CLOSURE, UM, THE CITY MUST CONTINUE TO MANAGE A LOCATION AFTER THE VISIBLE OPERATION ENDS. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, THE SYSTEM IS PRODUCING MEASURABLE RESULTS. 
          WE TALKED ABOUT THE 2020 8.6, UH, PERCENT DECLINE WITH FEWER, UH, DSR MANAGED SERVICE REQUESTS. 
          UH, 82% ADDRESSED WITHIN A FIVE, UM, FIVE DAY, UH, SLA OR SERVICE LEVEL AGREEMENT. 
          UH, 61% OF CLEARED GRIDS THAT REMAIN CLOSED FOR AT LEAST 30 DAYS. 
          UH, WE'LL CONTINUE TO REPORT THESE RESULTS TO OUR DASHBOARD, UM, AND CONTINUE, CONTINUE TO IMPROVE THOSE MEASURES, UM, THAT FILL CONNECTIVITY TO PERSONS AND, AND, AND PLACE, UH, BASED OUTCOMES. 
          NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. 
          UH, NEXT SLIDE. 
          SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, UM, AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE, WE SHARE WITH THE, THE COMMUNITY ON A CONSISTENT BASIS, UH, FOR IMMEDIATE DANGERS, LIFE-THREATENING SITUATIONS, EMERGENCY SITUATIONS, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, UH, FOR RESIDENTS TO CALL 9 1 1. 
          UM, IF SOMEONE IS, IS EXPERIENCING A BEHAVIORAL HEALTH CRI CRISIS, UM, IT'S IMPORTANT TO, TO CALL NINE ONE ONE. 
          UM, AND THAT CALL IS ROUTED TO THE APPROPRIATE POLICE FIRE, EMS, UM, OR OTHER CRISIS RESPONSE BASED RESOURCES SUCH AS RIGHT CARE MEDIC PROGRAM. 
          UM, A LOCATION-BASED ENCAMPMENT CONCERN, UH, SHOULD BE ENTERED THROUGH 3 1 1 VIA CALLING 3 1 1, UH, VIA SUBMITTING A REQUEST THROUGH THE WEBSITE, UH, THROUGH THE PHONE APP. 
          UH, WE DO OPERATE, UH, SEVEN DAYS PER WEEK. 
          UH, WE ARE NOT 24 7, UH, BUT THAT, THAT 3 1 1 REQUEST IS NOT AN IMMEDIATE, IMMEDIATE EMERGENCY, UH, DISPATCH. 
          UH, BUT IT BEGINS OUR PROCESS, UM, AND WE UTILIZE SALESFORCE, UH, FOR OUR, FOR OUR CASE MANAGEMENT. 
          UM, AND FINALLY, LAST SLIDE. 
          THESE MEASURES, UH, SHOULD NOT BE, COMP CAN BE COMBINED INTO ONE GENERIC COUNT OF SUCCESS. 
          UM, I THINK EACH ANSWER IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION. 
          UH, SERVICE REQUEST MEASURE THE DEMAND, UH, VERIFICATION SEPARATES, REPORTED LOCATIONS FROM CONFIRMED ENCAMPMENTS, UH, ENGAGEMENTS, MEASURE DOCUMENTED CONTACTS, UH, REFERRAL ACCEPTANCE MEASURES, UH, A VOLUNTARY DECISION FROM SOME FOR SOMEBODY, UH, TO ACCEPT SERVICES AT THE POINT THAT OUR TEAM ENGAGES IN THE FIELD, UM, THE 30 DAY CLOSURE RATE MEASURES, WHETHER THE PLACE-BASED RESULT HELD, UH, BUT TOGETHER THEY PROVIDE A BALANCED VIEW OF ACTIVITY, UH, HUMAN CONNECTION, AND THEN PLACE OUTCOMES. 
          UM, AND WITH THAT, THAT CONCLUDES OUR PRESENTATION, AND WE'RE HAPPY TO, TO TAKE QUESTIONS. 
          UM, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION. 
          I'M GONNA START WITH ASKING A FEW QUESTIONS. 
          UM, CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US HOW YOU MET, HOW YOU DID CON, HOW YOU, YOU PROVIDED YOUR MEASUREMENTS, UH, SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU, A NUMBER, SLIDE NUMBER, OH, I DON'T KNOW WHICH ONE THIS IS WHERE IT SAYS CRIME INCIDENTS DECLINE NEAR, UH, TARGETED PROJECT LOCATIONS. 
          WHEN YOU SAID THERE'S 20.4% FEWER GUN VIOLENCES, ARE YOU SAYING THAT THE HOMELESS HAD GUNS OR WERE THEY TARGETED IT? NO, MA'AM. 
          SO WE, WE USE AN INDEPENDENT OUTSIDE GROUP. 
          SO IT, IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE, WHILE WE'RE, WE'RE PRESENTING ON DALLAS STREET RESPONSE AND CAST, AND THEY BOTH WORK ON PLACE AND PERSON-CENTERED WORK, THEY'RE FOCUSED ON DIFFERENT THINGS. 
          SO FOR CAST, OUR GENERAL LOAD STAR, OR I'M SORRY, NORTH STAR, UM, UH, MEASURE IS INCIDENTS OF GUN VIOLENCE IN HIGH CRIME AREAS, BECAUSE THAT'S HOW WE MODEL THE CITY TO DETERMINE PLACES WE GO. 
          WE PROVIDE ALL OF OUR DATA OBJECTIVELY TO CHILD POVERTY ACTION LAB. 
          AND THEIR MEASURING FOR US WHETHER OR NOT THE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPROVEMENTS WE'RE MAKING ARE HAVING A DIRECT IMPACT ON GUN VIOLENCE INCIDENTS. 
          SO THAT IS THEIR NUMBER OF ASSESSING OUR EFFORTS BY THE CAST TEAM. 
          SO ARE YOU SAYING THAT ALL YOUR DATA FOR THIS IS COMING FROM CHILD ACT, FROM THE CHILD PARK, UH, ? NO, MA'AM. 
          JUST THIS SLIDE RIGHT HERE, THE REST OF THE NUMBERS, PARTICULARLY THOSE THAT RELATE TO THE DALLAS STREET RESPONSE TEAM, ALL OF THOSE NUMBERS ARE AVAILABLE ON, UM, OUR DASHBOARD, WHICH WE'VE 
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PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED TO THIS COMMITTEE. 
          AND SO WE'RE, WE'RE PROVIDING THOSE NUMBERS TO YOU IN THIS PRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, I'M GOING TO START, I'M GOING TO START WITH CHAIR GRACIE WITH THIS ONE, AND I'M GONNA LET, AND I'M GONNA MOVE IT TO THE LEFT THAT WAY. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          I JUST, UM, AND I APPRECIATE THIS PRESENTATION. 
          UM, AND SOMETIMES WHEN WE SEE, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE NUMBERS PRESENT IS NOT ALWAYS WHAT WE SEEM TO EXPERIENCE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND IT'S, IT'S ALWAYS THAT, THAT, YOU KNOW, POINT IN TIME VERSUS, UH, REAL TIME THERE. 
          SO MY QUESTION IS, I KNOW WE'VE SEEN DECREASES IN, IN, YOU KNOW, DOWNTOWN AND AREAS LIKE THAT, BUT HAVE WE SEEN INCREASES IN OTHER PARTS OF THE CITY, JUST OUTTA CURIOSITY? YEAH, SO IF YOU'LL, IF YOU'LL GO TO THE SLIDE WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THE ENCAMPMENT LOCATIONS, WE'VE SEEN A REAL SHIFT OVER THE PAST, UH, PROBABLY FOUR TO FIVE MONTHS FROM, UH, VERIFIED ENCAMPMENTS BEING AT PUBLIC SPACES TO BEING ON PRIVATE PROPERTIES. 
          SO, UM, WE'VE SEEN THAT BE A BIG TREND. 
          WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CODE COMPLIANCE DEPARTMENT, UM, ON HOW WE CAN DO BETTER OUTREACH, QUICKER OUTREACH FOR WHEN THOSE COME UP. 
          THAT HAS BEEN THE BIGGEST CHANGE WE'VE SEEN SINCE EARLY SUMMER TO TODAY. 
          AND, AND, AND IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THAT ON THE PRIVATE PROPERTY, IS IT STILL, UM, I CAN NEVER REMEMBER WHAT IT IS, BUT THE, UM, I'M GONNA CALL IT A-C-C-T-A, IS THAT STILL KIND OF ONE OF THE REQUIREMENTS IN ORDER TO HELP ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE ON PRIVATE? 'CAUSE IN, IN SOME OF OUR DISTRICTS, WE HAVE IT WHERE THEY ARE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY AND WANNA BE ABLE TO HELP FACILITATE SOME OF THESE DISCUSSIONS. 
          SO REALLY TRYING TO GET AN UNDERSTANDING AS WE SEE IT KIND OF STARTING TO SHIFT IN DIFFERENT PARTS. 
          AND PARTICULARLY PRIVATE PROPERTY IS A, I THINK IT'S A CRIMINAL TRESPASSING AFFIDAVIT. 
          IS THAT PART OF THE PROCESS TO HELP WITH, UH, CLEARING SOME OF THESE ENCAMPMENTS? IT IS PART OF THE PROCESS. 
          IT'S ONE PIECE, UH, I WOULD SAY VEGETATION REMOVAL FENCING. 
          UM, BUT IT'S, IT'S RESEARCH AND FINDING OUT WHO OWNS THAT PROPERTY. 
          UM, AND THEN, OR, OR IF IT'S A BUSINESS OR IF THERE'S AN EMPLOYEE, LIKE IT'S, IT'S PART OF THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PIECE. 
          BUT, UH, CRIMINAL TRESPASS, A AFFIDAVIT DEFINITELY. 
          UM, AND THEN HELPING THAT, THAT OWNER, UH, THROUGH THAT PROCESS AND THEN CONNECTING THEM WITH, UH, DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT YEP. 
          SO THAT THEY HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT THAT PROCESS LOOKS LIKE AND WHAT THE EXPECTATION IS. 
          SO YEAH, THAT IS ONE PIECE. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          UH, FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, I'M GONNA ASK THAT WE HOLD, WE, WE FOCUS OUR QUESTIONS AND MINIMIZE THE TIME WE'RE WE'RE TAKING. 
          AGAIN, I'M GONNA ALSO ASK THAT IF WE HAVE A LOTS OF QUESTIONS WHEN WE HAVE THE PRESENTATIONS, IT MIGHT HELP IF WE GET THE PRESENTATIONS A LITTLE BIT EARLIER THAN FRIDAY NIGHT SO THAT WE CAN SEND QUESTIONS OUT BEFOREHAND SO WE CAN HAVE A MORE, UH, FOCUSED QUESTION AND ANSWER. 
          UM, WITH THAT, I'M GONNA GO TO CHAIR WILLIS. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO LOOKING AT THE HOTSPOT CLOSURES, AND, UH, THANK YOU FOR IDENTIFYING THAT UNTIL WE GET TO STAGE THREE SITE STABILIZATION, PEOPLE MAY NOT SEE ACTIVITY AROUND IT. 
          SO THAT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO EDUCATE THE PUBLIC ABOUT. 
          BUT AS PART OF THE ASSESSMENT OF THAT SITE, UNDERSTANDING WHETHER THERE ARE FIREARMS PRESENT OR OTHER WEAPONS, IS THAT PART OF WHAT IS BEING GAUGED FOR THE SAFETY OF THOSE WHO ARE GOING TO CLEAN THE SITE? UH, POTENTIALLY, YES. 
          YEAH. 
          AND IF IT'S A SAFETY ASPECT, IF, IF OUR AND OUR TEAM HAS IDENTIFIED WEAPONS AT ENCAMPMENTS, UM, SO THEN WE WOULD, UH, LOOK TO LAW ENFORCEMENT, UH, FOR, FOR SAFETY AND SECURITY WHEN GOING BACK TO THAT SITE. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN IS THERE A READ ON WHO, WHO YOU'RE TALKING TO? I MEAN, I KNOW THEY'RE, YOU'RE ASKING FOR THEM TO VOLUNTARILY GIVE INFORMATION, BUT I'M JUST WONDERING, YOU KNOW, FELONS CAN'T HAVE FIREARMS. I'M JUST WONDERING IF THIS IS ANOTHER TOUCH POINT, SPEAKING TO WHAT YOU'VE RAISED AROUND GUN VIOLENCE DECLINING. 
          IS THIS ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WE'RE SEEING FIREARMS HERE AND THEN WE'RE SEEING SOME PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE OWNING FIREARMS? SO WE CAN LET THAT YEAH, I'LL, I'LL, I'LL PROVIDE YOU SOME, SOME SPECIFIC NUMBERS. 
          'CAUSE WE WERE ACTUALLY TALKING ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY. 
          SO WE HAVE WORKED A TOTAL OF 55 0 EITHER HOTSPOT OR EXIGENT LOCATIONS OVER THE PAST YEAR, UH, AT THOSE LOCATIONS, THERE HAVE BEEN A TOTAL OF 142 FELONY ARREST. 
          WOW. 
          THAT'S NOT A, A CAMPING CITATION OR ANYTHING ELSE. 
          THAT'S A FELONY ARREST FOR ANY NUMBER OF REASONS. 
          AT THOSE SAME 50 SITES, HOWEVER, WE HAVE 
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HAD 191 PLACEMENTS, EITHER IN SHELTER, ALCOHOL, DRUG TREATMENT, A PERSON'S GOING TO HOSPITAL FOR, FOR UNTREATED, UH, MEDICAL CONDITIONS, UH, THE, LIKE. 
          WE'VE ALSO HAD, UM, AS OF OUR MOST RECENT, UM, HOTSPOT LOCATIONS, OVER A HUNDRED PEOPLE ACTUALLY HOUSED OUT OF HOTSPOT LOCATIONS. 
          AND THAT'S DONE BY OUR, OUR FRIENDS AT, AT HOUSING FORWARD. 
          SO, UH, WE HAVE HAD A, A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT, I BELIEVE, ON, UM, BOTH THE, THE PLACE, BUT ALSO THE PEOPLE AS WELL AS THE SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY BY FOLLOWING THIS MODEL. 
          SO THESE FELONY ARRESTS, TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. 
          I MEAN, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WAS OCCURRING THEN THAT THEY WERE ABLE TO, SO I WOULD PROBABLY HAVE TO GET SPECIFICS FROM DPD ON THAT. 
          I JUST HAVE THE, THE MACRO NUMBER. 
          MY, THIS IS MY EXPERIENCE FROM SPEAKING WITH OUR PARTNERS OVER THERE. 
          GENERALLY SPEAKING, YOU'RE TALKING WARRANTS AND THAT SORT OF THING. 
          OKAY. 
          SO, AND I UNDERSTAND YOU'RE TRYING TO SHOW, HERE'S THE PROMISING SIDE OF THIS, GETTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING AND INTO SHELTER, BUT THIS IS ALSO, I MEAN, WE KNOW THERE ARE FIREARMS AND DRUGS AND OTHER THINGS THAT CONCENTRATE THERE. 
          IT ALSO MAKES THE PEOPLE THERE MORE VULNERABLE. 
          RIGHT. 
          AND I WOULD ADD THAT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE'S FIREARMS, GUN VIOLENCE, CRIME, THAT THAT COULD, UH, INITIATE AN, AN EX EXIGENT CIRCUMSTANCE THAT WOULD THEREFORE, UM, START A, A DIFFERENT PROCESS AND ACCELERATE OUR RESPONSE. 
          OKAY. 
          NOW I'M GONNA SKIP TO THE SLIDE. 
          PLEASE DO SLIDE NUMBERS NEXT TIME. 
          UH, ON DOCUMENTED FIELD ENGAGEMENTS. 
          SO ONE OF THE THINGS YOU SAID, MR. ROLLO, WAS WE CAN'T FORCE SOMEONE TO TAKE SERVICES. 
          SO IF SOMEONE IS MOVING FROM SITE TO SITE, AND I KNOW THE WORK THAT YOU DO HERE IS TO GET PEOPLE TO TAKE SERVICES AND HOPEFULLY MOVE THEM ONTO A BETTER PATHWAY. 
          BUT HOW DO WE, IF YOU'VE GOT SOMEONE WHO IS, YOU KNOW, CAMPING IN PUBLIC AND IS JUST MOVING FROM SITE TO SITE, HOW DO WE TIGHTEN THOSE OPTIONS SO THAT IT'S IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A, A CHOICE? YEAH. 
          SO, UH, THERE ARE SITES THAT, UM, WE, WE MAY CLEAN AND THEY, UM, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE BACK TO, UH, ACTIVE ENCAMPMENTS AND WE OFTEN SEE US THE SAME PEOPLE AT THOSE ENCAMPMENTS. 
          AND SO, UM, THAT MIGHT, UH, INITIATE A DIFFERENT RESPONSE WHERE WE HAVE TO CALL IN LAW ENFORCEMENT TO, TO SUPPORT US. 
          SO HOW DO YOU GAUGE THAT THOUGH? UH, DEPENDING ON WHAT OUR, OUR, WHAT OUR STAFF IS SEEING IN THE FIELD. 
          UM, AND I THINK THAT'S CONSISTENT COMMUNICATION WITH WHAT OUR STAFF IS SEEING AND WHAT THEY'RE REPORTING. 
          BUT IS IT DOCUMENTED, LIKE IN HMIS, THEY'RE ABLE TO GO IN AND SAY, THIS PERSON HAS MOVED FROM SITE TO SITE TO SITE AND THEY'RE JUST GONNA KEEP DOING THIS. 
          OR, SO WE, WE DOCUMENT AND SALESFORCE, UH, THROUGH SERVICE REQUESTS AND OUR OUTREACH ASSESSMENTS. 
          OKAY. 
          MY VERY LAST QUESTION IS ON, UH, THE LAST PAGE BEFORE THE APPENDIX COORDINATED MODEL PRODUCING MEASURABLE RESULTS. 
          YOU TALK ABOUT THE 61% OF CLEARED GRIDS REMAINING CLOSED FOR 30 DAYS. 
          DOES THE DASHBOARD ALSO CAPTURE 60 DAYS, 90 DAYS, 120 DAYS? HOW, WHAT'S THE LONGITUDE ON THAT? SO CURRENTLY OUR STANDARD, AND THE REASON WE WE CHOSE 30 DAYS IS, IS GENERALLY SPEAKING, THAT'S KIND OF A, A STANDARD OF, OF LITERATURE WE'VE REVIEWED OF TAKING A 300 FOOT BY 300 FOOT GRID AND MEASURING, IF YOU MAKE AN INTERVENTION, DOES THAT INTERVENTION HOLD IN A 30 DAY CYCLE? IT'S POTENTIAL, WE COULD LOOK AT IT IN 60, 90 DAY INCREMENTS. 
          UM, HOWEVER, THE, THE SITES THAT WE COORDINATE WITH HOUSING FORWARD ON THAT ARE THE, THE TRUE HOTSPOTS THAT WE ALL KNOW, UH, HAVE HAD REPEATED SERVICE REQUESTS OVER 90 DAY PERIODS. 
          WE'RE PRIORITIZING THOSE FOR THE PROCESS THAT MR. ROLO LAID OUT OF GETTING FOLKS OUT OF THE ENCAMPMENT THROUGH HOUSING FIRST, THEN COMING UP WITH A PLAN FOR THE SITE TO HARDEN IT, CLOSE IT DOWN, UH, AND, AND MAINTAIN THE CLOSURE. 
          SO BY THE 30 DAY, IF WE'RE SEEING SITES COME BACK ON THAT REPETITIVELY, THAT TRIGGERS HIS TEAM, UM, AS WELL AS OUR, OUR CONTRACTED STAFF TO HAVE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT, OKAY, THESE INTERVENTIONS ARE NOT DO TAKING, DO WE NEED TO TRY AND MOVE THIS UP THE PRIORITY LIST? OKAY. 
          'CAUSE SOME OF THAT'S GEOGRAPHIC, AND I WOULD SAY THE PUBLIC PERCEPTION IS YOU CLEAR A SITE AND THEN THEY JUST COME BACK. 
          AND I KNOW THERE'S LESS OF THAT. 
          YOU ALL ARE MAKING PROGRESS FOR SURE. 
          BUT THAT IT WAS JUST ONE SOMETHING I WANTED TO BE AWARE OF. 
          YEAH. 
          AND, AND I WANT TO ADD BRIEFLY, UM, THE NUMBER ONE GOAL WE HAVE, UM, AND STATE THIS COMPLETELY ON THE RECORD, IS WHEN WE GO TO A SITE TO CLEAN IT UP, WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY THERE, AND WE DON'T WANT ANYBODY THERE BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO GET THEM HOUSED. 
          WE WERE ABLE TO GET 'EM INTO SHELTER, WE WERE ABLE TO GET 'EM INTO TREATMENT, WHATEVER THE NEED IS THAT HAD THE PERSON LIVING AT THAT LOCATION, WE WANT THAT MET. 
          UM, AND, AND ON 
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MANY OCCASIONS WE DO GET THAT, THAT'S THE REASON WE'RE ABLE TO MAINTAIN AN 82% RATE OF ADDRESSING SERVICE REQUESTS IN FIVE DAYS. 
          THE, THE CAVEAT TO THE FIVE DAY IS WE HAVE 21 DAYS TO ADDRESS SERVICE REQUESTS. 
          SO FIVE IS US MOVING VERY, VERY QUICKLY TRYING TO GET PERSONS HELP. 
          THE NUMBER ONE THING THAT WE CAN GET FROM THIS COUNCIL, FROM EXTERNAL, FROM OUR PARTNERS, EVERYBODY, IS TO CONTINUE TO PUSH ON CHANGING THE MINDSET IN THE FIELD. 
          IF OUR FRIENDS IN THE FIELD THAT WE'RE TRYING TO SERVE, TRULY UNDERSTAND AND BELIEVE THAT GOING TO SHELTER LEADS TO AN EFFECTIVE EXIT FROM HOMELESSNESS, THAT MAKES OUR JOB SIGNIFICANTLY EASIER. 
          WE CAN GET 'EM THERE, WE CAN GET 'EM IN QUICKLY, THEY CAN GET A BED QUICKLY, AND THE BEDS ARE TURNING OVER BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GETTING HOUSED. 
          UM, THIS COUNCIL HAS, HAS INVESTED HEAVILY IN THAT PROGRAM. 
          WE HOPE THAT THAT PROGRAM IS SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THAT HAS A DIRECT SPILLOVER EFFECT TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN OUR WORLD. 
          WELL, I THINK WE NEED TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE, AND THAT 82% STATISTIC IN FIVE DAYS CLEARING IS, IS, UM, OUTSTANDING. 
          SO THANK YOU. 
          UH, VICE CHAIR, DO YOU HAVE A NAME FACE LIST FOR ALL THE PEOPLE THAT YOU ENCOUNTER? UH, NO, WE DON'T. 
          UM, WHEN WE'RE PERFORMING OUR ENGAGEMENTS AT ENCAMPMENTS, UM, OR EVEN WHEN THERE'S NO ENCAMPMENT AND THERE'S A PERSON THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH, THEY DON'T ALWAYS, UH, PROVIDE THEIR NAME. 
          UM, BUT WE DON'T, WE DON'T HAVE A LIST, UH, WITH NAMES OF THOSE THAT WE'RE ENGAGING WITH. 
          DO YOU RECOGNIZE THAT IT'S A BEST PRACTICE TO DO THAT SO THAT I'LL, I'LL CHIME IN. 
          THAT DOES EXIST WHEN WE GET SOMEBODY INTO A SHELTER OR A PARTNER, THEY'RE ENTERED INTO THE HMIS SYSTEM. 
          THEY'RE, THEY'RE, UM, OKAY. 
          I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT WHEN YOU GET 'EM TO SHELTER. 
          I'M TALKING ABOUT AS YOU'RE DOING VISITS, AS YOU'RE DOING OUTREACH, THAT IS A BEST PRACTICE. 
          WHY IS THAT NOT OCCURRING? SO I THINK THAT WE HAVE SOME LIMITATIONS THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT BY USING THE SALESFORCE SYSTEM. 
          I AM KIND OF WONDERING, AND MAYBE WE MEET SEPARATELY FROM THIS AND TALK THROUGH LIKE MY THOUGHT PROCESS, YOUR THOUGHT PROCESS. 
          UM, WE TRY TO ESTABLISH THE FIELD RELATIONSHIP WITH THE PERSON TO GET 'EM INTO SHELTER AND OTHERS WHERE THEY CAN USE THAT HMIS SYSTEM BECAUSE TRACKING INDIVIDUAL INFORMATION COULD LEAD TO PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION CONCERNS AND OTHER STEPS AND PROCESSES WE WOULD HAVE TO TAKE AS A CITY, UM, THAT WOULD ADD COMPLEXITY TO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL, WE CAN'T SAY THAT IT'S ABOUT PII WHEN THIS IS WHAT IS DONE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, AND MANY OF THE OTHER NONPROFITS LOCALLY ARE DOING THAT. 
          SO THAT IS, THAT IS NOT AN ACCEPTABLE ANSWER TO ME. 
          I'M SORRY. 
          UM, THE HOTSPOTS THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH THE REPEATED CALLS AFTER 90 DAYS THAT YOU'VE BEEN ABLE TO CLOSE DOWN, HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH THE REPEATED CALLS FOR SEVEN YEARS THAT STILL HAVE ENCAMPMENTS AT THEM? UH, YEAH. 
          THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. 
          I THINK WHEN WE LOOK AT HOTSPOTS, THOSE HOTSPOTS ARE, ARE WHEN WE'RE MEETING WITH HOUSING FORWARD, WE'RE, WE'RE COLLECTIVELY COMING TOGETHER TO DETERMINE THE NEXT HOTSPOT. 
          UH, WE DO LOOK AT SERVICE REQUEST DATA. 
          WE LOOK AT 9 1 1 DATA, UH, WE LOOK AT, UH, JUST REPEATED ENCAMPMENTS THAT, THAT ARE, UM, CONTINUING TO BE A PROBLEM, UM, THAT MAY BE LARGER IN NATURE. 
          UH, WE CAN'T WORK EVERY, EVERY SINGLE SITE AS A HOTSPOT. 
          UM, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE ARE ENCAMPMENTS OUT THERE THAT, YOU KNOW, OR LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN OR REPEATEDLY A PROBLEM, UM, FOR, FOR THE COMMUNITY I KNOW, BUT THE PRESENTATION IS TRYING TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE ADDRESSING IT AND YOU'RE CLOSING IT DOWN AND IT'S NOT COMING BACK. 
          AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU FROM MY EXPERIENCE, THE ONLY PLACE WHERE THAT'S HAPPENING IS WHEN FENCING HAS BEEN ADDED. 
          THAT IS THE ONLY PLACE I SAW ON THE CRIME MAP LAST NIGHT, THAT THERE WAS AN INCIDENT, UM, FOR THE GENTLEMAN WHO'S LIVING RIGHT NOW AT KELLER SPRINGS IN THE TOLLWAY. 
          THAT GUY'S BEEN THERE FOR TWO YEARS, AT LEAST. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY CALLS HAVE BEEN SENT IN. 
          I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE GOES OVER TO THE ADDISON SIDE AND THEN COMES BACK TO THE DALLAS SIDE. 
          BUT I KNOW FOR SURE YOU'VE BEEN AWARE OF IT FOR YEARS. 
          FRANKFURT AND THE TOLLWAY, FRANKFURT AND COY. 
          I MEAN, I COULD DO THE SAME EXACT LIST THAT HAS EXISTED. 
          IT'S STILL THERE. 
          THERE'S A DUDE THAT'S LIVED DOWN, UM, ALONG WHITE ROCK CREEK. 
          I DON'T KNOW, LONGER THAN I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL FOR SURE. 
          HE'S STILL THERE. 
          SO I, I THINK THAT, 
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UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE SAID THAT IT'S NOT ALWAYS WHAT WE SEE WITH THE DATA MATCHING, AND I THINK THIS IS THE BUBBLE OF CITY HALL. 
          THIS IS NOT REALITY THAT I KNOW AT ALL, AT ALL. 
          SO, UM, I WILL SAY, I DON'T THINK WE'RE ENFORCING STANDING IN THE MEDIAN WHEN YOU SAY YOU GO TO PLACES TO CLEAN UP AND NOBODY'S THERE. 
          WELL, THEY'RE AT THE STORE, THEY'RE PANHANDLING, THEY'RE DOING OTHER THINGS, THEY'RE GONNA COME BACK. 
          SO, I MEAN, I'M GLAD YOU'RE CLEANING UP THE LITTER AND I'M GLAD YOU'RE CLEANING UP ANY OF THE BIOHAZARD ISSUES, BUT THERE'S VERY STRONG DRUG ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH IT IN THE AREAS THAT I AM AWARE OF. 
          UM, HOW MANY OUTREACH ENGAGEMENTS DID THE CITY OF DALLAS COMPLETE IN FISCAL YEAR 26? WE DON'T HAVE THE, YEAH, WE, WE WOULD HAVE TO GET THAT FROM OUR DASHBOARD. 
          WE DON'T HAVE IT HERE NOW, UM, BUT WE COULD, WE CAN GET THAT INFORMATION TOO. 
          CAN YOU SEND THAT AS A MEMO? THANK YOU. 
          AND THEN HOW EFFECTIVE IS THE OUTREACH WORK HAPPENING AT THE CITY? AND ARE THERE OTHER GROUPS THAT ARE DOING THIS WORK THAT ARE MORE EFFECTIVE THAN THE CITY? SO I WOULD SAY THAT BASED ON THE RESPONSIBILITY WE HAVE TO ANSWER SERVICE REQUESTS, UM, THE 25% NUMBER EXCEEDS WHAT I HAVE STUDIED FROM OUR PEER CITIES. 
          I HAVEN'T DONE AN IN-DEPTH DIVE. 
          I HOPE TO GET THAT DONE OVER THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS OF, UH, WHAT IS THE RATE OF SERVICE ACCEPTANCE. 
          UM, AND SO THAT'S WHERE WE SIT TODAY. 
          I THINK SOME OF THESE METRICS, AS YOU SEE, UH, THIS WAS OUR FIRST YEAR OPERATING IN THIS SPACE WHEN COUNCIL MOVED THIS OVER. 
          AND SO, UM, SOME OF THESE THINGS WE HOPE TO BE BASELINE. 
          AND AS WE MOVE INTO 26, 27 YEAR, UH, WE HOPE TO ADD TO, UH, THE OUTCOMES THAT WE PROVIDE. 
          I'D ALSO JUST ADD THAT THE 25% RESOURCE REFERRAL RATE, WE EXPECT THAT TO GO UP. 
          LIKE I SAID, THE COUNCIL, UH, FUNDING AND INVESTING IN THE NOW SHELTER TO HOME MODEL SHOULD INCREASE THE VIABILITY OF GOING TO A SHELTER FROM THOSE THAT WE'RE ENCOUNTERING. 
          AND SO WE SHOULD SEE THAT GO UP. 
          THAT'S OUR FULL EXPECTATION. 
          I WOULD LOVE TO SEE THAT HAPPEN. 
          I THINK THAT'S VERY ASPIRATIONAL. 
          UM, YOU MADE THE COMMENT SERVICES ARE VOLUNTARY, THAT IS TRUE, BUT CAMPING ON PUBLIC LAND IS ILLEGAL. 
          AND I DON'T SEE THE CITY ENFORCING THAT. 
          IT IS INHUMANE TO LEAVE PEOPLE OUTSIDE. 
          NOT ONLY IS IT INHUMANE, IT IS DANGEROUS TO THEM. 
          AND WE HAVE SEEN THE DATA OF THE UNEXPLAINED DEATHS IN LOCATIONS THAT WE KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE LIVING OUTSIDE AND WE'RE NOT DOING, WE'RE NOT DOING RIGHT BY THE PEOPLE. 
          AND THAT IS ALL PEOPLE. 
          THAT IS THE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS THAT NEED US TO HELP THEM GET BACK INTO A TYPICAL LIFE WITH A VERY BROAD SPECTRUM OF WHAT THAT MEANS. 
          BUT THIS IS NOT OKAY. 
          AND HOW IT IMPACTS THE REST OF THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR PEOPLE IS ALSO NOT OKAY. 
          AND SO I DO NOT THINK OUR EFFORTS ARE MAKING THE DIFFERENCE THAT THIS PRESENTATION SEEMS TO SHOW. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. 
          UM, I WOULD HAVE TO AGREE, I, UH, WITH A LOT THAT WAS JUST SAID, I, I, I THINK THAT THE, THE DATA TELLS A, A GOOD STORY THAT WE WANT TOLD. 
          I DON'T KNOW THAT IT TELLS THE STORY OF, UH, WHAT'S HAPPENING. 
          UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE Y'ALL BE A LITTLE BIT MORE GRANULAR WITH THE DATA AND NOT, SO, UM, IT SEEMS LIKE THERE'S A, A, A HUGE EFFORT TO MAKE THIS DATA APPEAR TO BE A POSITIVE PICTURE. 
          UM, I, I JUST, AS YOU MENTIONED, KEVIN, THIS THIS IS NEWLY ADOPTED, UH, TO, TO YOU ALL. 
          UM, I DON'T THINK THAT ANYONE EXPECTS IT TO BE COMPLETELY FLAWLESS. 
          UM, 61% OF CLEAR GRIDS STAYED CLOSED FOR 30 DAYS, WHICH MEANS THAT FOUR IN 10 REOPENED WITHIN A MONTH, UH, CAN, CAN YOU SPEAK TO WHAT HAPPENS TO THE OTHER 39% SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE TO MS. MENDELSSOHN'S POINT, IF WE ARE NOT ENGAGING IN WHAT IS A BEST PRACTICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY, UH, AND, AND ACTUALLY IDENTIFYING EACH INDIVIDUAL, UM, HOW DO WE KNOW THE PERCENTAGE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO ARE RELOCATING, UM, THE SAME ENCAMPMENT, REESTABLISHING, UH, OR FORMING IN A NEARBY LOCATION? 
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UM, I'VE JUST, UH, WHAT I WANNA UNDERSTAND IS THE DIFFERENTIATION OF WHAT THE WAY THAT THIS DATA IS PRESENTED IS, UH, THIS MODEL IS WORKING. 
          AND I, I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S A MORE TRUE PICTURE THAT THIS MODEL IS WORKING THROUGH DISPLACEMENT. 
          IT'S NOT THROUGH SOLUTION, UH, NECESSARILY. 
          SO EXPLAIN TO ME WHAT'S HAPPENING WITH THAT 40% AND WHY IT, YOU HAVE MADE THE DECISION TO, UH, NOT PERSONALIZE THESE TOUCHES, UH, FOR US TO HAVE BETTER DATA AGGREGATED. 
          SO I MIGHT NEED THOR'S HELP HERE, AND IT WOULD, IT MIGHT ALSO BE HELPFUL IN THE FUTURE TO, TO MAYBE GO INTO THIS SPECIFIC TOPIC, UH, IN MORE DETAIL PERHAPS WHAT THE HOUSING FORWARD AND OUR, AND OUR PRIVACY FOLKS. 
          SO I DID HEAR THE COMMENT OF OTHER NONPROFITS ARE DOING THIS WITH PERSONALLY IDENTIFIABLE, IDENTIFIABLE INFORMATION. 
          AND CERTAINLY HOUSING FORD IS, THE CITY HAS SPECIFICS ON THAT FRONT THAT MAKE IT DIFFICULT TO JUST COLLECT SOMEONE'S INFORMATION AND STORE IT SOMEWHERE. 
          I, I'M NOT, I'M NOT ASKING FOR YOU TO RE RE-LITIGATE THE QUESTION THAT MS. MENDELSON ASKED. 
          I ASKED YOU A SPECIFIC QUESTION ABOUT WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH THE FOUR OUT OF 10 THAT THE DATA IS SHOWING THAT WE HAVE NO DATA FOR WHAT'S OCCURRING. 
          YEAH. 
          SO WE MAKE ADDITIONAL EFFORTS TO GET THE PERSON INTO SHELTER OR, UH, TREATMENT OR WHATEVER THE NEEDS ARE OF THE INDIVIDUAL. 
          UM, AND WE FOLLOW THE PROCESS THAT YOU SAW SPELLED OUT. 
          SO WE HAVE TO ASSESS THE SITE, WE HAVE TO PROVIDE THE OUTREACH. 
          WE HAVE TO, UH, THEN PROVIDE SOME SORT OF INTERVENTION TO THE SITE AS TO WHY IS THIS, SO ARE WE NOT COLLECTING THE DATA FOR WHAT'S NOT SHOWN AS SUCCESS? THAT'S AN EASY WAY TO ANSWER THIS QUESTION. 
          THERE'S, THERE'S DATA THAT SHOWS 61%. 
          DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA AT ALL TO SUPPORT WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THE OTHER 39%? NO, I DON'T KNOW WHAT'S, SO THAT'S THE, I WOULD ASK FOR, THAT'S, THAT'S THE PROBLEM. 
          THAT, THAT'S WHAT CASE WORK IS, IT'S THE FOLLOW UP. 
          AND THAT'S WHY IT'S A BEST PRACTICE ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO HAVE IT PERSONALIZED. 
          UH, I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE TO BE, UH, UM, A A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UH, HAVE HIGHER EXPECTATIONS, QUITE FRANKLY, OF WHAT THIS IS. 
          I, I, I REALLY FIND IT PROBLEMATIC IF ANY STAFF, UH, DEPARTMENT, UH, CRUTCHES TO A RESPONSE THAT THIS IS THE RESPONSIBILITY OF ANOTHER PARTNER. 
          UH, IF IT'S BEST PRACTICE, IT'S BEST PRACTICE. 
          IF WE HAVE TO WORK THROUGH PRIVACY ISSUES, I BELIEVE WE CAN DO THAT. 
          WE HAVE A LOT MORE, UH, PRIVACY, PRIVATE PRIVACY SENSITIVE INFORMATION THAT WE DEAL WITH ON A DAY-TO-DAY BASIS. 
          SO THE, THE, THE, THE ANSWERS JUST AREN'T CUTTING IT AS FAR AS WHY WE ARE NEGLECTING TO FOCUS ON THOSE THAT WE ARE NOT ABLE TO MAKE AN IMPACT. 
          INSTEAD, THIS IS WHAT WE'VE ALWAYS DONE WITH HOMELESSNESS. 
          WE JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT WHAT WE CAN PUT, UH, UM, TO A PIECE OF PAPER ON A DATA POINT TO SAY WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, WE'RE DOING SOMETHING, BUT MEANWHILE THERE'S A LOT LEFT OPEN, UH, TO WHAT WE ACTUALLY ARE AND AREN'T DOING. 
          AND THAT TELLS A VERY IMPORTANT PICTURE SPECIFICALLY TO THIS 61%. 
          YOU GO DOWN TO THE DOWNTOWN SUCCESS, WE WANT TO TOUT THE DOWNTOWN SUCCESS. 
          IT'S NOT SUCCESS. 
          I MEAN, WE HAVE 85% DECLINE AND WE'VE SEEN A, UH, TANGIBLE INCREASE AS, UH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE MENTIONED IN OTHER PLACES. 
          SO THIS IS NOT SUCCESSFUL MODEL. 
          THIS IS SUCCESS BY DISPLACEMENT. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE'RE TOUTING THAT. 
          AND TO THAT POINT, IF WE HAVE 1300 INTERVENTIONS ACROSS 150 HOTSPOTS SINCE JUNE WITH COORDINATING MULTI INTERDEPARTMENTAL ACTIVITY, HOW IS THIS COST PROHIBITIVE? LIKE, HOW ARE WE ABLE TO REALLY QUANTIFY WHAT WE'RE SPENDING TO DO THIS? AND WE, AND WE, AND WE CAN'T NECESSARILY QUANTIFY IT TO THE INDIVIDUAL GETTING LASTING SERVICES. 
          THIS IS, THESE ARE JUST DATA POINTS ON A PIECE OF PAPER. 
          I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THIS CAST MODEL IS GOING TO, UH, UM, BE FUNDED TO SCALE, TO ACTUALLY SHOW SUCCESS. 
          AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE HAVE THAT BROKEN DOWN FOR US EITHER. 
          THIS COSTS QUITE A BIT AND THERE IS, UM, A, A DISPROPORTIONATE USE OF RESOURCES FOR CERTAIN PARTS OF THE CITY. 
          AND IT IS NOT BEING DONE TO MITIGATE HOMELESSNESS, BUT IT'S TO APPEASE IN THE MOMENT THE AESTHETICS OF INDIVIDUALS STANDING ON OUR STREET. 
          TO THAT NOTE, WE HAVE 64 OUT OF 139 VERIFIED ENCAMPMENTS IN AUGUST ALONE THAT WERE ON PRIVATE PROPERTY. 
          WE KNOW THAT THERE'S A SHIFT IN THIS. 
          WHAT EFFORTS ARE WE DOING WITH PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS SPECIFICALLY NOT LEANING ON THEM, THE ONUS BEING ON THEM WITH HAVING TO HAVE A CTA ON FILE, NOT HAVING TO LEAN ON, UH, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. 
          WHY AREN'T WE PROACTIVELY APPROACHING SOME OF THESE 
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LOCATIONS WHERE IT'S MOST PROMINENTLY HAPPENING AND CREATE SOME SORT OF, UH, OPEN DIALOGUE AND OPPORTUNITY TO INTERVENE ON THESE PRIVATE PROPERTIES IN THE SAME WAY THAT WE DO IN PUBLIC PROPERTY? AGAIN, IT'S THROWING OUR HANDS UP AND SAYING, WE'RE DOING WHAT WE CAN, BUT WE CAN'T WITHOUT. 
          WELL, NOW WE'RE SEEING A SHIFT IN WHAT WE CAN'T DO WITH IS THE FAR HIGHER, UM, UH, PROPORTION OF WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE ADDRESSING. 
          SO WE CAN'T CONTINUE TO JUST THROW OUR HANDS UP. 
          SO IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO LOOK AT THIS FOR WHAT IT IS YOU'RE PROVIDING US DATA, BUT IT IS ABSOLUTELY CHERRY PICKED DATA. 
          THIS DOES NOT PAINT A PICTURE THAT WE ARE MITIGATING HOMELESSNESS. 
          THIS DOES NOT PAINT A PICTURE OF SUCCESSFUL MODEL SPECIFICALLY WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT IS HAPPENING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHEN WE HAVE OUR HOUSING FIRST PARTNERS WHO ARE, UM, UH, STILL PERSONALIZING EACH TOUCH, STILL UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE FOLLOW THROUGH IS, THAT'S THE DATA THAT MATTERS MOST. 
          THE 61% TO ME IS NOT NEAR AS IMPORTANT AS THE 39% THAT Y'ALL HAVE NO INFORMATION ABOUT AT ALL. 
          SO I, I JUST ASK THAT WE, UH, UH, ARE A LITTLE BIT MORE HOLISTIC AND INTENTIONAL OF PROVIDING A FULL PICTURE INSTEAD OF A PICTURE THAT Y'ALL WANT HEADLINES FOR. 
          COUNCILMAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT. 
          I JUST, REAL QUICK, CHAIR, CHAIRMAN, MAY, MAY I FIRST SAY THANK YOU, THOR, UM, THANK YOU CHAIR. 
          JUST, UH, QUICKLY THAT THE CHAIR ASKED US FOR AN OVERVIEW PRESENTATION ON, UM, ON WHAT MR. OIN IS PRESENTING TODAY. 
          WE CERTAINLY WILL BRING A MORE HOLISTIC APPROACH, ESPECIALLY AS, AS THE TEAM PREPARES TO PROVIDE STATE OF THE HOMELESSNESS BRIEFING. 
          AND, BUT WE HEAR YOU, WE HEAR YOU, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING, AND I DON'T, I DON'T THINK THAT OUR APPROACH IS WE'RE JUST GONNA CONTINUE BUSINESS AS USUAL. 
          I THINK THIS, THE WHOLE PURPOSE OF OUR COME TO YOU TODAY IS TO GET INFORMATION, TO GET INSIGHTS, TO, TO SEE WHERE WE CAN, UH, SHARPEN OUR OWN SKILLS SO THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD. 
          THIS TEAM HAS BEEN AT IT FOR, YOU KNOW, THE, IN THE LAST TWO YEARS WHERE THEY REALLY HAVE SEPARATED THEIR WORK EFFORTS. 
          AND SO THOR IS WORKING IN ONE AREA RELATED TO SERVICES WHERE KEVIN IS WORKING IN OTHER AND, AND ENCAMPMENT RESOLUTION. 
          WHEREAS THEN WE HAVE OUR PARTNERS WHO ARE WORKING IN PARTNERSHIP WITH US, AND THEN WE HAVE MULTIPLE DEPARTMENTS SUCH AS, I I I DO APPRECIATE THE RESPONSE THIS, BUT I, ALL I'M ASKING FOR IS ACTUALLY WHAT THEY HAVE PRESENTED, BUT THEY PRESENTED IT TO US IN A MANNER THAT I DON'T BELIEVE IS COMPLETE. 
          SO I'M NOT, I'M NOT, I'M NOT COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST HERE. 
          I'M COMPLAINING ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE HAVE INCOMPLETE DATA GIVEN TO US TO PAINT A PICTURE THAT I DO NOT BELIEVE IS, IS HOLISTIC IN NATURE. 
          AND SO HOW DO WE MONITOR ANY TYPE OF METRIC WHEN THERE, IT'S ONLY ONE SIDED. 
          WE'RE LOOKING AT METRICS ON ONE SIDE, ON WHAT YOU WANT US TO, TO BE HIGHLIGHTING. 
          BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, THERE'S AN ENTIRE OTHER PORTION OF, UH, OF PERCENTAGE POINTS THAT'S NOT EVEN BEING ADDRESSED. 
          AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW IT'S GOING TO BE ADDRESSED IF THERE'S NO ANSWERS ON, ON WHAT'S LACKING. 
          SO I UNDERSTAND THAT IT'S NEW. 
          I UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA GO THROUGH SOME GROWING PAINS, BUT WE ALSO HAVE TO BE WILLING TO TAKE SCRUTINY WHERE SCRUTINY IS DESERVED. 
          ABSOLUTELY. 
          AND THIS TO ME IS INCOMPLETE DATA AND IT, IT DOES SCREAM A PRACTICE HERE IN THIS BUILDING AND, AND WE'RE TOLD WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR AND WE'RE NOT REALLY DIGGING INTO THE STUFF THAT'S A LITTLE UNCOMFORTABLE. 
          SO, AND THAT'S WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. 
          YES. 
          WE'LL WORK ON THAT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO, UM, THANK YOU, UH, MR. BAO, 'CAUSE YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          I JUST HAVE ONE COURT MORE QUESTION BEFORE I SURE, SURE, SURE. 
          JUST ONE. 
          I HAVE 25%. 
          UM, REFERRAL ACCEPTANCE. 
          YOU DID NOT SPECIFY IN THE 1,833 CONTACTS WHETHER THERE WERE REPEAT CONTACTS WITH THE SAME PERSON AND IF THEY COUNTED SEPARATELY, AND AGAIN, TO MS. MENDELSSOHN'S POINT, WITHOUT PERSONALIZING THESE TOUCHES, I DON'T KNOW HOW WE WOULD HAVE THAT DATA. 
          I WANT, UH, JUST A CLEAR SENSE OF HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS ARE ACTUALLY BEING REACHED AND IN A 25% NUMBER OF AN 1,833, UH, UM, TOTAL NUMBER, AND WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY ARE REPEATS, UH, THAT HAVE BEEN COUNTED IN THAT THAT 25% NUMBER IS INACCURATE. 
          AND THAT'S THE POINT THAT I'M MAKING HERE IS WE CAN, WE CAN PAINT A PICTURE THAT WE WANT PAINTED, BUT IT'S NOT ACCURATE. 
          SO IF, IF THERE WAS JUST ONE INDIVIDUAL OF THAT 1,833 TOUCHES THAT WAS TOUCHED TWICE, THAT EIGHT, THAT 25% IS SKEWED. 
          SO WE SHOULD BE GETTING ACCURATE DATA AND WE SHOULD BE TRYING TO DIG AS GRANULAR AS WE CAN INTO THIS DATA AND NOT THIS HIGH LEVEL STUFF THAT JUST TOUTS SUCCESS. 
          'CAUSE THERE'S A LOT TO QUESTION ON WHAT IS BEING CONSIDERED SUCCESS HERE. 
          THANK YOU MADAM CHAIR. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, MR. BAARD FOR THAT, BECAUSE YOU DID TOUCH ON A LOT OF THINGS AND A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT I HAVE. 
          WE ALL HAVE. 
          UM, WHEN I, I I KNOW WE ARE GOING TO DO THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS, I'D LIKE TO SEE IT COME NEXT MONTH. 
          AND IN THAT STATE OF HOMELESSNESS, I'D LIKE TO HAVE THE ANSWERS AS TO HOW WE MEASURE WHAT WE ARE TOUCHING. 
          HOW MANY TIMES HAVE 
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WE TOUCHED A PERSON? IF WE CANNOT USE A NAME, HOW CAN WE BET THEM? UM, IF WE, AND, AND WHAT, UH, MS. MENDELSSOHN HAS GIVEN ME IS THAT PERSONAL INFORMATION, IDENTIFICATION INFORMATION IS NOT SUBJECT TO OPEN RECORDS. 
          I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO SEE, I KNOW OUR, UM, PARTNER IN AND COMMUNITY COURTS HAS DRUG AND VETERANS COURT WHERE THEY DO MANAGE TO OUR NON HOUSE POPULATION. 
          HOW IS THAT GOING? HOW IS THAT MANAGED? UM, I HAVE A SIMPLE SUGGESTION. 
          IF YOU'RE SAYING WE DON'T WANNA USE HMIS BECAUSE WE CAN'T, IT'S IT'S PERSONAL INFORMATION LIKE, LIKE YOUR MIDDLE, LIKE HIPAA, THEN GIVE THEM A A FICTITIOUS NUMBER. 
          LIKE WE DO A SERVICE REQUEST, TRACK 'EM BY SERVICE REQUESTS. 
          THOSE ARE ANYTHING THAT GETS US TO TRACK THEM. 
          WHEN YOU'RE SAYING THAT THEY'RE MOVING, THEY'RE NOT. 
          IF YOU CLEANED OUT A CAMP, WHERE ARE THEY GOING? I KNOW WHERE THEY'RE GOING. 
          THEY'RE GOING IN OUR WOODS. 
          THEY'RE GOING, THEY'RE GOING IN OUR WOODED AREAS. 
          THEY'RE GOING ALONG OUR CREEKS. 
          THEY'RE GOING IN OUR, OUR, OUR, OUR WATER, UH, WAYS AND THEY LIVE THERE. 
          I HAVE DEEP, DARK POPULATION THAT HAS THEIR OWN RULES, THEIR OWN STANDARDS AND THEIR OWN WAY OF LIVING. 
          WHAT WE, WHAT EVERYONE HERE IS SAYING IS DON'T GIVE US JUST NUMBERS. 
          GIVE US A POLICY, A PROCESS THAT WE CAN LIVE TO THAT WILL ACTUALLY TRACK OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION. 
          IT WILL TRACK THEM WHETHER THEY ARE, UH, DRUG ADDICTED, UH, ALCOHOLISM, WHATEVER. 
          GIVE US SOMETHING THAT WE CAN, AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT A EASY TASK. 
          I KNOW VERY MUCH HOW ENTRENCHED THEY ARE. 
          UH, CHAIR GRACIE AND I, WE HAVE SHARED A UNHOUSED LADY FOR YEARS. 
          SHE, SHE KNOWS, I DON'T KNOW HOW THE UNHOUSED POPULATION KNOWS. 
          WE'RE LOOKING FOR THEM. 
          WE'RE GOING TO CLEAN UP A SITE THEY MOVE FROM ONE SITE TO ANOTHER. 
          30 DAYS IS NOT ENOUGH. 
          IF WE ARE GOING TO HAND THEM OFF TO PARTNERS, WE SHOULD SEE OUR PARTNERS HERE WHEN WE ARE DOING OUR PRESENTATION. 
          SO WE CAN ASK QUESTIONS. 
          I KNOW WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT HOMELESS, YOU HAVE TO TALK TO CODE, YOU HAVE TO TALK TO DPD AND YOU HAVE, AND DPD HAS THEIR OWN SPECIALIZED TEAM. 
          GIVE US A PRESENTATION THAT SHOWS HOW YOU HANDLE THESE THINGS, WHAT THE REAL NUMBERS ARE, HOW MANY TOUCHES WE HAVE PER PERSON. 
          AND IF SOME OF THEM HAVE MULTIPLE LAYERS OF PROBLEMS, THEY ARE JUST NOT UNHOUSED. 
          THEY MAY HAVE A DRUG ADDICTION PROBLEM THAT MUST BE CLEANED UP BEFORE THEY HAVE, AND THEY MAY BE USING DRUGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE A MENTAL ISSUE THAT YOU HAVE TO DO THE CLEAN UP THE DRUGS BEFORE IT'S A WHOLE STORY. 
          TELL US THE STORY AND GIVE US THE ANSWER TO THE STORY WITH DETAIL. 
          SO LET'S START WITH THAT. 
          THE, THE STATE OF HOW OF HOMELESSNESS. 
          LET'S HAVE OUR, HAVE OUR PARTNERS WITH AND COMMUNITY COURTS DPD CODE COME TO THE TABLE AND TELL US THE STORY. 
          THANK YOU WITH THAT, UM, MR. ODOM. 
          NOW, UM, AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO FOR, LIKE I SAID, FOR SAKE OF TIME, AND WE ARE OVER OUR TIME. 
          UM, OUR NEXT TOPICS ARE, OKAY, THANK YOU. 
          WE'RE GONNA LOOK AT 
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ITEMS, OUR UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON OUR UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS? DO, YES. 
          OKAY. 
          UH, MS. MENDELSON, THANK YOU. 
          UM, FOR ITEM E, THIS IS, UM, THE BRIDGES ITEM. 
          AND I'D JUST LIKE TO, UM, POINT OUT THAT THEY EXCEEDED THEIR NIGHT SHELTER CAPACITY, THEIR GOAL, RIGHT? THEY, THEY DID 2,253 UNDUPLICATED, AND I JUST WANNA THINK ABOUT THAT NUMBER FOR A MINUTE. 
          2,253. 
          NOW THAT'S A WHOLE YEAR UNDUPLICATED, 
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BUT I JUST LIKE TO REMIND FOLKS THAT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT HAS A NUMBER, AND THIS IS JUST THE BRIDGE. 
          IT'S NOT ALL THE OTHER SHELTERS, IT'S NOT ALL THE PEOPLE UNSHELTERED, IT'S DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY. 
          AND YET SOMEHOW WE'RE TO BELIEVE THAT THE POINT IN TIME COUNT HAS ANY KIND OF, UM, BASIS IN REALITY WHEN YOU CAN SEE AN UNDUPLICATED CLIENT SERVE FOR THE BRIDGE 2,253 AND ALL OF THEM ARE IN HMIS. 
          SO I, I JUST HAD TO CALL THAT OUT BECAUSE WHEN YOU HAVE A POINT IN TIME COUNT WITH 3,500 PEOPLE AND YOU TAKE A BOW, WHAT THAT TELLS YOU IS YOU'RE NOT GOING TO THE PLACES WHERE PEOPLE ACTUALLY ARE, NUMBER ONE. 
          UM, AND NUMBER TWO, THERE'S SOME AGENDA TO SHOW THAT YOU'RE SOMEHOW LOWERING HOMELESSNESS WHEN IT IS EVIDENT TO ANYBODY PAYING ATTENTION THAT THAT IS NOT THE SITUATION. 
          AND YET WE CONTINUE TO ACCEPT THIS AND WE CONTINUE TO FUND THIS. 
          AND SO THAT LEADS ME TO ITEM H I'M SORRY TO ITEM F UH, ONE SECOND ON ITEM E, IF I MAY. 
          UM, THIS ITEM WAS REDLINED FOR TOMORROW'S AGENDA. 
          UH, WE INADVERTENTLY ADDED SOME LANGUAGE FROM LAST YEAR'S AGENDA ITEM IN THE ITEM THAT WE HAD TO RED LINE THROUGH. 
          IN ADDITION, BILLY RAY WILL READ IN A CORRECTION OF THE FUNDING AMOUNT, UH, IT WAS SUPPOSED TO STAY AT THE 5,147,500 RATHER THAN THE 4.5 MILLION. 
          AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE HAVE THE 4.6 MILLION IN GENERAL FUND FOR THE MASTER SERVICE CONTRACT AND THE 547,500 FOR PAY TO STAY TO KEEP FUNDING LEVEL SERVICES FOR THEIR LAST YEAR. 
          UH, SO APOLOGIZE FOR MY LAST MINUTE CORRECTION AND RED LINE TO THE ITEM, BUT I DID WANT TO CALL ATTENTION TO THAT FOR TOMORROW'S AGENDA ITEM. 
          THANK YOU. 
          OKAY, SO IN ITEM F, UM, THIS ITEM I HAVE TO WONDER, UM, YOU HAVE THE PROGRAM ACCOMPLISHMENTS. 
          THEY HAD A GOAL OF EIGHT PEOPLE, THEY ACHIEVED 10, THEY SPENT $124,600. 
          UM, WAS THERE A VERIFICATION OF HOW MANY ARE STILL HOUSED? AND IF SO, HOW WAS THAT VERIFIED? I CAN VERIFY THAT AND RESPOND TO YOU ALL IN EMAIL BEFORE TOMORROW'S AGENDA ITEM. 
          OKAY. 
          AND THEN I HAVE ONE OTHER QUESTION. 
          I'M SORRY, THIS ONE'S ON OCTOBER 14TH. 
          SO, UH, BUT I WILL STILL RESPOND TO YOU, UH, WITH THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION. 
          OKAY. 
          UM, AND THEN MY LAST QUESTION WAS ABOUT, UM, YES, CATHOLIC CHARITIES FOR ITEM D, THE THE USE OF FUNDS IS EXACTLY WHAT WE GAVE THE $10 MILLION TO HOUSING FORWARD TO. 
          WHY AREN'T THEY PAYING FOR THIS? WHY ARE WE TAKING MORE MONEY OUT OF THE GENERAL FUND? IT'S A SEPARATE CONTRACT. 
          SO HOUSING FORWARDS CAME AS A, AS A WAY TO WORK ON, UM, INCREASING CAPACITY IN THIS SPACE. 
          UH, THIS IS A EXISTING CONTRACT THAT WAS FUNDED OR APPROVED FOR A FEW YEARS RENEWAL. 
          AND SO IT CONTINUES TO PROVIDE ASSISTANCE FOR THE SPACE. 
          AS WE KNOW, THE NEED CONTINUES TO BE THERE IN BOTH THE FOLKS THAT HOUSING FOR WILL SERVE AS WELL AS THE, UH, PEOPLE THAT CATHOLIC CHARITIES WILL SERVE. 
          AND SO IN LOOKING THROUGH, UM, A PRESENTATION THAT JACK DID WHERE HE GAVE ALL THE STIPENDS AND ALL THE VARIOUS, UM, DOLLARS THAT WERE GOING TO NONPROFITS, UH, IS IT THE INTENTION OF CITY MANAGEMENT TO CONTINUE FUNDING ALL THESE DIFFERENT NONPROFITS? JUST AS AN ONGOING PART OF OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET THIS YEAR WAS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT WE HAD CURRENTLY UNDER CONTRACTS AND COMMITMENT TO FOR HOW WE APPROACHED OUR GENERAL FUND BUDGET IN THE OFFICE OF HOUSING COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT. 
          AS THESE CONTRACTS COME TO A CLOSE THIS YEAR, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO TALK ABOUT OUR RESOURCES AVAILABLE. 
          UH, THAT'LL BE PART OF THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS PRESENTATION IN TERMS OF WHEN THESE CONTRACTS COME TO AN END, THE CURRENT BUDGET ALIGNED TO HOUSING COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT, UH, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES TO REFOCUS THE WORK AROUND SOME OF THE GAPS THAT WE KNOW EXIST AND FOLLOW YOUR GUIDANCE FOR WHAT WE WANT TO APPROVE, UM, FOR HOMELESS SERVICES MOVING FORWARD. 
          WELL, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING FOR THE NONPROFITS IS TO HAVE AS MUCH LEAD TIME AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IF THERE IS SOME REDUCTION COMING OR A DIFFERENT METHOD FOR DISTRIBUTION OF FUNDS, THEN THEY NEED TO PREPARE AND THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO PREPARE THEIR DONORS, THEY NEED TO PREPARE THEIR PROGRAM SERVICES. 
          UM, YOU, YOU HAVE MENTIONED THAT YOU'RE GONNA BRING THE FINANCIALS WITH THAT. 
          UM, MY QUESTION IS NOT JUST THE FINANCIALS OF WHAT WE'RE FUNDING, BUT THEN ALSO HOW THAT FITS INTO THE LARGER PICTURE. 
          SO FOR INSTANCE, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE ZOO AND GIVING THEM A 14 PLUS MILLION DOLLARS STIPEND, 
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WE KNOW IT'S 36% OF THEIR BUDGET. 
          SO I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT ALSO IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH OF THE BUDGET ARE WE FUNDING FOR SPECIFIC ORGANIZATIONS, AND THEN HOW MUCH OF THE WHOLE CONTINUUM. 
          SO I HOPE YOU'RE GONNA TAKE THE FINANCIALS OF THE NONPROFITS THAT ARE SERVING THE HOMELESS IN OUR, IN OUR AREA, AND UNDERSTAND WHAT THEIR BUDGETS ARE. 
          SO THEY'RE GETTING THIS MUCH FROM GOVERNMENT, WHICH MIGHT BE FEDERAL, THIS MUCH FROM STATE, THIS MUCH FROM LOCAL, AND THEN THEY'RE FUNDRAISING THIS MUCH PLUS MAYBE SOME OTHER, YOU KNOW, FOUNDATIONAL GRANTS. 
          BUT, BUT LIKE, LET'S UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE PICTURE THERE BECAUSE THE AMOUNT OF MONEY GOING INTO HOMELESS SERVICES IN DALLAS COUNTY IS MASSIVE. 
          AND IF YOU ACTUALLY PUT THAT TOGETHER, YOU'RE GONNA BE SHOCKED. 
          AND I KNOW WE DID THAT IN THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP ON ENDING HOMELESSNESS. 
          I THINK THE ANNUAL AMOUNT WAS $700 MILLION THAT WENT INTO HOMELESSNESS WHEN YOU COMBINED ALL THE SOURCES. 
          AND SO WE'RE NOT GETTING $700 MILLION WORTH OF SERVICES. 
          AND ESPECIALLY IF YOU WANNA, YOU KNOW, PRETEND THE POINT IN TOWN COUNT IS CORRECT, THEN WE OUGHT TO BE ABLE TO BUY EVERYONE A HOUSE. 
          SO WE KNOW THAT'S NOT TRUE AND THE NEED IS MUCH, MUCH GREATER THAN WHAT WE'RE BEING TOLD. 
          SO, UM, I HOPE THAT YOUR, YOUR FINANCIALS WILL BE COMPREHENSIVE. 
          THANK YOU. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, CHAIR WILLIS. 
          YEAH, ON ITEM G ON THIS PFC PROJECT, I JUST WAS CONCERNED THAT ON A PROJECT WITH 420 UNITS, ONLY 2.8% WERE THREE BEDROOM AND WANTED TO UNDERSTAND THAT EQUATION A LITTLE BIT MORE. 
          AND SINCE THIS ITEM COMES UP OCTOBER 14TH, IS THERE SOME FLEXIBILITY THERE OR JUST IS, HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THERE ARE JUST SO FEW REPRESENTED HERE. 
          UM, THANK YOU. 
          UM, I WILL DEFER THAT QUESTION TO ERIN, A QUINTO GENERAL MANAGER OF THE PFC TO DISCUSS HOW THE BEDROOM COUNTS ARE CALCULATED AND THE DEVELOPMENTS THAT COME FORWARD THROUGH THE PFC FOR CONSIDERATION. 
          OKAY, WELL LET'S DO THAT WITH DISPATCH. 
          THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. 
          UH, SORRY I WAS OUT THERE. 
          IT'S FREEZING IN HERE. 
          SO I WAS WAITING OUT THERE. 
          UM, SO WE, WE GOT THE QUESTION AND I RESEARCHED BACK AND SO THERE, THERE WAS A BIT OF A DISCUSSION WITH THE PFC BOARD. 
          ORIGINALLY IT WAS ONLY ONE AND TWO BEDROOMS PROPOSED AND SO WE DID GO BACK AND, AND NEGOTIATE IN UH, SOME THREE BEDROOM UNITS. 
          BUT ALSO IT'S, IT'S VALID TO NOTE THAT THIS IS PART OF A 275 ACRE MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO ALONG WITH THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER HFC PROJECT THAT'S GONNA INCLUDE AT LEAST 75 3 BEDROOM UNITS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THERE, AS WELL AS A BUNCH OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES, UH, CONNECTED WITH, WITH THIS MASTER PLAN DEVELOPMENT. 
          SO INDIVIDUALLY THERE MIGHT NOT BE THAT MANY, BUT AS A WHOLE I THINK THAT THEY'RE A GOOD REPRESENTATION. 
          OKAY. 
          WELL THANK YOU FOR POINTING OUT HOW THIS FITS INTO THAT OVERALL EQUATION. 
          HOW BIG IS THE COMPLEX THAT HAS THE 75 3 BEDROOM UNITS? THAT'S, UH, I THINK IT'S ROUGHLY 300 UNITS. 
          OKAY. 
          ALRIGHT. 
          THANK YOU. 
          UM, OKAY. 
          THANK YOU. 
          SO THERE IS NO ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. 
          UM, FOR NEXT MONTH WE WILL DO PILLARS ONE AND TWO FOR THE HOUSING PORTION AND WE WILL ALSO DO, UM, THE STATE OF HOMELESSNESS WITH MORE DETAILED AND MORE GRANULAR VIEW AS TO HOW MANY TOUCHES, WHERE THEY GO, HOW WE LOOK AT 'EM, THE PARTNERS THAT ARE INVOLVED IN TRYING TO, AND TRYING TO, TO MANAGE TO OUR HOMELESS POPULATION. 
          UM, WITH THAT BEING SAID, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? ANYTHING ELSE? THEN I CALL THIS MEETING ADJOURN AT 1133. 
          THANK.
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