* This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting. WATCHING THE MEETING OF THE [00:00:01] DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WITH MAYOR ERIC L. JOHNSON, MAYOR PRO TEM JAIME RESENDEZ, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM MAXI JOHNSON. THE COUNCIL MEMBERS CHAD WEST, JESSE MORENO, ZANDY GRACIE, LAURA CENA, ADAM BASIL, DOA, LAURIE BLAIR, PAULA BLACKMAN, KATHY STEWART, WILLIAM ROTH, KARA MENDELSON, GAY DANELLE WILLIS. PAUL E RIDLEY, CITY MANAGER KIMBERLY BYER. TOLBERT CITY SECRETARY BILLY RAY JOHNSON AND INTERIM CITY ATTORNEY VANDENBERG. ALRIGHT, [AGENDA CITY COUNCIL MEETING WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23, 2026 ORDER OF BUSINESS ] GOOD MORNING. WE HAVE A QUORUM. TODAY'S WEDNESDAY, SEPTEMBER 23RD, 2026, THE TIME'S 9:23 AM AND I NOW CALL THIS MEETING THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL TO ORDER. AND [OPEN MICROPHONE] WE HAVE THIS MORNING, UH, CHAIRMAN ZAIN GRACE, HE'S GONNA GIVE US OUR INVOCATION AND THEN WE'LL HAVE OUR PLEDGES OF ALLEGIANCE. UH, CHAIRMAN GRACIOUS FLOOR IS YOURS. THANK YOU AND GOOD MORNING, LET US PRAY. GRACIOUS AND ALMIGHTY, GOD, WE COME BEFORE YOU THIS MORNING, GRATEFUL FOR THE GIFT OF ANOTHER DAY AND FOR AND FOR THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING THE PEOPLE OF THIS GREAT CITY. LORD, YOUR WORDS SAY, MAY THESE WORDS OF MY MOUTH AND THE MEDITATION OF MY HEART BE PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT, LORD, MY ROCK AND MY REDEEMER. TODAY, WE PRAY THAT VERSE OVER, OVER ALL OF DALLAS. LORD, WE PRAY OVER THE WORDS OF OUR MOUTHS. LET THE WORD SPOKEN, BE HONEST AND SEASONED WITH GRACE WHERE WE DISAGREE. LET US DISAGREE WITH RESPECT WHERE WE DEBATE. LET US LISTEN AS CAREFULLY AS WE SPEAK AND LET EVERY WORD SHARED BUILD UP RATHER THAN TEAR DOWN. LORD, WE PRAY OVER THE MEDITATIONS OF OUR HEARTS. SEARCH US LORD, REMOVE ANY PRIDE, ANY DIVISION, ANY SELFISH AMBITION, AND REPLACE IT WITH HUMILITY AND A GENUINE LOVE FOR OUR NEIGHBORS. LET THE DECISIONS WE MAKE FLOW FROM OUR HEARTS THAT ARE SET ON SERVING EACH OTHER. LORD, BE THE ROCK OF THIS CITY. BE STEADY GROUND FOR THE FAMILIES, FOR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS, FOR THE SENIORS LIVING ALONE AND THE YOUNG FAMILIES CHOOSING TO MAKE DALLAS THEIR HOME AND BE OUR REDEEMER. WHERE THERE HAS BEEN HARM, BRING HEALING, WHERE THERE HAS BEEN NEGLECT, BRING RESTORATION. AND WHERE THERE HAS BEEN DIVISION, BRING US TOGETHER AS ONE CITY MAY ALL THAT WE SAY AND ALL THAT WE DO IN THIS PLACE TODAY, BE PLEASING IN YOUR SIGHT. IN YOUR HOLY NAME WE PRAY. AMEN. IF EVERYONE WAS ABLE, WOULD PLEASE RISE FOR OUR PLEDGES. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL, HONOR THE TEXAS FLAG. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THEE TEXAS, ONE STATE UNDER GOD, ONE AND INDIVISIBLE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. YOU MAY BE SEATED. WE HAVE A FEW ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SPECIAL PRESENTATIONS THIS MORNING. SO LET ME GET TO THOSE. I THINK CHAIRMAN MORENO, ARE YOU READY? ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT OR SPECIAL PRESENTATION, WHICHEVER. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, TODAY WE ARE JOINED BY FRIENDS AND SURVIVORS FROM THE BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK. UM, EARLIER TODAY WE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A PRESS CONFERENCE AND TALK ABOUT THE IMPORTANCE OF SCREENING CARE AND REALLY JUST ENSURING THAT, UH, PEOPLE WHO ARE, UH, UNINSURED OR UNDERINSURED HAVE THE TOOLS, UH, AND THE SCREENING TO BE ABLE TO, UM, OVERCOME, UH, BREAST CANCER. AND SO I'M GOING TO READ A SPECIAL RECOGNITION, WHEREAS THE BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK WAS FOUNDED IN DALLAS IN 1992 BY BREAST SURGEON DR. SALLY KNOX, AND A GROUP OF BREAST CANCER SURVIVORS WHO RECOGNIZED THE NEED TO HELP INDIVIDUALS LACKING THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES OR INSURANCE NECESSARY TO ACCESS BREAST CANCER CARE. AND WHEREAS A BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK ALONGSIDE A DIVERSE NETWORK OF MEDICAL PROVIDERS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, VOLUNTEERS AND SUPPORTERS TO REMOVE BARRIER TO CARE AND IMPROVE BREAST HEALTH OUTCOMES FOR RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AND THE SURROUNDING NORTH TEXAS REGION. AND WHEREAS THE BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK IS BEING HONORED DURING A BRIDGE TO HOPE, STANDING TOGETHER FOR BREAST HEALTH, FOR ITS LONGSTANDING SERVICE, COMMUNITY IMPACT, AND UNWAVERING DEDICATION TO SAVING LIVES. AND NOW THEREFORE, I JESSE MORENO, COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, I DO HEREBY EXTEND A SPECIAL RECOGNITION MAYOR, IF IT'S OKAY FOR THE PRESIDENT OF THE, UH, BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK TO SAY A FEW, UH, WORDS FOLLOWED BY A PICTURE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. GOOD MORNING TO THE COUNCIL ON BEHALF OF THE BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK. MY NAME IS ERIC ALLEN. I HUMBLY SERVE [00:05:01] AS THE BOARD PRESIDENT. WE THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION TODAY. WE ASK THAT EACH OF YOU, EACH OF YOU IN THIS CHAMBER TO REMEMBER THAT BREAST CANCER IS NOT JUST A FEMALE THING, IT IS A MALE THING AS WELL. AND SO WE SERVE THE COMMUNITY TO HELP UNDERINSURED, UNINSURED INDIVIDUALS BE ABLE TO RECEIVE CANCER TESTING AND TREATMENT. SO EVERY DOLLAR THAT IS DONATED TO THE BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK EQUATES OUT TO ROUGHLY ABOUT NINE OR $10 OF ACTUAL MEDICAL SERVICES. SO WE THANK YOU FOR THE RECOGNITION. WE WILL CONTINUE TO DO WHAT WE DO, AND THAT IS TO SERVE THE PEOPLE. THANK YOU. APOLOGIES. OH, I'M SORRY. NO, SORRY. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S HAPPENING NOW. ARE YOU GOING DOWN? SO WE GONNA PHOTOGRAPH? OKAY? YES. OKAY. SO COME ON, COME INSIDE THE RAILING IF YOU DON'T MIND. EVERYONE PLEASE. UH, THIS IS THE CENTER HERE, SO YOU WANT TO ARRANGE YOURSELF RIGHT HERE. AND JUST ONE NOTE, THE BAGS THAT ARE SITTING IN EACH OF YOUR COUNCIL SEATS ARE A SPECIAL GIFT FROM THE BRIDGE BREAST NETWORK. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE THIS MORNING. UM, YEAH. CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU'RE DOWN THERE. ANYBODY ELSE HAD IT DOWN THERE? OKAY, THANK YOU. SURE. MR, ARE YOU READY FOR I HAVE YOU DOWN FOR AN ANNOUNCEMENT THIS MORNING. YES, SIR. YOU, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT PURPOSE. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO CALL MAR DR. MARCY JACKSON DOWN. ALL RIGHT. GOOD MORNING. GOOD MORNING. SO I HAVE A SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR, UH, DR. JACKSON, WHEREAS DR. MARCY JACKSON HAS SERVED THE CITY OF DALLAS AS HOMELESS SOLUTIONS LIAISON AND COMMUNITY RESOURCE SUPERVISOR FOR THE OFFICE OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY EMPOWERMENT WITH EXTRAORDINARY ENERGY COMMITMENT, CREATIVITY, AND COMPASSION. AND WHEREAS ON FEBRUARY 14TH, 2025 AT A COMMUNITY MEETING, MARCY STEPPED FORWARD AND ACCEPTED THE SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGE OF ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS IN THE HAMILTON PARK AND FOREST LANE NEIGHBORHOODS AND ALONG THE COTTONWOOD CREEK TRAIL. WHEREAS THROUGHOUT THE SPRING AND SUMMER OF 2025, MARCY AND HER TEAM WORKED TIRELESSLY TO IDENTIFY HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, CONDUCT OUTREACH TO INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, AND CONNECT THEM IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS WITH NEEDED RESOURCES. AND WHEREAS MARCY BROUGHT TOGETHER THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE DALLAS PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT, HAMILTON PARK, CIVIC LEAGUE, UNITED WAY OF METROPOLITAN, DALLAS, TEXAS INSTRUMENTS DART AND OTHER COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO DEVELOP A COORDINATED, SUSTAINED, I'M GONNA SAY THAT AGAIN. A COORDINATED AND SUSTAINED RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS IN THE AREA. WHEREAS MARCY IDENTIFIED FUNDING TO ENGAGE OUTREACH PROFESSIONALS FROM THE BRIDGE AND TO PROVIDE A SECURITY TEAM FOR REGULAR ENGAGEMENT IN AREAS EXPERIENCING PERSISTENT HOME HOMELESSNESS. NOW, THEREFORE, I KATHY STEWART, COUNCIL MEMBER OF THE CITY OF DALLAS, TO HEREBY EXTEND SPECIAL RECOGNITION TO DR. MARCY JACKSON FOR HER EXCEPTIONAL COMMITMENT, TENACITY, AND ABILITY TO BRING PEOPLE AND RESOURCES TOGETHER. WE HONOR HER FOR DEVELOPING A THOUGHTFUL AND COLLABORATIVE APPROACH TO REDUCING HOMELESSNESS IN AN AREA WHERE INFRASTRUCTURE AND OTHER CHALLENGES HAVE ALLOWED ENCAMPMENTS TO PERSIST. MARCY, YOUR WILLINGNESS TO STEP FORWARD, TAKE OWNERSHIP OF A DIFFICULT CHALLENGE AND STAY WITH IT, HAS MADE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND FOR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE RESIDENTS OF DISTRICT 10 ARE DEEPLY GRATEFUL FOR YOUR SERVICE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. [00:10:02] THANK YOU. WORDS, YES. WORDS. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, THANK YOU MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THIS RECOGNITION. I'M TRULY HONORED AND DEEPLY GRATEFUL. HAMILTON PARK THRIVES HAS NEVER BEEN THE WORK OF ONE PERSON. IT REFLECTS THE COMMITMENT OF HAMILTON PARK COMMUNITY LEADERS, HAMILTON PARK, UNITED METHODIST CHURCH, UNITED WAY, UM, OF METROPOLITAN DALLAS, TEXAS INSTRUMENTS AND TEXAS INSTRUMENTS FOUNDATION, CNA SOLUTIONS AND THE BRIDGE, OUR CITY DEPARTMENTS AND MANY PARTNERS WHO WERE WILLING TO COME TO THE TABLE AND REMAIN AT THAT TABLE. WHEN I JOINED THIS EFFORT, MY ROLE WAS TO LISTEN, CONNECT PEOPLE, AND HELP ALIGN CITY ATTENTION AND RESOURCES WITH THE WORK THE COMM COMMUNITY AND ITS PARTNERS WERE ALREADY LEADING. THAT REFLECTS THE PHILOSOPHY I TRY TO BRING TO EVERY ASSIGNMENT. MEANINGFUL CHANGE BEGINS BY LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE CLOSEST TO THE ISSUE, BUILDING TRUST AND CREATING THE STRUCTURE NEEDED TO TURN SHARED CONCERN INTO SUSTAINED ACTION. I AM PROUD OF WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED TOGETHER, AND I'M EVEN MORE ENCOURAGED BY THE FOUNDATION NOW IN PLACE. AND MY HOPE IS THAT HAMILTON PARK THRIVES, WILL CONTINUE WITH THE SAME SPIRIT OF PARTNERSHIP, ACCOUNTABILITY, AND COMPASSION. I RECEIVED THIS HONOR WITH GRATITUDE, BUT I SHARE IT WITH EVERYONE WHO STOOD WITH ME AND REMAIN FAITHFUL TO THAT WORK. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MAY WE HAVE A PICTURE? ABSOLUTELY. AND MR. MAYOR, SHE'S GOT PEOPLE, OH, I'M SORRY. MR. MAYOR, WHO'S ME OVER HERE, SHE'S GOT, CAN I HAVE A A MOMENT PLEASE? SURE. ABSOLUTELY. GO AHEAD. DR. JACKSON, WHEN I NEEDED HELP, WHEN ZAIN AND I NEEDED HELP WITH A, A DIFFICULT AREA THAT LOOKED JUST LIKE HAMILTON PARK AND TI, YOU AND YOUR TEAM STOOD UP, YOU AND YOUR TEAM CAME OUT, YOU AND YOUR TEAM GUIDED ME, LED ME, AND GAVE ME INSTRUCTIONS THAT I, I MOST DESPERATELY NEEDED. I THANK YOU. I I THANK YOU FOR THAT. WE ARE HONORING YOU, AND I HOPE THAT EVERYTHING ELSE YOU DO IN LIFE IS THE EQUALLY AS TALENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. COME ON INSIDE. ARE YOU GONNA DO A PHOTOGRAPH DOWN HERE? OH, PLEASE. COME ON. INSIDE THE RAILING HERE. DID YOU WRITE THE TEAM DOWN? ALL RIGHT. I BELIEVE THAT'S ALL OF OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS AND SPECIAL RECOGNITION FOR THIS MORNING. SO, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S GO ON TO OUR OATH. MICROPHONE SPEAKERS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND GOOD MORNING. THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL WILL NOW HEAR HIS FIRST FIVE REGISTER SPEAKERS. I WILL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL, ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL, IMP PERTINENT PROFANE OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS, OR WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS. WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM FOR THOSE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE IN PERSON FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. YOU WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE SESSION. INDIVIDUALS WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK FOR THOSE IN-PERSON SPEAKERS. YOU'LL NOTICE THE TIME ON THE MONITOR AT THE PODIUM WHEN YOUR TIME IS [00:15:01] UP. PLEASE STOP FOR THOSE VIRTUAL SPEAKERS. I WILL ANNOUNCE WHEN YOUR TIME HAS EXPIRED. ALSO, SPEAKERS, PLEASE BE MINDFUL THAT DURING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENTS, YOU ARE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND TO ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON, ONLY YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, SHANITA CLEVELAND. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR JOHNSON AND MEMBERS OF THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL. I AM SHANITA CLEVELAND, AND I AM HERE BECAUSE I LOVE DALLAS ENOUGH TO ASK THE HARD QUESTIONS ABOUT WHERE WE ARE GOING. THERE ARE MOMENTS WHEN CITIZENS HAVE TO REMIND GOVERNMENT OF SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE THAT YOU WORK FOR US. DALLAS IS FACING SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT MONEY, PRIORITIES, PRIVACY, TRANSPARENCY, AND THE FUTURE OF THIS VERY BUILDING THAT WE'RE STANDING IN. SO LET ME START HERE. SAVE DALLAS CITY HALL. NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT WAS DESIGNED BY THE ICONIC IM PAY, NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE IT IS RECOGNIZED ALL AROUND THE WORLD AND NOT BECAUSE DALLAS SHOULD BE AFRAID OF CHANGE. SAVE IT BECAUSE BEFORE THIS CITY WALKS AWAY FROM A PUBLIC ASSET THAT GENERATIONS OF DALLAS TAXPAYERS HAVE ALREADY PAID, THE COST FOR GOVERNMENT SHOULD HAVE TO PROVE TO THE PEOPLE THAT ABANDONING IT IS A RESPONSIBLE CHOICE. SHOW US THE NUMBERS. SHOW US THE INDEPENDENT ANALYSIS. SHOW US WHAT THE COSTS REALLY ARE. SHOW US THE REAL MOVING COST, AND SHOW US WHO'S REALLY BENEFITING. WHILE DALLAS EMPLOYEES ARE BEING ASKED TO SACRIFICE THROUGH UNPAID FURLOUGHS AND NO OVERTIME DAYS, TAXPAYERS ARE WATCHING SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNTS OF MONEY CONTINUE TO FLOW INTO THE AREA OF GOVERNMENT. THIS IS NOT ABOUT BEING ANTI-PUBLIC SAFETY. IT'S ABOUT ACCOUNTABILITY FOR EVERY SINGLE DOLLAR. ACCOUNTABILITY MATTERS WITH FLOCK CAMERAS TOO. TECHNOLOGY THAT TRACKS VEHICLES AND PEOPLE ACROSS OUR CITY RAISES VERY SERIOUS QUESTIONS ABOUT PRIVACY, DATA ACCESS, OVERSIGHT, AND THE GOVERNMENT POWER. THE GOVERNMENT HAS THE POWER TO WATCH THE PEOPLE. THEN WHEN DO THE PEOPLE HAVE THE POWER TO WATCH THEIR GOVERNMENT? THESE ISSUES ARE VERY CONNECTED. CITY HALL FURLOUGHS, SURVEILLANCE SPENDING. EVEN THE POTHOLES, DALLAS RESIDENTS DRIVE OVER EVERY SINGLE DAY, NOT TO MENTION THE HOMELESS CRISIS. THEY ALL COME DOWN TO ONE QUESTION. WHO DOES DALLAS REALLY BELONG TO? IT DOES NOT BELONG TO DEVELOPERS. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO SPECIAL INTERESTS. IT DOES NOT BELONG TO A CITY MANAGER. IT DOESN'T BELONG TO THE 15 PEOPLE SITTING AROUND THE HORSESHOE. DALLAS BELONGS TO ITS PEOPLE. SOMETIMES THE PEOPLE ARE ASKING SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE. SAVE DALLAS CITY HALL. DON'T FIRE OUR EMPLOYEES. STOP FLOCK. FIX THE POTHOLES AND HOUSE THE HOMELESS. TAKE CARE OF THE CITY THAT WE ALREADY HAVE BEFORE ASKING TAXPAYERS TO PAY FOR THE NEXT BIG AND BRIGHT IDEA. MAINTAIN WHAT ALREADY BELONGS TO US. ISN'T THAT WHAT YOU SAY TO US? RESPECT THE PEOPLE WHO YOU WORK FOR. PROTECT OUR PRIVACY. FIX THE STREETS. YOU KNOW, I DON'T WANNA SIMPLY BUILD A BIGGER DALLAS, UH, REAL QUICK. MAYOR JOHNSON IS A, THAT'S YOUR TIME HEAD AS BIG AS YOURS. I KNOW THAT ENOUGH. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THERE'S ENOUGH ROOM IN THERE FOR A GOOD IDEA. SAVE DALLAS CITY HALL, PROTECT OUR EMPLOYEES, PROTECT PRIVACY, FIX THE POTHOLES. THANK YOU. CATHERINE PARKER. OH, THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS CATHERINE PARKER. I LIVE AT 58 51 ROYAL CREST DRIVE, 7 5 2 3 0. GOOD MORNING, MAYOR AND THE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK TODAY REGARDING THE PROPOSED REZONING OF THE PRESTON ROYAL SHOPPING CENTER. DALLAS IS A CITY MADE UP OF NEIGHBORHOODS AND BUSINESSES, AND THE SUCCESS OF OUR CITY DEPENDS ON THOSE TWO GROUPS COEXISTING SUCCESSFULLY. MY CONCERN IS WHAT THIS REZONING WOULD MEAN FOR THAT RELATIONSHIP. THE PRESTON HOLLOW NEIGHBORHOODS ARE A SIGNIFICANT AND LONGSTANDING PART OF DALLAS RESIDENTS HERE HAVE INVESTED IN THIS CITY FOR MANY YEARS. WE ARE HOMEOWNERS, WE ARE TAXPAYERS, WE ARE BUSINESS OWNERS, COMMUNITY LEADERS AND SUPPORTERS OF COUNTLESS DALLAS ORGANIZATIONS AND BUSINESSES. BUSINESSES ARE CERTAINLY AN IMPORTANT PART OF A THRIVING CITY, BUT BUSINESSES CHANGE. THEY CAN LOSE. CUSTOMERS RELOCATE OR EVEN LEAVE AN AREA. AND WE'VE SEEN THIS HAPPEN IN OTHER PARTS OF DALLAS, AND PARTICULARLY IN THE DOWNTOWN AREA. [00:20:01] I HAVE SPOKEN WITH, WITH MANY NEIGHBORS WHO ARE DEEPLY CONCERNED ABOUT THIS PROPOSAL. AND WHAT I HEAR MOST IS A SENSE OF DISAPPOINTMENT THAT LONGTIME DALLAS NEIGHBORHOODS MAY NOT FEEL THAT THEIR CONCERNS AND THEIR VOICES ARE BEING GIVEN THE CONSIDERATION THAT THEY DESERVE. SO I ASK THE COUNCIL TO LOOK BEYOND THE IMMEDIATE DEVELOPMENT PROPOSAL AND CONSIDER THE LONG-TERM CONSEQUENCES FOR THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. MOST IMPORTANTLY, I ASK YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT MESSAGE YOU WANT TO SEND TO THE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE INVESTED IN DALLAS AND SUPPORTED THIS CITY FOR DECADES. WHAT DO YOU REALLY WANNA SAY TO THESE NEIGHBORS? DO YOU WANT THEM TO FEEL THAT THEIR VOICES WERE HEARD AND THAT THEIR CONCERNS MATTERED AND THAT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE AN IMPORTANT PLACE IN THE FUTURE OF DALLAS? I HOPE YOU WILL CAREFULLY CONSIDER THOSE QUESTIONS BEFORE MAKING THIS DECISION. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TODAY TO HEAR ME SPEAK. THANK YOU, WILLIAM HOPKINS. MR. HOPKINS, UH, MY NAME IS WILLIAM HOPKINS. UH, MAYOR JOHNSON. WHAT THEY FINNA GIVE OUT IS THE, UH, UH, THIS, THIS LETTER IS 19 FROM AUGUST 13TH, 1997. UH, IT'S WHERE THE CITY OF DALLAS STATING THAT THEY WEREN'T INVOLVED IN THE LEAD. IT'S ALMOST 29 YEARS OF ME COMING DOWN HERE TRYING TO GET HELP FOR THE THOUSANDS OF BLACKS IN, DIED IN WEST DALLAS. Y'ALL JUST SIT HERE. NOBODY SAY NOTHING. AND THE BLACKS JUST DYING IN WEST DALLAS. MY MOTHER, MY FATHER, TWO SISTERS, TWO BROTHERS DEAD FROM FROM THE LEAD, THE DALLAS WARN NEWS, COME OUT IN 2012 AND TESTED FOR LEAD. AND THEY SAY THERE WAS A HIGH LEVEL OF LEAD IN MY MY PARENTS' YARD WHERE MY CHILDREN AND MY BROTHERS AND SISTERS GREW UP. UH, MOST OF 'EM ALL DEAD FROM THE LEAD. UH, Y'ALL JUST SIT HERE. UH, I I I'VE BEEN DOING THIS 29 YEARS. I DON'T, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY. UH, MERRILL JOHNSON, UH, PEOPLE DYING. I TALKED WITH THE EEPA ABOUT TWO WEEKS AGO. THEY SAID IT WAS LEAD THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS, COME OUT AND TESTED, KNOCKED ON MY MOTHER'S DOOR, AND ASKED ME WHAT A LEAD. I I SHOWED 'EM ALL OVER WHAT'S DALLAS? THEY FINALLY LEAD AND THE CITY JUST STILL SIT HERE LETTING THE PEOPLE DIE. I TALKED TO ALL OF THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS REPRESENTING WEST DALLAS. NOBODY SAY NOTHING. JOHN WILEY PRICE AND FRED BOW AND BUD, UH, LAW FIRM COME TO WEST DALLAS, HAD THE PEOPLE COME TO THE BOYS CLUB AND GET, UH, HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS. TOLD HIM, DON'T TELL NOBODY. Y'ALL PUT JOHN ON THE BOARD DOWN HERE AT THE CITY. I DON'T KNOW IF HE, UH, BLACKMAILING Y'ALL NOT TO TELL WHAT HE DID. HIM AND FRED BYRON AND BULL LAW FIRM DID IN WEST DALLAS. I DON'T KNOW WHY Y'ALL PAYING HIM ON THE BOARD AND HE MAKING A HUNDRED SOME THOUSAND DOLLARS AT THE COUNTY. Y'ALL LAYING OFF PEOPLE, UH, PEOPLE STRUGGLING TO PAY BILLS GAS SO HIGH AND Y'ALL LAYING OFF PEOPLE AND, BUT YOU GAVE, UH, MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THAT, UH, DEMOCRATIC, UH, WHATEVER, WHATEVER THAT WAS. UH, Y'ALL GIVE MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO THEM AND THEN TURN AROUND AND LAY OFF ALL OF YOUR WORKERS. THANK YOU. CHRIS MARKS. CHRIS MARKS. IT'S NOT PRESENT. TRINITY EK. HI. GOOD MORNING. UM, I THINK MY VIDEO'S STILL LOADING. THERE WE GO. HI, GOOD MORNING. IT'S REALLY GREAT TO HEAR YOU, UH, TO BE HERE AND TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. MY NAME IS TRINITY. I AM A RESIDENT IN UPTOWN DALLAS IN DISTRICT 14, AND I'M ALSO A NON-DRIVER. WHAT THAT MEANS IS THAT I NO LONGER DRIVE AND I MOSTLY GET AROUND BY WALKING. AND YOUR VIDEO? YES. YOUR VIDEO IS NOT DISPLAYING. OH, LET ME TRY TURNING IT OFF AND ON AGAIN. WHAT ABOUT NOW? WE CAN SEE YOU, YOU MAY CONTINUE. WONDERFUL. UM, AND I AM A NON-DRIVER. [00:25:01] I AM A PART OF THE ONE THIRD OF AMERICANS ACCORDING TO THE NATURAL RESOURCES DEFENSE COUNCIL WHO ARE NON-DRIVERS. AND THESE FOLKS NO LONGER DRIVE DUE TO AGE, ABILITY, INCOME OR FOR PERSONAL CHOICE. WHAT THIS MEANS IS THAT IN OUR CAR DEPENDENT LANDSCAPE, IT CAN BE REALLY DIFFICULT TO GET AROUND, UH, WITHOUT A CAR AND MOVE INDEPENDENTLY THROUGH OUR COMMUNITIES. INCOMES WEAK WITHOUT DRIVING, WHICH STARTED AS A NATIONAL CAMPAIGN IN 2021 TO REALLY BRING AWARENESS TO THE EXPERIENCES OF NON-DRIVERS AND THEN THE BARRIERS AND OBSTACLES THAT THEY FACE IN ACCESSING THE PLACES THAT THEY NEED TO GET TO IN THEIR COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY TO POLICY MAKERS. ELECTED LEADERS IN TRANSPORTATION OFFICIALS WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING, KICKS OFF ON OCTOBER 1ST AND GOES THROUGH OCTOBER 8TH. AND WE ARE INVITING CITY COUNCIL TO PARTICIPATE AND JOIN US. WE ARE ASKING THAT YOU PLEASE COME TO THE OCTOBER 7TH CITY COUNCIL MEETING WITHOUT YOUR CAR. UH, AND BY TRYING A DIFFERENT MODE OF TRANSPORTATION LIKE CYCLING, WALKING, OR TAKING TRANSIT, AND REALLY SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE, WE ALSO ENCOURAGE THAT YOU SIGN UP AT DALLAS WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING TO COMMIT TO PARTICIPATE IN THE WEEK. AND IF YOU'D LIKE TO MEET SOME CONSTITUENTS WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN WEEK WITHOUT DRIVING, WE'RE HOSTING A HAPPY HOUR AT WESTLAKE BREWING ON OCTOBER 9TH AT 5:30 PM SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING, UH, AND I HOPE YOU ARE ABLE TO JOIN US. THANK YOU. LAURA SOTO, MY NAME IS NO SOTO. I'M HERE TO DEMAND THAT CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS TO AND FOR BE PULLED AND TABLED UNTIL CANCEL CAN PROVIDE THE PUBLIC A DETAILED EXPLANATION ABOUT WHERE THIS MONEY IS GOING TO BE SPENT. WHEN ABBOTT FROZE STATE FUNDING FOR FLOCK CAMERAS EARLIER THIS YEAR, HE DID SO DUE TO GROWING PUBLIC PRESSURE AND DISAPPROVAL OF THE TECHNOLOGY FROM HIS CONSTITUENTS. WE ALL KNOW THAT HIS INTENTIONS ARE ROOTED IN PLACATING THE MASSES BEFORE THE UPCOMING ELECTION. BUT AREN'T YOU STILL EMBARRASSED THAT ABBOTT IS DOING A BETTER JOB OF LISTENING AND LEARNING THAN Y'ALL ARE, EVEN AFTER LOSING FUNDING FOR 321 FLOCK CAMERAS IN THE CITY, WHICH WOULD STILL LEAVE YOU WITH AT LEAST 363 THAT WE KNOW OF, UH, ACTIVE BY THE WAY, YOU STILL STUBBORNLY, UH, PLAN TO USE FUNDS MEN TO IMPROVE OUR QUALITY OF LIFE ON THIS ILLEGAL WARRANTLESS SURVEILLANCE. IT'S NOT A COINCIDENCE THAT THE GRANT AMOUNT OUTLINED IN ITEM TWO IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS WHAT IS NEEDED TO FUND THE CITY'S F CONTRACT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET YEAR. Y'ALL AIN'T SLICK. ITEM FOUR ASKS FOR ANOTHER 1.5 MILLION FROM THE SAME AGENCY. THE CITY'S FILINGS FOR THESE ITEMS STATES THAT THE FUNDS WILL BE USED FOR BAKE CARS, WHICH YEAH, AND SURVEILLANCE. AMONG OTHER THINGS WHEN IT COMES TO FLOCK, AXON AND OTHER SURVEILLANCE TECHNOLOGIES, THIS COUNCIL IS SPLIT AND MAYOR ARE SPLIT INTO THREE GROUPS FAR RIGHT FASCISTS WHO WANT TO EXPAND POLICE MILITARIZATION, USELESS CENTRIST, WHO WANT TO BE APPLAUDED FOR DOING THE BARE MINIMUM. AND A FEW MEMBERS WHO NEVER HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON REGARDLESS OF AFFILIATION. NEITHER OF THESE GROUPS HAS THEIR BEST INTEREST IN MIND WHEN IT COMES TO THE CITY'S FINANCES. AND THAT IS BECOMING CLEARER EVERY DAY. IT'S LIKE YOU GUYS FORGET THAT YOUR SEATS ARE ALSO UP FOR ELECTION NEXT YEAR IN NOVEMBER, 2027. I WANNA TAKE THE LAST BIT OF MY TIME TO ACKNOWLEDGEABLE HOPKINS WHO HAS BEEN COMING HERE. I, I THINK I'M HERE ALL THE TIME. HE'S HERE ALL THE TIME. AND YOU GUYS NEED TO ADDRESS, I, I CAN'T SAY NAMES, BUT DISTRICT TWO, DISTRICT SIX NEED TO ADDRESS WHAT'S HAPPENING IN WEST DALLAS WITH THE GAF PLAN THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED. IT WAS RULED THAT IT NEEDED TO BE REMOVED YEARS AGO. THEY'RE DRAGGING THEIR ASS BECAUSE THEY DON'T WANNA SPEND THE MONEY TO DO IT. AND YOU GUYS ARE PUTTING A COMPANY, A CORPORATION AHEAD OF THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS, THE HEALTH OF RE THE RESIDENTS. YES. I'M LOOKING AT YOU. SO PLEASE RESPECT THE PEOPLE OF WEST DALLAS, THE PEOPLE OF DALLAS IN GENERAL. THANK YOU. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR FIRST FIVE REGISTERED SPEAKERS. THE REMAINING SPEAKERS WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL AT THE CONCLUSION OF ITS CITY BUSINESS, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, LET'S MOVE ON WITH [MINUTES] OUR VOTING AGENDA. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM ONE IS APPROVAL OF MINUTES OF THE SEPTEMBER 9TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING. SO MOVED. THANK YOU. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING THAT? ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. [CONSENT AGENDA] THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON TWO OF YOUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER, BARRETT JOHNSTON BARRETT JOHNSTON WILL BE SPEAKING ON CONSENT AGENDA ITEM TWO. GOOD MORNING. MY NAME IS BARRETT JOHNSTON. I LIVE IN [00:30:01] DISTRICT SIX. I'M ASKING THIS COUNCIL TO PULL ITEM TWO AND ITEM FOUR FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND TO NOT ACCEPT EITHER GRANT WITHOUT REAL CONDITIONS ON HOW THE MONEY IS SPENT. ITEM TWO ASKS FOR $1.1 MILLION IN STATE GRANT MONEY DESCRIBED ONLY AS A GENERAL AUTO THEFT PROGRAM. ITEM FOUR ASKED FOR ANOTHER $1.4 MILLION FROM THE SAME STATE AGENCY'S BROADER AUTHORITY, SAME PATTERN, BIGGER NUMBER. THIS EXACT M-V-C-P-A GRANT CATEGORY HAS ALREADY FUNDED. FLOCK LICENSE PLATE CAMERAS IN DALLAS, A SEPARATE $1.22 MILLION ROUND, BOUGHT 200 OF THEM LAST YEAR. AND THE CITY'S EXISTING FLOCK CONTRACT IS COUNTING ON ALMOST EXACTLY ITEM TWO'S AMOUNT, $1.127 MILLION FOR ITS NEXT YEAR BUDGET. THIS IS NOT SPECULATION. THE CITY'S OWN FILING FOR ITEM TWO SAYS THESE OPERATIONS QUOTE CAN INCLUDE BAIT CARS, SURVEILLANCE, ARRESTING OFFENDERS, AND TRAFFIC STOPS. THE CITY HAS CONFIRMED THIS MONEY FUND SURVEILLANCE. IT JUST HASN'T SAID HOW MUCH GOES TOWARDS CAMERAS. WE NO LONGER HAVE TO GUESS WHETHER THIS FUNDING PLAYS FOR FLOCK OR NOT. ON SEPTEMBER 1ST, DPD CONFIRMED THAT 321 OF ITS 684 FLOCK CAMERAS WENT DARK ON SEPTEMBER 15TH BECAUSE THEY WERE FUNDED BY A STATE GRANT. GOVERNOR ABBOTT FROZE. ONE WEEK LATER, THIS COUNCIL REJECTED A PROPOSAL TO END THE REMAINING LOCAL FLOCK FUNDING TWO WITH ONLY THREE MEMBERS VOTING TO END IT. STRANGELY, ACCEPTING THIS MONEY TODAY DOESN'T BREAK ANY RULE. THE GOVERNOR'S DIRECTIVE WAS NEVER A SPECIFIC LAW. IT'S A VAGUE POLICY STATEMENT WITH NO REQUIREMENT TO DISCLOSE WHERE THE MONEY GOES. NOTHING STOPS THIS COUNCIL FROM TAKING IT NOW AND QUIETLY DIRECTING IT TO FLOCK LATER. SO I'M ASKING FOR SEPARATE VOTES ON ITEMS TWO AND FOUR AND A PUBLIC ACCOUNTING OF HOW THIS MONEY HAS ACTUALLY BEEN SPENT BEFORE. MORE OF IT GOES TOWARDS A SURVEILLANCE NETWORK DALLAS RESIDENTS NEVER APPROVED AND VERY EXPLICITLY DON'T WANT IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS. FINALLY, I'D LIKE TO GIVE A SPECIAL THANKS TO THE MAYOR WHO ANNOUNCED SO PROUDLY AT THE TRUMP RALLY TWO WEEKS AGO THAT HE'S BUILT A SANCTUARY FOR SOCIALISTS RIGHT HERE IN DALLAS. DID I GET THAT RIGHT? IT REALLY DOES HAVE A NICE RING TO IT. SOCIALIST SANCTUARY. AS A PROUD MEMBER OF DSA NORTH TEXAS, I WANNA THANK YOU FOR YOUR GENEROSITY. YOU'VE MADE IT POSSIBLE FOR SOCIALISTS LIKE ME TO THRIVE IN THIS CITY BECAUSE FIGHTING PEOPLE LIKE YOU IS EXACTLY WHAT GIVES US THE DRIVE TO MAKE DALLAS A BETTER PLACE TO LIVE. THE JOB YOU CAN'T SEEM TO DO YOURSELF IS BEING DONE BY SOCIALISTS. WE ARE YOUR TEACHERS, YOUR MECHANICS, YOUR NURSES, YOUR ENGINEERS, YOUR STUDENTS, YOUR ASSISTANTS. AND SOON SOME OF US MAY BE COUNCIL MEMBERS. MAKE NO MISTAKE WE'RE HERE. WE'VE BEEN HERE AND WE'RE NOT GOING ANYWHERE BECAUSE WE LOVE THIS CITY. DO YOU PLEASE PULL BOTH AGENDA ITEMS? THANK YOU. THANK YOU. YOUR NEXT SPEAKER, ANA EM. WE'LL BE SPEAKING ON AGENDA ITEM NINE. GOOD MORNING. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE BRIDGE AND OUR WORK UNDER THE MANAGEMENT SERVICES CONTRACT, THE MSC. WE APPRECIATE THE CITY AND COUNTY'S PARTNERSHIP AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE SERVING DALLAS RESIDENTS, EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. OUR PRIORITY CENTER ON ONE MAIN GOAL, HELPING PEOPLE EXIT HOMELESSNESS INTO HOUSING. I'VE IMMERSED MYSELF IN THE BRIDGE OVER THE PAST TWO MONTHS AND I'VE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON CAMPUS AT ALL TIMES OF THE DAY SPEAKING WITH THE VERY GUESTS WE SERVE. HERE'S WHAT THEY SHARED WITH ME. ONE GUEST SHARED THAT THE BRIDGE SAVED HIS LIFE. HOW HE SAID BECAUSE WE HELD HIM ACCOUNTABLE AND DIDN'T GIVE UP ON HIM. EVEN THOUGH THERE WERE DAYS HE'D GIVEN UP ON HIMSELF. ONE GUEST SHARED THAT THE BRIDGE FEELS LIKE COMMUNITY AND THAT SHE IS SEEN REALLY SEEN FOR WHO SHE IS. ONE GUEST SHARED THAT HE HAD MADE MISTAKES WHEN HE WAS YOUNG. HE DID THINGS HE SHOULDN'T HAVE. BUT THANK GOD FOR SECOND CHANCES AND THANK GOD FOR THE BRIDGE. THESE CONVERSATIONS REINFORCE SOMETHING. WE KNOW THAT WE DON'T GIVE UP ON PEOPLE NO MATTER WHAT. AND WE ARE HERE FOR THEM 24 7 FOR WHEN THEY ARE READY. UNDER THE MSC, THROUGH AUGUST, 2026, WE SERVED 6,311 UNDUPLICATED GUESTS WITH DAY SHELTER, 105% OF OUR GOAL. WE SERVED 2,480 UNDUPLICATED GUESTS WITH NIGHT SHELTER, 149% OF GOAL. WE PROVIDED 122,000 123 TOTAL SHELTER BEDS. 145% OF GOAL. THAT IS ALMOST 38,000 ADDITIONAL BED NIGHTS OF SHELTER. THOUGH WE KNOW IT'S NOT ENOUGH, WE ARE STILL TURNING AWAY APPROXIMATELY A HUNDRED TO 150 PEOPLE EVERY NIGHT. BECAUSE OF LACK OF SHELTER SPACE. WE HAVE HOUSED 585 UNDUPLICATED GUESTS, 156% OF GOAL. OUR RESPONSIBILITY ALSO EXTENDS BEYOND OUR CAMPUS. WE STRIVE TO BE GOOD NEIGHBORS AND WORK TO BE RESPONSIVE AND ACCOUNTABLE TO OUR COMMUNITY. FISCAL YEAR TO DATE, WE ENGAGED WITH 12,253 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IN OUR SUR [00:35:01] SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND CONDUCTED 677 CLEANING OPERATIONS. THE MAJORITY OF THESE INDIVIDUALS ARE CURRENT GUESTS OF THE BRIDGE, AND BECAUSE OF OUR ENGAGEMENT, WE HELPED THEM MOVE AWAY FROM NEIGHBORHOODS BACK ONTO OUR CAMPUS. OUR COMMITMENT TO CLEANLINESS KEEPS OUR LOCAL BUSINESSES THRIVING AS THE CITY'S ONLY LOW BARRIER SHELTER AND ENTRY POINT FOR ALL ADULTS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. WE ARE A NECESSARY AND VITAL PART OF THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM AND WE MUST CONTINUE WHAT WE DO, WHERE WE DO IT, AND HOW WE DO IT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR CONSENT AGENDA. YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 47 AND THERE WERE SOME LAST MINUTE CHANGES. AGENDA ITEM 45 HAS BEEN PLACED BACK ON THE CONSENT AGENDA AND COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN HAS BEEN ADDED TO AGENDA ITEM 41. AGENDA ITEM SIX WAS DELETED. AGENDA ITEM EIGHT WAS DELETED. AGENDA ITEM NINE WAS CORRECTED AND IT HAS A CLARIFICATION. ITEM NINE IS CLARIFYING THAT THE TOTAL CONTRACT AMOUNT FOR THE FOR FIVE YEAR FOR YEAR FIVE IS AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $5,147,500. AGENDA ITEM SIX HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON. AGENDA ITEM 27 HAS BEEN CORRECTED AND HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN WEST AND MENDELSSOHN. AGENDA ITEM 41 HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN AGENDA ITEM 42 HAS BEEN CORRECTED AND HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. AGENDA ITEM 43 WAS CORRECTED. THEREFORE, YOUR CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS TWO THROUGH 5 7 9 THROUGH 25, 28 THROUGH 40 AND 43 THROUGH 47. THIS IS YOUR CONSENT AGENDA, MR. MAYOR. SECOND, I HEARD A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES IF SO, THANK YOU MAYOR JOHNSON. I JUST WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON, UH, AGENDA ITEM 20 ON THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M EXCITED TO BRING FORWARD A SKILLMAN CORRIDOR TIFF PROJECT FOR COUNCIL THIS MORNING, LAKE HIGHLANDS RESIDENT TREY CHAPMAN PURCHASED AN OLD CAR WASH ALONG WALNUT HILL A FEW YEARS AGO AND IS NOW PROPOSING TO REDEVELOP THE PROPERTY. THE EXISTING CAR WASH WILL BE DEMOLISHED AND REPLACED WITH A TWO STORY BUILDING FEATURING RETAIL ON THE FIRST FLOOR AND OFFICE SPACE ABOVE. WHAT I PARTICULARLY LIKE ABOUT THIS PROJECT IS HOW IT'LL BEGIN TO CHANGE THE CHARACTER OF THIS STRETCH OF WALNUT HILL. THE BUILDING WILL BE BROUGHT CLOSER TO THE STREET, CREATING A MORE PEDESTRIAN FRIENDLY ENVIRONMENT WITH PATIOS AND CAFE STYLE OUTDOOR SEATING, PEDESTRIAN SCALE LIGHTING, STREET FURNITURE, PLANTERS AND LANDSCAPING. IT WILL CREATE A MORE INVITING PLACE FOR PEOPLE TO WALK, GATHER, SHOP, AND DINE. THIS PROPERTY HAS HAD SEVERAL LIVES OVER THE YEARS FROM A HARDEE'S HAMBURGER RESTAURANT. IF ANYBODY REMEMBERS HARDEE'S TO A SAVINGS AND LOAN AND MOST RECENTLY, THE CAR WASH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS EXCITED TO SEE IT BE REDEVELOPED INTO SOMETHING THAT BETTER SERVES THE COMMUNITY AND CONTRIBUTES TO THE CONTINUED REVITALIZATION OF THE SKILLMAN CORRIDOR. THIS IS A CLEAR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT BENEFIT. RE REDEVELOPING THIS PROPERTY WILL INCREASE ITS VALUE, BRING NEW RETAIL ACTIVITY TO THE AREA, AND GENERATE SALES TAX REVENUE THAT THE CURRENT CAR WASH DOES NOT PROVIDE. REINVESTMENT IN AGING PROPERTIES THAT STRENGTHEN THE CORRIDOR AND SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND CREATE A MORE WALKABLE AND ATTRACTIVE COMMUNITY IS THE TYPE OF REDEVELOPMENT WE NEED IN DISTRICT 10. THANK YOU MAYOR JOHNSON. CHAIRMAN WEST, DO YOU, DO YOU WANT SPEAK ON CONSENT? YOU'RE FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I WANT TO FIRST TOUCH ON ITEM 17, THE SAFARI TRAIL AFRICAN SHORES ITEM FOR THE DALLAS ZOO. I'M VERY EXCITED TO SEE THIS IMPORTANT IN INVESTMENT IN OUR ZOO MOVE FORWARD. AND I WANNA RECOGNIZE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM JOHNSON'S LEADERSHIP ON BEHALF OF THE ZOO, WHICH MANY OF DISTRICT ONE RESIDENTS RIGHT ACROSS THE RIGHT ACROSS THE, UH, HALPERIN PARK USE. ALSO THANKS TO LISA NEW AND THE ENTIRE DALLAS ZOO TEAM, THE SAFARI TAIL TRAIL RECEIVED $30 MILLION FROM THE VOTERS IN THE 2024 BOND WITH A TWO TO ONE PRIVATE MATCH FROM THE ZOO. THE FIRST PHASE AFRICAN SHORELINES WILL INCLUDE 9.5 MILLION IN BOND FUNDS AND 26.5 MILLION IN PRIVATE FUNDS. WE, WE HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THE CMAR AND TODAY'S VOTE VOTE IS THE FINAL CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT TO MOVE PHASE ONE FORWARD. IT'S AMAZING TO SEE OUR PARTNERS STEP UP AND GET MUCH NEEDED PRIVATE DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THE LIMITED PUBLIC DOLLARS. WE HAVE ALL THREE PHASES WILL TOTAL APPROXIMATELY $100 MILLION, THE LARGEST INVESTMENT IN THE ZOO'S HISTORY. SECONDLY, I WANT TO ACKNOWLEDGE, UM, ITEM 39, UH, THE JEFFERSON COMPLETE STREET PROJECT. I WANT TO FIRST ACKNOWLEDGE THE HARD WORK OF TRANSPORTATION PUBLIC WORKS [00:40:01] ON THIS, UM, AND OUR BOND OFFICE. THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT 2024 BOND PROJECT THAT WILL INCLUDE DESIGN FOR A COMPLETE STREET ALONG JEFFERSON, BETWEEN HAMPTON AND POLK, RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OF THE WINNETKA HEIGHTS NEIGHBORHOOD. THANKS TO ALL THE VOTERS WHO APPROVED THE 2024 BOND. AND THIS ITEM, WHICH WILL HELP MAKE JEFFERSON BOULEVARD A SAFER STREET TO WALK, BIKE, AND DRIVE. UM, AS WITH THE NEW KEVIN SLOAN PARK TOUCHING THIS CORRIDOR AND MANY FAMILIES WALKING AROUND OR PUSHING STROLLERS, IT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE ENSURE THIS DANGEROUS CORRIDOR IS DESIGNED IN A SAFER WAY TO HELP SLOW DOWN CARS. SPEEDING AND RECKLESS DRIVING ARE PERVASIVE IN OUR DALLAS CULTURE. IT IS THE NUMBER ONE COMPLAINT, MY OFFICE HERES ON A DAILY BASIS. WHILE EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT CERTAINLY HELP, I FOLLOW THE EVIDENCE THAT SHOWS THAT ROADWAY DESIGN IS THE BEST TOOL WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR STREETS SAFER. THANK YOU TO NEIGHBORS, WILLIAM ZIMMERMAN, RUSS EGGMAN, AND OTHERS FOR FIGHTING FOR THIS PROJECT AND DOING THE PRELIMINARY COMMUNITY INPUT ON POSSIBLE ROADWAY SAFETY IMPROVEMENTS. I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE THIS PROCESS MOVE FORWARD AND HOPE THAT IT ULTIMATELY LEADS TO A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE COUNTY TO INVEST THE FUNDS IN CONSTRUCTION ONCE WE FINALIZE THE DESIGN IN 2029. THANK YOU, MS. MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WELL, FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO CITY STAFF. THERE'S A LOT OF ITEMS ON OUR CONSENT AGENDA THAT ARE GRANTS AND IT TAKES A LOT OF TIME AND EFFORT TO GO AFTER THEM. AND WE NEED THESE GRANT DOLLARS. AND SO YOU'VE DONE A GOOD JOB OF GETTING THEM AND I WANNA SAY THANK YOU. THE SECOND I WANNA POINT OUT IS ITEM NINE 11 AND 42, WHICH ARE ALL FUNDING FOR, UM, HOMELESS SERVICES. I DIDN'T PULL THEM OFF. THEY'RE ALL NECESSARY, BUT THEY'RE ALL COMING OUTTA GENERAL FUNDS. AND AS WE THINK ABOUT HOW MUCH MONEY WE HAVE IN GENERAL FUNDS TO PROVIDE ESSENTIAL SERVICES, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A BIGGER CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT ARE WE INVESTING IN AND WHAT ARE WE ACTUALLY GETTING FOR THAT INVESTMENT. SO THAT CONVERSATION WAS BROACHED A LITTLE BIT AT THE HOUSING COMMITTEE AND WE'RE TOLD WE WILL GET THE FINANCIALS ON ALL OF THE INVESTMENTS THAT WE'VE MADE. I CAN COUNT ABOUT $17 MILLION THAT WE'RE INVESTING IN SPECIFIC NONPROFITS, AND THAT'S JUST THIS FISCAL YEAR. AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ANYTHING WITH BOND. THIS IS JUST AT A GENERAL FUND. AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THAT. BUT FOLKS, WE'VE GOTTA HAVE A REAL CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT ARE WE DOING AND WHAT ARE WE GETTING FOR THAT INVESTMENT. THE OTHER ITEM I'D LIKE TO TALK ABOUT IS ITEM 17, THE ZOO. I'M VERY EXCITED ABOUT THE SAFARI TRAILS AND I'M GLAD TO SEE SO MANY IMPROVEMENTS IN THE ZOO. UM, THAT SAID, WE ALSO NEED TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE ZO THAT IT IS NOT SUSTAINABLE FOR US TO FUND 36% OF THEIR BUDGET. AND WE NEED TO PUT FOLKS ON NOTICE SAYING THIS IS NOT GONNA CONTINUE. THIS IS WAY OUTTA WHACK WHEN YOU LOOK AT OTHER ZOOS IN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES, UH, BIG CITIES IN TEXAS, WHEN YOU LOOK ACROSS THE COUNTRY MANY TIMES, THEY ARE NOT SUPPORTED AT THIS KIND OF LEVEL AND SOMETIMES NO CITY INVESTMENT AT ALL IN THE ZOO. SO WE HAVE TO BE SETTING A DIFFERENT LEVEL OF EXPECTATION THAT THE CITY CANNOT CARRY THE ZOO'S OPERATIONAL BUDGET. IT JUST CAN'T. AND SO I'M THRILLED TO SEE THIS HAPPEN. I HOPE IT MEANS MORE INVESTMENT FROM PHILANTHROPISTS. I HOPE IT MEANS MORE GRANTS FOR THEM TO RECEIVE AND MORE VISITORS SO THAT THEY CAN GENERATE THAT REVENUE. BUT WE ALSO NEED TO LET THEM KNOW THERE'S A PLAN TO LONG-TERM REDUCE THAT BURDEN ON THE DALLAS TAXPAYER TO BE FUNDING THE 36% OF THE ZOO'S BUDGET. THANK YOU MS. BLAIR, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON CONSENT. UM, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEMS 9, 11, 12 AND 47. UM, ON ITEM NINE, THE BRIDGES, THE CITY'S LO ONLY LOW BARRIER SHELTER FOR ADULT MEN AND WOMEN EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THIS $5.1 MILLION CONTRACT SUPPORT DAY AND NIGHT SHELTERS, ME MEALS, HYGIENE SERVICES, CASE MANAGEMENT, HOUSING ASSISTANCE, PET KENNELS, AND STREET OUTREACH. AS OF JULY, THE BRIDGE HAS PROVIDED MORE THAN 11 111,000 SHELTER BED NIGHTS EXCEEDING ITS GOAL OF APPROXIMATELY 84,000. THIS ACTION ENSURES THAT PEOPLE EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS, CONTINUE TO HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO GO AND ACCESS TO, TO SERVICE THAT CAN HELP THEM MOVE TOWARD PERMANENT HOUSING. I APPRECIATE THE BRIDGE AND STEPS AND CITY STAFFER THIS ESSENTIAL WORK AND I RISK AND I RESPECTFULLY ASK MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT. ITEM NUMBER 11, [00:45:01] THIS $250,000 CONTRACT PROVIDES RENTAL AND UTILITY ASSISTANCE, CASE MANAGEMENT, TRANSPORTATION, NUTRITION, COUNSELING, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, AND OTHER SUPPORTS THAT HELP OLDER ADULTS ATTAIN. I DON'T LIKE THE WORD OLDER. I LIKE MORE MATURE ADULTS ATTAIN AND MAINTAIN STABLE HOUSING. ARE SENIORS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS OFTEN FACE HEALTH, MOBILITY AND FINANCIAL CHALLENGES THAT MAKE IT ESPECIALLY DIS DIFFICULT TO RE REGAIN HOUSING WITHOUT TARGETED ASSISTANCE. THIS PROGRAM ADDRESSES THESE BARRIERS BY PREPARE, BY PAIRING HOUSING SUBSIDIES WITH INDIVIDUAL SUPPORT. NUMBER 12, UM, THIS $255,000, UH, SUPPORT TO HARMONY COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT CORPORATION, CATHOLIC CHARITIES OF DALLAS AND THE STEWPOT FOR HOMELESS DIVERSION SERVICES. DIVERSION PROVIDES FLEXIBLE SHORT TERM ASSISTANCE TO HELP HOUSEHOLDS RESOLVE AN IMMEDIATE HOUSING CRISIS WITHOUT ENTERING INTO AN EMERGENCY. SHELTER. SERVICES MAY INCLUDE RENTAL AND UTILITY ARREARS, TRANSPORTATION, WORK RELATED ASSISTANCE, CASE MANAGEMENT, AND HELP OBTAINING IDENTIFICATION. UH, DOCUMENTS. ITEM NUMBER 47. UM, THIS $326,000 FEDERAL GRANT SUPPORTS THE SOUTH DALLAS DRUG COURT AND PROVIDES TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES, RECOVERY SUPPORT, JOB TRAINING, FINANCIAL PLANNING, AND OTHER SERVICES DESIGNED TO HELP PEOPLE ADDRESS THE UNDERLYING ISSUES THAT REPEATEDLY BRING THEM TO THE CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. THIS, THIS PARTICULAR GRANT AND COMMUN AND THE DRUG COURT HELPS KEEP PEOPLE FROM BEING CRIMINALIZED FROM A DRUG FOR THEIR DRUG EDITION PROBLEMS, ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY'RE ALSO EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY, ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. I THINK. UM, CONSENT AGENDAS ADOPTED. NEXT ITEM. [26. 26-2948A Authorize acquisition of three single-family dwellings and two vacant lots, containing a total of approximately 28,178 square feet of land located near the intersection of McGowan and Nolen Streets for the Cadillac Heights Phase II Project (list attached to the Agenda Information Sheet) - Not to exceed $800,500.00 ($786,000.00, plus closing costs and title expenses not to exceed $14,500.00) - Financing: Land Acquisition in Cadillac Heights Fund (2006 General Obligation Bond Fund)] LOOK. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. WE'LL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST POOLED ITEM AGENDA. ITEM 26. ITEM 26, AUTHORIZED ACQUISITION OF THREE SINGLE FAMILY DWELLINGS AND TWO VACANT LOTS CONTAINING A TOTAL OF APPROXIMATELY 28,178 SQUARE FEET OF LAND LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF MCGOWAN AND NOLAN STREETS FOR THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS PHASE TWO PROJECT NOW TO EXCEED $800,500. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR, FOR A MOTION. I HEARD A MOTION IN A SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION FROM CHAIRWOMAN WHO PULLED THIS? MS. MENDELSON? THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON. OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FIRST FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE SOURCE OF FUNDS. GOOD MORNING, JOHN JOHNSON. HI. CAN YOU SHARE WITH US THE SOURCE OF FUNDS FOR THIS? THESE ARE FROM THE 2006 LAND ACQUISITION BOND FUND. AND THAT ITEM, UM, WAS TOLD TO VOTERS THAT THE LAND ACQUISITION WOULD BE FOR WHAT PURPOSE FOR MAINTENANCE, UH, MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE FACILITIES FOR CITY SERVICES. AND THEN THERE WAS A PORTION IN 2003 FOR POLICE ACADEMY. SO ON OCTOBER 30TH, 2006, EIGHT DAYS BEFORE THAT NOVEMBER 7TH BOND ELECTION, THE DALLAS MORNING NEWS RAN AN ARTICLE BY EMILY RAMSHAW IN THE HEADLINE READ BOND PACKAGE WOULD DIVEST IN DALLAS PUBLIC SAFETY. AND IT DISCUSSED THE 24 MILLION FOR CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND REPEATEDLY FRAME THE ACQUISITION AS THE FIRST STEP TOWARDS A NEW DALLAS POLICE ACADEMY. WOULD YOU AGREE THAT IS WHAT HAPPENED? UH, I'M NOT SURE THAT I CAN SPEAK ON SOMETHING FROM 2006. I HAVEN'T READ. I APOLOGIZE. OKAY. WELL, I WOULD SAY THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS LAND ACQUISITION FOR A POLICE ACADEMY AND WE ARE USING IT FOR A DIFFERENT PURPOSE AND THEREFORE I WILL NOT BE VOTING FOR THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. CHAIRMAN MORENO, ARE YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES? THIS IS ITEM 26. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR WORKING WITH THE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR, FOR THAT DISTRICT. I KNOW THAT HE'S WORKING CLOSELY WITH HIS COMMUNITY TO BRING SOMETHING THAT THOSE NEIGHBORS WOULD LIKE TO SEE ON THIS, UH, PIECE OF [00:50:01] PROPERTY. AND AGAIN, JUST GLAD THAT WE'VE HAD OUR GROUNDBREAKING FOR OUR POLICE ACADEMY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN RIDLEY, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 26. SO DIRECTOR JOHNSON, WHAT IS THE PURPOSE FOR THIS LAND ACQUISITION FOR MAINTENANCE AND CITY SERVICE CENTERS? SO WHAT DEPARTMENTS WILL OPERATE THIS FACILITY? MANY. UH, THERE WOULD BE FLEET POLICE, FIRE, UH, TRANSPORTATION. SANITATION IS CURRENTLY IN THE CODE, UH, IN THE, UM, CENTRAL SERVICE CENTER. IT'S A VARIETY OF DEPARTMENTS THAT LOCATE IN A SERVICE CENTER. SO WILL THIS FACILITY REPLACE ANOTHER EXISTING FACILITY? SO IN THEORY, YES. HOWEVER, THIS IS THE FIRST STEP IS TO COMPLETE THE ASSEMBLAGE. WE DO NOT HAVE THE DESIGNS OR THE FUNDING FOR THAT NEXT PHASE THAT'S YET TO BE APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. WHAT FACILITY WOULD IT REPLACE? IT'S ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD BE CANTON STREET, BUT THAT, AGAIN, HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THE VOTERS, HAS NOT BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BODY CITY ATTORNEY. UH, COULD YOU OPINE AS TO WHETHER THESE BOND FUNDS THAT WERE ORIGINALLY APPROVED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER CAN NOW BE REALLOCATED TO A CITY SERVICE CENTER? MR. MAYOR, THE BOND FUNDS, I BELIEVE THE PROPOSITION, I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME, BUT I BELIEVE IT OFFERED THREE THINGS. IT WAS A MAINTENANCE CENTER, IT WAS A POLICE TRAINING CENTER, AND IT WAS ALSO POSSIBLY A PARK USE. I'M LOOKING AT CONNIE TO GET A NOD OR NOT. SO IT WAS FOR THOSE THREE USES AND IT IS ALLOWED, OH, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. CONNIE, DO YOU WANNA COME OUT? I GOT A NOD AND A CONNIE KERSEY WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UM, IT, THE FIRST TWO THAT YOU LISTED WERE CORRECT, BUT THEN LATER, UH, THE CITY COUNCIL, UH, REPURPOSED THE, THE LAND, UM, THE BOND PROPOSITION IS LIMITED TO JUST THE ACQUISITION OF LAND. UM, AND WITH THE PURPOSE, UH, IT CAN BE REPURPOSED IF, IF THE, IF OTHER MONIES CAN BE USED FOR THAT. AND SO THERE WAS A LATER PROP LATER ACTION BY THE CITY COUNCIL TO ALLOW THE DEVELOPMENT OF A PARK WITH SOME OF THE LAND THAT WAS ACQUIRED THERE. UM, JOHN IS CORRECT. UH, THE BOND PROPOSITION ALLOW, WOULD ALLOW FOR THE ACQUISITION OF THE REMAINDER LOTS FOR THE SECOND PURPOSE, WHICH IS THE SERVICE FACILITIES. THANK YOU MAYOR. MR. BLACKMAN. RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. ITEM 26. THANK YOU. UM, SO JOHN, IN THIS 2006, UH, BOND PROPOSITION, HOW MUCH IS STILL IN THAT PROPOSITION? UH, THE LAST THAT WE LOOKED THERE WAS APPROXIMATELY $10 MILLION REMAINING. SO THERE'S $10 MILLION OF THAT AND YOU'RE GONNA BE USING 800 OF IT. CORRECT. THERE ARE A FEW PARCELS THAT REMAIN AFTER THIS ITEM, THERE WOULD BE NINE AND THEN THERE WOULD BE THE DEMOLITION THAT WOULD OCCUR AT A LATER DATE AS WELL. AND THAT IS GONNA COME FROM THIS, UH, CORRECT. OKAY. SO YOU MENTIONED ABOUT FLEET SERVICES, AND I KNOW THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION AND IT WAS KIND OF PUT ON HOLD. IS THERE AN INTENTION? IT WAS DURING FINANCE, I BELIEVE. UM, AND I BELIEVE THE FORMER COUNCILWOMAN FROM THAT AREA WANTED IT TO BE A PARK. UH, THERE WAS SOME CONVERSATION. WHAT IS THE IDEA MOVING FORWARD WITH THIS? WE'RE GONNA VACATE THESE PEOPLE OUT OF THEIR HOMES AND THEN WE'RE GONNA BUILD SOMETHING ELSE FOR FLEET SERVICES? NO, THAT WOULD BE CITY SERVICE. SO CITY SERVICE CENTER. SO, OKAY. A ISN'T THIS IN A FLOOD PLAIN? I'M SORRY. ISN'T THIS IN A FLOOD PLAIN? I DON'T BELIEVE THIS PORTION WE WOULD NEED DWU TO BE, UH, BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WAS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE WERE BUYING 'EM OUT IS BECAUSE THEY WERE IN A FLOOD PLAIN. CORRECT. BECAUSE THERE WAS PREVIOUS BONDS FOR A, IN THE TRINITY PACKAGE FOR THIS. BUT I BELIEVE EITHER THEY HAVE REMEDIATED THAT OR THESE PORTIONS. BUT AGAIN, DWU WOULD NEED TO PROVIDE THAT INFORMATION FOR YOU. I'M SORRY, I DON'T HAVE THAT. AND SO, UM, HOW, AND THESE ARE TO LEGITIMATE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY VA ANY, UM, IMMINENT DOMAINING OR IS IT TO TRULY HAVE WE GOT A DEAL WITH THE BLAND OWNER TO PURCHASE IT FOR THESE PROPERTIES? ON THIS ITEM TODAY? WE HAVE A DEAL. THERE WILL BE SOME IMMINENT DOMAIN THAT'S REQUIRED IN THE FUTURE THAT WILL COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR A DECISION. AND SO THE, THERE'S FIVE TOTAL PARCELS TWO IN THIS ITEM? YES, MA'AM. AND SO DO YOU KNOW WHICH ONES ARE IMMINENT? THAT WE HAVE TWO IMMINENT DOMAIN. NONE OF THESE ITEMS IN THIS? NONE OF THESE TWO, BUT THIS, NO, GO AHEAD. ACTUALLY. GOOD MORNING. ASHLEY EUBANK. HI ASHLEY. MS. BLACKMAN, UM, OUT OF THIS ITEM THERE MAY BE THREE ACTUAL THREE PARCELS THAT MAY NEED TO COME BACK FOR ED. UM, AS FAR TO AS PART OF OUR POLICY, WE COME BACK WITH ONE ACTION TO DO THE ACQUISITION, AND THEN IF THERE'S A NEED FOR ED, WE'LL COME BACK WITH A SECOND ACTION. OKAY. SO IT, IT'S APPROPRIATE THE MONEY THEN [00:55:01] COME BACK FOR E FOR IMMINENT DOMAIN AND THEN EXECUTE, I GUESS THE ACTION? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. AND I GUESS, AND SO WE STILL HAVE 10 MILLION LEFT, SO WE'LL HAVE ABOUT 9 MILLION LEFT. IS THERE ANY MORE PARCELS THAT WILL NEED TO BE, UM, ACQUIRED? THERE ARE A TOTAL OF NINE PARCELS THAT REMAIN NINE AFTER THIS FIVE? YES MA'AM. OKAY, SO THEN THAT MEANS THERE'S 14 IN ALL AT THIS MOMENT, CORRECT? 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T, CORRECT. OKAY. AND, AND IT'S ALL TO THEN LOOK AT BUILDING NEW, A NEW FACILITY IN THIS LOCATION. AND SO WE'RE SCRAPPING THE WHOLE, UM, SO THIS WOULD BE TO COMPLETE THE ASSEMBLAGE WITH THE IDEA THAT THE VOTERS APPROVED IT FOR A FUTURE CITY SERVICE CENTER FOR MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE. OKAY. SO THAT IS THE INTENT. YES. AND YET, BUT WE HAVEN'T DECIDED IF THAT'S WHERE WE'RE GOING. UH, EVEN THOUGH THE VOTERS HAVE GIVEN US THE NOD FOR MONEY IN 2006, WE AS A COLLECTIVE UNIT HAVE NOT DECIDED THAT THAT IS THE DIRECTION IN WHICH WE ARE GOING. WELL, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP OR DESIGN A FACILITY IF WE DON'T OWN THE DIRT THAT WE WOULD BE BUILDING ON. SO THE FIRST STEP IS TO COMPLETE THIS ASSEMBLAGE SO THAT WE HAVE ALL THE PARCELS. SO WHAT HAPPENS IF WE DECIDE NOT TO DO? WE JUST OWN THE LAND AND JUST MAINTAIN IT. WE WOULD THEN NEED TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE'RE GONNA DO IF IT'S NOT GONNA BE USED FOR THAT, YOU WOULD HAVE TO DEFEASE THE BONDS BACK WITH WHATEVER THE SELL OF THE PROPERTY WAS, OR IT WOULD NEED TO BE USED FOR THE INSTATED PURPOSE. OKAY. 'CAUSE I MEAN, I DO KNOW THAT SOME OF THIS LOCATION IS IN A FLOODPLAIN. SOME OF IT'S BEEN ALLOCATED TO A PARK. SO I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND THE WHOLE LANDSCAPE OF THIS AREA. MM-HMM. BECAUSE, UM, I REM I REMEMBER THERE WAS LIKE THREE BONDS FOR THIS AREA WITH THE TRINITY RIVER. AND SO, AND IT WAS, THE WHOLE INTENT WAS TO BE A POLICE ACADEMY AND MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF IT TO BUILD IT UP INTO A POLICE ACADEMY. SO WE'VE ABANDONED THAT AND NOW IT'S LOOKING TO BE A, IN ONE OF THE PROPOSITIONS IN JUST TO BE A FLEET SUR IS TO BE A CITY, CITY SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE CENTER. OKAY. SO BE AND SO WOULD IT, UM, AND SO WE DON'T KNOW WHAT SERVICE CENTERS WOULD BE RELOCATED FROM THERE UNTIL WE GET THE LAND AND THEN START PLANNING FOR IT. WELL, IT'S BEEN ENVISIONED THAT IT WOULD BE A REPLACEMENT FOR THE CANTON SERVICE CENTER. HAS THAT BEEN BRIEFED TO ANYBODY? IT'S BEEN BRIEFED SEVERAL TIMES. SO IF I GET SEVEN TIMES, I KNOW. AND, BUT IT WAS NOT, BUT I THOUGHT WE HAD PUT IT ON PAUSE BECAUSE THE COUNCILWOMAN FROM THAT AREA WAS NOT, UM, MS. ARNOLD WAS NOT, UH, TO IT WAS, HAD SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT IT BECAUSE I REMEMBER IT CAME THROUGH FINANCE AND I THOUGHT IT WAS KIND OF LIKE IT WASN'T. NO, BUT IT WAS LIKE WE NEEDED TO MASSAGE IT MORE. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE QUESTIONS ON COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN AND THANK YOU TO THE TEAM, UM, FOR THE RESPONSES THAT THEY HAVE GIVEN, UH, TO THIS POINT. SO WE'VE HAD SEVERAL CONVERSATIONS, UM, UM, THROUGHOUT THE LAST COUPLE YEARS THAT I'M AWARE OF SINCE I'VE BEEN IN THIS ROLE ABOUT THE WHOLE FUTURE OF CADILLAC HEIGHTS. WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY, UH, WITH UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON. WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT WAYS TO ACTIVATE THE, THE DEVELOPABLE PARTS OF CADILLAC HEIGHTS. AND WE'VE HAD SOME COMMUNITY MEETINGS. AND SO A LOT OF WHAT MR. UM JOHNSON IS REFERRING TO IS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT WITH THE COMMUNITY, UH, RELATED TO SERVICE CENTER COMPONENTS. WHETHER IT'S AN ADDITIONAL OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE A STOREFRONT THAT SUPPORTS PUBLIC SAFETY. UH, SOME OF THE COMPONENTS AROUND FUNCTIONS THAT ARE CURRENTLY AT THE CANTON STREET LOCATION. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WE HAVE TO EVENTUALLY MONETIZE, UH, THE SERVICE CENTER DOWN THE STREET. SO THIS IS ALL PART OF THE PLANNING AND WE WILL CONTINUE TO BRIEF AND UPDATE THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THE PLANS OVERALL. BUT THERE'S A COMMUNITY WORK, UH, AND ENGAGEMENT THAT'S CURRENTLY HAPPENING THAT WE KNOW THAT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON IS WORKING WITH US ON. SO I DO REMEMBER THE CONVERSATIONS THAT YOU ALSO REMEMBER WITH THE FORMER COUNCIL MEMBER. RIGHT. BUT WE ARE WORKING VERY CLOSELY WITH DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON. AND SO I GUESS, WOULD YOU BRING THE WHOLE VISIONING OF THAT AREA TO THE FULL COUNCIL TO ABSOLUTELY FINISH, TO FINISH ACQUIRING THE NINE OTHER PARCELS AND UNDERSTANDING? 'CAUSE I THINK IT WAS MORE ABOUT THE TRUCKS COMING INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WAS A CONCERN. AND ABOUT, AND YOU SAID YOU'VE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS. ABOUT HOW MANY HAVE YOU HAD? I CAN'T REMEMBER THE NUMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD. WE HAVE A LOT OF MEETINGS, UH, BUT I CAN PROVIDE YOU THE SUMMARY OF THE MEETINGS THAT WE'VE HAD. UM, OUTSIDE OF THE CURRENT CONVERSATION. UH, I DO KNOW THAT DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON HAS ASKED FOR US TO CONTINUE TO EVEN LOOK AT THE PLANS AROUND THE PARK. AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I KNOW THAT THE PARK AND RECREATION DEPARTMENT THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING TO BE A PART OF AS WELL. SO THERE'S MULTIPLE PIECES. UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHAT'S IN THE FLOODPLAIN, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE MADE SURE IS THAT IN THE PARCELS THAT WE'RE STILL ACQUIRING, THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHICH OF THOSE WOULD GO INTO THE DEVELOPABLE PARTS FOR THE SERVICE CENTER AND WHICH ONES CANNOT. SO I KNOW SARAH STANDFORD IS [01:00:01] HERE, SO I'M GONNA ASK HER TO COME OUT AND TALK ABOUT THE FLOOD PAIN, FLOOD PLAIN PIECES THAT I KNOW ARE ALSO A PART OF THIS EQUATION. GOOD MORNING. SARAH STANDFORD, ALICE WATER UTILITIES. UM, WITH RESPECT TO CADILLAC HEIGHTS, WE'VE HAD CONVERSATIONS FOR SEVERAL DECADES. UM, THERE ARE TWO BIG INITIATIVES THAT ARE ONGOING RIGHT NOW. SO WE CONTINUE TO ACQUIRE THE LAND THAT WILL FACILITATE THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS LEVEE UNDER THE DALLAS FLOODWAY EXTENSION PROJECT. WHEN THAT LEVEE'S IN PLACE, THERE WILL BE NO FLOODPLAIN LAND THAT'S ASSOCIATED WITH CADILLAC HEIGHTS. THERE WILL JUST BE SOME AREAS RIGHT BEHIND THE LEVEES, LIKE ARE CONSISTENT. TODAY, WHAT HAS OCCURRED THOUGH IS AS PART OF THE UPPER CHAIN OF WETLANDS PROJECT, THAT ACTUALLY REDUCED THE FLOODING BY ABOUT FOUR FEET. OKAY. IT SHRUNK WHAT THE ORIGINAL FLOOD PLAIN LOOKED LIKE. MM-HMM . TOOK IT ABOUT IN HALF AS WE'VE WORKED WITH EVERYBODY TO KIND OF PLACE WHAT COULD BE THERE, WHAT COULD GO IN NOW, WHAT COULD GO IN LATER. THOSE CONTINUE TO BE COORDINATED EFFORTS. SO IT IS A MUCH SMALLER FLOODPLAIN TODAY THAN IT WAS TWO DECADES AGO. IT'LL BE A SMALLER ONE ONCE THE COURT COMPLETES THEIR CONSTRUCTION. THEY'RE CURRENTLY SCHEDULED AROUND 20 31, 20 32 TO HAVE THAT CONSTRUCTION COMPLETE. OKAY. AND THEN WITH THE REMAINING 9 MILLION, UM, WHAT WOULD, IT'S JUST LAND ACQUISITION, IS THAT CORRECT? YES, IT'S ACQUISITION AND I DO BELIEVE THAT, SO THE BUILDING WILL BE USED, I THINK THERE'S A DEMOLITION COMPONENT AS WELL. OKAY. THAT WE HAVE INCLUDED IN THAT AMOUNT, UM, THAT IS REMAINING. AND ONE OF THE COMMITMENTS THAT WE DID MAKE, AND IT WAS DURING THE TIME THAT I KNOW ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER, FORMER ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER GIBSON, WAS HERE, IS THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE, UM, TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION OF ACQUIRING WHAT WE STILL NEED AND THAT WE WOULD CONTINUE TO PROVIDE THOSE UPDATES, UM, TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL. SO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT WILL IT COME BACK TO THE COUNCIL? YES. AND WHEN WE COME BACK, WE WILL BE ABLE TO LAY OUT THE FULL PLAN NOW THAT WE'VE GOTTEN ALL THE PARCELS COMBINED TO WHERE WE CAN NOW DEVELOP, UH, THE SERVICE CENTER ON THIS SITE. AND DO Y'ALL HAVE A TIMELINE OF WHEN THE NEXT ROUND OF NINE PARCELS WILL BE ACQUIRED? MS. BLACKMAN, OUR INTENT IS TO COME BACK WITHIN THE NEXT COUPLE OF MONTHS TO COMPLETE THE ACQUISITION PROCESS. PROCESS ON THE REST OF THEM. YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. AND I, AND I WOULD COMMIT, UM, COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN THAT WHEN WE BRING THAT BACK, WE WILL ALSO COME AND THEN GIVE AN UPDATE TO KINDA GIVE YOU THE FULL PICTURE OF WHAT ALL WE'VE DONE SINCE THE LAST BRIEFING THAT WE HAD. I THINK IT WAS THE END OF 2025. WILL IT BE TO FULL COUNSEL OR JUST TO A COMMITTEE? I WILL DEFER TO THE, THE PLEASURE OF THIS BODY. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE A, AS A FULL COUNSEL BRIEFING, BUT I'M HAPPY TO GO TO A COMMITTEE MEETING AS WELL. THANK YOU. I RECEIVE IT. THANK YOU. MS. MENDELSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR, I'M SORRY. UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I WANNA THANK MY COLLEAGUES FOR DISCUSSING THIS MATTER. UM, WE HAVE BEEN HAVING COUNTLESS OF MEETINGS CONCERNING THIS, UH, PROPERTY OVER AT CADILLAC HEIGHTS. IT'S BEEN, UM, VERY, UH, INTIMATE CONVERSATION WITH OUR CEDAR CREST COMMUNITY. UH, A LOT OF CONVERSATION, A LOT OF MEETINGS THAT I'VE HAD SINCE I'VE BEEN, UH, ON THE COUNCIL, UH, CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR PROPERTY. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN I FIRST GOT ELECTED, I DON'T KNOW IF THE CITY MANAGER, UH, CAN REMEMBER THAT WAS THE FIRST THING I CAME IN TALKING ABOUT WAS CADILLAC HEIGHTS. AND, UH, THE VISION THAT I HAD FOR CADILLAC HEIGHTS CONCERNING, UM, WHAT THE COMMUNITY HAS BEEN SAYING. KNOWING, UH, WHEN WE TALKING ABOUT THE POLICE ACADEMY AND THINGS THAT WAS PROMISED YEARS AGO, UH, WHEN, WHEN I WAS EVEN PROBABLY A TEENAGER, UM, GETTING HIS STUFF TOGETHER AND TALKING ABOUT IT. SO, UM, I DID, I THINK I HEARD MR. JOHN, UH, SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE, THE CANTON PROPERTIES THAT'S GOING OVER THERE. I KNOW WE WAS TALKING ABOUT THOSE ITEMS AS WELL AS MAKING SURE THE COMMUNITY DID NOT WANT THE SANITARY, UH, THE TRUCKS THERE. UH, HOWEVER THEY WAS OKAY WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. SO I KNOW THIS IS A, BEEN A WORK IN PROGRESS IS IF, IF JOHN IS THERE, CAN, UH, CAN YOU GIVE US A, GIVE ME A UPDATE ON WHERE WE ARE WITH THIS? UH, I KNOW WE HAD A BRIEF CONVERSATION, BUT AGAIN, COUNTLESS OF MEETINGS, UH, SINCE I'VE BEEN ON THE COUNCIL. SO WHERE WE ARE NOW WITH, UH, THOSE, UH, OTHER AMENITIES AND I, AND I, I, FORMER MAYOR PROTE, UH, COUNCILMAN MORENO AS WELL, WE'VE BEEN WORKING TOGETHER SINCE I CAME INTO THE CITY CONCERNING THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. 'CAUSE I KNOW THOSE, I, THOSE, UH, UM, CODE AND ALL, ALL ALL THOSE CITY UH, OFFICES IS ALSO IN HIS DISTRICT AS WELL. SO THIS HAS BEEN A, A COLLABORATION, NOT JUST SOME, NOT, NOT JUST ME WORKING IN SILOS, BUT DEFINITELY A CAPITAL COLLABORATION WORKING WITH THE CITY, UH, ADMINISTRATION. AND OUR COUNCIL MEMBER CAN'T WHERE, WHERE WE ARE WITH THAT, SIR. SO, YES, YOU ARE CORRECT, SIR. UH, WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH YOUR OFFICE AND A NUMBER OF COUNCIL MEMBERS. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S A SPECIFIC DECISION THAT HAS BEEN MADE TO WHICH SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT [01:05:01] OR SERVICES WOULD BE RELOCATED OTHER THAN IT WOULD JUST BE USED FOR A MAINTENANCE AND SERVICE FACILITY. AND THOSE DECISIONS WOULD BE BROUGHT BACK TO THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE FOR, UH, THEIR OPINION AND THEN BE BROUGHT BACK TO THIS BODY FOR THEIR ULTIMATE APPROVAL. AND THEN BEFORE ANYTHING COULD HAPPEN, IT WOULD NEED TO GO TO THE VOTER SO THAT THEY COULD APPROVE THE FUNDING THAT WOULD BE ACTUALLY BE USED TO, UH, CONSTRUCT THESE FACILITIES THAT WE ARE SPEAKING ABOUT. OKAY. THANK YOU SO MUCH. UM, AND I, AND I KNOW IN, IN, AGAIN, WE'VE HAD COUNTLESS COMMUNICATION, COUNTLESS OF MEETINGS WITH, UH, THE PARKS DEPARTMENT, MR. JOHN JENKINS, UH, WITH THE CITY MANAGER AS WELL, AND THERE YOURSELF. UM, THIS, THERE'S, THERE'S A MAJOR DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO RIGHT IN THAT PARTICULAR AREA, ALL THE WAY DOWN CEDAR CREEK AND CATHOLIC HEIGHTS IS VERY IMPORTANT, UH, TO OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE WORKING ON NOW TRYING TO GET A MASTER PLAN TOGETHER AND BRINGING THE COMMUNITY TOGETHER SO WE KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE WE'RE GONNA BE TRYING TO GET, AND HAVING COMPLETE COMMUNICATION WITH OUR COMMUNITY. I DON'T DO ANYTHING WITHOUT, UH, SPEAK WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT MAJOR PROJECTS OR PROJECTS, UH, THAT'S GOING ON IN DISTRICT FOUR. UH, WHEN WE TALK ABOUT BUILDING A COMMUNITY WITH THE COMMUNITY, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I REALLY BELIEVE IN, AND THAT'S WHY THIS CONVERSATION TODAY, UH, IS VERY IMPORTANT. AND AGAIN, I WANNA APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES FOR HAVING THIS CONVERSATION. UH, SO WE CAN HEAR, UH, WHAT'S GOING ON. BUT THIS IS GOING TO BE VERY IMPORTANT, UH, DEVELOPMENT PROJECT, UH, THAT'S GOING ON. THAT'S GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY DOWN TO 11TH STREET. UH, BUT IT STARTS THERE. WE HAVE MAJOR, UH, PLANS FOR THAT, THAT THE COMMUNITY HAS WANTED. I KNOW THIS IS GONNA BE A PROCESS, BUT WE'RE TRYING TO GET THIS TAKEN CARE OF BECAUSE PROMISES THAT WAS, UH, MADE WASN'T KEPT YEARS AGO. AND SO IT HAS FELL INTO MY LEFT SOME THAT THE CITY MANAGER SAID, IT MAY NOT BEEN MY FAULT, BUT IT BECOMES MY RESPONSIBILITY. AND SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY, WORKING WITH, UH, OUR ADMINISTRATION AND THAT WE, THAT WE ARE DOING. I ALSO WANNA APPRECIATE COUNCILMAN JESSE MORENO. UH, AGAIN, SINCE I'VE BEEN IN COUNCIL, UH, THAT'S ONE OF THE FIRST CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH HIM. HE'S BEEN A, UH, A BIG SUPPORT, UH, IN HELPING ME NAVIGATE THROUGH SOME OF THE TURBULENCE THAT WE'VE, THAT I'VE HAD, UH, CONCERNING THIS MATTER. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND I LOOK FORWARD, UH, TO SEEING THIS PROJECT THROUGH AND WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITY AS WE GET WHAT WAS DUE TO OUR COMMUNITY, WHICH IS GONNA BE A WONDERFUL, UH, AT THE END OF THE DAY, A WONDERFUL MAJOR PROJECT, NOT JUST FOR DISTRICT FOUR, BUT THE CITY OF DALLAS AS A WHOLE. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY MANAGER FOR ALL YOU, YOU DOING, UH, CONCERNING THIS PROJECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MR. MAYOR. MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. ITEM 26. UH, THANK YOU. UM, I WANT TO THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON FOR BRINGING THIS, UH, TO THE FOREFRONT. UM, I'M, I'M NEW TO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT AND HAD SOME QUESTIONS JUST ON THE LI ON THE DETAILS OF IT. THE NINE ADDITIONAL PARCELS THAT NEED TO BE ACQUIRED, IS THAT JUST LAND OR ARE THERE, ARE THERE HOMES ON THAT ALSO? IT'S A COMBINATION OF BOTH MS. MR. ROTH. AND SO, UM, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, AND ARE THEY BASICALLY SINGLE FAMILY LOTS AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES? YES, SIR. SO THOSE, THAT NINE, DOES THE 9 MILLION OR $10 MILLION TOTAL INCLUDE JUST ACQUISITION COSTS, OR DOES THAT ALSO INCLUDE DEVELOPMENT COSTS OF WHATEVER FACILITY THAT YOU'RE GOING TO, TO TRY TO PUT IN ON THERE? SURE. AS JOHN PREVIOUSLY MENTIONED, IT'S FOR ACQUISITION, THE DEMOLITION, UM, FOR THESE PARCELS AND FOR WHAT? DEMOLITION FOR THESE PARCELS, NOT DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO I'M, I'M A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT THE DOLLARS. IT SEEMS LIKE $10 MILLION FOR, UM, UH, FOR EACH OF THESE LOTS WOULD BE ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS LEFT FOR EACH LAWN. SEEMS A LITTLE BIT, UH, EXPENSIVE TO ME, BUT I DON'T KNOW THE DETAILS ABOUT THE, THE TYPE OF, OF IN QUALITY OF THE LAND AND THE BUILDINGS ON THERE. UH, CAN YOU SORT OF, IS, IS THAT NUMBER, WAS THAT, IS THAT NUMBER SORT OF PLANNED? WAS IT SORT OF AN ANTICIPATED? SO THAT WAS WHAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE 2006 BOND FUND FOR THE ACQUISITION AND DEMOLITION. BUT THAT IS LIKELY, WE WILL NOT SPEND NEAR THAT FOR THE REMAINING NINE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THESE FIVE PARCELS HERE TOGETHER, TOTAL $800,000, INCLUDING CLOSING COSTS. THAT WAS MY, THAT WAS MY POINT, IS THAT IF WE WERE BUYING FIVE FOR 800, RIGHT. THE OTHER, THE OTHER NINE SHOULDN'T BE 9 MILLION. WE WOULD ONLY USE WHAT WE WOULD NEED. YES, SIR. OKAY. AND, AND THEN THE SECOND THING IS, UM, IS THE, UM, SINCE THE USE IS REALLY NOT DEFINED YET, UH, IS THERE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SORT OF REVERSE THE PROCESS TO SOME EXTENT, UH, TO BASICALLY TIE UP THESE, THESE FIVE PROPERTIES, UH, AND THEN ALLOW YOU TO TRY TO TIE UP THE OTHER NINE AND THEN BRING THE WHOLE PACKAGE TO US AS A, AS A COMPLETE PACKAGE OF, OF 14 PROPERTIES? IF YOU [01:10:01] FEEL LIKE IT'S GONNA HAPPEN WITHIN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, AND THEN YOU'VE, THEN AT THAT POINT, YOU COULD, YOU KNOW THAT YOU'VE GOT THE PROPERTIES TOGETHER. IF YOU ONLY END UP WITH FIVE, YOU'RE GOING TO END UP WITH AND, AND HAVE DIFFICULTY GETTING THE REST, ARE YOU GONNA BE ABLE TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL, UM, DEVELOPMENT OF WHATEVER YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT THERE? SO THE USE HAS BEEN DEFINED, AND THAT WAS WHAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS FOR CITY SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITIES. SO THAT'S WHAT WE ARE ACQUIRING THESE UNDER FOR A FUTURE USE. UH, WE WOULDN'T BE ABLE TO USE THESE FUNDS IF THAT WERE NOT. SO, UH, AND THEN AS MS. EUBANKS MENTIONED, THERE MAY BE SOME REMAINING PARCELS THAT WILL COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR USE OF IMMINENT DOMAIN TO COMPLETE THE REMAINING PIECES THAT ARE NEEDED FOR THE ENTIRE ASSEMBLAGE. UM, AND IS THERE, AND AGAIN, I, IS THERE A, AN OPPORTUNITY TO REPURPOSE THESE BOND FUNDS IF THEY WERE ORIGINALLY FOR A POLICE ACADEMY? IS THERE NOT, IS IT PROPER OR ALLOWABLE TO USE THESE FUNDS TOWARDS THE POLICE ACADEMY DEVELOPMENT THAT WE ARE, UH, GOING FORWARD WITH DOWN BY UNT? NO, IT WOULD ONLY BE FOR THE ACQUISITION AND DEMOLITION OF THE PARCELS IN THIS PROPERTY. IT COULD NOT BE USED IN A DIFFERENT AREA OR FOR A DIFFERENT PROJECT. MR. MAYOR, UH, MR. ROTH, I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I MENTIONED THIS BECAUSE I DON'T WANT IT TO BE PERCEIVED THAT'S STAFF CHANGE, THE USE OF THE FUNDS. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. THIS WAS A DECISION OF THE COUNCIL AND WHAT STAFF IS DOING NOW IS FOLLOWING WHAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED FOR US TO DO. WE'RE MOVING THAT FORWARD. SO STAFF DID NOT CHANGE AND MAKE AN, A DECISION ON OUR OWN TO REDIRECT AND LOOK AT THIS ONLY BEING A SERVICE CENTER THAT WAS AT THE DIRECTION OF THIS BODY. I APPRECIATE THE CLARIFICATION. YEAH, NO, MY, MY INTEREST WAS NOT, UH, TO FIGURE OUT WHAT HAPPENED. MY INTEREST WAS TO SEE IF THOSE FUNDS COULD BE REALLOCATED TO A PROJECT THAT WE ALREADY HAVE IN THE GROUND AND, AND THAT'S MOVING FORWARD AND, AND IS ALREADY, UH, NEED SOME ADDITIONAL FUNDS. SO I APPRECIATE THE, UH, CLARIFICATION ON THE FLOOD, THE FLOOD ZONE. DOES THIS, UH, THE IMMINENT DOMAIN, UH, WOULD THAT BE PART OF THE FLOOD ZONE ISSUE TOO? I'M NOT, IS THERE FLOOD ZONE PROPERTY? IS SOME OF THIS PROPERTY IN A FLOOD ZONE? YES. AND I THINK THAT'S WHERE SARAH COULD PROBABLY DO A BETTER JOB. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. UH, YES, SIR. SARAH, STAND IT FIRST. SO, WITH RESPECT TO CADILLAC HEIGHTS AND THE RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES, MANY OF THE PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE ACQUIRED ALREADY, AND PERHAPS A FEW OF THESE STILL RESIDE WITHIN THE FLOOD PLAIN. THAT WASN'T THE PURPOSE OF THE ACQUISITION, THOUGH. UM, THE PURPOSE OF THIS ACQUISITION WAS LAID OUT IN THOSE BOND PROPOSITIONS FOR A FUTURE SERVICE FACILITY AND OR POLICE FACILITY RELATED ACTIVITY. UM, THE OTHER PART OF THE PROJECT THAT YOU SEE COME FORWARD ON ACQUISITIONS IS RELATED TO DALLAS FEDERAL EXTENSION, WHICH IS SPECIFIC TO BUILDING A LEVY. UM, SO YOU'RE SEEING TWO DIFFERENT, TWO DIFFERENT AVENUES OF ACQUISITION WITHIN THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS AREA. OKAY. THANK YOU. MS. CENA. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON ITEM 26? UM, I DO RECALL THE, UM, LEVEE, I WAS AT THE RIBBON CUTTING WHEN, UM, THAT HAPPENED. UM, BUT I DON'T, I I DON'T RECALL THE CANTON, UM, AND THE ACQUISITION OF THESE PROPERTIES. SO I HAVE A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. UM, DO PE, WERE PEOPLE LIVING IN THESE HOMES AND DID THEY AGREE TO SELL GOOD MORNING. UM, THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THERE ARE THREE IMPROVED OCCUPIED DWELLINGS, AND THEN THERE ARE TWO VACANT. UM, CURRENTLY WE DO HAVE DEALS ON THREE, ONE IMPROVED AND TWO VACANT, AND THEN THE OTHER TWO, UM, ARE NOT, UM, WE'RE, WE'RE STILL WORKING THROUGH. OKAY. SO THE, AND THEN THE OTHER ONES ARE THE ONES THAT YOU SAID YOU MAY NEED TO DO EMINENT DOMAIN. IT'S A POSSIBILITY. AND PEOPLE ARE LIVING IN THOSE HOMES. CORRECT. OKAY. THANK YOU MS. MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WELL, FIRST I WANNA SAY THANK YOU TO THE ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY FOR SAYING ON THE RECORD THAT THE QUOTE, THE CITY COUNCIL REPURPOSED THE BOND FUNDS ACCURATE STATEMENT. AND I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT OUT LOUD. SECOND, I WANNA MAKE SURE THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM RECOGNIZES THAT WHILE ALL THIS CONVERSATION SEEMS TO BE FOCUSED ON DISTRICT FOUR, DISTRICT TWO IS SITTING OVER THERE, VERY EAGER TO GET RID OF THIS DEVELOPMENT, PLEASE FIND OUT WHY THEY WANNA GET RID OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THERE'S A LOT OF REASONS. WHAT'S INCLUDED THERE, BY THE WAY, INCLUDES OUR BACKUP 9 1 1 CENTER. [01:15:01] WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO REBUILD AN ENTIRE BACKUP 9 1 1 CENTER, OUR RADIO ROOM. EVERYTHING WOULD HAVE TO BE DONE WITH THAT. THAT'S THE HEADQUARTERS FOR CODE COMPLIANCE, THE SANITATION HEADQUARTERS, EQUIPMENT AND FLEET. IS THERE FIRE PREVENTION FOR DFR? IS THERE, CITY MARSHAL'S OFFICE IS THERE, PARKING ENFORCEMENT IS THERE, THERE'S SOME TRANSPORTATION FUNCTIONS. I THINK IT'S LIKE THE, THE STREET STRIPING AREA. THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS THERE. THAT SANITATION PORTION. THERE'S A LOT OF TRUCKS COMING AND GOING. AND ONE OF THE THINGS WE TALKED ABOUT AS THIS IDEA HAS BEEN FLOATED, BUT NEVER FULLY BRIEFED ON WHAT IT IS AND WHAT IT WOULD BE, YET, WE'RE COMMITTING ALL THESE FUNDS TO PURCHASING LAND WITH NO ACTUAL PLAN OF WHAT'S COMING OR WHAT THE COST COULD EVEN POTENTIALLY BE. CAN YOU IMAGINE? WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO THE VOTERS AND IT WON'T BE US. IT'LL BE THE NEXT COUNCIL AND SAY, WE'RE GONNA NEED TO DO A BOND TO REBUILD ALL OF THE THINGS THAT, OH, WE ALREADY HAVE. 'CAUSE WE WANNA MOVE THEM OUT OF DEEP EL TO REDEVELOP IT. AND SO WHAT YOU HAVE IS A CITY THAT HAS A MINDSET OF TAKING PERFECTLY GOOD BUILDINGS AND TEARING THEM DOWN AND MOVING THEM SOMEWHERE ELSE IN THE NAME OF DEVELOPMENT. AND THE TAXPAYERS BOUGHT AND BUILT THE CANTON CENTER. IT'S NOT CLASS A PROPERTY, BUT IT'S PERFECTLY SUITABLE. I'VE BEEN IN MANY OF THOSE BUILDINGS. IT LOOKS LIKE A GOVERNMENT BUILDING. IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE FOUR SEASONS. SO I THINK THERE ARE VERY STRONG FISCAL QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS ENTIRE PLAN, BUT ACTUALLY THERE ISN'T A PLAN. SO IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT. I HAVE NEVER SEEN THIS IS WHAT THE PLAN WILL BE. I'VE SEEN A MAP THAT SHOWS ACTUALLY QUITE A BIT OF FLOODPLAIN. I'M GLAD TO HEAR IT'S CHANGED, BUT WE ACTUALLY GAVE AWAY THE BEST LAND FOR THE PARK WITH THE BEST ACCESS. SO ALL THESE TRUCKS ARE GONNA DRIVE BY THAT PARK. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS HERE, BUT MOST IMPORTANTLY, IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY. LIKE, WHERE'S THIS ALL COMING FROM? HOW'S THIS GONNA WORK? AND HOW THIS MONEY HAS BEEN REPURPOSED. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN MORENO, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES? THANK YOU, MAYOR. WELL, THESE BUILDINGS ARE DEFINITELY NOT GOOD BUILDINGS. THESE BUILDINGS, WHETHER THEY ARE MOVED TO A NEW LOCATION OR THEY STAY IN THE DEEP ELLUM AREA, NEED TO BE REBUILT. THESE BUILDINGS ARE FALLING APART. WE HAVE OUR SWAT TEAMS, WE HAVE OUR 9 1 1 CENTERS. WE HAVE OUR POLICE, UH, CENTRAL LOCATED THERE. THESE SERVICES, SANITATION, PARKING, ARE ALL, UH, EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY THAT COME IN AND OUT. AND THEY'RE ACTUALLY A BENEFIT TO THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE IN THE AREA. I WOULD GLADLY TAKE THIS IN A DIFFERENT PART OF DISTRICT TWO. UH, IT IS NOT A, UH, A NUISANCE. IT'S ACTUALLY, UH, ADDITIONAL EYES FROM CITY STAFF IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. AND, UH, THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM AND I HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. THIS IS DEFINITELY A CITYWIDE DECISION, SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO, UH, ENCOMPASS ALL COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, BUT I THINK IT STARTS WITH MAKING SURE THAT THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE GONNA BE IMPACTED ARE, ARE HAVING THOSE COMMUNITY MEETINGS THAT WE ARE, UH, WORKING WITH EACH OTHER. AND THIS IS SOMETHING THAT DEPUTY MAYOR PROTO AND I, UH, WHEN HE FIRST CAME IN, SAID, THIS IS THE, THE PROJECT THAT WE WANNA WORK ON. AND SO THESE ARE BUILDINGS THAT NEED TO BE, UH, REDEVELOPED. IT'S BEEN IDENTIFIED AS OUR NUMBER ONE, UH, SITE FOR POTENTIAL REDEVELOPMENT IN OUR FINANCE COMMITTEE. AND SO I APPRECIATE STAFF'S, UM, WILLINGNESS TO BRING THIS FORWARD. AND YES, THIS IS A MULTI-STEP PROCESS. IT'S GONNA BE A, A LONG PROCESS. UH, BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT, THAT I FULLY SUPPORT. AND I HOPE THAT WE HAVE, UH, ADDITIONAL COMMUNICATIONS ON HOW THIS IS ALL GOING TO, TO WORK OUT. BUT NONETHELESS, THESE BUILDINGS NEED TO BE REPLACED. THEY ARE, UH, BUILDINGS THAT ARE, THAT ARE, UH, ROOFS NEEDS TO BE REDONE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT ATTRACTIVE BUILDINGS. NOT THAT THEY NEED TO BE THE FOUR SEASONS, BUT OUR STAFF TO OBSERVE A BUILDING, UH, TO BE ABLE TO GO TO WORK EACH AND EVERY DAY THAT IS CONDUCIVE TO TODAY'S ENVIRONMENT. AND SO I HOPE WE ARE ABLE TO SUPPORT THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, MAYOR, CHAIRMAN, GRACE RECOGNIZ FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND I'VE, I'VE HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO SIT BACK AND, AND LISTEN. AND THE, THE FIRST THING I'VE, I'VE NOTICED AND AND HEARD IS, IS ONE, UH, BOTH, UH, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON AND AND CHAIR, UH, UH, MORENO HAVE HAVE TALKED AND DISCUSSED THIS AND, AND ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN. [01:20:01] THEN I'VE HEARD THESE, THESE, THESE ANGLES OF, OF, OF THE WHY BEHIND ALL OF IT. BUT WHAT I CAN SEE IN THIS, AND THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT, THAT I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE I CAN SEE THAT THIS IS A BENEFIT. THIS IS SOMETHING WHERE TWO DISTRICTS POTENTIALLY WE DON'T KNOW WHAT TO YOUR YOUR THAT'S TRUE, BUT THEY, THESE ARE TWO DISTRICTS THAT HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BENEFIT IN VERY DIFFERENT WAYS FROM AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PERSPECTIVE. WE SPENT ALL OF THIS TIME TALKING ABOUT THE SHORTFALLS AND HOW WE CAN CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO BRING MORE TAXES INTO THIS, UH, INTO THIS AREA DOWNTOWN. IF IT IS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT MOVE, WHAT THAT DOES IS MOVE WHAT IS NOW CURRENTLY TAX FREE LAND, MOVES IT OUT THE WAY TO CREATE SOME TYPE OF TAX GENERATING DEVELOPMENT IN AND AROUND THE AREA, WHICH CONTINUES TO CONNECT EVERYTHING THAT WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO FROM DOWNTOWN TO THE CEDARS AND DEVELOPMENT, ALL OF THAT. SO THAT IS A BENEFIT THERE OVER HERE, IF IT COMES THROUGH WITH, UH, UH, UH, DEPUTY AMERI REPORT, TIM JOHNSON'S COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO BENEFIT AND FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT WORK WITHIN THAT COMMUNITY. THEY RECEIVE THE SAFETY, THEY RECEIVE SOME ADDITIONAL PARK LAND AND THINGS LIKE THAT, WHICH WILL ALSO CONTINUE TO DRAW ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IN A VERY DIFFERENT WAY IN THIS DISTRICT. SO REGARDLESS OF THE UNDERLYING TONES, UH, AND BY THE WAY, WHAT WE'VE ALL BEEN SAYING, PUBLIC SAFETY, ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES, WHOM WE SAY WE CARE ABOUT, THEY WILL ALL GET POTENTIALLY NEW, UH, AREAS, NEW, NEW THINGS TO WORK IN. WE HAVE A VERY OLD INFRASTRUCTURE FROM CITY HALL TO ALL OF OUR EXISTING FACILITIES. WE TALK ABOUT THESE INDIVIDUALLY, BUT THEY'RE ALL OLD. AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO UPGRADE SOME OF THEIR WORKING CONDITIONS AS WELL. SO THERE ARE TOO MANY LAYERS OF BENEFIT NOT TO SUPPORT THIS. SO, UH, THANK YOU ALL FOR THE CONVERSATIONS AND YOUR PERSPECTIVES, BUT I REALLY DO SEE TOO MANY LAYERS OF BENEFITS TO BE HAVING THIS LONG OF A DISCUSSION OVER THIS ITEM. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN WEST, RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I THINK THAT WE'VE HAD A GREAT DISCUSSION FROM BOTH SIDES OF THIS. UH, I DON'T THINK TODAY WE HAVE TO MAKE THE FINAL DECISION ON IF THE THE FACILITY'S GONNA MOVE OR NOT. THE, THE BEGINNING OF THE ACQUISITION OF THE LOTS AT CADILLAC HEIGHTS, I THINK HAS BEEN GOING ON FOR DECADES, LONGER THAN MY TIME HERE. LONGER THAN MINE AS WELL. WOW. OKAY. SO NOW I'VE SEEN THE MAP. LAST TIME WE TALKED ABOUT THIS, I FEEL LIKE WE WENT THROUGH THIS DISCUSSION, A SIMILAR ONE. AND IT IS A MASSIVE AREA WITH A FEW LITTLE PEPPER SPRINKLES OF WHAT WE DON'T OWN AT THIS POINT. IF WE STOP THE ACQUISITION TODAY, WE SAID, FORGET IT NO MORE. WE'RE LEFT WITH A SITE THAT YOU CAN'T DEVELOP ANYTHING ON BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT SPORADIC HOMES, UM, AROUND THE SITE. WE'VE GOTTA COMPLETE THE ACQUISITION, UM, SO THAT WE CAN EITHER PACKAGE IT AND SELL IT AND GET OUR MONEY BACK AS A CITY OR WE REDEVELOP IT INTO A FACILITY. THOSE ARE OUR TWO OPTIONS. STOPPING IT IS THE LEAST FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE OPTION THAT WE HAVE ON THE TABLE. SO I'M SUPPORTING THIS ITEM. I WILL SUPPORT THE REMAINING CADILLAC HEIGHTS ITEMS WHILE I'M ON COUNCIL. UM, OR HOPEFULLY WE FINISH IT WHILE I'M ON COUNCIL, BUT I DOUBT WE WILL, I THINK IT'S GONNA CONTINUE INTO YEARS IN THE FUTURE. THANK YOU. I'M GONNA GO TO THE DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THERE'S A NARRATIVE AND NOTION OUT HERE THAT I HEAR FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT IT'S OKAY FOR OUR STAFF TO WORK IN SUBPART BUILDINGS AND MAKE STATEMENTS LIKE FOUR SEASONS. UH, WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR, OUR STAFF IS WORKING IN ADEQUATE AND QUALITY BUILDINGS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE. THIS HAS BEEN A CONVERSATION THAT WE'VE HAD FOR OVER A YEAR IN OUR COMMUNITY, DECADES. AND WHEN I CAME ON THE COUNCIL, UH, THIS IS AGAIN, MY, ONE OF MY PRIORITIES BECAUSE I WAS SENT TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER AND TO PUSH THIS FOR OUR COMMUNITY. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, UH, CITY SERVICES, POLICE, SUBSTATIONS, CODE OFFICES, UH, THAT, THAT MY COMMUNITY WHEN HAVE BEEN MEETING ABOUT, AND THEY'RE IN SUPPORT OF THIS. THEY DIDN'T WANT THE SANITATION TRUCK. SO WE'RE KNOW, I KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. SO TO MAKE A STATEMENT, LIKE, LET'S FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN DISTRICT TWO, WHY HE'S SO EAGER. UH, IT'S NOT HIM BEING EAGER. I CAME TO HIM AND ASKED HIM FOR HIS SUPPORT AND HOW DID HE FEEL ABOUT THIS? I WENT TO THE CITY MANAGER AND ASKING THEM HOW DID THEY FEEL ABOUT THIS? AND THE PROMISES THAT WE MADE TO OUR COMMUNITY. AND SO I'M VERY, UH, KNOWLEDGEABLE OF WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I DON'T, I DON'T GET CAUGHT, I DON'T GET CAUGHT OFF GUARD. UH, WHEN IT COMES TO DISTRICT FOUR, I RE, I, I'M, WE VERY WELL READ AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT'S GOING ON. AND SO TO, TO MAKE THAT THAT COMMENT, UH, I JUST WANT TO CLEAR THAT UP FOR OUR COMMUNITY, BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, NOT JUST ME. MY COMMUNITY KNOWS WHAT'S GOING ON BECAUSE WE'RE IN CONSTANT CONVERSATION. WE HAVE AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT STEERING COMMITTEE IN DISTRICT FOUR. WE HAVE A QUALITY OF LIFE STEERING COMMITTEE IN DISTRICT FOUR, AND WE HAVE A PUBLIC SAFETY STEERING COMMITTEE IN DISTRICT FOUR OUTSIDE OF THE COMMISSIONS. SO I'M VERY INVOLVED WITH OUR COMMUNITY, AND THEY'RE VERY INVOLVED WITH EVERY PROJECT THAT'S [01:25:01] GOING ON IN DISTRICT FOUR. SO WE'RE SUPPORTING THIS. WE CANNOT GET MAJOR DEVELOPMENT IN THAT AREA WITHOUT THIS PROCESS. AND I'M, I'M GOING TO DO MY BEST TO REMAIN ON THIS COUNCIL AND CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR COMMUNITY SO WE CAN GET THE MAJOR DEVELOPMENT IN THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT DISTRICT FOUR IS IN NEED OF. WE'RE GONNA GET THIS THING DONE BECAUSE OUR COMMUNITY DESERVES IT. SO WE'RE NOT LOST. WE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON. AND I WANNA APPRECIATE COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO AND, AND THE CITY MANAGER AND HER STAFF ARE WORKING NOT JUST WITH ME, BUT WORKING WITH OUR ENTIRE COMMUNITY AND COMING INTO THESE MEETINGS AND DISCUSSING THESE MATTERS AND BEING VERY TRANSPARENT WITH OUR CEDAR CREST COMMUNITY. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. BUT WE, I APPRECIATE MY COLLEAGUES FOR THIS DISCUSSION. IT IS VERY, IT WAS VERY NEEDED, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THAT ON, ON THE RECORD. THANK YOU SO MUCH, MS. BLACKMAN. YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND, UM, WITH THIS, ARE WE GONNA BE USING CUR, UM, ANY UNUSED IT WHEN, IF IT MOVES AND WE, WE DECIDE WE WANNA BUILD, IS IT A FUTURE BOND OR WILL IT BE, UH, ANY UNUSED BOND MONEY THAT WE HAVE, OR IT DEPENDS ON HOW MUCH THE FACILITY IS. I THINK IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE FACILITY AND THE USES OF THE PREVIOUS BONDS THAT WERE USED. AND IF THE VOTERS WERE TO APPROVE SUCH, SO YOU'D PUT A PACKAGE TOGETHER, BASICALLY. I THINK WE HAVE TO. OKAY. AND I, AND MY STAFF REMEMBERED BROUGHT MEMORIES BACK. 'CAUSE I REMEMBER WE TALKED ABOUT IT IN FINANCE, AND MY HEARTBURN WAS, YET AGAIN, WE'RE GOING TO PUT A SERVICE CENTER THAT HAS BEEN DESCRIBED WITH ALL THOSE THINGS INTO THE SOUTH. AND I REMEMBERED, I REMEMBER SAYING, I DON'T WANT TO PILE ON AND KEEP PUTTING THESE TYPES OF SERVICES IN THE SOUTHERN PART OF OUR CITY, BECAUSE THAT, AND THAT WAS THE CONCERN OF THE, THE FORMER COUNCIL ONE WOMAN, WAS BECAUSE THERE WAS GONNA BE ALL THE TRUCKS, ALL THE, IT'S NOT JUST A, UH, A POLICE ACADEMY ANYMORE. IT WAS GOING TO BE A SERVICE CENTER. I GET THAT THIS, UH, LAND COULD SWAP OUT AND IT, IT MAKES BETTER SENSE. BUT AGAIN, I DON'T WANNA BE RESPONSIBLE FOR PUSHING THESE TYPES OF ITEMS THAT THE CITY IS RESPONSIBLE FOR INTO THE SOUTHERN SECTOR OF OUR CITY, BECAUSE IT'S EASY. AND I'M HOPING THAT IT WOULD BE DONE WITH SOME REALLY GOOD, ROBUST DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES. AND I THINK THAT WAS WHAT WAS DISCUSSED, UH, IN THAT MEETING, THAT IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE WE HAVE IN BONTON WHERE IT'S BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, A, A BLOCK THAT HAS A WALL AND NO IN AND OUT, AND IT'S GOT, YOU KNOW, WIRE ON IT AND LOOKING VERY, UM, UM, YOU KNOW, VERY NOT WELCOMING AND THAT WE MAKE IT AN OPPORTUNITY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THAT IT, IT BECOMES A MORE, AND I GUESS I'M KIND OF GOING OFF TOPIC BECAUSE IT'S NOT POSTED, BUT I, I DO FEEL THAT, UM, IT'S WORTH THE CONVERSATION. I JUST DON'T KNOW. UM, AND, AND IF WE'RE GOING OUT FOR MORE MONEY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE NOT JUST TWO PEOPLE HAVING THAT CONVERSATION, IT SHOULD BE ALL OF US HAVING THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE WE'RE ALL GONNA HAVE TO VOTE TO PUT IT ON A BOND PACKAGE OR CHANGE ZONING OR WHATNOT. SO I WOULD HOPE THAT YOU WOULD KEEP US, YOU KNOW, IN THE LOOP. I APPRECIATE THEM WORKING TOGETHER, BUT IT'S GONNA TAKE ALL OF US, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE THE BOND CAPACITY TO GET IT DONE AND THAT IT'S DONE RIGHT, AND THAT WE'RE NOT JUST FORCING IT INTO A COMMUNITY. AND I'M, I'M HOPING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS UNDERSTANDING WHAT IS IN THE SERVICE CENTER IN DEEP ELLUM. AND THAT COULD COME THERE. 'CAUSE I REMEMBER THAT WAS THE, THAT WAS THE KEY OF HER HEARTBURN, UM, WAS THAT IT COULD, IT WAS GONNA BE THE TRUCKS COMING THROUGH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO ACKNOWLEDGE COUNCILWOMAN BLACKMAN'S, UH, COMMENTS REGARDING THE, THE VARIOUS COMPONENTS AT THE SERVICE CENTER. THAT IS WHY WE HAVE BEEN OUT IN THAT COMMUNITY, UM, WORKING, UM, TO ENSURE THAT THERE'S NO MISINFORMATION ABOUT WHAT A SERVICE CENTER ACTUALLY ENTAILS. UH, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SEVERAL DIFFERENT OPTIONS THAT MIGHT, UM, ALLOW FOR US TO STILL HAVE QUALITY SERVICES THAT ARE CONNECTED TO, UH, THE RESIDENTS IN THAT AREA. UM, AND A WAY TO DO IT TO WHERE IT DOES BECOME AN ASSET TO THE COMMUNITY. AND SO I'M, I REMEMBER THE CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THE TRUCKS, UM, AND I THINK THAT'S THE REASON WHY DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON HAS ASKED FOR US TO BE OUT THERE. WE'VE HAD A RECENT MEETING, UM, THAT I JUST RECALLED THAT WAS ALL ABOUT THE ENVIRONMENTAL. WE TOOK OUR ENTIRE ENVIRONMENTAL DIRECTOR, UH, UH, OUR DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY. WE TOOK OUR TEAM OUT THERE BECAUSE THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE HAD ALSO ADDRESSED AROUND THE OTHER ENVIRONMENTAL CONCERNS AROUND THE AREA. AND SO OUR COMMITMENT IS WE WILL BE MAKING SURE THAT THE FULL COUNCIL IS ABREAST. I'M GOING TO SEND BACK THE MEMO THAT WE HAD OUT RECENTLY ABOUT CADILLAC HEIGHTS, AND WE WILL ALSO SCHEDULE A FUTURE BRIEFING SO WE CAN GIVE THE FULL BODY AN OPPORTUNITY TO UNDERSTAND THE FULL PLAN OF WHAT, WHERE WE ARE NOW AND WHERE WE HOPE TO GO IN THE NEXT, UM, COUPLE [01:30:01] OF MONTHS ON SOME OF THE ADDITIONAL ACQUISITION AS WELL AS THE PLANS. SO WE ARE NOT WORKING IN A SILO. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT. THANK YOU, CHAIRWOMAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MAYOR JOHNSON. JUST, I'M JUST GONNA INSERT A LITTLE BIT OF PERSONAL INFORMATION ABOUT SERVICE CENTERS AND RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. UM, THERE WAS A HOUSE THAT, UM, ROB AND I AND OUR FAMILY LIVED IN FOR 20 YEARS. IT WAS PROBABLY A QUARTER OF A MILE FROM THE NORTHEAST SERVICE CENTER. AND I KNOW THIS IS GONNA SOUND ODD TO YOU ALL, BUT WE SAW THAT AS A BENEFIT. WE HAD DPD CARS DRIVE BY OUR HOUSE MULTIPLE TIMES A DAY ON THEIR WAY TO GO GET GAS OR REPAIR. AND, UM, IT, IT WAS, IT WAS JUST A, LIKE A LITTLE SAFETY NET. WE KNEW THEY WERE GONNA COME DOWN WHITE ROCK TRAIL AND, AND SEE OUR HOUSE RIGHT THERE AT THE CORNER. UM, AND THE OTHER THING IS, AND THIS IS, THIS IS MOSTLY ROB, HE LOVED THE FACT THAT THE SANDING TRUCKS ALSO WERE OUT FIRST IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN WE HAVE ICY CONDITIONS. AND HE WOULD ALWAYS BRAG ABOUT THAT. 'CAUSE WE LIVED IN A SORT OF HILLY PART OF THE CITY AND HE WAS LIKE, OH, WE'RE ALWAYS GOOD BECAUSE THE SANDING TRUCKS ARE RIGHT THERE IMMEDIATELY COMING ALONG WHITE ROCK TRAIL. AND SOMEHOW IT SEEMS TO SPILL OVER INTO SQUARE DRIVE AND WE'RE GOOD TO GO AND CAN, CAN GET OUT AND ABOUT. SO I KNOW THOSE ARE VERY SMALL, BUT JUST THE QUALITY OF LIFE, OUR QUALITY OF LIFE WAS NOT DIMINISHED BY BEING NEAR A SERVICE CENTER. IN FACT, THERE WERE A FEW PERKS. AND THAT'S ALL I JUST WANTED TO ADD. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN. RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. HAVE ANY LOTS ALREADY BEEN ACQUIRED THROUGH THIS BOND PROPOSITION FOR THE PURPOSE OF BUILDING THIS FACILITY? OR ARE THESE THE FIRST LOTS, A NUMBER OF THEM HAVE BEEN COMPLETED ALREADY. HOW MANY OR HOW WHAT ACREAGE THERE? THE TOTAL AREA COMPRISED OF 270 PARCELS. AND THESE ARE FIVE AND WE HAVE NINE MORE. WELL, WHAT'S THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THE 270 PARCELS? HAVE YOU ALREADY ACQUIRED THOSE? SO THE TOTAL GIVE THE TOTAL AND OF THE TOTAL WHAT WE'VE COMPLETED AND WHAT'S REMAINING, JUST MAKE IT VERY, VERY CLEAR FOR THIS FACILITY. OKAY. OKAY. WE HAVE A, SO THERE WERE A TOTAL OF 270 PARCELS. WE HAVE ACQUIRED 255 AND REMAINING IS 14. WELL, DO YOU NEED 270 PARCELS FOR THIS, UM, SERVICE FACILITY? SO THE FIRST PORTION OF THAT WAS FOR THE PARK PIECE THAT WAS MENTIONED, AND THEN THE REMAINING PIECES ARE PART OF THE ASSEMBLAGE FOR THE CITY SERVICE AND MAINTENANCE FACILITY. WELL, THAT'S WHAT I'M ASKING. HOW MANY LOTS HAVE YOU ALREADY PURCHASED FOR THE SERVICE FACILITY? I THINK WE WOULD NEED A FEW MINUTES TO BREAK DOWN THE TWO 70 SEPARATED FROM THE FIRST PORTION VERSUS WHAT WAS REMAINING. WELL, I, I'M LOOKING FOR HOW MANY HAVE BEEN PURCHASED WITH THIS BOND PROPOSITION. YOU HAVEN'T PURCHASED PARKLAND WITH THIS BOND PROPOSITION, HAVE YOU? NO. ALL PARCELS WERE PURCHASED WITH EITHER 2003 AND 2006 BOND PROPOSITIONS ALL PARCELS. BUT THIS SPECIFIC ONE WAS EITHER FOR A LAW ENFORCEMENT TRAINING CENTER OR A SERVICE FACILITY, CORRECT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. WELL, IF YOU CAN GET ME THAT INFORMATION, I'D LIKE TO KNOW HOW MANY OTHER LOTS, WHAT'S THE TOTAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF AREA THAT YOU NEED FOR THIS SERVICE FACILITY NOW, HAVE THESE LOTS BEEN THE SUBJECT OF A THIRD PARTY APPRAISAL WHEN YOU ARRIVED AT THIS $800,000 PURCHASE? YES, SIR. ALL HAVE BEEN INDEPENDENTLY APPRAISED. HOW MANY ARE IN THE FLOODPLAIN? I WOULD PROBABLY NEED HELP FROM DW ON THAT, BUT I CAN PROBABLY GET IT BROKEN OUT FROM YOU. WE DO HAVE A MAP THAT KIND OF SHOWS WHERE THAT LINEAGE, THAT LINE IS, AND I COULD PROVIDE THAT TO YOU. OKAY. AND WAS THAT TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT WITH THE APPRAISALS? YES, SIR. IT WAS. WHY NOW? WHY PURCHASE THESE PROPERTIES NOW WHEN WE DON'T HAVE FUNDING FOR DESIGN OR CONSTRUCTION AND WE DON'T EVEN HAVE A PROGRAM YET FOR A NEW FACILITY? WHY NOT WAIT UNTIL WE HAVE THAT FUNDING? WELL, THIS ASSEMBLAGE HAS BEEN IN PROCESS, AS MENTIONED FOR A FEW DECADES NOW. SO WE EITHER NEED TO FINISH WHAT WE HAVE AND COMPLETE THE ASSEMBLAGE AND THEN MAKE THE DECISION, BUT IT DOES NOT BENEFIT THE CITY TO HAVE POCKETS THAT WE OWN [01:35:01] AND THAT THERE ARE THEN INDIVIDUALS LIVING IN THIS AREA AND THAT WE DON'T OWN. SO WE NEED TO COMPLETE THIS ASSEMBLAGE BEFORE WE WOULD EVEN BE ABLE TO CONTEMPLATE WHAT WOULD BE DESIGNED OR WHAT SPACE WE WOULD HAVE OR WHAT WOULD GO IN THIS PARTICULAR SERVICE CENTER. WE WOULDN'T EVEN BE ABLE TO DO THAT UNTIL WE OWNED ALL THE DIRT THAT WE WOULD BE CONTEMPLATING DEVELOPING ON. WELL, I THINK THAT'S PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE, FRANKLY. WHY SHOULD WE BE SPENDING MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR A FACILITY THAT'S NOT PROGRAMMED? THAT ISN'T DESIGNED, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO DO THOSE THINGS FOR IT. WE MAY NEVER HAVE THE MONEY. WE DO RESPECTFULLY HAVE THE MONEY, SIR, IN THE 2006, WE HAVE THE $10 MILLION THAT IS REMAINING FOR THE ACQUISITION AND DEMOLITION THAT WAS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. BUT WE CAN'T USE THAT FOR DESIGNER CONSTRUCTION USE, SIR. CORRECT. BUT WE DO HAVE THE MONEY AVAILABLE TO COMPLETE THE ASSEMBLAGE THAT WE WERE APPROVED TO DO SO BY THE VOTERS. THAT'S THE FIRST STEP. WE, I UNDERSTAND THAT WE HAVE THE MONEY IN THIS BOND PROPOSITION, BUT THAT'S NOT MY POINT. MY POINT IS WHY ARE WE ACQUIRING THESE PROPERTIES NOW BEFORE WE HAVE ANY INSIGHT INTO WHAT WE WANNA LOCATE THERE AND ANY MONEY TO DESIGN OR CONSTRUC IT. SO WE, SO, SO IF I CAN, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, CAN I SPEAK PLEASE? UH, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS, COUNCIL MEMBER, RIDLEY. AND SO, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, THIS COUNCIL ASKED US THROUGH AN OFFICIAL ACTION OF THIS BODY TO COMPLETE THE ASSEMBLY OF THE PARCELS REMAINING TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND THEN DEVELOP THE PLAN. AND SO WHAT WE'RE LAYING OUT TODAY IS THAT THERE ARE REMAINING PARCELS THAT ARE NEEDED IN ORDER FOR US TO EVEN DEVELOP THE PLAN THAT WE'RE ASKING COUNSEL TO APPROVE. SO THE ACTION BEFORE YOU, I THINK WE'VE HAD FIVE OTHER ACTIONS IN THE LAST TWO YEARS THAT THIS BODY HAS APPROVED TO TELL US TO KEEP GOING. SO WHAT WE'RE DOING TODAY IS EXACTLY WHAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO DO. WHAT WE BELIEVE IS THAT BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THE CITY AND THE, THE VOTERS HAVE MADE A COMMITMENT THROUGH THAT BOND PROGRAM FOR US TO DEVELOP THIS SITE, WE CANNOT DEVELOP THE SITE WITHOUT THE REMAINING PARCELS THAT ARE NEEDED. SO THAT'S WHY WE'RE HERE TODAY, AND IT'S THE WILL OF THIS BODY. IF YOU WANT US TO STOP, THEN THAT'S THE ACTION THAT YOU NEED TO GIVE US TODAY. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT WE WERE TOLD TO DO WHEN WE'VE BRIEFED THIS PREVIOUSLY. I'M GOING TO, AGAIN, I KNOW THAT THERE'S A MEMORANDUM. I'M TRYING TO REMEMBER IF IT WAS IN APRIL OR MARCH OF THIS YEAR THAT WE SENT TO COUNCIL EXPLAINING THE REMAINING PARCELS THAT WERE NEEDED. I THINK WE ALSO INCLUDED SOME MAPS BECAUSE WE WERE ASKED TO SHOW THE PARTS OF THE PARCELS THAT ARE STILL IN THE FLOODPLAIN. WE WERE ASKED TO SHOW ALL THE PIECES THAT WE HAVE ACTUALLY ASSEMBLED ALREADY AND WHERE THE REMAINING OPPORTUNITIES WERE WITHIN THE AREA. AND SO WE'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE RECIRCULATE THAT, UM, TO THE CITY COUNCIL. BUT TODAY'S ACTION IS THE CONTINUATION OF WHAT COUNCIL HAS ASKED US TO MOVE FORWARD AND DO. SO JOHN, IS THERE ANY FUNDING IDENTIFIED IN THE 2006 BOND PROPOSITIONS OR ANY SUBSEQUENT BOND PROPOSITIONS TO FUND THE DESIGN OR DEVELOPMENT OF A SERVICE FACILITY AT THIS LOCATION? NOT THAT I'M AWARE. JUST THE ACQUISITION AND DEMOLITION. AND IS THERE ANY MONEY SET ASIDE IN THE 27 BUDGET FOR THAT PURPOSE? I'M NOT AWARE. NO, SIR. AND IS THERE ANY PLAN TO ADD THIS TO A 2029 BOND PROGRAM? THOSE DISCUSSIONS HAVE NOT YET OCCURRED, AND THAT WOULD BE A DECISION THAT THIS BODY WOULD ALSO MAKE. OKAY. THANK YOU MAYOR. MS. KANI, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES? I JUST HAVE TO SAY MY MAIN HESITATION WITH THIS IS ABOUT THE POSSIBLE IMMINENT DOMAIN FOR THE FAMILIES LOSING THEIR HOMES. THIS HAPPENED IN WEST DALLAS, EVEN TO MY OWN GREAT-GRANDMOTHER'S HOME, UM, IN WEST DALLAS. DAVID JENSEN LOST HIS HOME FOR THE PROPOSED THREE HOLE PUNCH, AND 10 YEARS LATER NOW IT'S BECOME A ONE HOLE PUNCH AND WE STILL DON'T HAVE IT. AND SO IF Y'ALL NOTICE, I TYPICALLY VOTE AGAINST EMINENT DOMAIN. AND I KNOW THIS IS NOT EMINENT DOMAIN HERE. I'M, I'M GUESSING THAT THIS ONE'S NOT, BUT THERE IS STILL THE POTENTIAL FOR IT. SO THAT'S MY HUGE HESITATION FOR THIS AS PEOPLE LOSING THEIR HOMES. THANK YOU. I THINK WE ARE ON. OKAY. I'M SORRY. I NEED TO GO TO YEAH, WE'RE, EVERYBODY IS ON A THIRD ROUND NOW. SO, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM, I'M GONNA RECOGNIZE YOU FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. UH, WE DO HAVE A PLAN. UH, AND I, AT THE REQUEST OF MY, OFF MY, MY REQUEST, MY OFFICE REQUEST, UH, THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES CAME OUT AND SPOKE WITH OUR COMMUNITY. THE COMMUNITY MADE IT VERY CLEAR WHAT THEIR, WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE, WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT THEY, THAT WE NEED OVER [01:40:01] HERE, UM, FOR TOO LONG IN SOUTHERN DALLAS. WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HEAR, WE HAVE TO WAIT TO GET THIS DONE OR WE DON'T HAVE NO MONEY FOR THIS. AND THAT'S BEEN PRETTY MUCH THE STORY OF OUR LIVES. AND SO, UH, WE'RE, WE ARE AWARE OF WHAT'S GOING ON AGAIN, TO HAVE A POLICE STOREFRONT, A POLICE STATION COMING INTO DISTRICT FOUR CODE OFFICE, SOMETHING THAT I PROMISED OUR COMMUNITY WHEN I WAS RUNNING FOR THIS PARTICULAR SCENE. AND THANKFULLY, WE DO STILL HAVE THAT PARTNERSHIP WITH THE CODE THAT IT DOES COME INTO OUR OFFICE AND POLICE, UH, DEPARTMENT THAT DOES COME AND PART PARTNER WITH US IN OUR OFFICE. BUT THEY HAVE THAT ACTUALLY OFFICE HERE IN DISTRICT FOUR. UH, AND THE CODE OFFICE HERE IN DISTRICT FOUR IS SOMETHING THAT THE COMMUNITY IS SUPPORTED ALONG WITH THE OTHER MAJOR, UH, DEVELOPMENT THAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AT CADILLAC HEIGHTS. AND WE CANNOT GET IT DONE UNTIL WE OWN ALL THE PS AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING, I'M SORRY, THAT IS YOUR TIME. I KNOW YOU'RE REMOTE AND CAN'T THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE THE CLOCK, SO I APOLOGIZE. UM, THAT'S IT. NO PROBLEM. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. THANK YOU. UM, MS. MIDDLESTON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU. THE COMMENT WAS MADE THAT THE BUILDINGS ARE SUBSTANDARD. CAN YOU TELL US HOW OLD THEY ARE? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE CANTON SERVICE CENTER? CANTON? YES. I DON'T HAVE, THEY'RE, THEY ARE A VARIETY OF PAGES. CAN YOU GIVE THE YEARS THEY WERE BUILT? NOT OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD, I'M SORRY. SO I THINK THE OLDEST ONE WAS 1982. MAYBE THEY WENT THROUGH 1984, WHICH MAKES THEM BETWEEN 43 AND 45 YEARS OLD. IF WE'RE GONNA REPLACE EVERY BUILDING IN THIS CITY THAT EXCEEDS 40 YEARS, WE WILL, WE WILL GO BANKRUPT. UM, HOW MANY DIFFERENT BUILDINGS ARE THERE IN CANTON? UH, GOOD MORNING. BRIAN THOMPSON, INTERIM DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT. THERE ARE 10 BUILDINGS WITHIN THE CANTON SERVICE CENTER, 10 BUILDINGS. SO WHAT WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT FOLKS IS ANOTHER BILL THAT'S GONNA SAY, HEY, ANOTHER BILLION DOLLAR DEAL FOR DALLAS TAXPAYERS. SO THAT WHAT, YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORK IN A 45-YEAR-OLD BUILDING. SO THERE'S A LOT OF ISSUES HERE. HOW MANY ACRES IS THE CADILLAC HEIGHTS PUT WHEN IT'S ASSEMBLED? IT'S A TOTAL OF 77 0. AND TODAY, CAN YOU TELL US HOW MANY ACRES CANTON IS? UH, I, I'M SORRY. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION RIGHT HERE. IT'S 20 ACRES. SO WHY WOULD WE NEED TO GO FROM 20 ACRES TO 70 ACRES? WELL, A PORTION OF THAT IS THE PARK, SO IT'S NOT ALL FOR THE SERVICE CENTER THAT'S IN THAT NUMBER FOR 70, HOW MANY ACRES IS THE PARK? AND THAT'S YOUR TIME FOR THIS ROUND. ARE YOU ABLE TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION? IT'S APPROXIMATELY 35 ACRES, THE FIRST SECTION FOR THE PARKS, WHICH LEAVES 40 ACRES FOR THE SERVICE CENTER. THANK YOU. TREVOR MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR ONE MINUTE. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UH, CHAIR STEWART, THANK YOU FOR, FOR YOUR COMMENTS. UM, I'VE RECEIVED ZERO COMPLAINTS FROM THE DEEP ELLUM SERVICE CENTER, UH, TO THE ADJOINING COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT I CONSTANTLY HEAR ABOUT THE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT SPUR IN IN DISTRICT FOUR. UM, WE HAVE OUR ANYTHING FROM SOMEONE RIDING A SANITATION TRUCK TO OUR DIRECTORS OUT OF THE CANTON OUT SERVICE CENTER. I HAVE A QUESTION. UM, THE DOLLAR AMOUNT THAT COULD COME THROUGH THE SALE OF THE, UH, SERVICE CENTER IN DEEP EL, IF THIS COUNCIL WERE TO DIRECT, UH, THROUGH RESOLUTION TO OUR CITY MANAGER TO USE SOME OF THOSE PROCEEDS TO CONSTRUCT A NEW SERVICE CENTER, WOULD THAT BE POSSIBLE? MADAM, UM, UH, CITY MANAGER, IF THAT'S THE WILL OF THE BODY. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO, UH, SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 26 SAYING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? NAY? THAT'S TOO CLOSE. I FROM ON VOICE. LET'S GO AHEAD AND, UH, RECORD VOTE. OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KADENA, NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BASEL DOA IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH? NO. [01:45:01] COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL RIDLEY? NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM JOHNSON? YES. MAYOR PROM? YES. THANK YOU. MAYOR JOHNSON. ? YES. WITH NINE VOTING IN FAVOR. FIVE OPPOSED? ONE ABSENT AND VOTE TAKEN. THE ITEM PASSES, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, [27. 26-2296A Authorize a two-year architectural and engineering services contract with Tetra Tech, Inc. to perform a Facilities Condition Assessment at various City of Dallas facilities - Tetra Tech, Inc., the most advantageous proposer of five - Not to exceed $3,493,200.60 - Financing: 2017 General Obligation Bond Funds ($1,868,127.00), 2024 General Obligation Bond Funds ($253,515.00), and ARPA Redevelopment Fund ($1,371,558.60) *In alignment with Capital Improvement Program.] LET'S KEEP MOVING. AGENDA ITEM 27. AUTHORIZE A TWO YEAR ARCHITECTURAL AND ENGINEERING SERVICES CONTRACT WITH TETRA TECH INC. TO PERFORM A FACILITIES CON CONDITION ASSESSMENT AT VARIOUS CITY OF DALLAS FACILITIES NOT TO EXCEED $3,493,200 AND 60 CENTS. THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS BLACKMAN WEST AND MENDELSSOHN. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. IS THERE A MOTION ON THIS ONE TO DENY? ALRIGHT. THERE WAS A MOTION TO DENY BY, UH, CHAIRMAN WEST AND SECONDED BY MS. BLACKMAN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR MOTION. THANK YOU, MAYOR. AND, UM, THIS WAS, UH, BROUGHT TO ME AS A REQUEST FROM STAFF. THIS CAME TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE AS WELL. UM, THE, THE SHORT VERSION IS THAT A RESIDENT BROUGHT UP A CONCERN WITH THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR IN A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEETING. UM, STAFF TOOK THE INITIATIVE TO GO RESEARCH THE VENDOR, UH, UH, DISCOVERED THAT THE VENDOR HAD APPLIED FOR THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT AND WAS ACTUALLY NOT STILL RESIDING IN THE CITY OF DALLAS. SO, UM, THE POINT SYSTEM WOULD NOT HAVE THEORETICALLY ENDED UP IN THEIR FAVOR IF THAT HAD BEEN DISCLOSED CORRECTLY IN THEIR APPLICATION, WHICH IS WHY STAFF, UM, I BELIEVE WANTS TO RE-NOTICE THIS. BUT I'LL DE DEFER ANY QUESTIONS TO THEM IF, IF FOLKS HAVE IT. THANK YOU MS. MINES YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ACTUAL ITEM. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UM, WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETED? UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. BRIAN THOMPSON, INTERIM INTERIM DIRECTOR OF FACILITIES MANAGEMENT. THE LAST FACILITIES CONDITION ASSESSMENT WAS IN 2017 ON 220 FACILITIES. AND WHAT WAS THE PURPOSE AT THAT TIME OF COMPLETING A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT? DO YOU KNOW? UH, UH, THE SAME PURPOSE THAT WE WOULD COMPLETE ONE TODAY TO GIVE US A CLEAR PICTURE OF THE CONDITION OF OUR FACILITIES DRIVE OUR CAPITAL PLANNING PROCESS AND REINVESTMENT PROCESSES. SO THERE'S ACTUALLY A LOT OF CONVERSATION AT THE CITY COUNCIL ABOUT THIS, UM, ASSESSMENT. AND THE REASON THEY DID IT WAS TO PREPARE FOR THE 2017 BOND SO THEY COULD BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT THE CAPITAL NEEDS WERE. AND DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT THE COST WAS FOR THAT 2017? IF I RECALL? JUST A LITTLE OVER 2 MILLION. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE AS WELL. AND IN FACT, DO YOU REMEMBER WHAT FUNDS THEY USED TO COMPLETE IT, WHERE THAT 2 MILLION CAME FROM? DO YOU REMEMBER THAT? I DON'T REMEMBER. SO IT CAME FROM THE 2006 BOND. THEY TOOK MONEY FROM THE 2006 BOND THAT WAS NOT ALLOCATED FOR A FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. AND THE COUNCIL REDIRECTED THE FUNDS FROM THAT. THE FUNDS WERE ORIGINALLY INTENDED TO REPAIR THE SOUTHEAST SERVICE CENTER FLEET MAINTENANCE SHOP. DO Y'ALL REMEMBER THAT ITEM THAT WE HAD TWICE? THE REASON WE HAD TO HAVE THAT ITEM WAS 'CAUSE WE TOOK THE MONEY AND OF COURSE NONE OF US WERE HERE THEN, BUT THAT COUNCIL DIVERTED THE FUNDS, REALLOCATED THE FUNDS TO DO A FLEET, UH, I'M SORRY TO DO THIS FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT. WE WOULDN'T HAVE EVEN BEEN TALKING ABOUT IT. THE GUYS WORKING THERE WOULD HAVE AIR CONDITIONING, THEY WOULDN'T HAVE PAINT PEELING, THEIR TOILETS WOULDN'T BE OVERFLOWING INTO THE SHOP. SO THEY ADDED DEBT, 20 YEAR DEBT TO DO A REPORT. NOW I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EVER PASSED MUSTER BECAUSE OF COURSE WE'RE GONNA DO THIS AGAIN, RIGHT? BECAUSE PART OF THE FUNDING FOR THIS ITEM IS DEBT FOR A REPORT. IT'S NOT A CAPITAL EXPENSE. I DON'T KNOW HOW THAT EVEN PASSED MUSTER FOR A BOND, BUT IT'S A TERRIBLE PRACTICE TO TAKE DEBT TO GET A REPORT. THIS REPORT, WHICH WAS DONE AS YOU SAY IN 2017, IT MIGHT EVEN BE LATE 2016 TO PREPARE FOR THE 2017 BOND. IS IT STILL IN DATE? NO COUNCIL MEMBER. SO IT'S NOT EVEN USEFUL, [01:50:01] BUT WE'RE STILL PAYING INTEREST ON THAT REPORT. TODAY. YOUR TAX DOLLARS ARE PAYING FOR A REPORT WE CAN'T EVEN USE. THIS IS EXACTLY WHY IT'S A TERRIBLE USE OF FUNDS. AND THIS, THIS ITEM WAS INTENDED TO HAVE $253,515 FROM THAT BOND, THE 2017 BOND, WHICH AGAIN, NEVER CONSIDERED IN A 2017 BOND WHERE THEY GOT THE FACILITY CONDITION ASSESSMENT IN 2016 TO DO IT AGAIN IN 20 $17, IT WAS NOT CONSIDERED WE WOULD BE REDIRECTING THOSE FUNDS. DO YOU SEE HOW IT WORKS WITH BONDS AND REDIRECTING FUNDS? HERE'S TWO ITEMS IN A ROW FOR MULTIPLE BONDS WHERE ITEMS ARE BEING REDIRECTED BY THE COUNCIL. THE OTHER IS 1.37, UH, MILLION OF ARPA. WE'VE GOT A BUDGET AMENDMENT COMING. I'M GONNA BE ASKING ABOUT THE ARPA. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE THAT IS A GOOD USE OF ARPA FUNDS. IT'S A ONE-TIME EXPENSE. IT'S SOMETHING WE, WE DO NEED. I'M FOR HAVING A, A CONDITION ASSESSMENT OF OUR FACILITIES. I'M FOR THAT, BUT I HIGHLY OBJECT TO USING AND REDIRECTING BOND FUNDS TO THIS. IT'S A TERRIBLE USE TO USE BOND FUNDS, NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, I MEAN THERE'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION ABOUT BOND FUNDS IN REDIRECTING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DENY ITEM 27? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, [41. 26-2959A An ordinance amending Ordinance No. 33230, previously approved on September 17, 2025, as amended by Ordinance No. 33463, previously approved on June 24, 2026, authorizing (1) certain transfers and appropriation adjustments for FY 2025-26 for the maintenance and operation of various departments and activities; and (2) the City Manager to implement those adjustments - Not to exceed $5,967,988,552 - Financing: General Fund ($1,983,739,927), Enterprise Funds, Internal Service, and Other Funds ($1,868,683,364), Grants, Trust, and Other Funds ($275,759,007), and Capital Funds ($1,839,806,254)] AGENDA ITEM 41. IT IS AN ORDINANCE AMENDING ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 3 2 3 0 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON SEPTEMBER 17TH, 2025 AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCE NUMBER 3 3 4 6 3 PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON JUNE 24TH, 2026 AUTHORIZING ONE CERTAIN TRANSFERS AND APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENTS FOR FFY 20 25, 26 FOR THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATION OF VARIOUS DEPARTMENTS AND ACTIVITIES AND TO THE CITY MANAGER TO IMPLEMENT THOSE ADJUSTMENTS, NOT TO EXCEED $5,967,988,552. THIS ITEM WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON AND COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN, IS THERE A MOTION ON 27? I'M SORRY, ON, UH, 41 MOVE TO PROOF. IS THERE A SECOND? YES. ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WHO PULLED IT? COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON AND BLACKMAN. WOULD EITHER OF YOU LIKE TO GO FIRST? WHICH, OKAY. OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED MS. MENDELSON FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UH, THIS WAS AN AGENDA ITEM FOR THE FINANCE COMMITTEE. I'M WONDERING IF, UH, STAFF OR THE COMMITTEE CHAIR WOULD LIKE TO, UM, CHARACTERIZE THE DISCUSSION OF THIS ITEM. THIS IS OUR YEAR END BUDGET ITEM, CORRECT. GOOD. A OR GOOD MORNING, JEANETTE WHEAT AND BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES? THAT'S CORRECT. THIS ITEM WAS BRIEFED TO THE FINANCE COMMITTEE ON AUGUST 24TH. THIS IS OUR END OF YEAR APPROPRIATION ADJUSTMENT ORDINANCE. SO PER CITY CHARTER, THE CITY, UH, CITY DEPARTMENTS ARE NOT ALLOWED TO EXCEED THEIR APPROPRIATION. SO EACH YEAR WE PREPARE AND PRESENT TO YOU ALL END OF YEAR APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE WHERE WE REALLOCATE FUNDING TO MAKE SURE THAT WE END THE YEAR AT BUDGET OR UNDER BUDGET. AND WHAT WAS THE COMMITTEE'S DISCUSSION ABOUT THIS ITEM? SO THERE WAS A BRIEFING. UM, WE TALKED ABOUT DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE FORECAST TO BE OVER BUDGET, HOW WE WERE USING SAVINGS. AND THE ITEM WAS, UH, MOVE FORWARD. WAS THERE ANY COMMITTEE DISCUSSION? YES. AND WHAT WAS THE NATURE OF THAT DISCUSSION? SO THEY ASKED SPECIFICALLY ABOUT, UM, DEPARTMENTS THAT WERE, UH, LINE ITEMS THAT WE WERE FORECASTED TO BE OVER BUDGET. WE TALKED ABOUT HOW, HOW WE WERE GOING TO COVER THE REVENUE AND THE REVENUE SOURCE ASSOCIATED WITH, UH, COVERING THE SHORTFALL. SO THERE WERE A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT QUESTIONS. OKAY. AND CAN YOU TELL US AS, UM, YOU LOOK THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE, CAN YOU TELL ME WHAT ENDED UP THE TOTAL AMOUNT OF ARPA FUNDS USED IN FISCAL YEAR 26? SO THE, THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET ORDINANCE, UM, INCLUDED ARPA ARPA APPROPRIATIONS OF ABOUT 22.3 MILLION. UM, IN THE ARPA REDEVELOPMENT FUND, WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ARPA REDEVELOPMENT FUND, UH, THE TOTAL INCEPTION TO DATE BUDGET IS ABOUT 192.4 MILLION. IF YOU ALL RECALL THAT THAT FUND WAS SET UP IN 2024, UM, FROM A REALLOCATION [01:55:01] FROM THE GRANT FUND. SO, UM, AS WE HAVE EARNED INTEREST IN THAT PARTICULAR FUND, WE'VE APPROPRIATED THAT INTEREST. AND SO THE 26TH BUDGET THAT WAS PRESENTED TO YOU ALL LAST YEAR, UM, INCLUDED ADDITIONAL PREPARATIONS, UM, FOR DIFFERENT PROJECTS. WOULD YOU THINK IT'S FAIR TO SAY THAT THE ARPA FUND IS BEING USED TO SUPPLEMENT GENERAL FUNDS FOR RUNNING SOME DEPARTMENTS? NO. I WOULD SAY THAT THE ARPA REDEVELOPMENT FUND IS BEING USED FOR ONE TIME INITIATIVES THAT, UH, THIS COUNCIL HAS DETERMINED TO BE A PRIORITY. SO I'M JUST GONNA GO THROUGH A COUPLE OF THEM. MAYBE YOU COULD HELP ME. THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, 150,000 OF ARPA WAS, UM, PROPOSED. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT ONE? AND THE NEXT ONE'S GONNA BE CODE COMPLIANCE FOR 161,000. SO THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE WAS FOR CONSULTATION. SO, UM, ANYTIME YOU HAVE DIFFERENT PROJECTS THAT ARE PART OF THE ARPA REDEVELOPMENT FUND OR EVEN THE ARPA GRANT FUND THAT REQUIRE A CONTRACT, SOME OF THOSE CONTRACTS MAY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL, UM, UH, UH, ASSISTANCE IN TERMS OF FORMULATING THE CONTRACTS. SO THAT'S WHAT THAT WAS FOR, FOR COMPLIANCE. AND ISN'T THAT TYPICALLY A GENERAL FUND EXPENSE? SO AGAIN, UH, THE ARPA REDEVELOPMENT FUND AS WELL AS THE ARPA GRANT FUND REFLECTS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR ADDITIONAL DIFFERENT INITIATIVES. SO IF A PROJECT OR A CONTRACT IS GOING FORWARD AND IT'S FUNDED BY ARPA, THEN UM, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO USE ARPA FUNDS TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT OF THAT CONTRACT. OKAY. AND CAN YOU SHARE WITH US THE 161,000 FOR ARPA UM, COMPLIANCE? SO THE CO THE CO COMPLIANCE ITEM IN A PRIOR YEAR, UH, THERE WAS A PROJECT THAT TRI-CITY HOSPITAL DEMOLITION WAS SET UP. THAT PROJECT WAS ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS AND IT ENDED UP BEING, UH, SLIGHTLY MORE THAN WHAT THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS FOR. SO THE ADDITIONAL APPROPRIATION WAS COVERING THE OVERAGE ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT. AND THEN FOR FACILITY AND REAL ESTATE MANAGEMENT, 7.5 MILLION. SO 7.5 MILLION. UM, IT'S A COMBINATION OF DIFFERENT THINGS. I THINK IT WAS MAJOR MAINTENANCE AT, UH, CENTRAL PATROL. UM, SOME MAJOR MAINTENANCE ITEMS AT, UH, THE LIBRARY. AND I'D HAVE TO, I CAN SHARE A FULL LIST. I DON'T HAVE A FULL LIST WITH ME. UH, THE TOTAL APPROPRIATIONS FOR THAT PARTICULAR LINE ITEM IS 15 MILLION, BUT THE FISCAL YEAR 26 APPROPRIATION WAS 7.5 MILLION. AND WAS ANY OF IT RELATED TO CITY HALL? UH, NO. ACTUALLY CITY HALL IS A SEPARATE LINE ITEM. IT'S AR 61. SO FOR CITY HALL IT WAS GENERATION AND ELECTRICAL UPGRADES. OKAY. AND ALSO, OR GENERATORS, SORRY, ALSO BUDGET AND MANAGEMENT SERVICES 319,000. SO, UH, THAT IS ACTUALLY, UH, WHAT LINE ITEM ARE YOU ON? OH, THAT'S 19,000 ACTUALLY. OH, THAT'S ARPA SUPPORT. SO THAT'S ARPA COMPLIANCE AND SUPPORT. SO JUST LIKE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, UM, WE HAVE STAFF, UM, IN OUR OFFICE THAT ARE FUNDED OUT OF THE ARPA REDEVELOPMENT, UH, GRANT FUND. AND SO THEY ARE FACILITATING THE WORK ASSOCIATED WITH ARPA DOLLARS. AND SO THIS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR COMPLIANCE AND SUPPORT, WE DO HAVE A VENDOR THAT WE USE TO GO OUT AND RESEARCH BEST PRACTICES, UH, TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE COMPLIANT WITH US TREASURY GUIDANCE. AND SO THAT, THAT'S THAT LINE ITEM. SO WHEN THE ARPA FUNDS ARE EXPENDED, ARE YOU EXPECTING TO REDUCE STAFF? OH, ABSOLUTELY. SO ONCE THE GRANT ENDS, AND IF YOU RECALL, FC 18 IS THE GRANT FUND AND SO WE ARE REQUIRED TO, UM, SPEND THOSE DOLLARS BY SEPTEMBER 30TH. UH, IF YOU LOOK IN, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE ARPA REPORT, UH, APPENDIX A IS THE GRANT FUND. WE, UH, WE ARE WELL ON OUR WAY TO SPENDING ALL OF THOSE FUNDS BY THE END OF THE FIRST QUARTER OF FISCAL YEAR 27, UM, WE EXPECT CLOSE OUT TO BE COMPLETE. AND SO ALL OF THE STAFFING ASSOCIATED WITH THAT PROJECT WILL END. AND FOR PARK AND REC, YOU HAVE 935,000 FOR ARPA. SO PARK AND RECREATION, THAT WAS A, UH, END OF YEAR BUDGET AMENDMENT, UM, THAT WAS USING, IT DID A COUPLE DIFFERENT THINGS. IT REDUCED THE GENERAL FUND TAX RATE AND THEN IT SWAPPED OUT ONGOING DOLLARS WITH ARPA DOLLARS. SO IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AMENDMENT AT THE, DURING BUDGET DEVELOPMENT OF FISCAL YEAR 26. AND IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE USED FOR AQUATICS, BUT IT WOULD'VE OTHERWISE BEEN GENERAL FUND. CORRECT. BUT IT WAS A CITY COUNCIL BUDGET AMENDMENT [02:00:01] THAT RECEIVED MAJORITY SUPPORT. I'M, I'M NOT POINTING A FINGER AT STAFF ON THIS. OKAY, THANK YOU. UM, FOR PROCUREMENT SERVICES, 500,000. SO THIS IS ONE WE TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK AS PART OF THE UM, UH, FISCAL YEAR 27 BUDGET. SO, UH, WE ARE USING UH, ARPA DOLLARS IN THE CURRENT YEAR FOR THE UM, UH, UH, UM, YES D ACCELERATION PROJECT AND FOR TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS WE'VE GOT 2 MILLION THAT WAS ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR STREET MAINTENANCE. THIS ONE I TOTALLY SUPPORT. THANK YOU. UM, OKAY, SO NOW MOVING ON TO DEBT. CAN YOU TELL US, 'CAUSE IT'S ALSO INCLUDING THIS ORDINANCE, WHAT IS THE COST FOR DEBT SERVICE? SO THE FISCAL YEAR 26 BUDGET FOR, UH, DEBT SERVICE EXPENSE IS 491 MILLION. UM, WE'RE FORECAST TO SPEND ABOUT, IT'S ACTUALLY 4 91, SO IT'S 490,776,611. SO I JUST WANNA HIGHLIGHT THAT NUMBER. I HAVE TWO MINUTES LEFT. $491 MILLION IS BEING SPENT. 491 MILLION IS BEING SPENT ON DEBT SERVICE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26. IF WE DIDN'T HAVE SUCH HIGH DEBT, WE WOULD HAVE A LOWER AMOUNT AND WE WOULD HAVE MORE MONEY IN OUR GENERAL FUND. WELL, WE HAVE TOO MUCH DEBT. WELL THIS IS A DEBT SERVICE, RIGHT? YES. AND IF I MAY, SO OR WE'D HAVE A LOWER TAX RATE. CORRECT. SO CITY COUNCIL APPROPRIATES, UH, A SEPARATE TAX RATE FOR BOTH THE DEBT SERVICE SIDE OF THE TAX RATE AND THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THE TAX RATE. SO, UM, AND THE GENERAL FUND PORTION OF THE TAX RATE IS CAPPED AT 3.5%. SO YOUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE IS USED TO COVER DEBT SERVICE. THIS BODY HAS CONSISTENTLY APPROVED A, UH, BOND PROGRAM EVERY FIVE TO SIX YEARS. AND SO, UM, WE USE THE DEBT SERVICE PORTION OF THE TAX RATE TO SUPPORT THE BOND PROGRAM. IF IT IS THE WILL OF THE BODY TO NO LONGER HAVE A DEBT, UH, A BOND PROGRAM, THEN OF COURSE YES, WE COULD REDUCE OUR DEBT SERVICE TAX RATE OR WE COULD LET SOME DEBT EXPIRE AND LOWER THAT TAX RATE FOR OUR RESIDENTS. I WOULD SUGGEST TO OUR LEGISLATIVE CHAIR THAT ONE OF THE SOLUTIONS AND SUGGESTIONS WE OFFER TO THE TEXAS LEDGE IS TO INCENTIVIZE THE CITY TO REDUCE OUR DEBT BY ALLOWING US TO PERHAPS CAN WE STAY ON THE, WE POSTED, TIED UP OF THE POSTED ITEM, NOT DIRECT THE LEGISLATIVE CHAIR. WELL, I'M TALKING ABOUT THAT SERVICE. YEAH, I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE TIME TO GIVE THE LEGISLATIVE CHAIR AN AGENDA. THANK YOU. WELL, I THINK OUR DEBT SERVICE IS WAY TOO HIGH AND I HOPE THAT SOMEBODY WILL CHANGE AND INCENTIVIZE CITIES SO THAT THEY WILL REDUCE THEIR AMOUNT OF DEBT SO THAT WE DON'T SEE THIS KIND OF NUMBER NEXT YEAR, WHICH WE WILL, AND INSTEAD WE WILL REDUCE OUR DEBT AND PERHAPS WE WOULD BE INCENTIVIZED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE SOME OF THAT TO GENERAL FUND. THANK YOU MS. BLACKMAN RECORDS FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. AND, UM, THANKS JEANETTE FOR, I MEAN I PULLED THE UM, UH, BRIEFING THAT YOU HAD. SO I HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. THE APPROVED AMOUNT FROM LAST YEAR WAS 5.8 BILLION, RIGHT? FOR THE 20 25, 26 WE'RE NOW ABOUT TO APPROVE A 5.967 BILLION AMENDMENT, CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. AND THEN WE JUST APPROVED A 5.66 BILLION. SO, UH, IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT THE PRESENTA, THE MID-YEAR PRESENTATION, SO THE TOTAL UH, APPROPRIATION ORDINANCE FOR FISCAL YEAR 26 WAS WAS 5.8 BILLION. AND SO THAT INCLUDES ALSO YOUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. SO IT'S ALMOST A DOUBLE COUNT BECAUSE THOSE DOLLAR AMOUNTS APPEAR IN YOUR OPERATING FUNDS AS WELL. IT ALSO INCLUDES CAPITAL. THIS END OF YEAR BUDGET APP, APPROPRIATION AMENDMENT WILL AMEND THE BUDGET BY 139.4 MILLION. CORRECT. KEEP IN MIND, 103.4 MILLION OF THAT IS CAPITAL THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BODY, WHICH, OKAY, THAT'S WHAT I WAS GONNA ASK YOU. THAT WAS KIND OF ALARMING. I WAS GOING, I DON'T KNOW IF WE, OKAY, SO IS THE THAT, SO THE 103 HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED AND ON ITS WAY AND WHEN YOU SAY CAPITAL, THAT'S USUALLY FROM A BOND, CORRECT? IT'S OKAY. IT'S, IT'S BOND PROGRAMS. IT'S YOUR DWU, YOUR WATER CAPITAL. OKAY. AVIATION. SO YOU HAVE ALREADY APPROVED THOSE ITEMS. THE END OF YOUR ORDINANCE IS A CULMINATION OF THAT ACTIVITY THAT HAS OCCURRED THIS YEAR, BUT ALSO ADJUSTMENTS THAT ARE NEEDED [02:05:01] TO END THE YEAR. OKAY. BECAUSE, 'CAUSE MY QUESTION WAS GOING TO BE, ARE WE GOING TO SEE THIS NEXT YEAR AS WELL WHEN WE DO THIS? BECAUSE WE ARE WE GONNA GO OVER, YOU KNOW, 6 BILLION MAYBE WHEN WE, UH, AND, AND I'M JUST WONDERING, DO WE HA AND AND YOU'RE SAYING MOST OF IT HAS BEEN APPROVED AND THROUGH BONDING IT'S NOT GONNA HAVE TO COME OUT OF RESERVES. THAT WAS WHAT I WAS KIND OF QUESTIONING. OH, NO. SO, UM, THE, THE ITEMS THAT, UM, WENT BEFORE YOU AS CAPITAL ITEMS, THEY WERE ITEMS THAT WERE EITHER PART OF THE UH, UH, THERE'S FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH IT, SO THERE'S NO RESERVES USED. SO ANY RESERVES WOULD'VE BEEN THE MAYBE DALLAS WATER UTILITY FUND BALANCE RESERVES WHERE THEY HAVE THE FUNDING TO DO IT. OKAY. SO THAT'S JUST AN EXAMPLE. I'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND LOOK THROUGH EVERY SINGLE ITEM TO TELL YOU WHERE THE REVENUE CAME FROM. OKAY, BECAUSE THAT, THAT WAS MY QUESTION. 'CAUSE I SAW THE HUNDRED OVER A HUNDRED. I, UM, I DON'T THINK I'VE EVER SEEN IT LIKE THIS, SO, OKAY. THAT WAS MY QUESTION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MS. CENA. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. UM, I HAVE TWO QUESTIONS. SO ON PAGE 19 WHERE IT SAYS TRANSFER OF FUNDS FROM THE DIFFERENT TAX, UH, TIF DISTRICTS, AT THE END IT SAYS, REIMBURSEMENT OF TAX INCREMENT FINANCING ADMINISTRATION COSTS. SO IS THAT GOING TO A SPECIFIC DEPARTMENT THAT GOES TO THE, UH, OFFICE OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT? AND IS THIS A CHANGE FROM WHAT WE'VE DONE IN THE PAST? NO, THIS IS ACTUALLY WHAT APPEARS ON, UM, THE ORDINANCE EVERY YEAR. SO AS PART OF FACILITATING, UH, THAT PARTICULAR TAX INCREMENT PROGRAM, UH, THERE STAFF COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH IT AND, UM, WE'RE ABLE TO PROVIDE A REIMBURSEMENT FOR THE TIME, FOR THE TIME SPENT FACILITATING THAT PROGRAM. OKAY. AND THEN ON PAGE 23, E, UH, ITEM E IT TALKS ABOUT THE FORT WORTH AVENUE TIP DISTRICT AND MONEY BEING AUTHORIZED FOR DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. IS THAT NEW? NO. SO THE, THE, THE WAY TO READ THIS ORDINANCE, UM, THE ORDINANCE WILL PICK UP ITEMS THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN APPROVED. WHAT'S BEFORE YOU TODAY REPRESENTS UNDERLINES AND STRIKETHROUGHS. OKAY. SO THE SECTION THAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS ACT WAS ACTUALLY PART OF THE ORIGINAL ITEM THAT WAS APPROVED BY COUNCIL BACK LAST SEPTEMBER, BUT THIS REFLECTS, UM, ACTIVITY FOR TIF DISTRICT THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN APPROVED BY THIS BODY. IT STATES THAT IT WAS AUTHORIZED BY COUNCIL RESOLUTION 24 14 0 1. AND SO BECAUSE IT STARTS WITH THE 24, THAT ACTIVITY, THAT AUTHORIZATION OCCURRED IN 2024. OKAY, THANK YOU. YOU'RE WELCOME. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST AGENDA ITEM 41 SAYING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, [42. 26-2919A Authorize an amendment to Resolution No. 26-0896, previously approved on May 27, 2026, to authorize a secured, zero percent interest, forgivable loan agreement in the amount of $800,000 to First Presbyterian Church of Dallas, Texas dba The Stewpot to provide for rehabilitation of the property located at 1610 South Malcolm X Boulevard, Dallas, Texas 75226 to (1) revise the term of the agreement to October 1, 2026 through September 30, 2026 2027; (2) identify the specific building upon which the lien and deed restrictions shall be imposed, Partner Building 350; and (3) clarify the terms of the forgivable loan agreement - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) *In alignment with HUD Consolidated Plan.] AGENDA ITEM 42. ITEM 42, AUTHORIZE AN AMENDMENT TO RESOLUTION NUMBER 26 DASH 8 96, PREVIOUSLY APPROVED ON MAY 27TH, 2026 TO AUTHORIZE A SECURED 0% INTEREST FORGIVABLE LOAN AGREEMENT IN THE AMOUNT OF $800,000 TO FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH OF DALLAS, TEXAS, DBA, THE STUPOT TO PROVIDE FOR REHABILITATION OF THE PROPERTY LOCATED AT 1 6 1 0 SOUTH MALCOLM X BOULEVARD, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 2 6 2 1. REVISED THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT TO OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2027 TO IDENTIFY THE SPECIFIC BUILDING UPON WHICH THE LIEN AND DEED RESTRICTIONS SHALL BE IMPOSED. PARTNER BUILDING THREE 50 AND THREE, CLARIFY THE TERMS OF THE FORGIVABLE LOAN AGREEMENT. THIS ITEM WAS CORRECTED AND WAS PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. IS THERE A MOTION? YES, MAYOR, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM UNTIL DECEMBER 9TH, 2026. SECOND. ALRIGHT, SO WE MOVED TO SECOND. DO YOU HAVE ANY DISCUSSION? UH, YES. FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. THIS WAS A REQUEST FROM STAFF. IF ANY OF MY CO I'LL ASK STAFF JUST TO GIVE A BRIEF EXPLANATION AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND, UM, YES, IN IN CONVERSATIONS WITH THE FIRST PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH REPRESENTATIVES, THEY HAVE REACHED OUT, UM, AND ASKED US TO MOVE THIS ITEM TO DECEMBER SO WE COULD HAVE ADDITIONAL CONVERSATIONS REGARDING THE AGREEMENT AND THE TERMS. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER ON ITEM 42? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM PLEASE. [48. 26-2726A Consideration of appointments to boards and commissions and the evaluation and duties of board and commission members (List of nominees is available in the City Secretary's Office)] THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR ITEMS FOR INDIVIDUAL CONSIDERATION, BEGINNING WITH AGENDA ITEM 48. AGENDA ITEM 48 IS CONSIDERATION OF APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS. THIS MORNING YOU HAVE AN INDIVIDUAL NOMINEE AND CHAIR APPOINTMENTS. THE CHAIR APPOINTMENTS WILL BE BY SEPARATE VOTE TO ALLOW THE MAYOR TO ABSTAIN YOUR NOMINEE FOR INDIVIDUAL [02:10:01] APPOINTMENT TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION. GMA E HAW GARTH IS BEING NOMINATED BY COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR, THIS IS YOUR NOMINEE. MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION. APPROVE ALL I HEARD A MOTION IN A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. CONGRATULATIONS. YOUR CHAIR APPOINTMENTS. THE FOLLOWING INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN NOMINATED CHAIR BY MAYOR JOHNSON TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES. HAN JOHN CAL CONLEY IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR AGAIN TO THE COMMISSION ON DISABILITIES. DEREK J SANDLER IS BEING NOMINATED CHAIR OF THE REINVESTMENTS ZONE 19 BOARD, CYPRUS WATERS AND LEANDER T JOHNSON IS BEING NOMINATED. CHAIR OF THE SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK OPPORTUNITY FUND BOARD. AGAIN, ALL BY MAYOR JOHNSON. THESE ARE YOUR NOMINEES, MR. MAYOR, I'M LOOKING FOR A MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S MOVED. AND SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. [49. 26-2915A A resolution authorizing the approval and adoption of the Dallas Cultural Plan 2018, Revised and Restated 2026, attached as Exhibit A, to replace the Dallas Cultural Plan 2018 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City] THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND I ABSTAIN. NOTED. AGENDA ITEM 49 AUTHORIZE IS A, IS A RESOLUTION AUTHORIZING THE APPROVAL AND ADOPTION OF THE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN. 2018 REVISED AND RESTATED 2026 ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A TO REPLACE THE DALLAS CULTURAL PLAN 2018. THIS IS YOUR ITEM MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION. MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION MS. MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. THERE'S ACTUALLY A REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION AT THE QUALITY OF LIFE, UH, COMMITTEE ABOUT THIS AND, UM, THE PLAN NEEDS A LOT OF UPDATING. UM, IT LOOKS LIKE ALL WE'RE APPROVING RIGHT NOW ARE CHANGES BASED ON FEDERAL LAW AND THE WHOLE DEI ISSUE. SO I'M FINE WITH SAYING YES, BUT WE CAN'T SAY YES WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT MANY OF THE THINGS THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THAT PLAN ARE, UM, NO LONGER RELEVANT. SO I DON'T WANT TO BLINDLY AFFIRM THIS PLAN THAT CALLS FOR PROVIDING NEW SPACES AND NEW BUILDINGS AND DEVELOPING NEW, UM, LOCATIONS FOR ARTS. WHEN I THINK WE ARE IN A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT PLACE. UM, FINANCIALLY WE'RE PERHAPS IN THE SAME PLACE. ACTUALLY, WE JUST DIDN'T EVER TALK ABOUT IT THEN AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW. SO I'M GONNA VOTE. YES, WE NEED TO MAKE THESE CHANGES, BUT IT CAN'T BE DONE WITHOUT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT THERE ARE, UM, VERY PROBLEMATIC THINGS THAT ARE IN THERE TODAY THAT DON'T FIT OUR CURRENT SITUATION. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST AGENDA 49? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, AGENDA. [50. 26-3067A An ordinance approving Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport Board Resolution No. 2026-08-207, adopted on August 6, 2026, for the purpose of amending Appendix 1 of the Code of Rules and Regulations of the Dallas-Fort Worth International Airport Board to reduce the posted speed limit on blocks 1500 through 3400 (north and south) of International Parkway from 55 miles per hour to 45 miles per hour - Financing: No cost consideration to the City (This item was deferred on September 9, 2026)] ITEM 50 IS AN ORDINANCE APPROVING DALLAS FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BOARD. RESOLUTION NUMBER 2 0 2 6 8 2 7 ADOPTED ON AUGUST 6TH, 2026 FOR THE PURPOSE OF AMENDING APPENDIX, ONE OF THE CODE OF RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE DALLAS-FORT WORTH INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT BOARD TO REDUCE THE POSTED SPEED LIMIT ON BLOCKS 1500 THROUGH 3,400 NORTH AND SOUTH OF INTERNATIONAL PARKWAY FROM 55 MILES PER PER HOUR TO 45 MILES PER HOUR. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION ITEM 52ND MOVED. AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM, [51. 26-2910A Authorize a Resident Company Use Agreement between (1) Cara Mia Theatre Co. (CMTC), as licensee, and the City of Dallas, as licensor; and (2) Teatro Hispano de Dallas (TD), a licensee, and the City of Dallas, as licensor, to enable CMTC and TD, individually and separately but on the same Use Agreement terms, to license the Latino Cultural Center multi-form theater and Oak Farms Dairy Performance hall and associated supporting spaces, at the Latino Cultural center for 12 to 20 weeks each annually, over a five-year term, for the period October 1, 2026 through September 30, 2031 (the “Initial Term”), with three five-year renewal options for the period October 1, 2031 through September 30, 2046, to carry out the City’s cultural public purpose in accordance with the Use Agreements - Estimated Annual Revenue: General Fund $36,000.00] AGENDA ITEM 51, AUTHORIZE A RESIDENT COMPANY USE AGREEMENT BETWEEN ONE CARMIA THEATER CO COMPANY CMTC AS LICENSEE AND THE CITY OF DALLAS AS LICENSEOR AND TWO TRO ESPAN D DALLAS TD, A LICENSEE AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. A LICENSEOR TO ENABLE CMTC AND TD INDIVIDUALLY AND SEPARATELY, BUT ON THE SAME USE AGREEMENT TERMS TO LICENSE THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, MULTIFORM THEATER AND OAK FARMS DAIRY PERFORMANCE HALL AND ASSOCIATED SUPPORTING SPACES AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER FOR 12 TO 20 WEEKS EACH ANNUALLY OVER A FIVE YEAR TERM FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2026 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2031. THE INITIAL TERM WITH THREE FIVE YEAR RENEWAL OPTIONS FOR THE PERIOD OCTOBER 1ST, 2031 THROUGH SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2046 TO CARRY OUT THE CITY'S CULTURAL PUBLIC PURPOSE IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE USE AGREEMENTS. YOU DO HAVE TWO INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. SARAH CARDONA AND DAVID LOZANO. BUT MS. CARDONA, YOU MAY COME FORWARD, YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. GOOD MORNING. [02:15:01] UM, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, I AM THE CURRENT DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR FOR THERO DALLAS AND FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND, UM, HAVE WORKED ON THIS WITH THE LCC AND OAC STAFF SINCE THE ORIGINAL RESOLUTION IN 2019. UH, I SAW THAT THE, UH, BENEFIT IN TERMS OF THE GENERAL FUND IS $36,000 AND I DON'T THINK THAT TELLS THE WHOLE STORY. SAY I WANT TO FILL IN AND REALLY GIVE YOU A SENSE OF THE IMPACT THAT OUR TWO THEATERS HAVE, NOT JUST FOR AUDIENCES IN DALLAS AND COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO FOR OUR ARTS ECOSYSTEM IN GENERAL. AND BEHIND ME, I HAVE, UM, A GROUP OF ARTISTS WHO ARE OUR FUTURE CULTURAL LEADERS. MANY OF THEM HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH BOTH OF OUR THEATERS, UH, FOR MANY YEARS AND ARE STEPPING INTO FUTURE LEADERSHIP ROLES. UM, SO OUR INITIAL RESIDENCY BEGAN WHEN WE RAISED COLLECTIVELY HALF A MILLION DOLLARS, UH, IN THE JOINT CAPITAL CAMPAIGN, WHICH WAS EXCEEDED. AND WE PROVIDED CAPITAL INVESTMENTS IN THE LCC TO OUTFIT, THE BLACK BOX THEATER WITH STATE-OF-THE-ART LIGHTS AND SOUND PACKAGES, AS WELL AS SEATING SOMETHING THAT EVERY ARTS GROUP, NOT JUST OURS, BENEFITS FROM WHEN THEY USE THE LCC COMBINED. TETRA DALLAS AND KAMIA HAVE 70 YEARS OF THEATER MANAGEMENT EXPERIENCE AND OUR THEATER COMPANIES TOGETHER PROVIDE ANNUALLY $700,000 WORTH OF PROGRAMMING AT THE LCC. AND FOR CONTEXT, UM, THE LCC STAFF HAS AN ANNUAL BUDGET OF A HUNDRED THOUSAND FOR ITS PROGRAMS. SO WE'RE BRINGING CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS OF, OF PROGRAMS THAT, UM, BENEFIT THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE NOT JUST AN ARTS GROUP PROVIDING THEATER, UH, THOUGH WE DO SERVE THOUSANDS OF AUDIENCES EVERY YEAR. WE PROVIDE A REASON FOR TALENT TO STAY IN DALLAS. UM, 40 YEARS WE'VE TRAINED AND PROVIDED AN ENTIRE NEW GENERATION OF THEATER LEADERS WHO CURRENTLY RIGHT NOW HEAD UP AT LEAST FOUR OF THE OTHER THEATER COMPANIES, PROFESSIONAL THEATERS IN DALLAS. AND WE PRAY, UH, PROVIDE, UM, WELL-PAID WORK FOR OUR ARTISTS. AND WE HAVE WORKFORCE TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR DESIGNED FOR LOW INCOME YOUNG ADULTS THAT HAVE, I HAVE DOCUMENTED RESULTS, UM, UH, OF JOB PLACEMENT AND COLLEGE READINESS PROGRAMS THAT WE PROVIDE. AND THEY'VE BEEN, UM, ENTERING REGIONAL COLLEGES AND THE ARTS PROGRAMS. WE PROVIDE AN INTERNATIONAL THEATER THEATER FESTIVAL, A NEW DIRECTORS FESTIVAL THAT IS SUPPORTED BY THE TCA CULTURAL DISTRICT FUNDS AND RECOGNITION OF OUR CULTURAL TOURISM CONTRIBUTIONS, ATTRACTING VISITORS FROM ACROSS THE STATE, FROM ACROSS THE UNITED STATES AND GLOBALLY. BECAUSE OUR FESTIVAL IS INTERNATIONAL, IT IS THE OLDEST IN THE SOUTHWEST AND WE CONNECT OUR ARTISTS DIRECTLY WITH OTHER COUNTRIES, UM, THROUGH PROGRAMS WHEN WE TAKE THEM ABROAD. OUR RESIDENCY AT THE LCC SUPPORTS OUR GROWTH AND STABILITY AND OUR ABILITY TO PROVIDE FOR THE COMMUNITY IN THE FUTURE. THAT'S YOUR TIME. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CAN I JUST ALLOW THEM TO STAND UP? I WANT TO RECOGNIZE THEM BECAUSE THEY'VE BEEN HERE TO SUPPORT US. SURE. GO AHEAD. STAND UP, LET US SEE YOU. OH, IT'S EVERYBODY . OKAY. THANK YOU. DAVID LOZANO. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS DAVID LOZANO AND I'M THE EXECUTIVE ARTISTIC DIRECTOR OF ACADEMY OF THEATER. AND I WANT TO THANK THIS COUNCIL AND THE QUALITY OF LIFE COMMITTEE IN PARTICULAR FOR YOUR SUPPORT. AND WE'RE VERY HAPPY TO BE HERE, UH, TALKING ABOUT THIS RESOLUTION. AND I DO WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT TO THANK THE STAFF THAT REALLY PUT IN OVERTIME TO GET THIS RESOLUTION TOGETHER FOR THIS MEETING. SO, UH, WE ARE VERY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. THIS IS, UH, IN, IN 2019. THIS COUNCIL MADE HISTORY BECAUSE WITH OUR RESIDENCIES AT THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, WE PUT OURSELVES ON PAR, THE CITY OF DALLAS AND THE CITY OF DALLAS OFFICE OF ARTS AND CULTURE. WE PUT OURSELVES ON PAR WITH LOS ANGELES AND WITH NEW YORK CITY, WITH TWO COMPANIES LIKE OURS AS RESIDENTS OF CITY ARTS FACILITIES. AND THIS IS UNIQUE IN THE UNITED STATES AND THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO CONTINUE THIS RESIDENCY AND THIS KIND OF WORK IN DALLAS. I DO, UH, UH, SADA SAID A A LOT OF THE THINGS THAT I WAS GOING TO SAY, BUT I DO WANT TO MENTION THE MUTUAL BENEFIT OF THIS RESIDENCY FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS IN THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER. WHAT SADA IS TALKING ABOUT IN TERMS OF THE INVESTMENT THAT WE PUT INTO THE PROGRAMMING OF THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER, IT'S SIGNIFICANT WITH THE NUMBER OF WEEKS THAT WE'RE PERFORMING THERE. FOR EXAMPLE, KAMIA THEATER THIS FISCAL YEAR WILL INVEST HALF A MILLION DOLLARS OF PROGRAMMING AND THIS SUPPORTS THE A HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS OF PROGRAMMING ALLOCATED TO THE LCC STAFF. SO THIS IS A GREAT PARTNERSHIP [02:20:01] THAT BRINGS AMONG OTHER THINGS AN INTERNATIONAL THEATER FESTIVAL. I'M CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT OTHER CITY ARTS FACILITY IN THE COUNTRY HAS TWO INTERNATIONAL THEATER FESTIVALS BETWEEN OUR TWO GROUPS. OUR FESTIVAL IS THE LARGEST IN NORTH TEXAS AND WE ARE ALSO BRINGING IN, UH, SEVERAL GROUPS, INC. AND SO, SO FAR WE'VE SOLD, WE'VE UH, BEEN ABLE TO TRACK OVER 175 HOTEL ROOMS, NIGHTS STAYS IN LESS THAN THREE WEEKS UP TO NOW WHEN THE FESTIVAL HASN'T EVEN BEGUN. SO WE'RE BRINGING TOURISM AND PEOPLE FROM AROUND THE CITY, FROM AROUND THE, UH, OUTSIDE OF THE CITY, THE STATE, NATIONALLY AND INTERNATIONALLY. I ALSO WANNA MENTION THAT WE SERVE THOUSANDS OF STUDENTS EVERY YEAR. WE HAVE STRONG PARTNERSHIP, ESPECIALLY WITH DALLAS ISD, BUT ALSO WE'RE DEVELOPING ONE WITH IRVING ISD AND WE'RE BRINGING THEM TO THE LATINO CULTURAL CENTER FOR WORKSHOPS AND PERFORMANCES. AND WITH THAT SAID, WE ARE READY TO, UH, MOVE FORWARD AND WE ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN VOTING FOR THIS RESOLUTION AND PROVIDING A HOME FOR OUR TWO THEATERS SO THAT WE CONTINUE TO GROW AND WE CONTINUE TO HELP THE LCC GROW AND BE AND MAINTAIN ITS STATUS AS A NATIONAL DESTINATION FOR THEATER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR A MOTION? ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED. AND SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT [52. 26-2898A Authorize the City Manager to enter into an agreement with an international sports organization to provide for the City of Dallas’ participation in and support of a future major international sporting event initiative, including planning, coordination, public safety, transportation, use of City facilities, and other municipal services as necessary, approved as to form by the City Attorney - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information)] ITEM, AGENDA ITEM 52. AUTHORIZE THE CITY MANAGER TO ENTER INTO AN AGREEMENT WITH AN INTERNATIONAL SPORTS ORGANIZATION TO PROVIDE FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS PARTICIPATION IN AND SUPPORT OF A FUTURE MAJOR INTERNATIONAL SPORTING EVENT INITIATIVE, INCLUDING PLANNING, COORDINATION, PUBLIC SAFETY, TRANSPORTATION, USE OF CITY, CITY FACILITIES, AND OTHER MUNICIPAL SERVICES AS NECESSARY. APPROVED AS THE FORM BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. THIS IS YOUR ITEM, MR. MAYOR, FOR A MOTION MOVE FOR MOVE TO APPROVE. SECOND MR. MOVED. SECOND DISCUSSION. CHAIRMAN, WE, I'M GONNA ASK, UH, YES, YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. ASK DIRECTOR FLEMING TO COME UP, EXPLAIN THIS ITEM. GOOD MORNING. ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICE. SO THIS IS A FUTURE ITEM SIMILAR TO FIFA THAT OFFERS US AN OPPORTUNITY TO MARKET THE CITY IN A, IN A LARGE WAY. ALL RIGHT. ARE YOU ABLE TO GIVE US ANY MORE DETAILS AT THIS POINT OR WHEN WILL WE BE ABLE TO DISCUSS THIS PUBLICLY? SO WE CAN UM, WE CAN ACTUALLY TALK AB I'LL BRING ADDITIONAL ITEMS BACK IN THE FUTURE. THERE'S NO COST FOR THIS. THE INITIAL AGREEMENT, WHICH IS PRIMARILY FOR PLANNING AN AGREEMENT TO PLAN AND THEN WE'LL BRING SEVERAL ITEMS BACK. SIMILAR TO HOW WE DID THE FEE FOR PROCESS, WE DID AN INITIAL AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWED US TO DISCUSS AND PLAN IT OUT. AND THEN WE BROUGHT BACK ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH LOGISTICS AND ANYTHING THAT HAD TO DO WITH COST TO COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. SO IF THERE'S ANY COST BEFORE THERE'S ANY INCURRENCE OF COST BY THE CITY, WE WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY AS COUNSEL TO, TO WEIGH IN ON THAT. ABSOLUTELY. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MINIMUM FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. MY QUESTION IS ALSO ABOUT COST. SO WE OFTEN HAVE AGENDA ITEMS THAT SAY NO COST CONSIDERATION TO THE CITY. AND I FREQUENTLY OBJECT SAYING, OF COURSE THERE'S A COST. YOU'RE SPENDING TIME EVEN PRESENTING THIS. IT WAS PUT ON OUR AGENDA, THERE'S TIME SPENT. HOW CAN YOU SAY THERE'S NO COST CONSIDERATION? WELL, FOR THIS PARTICULAR ITEM, THERE'S NOT A COST ATTACHED. IT HAS TO BE ENCUMBERED. THIS IS A PLANNING AGREEMENT WHERE WE GO FORWARD AND THEN ALLOW POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO BE MADE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD AFTER WE HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH THE ORGANIZATION WITH WHICH WE'RE PLANNING. AND SO THE PEOPLE DOING THE PLANNING WORK FOR THE CITY, IS THAT CORRECT? YES MA'AM. AND THEY'RE PAID BY THE CITY? ABSOLUTELY. SO HOW IS THERE NO COST CONSIDERATION? BECAUSE IT'S IN A NORMAL DELIVERY OF OUR DAY-TO-DAY JOB. SO MY JOB OBVIOUSLY IS TO BRING IN TOURISM AND HOSPITALITY TO THE CITY. SO THIS FALLS WITHIN THAT. SO IT'S WITHIN THE NORMAL, UH, PARAMETERS OF MY JOB. SO IF THIS WASN'T GOING FORWARD, YOU'D HAVE NO CHANGE OF STAFF, NO CHANGE IN EXPENSES IF IT DIDN'T GO FORWARD, CORRECT? MM-HMM . BUT NOW YOU'RE GONNA HAVE THIS ADDITIONAL RESPONSIBILITY AND NOT NEED ADDITIONAL STAFF OR PRIMARILY AS WITH FIFA? THIS WOULD BE DONE THROUGH OUR CONTRACTUAL RELATIONSHIP WITH VISIT DALLAS AND THE VISIT DALLAS SPORTS COMMISSION. AND [02:25:01] SO IT WOULD BE, UM, WITHIN THEIR WHEELHOUSE TO BE ABLE TO PUT TOGETHER COMMITTEES AND THE FUNDRAISING AND SPONSORSHIP, ET CETERA THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A LARGER, SO SINCE WE MANAGED VISIT DALLAS ALREADY, CONTRACTUALLY, IT WOULDN'T CHANGE THE TONE OF WHAT WE DO WITH THEM CURRENTLY. SO I'M JUST GONNA SAY, UM, I APPRECIATE, UM, CHAIRMAN WEST BRIEFING ME ON WHAT THE SITUATION IS. I'M SUPPORTIVE OF IT, BUT I JUST FIND IT VERY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT WE PUT THESE ITEMS AS NO COST CONSIDERATION AND WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN IS IT'S GONNA MOVE DOWN THE ROAD. WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO SAY YES 'CAUSE WE WILL HAVE ALREADY SUBMITTED APPLICATIONS, THINGS WILL HAVE HAPPENED, THERE WILL BE A COST TO OUR CITY. ABSOLUTELY THERE WILL BE A COST IF WE GET IT, IF IT ALL HAPPENS. AND I JUST THINK IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT TO, TO SAY THAT. WHY DON'T WE JUST SAY WHAT THE COST WOULD BE? AND THAT'S, THAT'S MY CONCERN WITH THIS ITEM. I'M GONNA VOTE FOR IT. I HOPE IT ALL HAPPENS, BUT I WISH THAT WE WOULD POST THINGS WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE, UM, UM, CLARITY OF WHAT THE ACTUAL EXPENSES ARE ASSOCIATED WITH THEM. THANK YOU. DEPUTY MAYOR PROAM, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES IF YOU'RE STILL THERE. THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. UM, DIDN'T HEAR A LOT OF THE CONVERSATION, UH, MI ROSA, CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHAT THIS IS AS THE NEW CHAIR OF THE PROFESSIONAL SPORTS? I, I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT THIS. UM, WHAT IS THIS ITEM SUGGESTING? IT, IT, IT JUST, IT CAME ACROSS A LITTLE VAGUE AND SO I WAS TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION ON IT. ABSOLUTELY. SO IT IS A PLANNING AGREEMENT TO WORK WITH AN ORGANIZATION THAT'S GOING TO BRING SOMETHING SIMILAR TO FIFA, NOT AS MANY DAYS A SHORTER TERM. UM, BUT PART OF THE AGREEMENT ASKED THAT WE GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO ANNOUNCE THE ACTUAL NAME OF THE EVENT. AND SO AS A CROSS COUNTRY EVENT. AND SO WE ASKED AND RECEIVED GUIDANCE FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY ON HOW WE COULD ACHIEVE THAT. AND WE FOLLOWED ALL THOSE STEPS. BUT ANY ADDITIONAL ITEMS THAT COME THROUGH THAT HAVE TO DO WITH PLANNING COST OR ANYTHING ELSE, WE'LL COME BACK TO THIS BODY FOR A POLICY RECOMMENDATION OR AN UPDATE SIMILAR TO HOW WE DID WITH FIFA, WHERE WE UPDATED BY MEMO OR BY THROUGH A BRIEFING QUARTERLY SO THAT YOU ALL WERE AWARE OF WHAT WAS GOING ON STEP BY STEP AS WE PROCEEDED. AND YOU SAID, UH, AN ORGANIZATION. DO YOU, IS THERE ANY PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION, UH, THAT YOU GUYS ARE WORKING WITH? SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAME THROUGH TO US THROUGH VISIT DALLAS. WE WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE THE NAME, I BELIEVE, UM, THROUGH TOMA IN AN EXECUTIVE SESSION IF WE WERE TO PROVIDE THE NAME MR. MAYOR. OKAY. I'LL MR. MAYOR, I WANTED TO ADD A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIM, UM, JOHNSON, WHO I KNOW IS ALSO THE CHAIR OF THE, UM, THE, THE SPORTS AD HOC COMMITTEE, UH, UM, DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON. OFTENTIMES, UM, WHEN WE ARE WORKING AND IN COMPETITION, UM, WITH OTHER, UH, POTENTIAL, UM, LOCATIONS OR CITIES, WE ARE ASKED, UH, DURING THE TIME THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH A COMPETITIVE PROCESS, UH, TO MAINTAIN, UM, CERTAIN INFORMATION, UM, IN A WAY THAT IT DOES NOT JEOPARDIZE, UH, THE POTENTIAL FOR THEM TO NEGOTIATE AND BE ABLE TO, UM, MAKE THEIR SELECTION. SO WE HAVE TO TREAT THIS IN A LOT OF WAYS AS IF IT'S AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, UM, OPPORTUNITY, WHICH IS WHY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO GO INTO A LOT MORE DETAIL THAN WHAT'S PRESENTED ON THE AGENDA ITEM. IT IS NOT TO, UH, SUGGEST THAT STAFF IS NOT BEING TRANSPARENT, BUT THIS OFTEN COMES TO US IN THIS FASHION WHEN WE'RE COMPETING WITH OTHER CITIES. AND SO IN THIS PARTICULAR ONE, THIS IS TO ALLOW FOR US TO BEGIN THE PLANNING WORK AS COSTS ARE IDENTIFIED AS WE DID WITH FIFA. WE WILL BE BRINGING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL ONCE WE KNOW THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE SELECTED. UH, BUT UNTIL WE KNOW THAT IT IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR US TO GO THROUGH A COMPLETE COMPREHENSIVE REVIEW OF WHAT COST MIGHT BE. UM, AND SO WE WILL BE WORKING, UM, OVER THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, UH, AND HOPEFULLY WE WILL GET MORE CLARITY AND MORE INFORMATION, UM, FROM THIS PARTICULAR ORGANIZATION. AND WE WILL BRING A MORE IN-DEPTH CONVERSATION TO, UM, TO YOUR COMMITTEE. UM, SO COUNCIL CAN ASK QUESTIONS BEFORE YOU'RE ASKED TO MOVE US FORWARD IN SPENDING ANY TYPES OF FUNDS THAT WOULD SUPPORT, UM, THIS PARTICULAR, UM, OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. SO WE ARE TREATING IT AS WE'VE DONE MANY TIMES BEFORE. UM, WE HAD SOME HICCUPS, UH, WHEN WE CAME WITH OUR DALLAS, UM, AS COUNCIL MIGHT RECALL THE DALLAS WINGS ANNOUNCEMENT, WE WERE TOLD TO, TO HOLD [02:30:01] THAT TIGHT AND WE DID SOME CONVERSATIONS AND THEN A COUPLE OF DAYS LATER IT WAS ON THE FRONT PAGE OF THE NEWSPAPER. SO WE HAVE BEEN ASKED TO HOLD TIGHT AND THAT'S WHAT WE WANNA BE ABLE TO DO SO WE CAN CONTINUE TO COMPETE EFFECTIVELY. SO THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTIONS. THANK THANK YOU CITY MANAGER FOR EXPLAINING THAT THAT WAS PRETTY MUCH WHAT I WAS TRYING TO GET TO, WHY I WAS SO VAGUE. UM, AND AT A 900 I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THE, THE, THE, THE AGENDA ITEM. UH, BUT I APPRECIATE YOU NOW UNDERSTANDING. THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MAYOR. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST GEN ITEM 52? SAY NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? A HAVE IT MADAM [53. 26-2940A Authorize the Second Amendment to the Management Agreement with Global Spectrum, LP to extend the term of the agreement for an additional five-month period beyond September 30, 2026, and to revise Section 1.02 of the Agreement to state the initial term shall expire as of 11:59 p.m., February 26, 2027, unless terminated earlier, in an amount not to exceed $2,529,646.00 for staff and operations and a management fee in an amount not to exceed $145,833.00 - Total not to exceed $2,675,479.00 - Financing: Convention and Event Services Fund] SECRETARY AGENDA ITEM 53, AUTHORIZE THE SECOND AMENDMENT TO THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WITH GLOBAL SPECTRUM LP TO EXTEND THE TERM OF THE AGREEMENT FOR AN ADDITIONAL FIVE MONTH PERIOD BEYOND SEPTEMBER 30TH, 2026. AND TO REVISE SECTION 1.02 OF THE AGREEMENT TO STATE THE INITIAL TERM SHALL EXPIRE AS OF 11:59 PM FEBRUARY 26TH, 2027, UNLESS TERMINATED EARLIER IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $2,529,646 FOR STAFF AND OPERATIONS AND A MANAGEMENT FEE IN AN AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $145,833. TOTAL NOT TO EXCEED $2,675,479. THIS IS YOUR ITEM MR. MAYOR, LOOKING FOR MOTION 53. MOTION FOR APPROVAL. SECOND. ALRIGHT, IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? YES, CHAIR. YOU HAVE FIVE MINUTES. UH, ROSA. SO, UH, THIS IS FOR SERVICES, UM, AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. THANK YOU. ROSA FLEMING, DIRECTOR OF CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES AND YES, IT IS FOR SERVICES AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. OKAY, SO RIGHT NOW WE'RE HAVING REDUCED CONVENTIONS, SMALLER FOOTPRINT. SO WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS ORGANIZATION PREVIOUSLY, UH, AT DIFFERENT VENUES. NOT THE BEST TRACK RECORD IN MY OPINION. WHAT ARE WE GONNA DO TO ENSURE THAT WE'RE NOT LEFT WITH INVOICES AND RECEIPTS THAT ARE UNPAID? WHAT SORT OF AUDIT IT'S GONNA BE CONDUCTED? AND THEN HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE TRANSITION PERIOD AGAIN, UNDERSTANDING THAT THE CONVENTION CENTER, UM, IS UNDER CONSTRUCTION. YES, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. SO THE CONVENTION CENTER TO YOUR, TO YOUR POINT IS BEING REDUCED TO A FUNCTIONAL SQUARE FOOTAGE OF 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF EXHIBITION HALL, UH, 30 MEETING ROOMS AND TWO DIVISIBLE BALLROOM. SO WE'LL BE ABLE TO USE THAT FOR THE INTERIM AS WE ERECT THE, THE NEW CENTER. AND SO WITH THAT COMES AN OBLIGATION FROM STAFF TO BE ABLE TO COME TO COUNCIL AND SAY THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE ASSIGNED TO OBG, CURRENTLY HAVE THOSE REASSIGNED TO THE CITY AT A, AT A RATE THAT IS COMMENSURATE WITH 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF FUNCTIONAL SPACE BECAUSE NOW WE'LL HAVE A FUNCTIONAL CONVENTION CENTER THAT IS THE SIZE OF A PITTSBURGH OR A FORT WORTH VERSUS THE 2 MILLION SQUARE FOOT ONE WE HAD BEFORE. AND SO AS WE GO THROUGH, WE AUDIT EACH FILE, WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THE EVENTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY BOOKED INTO THAT COMPRESSED SPACE, WHAT THOSE LOOK LIKE, LOOK AT THE CONTRACTS. IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE DO ANYWAY, WE HAVE A PRETTY HEFTY CONTRACT COMPLIANCE GROUP WITHIN OUR STAFF AND WE'VE PASSED EVERY AUDIT RELATIVE TO THE CONVENTION CENTER TO DATE BECAUSE WE DO, UH, CO OFFICE WITH THEM AND HAVE CONTINUOUS INTERACTION WITH THEM, WHICH IS A, A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT THAN HOW THE OTHER CONTRACT WAS STRUCTURED. AND SO WE'LL PROVIDE AN UPDATE TO COUNSEL AS WE MOVE FORWARD ACROSS THOSE FIVE MONTHS. OKAY. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M LOOKING FOR AS WELL IS MM-HMM . WHAT SORT OF NEGOTIATION OR CHARGES WILL BE PUT FORWARD OR TO, YOU KNOW, THESE GROUPS USED TO, WHETHER IT'S JANITORIAL OR WHETHER IT'S UH, PUTTING UP SIGNAGE OR, OR WHATEVER IT MIGHT BE, IS THEY'RE NOW HAVE A MUCH SMALLER FOOTPRINT. AND SO ARE WE GONNA BE PAYING 'EM THE SAME ARE AMOUNTS? THAT IS, THAT'S THE REQUEST FOR THE FIVE MONTH EXTENSION IS SO THAT THOSE CONTRACTS ARE CURRENTLY ASSIGNED TO OAKVIEW GROUP. AND SO WE'LL NEED TO NEGOTIATE DOWN THE EXISTING CONTRACTS, WHICH ARE FOR THE MOST PART COMING UP FOR, UH, FOR TERM THEY'RE TERMING OUT ANYWAY. AND SO WE'LL NEGOTIATE DOWN MAGS, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, MAXIMUM GUARANTEES AND ALL OF THAT DOWN TO THAT SMALLER [02:35:01] FOOTPRINT. AND SO A SAVINGS TO THE CITY, A SAVINGS TO THE CONVENTION EVENT CENTER, UH, BUDGET AS WELL. AND SO WE'LL HAVE THEM, WE'LL TAKE THEIR CONTRACTS APART, BUT THAT TAKES SOME TIME TO DO. UH, SO THAT'S WHAT THE REQUEST IS FOR THE FIVE MONTH EXTENSION. OKAY. WELL, I EXPECT, UH, OUR DUE DILIGENCE TO, TO BE, UH, PUT IN HERE. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE AVOID, UH, SITUATIONS THAT WE'VE BEEN IN PREVIOUSLY, BUT THAT WE STILL ALLOW FOR A TRANSITION PERIOD TO BE ABLE TO CONTINUE, UH, HAVING OUR, OUR CONVENTIONS. 'CAUSE WE, WE ARE HAVING CONVENTIONS. I MEAN, I KNOW THAT WE HAD ONE, UH, AT LEAST A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. UM, AND SO THEY ARE HAPPENING. AND SO, UH, I HOPE THAT, UH, WE ARE ABLE TO IMPLEMENT THOSE AUDITS SO THAT WE ARE NOT LEFT ON THE HOOK, UH, FOR INVOICES THAT ARE UNPAID FOR. THANK YOU. ABSOLUTELY. MS. MENDELSON, YOU WRITE US FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, THE TRUTH IS THAT WITH ALL OF THE THINGS DISCUSSED ABOUT THIS VENDOR, I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY OF THEM COME FROM EXECUTIVE SESSION AND HOW MANY OF THEM ARE PUBLIC, BUT I KNOW THAT MY OPINION IS FORMED FROM THE COMBINATION OF BOTH. AND SO I WILL JUST SAY THERE'S NO WAY I'M GONNA SUPPORT DOING ANYTHING WITH THIS VENDOR BASED ON THEIR INTEGRITY, THE LACK OF RECORDS BEING TURNED OVER TO FAIR PARK VENDORS LEFT UNPAID, AND THE MAINTENANCE THAT WAS NOT DONE. THESE ARE ALL IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN AND IT'S OUTRAGEOUS TO THINK WE WOULD REWARD ANYBODY WITH A SINGLE DOLLAR AFTER THAT KIND OF PERFORMANCE. AND I WOULD LIKE A RECORD VOTE AND I WILL BE VOTING. NO THANK YOU CHAIR. RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. SO ROSA, WHAT IS THE LONG-TERM PLAN FOR THE PROCUREMENT OF THESE SERVICES BEYOND THIS FIVE MONTH EXTENSION? ARE YOU GOING TO BE PUTTING THIS CONTRACT OUT, UH, FOR BIDS FROM ALTERNATIVE VENDORS? SO THE LONG-TERM PLAN, WE'LL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL AS WE WORK TOWARDS THAT FIVE MONTH PERIOD, BUT WE'LL BE RETURNING, UM, MY TEAM TO SOME OF THIS WORK AS WELL AS TURNING OVER THE, SO IN THE CONTRACT THERE'S A LONG TERM, WHAT ARE CALLED CITY-WIDES THAT ARE SOLD BY VISIT DALLAS, WHO ARE HERE TODAY. UM, AND THEN THERE'S A SHORTER TERM THAT ARE SOLD BY OVG. AND SO WHAT WE'LL DO IS TURN THAT SHORTER TERM, THAT'S THE PLAN OVER TO VISIT DALLAS. SO WE'LL HAVE TO BRING THAT ACTION BACK TO COUNCIL IN ORDER FOR YOU TO APPROVE THAT WITHIN THAT FIVE MONTH PERIOD. AND SO WE WANNA AUDIT AND MAKE SURE ALL OF THOSE SMALLER EVENTS THAT ARE TYPICALLY FILL EVENTS IN BETWEEN THE LARGER EVENTS ARE THAT WE'VE LOOKED AT ALL OF THEM AND MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE NOT MISSED ANYTHING IN TERMS OF THE SERVICES THAT ARE DELIVERED AT THE BUILDING. YOU'RE LOOKING AT FOOD SERVICE, RIGGING, TECHNICAL, AND AV, SO TECHNOLOGY AND AV, UH, AS WELL AS JANITORIAL AND PARKING, WHICH ARE THE FIVE MAJOR REVENUE SOURCES. AND THEN THERE ARE ADDITIONAL SMALLER CONTRACTS THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE DELIVERY OF HVAC AND THE THINGS THAT MAKE THE BUILDING FUNCTION AND FUNCTIONAL. AND SO WE'LL NEGOTIATE THOSE TO THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT LONG TERM. IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE NEW BUILDING, YES, THERE ARE RFPS THAT WILL GO OUT INTO THE COMMUNITY TO PROCURE SERVICES FOR THE NEW BUILDING. WELL, I AM CONCERNED FOR THE SAME REASONS THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN IS ABOUT THE PERFORMANCE OF OVG FOR THIS CITY, AND I'M NOT PREPARED TO EXTEND OUR SERVICES BEYOND THIS FIVE MONTH PERIOD. SO I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU USE THAT PERIOD TO TRANSITION TO AN ALTERNATE VENDOR WHO CAN BE A RESPONSIBLE SERVICE PROVIDER TO THE CITY. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR JOHNSON. UM, I TOO AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN. UH, WE'VE HAD EXPERIENCES HERE THAT, UM, WELL WE WON'T GO, WE WON'T GO BACK OVER THEM, BUT THEY, THEY'RE NOT GOOD. AND WE WERE LEFT WITH INVOICES AND, UM, A LOT OF THINGS THAT, UM, WOULD INFORM THIS BODY REALLY TO NOT PURSUE ANOTHER CONTRACT. BUT THERE, THERE'S SOMETHING UNIQUE HERE AS I UNDERSTAND IT. AND IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN WHY SHOULD WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS FIVE MONTHS? ABSOLUTELY. AND SO IT WAS TWO SEPARATE CONTRACTS. THE CONTRACT WITH FAIR PARK WAS NOT BUNDLED WITH THIS ONE. AND SO THE MANAGEMENT OF THE CONTRACT TOOK PLACE AND THE NATURE OF THE MANAGEMENT AGREEMENT WAS DIFFERENT. WE CO-OPED WITH THEM. WE, UM, HAD CONTINUOUS MEETINGS WITH THEM WEEKLY, MONTHLY, AND QUARTERLY. WE ASKED FOR WEEKLY REPORTS FROM THEM, WHICH THEY HAVE ALWAYS [02:40:01] PROVIDED, AND WE HAD DOUBLE DUE DILIGENCE ON HOW WE LOOKED AT THE FINANCIALS WITH THEM. AND SO THE, THE NATURE OF CONTRACT COMPLIANCE ISSUES DIDN'T PERSIST AT THE CONVENTION CENTER. AND WE'VE SUCCESSFULLY PASSED AUDITS ALL THE WAY THROUGH, UM, AT THE CONVENTION CENTER RELATIVE TO OUR FINANCES RELATIVE TO HOW WE FUNCTION. AND SO I THINK IT WAS JUST THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WAY THE TWO AGREEMENTS WERE, WERE WRITTEN. I CAN'T SPEAK TO THE ACTUAL DIFFERENCES, BUT IN TERMS OF THE PERFORMANCE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER VERSUS FAIR PARK, IT WAS JUST DIFF DIFFERENT BECAUSE OF THE CONTRACT COMPLIANCE ADDITIVES THAT WE HAD. WELL, IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE WERE VERY DIFFERENT APPROACHES BETWEEN THE TWO. UM, BUT I THINK WHAT HAPPENED AT FAIR PARK HAS REALLY, UM, IMPACTED OUR TRUST WITH RESPECT TO THE COMPANY. I MEAN, IT, IT JUST HAS, IT'S VERY HARD TO LOOK AWAY FROM THAT AND SAY, UM, THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN AND, UM, YOU DIDN'T LEAVE US HOLDING THE BAG AND INVOICES UNPAID AND ALL OF THAT. SO I, I, UM, WOULD, AT THE END OF THE FIVE MONTHS, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THIS PARTICULAR VENDOR FOR, WOULD YOU RENEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH THEM FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER? I THINK I'D LIKE TO BRING BACK A PLAN THAT INVOLVES, UM, THAT INVOLVES WHAT WE REALLY NEED FOR A 300,000 SQUARE FOOT FACILITY. AND SO AT PRESENT, I THINK WE'RE TRANSITIONING IMMEDIATELY AS SOON AS WE CAN GET BACK TO COUNCIL WITH AN ITEM, THE ACTUAL SALES, THAT'S THE BIGGER PART OF IT. AND THEN AS WE TAKE APART AND UNPACK THE COLLATERAL CONTRACTS, THEN WE'LL COME BACK AND UPDATE, UPDATE. COUNCIL, COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART, I JUST WANTED TO ADD, AND THANK YOU FOR THAT ANSWER. UM, DIRECTOR FLEMMINGS, I THINK BECAUSE WE UNDERSTAND THE, UH, THE UNIQUENESS OF WHAT OUR NEW CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO PROVIDE WHEN IT COMES TO OPPORTUNITY, UM, I THINK WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT WE'VE, UM, LOOKED AT OUR CURRENT ENVIRONMENT GOING FORWARD AND THAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK A THE BEST POSSIBLE DECISION ON WHAT, WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AND WHO IT SHOULD BE. UM, AND SO I THINK AS I'VE TALKED TO THE TEAM, I THINK WE REALLY WANNA DO A COMPLETE EXPLORATION OF THE MARKET AND WE WANT TO ENSURE THAT THE NEEDS THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE, UM, TO REALLY MAKE, WE KNOW THAT THIS CONVENTION CENTER IS GOING TO TRULY BE AN ECONOMIC ENGINE, UM, FOR, UM, THE CITY THAT WE'RE BRINGING BACK A, UM, A, A A A SELECTED VENDOR, UM, THAT WILL BE ABLE TO HELP US MOVE THAT FORWARD. SO RIGHT NOW WE CAN'T SAY WHO IT WILL BE, UM, BUT I THINK WE WANNA GO THROUGH A VERY, UM, DETAILED, COMPREHENSIVE PROCESS LOOKING AT OUR NEEDS. WE KNOW THE ROLE THAT VISIT DALLAS PLAY, UH, AS A PARTNER TO THE CITY, BUT I THINK WE WANT TO GO BACK AND MAKE SURE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK, WE CAN BRING YOU WHAT WE BELIEVE IS OUR PATH FORWARD WITH THE BEST PARTNERSHIP THROUGH ANOTHER VENDOR. DON'T KNOW IF IT'LL BE THIS VENDOR OR NOT. UM, WE KNOW WE'VE HEARD A LOT OF COMMENTS AND CONCERNS, BUT WE ALSO DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A MAJOR DISRUPTION AND WE DON'T HAVE ALL THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS TRANSITION, UM, UM, AS EFFICIENT AS IT SHOULD. SO THAT'S THE REASON WHY WE WERE REQUESTING JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME TO MAKE SURE WE'VE GOT ALL OF OUR DOCUMENTATION, WE KNOW WHAT WHAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE PIPELINE AND WE DON'T MISS THINGS THAT WE KNOW, UM, WOULD TAKE US IN THE DIRECTION THAT WE WERE AT FAIR PARK. SO THAT'S THE REASON FOR THE EXTENSION TODAY. SO I UNDERSTAND TRANSITION AND I UNDERSTAND THAT'S WHERE WE ARE AND YOU NEED FIVE MONTHS, BUT IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD WITH ANYTHING THAT'S LONG TERM, UM, OBG WILL HAVE TO RESTORE TRUST, THEY WILL HAVE TO RESTORE TRUST. AND, UM, IF WE NEED TO START ARTICULATING WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE, WE COULD PROBABLY DO THAT. BUT, BUT THERE ARE SOME SIGNIFICANT STEPS. THERE WERE SO MANY MISSTEPS AND MISTAKES WITH FAIR PARK AND I THINK, AGAIN, INVOICES THAT THE CITY HAD TO PICK UP. SO MY MESSAGE TO OBG IS IF YOU WANT A LONG-TERM CONTRACT WITH THE CITY, YOU HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO RESTORE THAT TRUST. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. CHAIRMAN WILLIS ED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. SO YOU JUST POINTED OUT THIS IS A SEPARATE CONTRACT THAN WHAT WAS HELD AT FAIR PARK AND IT'S SEPARATE STAFF TOO THAT YOU'RE WORKING WITH. ABSOLUTELY. SEPARATE STAFF. OKAY. COMPLETELY SEPARATE TEAM. SO I THINK WE'RE ALL DUBIOUS ABOUT ANYTHING HAVING TO DO WITH OVG. IT'S IRONIC TO ME THAT SPECTRA REBRANDS TO OVG AND NOW THEY'VE PRETTY MUCH TANKED THEIR NAME IN DALLAS AND WITH THIS BODY BY THE BEHAVIOR THAT WE SAW AT FAIR PARK. UM, HOWEVER, I WAS VERY EXCITED. I THINK WE WERE VERY EXCITED AT FINANCE COMMITTEE TO HA UH, YOU KNOW, TALK ABOUT THE CONVENTION CENTER STAYING ONLINE FOR TWO MORE [02:45:01] YEAR THROUGH ALMOST THREE MORE YEARS WITH OUR 300,000 SQUARE FEET OF SPACE. AND THAT ACTUALLY THAT'S MAKES US A SECOND TIER, UH, TYPE OF CONVENTION CENTER WITH FORT WORTH AND SAN JOSE. AND YOU, YOU NAMED A FEW OTHERS. AND SO WHEN WE THOUGHT WE WERE NOT GOING TO BE HAVING THOSE VISITORS AND THAT SALES TAX REVENUE, ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GET A LITTLE BIT OF A LIGHT SAYING, YES, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE THAT. AND SO I WOULD BE VERY CONCERNED AT GOING INTO A FREE FALL OVER A FIVE MONTH CONTRACT WITH A DIFFERENT GROUP, WITH A GROUP THAT HAS A DIFFERENT CONTRACT AND IT'S A DIFFERENT STAFF. IN FACT, I REMEMBER WHEN ALL OF THIS CAME ABOUT AT FAIR PARK, THAT CONCERN THAT VISIT DALLAS HAD BECAUSE THEY SAID THIS IS TWO SEPARATE TEAMS AND THE TEAM WE HAVE AT THE CONVENTION CENTER IS DOING A REALLY GOOD JOB. NOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD EVER BE ENOUGH TO CARRY THEM THROUGH INTO THE FUTURE BECAUSE WE ALL HAVE CONCERNS WITH THAT, THAT FIRM AND THE CONDUCT, BUT, UH, IT SEEMS LIKE THIS COULD DO DALLAS MORE HARM THAN GOOD TO LET THIS LAPSE. AND WHAT THE ANSWER IS HERE IS OVERSIGHT. AND YOU TALKED ABOUT AUDIT AND, AND THAT SORT OF THING. SO WE'VE GOTTA HAVE THAT OVERSIGHT. AND INDEED OVERSIGHT IS WHAT GOT US INTO THIS REPUTATIONAL ISSUE IN THE FIRST PLACE. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT CONTRACTS WITH TWO DIFFERENT STRUCTURES OF BODIES THAT WERE OVER THEM, A NONPROFIT. WE HAD PARK BOARD MEMBERS ON THAT NONPROFIT BOARD TO BE WATCHING THIS AND WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED. AND THEN WE HAVE THIS SIDE, WHICH IS YOU UNDER THE CITY MANAGER, A DIFFERENT KIND OF PROCESS, A DIFFERENT KIND OF OVERSIGHT. SO OBVIOUSLY WE WANT THE SCRUTINY, WE WANNA BE SURE THAT WE ARE HAW EYEING THIS AND THAT NOTHING GOES WRONG. BUT, UH, I WOULD SAY THAT WE'RE, WE'D KIND OF BE CUTTING OFF OUR NOSE DESPITE OUR FACE. AND, UM, THOUGH WE ALL HAVE OUR QUALMS THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP THIS UP AND RUNNING TO GET THE REVENUE THAT IT WILL GENERATE AS WE MOVE TOWARD THE BIG, UH, CONVENTION CENTER, UH, IN THREE AND A HALF YEARS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN WEST RECORDS FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID. I HAVE THE SAME RESERVATIONS AS EVERYBODY ELSE ON THE, THE VENDOR. UM, AND I AGREE THAT THEY HAVE A LOT OF WORK TO DO TO, TO CORRECT THE MISTAKES OF THEIR OTHER DIVISION. UM, THIS, IN ADDITION TO EVERYTHING ROSA HAS STATED AND WHAT SOME OF MY COLLEAGUES HAVE BROUGHT UP, THIS WAS ALSO A REQUEST, UM, BY VISIT DALLAS TO HAVE THIS EXTENSION PERIOD. GRANTED, MR. MR. DAVIS HAD CALLED ME, UM, AND BASICALLY SAID, VISIT DALLAS NEEDS THIS, THIS TRANSITION TIME TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON THE CONVENTION CENTER WORK. AND I, I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REPRESENTATIVE HERE AND I WOULD JUST, AND MR. SANCHEZ, IF YOU WANNA COME DOWN AND, AND CONFIRM THAT YOU CAN, I'M NOT TRYING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT, BUT THAT, THAT IS A, UH, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS SOMETHING SUPPORTED BY YOUR ORGANIZATION AND, UM, AND VERY MUCH IMPORTANT TO THE TRANSITION OF YOU TAKING OVER THE CONTRACT. AFTERNOON. UH, GARY SANCHEZ, SENIOR DIRECTOR OF IMPACT AND PUBLIC AFFAIRS. I VISIT DALLAS. I'M JOINED BY MY COLLEAGUE MICHAEL RODOWSKI, VICE PRESIDENT OF RESEARCH AND INSIGHTS. AND SO YES, THANK YOU SO MUCH WITH A QUESTION. UM, AS WE MENTIONED YESTERDAY, AS ROSA MENTIONED YESTERDAY, WHAT WE ARE SEEKING IS LITTLE TO NO DISRUPTION IN SERVICE, CONTINUED CONTINUATION OF SERVICE OF THE CONVENTION CENTER AS WE SHARED YESTERDAY. UM, OUR CLIENTS, OUR CUSTOMERS ARE EXTREMELY EXCITED KNOWING NOW THAT WE HAVE HALL'S A, B AND C 300,000 SQUARE FEET TO SELL THROUGH 2029. UM, WE HAVE STATS READY TO SHARE, BUT, UM, CHAIRMAN WEST, YES, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WAS DALLAS SUPPORTS. SURE. IS IT OKAY, UM, CHAIRMAN GRACE, THAT YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES, THANK YOU. AND, AND ROSA, HELP ME UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS GREAT NEWS THAT, THAT A, B AND C WILL STILL BE OPERATING. HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHAT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT VISIT DALLAS WILL BE DOING AND WHAT OVG IS CURRENTLY DOING AND WHAT THEY'LL BE DOING AFTER THIS. ABSOLUTELY. SO IN THE AGREEMENTS THAT WE HAVE WITH VISIT DALLAS AND WITH OAKVIEW GROUP, THE OAKVIEW GROUP IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DAY-TO-DAY MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY AS WELL AS THE MANAGEMENT. OKAY. I, AND I'M SORRY, I THINK I HEARD YOU SAY THAT, SO I DON'T WANT TO WASTE ANY MUCH TIME. SURE. I, I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO GET TO, WILL THEY, AT WHAT POINT DOES THEIR CONTRACT END? SO IT WOULD, IT, IF THIS IS SUCCESSFUL TODAY, IT WOULD END FEBRUARY 26TH, 2027. UM, AS WE TRANSITION THE OTHERS. NOW, WHAT I WOULD NEED TO DO IS BRING ANOTHER ACTION TO YOU IF TODAY'S VOTE IS SUCCESSFUL AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS RECEIVED BY THIS BODY [02:50:01] TO CHANGE HOW VISIT DALLAS INTERACTS WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER. SO THAT WOULD LAY OUT THE, THE, UH, SCOPE OF WORK FOR HOW THEY, THE SALES PORTION OF IT, RIGHT. AND THEN WE WOULD MOVE FORWARD PROBABLY IN JANUARY AS WE WORKED THROUGH ALL THE OTHER CONTRACTS WITH ANY OTHER TRANSITION AND WE WOULD BRING IT THEN, BUT IMMEDIATELY I WOULD NEED TO BRING ONE THAT ALLOWS FOR THE DALLAS TO SELL THOSE SHORT TERM ABSOLUTELY IN BETWEEN, UM, CONFERENCES BECAUSE THEIR CURRENT AGREEMENT DOES THE CITY-WIDES AND A LARGER EVENTS, BUT NOT THOSE SMALLER, UH, YEAR IN THE YEAR FOR THE YEAR IS HOW WE TERM IT. THEY SELL WITHIN THE FISCAL YEAR OR THE CALENDAR YEAR. UM, THEY'D BE ABLE TO DO THAT. OKAY. BUT THE, AGAIN, JUST TO BE CLEAR, THE OBJECTIVE IS IN, IN THE IS IS TO AGAIN, PUT VISIT DALLAS IN PLACE AND AGAIN, EVENTUALLY IN FEBRUARY 27, OB G'S TERM WOULD BE ENDING. SO WE'D BRING YOU THE PLAN, SO, SO THAT WE CAN OUTLINE THE SCOPE AND BRIEF YOU THE SCOPE OF WHAT VISIT DALLAS WOULD BE DOING AND THEN WHAT CITY STAFF WOULD BE DOING WITHOUT EXPANSION OF MY EXISTING TEAM AT ALL. SO WITHIN THE PURVIEW OF WHAT WE DO AND PROVIDE THAT TO YOU, OUR GOAL IS TO PROVIDE THAT TO YOU QUICKLY, LIKE IN DECEMBER OR JANUARY TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE A POLICY RECOMMENDATION AND A VOTE ON HOW WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. NOW, THE VISIT DALLAS CONTRACT, I NEED TO BRING THAT, THAT SCOPE CHANGE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. OKAY. AND I GUESS I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE I HAVE CLARITY THAT THE INTENT IS NOT TO CONTINUE ONGOING RELATIONSHIP WITH VISIT DOS BECAUSE OF POINTS I SHARE WITH MY COLLEAGUES, UH, AS WELL IN TERMS OF THE BUSINESS, REGARDLESS OF WHO IT WAS THAT WAS A REPRESENTATION, UH, FROM THERE. SO I'M JUST TRYING TO MAKE SURE THIS ISN'T SOMETHING THAT CONTINUES ON WITH THAT RELATIONSHIP. THANK YOU MS. YOU COGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, CITY ATTORNEY, IS THERE AN EXISTING LAWSUIT WITH THIS VENDOR? I BELIEVE THERE IS. DO WE GENERALLY DO BUSINESS WITH VENDORS WHO ARE SUING US OR WE ARE SUING THEM? I DON'T BELIEVE IT'S UNHEARD OF. OKAY. WOULD YOU SAY IT'S A GOOD PRACTICE? I WOULD LET THE THE BODY MAKE THAT DECISION. OKAY. I'LL SAY IT'S NOT, UM, IS PARKS HERE TO SPEAK? I HAVE A QUESTION. IF THEY ARE CONDUCTING A FORENSIC AUDIT OR PAYING FOR A FORENSIC AUDIT AT THE DIRECTION OF THE PARK BOARD, SPECIFICALLY MAYOR, YOUR APPOINTEE, THE PARK BOARD CHAIR I THINK HAS CHAMPIONED THIS ITEM. I'M GONNA DO A POINT OF ORDER ON THAT. MAYOR, I THINK THE AUDIT INVOLVES THE, THEIR WORK ON FAIR PARK, NOT ON THIS. I MEAN, I LIKE THE QUESTION, BUT IT'S NOT GERMANE. I MEAN, WHO'S HE DIRECTING THE QUESTION TOS PARKS DIRECT, JUST TO CONFIRM THE EXISTENCE OF A FORENSIC AUDIT ON THIS COMPANY. I'LL, I'LL ALLOW HER TO ASK THE QUESTION IN PARKS. I DON'T, I'M NOT ANSWERING HER QUESTION. WELL, WHILE WE WAIT FOR THEM, I'LL JUST SAY THIS, Y'ALL, WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT KIND OF COMPANY THIS IS. WE KNOW WE'VE EXPERIENCED IT, WE KNOW HOW THEY TREATED US WHILE THEY HAD ANOTHER CONTRACT FOR THE CONVENTION CENTER. THEY DID THAT KNOWING THAT THAT WAS AT RISK. I CONTINUE TO SAY WE NEED A NAUGHTY LIST FOR OUR VENDORS. THEY WOULD BE ON THE NAUGHTY LIST. UM, BECAUSE FRANKLY COUNSEL NEEDS TO BE BARRED FROM ITSELF, FROM APPROVING ANOTHER CONTRACT WITH A KNOWN BAD ACTOR. WE'RE RE WE'RE ACTUALLY REWARDING BAD BEHAVIOR AND SAYING, OH, YOU NEED TO EARN MY TRUST. WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? WE HAVE A LAWSUIT GOING, A FORENSIC AUDIT. THERE'S MILLIONS OF DOLLARS AT STAKE, EARN OUR TRUST. LIKE WE'RE LITERALLY EVERY PARABLE OF KNOWING WHO SOMEBODY IS AND CONTINUING TO PUT OURSELVES AND OUR TAXPAYERS AT RISK. AND THIS VENDOR HAS PROVEN TO HAVE AN ACCEPTABLE PERFORMANCE. I CAN'T THINK OF ANY REASON WE WOULD DO THIS. AND YOU KNOW, WHAT HAPPENED WITH FAIR PARK IS THE PARKS DEPARTMENT HAD TO STEP UP. SO YOU SEEM TO HAVE EXTRA TIME TO WORK ON AN INTERNATIONAL SOMETHING. I WOULD HOPE YOU WOULD WORK ON THIS BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN OKAY VENDOR AND IT'S FRANKLY SHOCKING THAT YOU WOULD EVEN ASK US TO APPROVE A CONTRACT EXTENSION [02:55:01] FOR THIS VENDOR WHO I DON'T EVEN THINK WE SHOULD HAVE CONTINUED A DAY AFTER THE FAIR PARK THING HAPPENED. SO I SEE RYAN, RYAN, THE QUESTION WAS IF THERE'S A FORENSIC AUDIT HAPPENING WITH OVG FROM THE DIRECTION OF THE PARK BOARD AND THE ADVOCACY OF OUR PARK CHAIR, AND BEFORE HE DOES, I THINK CITY ATTORNEY I THINK HAD AN ANSWER OR A RESPONSE OF YOUR QUESTION. MR. MAYOR, I I DO WANNA APOLOGIZE. WE HAVE ACTUALLY NOT BEEN SERVED AND WE DON'T BELIEVE A LAWSUIT HAD BEEN FILED WITH OBG YET. I KNOW THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF DISCUSSION AND I GOT MY LAWSUITS CONFUSED. OKAY. OKAY. MR, YOU CAN ANSWER THE QUESTION. UH, THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES MA'AM. WE HAVE INITIATED AN AUDIT, WE HAVE RECEIVED THE PHASE ONE, UH, FINDINGS, AND WE ARE STILL WORKING THROUGH WHETHER TO PROCEED TO A PHASE TWO, WHICH WOULD BE, UH, A MORE IN DEPTH STUDY. BUT THE ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS YES. OKAY. WELL, MY INPUT TO YOU IS I HOPE YOU GO WITH A PHASE TWO BECAUSE WE CANNOT HAVE VENDORS AND CONTRACTORS FLEECING OUR TAXPAYERS AND HARMING OUR CITY, WHICH IS EXACTLY WHAT'S HAPPENED. YOU KNOW, I MEAN, FOOL ME ONCE, SHAME ON YOU GUESS WHO IT IS WHEN IT'S THE SECOND TIME. IT'S GONNA BE THIS BODY THAT WILL VOTE FOR THIS. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WILL DO IT WITH A VERY CLEAR HEAD. THANK YOU. UM, MS. BLACKMAN, YOU RECKON IT'S FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. UM, SO IF THIS, DO WE HAVE A PLAN B IF THIS FAILS, OR IS THIS THE EASIEST OPTION FOR WHAT THE TIMEFRAME IS? AND IT'S ONLY FIVE MONTHS IN ADDITION? I MEAN, WE, BECAUSE WE DID, WE STILL HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THEM. SO FROM A A STAFF RECOMMENDATION, THIS IS THE FISCALLY SOUND OPTION BECAUSE IT'LL ALLOW US TO TREAT THE COLLATERAL VENDORS, THE VENDORS WHO PROVIDE THE SERVICES IN THE BUILDING SUCH AS FOOD SERVICE, RIGGING, ACE, UH, PARKING, THE OTHER ITEMS THAT KEEP THE CONVENTION CENTER RUNNING, BE ABLE TO TRANSFER THEM RESPECTFULLY BACK TO THE CITY, NEGOTIATE THE TERMS FOR THE SMALLER FOOTPRINT, AND BE ABLE TO DO THAT WITHOUT ANY OF THE, WITHOUT HAVING TO GO BACKWARD AND DO IT IN A WAY WHERE YOU'RE REQUESTING THINGS AFTER YOU'VE COMPLETELY TERMINATED, UH, A COMPANY. THEY'LL BE ON SITE, WE'LL BE ABLE TO LIVE AUDIT, WE'LL BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY LOOK AT THE CLIENTS IN THE FACE, NEGOTIATE FACE TO FACE WITH THESE, UH, SERVICE PROVIDERS, ET CETERA. SO I THINK FROM A CONTINUATION PERSPECTIVE, IT MAKES, UH, SENSE TO DO IT THIS WAY AND THEN, UH, CONTINUE WITH FURTHER ACTION AFTER THAT. SO IT'S A TRANSITION PERIOD. YES. BUT ALSO IT ALLOWS YOU TO CONTINUE SOME ACTIVITIES AT THE CONVENTION CENTER IN THIS TIME. THAT'S KIND OF A, A BUILDING AND TRANSITION. YES, IT'S A, IT'S VERY DIFFICULT. WOULD WE MAKE IT HAPPEN IF, IF IF SOMETHING WERE TO GO DIFFERENTLY ON THIS BOAT, OBVIOUSLY THERE, BUT THE DELIVERY TO CLIENTS WHO WILL BE RETURNING IN A MUCH BIGGER SENSE IN THE LARGER BUILDING AND TO BE RESPECTFUL TO THE SERVICE PROVIDERS WHO ARE CURRENTLY IN THE BUILDING. UM, WE BELIEVE THIS IS THE, THE BEST PATH FORWARD. SO WHAT ASSURANCES CAN YOU GIVE US, UH, FOR THE FIVE MONTHS OR EVEN FOR THE, YOU KNOW, FOR THE PERIOD? I MEAN, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND I DON'T NECESSARILY NEED ANOTHER MEMO OR REPORT, BUT TELL US WHAT CHECKS AND JUST TO GIVE US SOME ASSURANCES THAT WE'RE, WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ON TOP OF IT. WE'VE, WE'VE NOT FELT AN AUDIT. I THINK, UM, I SAID THAT EARLIER, UM, WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL IN ACTUALLY BEING A REVENUE GENERATING FROM AN EVENT PERSPECTIVE CONVENTION CENTER. AND I THINK THAT THAT DAY-TO-DAY MANAGEMENT AND OVERSIGHT THAT WE BRING TO THE TABLE FROM THE WAY THAT OUR CONTRACT COMPLIANCE UNIT IS STRUCTURED AT THE CONVENTION CENTER AND WITHIN CONVENTION AND EVENT SERVICES PERIOD, BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN SUCCESSFUL ON ALL OF OUR AUDITS, UM, IS BECAUSE WE TAKE THAT DEEPER DIVE AND WE TAKE THE TIME TO LOOK, WE ASK QUESTIONS. IF YOU PULLED IN OPEN RECORDS, YOU WOULD SEE OUR QUESTIONS BACK AND FORTH. YOU WOULD SEE THE WEEKLY REPORTS THAT WE ASK FROM FOR THEM AND THE QUESTIONS BACK TO THEM AND THE END OF YEAR REPORT AND THE TIME THAT WE TAKE TO GO THROUGH THAT END OF YEAR REPORT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE NOT MISSED A, MISSED A STEP IN. SO THAT WILL CONTINUE. THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY CONTINUE. AND THE MINUTE YOU SEE SOMETHING GOING, UH, OR YOU KNOW, GOING OFF THE TRACK, YOU WILL, YOU SOUND THE ALARM. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I MEAN, I THINK [03:00:01] IT'S FIVE MONTHS AND YOU, YOU'VE GOT WORK TO DO IT. AND IT'S ALMOST LIKE IF YOU DON'T, IF THEY DON'T DO IT, SOMEBODY ELSE WILL HAVE TO. AND I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE GOT ENOUGH TIME TO GET IT DONE. WE NEED, YOU KNOW, WE, AND WE SAW YESTERDAY, YOU DO NEED SOME REVENUE TO MAKE YOUR, YOUR, YOUR SLOTS WORK, YOUR MONEY SLOTS. AND SO, I MEAN, UM, I'M JUST ROSA, JUST MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE ON TOP OF IT AND THAT YOU ARE REALLY IN COMPLIANCE THERE, YOU KNOW, EVERYBODY'S IN COMPLIANCE AND, UM, THAT IT, IT IS SOUNDED IF IT EVER GOES NOT THAT WAY. ABSOLUTELY. BECAUSE I DON'T THINK FOR, YOU KNOW, IT'S JUST FOR FIVE MONTHS. IT'S, IT'S KIND OF, BUT I THINK WE'RE GONNA GO A DIFFERENT DIRECTION WHEN THE TIME COMES. SO IT'S, IT'S OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MORENO. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, OBVIOUSLY THIS AGENDA GIVES ME HEARTBURN. I THINK IT GIVES EVERYBODY HEARTBURN AROUND THIS HORSESHOE. UH, I, I DO WANT TO THANK OUR PARK, UH, BOARD LEADERSHIP FOR HIGHLIGHTING THE ISSUES THAT WERE OUT AT AT FAIR PARK. UM, IF THIS ITEM WERE TO FAIL, HOW LONG WOULD IT TAKE TO PROCURE NEW SERVICES? HOW MANY CONVENTION CENTERS ARE ON THE BOOKS BETWEEN NOW AND FEBRUARY? YOU KNOW, WE TALK ABOUT, UM, THE REWARDING OF A AN OPERATOR WITH A CLOUDY RECORD, BUT WHAT TYPE OF HARM WOULD IT DO TO THE CITY IF WE DON'T MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM TODAY? SO VISIT DALLAS HAS BOOKED APPROXIMATELY 24, UM, IMMEDIATE EVENTS. WHEN FIFA LEFT ON AUGUST 24TH. OUR IMMEDIATE NEXT CONVENTION STARTED, UH, SEPTEMBER 8TH WITH THEIR MOVE-IN. SO TRANSITIONING THOSE CONTRACTS TO VISIT DALLAS WOULD TAKE, UH, A LITTLE BIT OF TIME. I, I DON'T WANNA SAY A WEEK OR TWO OR THREE BECAUSE I, I'M NOT SURE, AND I'D BE MISSTATING. I WANNA BE TRUTHFUL AND HONEST AND TRANSPARENT. AND SO WE WOULD HAVE TO TRANSITION THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EMERGENCY NEED TO COME BACK TO COUNCIL IMMEDIATELY TO TRANSITION ALL OF THE CONTRACTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY ATTACHED TO, UH, OAKVIEW GROUP. AND SO IT'S, IT'S QUITE A BIT OF, OF WORK TO DO THAT AND THEN GO BACK AND RENEGOTIATE 'EM AFTER A REASSIGNMENT. UM, I'M NOT SURE I WOULD HAVE TO CONSULT OUR, OUR CITY ATTORNEY. I DON'T KNOW THAT THEY WOULD HAVE AN ANSWER IMMEDIATELY ON WHAT THAT WOULD DO TO THE TURNOVER OF, OF THESE CONTRACTS EITHER. SO I, I JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A RECOMMENDATION FOR A SHORT TERM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE RESPECTFULLY DO NOT FIND OURSELF IN A POSITION THAT WE DROP FROM NUMBER FIVE AS A TOURISM CITY, WHICH WE'VE MAINTAINED EVEN THROUGH ALL OF THE TRANSITION, UM, TO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BECAUSE OUR, OUR TREATMENT OF OUR CLIENTS HAS TO CHANGE. AND, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE SOME OF THESE, UH, CONTRACTS WITH, UH, OVG, THERE'S, THERE'S SOME SUBCONTRACTING GOING ON WITH LOCAL BUSINESSES. IS THAT FAIR TO SAY? THAT'S FAIR TO SAY, YES. OKAY. SO I MEAN, COLLEAGUES, AGAIN, I THINK THIS ITEM IS, UH, WE HAVE TO MAKE THE BEST OF IT. AND I FEEL THAT IN ORDER TO STAY COMPETITIVE, IN ORDER TO FULFILL OUR OBLIGATION WITH THE CONVENTIONS THAT WE'VE BOOKED, UH, WE HAVE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS, UH, AGENDA ITEM BEFORE US TODAY AND THEN LOOK FORWARD TO A VERY INTENSIVE, UH, RFP WHEN WE GO OUT FOR A LONG-TERM, UH, DEAL LOOKING, LOOKING FORWARD TO. THANK YOU MAYOR. CHAIRMAN RIDLEY RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. SO ROSA, SINCE MANY OF THE SERVICES, IF NOT MOST OF THEM PROVIDED BY OVG, ARE THROUGH SUBCONTRACTORS, IF WE VOTE THIS ITEM DOWN, COULDN'T YOU JUST CONTRACT WITH THOSE SUBCONTRACTORS CONTINUING THE SERVICES WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE DOING THEM NOW? THEY WOULD HAVE TO, AND I WOULD NEED A LITTLE BIT OF HELP FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN THE PROCESS EXACTLY, BUT THEY WOULD HAVE TO BE REASSIGNED. AND THAT IS A, A COUNCIL ACTION, A POLICY. IT IS NOT IF CONNIE, UH, TANKERSLEY COULD COME AND HELP ME WITH THIS ONE. I'M NOT SURE ABOUT THE TRANSITION OF HIM. EXACTLY. THAT WAS THE NEXT STEP. HI, CONNIE TANKERSLEY, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. UNDER THE CURRENT MANAGEMENT CONTRACT, UH, THE DIRECTOR HAS THE DISCRETION TO ASSUME, UH, CONTRACTS ON THE TERMINATION OF THE AGREEMENT WITH OVG. SO, UM, ANY OF THOSE VENDORS THAT THEY CURRENTLY HAVE UNDER CONTRACT WOULD BE SUBJECT TO, UH, UH, AN ASSIGNMENT THAT SHE WOULD EXERCISE TO ASSUME? NO. OKAY. SO THE SUBCONTRACTORS, WE [03:05:01] COULD ASSUME THERE ARE AGREEMENTS WITH OVG AFTER THE OVG AGREEMENT EXPIRES. THAT'S CORRECT. THAT'S CORRECT. SO THEY WOULD BE WORKING ON, UM, EXISTING PAY SCALES, SCOPE OF WORK, ET CETERA. WE WOULD JUST ASSUME THOSE CONTRACTS. SO YOU WOULDN'T HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE THEM, WOULD YOU, ROSA? IT'S POSSIBLE THAT SHE MAY HAVE TO RENEGOTIATE SOME TERMS JUST BECAUSE OF THE SCOPE OF WORK. IT WOULD PROBABLY BE ADVANTAGEOUS FOR HER TOO, BECAUSE SHE WOULD BE PAYING RATES, UM, ON A LARGER VENUE. SO, BUT, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, SHE WOULD NOT BE REQUIRED TO. OKAY. WELL, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT TRANSITION HAPPEN. UM, IF WE DID THAT, THAT WOULDN'T INTERRUPT THE SERVICES THAT ARE NECESSARY TO RUN THE CONVENTION CENTER, WOULD IT? SO WE'VE WRITTEN THE, UH, CONTRACT LANGUAGE TO ALLOW FOR A TRANSITION. WE DID PUT A FEBRUARY DATE, BUT THE LANGUAGE THAT IS IN THERE SAYS UNLESS TERMINATED SOONER. SO AS WE START THE TRANSITION, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AS QUICKLY AS WE CAN WORK THROUGH SOME OF THESE ITEMS, WE WOULD BE BACK AT COUNCIL. BUT THE OVG CONTRACT EXPIRES AT THE END OF THIS MONTH, CORRECT? YES, SIR. AND THE CITY HAS THE RIGHT TO ASSUME THE SUBCONTRACTS AT THAT POINT AND CONTINUE WORKING WITH THEM GOING FORWARD? WE DO, BUT NOT ALL OF THEM. SO THERE ARE SOME HVAC CONTRACTS, SOME ELEVATOR ESCALATOR CONTRACTS THAT ARE SPECIFICALLY WITH THEM THAT WOULD TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TO DO THAN JUST A SIMPLE ASSUMPTION. THE LARGER CONTRACTS WERE IN PLAY ALREADY AND IN PLACE WHEN WE HIRED THEM IN FEBRUARY, UH, SEVERAL FEBRUARY 19, SEVERAL YEARS AGO IN 2019. AND SO THE THINGS THAT HAD TO DO WITH, UH, FOOD SERVICE, THE THINGS THAT HAD TO DO WITH PARKING AND TECHNOLOGY WERE ALREADY IN PLACE. WE ASSIGNED THOSE CONTRACTS TO THEM. THEY SINCE CAME BACK, THEY RENEGOTIATED THE JANITORIAL. SO THAT IS A DIFFERENT COMPANY. THAT ONE WAS IN PLACE IN 2019, UM, LARGER COMPANY THAT WE WOULD HAVE TO NEGOTIATE DOWN WITH AS WELL. THERE WAS NOT A RIGGING CONTRACT IN PLACE. SO THAT CAME ON BOARD AS THEY, UH, WENT THROUGH. I THINK THAT'S ONLY LIKE TWO OR THREE YEARS OLD. THERE'S A CONTRACT RELATED TO MEDICAL AND SOME OF THE OTHER, THERE'S A WHOLE, THERE'S A PLETHORA OF CONTRACTS THAT FUNCTION TO AS SERVICES FOR THE BUILDING, WHICH IS WHY WE ASKED FOR THE SHORT FIVE TERM, FIVE MONTH PERIOD TO DO ALL OF THE TRANSITION SO THAT WE DON'T MISS ANYTHING. I WOULD HATE TO HAVE SOME OF THE LARGER CONFERENCES THAT VISIT DALLAS HAS BROUGHT IN FOR THIS, EVEN THIS CALENDAR YEAR TO NOT GO OFF WELL BECAUSE WE MISSED SOMETHING. AND THAT'S MY, MY BIGGEST FEAR IS FALLING AND STANDING BECAUSE WE DIDN'T GIVE IT OUR FULL DUE DILIGENCE. WELL, ARE YOU ASKING FOR THIS FIVE MONTH TRANSITION PERIOD TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM OVG OR IS IT SIMPLY TO TRANSITION THE CONTRACT WITH OVG TO A SMALLER FOOTPRINT? SO TO TRANSITION, UM, AWAY PERIOD. SO IN THIS FIVE MONTHS, YOU'LL BE PUTTING OUT WHAT A NEW RFP FOR THE SERVICES THAT OVG IS CURRENTLY PROVIDING. SO I'VE ALREADY ASKED OUR CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE HOW FAR WE COULD GO IN TERMS OF, OF VISIT DALLAS AND A CHANGE OF SCOPE TO THAT. I'VE LOOKED AT OUR TEAM WHO ALREADY HAS THE EXPERIENCE. MOST OF MY STAFF WAS THERE IN 2019 WHO HAVE WORKED AND RUN A CONVENTION CENTER BEFORE. SO WITH A SMALLER SPACE, BUT I CAN'T, I CAN'T STAND HERE AND GIVE YOU THE WHOLE PLAN. I NEED SOME TIME TO BE ABLE TO MAKE THE TRANSITIONS AND TELL YOU WE'RE GONNA HAVE 24 CONVENTIONS IN X, Y, Z TIME. THEY'RE OF THIS SIZE. UH, OUR FOOD SERVICE PROVIDER IS GOING TO SWITCH TO CONCESSIONS VERSUS PLATED. THERE'S PRICE POINTS FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS. AND SO THE NEGOTIATIONS ARE A LITTLE MORE THAN, THAN SIMPLY THE TRANSITION OF A CONTRACT. IT'S REALLY GETTING DOWN INTO THE ESSENTIAL, ESSENTIAL SERVICES THAT WILL BE NEEDED IN THE BUILDING ON A SMALLER FOOTPRINT. AND A LOT OF THAT HAS TO BE DONE IN TANDEM WITH VISIT DALLAS, SITTING AT THE TABLE WITH US SO THAT WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE SIZING OF THE EVENTS AND THE ACTUAL NEED. AND IF WE'RE, WE ARE ONLY GONNA HAVE, FOR EXAMPLE, UH, A KITCHEN AND A HALF LEFT. SO WHAT CAN WE PROVIDE WITH THAT AND HOW DO WE REDUCE THAT CONTRACT TO BE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE CLIENTELE THAT'S COMING IN. SO, AND I USE FOOD SERVICE 'CAUSE THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST, WELL IS THIS FIVE MONTHS GONNA BE USED TO NEGOTIATE THE [03:10:01] REDUCTION IN PHYSICAL FOOTPRINT WITH OVG OR IS THIS TO PROVIDE TIME TO NEGOTIATE WITH A NEW VENDOR TO TAKE OVER OV G'S ROLE? YEAH, IT'S GOOD AFTERNOON. SOMETIMES IT HELPS TO HEAR IT FROM A DIFFERENT PERSON. RIGHT. SO WE WE'RE TAKING UP TO FIVE MONTHS TO TRANSITION ALL OF THE SUB VENDOR AGREEMENTS AWAY FROM OVG TO EITHER VISIT DALLAS OR THE CITY AT THAT TIME, THE OBG CONTRACT WILL WIND DOWN AND THEY WILL NO LONGER BE THE MANAGEMENT ENTITY AT THE CONVENTION CENTER FOR THE NEW CONVENTION CENTER. WE'RE GONNA PROCURE A BRAND NEW MANAGEMENT COMPANY IN THE FUTURE TO MANAGE THAT LARGER SPACE. SO THIS IS REALLY JUST AN ORDERLY WIND DOWN TO GET ALL OF THE FOLKS THAT ROSE WAS TALKING ABOUT UNDER SMALLER SCOPE AGREEMENTS TO CONTINUE OPERATING THE LITTLE BIT OF HALL'S A, B, AND C THAT ARE LEFT WHILE WE ARE IN CONSTRUCTION. SO I THINK ROSA SAID ALL OF THAT IN DIFFERENT WAYS, BUT SOMETIMES IT HELPS TO HEAR IT AGAIN. SO, OKAY. ROBIN, THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. SO THE PURPOSE IS TO TRANSITION AWAY FROM OVG SO THAT THE CITY CONTRACTS DIRECTLY WITH THE VENDORS THAT ARE PROVIDING THE SERVICE NOW OR WITH THIS DALLAS. CORRECT. ALRIGHT. THANK YOU MAYOR MS. MIDDLES AND YOU, BEFORE YOU CALL ME, I HAVE A PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY. STATE YOUR INQUIRY. UM, WOULD A MOTION TO AMEND BE, UM, AN ORDER IF THE MOTION WAS, UM, STATING THAT THE VENDOR WOULD NOT BE ELIGIBLE FOR CONSIDERATION FOR FUTURE CONTRACTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE CONVENTION CENTER? NO, IT WOULD NOT BE IN ORDER. THANK YOU. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR ONE MINUTE I JUST WANNA REQUEST A RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU. NOTED. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST GEN 9 53? SEEING NONE. RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED BY PLEASE CALL THE ROLE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR? NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KANA? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DO IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO. TIM JOHNSON? NO. MAYOR PRO. TIM RESENDEZ? NO. MAYOR JOHNSON? YES. WE HAD SIX VOTING WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR? SIX OPPOSED? ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE ITEM PASSES. MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, DO WE HAVE ANY MORE, MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS SESSION. OKAY, THEN WE'LL STAY AT RECESS UNTIL ONE 30. ONE 30. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, I'M TOLD WE HAVE A QUORUM AND WE ARE BACK UP AND RUNNING ON OUR BROADCAST. [Z13. 26-3062A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 94 with consideration for a CS Commercial Service District or RR Regional Retail District on property zoned Planned Development District No. 94, on the north line of West Camp Wisdom Road, between South Cockrell Hill Road and American Way, [AKA 4201 West Camp Wisdom Road] Recommendation of Staff: Approval of an RR Regional Retail District, in lieu of an amendment to Planned Development District No. 94 Recommendation of CPC: Approval of an amendment to Planned Development District No. 94, subject to amended conditions Z-26-000073 Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on September 9, 2026, and is scheduled for consideration on September 23, 2026. *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] SO, MADAM SECRETARY, LET'S GO AHEAD AND PICK UP WITH OUR, UH, ZONING AND PUBLIC HEARINGS AGENDA. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING AGENDA, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE WOULD LIKE TO BE RECOGNIZED ON ITEM Z 13. GO AHEAD. UH, CHAIRMAN GRACIE. MR. MAYOR, I, I MOVE TO DEFER THIS ITEM TO OCTOBER 28TH, 2026. IS THERE A SECOND? OKAY. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. THIS IS WHICH ITEM? UH, Z 13. Z 13. THE MOTION WAS TO DEFER TO OCTOBER 28TH IS THE SECOND. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? YES, SIR. MINUTES? THIS IS, UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. UM, WITH THIS ITEM, UH, ONE, I HAVEN'T HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS THEY'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH, BUT WITH ALSO THE CREATION OF THE RED BIRD, UH, PUBLIC IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. WANTED TO MAKE SURE IT FITS IN WITH THE ENTIRE PLAN FOR THAT AREA AND THEY HAVE YET HAVE NOT MET WITH THEM AS WELL. SO I'M DEFERRING TO GIVE THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO DO BOTH. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON? OKAY. UH, MS. MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. UM, THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO NOTE THAT THIS WOULD BE THE THIRD DEFERRAL. AND SO IS THERE A COMMITMENT TO NOT DEFER A FOURTH TIME WHEN IT COMES IN OCTOBER? THERE'S NO COMMITMENT TO DO THAT. WELL, OKAY. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT GETTING OUR PERMITS THROUGH QUICKLY, PART OF THAT RELIES ON THE COUNCIL MEMBER NOT DEFERRING IT. THANK YOU. AND ALSO, WE SHOULD BE GONE FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO DEFER ON ITEM Z 13. SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. SECOND ITEMS DEFERRED. UH, [Z11. 26-2900A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new planned development district for R-5(A) Single Family District uses on property zoned R-16(A) Single Family District, on the north line of Walnut Hill Lane and the east line of Betty Jane Lane, east of Marsh Lane Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan and conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to a conceptual plan and conditions Z-25-000224 Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearing on August 25, 2026, and is scheduled for consideration on September 23, 2026. *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] MADAM SECRETARY. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. AGAIN. BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT [03:15:01] AGENDA, WE WILL TAKE UP YOUR, UM, AN INDIVIDUAL ZONING ITEM. ITEM Z 11. I'LL READ THAT ITEM INTO THE RECORD. ITEM 11 IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FOR R DASH FIVE. A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF WALNUT HILL LANE AND THE EAST LINE OF BETTY JANE LANE, EAST OF MARSH LANE. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 76 PROPERTY, 76 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED FIVE REPLIES IN FAVOR AND 42 REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. YOU DO HAVE 23 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. EACH SPEAKER WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. I WILL CALL SPEAKERS IN, UH, TWO GROUPS. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, I ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST THREE ROWS OF THIS CENTER SECTION. FRANCIE BEAL, JOHN WIMBERLEY, JORGE GUERRERO, DAVE ROGERS, ROSS CUTLER, VIRGINIA WORLEY, JULIA HART, KATIE FORD, CATHERINE RAFTER, CHRISTINA WILKERSON, PETER SOMERVILLE. PHILLIP KINGSTON. FRANCIE BEAL. HI, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOU MAY, WE CAN SEE YOU AS WELL. YOU MAY CONTINUE. OKAY. HI, UH, GOOD AFTERNOON. FRANCIE BELL, 1 0 1 4 1 BETTY JANE LANE. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE CITY COUNCIL FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. AND THANKS TO ALL OUR NEIGHBORS WHO, UH, TRAVELED DOWNTOWN AGAIN TO DEFEND OUR PHYSICIAN. UH, WE ALREADY HAD A STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD COMMUNITY BEFORE IN THE LAST THREE, UH, THREE YEARS HAVE, UH, STRENGTHENED OUR RESOLVE TO STAY ORGANIZED AND KEEP OUR COMMUNITY BETTER. THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WILL NOT BE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT TO MAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD BETTER AS DESIGNED. THE DEVELOPER HAS WORKED WITH US OVER THE LAST TWO YEARS, BUT HE'S GIVEN MULTIPLE EXCEPTIONS FROM OUR CITY ZONING AND PLANNING COMMISSION THAT FRANKLY HAS JUST MYSTIFIES US ON HOW THIS COULD EVEN BE ACCEPTED AND APPROVED. EVEN SOME OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS HAVE SAID THEY'RE BAFFLED AT HOW ALL THESE EXCEPTIONS CAME THROUGH TO OUR DEVELOPMENT. NOW, WHILE WE WANNA DEVELOPMENT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE LOOKED AT WELCOMING OUR NEW NEIGHBORS THAT CAN ENJOY OUR WONDERFUL NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVE IN, WE ASK THAT THE CITY COUNCIL DENY THIS PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT AS IS. BECAUSE IT'S TOO DENSE, IT'S TOO TALL, THE STREETS AND THE ROADS CAN FRANKLY PROBABLY NOT HANDLE THIS MUCH, UH, OVERLOAD INTO OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. I'D LIKE TO PERSONALLY THANK COUNCIL MEMBER GAY WILLIS FOR OVER THE TWO YEARS BEING SUPPORTIVE TO ALWAYS HAVING AN OPEN EAR LISTENING TO BOTH OF THE HOA PRESIDENTS, IT, IT'S BEEN IMPORTANT TO US TO FEEL LIKE OUR VOICES HAVE BEEN HEARD. UM, SO WE ASK THE CITY COUNCIL IF YOU, UM, COULD PLEASE DENY THIS DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, IF YOU FEEL LIKE THE NEED THAT YOU HAVE TO APPROVE IT, WE, UH, IMPLORE UPON YOU TO PLEASE APPROVE IT WITH EXCEPTION THAT IT NOT BE HIGHER THAN 30 FEET. THAT'S JUST ENTIRELY TOO TALL FOR OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. AND WHILE OUR NEIGHBORS, WE LOVE BEING NEIGHBORHOODS FIRST AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO US, WE ASK THAT YOU DENY IT. BUT IF YOU HAVE, HAVE TO APPROVE IT, PLEASE, NO HIGHER THAN 30 FEET. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHN WIMBERLEY. LEMME MAKE SURE MY NAME, MY, MY FACE IS CLOSE ENOUGH TO THE MICROPHONE. MY MAIN IS NOT. MY NAME IS JOHN WIMBERLEY AND I LIVE AT 25 WIMBERLEY COURT, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO THIS PROPERTY. THE FIRST I BUILT THE DEVELOPMENT AND THE FIRST TIME I BUILT ON THIS STREET WAS FOR MY PARENTS AT 28 WIMBERLEY COURT. FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, MORE THAN A YEAR AGO, OUR NEIGHBORHOOD HAS BEEN CLEAR THAT WE WOULD SUPPORT A PROPOSAL THAT WOULD STILL MORE THAN TRIPLE THE DENSITY ALL ALLOWED IN THIS PROPERTY. ITS CURRENT ZONING, WHICH IS OUR 16, BUT STILL MUST MAINTAIN THE EXISTING HEIGHT LIMIT OF TWO STORY 30 FEET, WHICH IS THE SAME AS ALL THE OTHER SINGLE FAMILY ZONING THROUGHOUT OUR WALNUT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD. AND ALL THE OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND US WERE VILES. THE VERY FIRST THING WE DID A, A YEAR AGO WHEN THIS WAS PRESENTED TO US WAS WE PRESENTED AN ALTERNATE. THE GATE WAS WITHIN THOSE STANDARDS, BUT MS. WILLIS TOLD US THAT WE COULDN'T EVEN OFFER THAT BECAUSE THE DEVELOPER DIDN'T WANT IT. THE PREVIOUS REZONING PROPOSAL FOR 50 PATIO HOMES, THE MAJORITY OF WHICH WERE STILL THREE STORY WAS DENIED BY THIS COUNCIL LAST NOVEMBER. THIS CURRENT PROPOSAL IS THE THIRD TIME THE DEVELOPERS SUBMITTED SOMETHING TO THE CITY WITHOUT FIRST DISCUSSING IT WITH OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, WHILE FALSELY CLAIMING THAT THEY'RE LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WHEN WE FINALLY GET TO MEET THEM AFTER FINALLY SEEING [03:20:01] THEIR PROPOSAL, THEY REFUSE TO CHANGE ANYTHING. OUR ONLY ASK RIGHT NOW IS THAT ALL HOMES HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF TWO STORY 30 FEET. HOW MUCH MORE REASONABLE CAN WE BE? THEY CONTINUE TO FALSELY CLAIM THAT THEY'RE REQUESTING PD IS THEN UNDERLINED. ZONING IS R FIVE, BUT THERE IS NOTHING ABOUT THIS PD THAT IS R FIVE. THEY'RE REALLY REQUESTING TOWNHOUSE THREE, WHICH IS THE MOST DENSE TOWNHOUSE ZONING THAT YOU HAVE IN THE CITY OF DALLAS AND PURPOSELY MISLABELING IT AS R FIVE. IT'S ASKED FOR THE SAME HEIGHT LIMIT OF THREE STORY 36 FEET AS TOWNHOUSE THREE, AND A MINIMUM, MINIMUM LOT SIZE OF 1,980 SQUARE FEET, WHICH IS EVEN LESS THAN THE 2000 SQUARE FEET MINIMUM IN TOWNHOUSE THREE. THAT'S EIGHT TIMES AS DENSE AS THE CURRENT R 16 ZONING. THAT'S NOT R FIVE ZONING. LET, SO LET ME REPEAT. THERE ARE NO SINGLE FAMILY ZONING IN OUR ENTIRE WALNUT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD OR ANY OF THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS THAT ALLOWS LOTS THIS SMALL OR THREE STORY 36 FEET TALL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST THE PROPOSAL UNLESS THE AMENDMENT IS ADDED THAT HONORS OUR VERY REASONABLE SIMPLE REQUESTS TO LIMIT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ALL HOMES IN THIS DEVELOPMENT TO TWO STORY 30 FEET THAT WILL SO WILL BE COMPATIBLE WITH OUR WALNUT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD AND THAT THEN WE CAN ALL SUPPORT IT. THAT'S ALL WE'RE ASKING FOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JORGE GUERRERO. IT'S NOT ONLINE, NOT IN THE AUDIENCE, NOT PRESENT. DAVE ROGERS. DAVE ROGERS NOT ONLINE, NOT IN THE AUDIENCE NOT PRESENT. ROSS COLER COULTER. ROSS COULTER NOT PRESENT. VIRGINIA WORLEY. VIRGINIA WORLEY. IT'S NOT PRESENT. JULIA HART. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JULIA HART. THERE'S A LITTLE BUTTON DOWN THERE AT THE BASE OF THAT MICROPHONE. OR GET CLOSER, SEE IF IT'S ON. TRY THAT. HOW'S THIS ? NO, IT WAS ON BEFORE. JUST THERE. OKAY. THERE YOU GO. ALL RIGHT. SORRY ABOUT THAT. GOOD AFTERNOON. I'M JULIA HART. THANK YOU TO THE CITY COUNCIL FOR HAVING US HERE TODAY. MY FAMILY HAS LIVED IN WALNUT HILL FOR 21 YEARS. TODAY I AM ASKING YOU TO VOTE NO FORWARD DALLAS PROMISE. GENERAL EQUITABLE INCREMENTAL GROWTH, GROWTH THAT RESPECTS WHAT IS ALREADY BUILT. THIS PROPOSAL DOES THE EXACT OPPOSITE. IT LEAPFROGS SEVEN ZONING DISTRICTS ENTIRELY. IT FORCES HIGH DENSITY TOWN HOME USE ONTO AN R 16 A NEIGHBORHOOD. HOW? BY EXPLOITING A PLANNED DEVELOPMENT LOOPHOLE. DISGUISING TOWN HOME DENSITY IS PATIO HOMES NORMALLY CRAMMING 37 HOMES ONTO 3.75 ACRES, REQUIRES TOWNHOME ZONING, BUT WITH THE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT LOOPHOLE, IT'S AN R FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT USING R FIVE A RULES THE RESULT, THEY GET THREE STORY HEIGHT IN TOWN HOME DENSITY, BUT THEY COMPLETELY DODGE TOWN HOME. STRUCTURAL AND SAFETY REQUIREMENTS WIN-WIN FOR THE DEVELOPER. A PD SHOULD PROTECT US, NOT EXPLOIT US. SO LOOK AT THE RESULT. THREE STORY HOMES CRAMMED ONTO TINY 1,980 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. WORSE YET, IT IGNORES OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. NO DRIVEWAYS TO PARK ON NARROW PRIVATE DRIVES WITH NO STREET PARKING. THIS ISN'T INCREMENTAL GROWTH, IT'S OVERDEVELOPMENT. IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THIS WAY. SHARRE PARK ALSO TRANSITIONED FROM R 1680 TO A PD, BUT HOMES THERE WERE CAPPED AT TWO STORIES AND ON LARGER 4,300 SQUARE FOOT LOTS. WE ARE NOT AGAINST PROGRESS, WE ARE AGAINST DECEPTION. SO PLEASE PROTECT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. PLEASE VOTE NO THANK YOU. KATIE FORD. MY NAME IS KATIE FORD. I LIVE AT 22 WIMBERLEY COURT. BEFORE YOU GUYS VOTE TODAY, I WANT TO CLEARLY EXPLAIN, [03:25:01] EXPLAIN WHERE THE CASE STANDS. THE CURRENT PROPOSAL CONTAINS 37 HOMES, 25 OF THEM, TWO STORY, 12 OF THEM, THREE STORY. THAT MEANS NEARLY ONE THIRD OF THE DEVELOPMENT IS STILL THREE STORIES. THESE 12 THREE STORY HOMES WOULD SIT ON THE SMALLEST PADS OF ONLY 945 SQUARE FEET. THE HEIGHT AND MASS ARE NOT COMPATIBLE TO THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. WE SUPPORT NEW HOUSING AND WE OFFERED A REASONABLE COMPROMISE. 33 HOMES ALL LIMITED TO TWO STORY WITH A MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30 FEET. THAT IS JUST FOUR FEWER HOMES. BUT IT ELIMINATES THE THREE STORIES. OUR DISTRICT COUNCIL REPRESENTATIVE AND THE DEVELOPER DEVELOPER KNEW THIS BEFORE THE AUGUST 25, 20 FIFTH DEFERRAL. THAT THREE, THREE STORY HOMES WERE THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S MAIN CONCERN. YET THE LATEST PLANS STILL INCLUDES 12 OF THEM. WE'RE NOT ASKING YOU TO STOP DEVELOPMENT. WE ARE NOT A, WE ONLY ASK FOR ONE CLEAR PROTECTION, NO THREE STORY HOMES NEXT TO THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. PURCHASING A HOME IS A IS THE SINGLE LARGEST INVESTMENT MOST OF US MAKE. THE FINAL PD MUST STATE IN WRITING A MAXIMUM OF TWO STORIES AND A MAXIMUM OF 30 FEET IN HEIGHT. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK OUR DISTRICT 13 REPRESENTATIVE TO STAND WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SUPPORT THESE TWO STORIES. IF THIS CASE CANNOT BE APPROVED WITH THOSE PROTECTIONS, I RESPECTFULLY ASK COUNSEL TO VOTE AGAINST IT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. CATHERINE RAFTER. CATHERINE RAFTER. HELLO. HELLO, CATHERINE, CAN YOU YES. OH, WE, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. MY NAME IS CATHERINE RAFTER. I'M AT 1 0 1 4 1 BETTY JANE LANE, AND THAT IS 278 FITBIT STEPS FROM THE PROPERTY'S DRIVEWAY. UM, IT, THE BETTY JANE LANE IS ACTUALLY SEVEN FITBIT STEPS, UH, WIDE. SO THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE AND HAD ON ALL ALONG ARE AROUND, UH, TRAFFIC, INCREASED TRAFFIC. UH, RIGHT NOW, TRASH TRUCKS WHEN THEY'RE ON OUR STREET, UH, CARS HAVE TO WAIT FOR THEM TO GO BY BECAUSE IT'S NOT WIDE ENOUGH FOR THE TRASH PICKUP AND A CAR TO PASS THE OTHER DIRECTION. YOU'VE HEARD THE OTHER ISSUES THAT WE ALL AGREE WITHIN. THE PEOPLE HERE AGREE WITHIN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD, IT'S TOO MUCH, TOO DENSE, TOO HIGH. AND, UM, AND THAT THE, I LOVE IT WHAT JULIA SAID, THE LEAPFROGGING OF ZONING REGULATIONS JUST KIND OF APPALLS US AND THAT TAKES AWAY CREDIBILITY FROM CITY GOVERNMENT ACTUALLY. SO WE'RE ALL HERE PLEADING WITH YOU SAYING, PLEASE DENY THIS. UM, WITH THE ACCEPT, UH, PLEASE ACCEPT IT. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE, UH, THREE STORIES. WE ARE REALLY PUSHING FOR TWO STORIES. UM, THE OTHER THING I WANNA MENTION IS, UH, WE ARE SO SORRY THAT, THAT OUR COUNCIL MEMBER WAS PUT IN THAT SITUATION THE LAST TIME WE MET. AND THE FIRST THING I THOUGHT ABOUT WAS, OKAY, UH, THE DEVELOPER WAS LUCY AND PULLED THE FOOTBALL AWAY FROM, UH, CHARLIE BROWN. AND, AND WE THOUGHT THAT, BY THE WAY, UH, MEMBER, UH, WILLIS, WE THINK YOU DID A GREAT JOB IN TRY IN KEEPING US INFORMED AND LETTING US KNOW WHAT THE NEXT STEPS WERE. SO WE DON'T BLAME YOU AT ALL. WE KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU HAD OUR BEST INTEREST IN MIND, UH, IN TRYING TO RESOLVE THIS. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THAT'S ALL MY TIME. AND AGAIN, UH, NO TWO STORIES. THANK YOU. CHRISTINA WILKERSON, CAN YOU HEAR ME? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU AND SEE YOU. YOU MAY CONTINUE. HI, UH, MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. MY NAME IS CHRISTINA WILKERSON AND I LIVE AT 23 LILEY COURT. RIGHT NEXT TO THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT, MY HUSBAND AND MYSELF ARE RAISING TWO YOUNG CHILDREN AT OUR HOUSE. [03:30:02] I WANT TO FOCUS ON TWO THINGS THAT'S WRONG WITH THIS DEVELOPMENT, THE LIVABILITY PROBLEMS THIS BLANK CREATES, AND THE FACT THAT IT DOESN'T FIT INTO THE EXISTING ZONING LAWS THAT IT CLAIMS TO FOLLOW. STARTING WITH THE DENSITY, THIS PLAN HAS 37 HOMES ONTO 3.7 ACRES WITH ONLY FIVE ISH FEET BETWEEN AND STANDS THREE STORIES TALL ON A LOT OF THESE, ON A LOT OF THESE THREE STORY HOUSES. THAT'S NOT A NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S MORE OF A CANYON. RESEARCH LINKS CROWDING LIKE THIS TO ELEVATED STRESS AND WORSE MENTAL HEALTH OUTCOMES. A REAL RISK FOR FAMILIES AND SCHOOL CHILDREN WHO LIVE BESIDE IT. THE IDEA OF PARKING IS ALSO BROKEN. 101 SPACES FOR 37 HOMES SOUNDS FINE UNTIL YOU REALIZE THAT EVERY RESIDENT PARKED IN THEIR OWN GARAGE. ONLY 19 GUEST SPACES REMAIN, AND THERE'S NOT A LOT OF STREET PARKING ALLOWED. IT GETS EVEN TIGHT AROUND OUR AREA, ESPECIALLY ON BETTY JANE AT NIGHT. THE ZONING DOESN'T HOLD UP EITHER. STAFF CALLS THIS PLANNED DEVELOPMENT BASED ON THE R FIVE, BUT IT CARRIES SO MANY EXCEPTIONS TO LOT SIZE, HEIGHT. AND THE UNIT COUNT THAT A COMMISSIONER OF THIS BODY ALREADY SET ITS SKIRTS AROUND OUR ZONING LAWS. OUR ZONING EXISTS TO PROTECT IMMEDIATE DENSITY SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS. THIS PLAN'S DESTINY CONTRADICTS THAT IT DOESN'T FIT WITHIN IT. AND FINALLY, SOMETHING THAT I AM PARTICULARLY CONCERNED ABOUT IS THE TRAFFIC. THIS DEVELOPMENT COULD DOUBLE THE TRAFFIC ON BETTY JANE LANE, A STREET THAT HAS NO SHOULDERS AND NO SIDEWALKS. THIS IS THE SAME STREET THAT MY KIDS AND MYSELF WALK DOWN EVERY SINGLE DAY. WE'RE HOPING TO EVEN WALK TO SCHOOL WITH NO LEFT HAND TURN EXIT ONTO WALNUT HILL. THAT'S EVEN MORE TRAFFIC GETTING PUSHED ONTO BETTY JANE LANE. THIS PLAN, AS IT CURRENTLY STANDS, FAILS THE PEOPLE WHO ALREADY LIVE HERE WITH LIVABILITY, ZONING INTEGRITY AND STREET SAFETY. I'M ASKING THE COUNCIL TO REJECT IT AS WRITTEN AND IF TO APPROVE THAT THEY APPROVE IT WITH THE EXCEPTION THAT THERE ARE NO THREE STORY HOMES ON THIS DEVELOPMENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU PETER SOMERVILLE, MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. UH, I'M HERE TO OPPOSE THE, UH, CONCEPTUAL PLAN AND PLAN CONDITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED, THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL TODAY. THE MAIN, UH, OBJECTION THAT I HAVE IS DO OTHERS IN MY NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT NO THREE STORIES, UH, DETACHED TOWNHOME THAT, UH, ARE BEING PROPOSED. IT'S ALSO MISLEADING TO CALL THIS DEVELOPMENT THE DEVELOPMENT OF PATIO HOMES, WHICH BY DEFINITION ARE ONE TO ONE AND A HALF STORIES IN HEIGHT. WE WOULD WELCOME PATIO HOMES, UH, YOU KNOW, IN LIEU OF WHAT'S BEEN PROPOSED, EVEN THE TWO STORY, UH, HOUSES WE WOULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE OFFERED THAT, YOU KNOW, ON NUMEROUS OCCASIONS, OUR AREA RESIDENTS HAVE CONSISTENTLY OPPOSED THE THREE STORY HOMES. AND THERE ARE NO OTHER THREE STORY HOMES WITHIN THE RESIDENTIAL ZONED ZONED AREAS OF WALNUT HILL OR SURROUNDING, UH, COMMUNITIES. AS I MENTIONED, ALSO, 36 FOOT DWELLINGS ARE NOT PERMITTED IN R 16 TO R FIVE ZONINGS. SO IT'S A, YOU KNOW, THIS DEVELOPMENT DOESN'T EVEN MEET THE R FIVE STANDARDS. THE ONLY WAY FOR THIS DEVELOPMENT TO BE COMPLIANT IS TO IGNORE THE R FIVE STANDARDS FOR SETBACK SIDEWALK STREET BUILDING HEIGHTS, AND TO CREATE A NON-CONFORMING PLANNED DEVELOPMENT WITH A SHARED ACCESS DRIVEWAY. THE CITY HAS NO STANDARDS FOR SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT. THAT IS A PROBLEM THAT WAS RECOGNIZED IN A STUDY THAT THE CITY COMMISSIONED LAST YEAR. AND I BELIEVE THAT THE CITY SHOULD WITHHOLD APPROVING PLAN DEVELOPMENTS WITH SHARED ACCESS DRIVEWAYS UNTIL THEY DEVELOP SOME STANDARDS. SO I REQUEST APPROVAL TO BE CONDITIONED TODAY ON A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT SATISFIES ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF R FIVE ZONING AND ABSENT THAT, THAT THE COUNCIL DENY THE APPLICATION. IN ADDITION, AS I MENTIONED, THE CITY SHOULD CEASE CONSIDERING PLANT OR SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT UNTIL STANDARDS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. HONORABLE PHILLIP [03:35:01] KINGSTON. HI ALL. UH, PHILIP KINGSTON 37 0 1 TURTLE CREEK. UM, MEANT TO HAVE A SHINY PRESENTATION FOR YOU, BUT OF COURSE THE WEBEX LINK DOESN'T WORK. UM, THE, UH, THIS PROJECT HAS, UH, OVER TIME DEVELOPED, I THINK SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFICIALLY, UH, IN THE INTEREST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UM, WE ARE NOW AT 37 HOUSES. UM, ONLY A FEW OF THEM ARE THREE STORY. THE ONES IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT OF THE DEVELOPMENT RIGHT NEXT TO THE CITY'S FIRE STATION AT 40 FEET TALL. UM, NEIGHBORS IN THE WALNUT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, UM, WILL ONLY BE ABLE TO SEE THESE HOUSES FROM WALNUT HILL, NOT FROM THEIR HOUSES. UM, AND SO I THINK, I THINK THAT'S AN IMPORTANT POINT TO MAKE. ADDITIONALLY, WHILE IT IS TRUE THAT THERE ARE NO OTHER THREE STORY HOUSES IN THE WALNUT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION, THERE ARE MANY THAT ARE UP TO 36 FEET TALL. UM, AND SO IN SOME WAYS WE WERE BEING ASKED TO, UH, ACCEPT LESS THAN THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS THE RIGHT TO DO. UM, SO I THINK WE HAVE, UH, REALLY WORKED WITH THE COMMUNITY TO BRING THIS INTO COMPLIANCE. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE OPPORTUNITIES THAT WAS UNFORTUNATELY CREATED BY THE TORNADO. UM, IN FOR DALLAS. UM, THE VERY SPECIFIC AMENDMENTS THAT WERE MADE TO THE COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL PLACE TYPE WERE TO EXCLUDE MULTIFAMILY, UM, AND TO RELY ON SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING OR DUPLEX, IN THIS CASE JUST SINGLE FAMILY HOUSING. AND THIS IS AT THE EDGE OF A NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WAS ANOTHER VERY SPECIFIC AMENDMENT TO FOR DALLAS. THIS IS THE BORDER BETWEEN A COMMUNITY, RETAIL, PLACE TYPE AND COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL. UM, SO IT DOES ACT AS A BUFFER, WHICH IS A WORD MANY OF YOU USED IN ADOPTING FORWARD DALLAS TO THE EXISTING STABLE SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOOD. I CANNOT EMPHASIZE ENOUGH THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WILL LIVE HERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO BE IN THIS EXCELLENT NEIGHBORHOOD. THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO IMPROVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD WHERE THEY CHOOSE TO LIVE. THEY WILL BE OWNERS. THEY WILL HAVE, UM, HOA RULES PROHIBITING SHORT TERM RENTAL, SOMETHING AGAIN, THAT IS NOT PROHIBITED IN THE WALNUT HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. UM, AND SO I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS CREATING AN ADDITION TO THIS COMMUNITY THAT WILL IMPROVE EVERYONE'S POSITION IN THE COMMUNITY. UM, THESE ARE, I THINK AFTER WORKING THROUGH THIS FOR SO MANY, UH, ITERATIONS, I THINK WE HAVE REACHED SOMETHING THAT COULD BE A GOOD EXAMPLE FOR OTHER SIMILARLY SITUATED NEIGHBORHOODS. THANKS SO MUCH. I'M AROUND FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I'LL NOW CALL THE NEXT GROUP OF SPEAKERS. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE COME FORWARD AND HAVE A SEAT ON THE FIRST THREE ROWS OF THIS CENTER SECTION IN ANY VIRTUAL SPEAKERS, PLEASE HAVE YOUR CAMERA AND VIDEO READY. ROBERT, BRET, MARLA, MARLA HARTSELL, TRICIA PITTMAN AND BAUM. CHRISTINA GOFF. TINA ELLI, DEBBIE BECK, SARAH FULMER. LAURA BAGUETTE, JEFFREY CARGO. AND ALEX HEL BRENNER. ROBERT. BRET, YOU MAY COME TO THE PODIUM. OKAY. ROBERT BCK IS NOT PRESENT. MARLER HAREL. I'M HERE. CAN YOU HEAR ME AND SEE ME? YES, WE CAN. YOU MAY CONTINUE. WONDERFUL. I ALSO WANT TO JUST SPEAK ON BEHALF OF DAVE ROGERS. HE WAS NOT ABLE, UM, TO JOIN TODAY. YOU HEARD HIS NAME CALLED EARLIER HE HAD A, A ISSUE WITH HIS SON'S HEALTH. SO I'M GONNA READ A LETTER THAT HE ACTUALLY SHARED WITH ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS LAST NIGHT. SO I STAND SCRIPT, BUT THAT'S WHAT I'M ABOUT TO SHARE. SOME OF YOU MAY HAVE SEEN IT THIS MORNING, HOPEFULLY. UM, I'M THE VICE PRESIDENT OF THE WALNUT HILL HOME INTEREST ASSOCIATION AND DAVE IS THE PRESIDENT. UM, AND OUR BOARD, UM, CREATED THIS TOGETHER. WALNUT HILL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION APPRECIATES THE ASSISTANT COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS. UM, YOUR CONTINUED ASSISTANCE TO THE REVIEW OF [03:40:01] THIS APPLICATION, YOUR FACILITATION OF MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH CRESCENT ESTATES WILLINGNESS TO LISTEN TO NEIGHBORHOOD QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS AND EFFORTS TO KEEP RESIDENTS INFORMED HAVE BEEN HELPFUL AND CONSTRUCTIVE OVER THE PAST YEAR. AS WE ALL KNOW, CRESCENT ESTATES HAS ENGAGED WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MADE SEVERAL MEANINGFUL CHANGES FROM THE ORIGINAL PLAN, INCLUDING MODIFICATIONS THAT ADDRESS CONCERNS RAISED BY NEARBY RESIDENTS ALONG WEMBERLEY COURT, ANDEL COURT, AND MORE RECENT CHANGES RESULTING FROM YOUR REQUEST TO DEFER THE CASE TO TODAY. THE WHHA RECOGNIZES THOSE IMPROVEMENTS AND BELIEVES THE PROPOSED PROJECT WILL RESULT IN DEVELOPMENT THAT WOULD MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. BUT AT THE SAME TIME, OUR BOARD CONTINUES TO HAVE SPECIFIC CONCERNS REGARDING THE PROPOSED THREE STORY SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED HOMES. SEVERAL EXISTING PROPERTIES THAT ARE LIKELY TO BE REDEVELOPED IN THE NEXT FIVE TO 10 YEARS ARE DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO OR NEAR THIS SITE. AND OUR BOARD IS CONCERNED THAT APPROVAL OF THIS PLAN DEVELOPMENT COULD BE CITED AS PRECEDENT FOR SIMILAR HEIGHT AND DENSITY REQUESTS ON OTHER NEARBY PROPERTIES. THIS CONCERN IS NOT INTENDED TO REDUCE THE PROGRESS MADE. RATHER THE BOARD ASKS THAT THE CITY CAREFULLY CONSIDER WHETHER APPROPRIATE LIMITATIONS OR SITE SPECIFIC SAFEGUARDS COULD ADDRESS NEIGHBORS CONCERNS. ALLOWING A WELL-DESIGNED DEVELOPMENT TO MOVE FORWARD, CONSISTING OF TWO STORY HOMES ONLY TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMUNITY INPUT. WE CONDUCTED A NEIGHBORHOOD POLL JUST THE LAST FEW DAYS. THE RESULTS ARE SUMMARIZED AND I'M GONNA SHARE THEM WITH YOU HERE. BASICALLY, WE DISTRIBUTED TO OUR ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE HAD 271 PEOPLE OPEN THE SURVEY. THE QUESTIONS WERE, ARE YOU FAMILIAR WITH THIS? AND THEN, BASED ON WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT IS YOUR POSITION? WE HAD 85% SAY THEY'RE FAMILIAR. UM, 15% WAS NOT, WERE NOT FAMILIAR. AND WE HAD 66% IN OPPOSITION, 21% IN SUPPORT, AND 13% UNDECIDED. SO I WANT YOU TO SEE OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OVERWHELMINGLY, UM, AND THE FURTHER AWAY YOU MOVE, PROBABLY PEOPLE ARE NOT AS INTERESTED IN THIS, BUT THEY OPPOSE THIS DEVELOPMENT. AS IT STANDS, THE BOARD RECOGNIZES THAT RESIDENTS, MAYBE THAT IS YOUR TIME. THAT'S FINE. THANKS SEAN. I APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. TRICIA PITTMAN. TRICIA PITTMAN. IT'S NOT OKAY. HI, I'M CHURCH OF PITTMAN AT 22 WIMBERLEY COURT. AS YOU CAN SEE BY THE AGENDA, WE HAVE A LOT TO COVER. SO LET'S WORK TOGETHER TO BUILD AND PROTECT HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. HERE'S A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE ARE OPPOSING. UH, BOTH PARTIES HAVE MADE CONCESSIONS, BUT THERE IS ONE ISSUE REMAINS, WHICH IS THE PROPOSED MAXIMUM HEIGHT LIMIT. THE COMMUNITY HAS SUPPORTED THE DEVELOPMENT OF THIS PROPERTY FROM THE VERY BEGINNING, AND WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN WILLING TO SUPPORT A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DENSITY. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER ONE DEVELOPER SHOULD RECEIVE A SPECIAL EXEMPTION OR EXCEPTION TO BUILD HOMES TALLER THAN EVERY OTHER SINGLE FAMILY HOME IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, WHICH WILL ONLY OPEN THE DOOR THAT WE CANNOT CLOSE FOR ALL OTHER DEVELOPERS, THE DEVELOPERS' TOWNHOMES BEING BUILT NEARBY SHOULD NOT BE USED TO JUSTIFY THE HEIGHT OR DENSITY FOR THIS PROJECT. THOSE ARE TOWNHOMES. SO DIFFERENT PRODUCT, NO DIRECT ACCESS TO RESIDENTIAL STREETS, ADJACENT PROPERTIES OF MUCH HIGHER USE. AND BECAUSE OF THE SEVERITY OF THE SLOPE OF THE PROPERTY, THE HOT WILL HAVE VERY LITTLE IMPACT TO THE NEIGHBORS. AND BY THE WAY, THIS, BECAUSE OF THAT, THESE NEIGHBORS HERE SUPPORTED THAT PROJECT. THE EXTRA SIX FEET IS A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE ESTABLISHED STANDARD THAT APPLIES TO EVERYONE ELSE. IT ENABLES GREATER DENSITY ON MUCH SMALLER, LOTS RESULTING IN MORE TRAFFIC, MORE PARKING PRESSURE, AND HOMES THAT ARE OUT OF SCALE WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD, THIS HIGHLY SOUGHT AFTER NEIGHBORHOOD OFFERS THE OPPORTUNITY TO BUILD YOUR DREAM HOME WITHOUT LEAVING THE CITY. FOR THE SUBURBS KNOWN FOR ITS LARGE LOTS AND TREELINE STREETS, IT IS A PLACE WHERE RESIDENTS WALK THEIR DOGS AND BIKE WITH THEIR CHILDREN. THERE ARE NEW MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES GOING IN ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT ARE CONSTANTLY IMPROVING THE LANDSCAPE. THERE ARE ACTUALLY MULTIMILLION DOLLAR HOMES THAT FACES THIS PROPERTY. THEY REFLECT A DIVERSE MIX OF ARCHITECTURAL STYLES AND YET ALL OF THEM ARE HELD TO THE EXISTING STANDARDS. WE ASK FOR ONE SIMPLE, REASONABLE CONDITION AND HOLD THE DEVELOPMENT TO THE SAME 30 FOOT HEIGHT LIMIT AS SURROUNDING HOMEOWNERS LIVING THE HEIGHT PRESERVES NA NEIGHBORHOOD COMPATIBILITY, PROTECTS EXISTING RESIDENTS AND STILL SHOWS MEANINGFUL GROWTH DENSITY FAR GREATER THAN WHAT EXISTS TODAY. SIX [03:45:01] FEET MAY NOT SOUND LIKE A LOT, BUT IN THIS CASE THOSE SIX FEET MAKE ALL THE DIFFERENCE. AND IT IS THAT ONE CONDITION THAT WOULD MAKE THIS PROPOSAL MORE BALANCED, MORE COMPATIBLE AND MORE FAIR. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU DO NOT APPROVE THE DEVELOPER'S APPLICATION WITHOUT THIS ONE ESSENTIAL CONDITION. PLEASE LIMIT IT TO MAXIMUM, UH, HEIGHT OF 30 FOR ALL UNITS. AND SINCE I'M THE NEIGHBORHOOD SPOKESPERSON, I'M AVAILABLE FOR QUESTIONS AFTER THIS PRESENTATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. AND BAUM. HI, I'M ANN BAUM. I LIVE AT 26 WIMBERLEY COURT. ORIGINALLY I WAS GONNA WALK YOU THROUGH THE PROPOSED PLAN BY THE DEVELOPER, BUT EVERYBODY KNOWS, WE ALL KNOW IT'S 37 HOMES ON VERY SMALL LOTS. AND ORIGINALLY WE WERE VERY OPPOSED TO THAT AND WE, WE'VE COMPROMISED ON THAT POINT NOW AND WE'VE COMPROMISED ON NO FRONT YARDS AND SMALL SIDE YARDS AND, UH, SMALL SHARED ACCESS, STREET AND SMALL DRIVEWAYS WITH LIMITED PARKING. THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN SHOWS 19 VISITOR PARKING SPACES. HOWEVER, THE LANGUAGE OF THE PD ONLY GUARANTEES ABOUT 13. THE HEIGHT OF THE HOMES IS OUR MAJOR ISSUE AND IT'S ONE THAT WE REALLY DON'T WANT TO BUDGE ON. 12 OF THE HOMES WILL BE THREE STORIES HIGH AND THESE HOMES ARE DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET, ACROSS WALNUT HILL FROM DISTRICT SIX. AND THERE ARE MANY EXISTING HOMES IN THESE AREAS IN DISTRICT SIX AND IN WALNUT HILL THAT ARE BEING TORN DOWN AND REPLACED WITH NEW CONSTRUCTION. SO IF THREE STORY HOMES ARE ALLOWED IN THIS DEVELOPMENT, WHO'S TO PREVENT FUTURE TEAR DOWNS FROM BECOMING THREE STORY HOME HERE AND HERE AND HERE AND HERE. JUST WHEREVER THEY WANT TO BE IF THE PRECEDENT IS SAID. SO IF YOU TAKE A LOOK AT THIS, THIS NEXT SLIDE, THE DEVELOPER'S CONCEPTUAL PLANS ON THE LEFT, AND WE KIND OF SEE A SOLUTION ON THE RIGHT HERE. UM, AND THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT, YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE REMOVAL OF ONE HOME IN EACH OF THE ROW OF THREE STORY HOMES WOULD INCREASE THE PAD SIZE OF THE STRUCTURES AND BRING THE DEVELOPMENT ENTIRELY TO TWO STORIES. THIS SOLUTION WAS SUGGESTED TO THE DEVELOPER AND THE RESPONSE WAS, NO, THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK. IT IS NOT OUR JOB TO MAKE THEIR NUMBERS WORK. IT'S NOT THE JOB OF THE CITY COUNCIL TO MAKE THEIR NUMBERS WORK. ZONING CODES EXIST TO PRESERVE THE INTEGRITY, CHARACTER, AND QUALITY OF OUR NEIGHBORHOODS NOT TO MAXIMIZE A DEVELOPER'S PROFIT MARGIN. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. CHRISTINA GOFF. HI, MY NAME'S CHRISTINA GOFF. I LIVE AT 38 51 BUTELL COURT, WHICH IS THE HOME IMMEDIATELY ACROSS THE ALLEY FROM THIS DEVELOPMENT. UM, SO WHEN WE FIRST WERE PRESENTED WITH THIS PROPOSAL, UM, LAST YEAR, LAST FALL, THE 500 FOOT RADIUS NEIGHBORS WERE ASKED TO VOTE. UM, AND 97% OF US OPPOSED THE PROPOSAL. BY THE WAY, OF THE 3%, YOU'LL NOTICE THAT TWO OF THOSE LOTS ARE OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER. SO, UM, THE REASON WHY PEOPLE SAID THEY OPPOSED THIS VERY CLEARLY WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT THREE STORY HOMES. AND IT'S NOT WITH ALL DUE RESPECT BECAUSE WE DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THREE STORY HOMES. I'LL TELL YOU, I DON'T WANNA LOOK AT THREE STORY HOMES, BUT THE CURRENT PROPOSAL DOESN'T HAVE ME LOOKING AT THREE STORY HOMES. I DON'T WANNA SET THE PRECEDENT THAT THREE STORY HOMES CAN BE BUILT IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. AND SO WHILE YOU KNOW A FEW, BUT BY MY MATH 12 IS A THIRD OF THE PROPOSED HOMES ARE THREE STORY, THE PRECEDENT IS SET EVEN IF ONE IS THREE STORY RIGHT? UM, AND FRANKLY, UM, AS ANNE REFERENCED, THERE'S, THERE'S NO ASSURANCE THAT THAT WON'T START HAPPENING EVERYWHERE IF WE ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN HERE. THE NUMBERS DON'T WORK, JUST DOESN'T WORK FOR ME BECAUSE WE WENT FROM 60 TO 37. I'M PRETTY SURE THE MATH ISN'T SO CLOSE OF A MARGIN THAT 33 NOW DOESN'T WORK. UM, AND OUR OPPOSITION ISN'T LIMITED, RIGHT? IT'S NOT MY STREET AND WIMBERLEY COURT THAT SAYS, OH, WE DON'T LIKE THIS. IT'S THE ENTIRE WALNUT HILL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION AS REPRESENTED JUST JUST A MINUTE AGO BY MARLEY, THE WIMBERLEY COURT HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION, THE NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION OF DALLAS, THE CHURCHES IN THE SURROUNDING AREA. IT IS A VERY BROAD OPPOSITION, RIGHT? AND OUR CONCERNS ARE THE SAME ACROSS THE ENTIRE DISTRICT ABOUT ALL OF THIS REZONING THAT IS BEING BUILT UPON, UM, AND WHAT DIRECTION IT'S TAKING US IN. WE WANT GROWTH. WE WANT MORE DENSITY. WE WANT SOMETHING THOUGH THAT IS SAFE FOR THE EXISTING NEIGHBORS, FOR THEIR FAMILIES, FOR THE TRAFFIC THAT WE ALL CONTEND WITH EVERY DAY. WE WANT SOMETHING THAT IS GOING TO SET A PRECEDENT THAT IS SUSTAINABLE AND IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO CREATE [03:50:01] AND REAFFIRM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT WE LIVE IN AND NOT OPEN US UP TO A COMPLETELY NEW TREND IN DEVELOPMENTS. UM, AND SO WHAT IT ULTIMATELY BOILS DOWN TO, AS REITERATED OVER AND OVER AGAIN FOR US IS THAT WE WOULD LIKE YES, LESS DENSITY A LITTLE BIT, JUST A LITTLE BIT. WE WOULD LIKE LESS TRAFFIC AND MORE THOUGHTFUL PLANNING FOR PARKING. BUT MORE THAN ANYTHING, WE JUST DON'T WANT THE PRECEDENT TO SET THAT THREE STORY HOMES ARE ACCEPTABLE. WE ASK THAT YOU PLEASE CONSIDER APPROVING THIS ONLY WITH THE STIPULATION THAT THERE BE NO THREE STORY HOMES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. TINA ELLI, SHE'S NOT YOU. I'M SORRY. YOU TINA? NO. OKAY. SHE'S NOT, SHE'S NOT PRESENT. OKAY. NOT PRESENT. DEBBIE BECK, HER EITHER. OKAY. DEBBIE BECK NOT PRESENT. SARAH FULMER. SO YOU'RE STUCK WITH ME . UM, HI UH, GOOD AFTERNOON BOARD. MY NAME IS SARAH FULMER AND I LIVE AT 26 WIMBERLEY COURT. I'M ACTUALLY PRESENTING TODAY ON BEHALF OF LAURA BAGOT OF COP LANE, WHO IS AN ARCHITECT BY TRADE. AND SHE HAS SPOKEN AT EVERY HEARING LEADING UP TO TODAY, BUT UNFORTUNATELY SHE COULD NOT BE WITH US DUE TO A FAMILY EMERGENCY. SO I'M SPEAKING FOR BOTH OF US. UM, IF YOU'LL LOOK AT THE FIRST SLIDE HERE FROM THE BEGINNING, NEIGHBORS. NEIGHBORS WERE PREPARED TO ACCEPT DENSITY THAT WAS DOUBLE OR TRIPLE WHAT EXISTS AROUND US. BUT EVEN WHEN THE, WITH THE LATEST PROPOSAL, THIS PLAN STILL VIOLATES THE DENSITY LIMITS AND THE DEVELOPER'S OWN ZONING APPLICATION. I KNOW WE'RE REPEATING OURSELVES, BUT THIS IS REALLY IMPORTANT. AND FREQUENCY MATTERS. WE'RE ALL HAVE A CONSENSUS OF BEING ON THE SAME PAGE HERE. WE HAVE COMPROMISED ON EVERY PART OF THE PD EXCEPT ONE, NO THREE STORY HOMES, LOT SIZE DISCREPANCY. THE PROPOSED LOTS REMAIN FAR SMALLER THAN BOTH THE BASE ZONE AND SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. IN SOME CASES DIFFERING BY MORE THAN 14,000 SQUARE FEET. WE ARE NOT ASKING FOR THE STATUS QUO. WE ARE ASKING FOR DENSITY THAT FITS THE CHARACTER AND SCALE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE KIND OF CHANGE THAT STRENGTHENS IT RATHER THAN OVERWHELMS IT. THE REAL QUESTION IS HOW MUCH INTENSITY CAN THIS SITE ABSORB WHILE STILL PROTECTING THE HEALTH CONDITIONS OF EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS? HEIGHT IS MEASURED FROM MIDPOINT OF A ROOF, NOT THE LOWEST POINT. THIS IS A TECHNICAL DETAIL I WAS NOT AWARE OF AND IT'S OFTEN OVERLOOKED AND MISUNDERSTOOD. A 36 FOOT HOME IS SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE. A 36 3 STORY HOME IS SIMPLY NOT COMPATIBLE, ESPECIALLY FOR RESIDENTS ALONG WALNUT HILL AND DISTRICT SIX WHO WILL NOW FACE THESE OUT OF SCALE STRUCTURES EVERY DAY. MR. KINGSTON DIDN'T MENTION THAT PART. HE MENTIONED THE HOMES NEXT TO THE FIRE STATION, BUT NOT THE PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET THAT HAVE TO LOOK AT THESE HOMES AND ALLOWING EVEN ONE THREE STORY HOME SETS. A PRECEDENT SHOULD NEVER BE INTRODUCED HERE. OUR RESPONSIBILITY IS TO ENSURE LONG-TERM NEIGHBORHOOD STABILITY. STABILITY THAT ALIGNS WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0 RATHER THAN CONTRADICTED. THAT IS THE STANDARD WE SHOULD APPLY, NOT THE DEVELOPER'S FINANCIAL MODEL OR THEIR DESIRE TO MAXIMIZE PROFIT. THOSE OF US OPPOSING THREE STORY HOMES HAVE NEVER MADE THIS ABOUT PROPERTY VALUES EVER. SO WHY SHOULD PROFIT OVERRIDE REASONABLE CONTEXTUAL POLICY ALIGNED DENSITY? OUR COMPROMISE IS BALANCED CONSISTENT WITH CITY POLICY AND RESPECTFUL OF NEIGHBORHOOD HEALTH. THE DEVELOPERS IS JUST NOT. THANK YOU. LAURA BAGOT IS NOT PRESENT. JEFFREY CARGILL, GOOD AFTERNOON, I'M JEFFREY CARGILL. I'M AT 1 0 3 3 6 COTTAGE LANE AND I'M HERE TO ADDRESS THE PROPOSED PD AND THE STAFF'S CONCLUSION THAT IT IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH FORD DALLAS 2.0. I RESPECTFULLY DISAGREE. STAFFS ANALYSIS APPEARS TO GIVE TOO MUCH WEIGHT TO THE PROJECT, SINGLE FAMILY LABEL AND NOT ENOUGH WEIGHT TO WHAT FORD DALLAS ACTUALLY REQUIRES. COMPATIBILITY, NEIGHBORHOOD CONTEXT, INCREMENTAL CHANGE AND MEANINGFUL CONSIDERATION OF COMMUNITY INPUT. FORD DALLAS SUPPORTS INCREASED INCREASING HOUSING BUT WAS MEANT TO SET GUARDRAILS. COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS CHANGE IS SUPPOSED TO BE GENTLE, EQUITABLE, INCREMENTAL AND SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING CONTEXT. THIS PROPOSAL IS NOT GENTLE OR INCREMENTAL. IT ALLOWS 37 HOMES ON APPROXIMATELY 3.7 ACRES WITH MINIMUM LOT SIZES OF LESS THAN 2000 SQUARE FEET. 60% LOT COVERAGE, REDUCED SETBACKS AND HEIGHTS UP TO 36 FEET IN AN AREA SURROUNDED BY ESTABLISHED R 10, [03:55:01] R 16 AND SINGLE FAMILY DEVELOPMENT. THIS IS A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN OF DISTRICT 13 AND DISTRICT SIX, WHICH IS DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FOR DALLAS, FOCUSES ON WHETHER A PROJECT FITS THE NEIGHBORHOOD, NOT SIMPLY WHAT IT IS CALLED HERE. THE DENSITY LOT DIMENSIONS, HEIGHT AND OVERALL DEVELOPMENT PATTERN ARE MUCH CLOSER TO A TOWN HOME STYLE PROJECT RATHER THAN THE SURROUNDING SINGLE FAMILY CONTEXT. STAFF ALSO FAILED TO GIVE MEANINGFUL WEIGHT TO THE COMMUNITY'S OPPOSITION. EVEN THOUGH FORD DALLAS EXPRESSLY SAYS COMMUNITY INPUT SHOULD RECEIVE SIGNIFICANT WEIGHT IN DECISIONS AFFECTING COMMUNITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. THESE CONCERNS ARE NOT INCIDENTAL COMPATIBILITY SCALES, DENSITY, TRAFFIC, NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER, CHARACTER AND THE PRESERVATION OF STABLE RESIDENTIAL AREAS. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT SHOULD NEVER BE TREATED AS A BOX TO CHECK AND THEN DISREGARDED WHEN THE RESIDENTS RAISE THE VERY ISSUES. FORD DALLAS REQUIRES DECISION MAKERS TO CONSIDER. IF FORD DALLAS IS GOING TO BE CITED AS SUPPORT, UH, FOR THIS PD, THEN IT MUST BE APTLY APPLIED INCLUDING GIVING MEANINGFUL WAY TO THE RESIDENTS MOST DIRECTLY AFFECTED. FOR THESE REASONS, I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT COUNSEL NOT ACCEPT STAFF'S CONCLUSION THAT THIS PROPOSAL IS GENERALLY CONSISTENT WITH FORWARD DALLAS 2.0. THE PROJECT IS TOO DENSE, TOO INTENSE AND INCONSISTENT WITH THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD PATTERN. AT A MINIMUM I URGE YOU TO GIVE THE COMMUNITY'S OPPOSITION THE SIGNIFICANCE IT DESERVES BY ACCEPTING OUR REQUEST TO LIMIT THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF ALL UNITS TO 30 FEET. THANK YOU FOR SAFEGUARDING OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. THANK YOU ALEX ESHEL BRENNER. ALEX ESHEL RENNER 1 0 1 5 5 BETTY JANE LANE. GOOD AFTERNOON COUNCIL MEMBERS. WHEN WE STOOD BEFORE YOU LAST TIME, WE EXPRESSED THAT OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS NOT OPPOSED TO CHANGE. WE WERE ASKING FOR SOMETHING SIMPLE THOUGH BALANCE, SAFETY AND REASON. AND THAT REMAINS TRUE TODAY. WE ARE PRO DALLAS AND WE ARE PRO DEVELOPMENT. SO LONG AS IT'S REASONABLE, WE HAVE SPENT MONTHS TRYING TO BE COLLABORATIVE IN GOOD FAITH. WE HAVE LISTENED AND WE HAVE COMPROMISED AND WE HAVE CONTINUED SEARCHING FOR A SOLUTION THAT ALLOWS THIS PROPERTY TO BE DEVELOPED WHILE ALSO RESPECTING THE FAMILIES WHO ALREADY CALLED THIS NEIGHBORHOOD HOME. AND IMPORTANTLY, THIS COUNCIL HAS CONSIDERED THIS REZONING BEFORE AND VOTED IT DOWN. WE BELIEVE THAT YOU GOT THAT DECISION RIGHT. THE PROPOSAL YOU BEFORE YOU TODAY HAS CHANGED JUST SLIGHTLY. BUT THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM HAS NOT 36 FEET AND THREE STORIES. THAT HEIGHT SIMPLY DOES NOT BELONG ALONGSIDE AN ESTABLISHED NEIGHBORHOOD OF ONE AND TWO STORY HOMES. NOT TO MENTION THE PROPOSED DENSITY, NEARLY 10 HOMES PER ACRE IS DRAMATICALLY GREATER THAN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS STILL 3.6 TIMES AS DENSE AS OUR EXISTING PROPERTIES. AND I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT WHAT WE'RE ASKING BECAUSE IT'S NOT FOR THE PROPERTY TO REMAIN UNTOUCHED. WE WANT HOMES BUILT, WE WANT THE PROPERTY DEVELOPED, BUT IT HAS TO BE DONE REASONABLY. LIMIT THE HEIGHT TO 30 FEET AND TWO STORIES AND LET A THOUGHTFUL BUILDER CREATE SOMETHING THAT ADDS NEW HOMES WHILE RESPECTING THE NEIGHBORHOOD AROUND THEM. THAT IS GOOD DEVELOPMENT. FORWARD DALLAS CALLS FOR CHANGE IN EXISTING NEIGHBORHOODS TO BE INCREMENTAL AND SENSITIVE TO THE EXISTING CONTENT. THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE ASKING YOU TO PROTECT. THERE IS A REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT WAITING TO HAPPEN ON THIS PROPERTY AND WE WANT TO SUPPORT IT. BUT REASONABLE DEVELOPMENT REQUIRES REASONABLE LIMITS. SO TODAY WE ASK FOR YOUR CONSISTENCY. WE RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT YOU STAND WITH US AGAIN, REJECT THIS PROPOSAL AS WRITTEN OR REQUIRE A 30 FOOT TWO STORY MAXIMUM. GIVE US THE OPPORTUNITY TO WELCOME A DEVELOPMENT THAT BOTH DALLAS AND THIS NEIGHBORHOOD CAN BE PROUD OF. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR TIME, FOR YOUR ATTENTION AND FOR YOUR SERVICE TO OUR CITY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THOSE WERE YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE WHO HAVE NOT ADDRESSED THE CITY COUNCIL BUT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 11. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, UM, CHAIR WILLIS. UM, FOR WHAT PURPOSE? MOTION. ALRIGHT, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT PURPOSE. I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGE. ANIMAL PRODUCTION, COMMERCIAL STABLE AND PRIVATE STABLE MAIN USES ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT FOR SINGLE FAMILY STRUCTURES. MINIMUM ROOF PITCH IS THREE BY 12 FOR A SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT. MAXIMUM NUMBER OF DWELLING UNITS IS 37, MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 30 FEET FOR LOTS ADJACENT TO LOT THREE IN [04:00:01] CITY BLOCK C 6 2 2 4. IF SIDEWALK BUFFERS ON ADJACENT PORTIONS OF RIGHTS OF WAY ARE LESS THAN FIVE FEET, THE BUFFER MAY BE REDUCED TO BE CONSISTENT WITH ADJACENT SIDEWALK SEGMENTS AND SIDEWALKS ARE NOT REQUIRED. ALONG BETTY JANE LANE. SECOND, UH, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. UM, CHAIRMAN WILLS YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. FIRST OF ALL, THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO CAME TO CITY HALL TO SPEAK AND TO THOSE NEIGHBORS WHO HAVE EMAILED AND CALLED AND HAD MEETINGS SINCE THE DEVASTATING 2019 TORNADO. THIS 3.7 ACRE SITE, WHICH ONCE HELD A VIBRANT SCHOOL AND CHURCH HAS STOOD EMPTY. TODAY WE HAVE A UNIQUE OPPORTUNITY TO BREATHE NEW LIFE INTO THIS CORNER. THE PROPOSED PLAN INCLUDES A POCKET OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING, 37 THOUGHTFULLY DESIGNED PATIO HOMES, TAILORED FOR YOUNG FAMILIES, DOWNSIZERS AND WORKING PROFESSIONALS WHO WANNA CALL OUR DISTRICT HOME. I KNOW THIS CASE HAS BROUGHT OUT PASSIONATE OPINIONS, PARTICULARLY REGARDING BUILDING HEIGHTS AND SETBACKS. I'VE MET WITH THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS AND I HEAR YOUR CONCERNS CLEARLY. GOOD GOVERNANCE MEANS LISTENING TO THOSE VOICES, BUT IT ALSO MEANS WORKING TOWARD A FAIR COMPROMISE THAT SERVES THE GREATER GOOD. THROUGH COLLABORATION, WE HAVE ACHIEVED EXACTLY THAT. THE DEVELOPER HAS ALREADY MADE SIGNIFICANT CONCESSIONS TO PROTECT THE PRIVACY OF THE NEAREST RESIDENTS. DENSITY IS REDUCED. THE PROJECT WAS SCALED BACK BY NEARLY A THIRD FROM 60 UNITS DOWN TO 37. IT'S MORE THAN A THIRD HEIGHT PROTECTIONS. THE DEVELOPER AGREED TO A STRICT TWO STORY CAP ALONG THE NORTHERN AND WESTERN BOUNDARIES TO ENSURE IT TRANSITIONS SEAMLESSLY INTO EXISTING BACKYARDS. ENHANCED BUFFERS. THE PLAN FEATURES A 19 FOOT REAR YARD SETBACK MORE THAN TRIPLE THE SIX FOOT SETBACK THAT THE IMMEDIATE NEIGHBORS HAVE ON THEIR SIDE OF THE FENCE. IT ALSO INCLUDES MORE TREES THAN REQUIRED WITH ONE EVERY 25 FEET ALONG THE NORTHERN SHARED FENCE LINE. THE PLAN WE ARE VOTING ON TODAY IS THE 24TH VERSION. SINCE THIS PROJECT STARTED 24TH. THAT'S A LOT OF INPUT. THAT'S A LOT OF COFFEE . FURTHERMORE, THIS SITE IS UNIQUELY SUITED FOR THIS MINI MIX OF MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING. IT SITS IN A HEAVILY TRANSITIONAL POCKET, DIRECTLY ADJACENT TO A FIRE STATION, A LARGE CHURCH, A MAJOR FOUR LANE THOROUGHFARE, A PUMP STATION, AND A COMMERCIAL RETAIL CORNER. I HEARD THE REQUEST FOR ALL TWO STORY AND WORKED TO SEE IF WE COULD GET THERE. WE GOT CLOSE. WHAT WE HAVE TODAY IS STILL A SIGNIFICANT DECREASE IN OVERALL HOMES WITH FEWER THAN A THIRD AT THREE STORY. AND THEY ARE CONCENTRATED AWAY FROM EXISTING NEIGHBORS IN A CORNER BY THE FIRE STATION ALONG WALNUT HILL, WHICH SEES 22,000 CARS PER DAY. WHEN THE COUNCIL PASSED OUR CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE LAND USE PLAN FORWARD DALLAS, WE PLEDGED TO TACKLE OUR HOUSING SHORTAGE BY CREATING SMART INFILL OPTIONS RIGHT NEXT TO EXISTING TRANSIT AND RETAIL CORRIDORS. IN FACT, I'LL QUOTE MY COLLEAGUE CHAIR RIDLEY, WHO SPOKE OF THE PROTECTIONS FOR SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS BY PROVIDING SPECIFIC GUIDELINES FOR WHERE INCREASED DENSITY SHOULD BE PRIORITIZED ACROSS THE CITY, WHICH IS ALONG COMMERCIAL CORRIDORS. IF WE CAN'T BUILD MISSING MIDDLE HOUSING ON A VACANT LOT NEXT TO A COMMERCIAL STRIP CENTER AND A FIRE STATION, THEN FORWARD DALLAS IS JUST A PIECE OF PAPER. I APPRECIATE THAT THE WALNUT HILL HOMEOWNERS ASSOCIATION LETTER SENT THIS MORNING. ACKNOWLEDGING MULTIPLE MEETINGS, UM, WERE HELD AND THAT IMPROVEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE THROUGH THIS REVIEW PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR THAT. AND THAT THE PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT WOULD MAKE A POSITIVE IMPACT TO THE SURROUNDING AREA. MY RESPONSIBILITY AS YOUR COUNCIL MEMBER IS TO HEAR YOU AND ALSO TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE. I MUST BALANCE THE PREFERENCES OF A FEW ADJACENT HOUSEHOLDS WITH THE LONG-TERM ECONOMIC HEALTH, VITALITY AND HOUSING NEEDS OF NORTH DALLAS. TRUE LEADERSHIP MEANS LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS, BUT ULTIMATELY VOTING FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S FUTURE. I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT COLLEAGUES IN HELPING TO REBUILD THIS COMMUNITY. MS. MENDELSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THIS IS ITEM Z 11. THANK YOU. I MOVE TO AMEND THE MAIN MOTION TO MAKE THE FOLLOWING CHANGES FOR ALL STRUCTURES. UM, I BELIEVE IT'S ALREADY BEEN SAID AT MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30 FEET. MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES IS TWO, A MINIMUM OF 19 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR GUEST PARKING. AND AT LEAST 16.8% OF THE DISTRICT MUST BE OPEN SPACE. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. WE'RE NOW ON A MOTION, UM, TO AMEND THE ORIGINAL MOTION BY MS. MENDELSON. YOU COGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. I THINK, YOU KNOW, JUST TODAY YOU HAVE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN TWO STORIES, TWO STORIES, 30 FEET. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY EMAILS WE'VE GOTTEN. THERE'S A LOT OF TALK IN THE ENTIRE CITY THAT INCLUDES THIS CASE. THERE ARE NO THREE STORY HOMES IN THIS AREA. AND HERE WE PASS THE VERY CONTROVERSIAL, I THINK FORWARD [04:05:01] DALLAS. I'LL JUST SAY TO ANYBODY WHO'S GONNA VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE IN THE NEXT YEAR, YOU MIGHT WANNA ASK WHERE THEY STAND ON IT BECAUSE MAYBE THAT THING NEEDS TO BE REPEALED. I DIDN'T VOTE FOR IT. BUT FOR DALLAS, WHICH DID INCLUDE QUITE A BIT OF COMPROMISE, IS SUPPOSED TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION THE CHARACTER. WELL THE CHARACTER IS VERY LARGE LOT HOMES, EXCEPTIONALLY LARGE LOT HOMES. AND NOW YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT LOT HOMES THAT ARE LESS THAN A THOUSAND FEET, LIKE THE ENTIRE LOT THAT'S SMALLER THAN THE AVERAGE TWO BEDROOM APARTMENT IN MY DISTRICT. I BET MOST OF YOU LIVE IN A HOME THAT IS MORE THAN 2000, MORE THAN A THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. SO I I THINK THAT IS CRAZY. THE TERM MISSING MIDDLE WAS USED ABOUT HOUSING. AND I'M JUST GONNA TAKE EXCEPTION 'CAUSE I AM UNFAMILIAR WITH THE TERM MISSING MIDDLE TO INCLUDE 900,000 TO $1.2 MILLION HOMES. THAT IS NOT THE MIDDLE IN DALLAS. THAT IS FAR FROM THE MAP. GENTLE DENSITY. THE HOMES ARE GONNA BE FIVE FEET APART. YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE ABLE TO TOUCH EITHER SIDE, JUST STANDING THERE. COMPATIBILITY. THIS ISN'T GONNA LOOK ANYTHING, ANYTHING REMOTELY LIKE ANYTHING NEARBY BECAUSE OF SCALE. ANOTHER FEATURE OF FORMER DALLAS, IT IS OUT OF SCALE AND THEN YOU GET TO NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT, WHICH ACTUALLY COUNCILOR RIDLEY, THAT WAS YOU WHO GOT THAT PUT IN THERE, THAT PHRASE. WELL THE NEIGHBORHOOD INPUT HAS BEEN OVERWHELMINGLY NEGATIVE. SO IN THE CARDS THAT WERE RES THAT WERE RETURNED, FIVE PEOPLE WERE IN FAVOR OF, WHICH WE HEARD SOME ARE ALREADY OWNED BY THE DEVELOPER AND 42 WERE IN OPPOSITION. BUT THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE HOWEVER MANY HUNDRED EMAILS WE'VE GOTTEN ABOUT THIS. SO WHEN ARE WE GONNA ACTUALLY DO OUR JOB TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE OF OUR DISTRICTS AND OUR CITY INSTEAD OF TRYING TO IMPOSE OUR OWN IDEA OF WHAT WE THINK IS BEST. AND I'M JUST GONNA TELL YOU, I WAS ELECTED TO BE A REPRESENTATIVE BOTH OF MY DISTRICT AND OF THE CITY. AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN, WE TELL PEOPLE, COME BE INVOLVED. WE'RE GONNA HAVE COMMUNITY MEETINGS SO WE CAN LISTEN TO YOU. AND THEN WE ARE GONNA ACTUALLY IGNORE YOU. AND WHAT IS THE POINT OF COMING DOWN HERE AND ADVOCATING WHEN YOU ARE NOT LISTENED TO OVER AND OVER AND OVER AGAIN. AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT FIVE PEOPLE WHO WANNA DO A, B OR C. I'M TALKING ABOUT LEGITIMATE HOMEOWNERS. LIKE THESE ARE THEIR VERIFIED ADDRESSES. THIS IS THEIR ACTUAL NEIGHBORHOOD TELLING YOU NO. AND WE CAN SEE IT WITH OUR OWN EYES. IT DOES NOT FIT. SO THIS IS, THIS IS NOT SOME EMOTIONAL APPEAL BY PEOPLE. I HEARD THE WORD EMOTION. I'M SORRY, THAT'S NOT WHAT'S HAPPENING. THESE ARE REASONABLE, THOUGHTFUL PEOPLE WHO'VE ALREADY MADE COMPROMISE. I ACTUALLY SAW VERY LITTLE EMOTION. SO I THINK IT'S TIME FOR US TO LISTEN TO OUR PEOPLE. ARE WE GETTING THE MESSAGE? HOW MANY DIFFERENT ISSUES HAVE TO COME UP FOR US TO CONTINUE IGNORING WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE SAYING? SO THE MOTION I'M BRINGING FORWARD IS EXACTLY WHAT THE RESIDENTS HAVE ASKED FOR. I HAD HOPED THE COUNCILWOMAN WOULD DO IT HERSELF. I'M SORRY SHE DIDN'T, I HOPE SHE'LL SUPPORT THIS. IT'S NECESSARY. IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR YOU TO DO THIS. DON'T ADDRESS HER DIRECTLY, PLEASE. WELL, I'M, I'M DONE. THANK YOU JOAN STEWART, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR JOHNSON. I'M JUST GETTING MY ACT TOGETHER WITH THE TWO, UH, AMENDMENTS AND UM, I'M JUST GONNA GET BACK TO MY ORIGINAL COMMENTS. UM, LET ME EXPLAIN. UM, I REPRESENT DISTRICT 10 AND THAT'S LAKE HIGHLANDS. AND WE ARE RESIDENTIAL, A LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. WE'RE ALL ABOUT SCHOOLS, PARKS, TRAILS AND HOMES. YOU'RE YOU'RE NOT GONNA LIKE WHAT I'M GONNA SAY THOUGH. I'M GONNA PREPARE YOU FOR THAT. WE HAVE THIS TYPE OF PRODUCT IN LAKE HIGHLANDS AND IT HAS BEEN VERY SUCCESSFUL. SO LET ME READ THE STATEMENT AND THEN I WISH WE COULD HAVE DIALOGUE. 'CAUSE IT, IT REALLY HAS BEEN AN ASSET. UM, IT HAS BEEN AN ASSET. IT BACKS UP TO SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. SEVERAL OF THEM DO. AND IT HAS, IT HAS NOT [04:10:01] CREATED CONFLICT. THEY'RE VERY WELL CARED FOR. VERY WELL CARED FOR. THEY HAVE HOAS, YOU KNOW, THEY'RE LANDSCAPING, YOU KNOW, JUST, THEY'RE JUST IMMACULATE. SO LET ME, LET ME READ THIS. SO I DO SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. LAKE HIGHLANDS HAS SEVERAL SIMILAR HOUSING DEVELOPMENTS THAT HAVE PROVIDED INCREASED DENSITY WHILE FITTING IN WELL WITHIN THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY. MANY ARE LOCATED IN CLOSE PROXIMITY TO MORE TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY NEIGHBORHOODS AND HAVE PROVEN TO BE SUCCESSFUL ADDITIONS. THESE DEVELOPMENTS OFFER AN IMPORTANT HOUSING OPTION, ATTRACTING FIRST TIME HOME BUYERS AS WELL AS LONGTIME RESIDENTS LIKE ME WHO ARE READY TO DOWNSIZE, BUT WANT TO STAY IN THE COMMUNITY. I SEE THIS TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT AS AN ASSET IN LAKE HIGHLANDS. IT FILLS AN IMPORTANT HOUSING NEED WHILE PROVIDING MORE CHOICES FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO CALL LAKE HIGHLANDS HOME. SO AS I HAD MENTIONED, WE HAVE AT LEAST THREE OR FOUR OF THESE. THEY'RE MOSTLY DONE BY DAVID WEEKLY. UM, TWO OF THE DEVELOPMENTS DO BACK UP TO TRADITIONAL SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. ONE OF THE, UM, DEVELOPMENTS HAS 51 TOWN HOMES IN IT. UM, I CAN TELL YOU JUST SOME PERSONAL ANTIDOTES. I'M 68 YEARS OLD. A LOT OF MY FRIENDS ARE LOOKING TO DOWNSIZE. THEY'RE TIRED OF THE BIG YARD AND THE POOL. AND SO THEY HAVE MOVED INTO THIS HOUSING PRODUCT. IT'S BEEN VERY GOOD FOR THEM. AND THEY GET TO STAY IN LAKE HIGHLANDS 'CAUSE THAT'S, WE, WE WANT TO DO THAT. UM, I'VE ALSO, I MEAN, I CAN TELL YOU THE MINISTER AT MY CHURCH WANTED TO MOVE INTO LAKE HIGHLANDS AND SHE AND HER HUSBAND FOUND A HOME IN ONE OF THESE NEIGHBORHOODS. THEY'RE GREAT PEOPLE. THEY'RE, THEY'RE PEOPLE LIKE ME. I MEAN, THEY'RE, THEY'RE, THEY JUST WANNA LIVE IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THIS HAS BEEN A GOOD OPTION FOR THEM. SO I'M JUST SHARING THAT WITH YOU BECAUSE IT HAS WORKED OKAY. I MEAN, IT'S WORKED WELL. UM, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT BEEN, UM, ANYTHING DISRUPTIVE. I CAN SAY THAT IT HAS NOT BEEN DISRUPTIVE. SO, UH, MR. MAYOR, THAT'S, THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY AT THIS POINT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, EVERYONE ELSE WANNA POINT OUT THAT WE ARE ON AN AMENDMENT RIGHT NOW THAT, UH, CHANGES THE ORIGINAL MOTION. SO IF YOU COULD LIMIT YOUR DEBATE TO THE ADMIT THE CONTENTS OF THE AMENDMENT, YOU WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO DEBATE THE UNDERLYING MOTION LATER IF THAT'S WHAT YOU WANT. SO GO AHEAD, MAYOR. POINT OF INFORMATION. WHO IS, OH, IS THAT, WHO IS THAT? UM, MR. WEST. WEST. YES. YES SIR. UH, POINT OF INFORMATION. I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THE AMENDED MOTION. I KNOW COUNCILMAN MENISON ADDED PARKING AND, AND RESTRICTED HEIGHT. THERE WAS A THIRD THING. CAN WE GET THAT REPEATED? OKAY. SOMEONE'S GONNA GET IT TO YOU RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MS. CADENA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSSOHN. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I REPRESENT DISTRICT SIX AND THE MAJORITY OF THE HOMES IN MIDWAY HOLLOW ARE ONE TO TWO STORIES. THERE ARE MANY NEW BUILDS IN THE AREA AND THEY BLEND INTO THE EXISTING NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS PRO-DEVELOPMENT. HOWEVER, A HEIGHT HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT, UM, OTHER PARTS OF DISTRICT SIX HAVE ALSO HAD CONCERNS ABOUT. FOR INSTANCE, LA BAHAA, UM, THICK AT NORTH PARK. THAT'S BEEN THE NUMBER ONE CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE HAD, UM, IN FACING GENTRIFICATION. AND MIDWAY HOLLOW IS EXPERIENCES IT OWN GENTRIFICATION. UM, MANY RESIDENTS HAVE BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT COMPLIMENTS THEIR COMMUNITY, BUT I CAN UNDERSTAND WHY PEOPLE IN THIS AREA ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE IT WOULD BEGIN TO CHANGE. JUST YESTERDAY I RECEIVED AN EMAIL FROM A DEVELOPER THAT IS ACQUIRING PROPERTY, UM, ON THE DISTRICT SIX SIDES NOT FAR FROM THIS AREA AS WELL. UM, SO FOR THAT REASON, I'M INCLINED TO SUPPORT THE MOTION. THANK YOU. WAS THAT ALL? UH, MS. OKAY. MS. BLACKMAN, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. UM, THANK YOU. UM, SO THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 30 FEET ON THE AMENDED MOTION. WHAT IS THE HEIGHT IN THE SURROUNDING AREA? THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON SUN. I KNOW THERE'S A PD AND THERE'S SOME R OTHER R 16. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE SITE? WHAT, WHAT IS THE ROOF LINES? DOES ANYBODY HAVE THAT INFORMATION? THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IN THE REST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD? HEY MEGAN. HI MEGAN. WEER ASSISTANT DIRECTOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. YES, THE SURROUNDING RESIDENTIAL, UM, IS, UH, ALLOWS 30 FEET. UM, THE, THE PD THAT IT'S IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT IS 30 FEET. R 16 IS 30 FEET. I WILL MENTION THAT THERE'S, UM, THE, THE, THE CHURCH [04:15:01] WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO ANY HEIGHT LIMITATIONS IF IT WERE TO REDEVELOP. AND THE ADJACENT, UM, COMMUNITY RETAIL ALLOWS FOR 54 FEET IN HEIGHT. SO JUST TO KIND OF PROVIDE THE RANGE OF HEIGHT IN THE AREA. AND MOST, AND MOST OF THE HOMES ARE TWO STORY. UH, YES. OKAY. CORRECT. AND THEN, UM, WHAT IS USUALLY OUR MINIMUM, DO WE HAVE A FORMULA FOR OFF STREET PARKING FOR OR FOR GUEST PARKING IN, UM, DEVELOPMENTS LIKE THIS? SO I DON'T BELIEVE THAT THERE IS, THERE IS FOR MULTIFAMILY. UM, I'M LOOKING FOR HELP. UM, I, I KNOW THAT THE, THE APPLICANT PROPOSED ONE QUARTER SPACE PER UNIT, UM, WHICH IS, AND THE AMENDMENT GOES UP TO 19 AND I BELIEVE IT'S 10. SO, BUT IT'S 19. YES. I'M JUST WONDERING IS IT TOO MUCH, TOO LITTLE OR JUST RIGHT. 'CAUSE I LIVE IN A TOWN HOME AND IT'S, UM, THERE'S NEVER ENOUGH. I'M JUST GONNA BE HONEST. AND SO THAT'S MY QUESTION IS WHAT, AND IF THERE'S GONNA BE, WHAT'S STILL 37 UNITS, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S, I GUESS, HALF OF ONE PER UNIT AT THIS POINT. UM, IF YOU WANNA LIKE, DO THAT MAP, THAT SIMPLE MAP AND NOT REALLY. SO I, I THINK FOR THE GUEST PARKING THAT'S BEING PROPOSED BY THE APPLICANT, I THINK IT COMES UP TO ABOUT NINE SPACES. AND THEN COUNCIL MEMBER MENDEL CENTER. YEAH, THIS ONE'S 19, BUT SHE'S PROPOSING TEEN SPACES. YEAH. AND, AND I DON'T KNOW, THE APPLICANT, UM, MAY BE ABLE TO PROVIDE INFORMATION ON HOW THEY DID THE MATH AND HOW THEY CAME UP WITH THE REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PARTICULAR DEVELOPMENT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN THE OPEN SPACE LOOKED LIKE IT DIDN'T CHANGE OR DID IT CHANGE? 16.8. 16.8. UM, SO IN THE, IN THE CONDITIONS, UM, AND I'M SORRY I DON'T HAVE MY NOTEBOOK IN FRONT OF ME. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO GET INTO QUESTIONS. UM, THE, THE CONDITIONS REQUIRE AT LEAST 10%, I THINK IS WHAT IT ENDED UP WITH, WITH 20,000 SQUARE FEET OF CONTIGUOUS OPEN SPACE. SO I THINK THE OPEN SPACE ACTUALLY EXCEEDS 10%. UM, OH, HERE COMES YOUR NOTEBOOK. YEAH, THERE'S YOUR NOTE. OH, ARE YOU COMING? OKAY. THANK YOU. OH, THANK YOU SO MUCH. YES, YES, YES. UM, AND SO THERE'S A LARGE CONTIGUOUS OPEN SPACE AND THEN SOME SMALLER POCKETS ADJACENT TO BETTY JANE LANE. UM, BUT, UM, BUT I GUESS I'M, I'M ASKING IS 16.8 IS THAT WHAT IT IS NOW? BECAUSE I'M LOOKING AT THIS SHEET AND I I IT'S FUZZY AND IT SAYS 16.8 OPEN SPACE, BUT IT'S BEING, UM, PERCENT IS BE, BUT IT'S, I'M JUST WONDERING, IS THAT NEEDED IN THE AMENDMENT? THE AMENDMENT THAT COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN REQUESTED, IS MORE OPEN SPACE THAN IS PROVIDED FOR IN THE CONDITIONS. IF THAT ANSWERS THE QUESTIONS, I THINK THE CONDITION STILL REFERRED TO 10% BECAUSE IT SAYS RIGHT HERE, AT LEAST 16.8% OF THE DISTRICT MUST BE OPEN SPACE. AND THEN THIS, I'M GETTING A 16.8 IS OPEN SPACE. I'M WONDERING WHAT IT, I GUESS I CAN ASK THAT IF IT FAILS. YEAH. AND I'M SORRY, CAN YOU CLARIFY PLEASE, WHAT EXHIBIT YOU'RE, ARE YOU LOOKING AT THE CONDITIONS OR THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN? UM, OR IT WAS, I THINK THIS ONE THING THAT WAS IN THE PAPER. OH, OKAY. OR, OR SOMETHING. I GOT A MAP. I DON'T HAVE A COPY OF THAT IN FRONT OF ME. I'M LOOKING AT SOMETHING THE APPLICANT PROVIDED. UM, OPEN SPACE IS LABELED, BUT IT DOES NOT PROVIDE THE PERCENTAGE. SO I'M SURE THEY CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION BETTER THAN I CAN. UM, WHEN WE GET TO THAT POINT, DOES THE, DOES THE APPLICANT KNOW WHAT IS THE CURRENT, I GUESS I IT IS 16.8. OKAY. OKAY. SO IT'S 16.8. OKAY. WHAT, UH, CAN I GO AHEAD AND SHE CAN USE MY TIME. OKAY. MS. MENDELSON, IF YOU WANNA, BECAUSE IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S STILL, IT'S A SWAP. IT'S 16.8 16. SO THE FIRST THING YOU WERE ASKING ABOUT IS THE 19 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES. THAT'S THE, UM, SECOND, THE SECOND BULLET. THE REASON IT'S 19 IS 'CAUSE THAT'S THE IMAGE THE DEVELOPER HAS SHOWN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S GOT 19 SPACES IN IT. OKAY. THAT'S THE PHOTO, THAT'S THE DRAWING THEY'RE SHOWING THEM. OKAY. THAT'S WHY IT SAYS 19 NOW, IT'S NOT WHAT THEY ACTUALLY PUT IN THE DOCUMENT. OKAY. YOU'RE ON MY TIME, BUT IT'S WHAT THEY'RE SHOWING. YOU'RE ON MY TIME. THE SECOND PART IS THE, UM, OPEN SPACE AGAIN IS FROM THE DEVELOPER'S DOCUMENT. IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT ANYTHING I MADE UP. GOT IT. IT'S COD WHAT THEY'VE ALREADY SAID, BUT OF COURSE THEY CODIFIED SOMETHING DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THEIR DOCUMENT SAID. OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. UM, AND, BUT EVERYTHING ELSE, UM, STAYS THE SAME. I'LL, I'LL, WHEN WE GET TO UNDERLYING MOTION, I'VE GOT SOME, BUT I'LL JUST ASK QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. OKAY. MR. ACTUALLY WE'LL GO BACK TO, UM, UH, CHAIR WILLIS ON THE AMENDMENT, UH, FOR FIVE MINUTES. ALRIGHT, WELL, I THINK I'D LIKE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. CAN I DO THAT? I WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, [04:20:02] THE MINIMUM OF 19 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES REQUIRED FOR GUEST PARKING. AND THE 16.8% OF THE DISTRICT MUST BE OPEN SPACE ADDING THAT TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT THAT'S ALREADY BEING DONE IN THIS AMENDMENT. IS IT NOT? BUT I'M DROPPING SOMETHING OFF OF THIS. OKAY. YOU HAVE TO WROTE IT DOWN. I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU, OKAY. SO WHAT, WHAT DO, WHAT WOULD YOU DO IN THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WOULD BE DIFFERENT THAN THE AMENDMENT? WELL, THE POINT IS, IF WE WANT TO CODIFY THIS, BECAUSE THIS ALREADY, THIS ALREADY EXISTS IN THE PLAN. SO, YOU KNOW, I'M, I'M FINE WITH THAT BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT'S ALREADY PLANNED. UM, WHAT'S REQUIRED ON PARKING MS. BLACKMAN WAS THE 10 UNITS, IT'S AT 19 UNITS AND THEN 16.8% OPEN SPACE. THAT'S ALREADY PART OF THIS PLAN. IN FACT, THAT'S PART OF WHY THE TWO STORY DOESN'T WORK, IS BECAUSE IT WOULD GO, YOU WOULD GET RID OF GREEN SPACE AND I MEAN THAT'S, THAT WOULD NEVER GO BACK THROUGH PLAN COMMISSION. SO THAT'S WHY IT'S EASY TO SAY THIS, BUT YOU CAN'T DO IT. SO I'M JUST SAYING TWO ASPECTS OF THIS, UM, I'M FINE WITH, BUT THE 30 FEET WE HAVE TRIED, IT'S NOT GOING TO WORK. THIS IS GONNA BE SITTING VACANT FOR YEARS. OKAY. OKAY. SO HERE'S WHAT I'M SAYING THEN. I THANK YOU FOR THAT. SURE. UM, I THINK, UNLESS I'M INCORRECT, IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU'RE SAYING YOU WOULD LIKE TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT TO STRIKE THE FIRST BULLET POINT. THANK YOU. THAT'S MUCH MORE SIMPLE. MAYOR . THANK YOU. IS THERE A SECOND FOR THAT? OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE ON AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, WHICH JUST FOR, I CAN FOLLOW THIS. IT'S CHAIRWOMAN, UH, MS. MENDELSON'S AMENDMENT WITHOUT BULLET 0.1. IT'S JUST BULLET POINTS TWO AND THREE IF THAT WERE TO PREVAIL. SO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON YOUR AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. SO GOING BACK TO THIS, I MEAN, THERE HAVE BEEN SOME STATEMENTS MADE THAT ARE JUST NOT REALLY ACCURATE HERE. SO I HOPE YOU'LL LOOK AT THE PLAN THAT YOU'VE GOT. THESE ARE NOT ALL SMALL LOTS. ACTUALLY THE TWO STORY, UM, HOMES ARE IN MUCH LARGER LOTS. SO, UM, IT'S, IT'S JUST NOT ACCURATE TO SAY THESE ARE A THOUSAND FOOT SQUARE FOOT LOTS. THEY'RE, THEY'RE NOT THE SMALLEST WITH THE 12 STORY UNITS ARE ALMOST 2000 SQUARE FEET. I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE TEXAS LEGISLATURE'S GONNA HAND US WHEN WE COME BACK, UM, UH, AT THE END OF THIS YEAR. BUT THIS IS A MIX OF SIZES OF LOTS AND THEY HAVE BEEN INCREASED IN RESPONSE TO THE NEIGHBOR'S REQUESTS. UM, THE SECTION OF THESE HOMES, I REALIZE THEY'RE ACROSS A FOUR LANE STREET AND THAT PEOPLE ACROSS THE STREET MAY NOT NECESSARILY WANT THIS, BUT THE, THE THREE STORY UNITS ARE ACROSS MOSTLY FROM A PUMP STATION AND BY A FIRE STATION. SO THAT'S NOT REALLY SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE ARE LOOKING AT. UM, AND THIS IS ONE BUILDER. THERE ARE DESIGN GUIDELINES. SO I REALIZE WE MAY DRIVE THROUGH SOME NEIGHBORHOODS AND SEE A ONE OFF STRUCTURE AND IT LOOKS ODD. BUT THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, I MEAN, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD TO BE, AND SO I WANNA BE SURE THAT WE ARE TREATING IT THAT WAY. UM, YOU KNOW, AND ONE POINT MADE I THINK, UH, MS. STEWART, UH, I APPRECIATE YOU SHARING THAT BECAUSE I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH THERE, I'VE DRIVEN THROUGH MULTIPLE EXAMPLES AROUND THE CITY WHERE IT IS WORKING VERY WELL, KEPT LOVELY. UM, HERE'S A SUPPORTIVE MESSAGE FROM ONE NEIGHBOR OF THIS PROJECT WHO SAID, NOW THAT HE AND HIS WIFE ARE EMPTY NESTERS, WE ARE BEGINNING TO CONSIDER THE NEXT STAGE OF LIFE POTENTIALLY DOWNSIZING TO A NEWER, SMALLER HOME THAT REQUIRES LESS MAINTENANCE WHILE ALLOWING US TO REMAIN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WE VALUE. SO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT MISSING MIDDLE, IT'S NOT ABOUT THE COST OF THE HOME. IT'S SAYING THAT DALLAS, TEXAS HAS A WHOLE LOT OF SINGLE FAMILY. IN FACT, WE ARE MOSTLY SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND WE ALSO HAVE A LOT OF MULTIFAMILY. AND THAT'S WHERE A LOT OF OUR PRODUCTION IS. WHAT WE DON'T HAVE ARE EXAMPLES LIKE THIS THAT HAVE A LITTLE MORE DENSITY THAT MAY NOT HAVE THE YARD, THE MAINTENANCE THAT THIS, UM, THIS NEIGHBOR IS TALKING ABOUT, UM, AND THE DUPLEXES AND QUADPLEXES, THAT IS WHAT MISSING MIDDLE IS DEFINED AS. SO, UM, I, I WANNA BE SURE THAT IN LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS, IN MAKING THE DEVELOPMENT TWO THIRDS, TWO STORY IN RESPONSE TO WHAT THEY WANTED, TAKING THE LOT SIZE UP TO WHAT THEY WANTED, UM, THAT WE'RE ALSO RESPECTING OTHER NEIGHBORS WHO SAY, I DON'T WANT A YARD, I DON'T WANT, I WANT A DIFFERENT FORMAT. AND THESE CAN ALL WORK TOGETHER TO WHAT I'VE SEEN IN LAKE HIGHLANDS AND AREAS LIKE THAT, WHERE YOU CAN HAVE A NICE MIX OF THAT IN OUR GROWING CITY. THANK YOU. MR. WEST. DID, WERE YOU TRYING TO GET IN ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSSOHN OR YOU WANNA GET ON THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT? UH, ORIGINALLY MENDELSSOHN'S, BUT I'LL JUMP ON THIS ONE IF OKAY. I'LL RECOGNIZE YOU FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. [04:25:01] OKAY. AND, AND THE EFFECTIVENESS, THE EFFECTIVE RESULT OF THIS AMENDMENT, THE WAY IT WAS JUST EXPLAINED, UM, IF I CAN GET THE CITY ATTORNEY TO CLARIFY, IS THAT WE'RE BASICALLY BACK ON THE ORIGINAL MOTION BECAUSE THE SECOND TWO BULLETS ADDED BY COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSSOHN ARE ALREADY PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN. IS THAT RIGHT? OR MEGAN CAN ANSWER THAT. WE ARE ON THE AMENDMENT. WE ARE ON COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS'S AMENDMENT TO COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN'S AMENDMENT OF THE MAIN MOTION, THE STRIKING OF THE FIRST BULLET POINT REMOVES THE, UH, 30 FOOT HEIGHT REQUIREMENT AND THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES BEING TWO. IT IS APPARENTLY THE 16.8% OF DISTRICT OF THE OPEN SPACE AND THE 19 OFF STREET PARKING SPACES ARE PART OF THE ORIGINAL PLAN. HOWEVER, THAT WAS PART OF COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN'S MOTION. SO HER MOTION ON THOSE TWO POINTS WAS DUPLICATIVE OF WHAT WAS ALREADY IN THE PLAN, CORRECT. IT APPEARS SO. OKAY. THAT'S HELPFUL. UM, I ACTUALLY, WHEN THAT, WHEN WE WERE ON THAT, AND SINCE IT'S STILL PART OF THIS MOTION BECAUSE IT'S BEEN STRICKEN, I STARTED LOOKING THROUGH EMAILS FROM MR. SOMERVILLE, WIMBERLEY, MS. PITTMAN, THE WALNUT HILL, HOA NEIGHBORHOOD COALITION, AND NOBODY WAS ASKING FOR THAT. SO I WAS GONNA BRING UP WHY ARE WE ADDING THIS IN ON, ON A RANDOM AMENDMENT AND UM, GLAD THAT THAT'S BEEN CLARIFIED. SO I'M JUST GONNA FOCUS ON, UH, THE HEIGHT ISSUE 'CAUSE THAT SEEMS TO BE THE LAST ITEM THAT'S HERE. BUT I DO WANNA COMMEND MY COLLEAGUE, UH, CHAIR WILLIS FOR REALLY WORKING THROUGH THE TRAPS ON WHAT APPEARS TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT ZONING CASE. I'VE GOTTEN A LOT OF EMAILS FROM NEIGHBORS. I KNOW A COUPLE OF THEM PERSONALLY. AND SO I TOOK EXTRA TIME ON THIS CASE THAT I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TIME TO DO IN OTHER CASES. AND I JUST WANT TO SAY I HAVE BEEN THOUGHTFUL ABOUT IT. I'VE DRIVEN BY THE SITE, I'M FAMILIAR WITH IT. UM, I'M STILL LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES OF THIS, BUT I WILL TELL YOU THIS DEVELOPMENT REMINDS ME A LITTLE BIT OF WHAT WE HAVE IN NORTH OAK CLIFF, UM, IN FRONT OF A HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD, STEVENS PARK VILLAGE, UM, WHERE WE HAVE, IT'S AN ACTUAL TOWN HOME DEVELOPMENT THAT HAS A MIX OF TWO STORY AND THREE STORY STRUCTURES. AND IT SERVES AS A BUFFER ON FORT WORTH AVENUE. A VERY BUSY ROAD THAT HAS SOMETHING LIKE 22,000 CARS A DAY ON IT, ACTUALLY MAYBE MORE. AND IT SERVES AS A SOUND AND LIGHT BUFFER FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BY HAVING THAT, UM, THAT THREE STORY AND THEN TWO STORY BUFFER BETWEEN THE SINGLE FAMILY, MOSTLY ONE STORY NEIGHBORHOOD, UM, AND UH, AND THAT ROAD. SO I, I DON'T THINK THAT THE HEIGHT IS, I KNOW IT'S, IT'S A CHANGE. IT'S A LITTLE SCARY. THE FACTS, THE FACT THAT IT'S ALONG THAT BUSY ROAD, UM, GIVES ME A LITTLE BIT MORE COMFORT IN, IN, IN SUPPORTING IT. UM, AND SO I'M, I'M LEANING THAT WAY, BUT I'M, UH, I'M DEFINITELY STILL GONNA LISTEN TO THE ARGUMENTS HERE. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MS. MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT, THANK YOU. WONDERING IF PLANNING AND ZONING CAN COME BACK UP. SO BEFORE I MADE THE AMENDMENT, YOU WERE, UM, MENTIONING THAT THERE WAS 10% GREEN SPACE NECESSARY. YOU WERE MENTIONING LESS PARKING SPACES. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY? YES, I WILL, UM, MAKE CLARIFICATIONS. SO, UM, A, PURSUANT TO THE CURRENT CODE FOR SHARED ACCESS DEVELOPMENT, A QUARTER SPACE IS REQUIRED PER UNIT FOR GUEST PARKING. SO NINE THAT COMES BASED ON THE MATH, IT WOULD REQUIRE NINE GUEST PARKING SPACES REGARDING THE OPEN SPACE, THE CONDITIONS THAT I AM LOOKING AT THAT WERE PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT, UM, ROB HAS JUST TOLD ME THAT IT IS INCORRECT. UM, IT STILL REFERENCES 10% OPEN SPACE, BUT THE APPLICANT HAS SAID THAT THEY INTENDED FOR IT TO BE 15% OPEN SPACE. UM, SO THEY MAY WANNA MAKE THAT CLARIFICATION ON THE RECORD, BUT I WAS LOOKING AT WHAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. E OKAY, WELL THE ONLY THING THAT MATTERS IS ACTUALLY WHAT IS IN WRITING, RIGHT? NOT WHAT THEIR INTENT IS. AND EVEN IF THEY SAY IT VERBALLY HERE, WE KNOW THAT THEY ARE NOT HELD TO THAT STANDARD BECAUSE I HAVE BEEN THROUGH CASES LIKE THAT AND YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THOSE CASES. SO IF IT'S NOT IN WRITING, IT REALLY DOESN'T MATTER WHAT IS SAID. WE CAN'T JUST HAVE THESE PROMISES. THAT'S WHY IT'S [04:30:01] INCLUDED IN MY AMENDMENT. BOTH THOSE BULLETS THAT ARE NECESSARY. BUT THANK YOU THAT THOSE HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. UM, 12 PEOPLE SPOKE 12, ALL OF THEM ASKED FOR ONE THING AND IT WAS HEIGHT. THE VERY THING THAT IS NOT, THAT IS TRYING TO BE CIRCUMVENTED. THEY HAVE ALL SAID, WE MUST HAVE THE TWO STORY. THEY DIDN'T EVEN GO ABOUT THE OTHER ITEMS. THEY WANT 'EM, BUT THEY WEREN'T GONNA ASK 'CAUSE THEY HAVE TO PUT ALL THEIR CHIPS ON THE ONE THING THAT IS MOST IMPORTANT TO THEM. AND CONSISTENTLY, PERSON AFTER PERSON, NOT JUST TODAY, GO THROUGH ALL THE EMAILS, PLEASE STOP AT TWO STORIES. IF IT WORKS IN ANOTHER NEIGHBORHOOD, GREAT. IT'S NOT WORKING THERE. LISTEN TO THEM. THEY KNOW. AND PLEASE GET OFF THIS IDEA THAT MISSING MIDDLE INCLUDES $900,000 HOMES TO $1.2 MILLION HOMES. BECAUSE WE ALSO HEAR MISSING MIDDLE WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT LITECH. SO LIKE, COME UP WITH A DEFINITION. BUT THIS PULL ON THE HEARTSTRINGS MISSING MIDDLE, THIS OTHER IDEA OF DOWNSIZING AS SOMEBODY WHO'S NOW AN EMPTY NESTER, LIKE OFFICIALLY ALL THREE JOBS FOR ALL THREE KIDS OUTTA THE HOUSE OFF THE CAR INSURANCE. UM, I AM, AM AN EMPTY NESTER, BUT I GUARANTEE YOU PEOPLE ARE NOT LOOKING TO DOWNSIZE TO A THREE STORY, BUILD A THREE STORY HOME. WE, WE CAN'T HAVE THAT. SORRY GUYS. WE JUST DON'T DO THE OUTBURSTS AHEAD. THEY MIGHT DO A TWO STORY IF THE MAIN BEDROOM COULD BE DOWNSTAIRS , RIGHT? THROW THE KIDS UPSTAIRS AND THEY COME VISIT. UM, THIS, THIS IS NOT WHAT THE COMMUNITY WANTS. SO IF YOU KNOW BETTER THAN THE COMMUNITY, I GUESS YOU'RE GONNA VOTE FOR IT. AND YOU MUST HAVE BEEN IMPARTED WITH SOME SORT OF MIRACULOUS KNOWLEDGE THAT I DIDN'T GET WHEN I BECAME ON A COUNCIL MEMBER. I'VE LEARNED A LOT OF THINGS HERE, A LOT THAT I DIDN'T KNOW WHEN I STARTED, BUT I ALSO STUCK WITH, STUCK WITH THE IDEA THAT IT IS MY JOB TO LISTEN TO THE RESIDENTS AND THAT THEY MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING A LOT BETTER THAN I DO IN THIS CASE. YEAH, I'VE DRIVEN IT. I I KNOW THIS AREA AND I AGREE WITH THEM. IF I LIVED THERE, I WOULD NOT WANT A THREE STORY BUILDING, A THREE STORY HOUSE. NOW A THREE STORY CHURCH, I WILL SAY IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT BECAUSE SOMEBODY'S NOT LIVING IN THAT BEDROOM LOOKING DOWN INTO MY BACKYARD. AND WE HAVE THIS DISCUSSION WHEN WE TALK ABOUT ACCESSORY DWELLING UNITS. IT'S PRIVACY IS AN IMPORTANT ASPECT OF HOME OWNERSHIP. SO I AM, FOR THE MOTION I MADE, I AM NOT FOR REMOVING THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION, WHICH IS THE NUMBER ONE THING EVERY SINGLE PERSON HAS ASKED FOR. IF, IF YOU'RE GONNA IGNORE THE HEIGHT, HONESTLY, JUST TO PROVE THE MAIN MOTION AND TELL THE PEOPLE THE TRUTH THAT YOU DON'T CARE HOW MANY EMAILS YOU GET, HOW MANY COMMUNITY MEETINGS THERE ARE, HOW MANY TIMES THEY COME DOWN HERE, YOU DON'T ACTUALLY CARE WHAT THEY SAY. AND IN FACT, YOU'LL SAVE THEM A WHOLE BUNCH OF TIME AND WE WON'T HAVE SO MANY EMAILS. IT'D BE GREAT. SO, BUT I THINK OUR JOB ACTUALLY IS TO LISTEN TO THEM. THANK YOU MS. BLACKMAN. YOU RECKON THIS FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. UM, THANKS. OKAY, SO, OKAY, PERFECT. IF WE STRIKE THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30 FEET, BUT WE KEEP THE MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES AS TO HOW DOES THAT RECONCILE IN DEVELOPMENT EASE AND HOW, AND LIKE HOW, HOW DO YOU BUILD SOMETHING WITHOUT, BECAUSE THEN YOU CAN TECHNICALLY HAVE 2220 FOOT STORIES, OR DOES YOU SEE WHAT I'M SAYING? IT'S LIKE I I I SEE THEM GOING TOGETHER, BUT IF YOU STRIKE ONE THEN HOW DOES THAT AFFECT THE OTHER, I'M SORRY. HOW DID, HOW DOES THE HEIGHT, HOW DOES STRIKING THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30 FEET AFFECT A MAXIMUM NUMBER OF STORIES IS TWO. UM, I, I'LL SAY THAT. WELL, SO IF THE MAXIMUM NUMBER STORIES IS TWO AND THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS THREE, NO, THERE'S NO MAXIMUM HEIGHT. OH, THERE'S NO MAXIMUM HEIGHT. I'M, OH WAIT, IT'S GOING BACK TO THE ORIGINAL. IT'LL EVENTUALLY GO BACK. SO I GUESS IT GOES BACK TO TWO STORIES, TWO STORIES AT THREE SEVEN. BUT WE'RE NOT ON THAT MOTION. SO THAT'S WHAT IT, THANK YOU. I ANSWERED MY OWN QUESTION AND, AND IF I MAY ADD SOMETHING ELSE. SO CPC DID RECOMMEND 15% OPEN SPACE THAT WAS IN THOSE CONDITIONS. THE LATEST VERSION I RECEIVED DID [04:35:01] NOT SAY THAT, BUT THE INTENT ON THE RECORD AT CPC WAS 15%. SO THAT HELPS. OKAY. . MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. UH, THANK YOU. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I WANT TO COMPLIMENT MY COLLEAGUE FOR TRYING TO NAVIGATE THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE HOMEOWNERS AND WITH THE DEVELOPERS, UH, OVER THIS LONG PERIOD OF TIME. IT'S BEEN, THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF ITERATIONS ON THIS THING. SHE'S EXPRESSED IT THAT SHE'S GONE THROUGH 26 DIFFERENT, UH, NEGOTIATIONS ON THIS THING. UM, AND I COMMEND YOU FOR TRYING TO, TO GET THIS THING RESOLVED. UM, I'M GOING TO VOTE, UH, AND, AND EXPRESS MY OPINION AGAINST THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. I THINK THAT IT IS IMPORTANT THAT WE RETAIN THE HIGH LIMITATION AND THAT WE DO HAVE A MAXIMUM TWO STORIES HERE. THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS EXPRESSED, UH, TO US VERY, VERY CLEARLY THAT THIS IS THE, THE ISSUE. UM, THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY OPINION, UH, GETS THE, UH, THE BENEFIT OF, OF THE DOUBT WHEN THERE'S A CONTROVERSY. UH, I THINK THAT, UH, THERE'S BEEN SOME COMPROMISE. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF COMPROMISE BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD IT SOUNDS LIKE TO ME. UM, AND I, AND I THINK THAT, UH, IN THIS PARTICULAR SITUATION, THIS UH, AMENDMENT THAT'S BEEN PROPOSED BY COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MENDELSSOHN, UH, IN ITS ORIGINAL STATE, REALLY SOLVES THE PROBLEM, UH, FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ALLOWS THE DEVELOPMENT TO PROCEED. UH, AND, AND I THINK WOULD, WOULD BE A SATISFACTORY COMPROMISE FOR EVERYBODY INVOLVED. UH, WHEN, UH, I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST THAT, UH, THAT THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT BE, UH, REJECTED AND THAT THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT, UH, TO THE AMENDMENT BE, UH, BE PROMOTED. THANK YOU. UH, CHAIRMAN WEST, ARE YOU STILL TRYING TO GET BACK IN FOR ANOTHER ROUND OR NO? YES, MAYOR. OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. I HAVE. THANK YOU. UH, I, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR, I THINK THE ATTORNEYS, UH, IT WAS BROUGHT UP IN A RESPONSE TO A QUESTION, I BELIEVE, UH, AND MAYBE THIS IS FOR MEGAN. UM, THE, THAT IF THE CHURCH, LIKE, I GUESS IF THIS DEVELOPMENT GOES AWAY, IT'S DENIED WHATEVER, UM, THE CHURCH COMES BACK IN, THEN THEY'RE ALLOWED TO BUILD, UM, WHAT ARE THEY ALLOWED TO DO BY RIGHT, UM, UP TO 56 OR 65 FEET? CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT? UM, YEAH, I'M NOT, I'M SORRY. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE 55 OR 65 FEET, I DUNNO IF THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WAS THROWN AROUND. BUT MY POINT WAS THAT INSTITUTIONAL USES AND CHURCH, INCLUDING CHURCHES DO NOT, OR NOT SUBJECT TO HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS. SO THEY CAN PRETTY MUCH BE ANY LEGAL HEIGHT. IS THERE A YES, WOULD THEY BE ABLE TO BUILD, UM, LIKE IS IS STATE LAW NOW ALLOW RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS TO BUILD HOUSING ON IT? UM, IS THAT NOT A THING YET? SI KNOW IT'S BEEN DISCUSSED. YEAH, SB 40 DOESN'T ADDRESS THAT, BUT I, I SORRY, I DID HAVE THE THOUGHT ABOUT THE CR BEING ABLE TO DEVELOP MULTIFAMILY BY RIGHT. UM, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? SORRY. YEAH, THE ADJACENCY, UM, NOW WOULD ALLOW MULTIFAMILY BY, RIGHT. NOT THAT THAT'S NECESSARILY RELEVANT TO YOUR QUESTION, BUT, UM, STATE LAW IS APPLICABLE THERE. SO IF WE'RE CONCERNED ABOUT DENSER HOUSING, THAT COULD ALREADY HAPPEN BY RIGHT ON THE ADJACENT PROPERTY. UM, WE'VE BEEN TALK, I MEAN, I THINK IT IS RELEVANT TO MY QUESTION BECAUSE, UM, WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SETTING UP PRECEDENT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO WHAT'S THE PARCEL THAT'S ADJACENT AND WHAT'S THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT THAT'S ALLOWED THERE? AND, AND THERE'S, AND YOU'RE SAYING THERE'S NO HEIGHT MAXIMUM FOR THE CHURCH? COULD BE, COULD BE AS TALL AS IT WANTS TO BE, IT NOT THAT IT BE, YEAH, IT, IT COULD BE. AND UM, SINCE IT IS ALSO ZONED R 16, IT WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO RPS. SO RESIDENTIAL TO RESIDENTIAL DOESN'T ORIGINATE RPS. SO YOU COULD GET HEIGHT THERE. AND I BELIEVE THE, UM, FIRE STATION, WHICH IS ADJACENT ON THE OTHER SIDE IS 40 FEET AND HEIGHT. SO AGAIN, JUST TO GIVE, GIVE SOME CONTEXT ON EXISTING AND, UM, ALLOWABLE HEIGHT ON ADJACENT PROPERTIES. OKAY. OKAY. UM, THAT'S HELPFUL. THAT'S, THAT WAS, THAT'S IT. THANKS [04:40:02] CHAIRMAN. WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. AND THANK YOU FOR SHARING THAT REGARDING HEIGHT, BECAUSE THERE IS A LOT MORE THAT COULD BE COMING THAT WOULD BE FAR GREATER THAN 36 FEET. BUT WHAT I WANTED TO ASK IS, IT'S EASY FOR US TO PUT NUMBERS ON PAPER AND JUST COME UP WITH A MOTION I WANNA ASK THE APPLICANT. WOULD IT COME ON DOWN? I MEAN, IS WE TRIED THIS AND, YOU KNOW, IF IT'S NOT DOABLE AND WE SIT WITH VACANT LAND, UM, AND NO HOUSES ON IT, I'M NOT SURE HOW THAT HELPS US, UH, MEET OUR GOALS. SO CAN YOU HELP ME WITH WHETHER THIS WORKS? BECAUSE WE TRIED, THIS IS WHAT I TRIED LAST TIME. HERE IS THE PROBLEM FOR YOU, UH, UH, FOR ALL OF YOU MAYOR. UM, THE, THE FINAL VERSION OF THE CONDITIONS DIDN'T MAKE YOUR PACKET. SO THE ABSOLUTE COMMITMENT WE'RE MAKING IS THAT WHAT WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD IS THE LAYOUT YOU'VE SEEN AS 24 THAT INCLUDES 16.8% OPEN SPACE, 19 GUEST SPACES PROVIDED. UM, AND ANY, UM, ANY FORM I BELIEVE THAT THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT THAT WHAT IS ON THE FLOOR AT THIS MOMENT DOES THAT, IT, IT, IT CONFORMS THE ULTIMATE ORDINANCE TO THE DESIGN. BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 30 FEET ASPECT OF THIS. WE TRIED, WE TRIED THE TWO STORY TO MAKE 30, 30 FEET IS NOT A MARKETABLE PRODUCT AT THE, AT THE FOOTPRINT SIZE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU'VE SEEN ALL OVER TOWN. THAT THREE STORY IS THE STANDARD FOR TOWNHOUSE. UM, THERE ARE SOME EXAMPLES OF TWO STORY TOWNHOUSES. THEY TEND TO BE LARGER FOOTPRINT. AND SO WHAT YOU'RE ACTUALLY DISGUISING IN A MOTION TO LIMIT TO 30 FEET IS ACTUALLY A MOTION TO LIMIT THE NUMBER OF UNITS ON THE, ON THE ACREAGE. AND WE ARE AT 9.9 UNITS PER ACRE FOR CONTEXT. UH, R 75, WHICH IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE SINGLE FAMILY IN DALLAS, IS ALMOST SIX PER ACRE. SO THIS IS AN INCREDIBLY SMALL DENSITY BUMP OVER REGULAR R 75 SINGLE FAMILY. WELL, YEAH, I JUST WANT TO, HELLO, I'M LEO. I'M THE APPLICANT WITH PHIL KINGSTON HERE, BUT WE'VE TRIED TO ACTUALLY DECREASE THESE, UM, TWO, TWO STORIES, BUT IT DOES NOT WORK ON THE FOOTPRINT. NOW I JUST WANT, YOU KNOW, TAKE IN MIND THAT LOTS ONE THROUGH 11 ARE 3,900 SQUARE FEET LOTS. 33 THROUGH 37 ARE 3,500 SQUARE FEET AVERAGE LOTS 24 THROUGH 32 ARE ABOUT 3,600 SQUARE FEET AVERAGE. SO IT'S NOT TRUE THAT THESE ARE 800 SQUARE FEET. THEY'RE NOT, UM, THE AVERAGE FOR LOTS 12 THROUGH 23, WHICH WOULD BE THE ONLY 12 HOMES THAT ARE THREE STORIES ARE AN AVERAGE OF 1919 84 SQUARE FEET. SO IF WE DECREASE THOSE TWO, TWO STORIES, WE'RE GONNA BE HAVING A 1200 SQUARE FOOT PRODUCT, WHICH IS A CRACKER JACK BOX AND NO ONE WILL EVER BUY IT FROM ME OR FROM, YOU KNOW, FROM ANYONE. 'CAUSE NOBODY CAN LIVE IN SOMETHING SO SMALL. SO THAT'S THE REASON THAT WE ARE REQUESTING THE 36 FEET AND THE THREE STORY ONLY ON THOSE 12 LOTS, NOT THE REST. THE REST IS ALL TWO STORY, WHICH IS A HUGE COMPROMISE OF THE 63 STORY HOMES THAT WE HAD PROPOSED. NOW ACROSS THE STREET ACTUALLY ON MARSH LANE, I'M ACTUALLY BUILDING 36 FOOT TOWN HOMES THAT THEY GET TO SEE EVEN CLOSER THAN WHAT THEY WOULD SEE ON THIS PROPERTY. SO WE ARE ALREADY DOING 36, 36 STORY, SORRY, 36 FOOT, UH, PRODUCT ON WHERE THE OLD CITY OF DALLAS, UH, BUILDING WAS AT. SO WE ALREADY HAVE THAT, RIGHT? SO THE HEIGHT, I KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT FORMAT, IT'S TOWN, IT'S HOW HOME OR, OR THIS SINGLE FAMILY DETACHED. BUT UM, YEAH, THE HEIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT IS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE NORTHWAY CHURCH THAT WAS ALSO HIT BY THE TORNADO HAS BUILT JUST A TWO BLOCKS DOWN, OR MAYBE EVEN LESS THAN THAT. THAT'S AT THREE STORIES. AND SO IT EXISTS. THIS IS SOMETHING WE PURSUED. I MEAN, I DID, I DROVE YOU CRAZY AND YOU KNOW, I MEAN, I WASN'T HAPPY TO GET THAT ANSWER BACK, BUT ON THE OTHER HAND, I MEAN WE, THESE NEIGHBORS, THIS IS A NEIGHBORHOOD, THEY DESERVE TO HAVE SOME GREEN SPACE. I DON'T THINK A PLAN COMMISSION WOULD PUT THIS THROUGH WITH THE TOTAL ABSENCE OF THAT. NO. IS THAT WHO WE WANNA BE AS A CITY? SO, UM, I DON'T WANNA SEE THIS SIT VACANT. I DON'T WANNA SEE US FORCED THROUGH SOMETHING THAT NO ONE'S GONNA BE ABLE TO BUILD A MARKETABLE PRODUCT ON THAT WILL SIT VACANT AND NOT HELP US AND NOT REALLY HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD. UH, 'CAUSE THERE'S SOME OTHER IDEAS OUT THERE THAT I REALLY DON'T WANT, I WOULDN'T WANT TO COME ABOUT. AND SO, UM, THAT'S WHY I THINK A QUALITY PRODUCT IN A NEIGHBORHOOD, IN A FORMAT THAT'S MIXED KIND OF LIKE WE'VE HEARD OTHER COLLEAGUES TALK ABOUT IS, IS SOMETHING THAT'S DOABLE AND THAT'S THE, THE PUSH THAT YES. AND THIS IS ALSO A VERY, HOLD ON, HOLD ON. DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THEM OR NO? NO, I THINK, I THINK BECAUSE WE, WE DON'T NEED TO EXTEND THIS TIME WITH MORE TALK, I APPRECIATE NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT I, AND I'M NOT SURE WHO THAT GENTLEMAN IS IN THE, IN THE AISLE WITH, BUT YOU CAN SIT DOWN. THAT'D BE GREAT. LET'S GET SOME ORDER GOING IN HERE, . THANK YOU, MAYOR. [04:45:01] SO I MEAN, THE POINT I WANTED TO MAKE TO COLLEAGUES IS JUST THAT, YOU KNOW, IT'S ONE THING TO JUST START MOVING NUMBERS AROUND, BUT IF YOU DON'T PUT THE APPLI, IF YOU DON'T INVOLVE THE APPLICANT AND, AND YOU FIND THAT IT JUST CAN'T WORK, AND THAT, THAT IS WHAT I'VE BEEN PUSHING FOR SINCE THE, SINCE WE CEASED THE LAST MEETING, THAT IT MAY NOT HAPPEN. AND HOW DOES THAT, HOW DOES THAT BENEFIT THE CITY? SO PLEASE ASK YOURSELF THAT QUESTION. AND I'M, I'M FINE WITH CODIFYING THESE THINGS. I MEAN, IT SOUNDS LIKE A DOCUMENT DIDN'T MAKE IT INTO THE PACKET, BUT, UM, I JUST, I THINK FORCING THAT 30 FEET ONTO THIS OTHER PARCEL IS NOT GOING TO HELP WHEN SO MANY CONCESSIONS HAVE BEEN MADE ON THE REST OF THE LOT. THANK YOU, MR. BASIL DUA, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I'D LIKE TO ASK THE APPLICANT, UH, UM, A QUESTION AS WELL. SO STAY CLOSE FELLAS, BUT , JUST DON'T STAY AT THE MIC, BUT STAY CLOSE. SO ON THE 36 UH, FEET, UM, I'M TRYING TO FIND IT ON THE PLAN AND I, I'M, I'M STRUGGLING ON THE, THE FINDING THE LOTS. SO I'M LOOKING AT THE CPCS RECOMMENDED CONCEPTUAL PLAN. UM, WHAT, WHICH LOTS ARE THE ONES, WHICH LOT NUMBERS ARE THE ONES THAT, UH, ARE APPLYING FOR THE 36 WITH AS AS THE MOTION? THEY'RE THE ONES IN THE SOUTHEAST QUADRANT AND THEY'RE NUMBERED 12 THROUGH 21, 12 THROUGH 21, 12 THROUGH 23. I'M SORRY. OH, THROUGH 23 RATHER OTHER. OKAY, I SEE. OKAY. UM, AND THEN CAN YOU HELP ME ORIENT MYSELF TO Y'ALL'S SITE MAP ON WHERE THE, UM, FIRE STATION IS THAT YOU HAVE, HAVE BROUGHT UP? IT'S DIRECTLY TO THE EAST AT THE CORN ON, ON WALNUT HILL DIRECTLY TO THE EAST OF OUR LOT AND IS, SO ARE THESE PROPOSED TO HAVE A HIGHER HEIGHT ADJACENT TO THAT STRUCTURE? UM, THE THESE 12 ARE, ARE TALLER THAN THE OTHER STRUCTURES PROPOSED ON THE LOT. I I GET THAT, BUT ARE THEY THE CLOSEST, LOTS ORIENTED TO THE 40 FOOT, UH, FIRE STATION BUILDING? ABSOLUTELY. UH, OKAY, I I, I'D LIKE TO ASK STAFF WHAT PROCESS, UM, IF YOU COULD EXPLAIN, I UNDERSTAND, UH, PROXIMITY SLOPE AND, AND, AND DIFFERENCE IN RESIDENTIAL, ET CETERA, BUT WHAT, UH, WHY IS THIS, WHY WAS THIS FIRE STATION, UM, HAVE A HIGHER HEIGHT THAN WHAT IS DESIRED IN, IN THE SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOOD? UM, WE WILL, WE ARE LOOKING INTO THAT RIGHT NOW. MY, I SUSPECT IT'S BECAUSE IT'S AN INSTITUTIONAL USE. NO, IT'S A UTILITY. WE'LL GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT QUESTION. W WAS, UM, AND, AND WHEN WAS THIS FIRE STATION, UH, CONSTRUCTED? YES, WE WILL, WE WILL HAVE THAT ANSWER MOMENTARILY. I APOLOGIZE. I DON'T KNOW OFF THE TOP OF OF MY HEAD. MAYOR CAN WE'LL HOLD YOUR TIME AT 3 26 AND WE CAN COME BACK TO YOU. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT? THANK YOU. OKAY. YES, SIR. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO, UH, I'M GOING TO GO TO, UH, JEREMY WEST FOR ONE MINUTE. JEREMY WEST, DID YOU, YOU HAVE YOUR LITTLE HAND DEAL THERE? DO YOU WANT TO GET IT BACK? I FORGOT TO TAKE IT DOWN. I'M, NO, I DON'T HAVE A QUESTION. OKAY. ALL ALRIGHT. RIGHT THEN WE'LL STAND AT EASE FOR A MINUTE OR TWO UNTIL WE GET A RESPONSE. WE'LL, UH, MR. BASEL DO HIS TIME AT 3 26. [04:50:21] OKAY, WE'RE BACK. UM, GO AHEAD PLEASE. THANK YOU. YES, SO WE DID VERIFY THAT THE, UM, QUICK VERIFICATION THAT THE FIRE STATION IS ALSO ZONED R 16, UM, IT HAS AN SEP, WHICH DOESN'T MODIFY HEIGHT. AND SO LOOKING AT IT, IT APPEARS TO BE, IF WE HAD TO EYEBALL IT PROBABLY 25 FEET, IT'S LIKE A STORY AND A HALF. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE 40 FEET FEET CAME FROM THAT THE APPLICANT REFERENCED. UM, I I, MAYBE THEY HAVE, THERE'S, THERE ARE CHURCHES THAT EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF 30 FEET, BUT THAT, THAT INFORMATION BASED ON WHAT WE'RE SEEING IS MAYBE NOT ACCURATE. OKAY. I I JUST, SO I GUESS THE CHURCH, UH, UH, AS WELL WAS CONSTRUCTED, UM, WHEN I'LL, I'LL I'LL GO THERE THEN. RIGHT? UH, HEIGHT ON THE CHURCH. UM, THAT WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO THE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. UH, WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT, BUT IT'S EXEMPT. THAT'S NOT WHAT I'M ASKING. OH, I'M SORRY. WHAT WERE YOU ASKING? COUNCIL MEMBER? I JUST WANT, I, I JUST WANNA KNOW WHEN IT WAS CONSTRUCTED AND WHAT THE HEIGHT IS OF IT. I I I UNDERSTAND THAT THESE, UH, EXAMPLES MAY HAVE NOT BEEN, UM, UH, BOUND TO HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS, BUT I AM CURIOUS AS TO WHEN THEY CAME UP AND WHAT, UH, RECORD HAS BEEN CREATED OF, UM, NUISANCE OR, UM, UH, I GUESS PROBLEMS, UH, PROBLEMATIC, LIKE COMPLAINTS. UM, I, I, I'M, I'M TRYING TO WRAP MY HEAD AROUND. I, I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS THOUGHT PUT INTO THIS, I BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCESSIONS. I, I STILL WOULD SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, I, I UNDERSTAND FROM THE APPLICANT. UM, YOU KNOW, ONE THING I ABSOLUTELY HATE IS WHEN AN APPLICANT THREATENS THAT THE, THE, THE LOT'S GONNA STAY VACANT. UM, I THINK THAT THAT'S BS QUITE FRANKLY. WE KNOW THAT YOU'RE GONNA AMEND IT AND, AND MAKE WHAT YOU CAN IN THAT PARCEL. SO THAT, UM, REASONING TO ME DOESN'T SIT REALLY WELL, UH, BECAUSE YOU'RE HERE ASKING US FOR ZONING AND, AND, AND YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY TO DO THIS. AND, UH, I I DON'T BELIEVE THAT IT'S GONNA BE AN ALL OR NOTHING. UH, BUT I AM TRYING TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT THE TRUE CONCERN IS. IF IT LOOKS AS IF ON THIS SITE PLAN ANY OF THE, UH, ADDED HEIGHT IS ALONG OR, UH, ADJACENT TO THE MAIN CORRIDOR, AND IT'S ALSO SURROUNDING TWO STRUCTURES THAT BOTH, UH, FROM, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL, UM, TOWER OVER THE TWO STORY HOMES OR ONE STORY HOMES ANYWAY. AND SO I GUESS I, I GUESS IF YOU COULD GIVE A MORE HONEST ANSWER, THE APPLICANT, IF YOU CHOOSE TO, UM, ON WHAT THE TRUE IMPLICATIONS WOULD BE ON MOVING THIS SIX FEET FROM 36 TO 30, UM, WOULD THAT CHANGE THE ABILITY TO HAVE THE, THE FULL 12 IN THESE, UH, PARCELS? WOULD YOU HAVE TO REPL IN ORDER TO GET LESS? LIKE WHAT, WHAT WOULD BE THE OUTCOME? WELL, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL, DO WE NEVER THREATENED TO LEAVE THE PROPERTY VACANT? THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE NEIGHBORS HAVE CONTINUALLY BROUGHT UP. UM, THAT, THAT'S NOT OUR ARGUMENT. UM, UH, I THOUGHT THAT, I HEARD, I HEARD YOUR CLIENT SAY THAT, SO I APOLOGIZE, BUT I I, I THOUGHT THAT THAT'S SOMETHING HE SAID ON THE PODIUM JUST A SECOND AGO. THE PRACTICAL RESULT OF REDUCTION IN HEIGHT WILL BE A REDUCTION IN THE NUMBER OF UNITS BECAUSE AT THE FOOTPRINT THOSE HOUSES ARE DESIGNED FOR TWO STORIES IS NOT A MARKETABLE PRODUCT. UM, UH, I GUESS I, I'M IN, IN NO WAY WANTING TO BE ARGUMENTATIVE, BUT EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THERE ARE TWO STORY DWELLINGS WITHIN YOUR DEVELOPMENT PLAN AND HOW THEY ARE ANY MORE MARKETABLE THAN WHAT TWO STORIES WOULD BE IN THESE PARTICULAR PARCELS. THEY'RE ON LOTS THAT ARE GREATER THAN 50% LARGER AND HAVE GREATER THAN 50% FOOTPRINT INCREASE. SO IT'S, IT'S BE IT'S IT'S THE END RESULT ON BEING ABLE TO GET THE, UH, LIVING SPACE SQUARE FEET. UH, UH, YES, EXACTLY. AND IT'S ALSO, UH, IT, IT'S A, IT'S A TRICKY MATH QUESTION. IT, IT, IT'S, WHAT CAN YOU SELL WHAT BELONGS HERE? 37 UNITS IS [04:55:01] ENOUGH TO MAKE THIS A PROJECT WORTH DOING, AND YET NOT ENOUGH TO TURN THIS INTO SOMETHING THAT IS BEYOND WHAT WAS CONTEMPLATED IN FOR DALLAS. OKAY. UM, WELL, I I I WILL JUST SAY I, UH, WILL SUPPORT, UM, THE COUNCIL MEMBER WITH THIS, UH, AMENDMENT. I DO APPLAUD, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSSOHN FOR, FOR BRINGING, UH, FORWARD WHAT SHE BELIEVED TO BE. RIGHT. I, I JUST, I, I'M NOT, THE HEIGHT IS SOMETHING THAT REALLY ALWAYS STICKS WITH ME WHEN IT COMES TO THESE CASES. UM, I, I SEE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BRING DEVELOPMENT TO AN AREA. I THINK, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I SIT, UM, RIGHT NEXT TO TWO BRAND NEW SUBDIVISIONS, BOTH THAT HAVE, UH, THREE STORY DWELLINGS THAT, UH, DON'T EXIST ANYWHERE ELSE IN OUR NEIGHBORHOODS. SEEMS TO WORK PRETTY WELL HERE, UH, QUITE FRANKLY. UM, SO I, I APPRECIATE THE EXAMPLES YOUR TIME, SIR. SORRY, I KNOW YOU CAN'T SEE IT, BUT THAT WAS YOUR TIME. IT'S OKAY. I'M GONNA RAISE MY HAND AGAIN THOUGH. OKAY. I'M PROBABLY GONNA COME RIGHT BACK TO YOU IN JUST A MINUTE. UM, MS. MILLEY RIGHT US FOR THREE MINUTES ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. WAIT, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR YOU. CAN YOU TELL ME A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT KIND OF PRECEDENT IT SETS TO ALLOW A THREE STORY BUILDING IN THIS AREA? I WOULD SAY THAT IT DOES NOT THAT EACH ZONING CASE IS CONSIDERED ON ITS OWN MERITS. UM, WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE CONTEXT AND FORWARD DALLAS AND THE OTHER FACTORS WE CONSIDER, AND WE WOULD LOOK AT IT INDIVIDUALLY SITE BY SITE. BUT YOU ALREADY THINK THAT THIS DEVELOPMENT, UM, FITS THE FOUR OF DALLAS PLAN, CORRECT? WE DO, YES. SO I WOULD COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. OKAY. UM, AND I'LL ALSO DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE PRECEDENT BECAUSE EXACTLY WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS WE'LL HAVE A NEW SET OF PEOPLE THAT WILL COME AND EMAIL US AND SIT IN MEETINGS MEETING AFTER MEETING, GO TO COMMUNITY MEETINGS, AND THEY WILL TRY TO FIGHT THE THREE STORY ISSUE. AND THEY'LL SAY, BUT LOOK, YOU DID IT HERE, THEREFORE IT MUST BE OKAY. THE WORLD DIDN'T END. SEE, AND THE WORLD WON'T END, BUT IT WILL BE DIFFERENT. AND IT'S NOT THE KIND OF DIFFERENT THAT THEY EVER SIGNED UP FOR. IT'S NOT WHAT WAS PASSED IN FORWARD DALLAS. IT'S NOT WHAT WAS, UH, ENVISIONED FOR THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD WHEN IT WAS BUILT. SO I THINK THERE'S A BIG PRECEDENT SETTING SUDDENLY WHEN THEY'RE DOING COMPS ON THEIR HOME, WHICH THEY HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THE IMPACT ON THEIR HOME VALUES. THESE ARE GONNA BE VERY EXPENSIVE HOMES, BUT THOSE HOMES WILL BE PART OF THAT COMP IN THAT AREA AND IT'S A VERY, VERY DIFFERENT PRODUCT. UM, I AGREE. I DON'T, I DIDN'T HEAR THE APPLICANT THREATEN TO NOT BUILD ANYTHING. I DID HEAR THAT MAYBE IT WOULD BE MULTIFAMILY FAMILY. SO THAT'S ALWAYS SORT OF A REFLEX. COUNCIL MEMBER. BAO WAS ASKING A GOOD QUESTION. I'M NOT SURE HE ACTUALLY GOT THE ANSWER FROM THE APPLICANT. AND THE QUESTION, I BELIEVE WAS WHAT'S THE CONSEQUENCE OF GOING TO THE TWO STORIES FOR THOSE 12 HOMES? SO IF MR. KINGSTON'S AVAILABLE, I MEAN, IS IT CORRECT TO SAY THAT, WELL, IF IT WAS LIMITED TO THE 30 FEET AND SO YOU HAD TO BUILD THEM AT TWO STORIES AND YOU'VE GOT THOSE 12 UNITS THAT YOU'VE, UM, CONSIDERED SO FAR, WOULDN'T YOU JUST MAKE A BIGGER FOOTPRINT AND MAYBE INSTEAD OF 12, YOU WOULD THEN FILL IN, FILL IN THE NUMBER. HOW MANY UNITS WOULD THAT BE? WOULD THAT THEN BE EIGHT? WOULD THAT BE SIX? I MEAN, LIKE, WHAT WOULD YOU HAVE TO DO TO FILL THAT SPACE? UH, NOT HAVING LAID IT OUT, I DON'T KNOW THE EXACT NUMBER, BUT IT WOULD BE SUBSTANTIALLY FEWER UNITS TOTAL. SO INSTEAD OF 12, WOULD IT BE EIGHT? THAT'S THE PART, I DON'T KNOW THE, THE EXACT ANSWER TO IT WOULDN'T BE, IT WOULDN'T BE, UH, 11. IT WOULDN'T BE 10, IT WOULD BE SOMEWHAT LESS THAN THAT. SO IT WOULDN'T BE 10. WOULD IT BE NINE ? I MEAN, LIKE, ARE WE GONNA DO THAT? UH, YEAH, THAT'S AN UNFAIR QUESTION IS OKAY, WELL THEN I'M GONNA ASSUME IT'S GONNA BE NINE BECAUSE YOU'RE, YOU'RE A SMART GUY AND YOU'RE NOT WILLING TO SAY NINE, BUT YOU ARE WILLING TO SAY IT WOULDN'T BE 10. SO TO, UM, GIVE UP THREE UNITS FOR THEM TO HAVE THE, THE TWO STORIES THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAS ASKED FOR, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. AND, UH, AGAIN, THREE UNITS NOW WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THANK YOU. ALRIGHT, MR. BEDO, I THINK YOU'RE BACK UP FOR THREE MINUTES. UM, THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, SO I, I GUESS WHERE, WHERE I STRUGGLE IS THAT WE ARE DEBATING OVER SIX FEET. UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S DESIRE, UH, UH, OF THE [05:00:01] COMMUNITY TO NOT, UM, SEE AN AN OVER OVERLY DENSE, UM, DEVELOPMENT. AND, AND I THINK THAT A LOT OF THOSE ISSUES HAVE BEEN ADDRESSED HERE. UM, I, I DO UNDERSTAND THE COMMENTS THAT HAVE BEEN MADE ABOUT LISTENING TO THE COMMUNITY AND, AND, AND HEARING, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, WE, WE CAN'T IGNORE THE FACT THAT WE HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS ARGUMENT AS WELL. AND SO WHENEVER IT'S PRESENTED AS, YOU KNOW, WE, WE, SURE THERE'S BEEN A MAJORITY, BUT, BUT I'M NOT, I DON'T THINK THAT IT'S EVER IN IT'S EVER, UH, BENEFICIAL TO US TO MINIMIZE THE VOICES THAT WE HAVE HEARD THAT ARE IN, IN, IN SUPPORT. I HAVE HEARD FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE IN SUPPORT. UM, IT IT, IT MAY HAVE BEEN MORE ORGANIZED ON THE OPPOSITION SIDE, BUT WITH THAT SAID, UM, IS SIX FEET REALLY THE MAKE OR BREAK? I DON'T UNDERSTAND. I, I, I, I'M JUST, I'M, I'M REALLY NOT UNDERSTANDING THE EXAMPLES THAT HAVE BEEN GIVEN ABOUT IT. TOWERING OVER THE SITE PLAN DOESN'T GET, SHOW ME THAT THERE WOULD BE THE, THAT OPPORTUNITY WHERE THESE LOTS ARE SITTING FOR THEM TO BE TOWERING OVER ANY ONE'S SINGLE FAMILY HOME. UM, AND, AND THIS IS THE NEW PRODUCT THAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, IN, IN NEW SUBDIVISION DEVELOPMENTS, WE'RE GOING TO SEE LOT SIZES BE MAXED OUT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. AND A LOT OF THE BUILDING IS GONNA BE GOING UP. UM, I KNOW THAT WE JUST, UM, INCREASED OUR, UH, AREA PLAN AND ALL OF SOUTH DALLAS FROM WHAT IS, UH, WHAT WAS A 36 FOOT, UH, HEIGHT LIMITATION, UM, TO BEING MUCH MORE, UH, THOUGHTFUL AND GRANULAR, SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO ALONG THE MAIN CORRIDOR. SO EVEN IN THE PHIL PHILOSOPHY THAT WE HAVE USED IN MY DISTRICT AND WITH ZONING CHANGES AND AREA PLANS, THIS SEEMS TO STILL FIT THAT THE SITE AFFORDS ITSELF TO ONE SIDE THAT'S ALONG A MAJOR THOROUGHFARE AND THE OTHER PORTIONS THAT ARE MORE INTO THE RESIDENTIAL. AND BECAUSE OF THOSE CONCESSIONS, AND BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS TO BE THOUGHTFUL AND IT'S ONLY A PORTION OF THAT, I, I I THINK THAT THIS IS, UH, UM, UH, OVERALL WIN. UM, I, I UNDERSTAND THAT THERE'S GONNA BE UPSET NEIGHBORS. I AM ALSO ONE THAT BELIEVES THAT A ZONING CHANGE, UH, SUCCESSFUL ZONING CHANGE IS ALMOST GONNA HAVE PEOPLE UPSET ON BOTH SIDES. UH, IF WE HAVE SUCCESSFULLY FOUND SOMETHING IN THE MIDDLE, IT CAN'T BE A ZERO SUM OF WHAT WE HEAR THE ADVOCATES OF A NEIGHBORHOOD SAYING THAT IT HAS TO BE. AND WE CAN'T GIVE THE, THE DEVELOPERS EVERYTHING THAT THEY WANT IN THE KITCHEN SINK. UM, SO I AM, UH, RIGHT NOW TRYING TO, UH, REALLY UNDERSTAND THE OPPOSITION AND I'M HAVING TROUBLE WITH IT. THANK YOU. YOUR TIME. ALRIGHT, MS. MENDELSON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR ONE MINUTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. UM, SO I'M GONNA GO BACK TO HOW MUCH COMMUNITY INPUT WE HAVE HEARD. UM, OF THE REQUIRED CARDS, 89% OF THEM ARE OPPOSED. THAT'S NOT JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A MAJORITY. THAT'S A BIG NUMBER OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE JUST WRITTEN INTO US. IT'S HIGHER THAN THAT. SO WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHERE IN THE MIDDLE. AND SO I CAN, I CAN BOTH SIDES IT. THERE'S A VERY DISTINCT MESSAGE AND THE THING THAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IS WE ARE RADICALIZING OUR OWN RESIDENTS AGAINST US. DO YOU NOT REALIZE HOW FRUSTRATED PEOPLE ARE ABOUT BEING IGNORED, THAT THEY'RE NOT SITTING THERE SAYING, YOU KNOW WHAT, I HAVE TO BE INVOLVED IN THE POLITICS OF THIS CITY WAY BEYOND MY DISTRICT BECAUSE I CAN'T GET ANYTHING. I CAN'T EVEN BE HEARD. THAT'S ALL I'M GONNA SAY. THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT BY CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS? SAY, NONE ALL. MR. MAYOR, JUST FOR CLAR A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. YES. UH, COULD WE RESTATE WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON WITH ALL THIS DISCUSSION? I'LL TELL YOU VERY QUICKLY, I'LL MAKE IT SUPER FAST FOR YOU. SO WHAT, WHAT YOU HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU THAT SAYS MOTION FOR THE HONOR, UH, FOR COUNCILWOMAN MENDELSON KAREN MENDELSON, THAT MOTION HAS THREE BULLET POINTS. IT'S JUST THIS AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT WOULD JUST LEAVE YOU WITH THE LAST TWO. THE LAST TWO WOULD BE THE ONLY THING THAT WERE WOULD BE REMAINING. SHE WAS, SHE'S STRIKING THE FIRST BULLET POINT AND THE TWO SUB BULLET POINTS UNDERNEATH IT. OKAY. ALRIGHT. SO PARLIAMENTARY ANGRY. SO A VOTE YES REMOVES THE HEIGHT RESTRICTION. AYE, A VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS WOULD LEAVE ONLY THE LAST TWO AND STRIKE EVERYTHING THAT'S UNDER THAT FIRST BULLET POINT THAT SAYS, FOR ALL STRUCTURES, MAXIMUM HEIGHT, 30 FEET MAXIMUM STORIES, RECORD VOTES BEEN REQUESTED. MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE [05:05:01] STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ENA? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DOA? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROSS? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO. SMALL LIKELY I. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO. TIM JOHNSON. THANK YOUR BACK. YES. MAYOR PRO. TIM RESENDEZ? YES. MAYOR JOHNSON? YES. WITH 10 VOTING IN FAVOR? FIVE. OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON AS IT'S BEEN AMENDED. WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON? MS. BLACKMAN, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. OKAY. AND JUST FOR BELTS AND SUSPENDERS, THESE NUMBERS THAT'S IN THIS WILL TAKE THE PLACE THAT'S IN THE ORDINANCE. OKAY. JUST TO CLARIFY, BECAUSE I THINK IT'S AT, IT SAYS 0.35 ON THE PARKING, IS THAT NOW JUST GONNA BE A STATEMENT THAT SAYS IT'S A MINIMUM OF 19 OR IS IT GONNA BE A MINIMUM OF 19 PLUS THE THREE POINT OR 3.5 WHICHEVER'S GREATER? WE WILL PROBABLY, IT WILL PROBABLY NEED TO REFLECT WHAT THE NUMBER THEY'RE, SAY THEY'RE COMMITTING TO IS. SO IF IT WAS 19, THE ORDINANCE WILL SAY 19 SPACES MUST BE PROVIDED. WELL, THAT'S WHAT THIS IS GONNA SAY, BUT IT SAYS IN THIS ORDINANCE ON 13, IT SAYS A MINIMUM OF 0.35. I'M JUST MAKING SURE THAT THEY WILL GET THE, THE, THE, UM, MAXIMUM NUMBERS, THE, THE MAXIMUM WILL REPLACE THAT. OKAY. YES. AND THEN THE 16.8 ON PAGE 14 WILL REPLACE THE 15%, CORRECT? YES. OKAY. JUST MAKING SURE. YES, YOU GOT IT. THANK YOU FOR GETTING THAT ON THE RECORD. MR. ROTH RECOGNIZED FOUR, FIVE MINUTES AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON. UH, THE AMENDED MOTION DOES NOT INCLUDE THE, UH, 30 FEET AND THE MAXIMUM TWO STORIES. AND I THINK THAT'S A HUGE, HUGE MISTAKE TO, TO ELIMINATE THOSE TWO THINGS. AND I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST, UH, THAT AMENDMENT WITH, IF IT DOES NOT INCLUDE THE 30 FEET AND THE TWO STORY LIMITATION. THIS IS, THIS IS ABSOLUTELY SURPRISING TO ME THAT WE ARE NOT LISTENING TO THE NEIGHBORS. THE NEIGHBORS HAVE PRIORITY. WHEN SOMEBODY COMES AND ASKS FOR A FAVOR, IT IT, AND THE PARTIES HAVE BEEN NEGOTIATING, TALKING, COMMUNICATING PROPERLY. THE, THE PRIORITY LIES WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD. AND, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T GET OVER THIS. THE DEVELOPER, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT, THEY'RE, THEY'RE ENTITLED TO MAKE MONEY. THEY'RE ENTITLED TO HAVE A SUCCESSFUL DEVELOPMENT, BUT THEY HAVE GOT TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAKE THAT PROPERTY WORK, UH, WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD IN MIND. AND, AND TO ME, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S, IT'S NOT, IT, IT, I DON'T UNDERSTAND HOW, UH, A SMART, THOUGHTFUL DEVELOPMENT CAN'T ACCOMMODATE THIS KIND OF A REQUEST. UH, AND, AND, UH, IF IT, IF THE DEAL DOESN'T WORK, THEN SOME OTHER DEAL WILL WORK THERE. AND I THINK THAT THAT, UH, THE COMPROMISE THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS MADE, THE DISCUSSIONS THAT HAVE BEEN GOING ON FOR, I THINK THIS HAS BEEN ALMOST A YEAR SINCE WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS, AND IT'S BEEN, AND WE, IT STARTED OUT AS A HUGE NUMBER OF PROPER OF, OF, UH, HOUSE OF, OF, UH, BUILDINGS. NOW WE'RE DOWN TO THIS. THERE'S BEEN, TO ME, THERE'S SOMETHING MISSING HERE IN THAT THE DISCREPANCY BETWEEN THE BEGINNING AND THE END DOESN'T SHOW TO ME THAT THERE'S BEEN THOUGHTFUL ECONOMIC EVALUATION OF THIS SITUATION. AND, AND IF, IF YOU CAN'T DO A TWO STORY BUILDING BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT A GARAGE DOWNSTAIRS, OR YOU'VE GOT TWO LITTLE LOTS, YOU GOTTA FIGURE IT OUT AND YOU GOTTA MAKE IT WORK. AND IT'S TO YOUR BENEFIT, IT'S TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD'S BENEFIT. IT'S TO THE CITY'S BENEFIT. HELP US GET THIS THING OVER THE, OVER THE GOAL LINE. THIS IS IN YOUR, IT'S IN YOUR, YOUR PURVIEW. YOU CAN DO IT. YOU NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT. PLEASE HELP THE NEIGHBORHOOD MAKE IT HAPPEN. UM, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT WE VOTE AGAINST THIS, THIS MOTION, AND I'M GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THE OTHER MOTION. [05:10:01] UH, IF IT, IF IT'S WHEN IT COMES UP IF WE DO NOT HAVE A MAXIMUM HEIGHT ON THIS SITUATION. THANK YOU, MS. MIDDLETON. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WONDERING IF THE APPLICANT CAN ANSWER THIS QUESTION. UM, GIVEN HOW CLOSE THE HOUSES ARE AND THE DRIVEWAYS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT HOW MANY CURB SPOTS ARE AVAILABLE BEYOND THIS GUEST PARKING? I SUSPECT NO ONE WILL WANT TO PARK ON THE CURB IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD. THAT THERE, IT'S GONNA BE TWO. I DON'T, I THINK IT COULD BE BLOCKING SOMEBODY'S DRIVEWAY. OKAY. SO IT'S NOT POSSIBLE TO PARK ON THE CURB, WHICH IS WHY THERE'S SO MANY, WHY, WHY THIS GUEST PARKING IS SO ESSENTIAL. WOULD YOU AGREE? I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT, YES. OKAY. SEE, WE AGREE ON SOMETHING. UM, SO I, I WOULD ENCOURAGE COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH, I'M GONNA VOTE FOR THIS AMENDMENT BECAUSE AT LEAST IT IS GIVING THEM THAT PARKING. AND THEN I WILL VOTE NO ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION. BUT GIVEN THAT THERE WERE 10 PEOPLE THAT VOTED TO TAKE AWAY THAT, UM, MAXIMUM HEIGHT OF 30 FEET, IT'S POSSIBLE THIS WHOLE THING PASSES. AND AT LEAST THIS WILL IMPROVE THE SITUATION. SO IN AN EFFORT NOT TO CUT OFF MY NOSE, SPITE MY FACE, I'M GONNA VOTE YES FOR THIS AMENDMENT. SO AT LEAST THEY HAVE SOME GUEST PARKING THAT'LL IMPROVE IT FOR NOT THESE FOLKS, BUT FOR THE PEOPLE WHO WILL ACTUALLY LIVE THERE. THE, THE, THE OPEN SPACE I THINK IS RELATIVELY UNCHANGED BY, I GUESS 1%. IT'S A DIFFERENCE. BUT, UM, THE UNDERLYING MOTION I WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE SUPPORTING BECAUSE WE HAVE IGNORED THE NUMBER ONE REQUEST OF EXISTING RESIDENTS, WHICH IS THE TWO STORY, THREE STORY QUESTION. SO THANK YOU. JUST WANNA MAKE SURE THERE'S NO ONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE AMENDMENT BY MS. MENDELSON BEFORE WE HAVE A RECORD VOTE. SEEING NONE, MADAM SECRETARY, GO AHEAD AND CALL THE ROLE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KADENA? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DOA. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. OKAY. YES. KS COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM JOHNSON. MINOR. THANK. YES. MAYOR PRO. TIMM RESENDEZ? YES. MAYOR JOHNSON? YES. WITH 14. VOTING IN FAVOR? ONE. OPPOSED? THE MOTION PASSES. MR. MAYOR. OKAY, WE'RE NOW IN THE ORIGINAL MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN WILLS AS AMENDED BY MS. MENDELSON. EVERYONE WANNA SPEAK? I SEE MR. BASIL DO A YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME, UH, UNDERSTANDING ON THE, A COUPLE OF THE BULLET POINTS. UH, UM, IF, IF MS. WILLIS IS WILLING TO ANSWER, MAY I ADDRESS HER MAYOR? ABSOLUTELY. UM, THE FIRST BULLET POINT SAYS ANIMAL PRODUCTION, COMMERCIAL, STABLE AND PRIVATE STABLE MAIN USES ARE PERMITTED BY, PERMITTED BY WRIGHT. WHAT, WHAT IS THE INTENT HERE? THAT IS A LEGAL REQUIREMENT. AND I'M GONNA LET, UM, UH, AN ATTORNEY EXPLAIN THAT. SAID THE ATTORNEY, MR. MAYOR, UH, THAT REQUIREMENT COMES FROM, I BELIEVE IT'S HB 1750. IT'S FROM THE AGRICULTURAL CODE. WE CANNOT, AGRICULTURE CANNOT PREVENT THAT. AND YOU'LL SEE IT LATER TODAY TOO. IT, UM, AND SO THIS IS JUST SHORING UP THE NEW LEGISLATION TO MAKE SURE IT'S, IT'S IN COMPLIANCE WITH THAT? THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY. UM, AND THEN IT, IT ALSO TO MS. WILLIS ON THE SIDEWALKS NOT REQUIRED ON, UH, BETTY JANE LANE. AND CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT TO ME? I THINK IT'S TWO LANES. YES. THAT ACTUALLY HAS TO DO WITH THE BAR DITCHES, BUT, UH, GO AHEAD AND EXPLAIN THAT FURTHER. UH, YEAH, THAT, THAT'S CORRECT. YES, THERE ARE BAR DITCHES EXISTING THERE AND, UM, WITH CONVERSATIONS WITH TRANSPORTATION AND PUBLIC WORKS, IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT, UM, TO INSTALL SIDEWALKS, UM, IN THAT LOCATION BASED ON EX THE CONDITIONS AS THEY EXIST TODAY. OKAY. UM, WELL, I DON'T, I DON'T LOVE THAT PART. I WILL TELL YOU THAT'S [05:15:01] THE ONE THING THAT STICKS OUT TO ME. UM, IT'S NOT ENOUGH FOR ME TO, TO, TO NOT SUPPORT THIS. UM, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE US, UH, LEVERAGE OUR, UH, PRIVATE SECTOR AND DEVELOPERS AS MUCH AS WE CAN TO IMPROVE OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. AND, UH, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE DITCHES THERE, THERE COULD BE A GOOD DRAINAGE SYSTEM THAT'S BUILT IN, UM, UH, UNDERNEATH A, A SIDEWALK, UM, CONSTRUCTION THAT WE KNOW THE CITY CAN'T AFFORD AND IS NOT GONNA BE PUTTING THERE. SO I JUST WANTED TO GET CLARITY ON THAT. I I DO WISH THAT WE WOULD, UH, BE MORE INTENTIONAL OF LEVERAGING THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HELP WITH OUR INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS. UH, AND I, I KNOW THIS AREA ALREADY, UH, LACKS SIDEWALKS, SO, UM, THAT'S NOT ENOUGH, UH, UH, FOR ME TO, TO GO AGAINST THIS. BUT I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD START, YOU KNOW, UH, ENCOURAGING SIDEWALK INFRASTRUCTURE IN ALL PARTS OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU MADAM SECRETARY. I SEE, UH, I DON'T THINK MS. MENDELSON'S SPOKEN ON THE UNDERLYING MOTION. SO YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. MS. MENDELSON, THANK YOU. I'M GONNA BE VOTING NO, AND JUST TO BE VERY CLEAR, A NO VOTE IS TO STAY WITH THE NEIGHBORS AND SAY THREE STORIES IS INAPPROPRIATE IN THIS AREA. AND SO THAT IS WHY I'LL BE VOTING. NO, I THINK I'VE GONE THROUGH, UM, MY REASONS IN TALKING AND, AND ACTUALLY MAYOR, I THINK I'M PROBABLY THREE MINUTES 'CAUSE I THINK I DID GO THROUGH THE FOUR DALLAS ITEMS ON HOW IT DIDN'T FIT. UM, PERHAPS THAT WAS WITH MY OWN AMENDMENT . HE'S CONFIRMING IT WAS, UM, I'M NOT GONNA REPEAT IT AGAIN. I THINK I'VE TALKED ABOUT IT WITH SEVERAL OF THESE AMENDMENTS, BUT I HOPE THAT ALL THE COUNCIL MEMBERS WILL PAUSE FOR A MOMENT AND QUESTION WHETHER THEY JUST FOLLOW THE LEAD OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHOSE DISTRICT IT IS OR DO THEY ACTUALLY LISTEN TO WHAT THE RESIDENTS ARE TELLING YOU? I WILL SAY FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO SAY, I'M GONNA TAKE THE LEAD OF THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO'S THERE, YOU DON'T DO THAT UNIFORMLY. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN. RIDLEY, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES QUESTION FOR STAFF. SO WHAT LOTS IN THE DEVELOPMENT ARE REFERENCED AT THE THIRD BULLET? SUB TWO REFERENCING MAXIMUM HEIGHT IS 30 FEET FOR LOTS ADJACENT TO LOT THREE. AND CITY BLOCK C OVER 6 2, 2 4. SO THE, THE LIMITATION MOTION IS INTENDED TO, UM, APPLY TO ALL THE LOTS EXCEPT THE ONES IN THE CORNER, WHICH WOULD BE LIMITED TO 36 FEET. SO, OR WOULD BE ALLOWED 36 FEET. OKAY. SO THE MOTION I DON'T HAVE IN FRONT OF ME, BUT IT'S INTENDED TO REFERENCE THE LOTS ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING SINGLE FAMILY. SO WHERE IS LOT THREE IN THE CITY? BLOCK REFERENCED? LOT THREE. THAT IS ON THE NORTHERN, THAT'S THE CHURCH. YEAH. HI, GOOD AFTERNOON. MARTIN BATES, SENIOR PROJECT COORDINATOR PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT. UH, THE LOT THREE BLOCK C THAT WAS OVER THERE. UH, THAT WAS SOMETHING THAT WE PULLED OUT THROUGH DA, THE DCA RECORDS FOR THE CHURCH LOT TO THE WEST. SO THIS PART OF THE CONCEPTUAL PLAN, THAT'S WHAT DC AD HAS DESIGNATED AS, UH, BASED ON WHAT THE APPLICANT HAD PROPOSED IN ORDER TO LIMIT THE HEIGHT ON THOSE PROPERTIES TO THE WEST. UH, THEY HAD ORIGINALLY USED THE LANGUAGE WESTERN PROPERTY LINE, HOWEVER, JUST GIVEN THE CONFIGURATION OF THE LOT. OKAY. SO IT APPLIES TO ALL OF THE PROPOSED, UM, DEVELOPED SITES EXCEPT THOSE IN THE SOUTHEAST CORNER? YES, SIR. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. ROTH. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? UH, THANK YOU. UM, AGAIN, UH, I WANNA COMPLIMENT, UH, MY COLLEAGUE COUNCILMAN WILLIS FOR ALL OF HER EFFORTS IN TRYING TO GET, UH, THESE FOLKS TOGETHER. UM, I AM GOING TO VOTE AGAINST THIS, UH, MOTION. I THINK THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD NEEDS TO BE, UH, UH, LISTENED TO. I THINK THEY NEED TO BE, UH, ACCOMMODATED AND I THINK THAT THEIR CONCERNS ARE NOT UNREASONABLE. I WOULD, I WOULD STRONGLY ASK THAT THE, THAT THE DEVELOPER TRY TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THIS, UH, PROPERTY WORK, UH, WITHOUT, UH, WITHOUT FORCING THE ISSUE ON THE HIGHER LIMIT. UH, AND, UH, IF, UH, IF THIS, UH, MOTION IS, UH, DENIED THAT THEY TRY TO COME BACK WITH A, WITH A PROPOSAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD OR THAT WOULD ALLOW TO ACCOM THE ACCOMMODATION TO WHAT [05:20:01] THEY'RE REQUESTING. UH, AND UH, AGAIN, THIS IS, UH, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I THINK THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS IMPOSING UNREASONABLY. I DON'T THINK IT'S UNFAIR. I DON'T THINK, I THINK IT'S BEEN A SENSITIVE, SERIOUS MESSAGE AND NEED. THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT LIVE NEXT DOOR TO THIS THING. THIS, THESE ARE THE FOLKS THAT HAVE, HAVE GOT STABLE, UH, NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, THAT, THAT THEY THINK REQUIRES THE HARMONY, UH, AND UNIFORMITY OF, OF THE DEVELOPMENTS AROUND THEM. AND I RESPECT THAT, AND I THINK THAT THAT'S REAL IMPORTANT. AND I THINK A STRONG NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD, UH, PROMOTE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. I THINK STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS MAKE A STRONG CITY, AND I THINK IF WE DENY THAT THE NEIGHBORHOODS THAT RESPECT AND THAT ACCOMMODATION, THAT WE'RE DOING A DISSERVICE TO OUR CITY GENERALLY. UH, I CERTAINLY RESPECT THE DEVELOPERS' ATTEMPTS TO TRY TO, TO HELP OUT HERE AND TO DO IT, BUT, UM, I THINK THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE, THE NEIGHBORHOOD SHOULD GIVE PREFERENCE. THANK YOU, CHAIRMAN GRACIE, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES, THANK YOU. AND I, I WANT TO THANK MY COLLEAGUES AND, AND, UM, AND THE RESIDENTS FOR BEING HERE AND, AND APPRECIATING THE CIVIC ENGAGEMENT. AND I SINCERELY HOPE THAT YOU ALL DO NOT FEEL THAT YOU WEREN'T HER HEARD IN THIS. AND I THINK I'VE HEARD, UH, SOME OF YOU MENTION THE FACT THAT, UH, COUNCILWOMAN HAS, HAS BEEN HAVING MEETINGS AND LISTENING TO YOU ALL. WE ARE LISTENING, ASKING QUESTIONS, AND TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE CAN UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT OF THIS TOO. SO I JUST WANT TO JUST GO ON RECORD JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU ALL UNDERSTAND OUR SUPPORT ONE WAY OR ANOTHER HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NOT LISTENING TO YOU ALL. WE, YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD, UH, IN THIS, I SEE YOUR FACE, , YOU HAVE BEEN HEARD. UH, BUT SOMETIMES WE ALSO HAVE AN, AN, AN, UH, THE, THE ABILITY TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ADDRESSING OUR HOUSING NEEDS. WE JUST SPENT, UH, YOU KNOW, TIME AND HOUSING, UH, COMMITTEE, AND THIS IS BRINGING HOUSING TO THE COMMUNITY. UH, AND IT MAY NOT ALWAYS FIT, BUT I THINK THROUGH, I THINK THEY SAID THIS IS THE 26TH. SO THIS IS THE 26TH RENDERING PLUS SOME AMENDMENTS TO TRY TO GET US TO WHAT, UH, COULD WORK HERE. SO I, I WANT YOU ALL NOT TO WALK AWAY FEELING LIKE THIS WAS A LOSS, BUT THIS WAS GOVERNMENT IN, YOU KNOW, IN, IN ACTION TRYING TO HEAR AND COMPROMISE AND GET TO A SOLUTION THAT COULD WORK, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD. AND IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE DEVELOPER COMING IN AND SAYING, HEY, WE WANT TO PUT THIS HERE. IT'S HOW DOES THIS FIT INTO THE COMMUNITY? AND WHAT ARE YOU BRINGING TO MAKE SURE IT RESPECTS AND REFLECTS THE CHARACTER OF THAT COMMUNITY? SO AGAIN, I JUST GOT HAVE TO GO ON RECORD. I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, UH, BECAUSE THERE'S BEEN A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF EFFORT, UH, ON ALL PARTS TO, TO FIND A, A RESOLUTION HERE. SO AGAIN, JUST THANK YOU FOR THAT. UH, AND THANK YOU FOR, UH, GETTING US TO THIS POINT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST A RECORD VOTE, PLEASE. DULY NOTED. MR. BASIL DULEY, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. UM, I WOULD JUST WANT TO ECHO THAT, THAT SENTIMENT AND, AND JUST CLARIFY. UH, THERE WAS A COMMENT THAT WAS MADE THAT, THAT, THAT, THAT WE ARE BLINDLY OR, OR THAT SOME OF US ARE BLINDLY, UM, SUPPORTING THE COUNCIL MEMBER. IT'S NOT THE CASE FOR ME. I, THESE ARE, THESE ARE CASES THAT ARE, UH, VERY, UH, INTRICATE AND WE HAVE TO DIG INTO THEM, AND WE HAVE TO HAVE OUR OWN, UH, VOICE. WE HAVE TO USE REFERENCE TO CASES IN OUR OWN DISTRICTS. UM, I HAVE, I HAVE HEARD FROM THE, UH, THE RESIDENTS AS WELL. I'VE HEARD RESIDENTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE AS I'VE MENTIONED. UM, I ALSO KNOW THAT THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE ITERATIONS. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE PLANNING COMMISSIONERS, UM, UH, ABOUT CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE. WE'VE MET WITH THE GROUP. UM, DUE DILIGENCE IS DONE. UH, AND, AND I BELIEVE REAL DUE DILIGENCE IN THE WORK THAT WE DO HAS TO GO BEYOND JUST TRYING TO LISTEN TO THE LOUDEST VOICES IN THE ROOM. AND THAT'S THE, THE REALITY. UH, WE ARE, WE CONTINUE TO, UH, MAKE REFERENCE, UH, ON, ON THIS HORSESHOE TO COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE. AND WE, AND WE ARE ATTRIBUTING IT TO AN, AN A, A COMMUNITY AT LARGE. AND I THINK THAT THAT'S UNFAIR. I THINK IT'S VERY, UH, DISINGENUOUS MR. MAYOR TO HAVE, UH, UH, THIS CHARACTERIZED AS IF, UM, IT'S A CLEAR CONSENSUS AND THAT IT'S UNANIMOUS. IF IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS, YOU CANNOT, UH, BLANKET THAT THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT IT. IF I HAVE IN MY INBOX EMAILS FROM NEIGHBORS OF YOURS THAT WE'VE HEARD IN OPPOSITION THAT IS SUPPORTIVE OF THIS, THEN WE CAN'T MAKE STATEMENTS THAT THIS IS GOING AGAINST, UH, THE COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE. AND SO, I, I, I, I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT IS NOT WHAT THE INTENT IS HERE. I BELIEVE THAT THERE WAS, UH, CONCESSIONS MADE. I THINK THAT THERE WAS, UH, DUE DILIGENCE MADE. I THINK THIS IS A VERY THOUGHTFUL PLAN. UM, AND I DO, UH, UM, WANT TO SAY THAT, THAT THIS IS, THIS IS NOT ABOUT THE FIEFDOM. I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH GOING AGAINST ANY OF MY COLLEAGUES, AND I THINK EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THAT. SO, UM, I, UH, WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS AND WANTED TO DECLARE THE RECORD FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE THERE. AND [05:25:01] I DO WANNA ALSO SAY THANK YOU FOR STAYING CIVICALLY ENGAGED. THE ONLY REASON WE'RE SPENDING TWO HOURS DEBATING THIS OR HAVING ANY, UH, ISSUE ON WHETHER OR NOT WE ARE GOING TO SUPPORT IT OR NOT IS BECAUSE OF Y'ALLS ADVOCACY. AND BECAUSE YOU HAVE FORCED US TO DO MORE DUE DILIGENCE THAN, THAN THE AVERAGE ZONING CASE, UH, IN THIS REGARD. SO THANK Y'ALL, UH, FOR YOUR VOICES. UM, BUT I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS MOTION. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR, AGAINST THE, UH, MOTION BY CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS? SEEING NOT A RECORD, WE REQUEST MAD SECRETARY, PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU IN FAVOR? NO. IF YOU OPPOSE, COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ENA? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DOA? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY? YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO PROM JOHNSON. DEPUTY MAYOR. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON. I'LL COME BACK. MAYOR PROTI? YES. ES. THANK YOU. MAYOR JOHNSON? YES. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM JOHNSON. I'M SORRY. . WE, WE JUST SEE YOUR VIDEO AND WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THE WORDS. OKAY. I AM GOING TO, OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO. TIM JOHNSON. YEAH, WE CAN HEAR YOU. YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU. YOUR, YOUR VOTE. OKAY. OKAY. IT'S ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN WITH NINE. VOTING IN FAVOR. FIVE OPPOSED? ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE MOTION PASSES. MR. MAYOR. OKAY, HOLD ON ONE SECOND. I TALK, UM, AGENDA REAL QUICK. HOLD ON. ALL THOSE PEOPLE ARE GONNA GET INVOLVED IN EVERY RACE. NOW, [PH1. 26-2921A A public hearing to receive comments regarding a proposal to change the name of North Harwood Street, between Woodall Rodgers Freeway and Harry Hines Boulevard, to “Exchange Place” and an ordinance granting the name change - STNAME-26-000006 - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information for potential future costs) *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] BEFORE WE MOVE TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, WE HAVE ONE MORE ITEM. WE'LL GO TO YOUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING ITEM PH ONE. PH ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING A PROPOSAL TO CHANGE THE NAME OF NORTH HARWOOD STREET BETWEEN WOODALL ROGERS FREEWAY AND HARRY HEINZ BOULEVARD TO EXCHANGE PLACE IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING THE NAME CHANGE. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 115 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS ABUTTING THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM PH ONE? NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, CHAIR MIRANDA, YOU HAVE A MOTION? YES. MAYOR, I MOVE TO APPROVE THE STREET NAME CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION WITH THE WAIVER OF THE FOLLOWING STANDARD SECTION 51 A DASH 9.304 C ONE, WHICH PROVIDES THAT A HISTORIC STREET NAME MAY NOT BE CHANGED. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED. SECOND INTO DISCUSSION. CHAIR MORENO. UH, NOT AT THIS TIME. ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? QUARTERS CHAIR RID. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? I CANNOT SUPPORT, I CANNOT SUPPORT THIS MOTION. THIS IS AN HISTORIC STREET NAME THAT HAS BEEN IN DALLAS FOR OVER A HUNDRED YEARS, IN FACT, SINCE 1872. THIS IS NAMED AFTER ALEXANDER HARWOOD, AN EARLY DALLAS CIVIC LEADER AND COUNTY OFFICIAL. I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT WE MAINTAIN A SENSE OF HISTORY WHEN WE HAVE A NAME FOR A STREET THAT [05:30:01] HAS BEEN, UM, ON OUR STREET ROSTER, OUR THOROUGHFARE PLAN FOR OVER 150 YEARS. WE SHOULD PAY A LOT OF RESPECT TO THAT. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WILL DISRUPT ADJACENT LANDOWNERS WHO HAVE ADDRESSES ON HARWOOD WILL HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR LETTERHEAD, ALL OF THEIR CONTACT INFORMATION. AND INDEED, THAT WAS THE BASIS FOR THE OPPOSITION THAT WAS RETURNED FROM GRANITE PROPERTIES STATING HARWOOD BOUNDS THE SOUTH SIDE OF OUR BUILDING AND IS THE ENTRY TO OUR PARKING STRUCTURE. THIS WILL LEAD TO CONFUSION FOR OUR VISITORS AND WILL NECESSITATE UPDATING OUR SIGNAGE, WEBSITE AND OTHER EXPENSES. I COULD SUPPORT SIGN TOPPERS IN LIEU OF A NAME CHANGE FOR THE STREET, BUT I JUST DON'T SEE THE JUSTIFICATION, PARTICULARLY WHERE WE HAVE AN ORDINANCE THAT THIS COUNCIL PASSED THAT SAYS IT PROHIBITS CHANGES TO HISTORIC STREET NAMES UNLESS THERE IS A SUPER MAJORITY SUPPORTED WAIVER. I JUST CAN'T SUPPORT THAT WAIVER. MR. ROTH, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. UM, THANK YOU. UM, I WANT TO, UH, THANK, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY'S, UH, FOR POSITION, UH, AND, AND THE ELOQUENCE OF HIS, HIS ARGUMENT. I THINK THAT'S EXACTLY THE RIGHT APPROACH. I LOVE THE IDEA OF MAINTAINING THE HISTORIC, UH, NAME OF THE, OF THE STREET, BUT I LIKE THE, THE SUGGESTION OF POTENTIALLY HAVING A, UH, SOME KIND OF A SIGN TOPPER, WHICH WOULD ACTUALLY ALLOW THE, UM, THE DISTRICT TO, TO OBTAIN SOME KIND OF A DES A A DESIGNATED, UH, IDENTITY. BUT, UH, I THINK THAT HE'S COME UP WITH A GREAT COMPROMISE AND, AND IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD SUPPORT SOMETHING, UH, LIKE A SIGN TOPPER ON TOP OF THE, THE MAIN SIGN. THANK YOU, MS. MIDDLETON, YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, I'VE ACTUALLY NEVER REALLY BEEN INTO HISTORIC PRESERVATION, BUT LATELY SEEM TO BE ALL ABOUT IT. AND I'M GONNA TELL YOU THAT HARWOOD ISN'T JUST A NAME FOR OUR CITY. IT'S ACTUALLY THE ENTIRE DISTRICT NAME OF THAT AREA. LIKE, PEOPLE KNOW WHERE TO GO WHEN YOU SAY, OH, IT'S IN THE HARWOOD DISTRICT AND WE'VE GOT ALL THE COWS . SO I'M NOT FOR CHANGING THIS NAME. I ALSO, UH, LIKE COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH AND RIDLEY WOULD VERY MUCH SUPPORT SOME SORT OF SIGN TOPPER, BUT I DON'T WANT PEOPLE TO, NUMBER ONE, HAVE TO CHANGE THEIR ADDRESS UNNECESSARILY FOR THERE TO BE CONFUSION ON DIRECTIONS, OR NUMBER THREE, TO LOSE THAT HARWOOD NAME. AND I, I'M NOT WILLING TO GO THERE. THAT'S, UM, UNNECESSARY. I THINK THIS IS WHAT MAKES DALLAS WHO WE ARE, AND WE SEEM TO BE FORGETTING THAT. THANK YOU CHAIRWOMAN WILLIS, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU, MAYOR. WILL I HEARTILY SUPPORT THIS CHANGE? BECAUSE IT IS FOR A SEGMENT OF HARWOOD, IT DOES NOT DO AWAY WITH HARWOOD AS A WHOLE. UM, I WAS HAPPY TO JOIN YOU IN THIS MAYOR. I THINK THE CRITICAL DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CEREMONIAL STREET TOPPER IS THAT YOU DON'T NECESSARILY SEE THAT ON A LETTERHEAD OR ON A WEBSITE, OR IN THIS CASE, LITERALLY ON THE MAP BECAUSE Y'ALL STREET IS ON THE MAP. AND THOSE BUSINESSES THAT ARE COMPRISE OUR NEW Y'ALL STREET NEED TO BE EXCHANGE PLACE. AND I THINK THAT MAKES A BIG STATEMENT AS PEOPLE LOOK NOT JUST ACROSS THIS COUNTRY, BUT GLOBALLY AT DALLAS, TEXAS. AND THAT'S WHY MAKING THIS SEGMENT OF THE STREET, UH, EXCHANGE TO HELP IDENTIFY Y'ALL STREET. MAYBE THE TOPPERS ARE Y'ALL STREET AND THE STREET IS EXCHANGE, BUT I, I HARDLY SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. CHAIR MORENO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THREE MINUTES. I THINK IT'S FIVE. MAYOR, FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UM, SO I, UH, UH, I'M EXCITED ABOUT THIS, UH, NAME CHANGE. IT'S GONNA BE REALLY PUTTING DALLAS ON THE MAP AS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT Y'ALL STREET. AND I BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY, UH, AN AREA SOUTH OF THE HARDWOOD DISTRICT, NOT IN HARDWOOD DISTRICT. SO I WANNA MAKE SURE THAT'S CLEAR. IT'S NOT AFFECTING THE, UH, HARDWOOD DISTRICT, UH, ITSELF. UH, BUT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S REALLY GOING TO HELP IDENTIFY DALLAS AS WE TAKE THAT HUGE STEP INTO Y'ALL STREET. AND I HOPE MY COLLEAGUES, UH, WILL SUPPORT THIS ITEM. THANK YOU. I WANNA SAY THAT ON THIS. [05:35:03] I THINK THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THE FINANCIAL SERVICES COMPANIES THAT ARE RELOCATING TO THE CITY AND THAT AREA REALLY WANT, I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY UNDERSTAND IS GOING TO HELP THEM MARKET THE AREA. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GONNA HELP BRING MORE OF THOSE TYPES OF COMPANIES TO THE AREA. AND I THINK NOT DOING SOMETHING THIS EASY AND THIS SIMPLE WOULD BE THE DEFINITION OF IRRESPONSIBLE, THE DEFINITION OF SHORTSIGHTED AND THE DEFINITION OF PETTY, FRANKLY, IN SOME CASES. SO YEAH, I'M GONNA GO ON RECORD RIGHT NOW AS SAYING IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO BENEFIT THE CITY, AND ALL THAT TALK THAT WE HEAR ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHAT'S GONNA BENEFIT THE CITY, THIS IS ABOUT AS EASY OF A LIFT AS THERE IS. BUT WE ALL KNOW WHAT'S REALLY GOING ON WITH SOME FOLKS AND THEIR AND, AND THEIR INTENT AND THEIR STATEMENTS. SO LET THE VOTE BE WHAT IT'S GONNA BE, BUT OWN THAT. OWN THAT VOTE. MADAM SECRETARY. YEAH. LET'S HAVE A RECORD. REQUEST THE RECORD. VOTE PLEASE. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE STATE YES, IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER KAENA? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DUA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM JOHNSON IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. MAYOR PRO. TIMM RESENDEZ? YES. MAYOR JOHNSON? YES. WITH NINE VOTING IN FAVOR. 10 OPPOSED? ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE ITEM FAILS MR. MUIR, AS IT REQUIRES. THAT'S, THAT'S 19 VOTES. NINE AND AND 10 EQUALS 19 WITH NINE VOTING IN FAVOR. FIVE OPPOSED? ONE ABSENT VOTE TAKEN. THE ITEM FAILS, MR. MAYOR, AS IT REQUIRES 12 VOTES FOR APPROVAL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A, A, UH, AMENDMENT THAT WE TABLE THIS TO, UH, TWO WEEKS FROM NOW. . IT'S AN, IT'S IN ORDER TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS. IF THERE'S A SECOND PARLIAMENTARY INQUIRY, STATE YOUR INQUIRY. HASN'T THE ITEM ALREADY BEEN DISPOSED BY A VOTE? HE SAYS IT CAN BE HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT 'CAUSE WE HAVEN'T GONE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM. SECOND. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IS IT DEBATABLE? IS WHAT WE NEED TO ASK NEXT. IT IS DEBATABLE TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS. IS THE MOTION IT WAS SECONDED. THAT IS A DEBATABLE MOTION. MR. BAZEL. DO, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO HOLD IT UNDER ADVISEMENT. YEAH, I, UH, AM NOT REALLY SURE WHAT HOLDING UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS WOULD DO, UM, TO CHANGE THE WILL, UM, OF THIS BODY. I DO BELIEVE THAT THERE WERE GOOD POINTS MADE ON, UH, THIS BEING MORE APPROPRIATE FOR A STREET TOPPER. I ALSO DON'T LOVE THAT WE HAVE BEEN PUSHING, UH, UH, TO MARKET THIS AREA FOR, UH, UM, TO BE BRANDED AS Y'ALL STREET AND, UH, AND, AND THEN THE STREET NAME DOES NOT REFLECT THAT. UM, WALL STREET, FOR INSTANCE, IS, IS NOT A STREET TOPPER, IT IS WALL STREET, UM, IN, IN, AT THE ACTUAL STOCK EXCHANGE. SO THIS JUST TO ME IS PERFORMATIVE. IT IS NOT MOVING THE NEEDLE FOR OUR CITY. AND IF IT'S AN EASY, EASY LIFT, WE SHOULD HAVE HAD, UH, AN EASY WILL, UH, TO GET THIS PASSED AND WE DON'T HAVE IT. SO HOLDING IT FOR TWO WEEKS. IF WE WANT TO GET ANOTHER L IN TWO WEEKS, THEN I GUESS WE'LL SEE WHERE THAT IS, BUT I WILL DEFINITELY NOT BE SUPPORTING IT NOW OR IN TWO WEEKS. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR TWO WEEKS? SORRY. HOLD ON ONE SECOND. WE'RE GETTING SOME CLARIFICATION ON THE TIMING. HOLD ON. IN THE MEANTIME. CHAIR STEWART, YOU RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU MAYOR JOHNSON. I THINK THIS IS AN EXTREMELY IMPORTANT DECISION. UM, I THINK A LITTLE MORE TIME TO DIGEST IT TO, UM, THINK ABOUT HOW IMPORTANT THIS IS AND, UM, AND TO JUST REFLECT ON THE PURPOSE OF IT, UM, GIVES US WOULD BE GOOD. SO I THINK TWO WEEKS JUST TO, UM, WORK THROUGH THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IS IMPORTANT. AND I THAT'S, I WOULD SUPPORT THE TWO WEEKS AS A TECHNICALITY. I THINK THE MOTION WOULD NEED TO BE AMENDED FOR THREE WEEKS NOT TO, UM, MOVE TO, UH, AMEND THIS TO THREE WEEKS. IT'S BEEN MOVED. SECOND. I SECONDED IT. [05:40:01] I HAVE NO OBJECTION TO MAKE I SECOND IT. TO MAKE IT TECHNICALLY CORRECT. MM-HMM . ANY OBJECTION? HEARING NONE. THE AMENDMENT'S SUBSTITUTED FOR TO BE ACCURATELY REFLECTING THAT WHEN WE MEET AGAIN FOR ACTION. SO THREE WEEKS, NOT TWO. WHAT'S THE MEETING DATE? JUST SO EVERYBODY CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE, THAT WOULD BE OCTOBER 14TH. OCTOBER 14TH. IS THE DATE? CERTAIN? OKAY. ALRIGHT. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WANTS TO SPEAK? CHAIRMAN, WHY YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES ON THE MOTION TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT? THANK YOU. I I DO AGREE WITH, UH, UH, MR. BASEL DUA THAT I, I DON'T SEE US GETTING TO THE VOTE THRESHOLD OF 12 VOTES ON THIS, UH, IN TWO OR THREE WEEKS. UM, BUT I, I DO THINK THAT IT IS, UH, AN IMPORTANT DECISION AND I DON'T SEE THE HARM IN, UM, IN REVISITING IT, UM, AFTER FOLKS HAVE HAD TIME TO TALK, YOU KNOW, TALK THROUGH THEIR CONCERNS, FOR EXAMPLE. UM, ARE THERE ACTUAL COMPANIES THAT ARE CONCERNED ABOUT CHANGING THEIR LETTERHEAD? YOU KNOW, I THINK THOSE ARE THE KINDS OF THINGS THAT MIGHT GIVE SOME FOLKS COMFORT. UM, SO I, I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM. I DON'T SEE THE HARM. THANK YOU, MR. BEZEL. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES? YOU'RE MUTED. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES. UH, CITY ATTORNEYS, DOES THIS TWO WEEKS CHANGE THE THRESHOLD OF VOTE THAT IS NEEDED FOR THIS TO PASS? IT DOES NOT. SO THIS WOULD JUST BE ADDING, OH, THREE WEEKS. I GUESS THIS WOULD JUST BE ADDING TIME TO GO THROUGH THE SAME EXACT PROCESS THAT WE JUST HEARD FROM THE BODY. THE ITEM WOULD BE ON THE AGENDA FOR, FOR A VOTE? YES. OKAY. WELL, I, I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT, UH, FOR, FOR EVERYONE, UH, TO SEE THAT IF, IF THIS DOESN'T HAVE THE WILL HERE, NOW LET'S SEE WHAT CHANGES. LET'S SEE WHAT VOTES CHANGE AND LET'S SEE WHAT DYNAMICS CHANGE. IS THIS GONNA BE UP TO ADVOCACY AND TO FILL THE CHAMBERS UP WITH THE POWERS TO BE OF OUR CITY TO TELL US WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO DO? OR IS THIS SUPPOSED TO BE DEPENDENT ON THE POLITICAL WILL OF THE BODY THAT WAS ELECTED FOR THE CITY? UM, I, I, I'M NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT THIS DELAY WOULD BE, UM, OTHER THAN QUITE FRANKLY, UH, UH, ANOTHER, AGAIN, ANOTHER OUTCOME. UM, UH, EXACTLY OF WHAT WE HAD HERE TODAY. IF THIS WAS SO IMPORTANT, AS SEVERAL COMMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE FOR OUR CITY, IT IT WOULD'VE BEEN MAYBE SOMETHING THAT WOULD'VE BEEN, UH, LOBBIED IN THE LEAST BIT. I HADN'T BEEN TALKED TO ABOUT THIS AT ALL. UH, SO FOR THIS TO BE CONSIDERED TO BE SO IMPORTANT, UM, IS VERY INTERESTING TO ME. BUT, UH, I I WOULD SAY THAT THERE, UH, UH, IS, IS CON THERE HAS BEEN CONCERN ON JUST ABOUT EVERY STREET NAME CHANGE WE'VE HAD AND HOW IT WOULD IMPACT, UH, PROPERTY OWNERS. AND, UM, AND I HAVE HEARD NO ONE ADVOCATE FOR THIS TO HAPPEN EXCEPT FOR THE THREE SIGNATURES, UH, THAT WERE ON A MEMO THAT CAME FORWARD. SO, UM, I I, I, I JUST DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GONNA BE GETTING, UM, A A DIFFERENT VOTE OUTCOME THAN WHAT WE HAVE HERE TODAY. SO I THINK IT'S VERY POINTLESS. UM, AND IT'S, IT'S, IT'S SOMEWHAT EMBARRASSING AS WELL. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. MS. MENDELSON, YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. I THINK THAT MIGHT HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE FUNNIEST THINGS I HAVE HEARD A COUNCIL MEMBER SAY IN A LONG TIME, WHICH IS COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL DUA SAYING WHO'S GONNA FILL UP THE CHAMBERS? BECAUSE ALL I CAN SEE IS RANDOM BILLIONAIRES AND BUSINESS OWNERS AND FORMER MAYORS COMING DOWN TO TELL US HOW WE NEED TO CHANGE THIS NAME. I CAN ALREADY SEE IT, AND I THINK THAT IS HILARIOUS. AND I DON'T KNOW IF THE EFFORT IS OVER THE NEXT THREE WEEKS, WHAT THE TRADE WILL BE TO GET SOME OF US TO SWITCH VOTES. I AM WILLING TO TRADE, BUT THE ONLY THING I WILL TRADE FOR WILL BE A CESSATION OF EFFORTS TO LEAVE CITY HALL. THANK YOU. THAT SOUNDED, UH, BORDERLINE IMPROPER, BUT I WILL SAY THIS, UH, , THERE, THERE'S NOT GONNA BE ANY LOBBYING EFFORT ON MY PART. I THINK I SAID EVERYTHING I NEEDED TO SAY TODAY ABOUT, ABOUT WHAT MESSAGE THIS SENDS. AND I THINK THAT IT'S, UM, A LEVEL, WE, WE'VE REACHED A LEVEL OF PETTINESS AT THIS POINT THAT I THINK IS UNPRECEDENTED AND PRETTY DETRIMENTAL. UM, EVERYBODY HEARD AND EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT THIS SECTION OF THE HARWOOD IS NOT THE ENTIRE THING, DOESN'T AFFECT THE HARWOOD DISTRICT AND IS ACTUALLY A GREAT THING FOR THAT AREA. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY ACTUALLY WANTED. AND TO PRETEND LIKE SOMEHOW THIS IS A CONSPIRACY BEING LED BY THE BILLIONAIRES OF THE CITY OR WHATEVER. IT MAKES FOR GREAT POLITICAL THEATER, BUT IT'S NOT, IT'S NO WAY TO RUN A [05:45:01] CITY. AND, AND, AND I THINK YOU KNOW THAT, SO, ALRIGHT, WE'LL SEE. WE'LL, WE'LL HAVE THE VOTE AFTER WE DISPOSE OF THIS MOTION. WE'LL HAVE A VOTE, I GUESS ON THE MOTION TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT IF THERE'S NO ONE ELSE. I THINK I'M IN THE QUEUE AGAIN. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR THREE MINUTES. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'VE EVER BEEN IN THIS SITUATION, BUT YOU'RE DRIVING ON A ROAD AND IT'S GOT ONE NAME AND THEN IT SWITCHES TO ANOTHER NAME AND THEN IT EITHER SWITCHES BACK OR MAYBE THERE'S EVEN A THIRD NAME. WE HAVE SEVERAL ROADS LIKE THAT IN DALLAS, BUT I WILL SAY THANK YOU. TWO WEEKS AGO, I'M SORRY, SIX WEEKS AGO WHEN Y'ALL APPROVED THE STREET NAME CHANGE IN DISTRICT 12, WHICH ACTUALLY CAUSED THE STREET TO BECOME A CONTINUOUS NAME INSTEAD OF RANDOMLY SWITCHING IN THE MIDDLE. WE SHOULD TRY TO LOOK AT ALL STREETS THAT CURRENTLY CHANGE THEIR NAMES SOMEWHERE AND MAKE THEM ONE NAME. WHERE'D THAT COME FROM? IT'S NOT WEST IS, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL STREET NAMES HERE. THIS IS NOT JERMAINE. I MEAN THIS IS ABOUT A DELAY. UM, THAT'S THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR FIGURE. SHE EVENTUALLY GET THERE, SO WE'LL LET HER GET THERE. GO AHEAD. YEP. SO I'M JUST GONNA SAY NOT FOR HAVING IT CALLED HARWOOD, ANOTHER NAME HARWOOD. THIS SOUNDS CONFUSING AND I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY PEOPLE DRIVE DOWNTOWN, BUT I KNOW WHEN PEOPLE FROM DISTRICT 12 ARE COMING DOWN HERE, THEY'RE SOMETIMES TURNED AROUND, SO IT'S ALREADY HARD ENOUGH. WE DON'T NEED TO MAKE IT MORE DIFFICULT FOR FOLKS, SO I THINK WE SHOULD JUST KEEP IT AS IT IS AND ADD A STREET TOPPER. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR OR AGAINST THE MOTION TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT FOR WHAT IS ACTUALLY CLOSER TO THREE WEEKS, I BELIEVE NOT TWO OCTOBER 14TH. SAY NONE. GO AHEAD AND HAVE A RECORD VOTE. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR, WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, PLEASE SAY YES. IF YOU'RE IN FAVOR. NO. IF YOU OPPOSE. COUNCIL MEMBER WEST. YES. COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER GRACIE? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER. ENA. NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BASIL? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER BLAIR? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMAN? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER STEWART? YES. COUNCILOR ROTH? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON? NO. COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS? YES. COUNCIL MEMBER RIDLEY. NO. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TIMM JOHNSON IS ABSENT WHEN VOTE TAKEN. MAYOR PRO. TIMM RESENDEZ? YES. MAYOR JOHNSON? YES. WITH EIGHT VOTING IN FAVOR. SIX OPPOSED? ONE ABSENT VOTE. TAKEN. THE MOTION PASSES MR. MAYOR. [ZONING CASES - CONSENT] OKAY, NEXT ITEM. LET'S GO BACK TO THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. WE WILL GO BACK TO YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA. THREE WEEKS. YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTED OF ITEMS Z ONE THROUGH Z NINE. ITEM Z TWO HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. ITEM Z FIVE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO AND ITEM Z NINE HAS BEEN PULLED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO AND REQUIRES A THREE FOURTHS VOTE. THEREFORE, YOUR ZONING CONSENT AGENDA CONSISTS OF ITEMS Z ONE, Z THREE, Z FOUR, AND Z SIX THROUGH Z EIGHT. I'LL READ THOSE ITEMS INTO THE RECORD. ITEM Z ONE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE ON PROPERTY BETWEEN SAMUEL BOULEVARD AND EAST I 30 FREEWAY EAST OF NORTH JIM MILLER ROAD, AKA 64 65 SAMUEL BOULEVARD. ITEM Z THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST LINE OF BUNNY VIEW ROAD, SOUTH OF TELEPHONE ROAD, AKA 9,300 BUNNY VIEW ROAD. ITEM Z FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT. DISTRICT NUMBER 4 3 9 ON THE EAST LINE OF SOUTH POLK STREET BETWEEN WEST BROOKLYN AVENUE AND WEST PEMBROKE AVENUE. AKA 1 0 0 2 WEST BROOKLYN AVENUE. ITEM Z SIX IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN R DASH FIVE, A SINGLE FAMILY DISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ELAM ROAD AND NORTH MASTERS DRIVE. ITEM Z SEVEN IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SUBDISTRICT FOR O DASH TWO SUBDISTRICT USES AND STANDARDS ON PROPERTY ON THE WEST CORNER OF CARLISLE STREET AND BOEING STREET, [05:50:01] AKA 3 1 0 9 CARLISLE STREET. AND ITEM Z EIGHT IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES IN CONJUNCTION WITH A GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE GREATER THAN 3,500 SQUARE FEET ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH LINE OF BRUTON ROAD, WEST OF PRAIRIE CREEK ROAD, AKA 9 0 0 9 BRUTON ROAD. YOU DO HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON CONSENT. YOUR, UH, ZONING CONSENT AGENDA, ITEM Z EIGHT GERALDINE ROGERS. YOU MAY COME FORWARD. MS. ROGERS, YOU WILL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK ON ZONING. ITEM Z EIGHT. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, MY NAME IS GERALDINE ROGERS, LIVE AT 26 0 2 E 11TH STREET, AND UM, I'M STANDING ON BEHALF OF MY CHURCH, STEPHEN TEMPLE. UM, THEY WANT TO OPEN UP, UH, TO SELL ALCOHOL NEXT DOOR TO THE CHURCH. AND WE HAVE LITTLE KIDS, I'M SORRY MA'AM, THAT ITEM IS, I BELIEVE PH THREE WE'RE ON Z EIGHT ITEM Z EIGHT. THAT ITEM PH THREE STEPHEN TEMPLE CHURCH WILL COME UP LATER AND YOU'LL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK AT THAT TIME. OKAY, THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ANY OF THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS THAT WERE JUST READ INTO THE RECORD? ITEM Z ONE, NO, Z THREE, Z FOUR AND Z SIX THROUGH Z EIGHT. I SEE, I SEE TWO INDIVIDUALS. YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND ONE, ONE SPEAKER AT A TIME AT THE PODIUM , PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHICH ITEM YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON. HELLO. UH, MY NAME IS RA JAFF. IT SAYS THE CASE NUMBER IS Z DASH 26 DASH 0 0 0 84. IT IS ON, UH, 9,300 BONNEY VIEW, UH, ROAD, DALLAS, TEXAS. ITEM E THREE. YOU MAY CONTINUE. ALRIGHT, GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. MY NAME IS, UH, ER JAFF AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU TODAY. I'M HERE TO RESPECTFULLY YOUR REQUEST, YOUR CONSIDERATION AND APPROVAL FOR THE PROPOSED USE OF THIS PROPERTY AS A COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE PARKING FACILITY. OUR GOAL IS TO DEVELOP, UH, AND OPERATE THIS PROPERTY RESPONSIBLY, PROFESSIONALLY AND IN A WAY THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THE NEEDS OF THE SURROUNDING COMMUNITY AND THE CITY OF DALLAS. WE DO UNDERSTAND THAT COMMERCIAL VEHICLE PARKING CAN RISE. IMPORTANT QUESTIONS REGARDING TRAFFIC, SAFETY, NOISE, APPEARANCE, SECURITY, AND THE IMPACT ON THE NEIGHBORING PROPERTIES. WE TAKE THOSE CONCERNS SERIOUSLY. OUR INTENTION IS TO MAINTAIN CLEAN SKEWER, WELL-MANAGED FACILITY WITH APPROPRIATE FENCING AND LANDSCAPING. I HOPE WE CAN GET YOUR APPROVAL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER, PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND WHICH ITEM YOU'LL BE SPEAKING ON. HELLO, THIS IS HAMDI. WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE SAME ITEM, UH, UH, NINE, UH, 3 0 0 BON VIEW ROAD. UH, I JUST WANT TO SAY ABOUT THAT WE GOT A RECOMMENDATION FROM CITY STAFF, UH, APPROVAL FOR 10 YEARS, ONE Z THREE, UH, WITH AUTO RENEWAL AND, UH, WE GOT APPROVAL FROM CPC FOR FIVE YEARS, UH, PERIOD ON THE SAME CASE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA ITEMS? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON ZONING CONSENT. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA WITH ITEM Z FOUR AMENDED TO COMPLY WITH TEXAS AGRICULTURE CODE CHAPTER 2 51 AND ITEM Z SEVEN AMENDED TO COMPLY WITH CHAPTER TWO 18 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE SECOND, MOVED IN SECOND. YOU CARE TO EXPLAIN THAT? YES, GO AHEAD. YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES LOOK TO THE GENTLEMAN TO YOUR LEFT. THESE ARE PROVISIONS OF STATE LAW WITH WHICH ARE ZONING ITEMS MUST COMPLY AND THAT IS WHY I'VE INCLUDED THEM IN THE CONSENT AGENDA MOTION. VERY WELL DONE. OKAY. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE ZONING CONSENT AGENDA? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT [Z2. 26-2890A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting an amendment to Planned Development District No. 17, on the southeast corner of Alpha Road and Preston Road, AKA 13410 Preston Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to staff’s recommended conditions Z-26-000079 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] ITEM, MA'AM. SECRETARY, WE WILL NOW MOVE TO YOUR FIRST PULLED ZONING ITEM ITEM Z TWO. [05:55:01] ITEM Z TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING AN AMENDMENT TO PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT NUMBER 17 ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ALPHA ROAD IN PRESTON ROAD. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 75 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED FOUR REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ZERO REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS? I SEE AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN. GOOD AFTERNOON. UH, GOOD AFTERNOON, YOUR HONOR. LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, MY NAME'S ROB BALDWIN. UH, 3 9 0 4 ELM STREET, SUITE B AND I'M REPRESENTING THE, THE THREE DIFFERENT PROPERTY OWNERS ON THIS PROPERTY. UM, THERE'S DRIVEN PROPERTY OWNERS SIX TRACKS. UH, AND THE PURPOSE IS THIS IS A PD 17, WHICH IS VERY, VERY OLD. UH, IN FACT IT'S REFERRED TO A ZONING DISTRICT. IT WAS LAST USED IN THE LATE 1950S. UH, THE PURPOSE OF THIS REQUEST IS TO BRING IT UP TO A CR ZONING DISTRICT AND AMEND THE PARKING TO ONE SPACE PER 300 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. UM, WE'VE HAD NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS. UH, THERE'S NO OPPOSITION TO THIS CASE THAT WE KNOW OF. UH, THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION MADE A RECOMMENDATION TO NOT FOLLOW THE APPLICANT'S RECOMMENDATION OR REQUEST, BUT GO TO, UH, THE CITY CURRENT PARKING CODE. WE DO NOT SUPPORT THAT. WE WOULD LIKE YOU TO SUPPORT WHAT THE APPLICANT BEING ME, UH, REQUEST. AND THAT'S ONE SPACE FOR 300 SQUARE FEET THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE PROPERTY. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AND I ALSO HAVE JOHN HETZEL, WHO'S ONE OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS HERE. UNFORTUNATELY, HE HAS TO RUN TO A SOCCER GAME OR SOCCER PRACTICE. I'M GONNA ASK HIM TO SPEAK, BUT HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO STAY AROUND FOR QUESTIONS FOR A LONG TIME. SO IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS FOR MR. HETZEL, LET'S GET THEM, UH, DONE RIGHT OFF THE TOP OF THE BAT, BUT I'LL STAY AROUND FOR AS LONG AS I NEEDED. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS? SEE ONE MORE SPEAKER COMING FORWARD. HI, I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. JOHN HETZEL, 26 22 COMMERCE STREET, UH, MADISON PARTNERS. WE ARE ONE OF THE THREE PROPERTY OWNERS. UM, UH, WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONSIDERATION OF THIS. UH, WE DO SUPPORT THE ONE TO 300 INSTEAD OF GOING TO BASE BASICALLY NO PARKING REQUIREMENT FOR THIS PD. UH, SO WE ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER THAT, UH, AS ROB MENTIONED, I I WANTED TO STICK AROUND FOR QUESTIONS, BUT I'M ALREADY 15 MINUTES LATE TO TAKING MY SON TO HIS SOCCER PRACTICE, SO ROB CAN PROBABLY ANSWER 'EM BETTER THAN ME. BUT THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM Z TWO? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, LOOKING FOR A MOTION Z TWO. UH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION. GO AHEAD. UM, I, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. UH, SUBJECT TO THE FOLLOWING CHANGES, UH, AGRICULTURAL USES ARE PERMITTED BY RIGHT, AND A PARKING REQUIREMENT OF ONE SPACE FOR 300 SQUARE FEET OF FLOOR AREA IS REQUIRED FOR ALL USES. SO WE MOVE TO A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION, MR. ROTH? UM, I'D JUST LIKE TO, UH, THANK THE, THE APPLICANT, UH, AND, UH, FOR, FOR THEIR, UH, RESPONSE. UH, JUST TO LET YOU ALL KNOW, THE OWNERS, ALL THREE OWNERS OF THE PROPERTIES THAT ARE INVOLVED HAD AGREED TO THIS. UH, THE NEIGHBORHOOD WAS, WAS, WAS APPROACHED. THEY'VE BASICALLY AGREED TO THIS. THE, I THINK IT'S A GOOD USE FOR THE, A GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR THE WHOLE AREA, UH, TO, TO CREATE THIS, UH, CHANGE. AND I, I'D RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT, UH, ALL OF MY COLLEAGUES, UH, VOTE IN FAVOR OF THIS. ANYONE ELSE WISHES TO BE CALLING FOR, UH, MR. WEST? YOU RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU, MAYOR. I APPRECIATE THE COMMENTS, COMMENTS AND THE COLLABORATION FROM, FROM EVERYONE HERE. I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS 'CAUSE THIS APPEARS TO BE GOING A LITTLE BIT BACKWARDS ON OUR PARKING REFORM, AND SO I KIND OF WANT TO UNDERSTAND WHY, UM, IF THE, UH, UH, PERSON WHO HANDLED THE CASE OR IF WE CAN GET SOMEONE FROM PLANNING AND DEVELOPMENT TO COME ANSWER A COUPLE QUESTIONS, THAT'D BE GREAT. YES, SIR. I CAN CERTAINLY TRY. OKAY. SO AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION LEVEL, UM, I UNDERSTAND THAT CPC VOTED TO, TO SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION, UH, FOR 51 A PARKING REQUIREMENTS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY? YES, THAT'S CORRECT. SO, UM, TO, TO YOUR POINT, THE PROPOSAL STAFF CONSIDERED THAT TO BE GOING BACKWARDS AS WELL. WE RECENTLY ADOPTED A CITYWIDE PARKING REFORM AND COUNCIL APPROVED THAT. UM, SO THAT [06:00:01] SET THE POLICY FOR THE CITY. UM, SO STAFF RECOMMENDED THAT WE JUST FOLLOW THE CODE AND CPC SUPPORTED THAT, THE MOTION AND THE STAFF REPORT. IT GOT A LITTLE MESSY, BUT ULTIMATELY THAT'S WHAT IT ENDED UP WITH, WAS TO FOLLOW STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AND GO WITH THE 50 51 A PARKING REQUIREMENTS, WHICH I, UH, SOMEONE HAD MENTIONED IT WAS EITHER, UH, THE APPLICANT OR MR. BALDWIN THAT IT WAS A, UH, IT WAS A NO PARKING REQUIREMENTS FOR THIS STRIP MALL. IS THAT RIGHT? UH, YES. UNDER, UNDER THE CURRENT CODE, RETAIL USES WOULD NOT REQUIRE ANY PARKING. UM, RESTAURANTS HAVE A SMALL, DEPENDING ON THEIR FLOOR AREA, WOULD HAVE A, A ONE TO 200 PARKING REQUIREMENT, UM, AFTER, UH, 2000 SQUARE FEET. SO IT, IT'S POSSIBLE THAT IT COULD HAVE A ZERO PARKING REQUIREMENT. SO BY US CHANGING THIS TODAY, WE ARE THE GOVERNMENT COMING IN TO TELL PRIVATE INDUSTRY HOW MUCH PARKING THEY SHOULD HAVE AND LEGISLATING, UM, PARKING AND HOW TO DO BUSINESS FROM THE HORSESHOE IS KIND OF WHAT I'M, I'M READING INTO THIS HERE. UM, WHAT IS, UH, IS THERE SOME INDICATION OF WHY ONE TO 300 SPACES IS NECESSARY? MEGAN, THE APPLICANT? I, I DO NOT KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. UM, IN THE APPLICATION MATERIALS, UM, IT WAS STATED THAT THERE IS PLENTY OF UNUSED PARKING, UM, AN EXCESSIVE AMOUNT OF UNUSED PARKING. SO I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE ONE TO 300, WHAT THE RE HOW THAT'S, YOU KNOW, THE RELEVANT NUMBER. UM, THE, THE PD CURRENTLY HAS PARKING RE REQUIREMENTS THAT ARE RANGED FROM I THINK 150 TO 200. SO THEY'RE ASKING FOR A 200 OR 300 ACROSS THE BOARD FOR ALL USES. MEGAN, DO YOU THINK IT'S THE GOVERNMENT'S ROLE TO OVERREGULATE AND REQUIRE ADDITIONAL PARKING THAT APPLICANTS DON'T NEED? I, I DO NOT THINK SO. I BELIEVE THAT WAS KIND OF THE POINT OF THE PARKING REFORM TO LET THE APPLICANTS AND BUSINESSES DECIDE WHAT THEIR BUSINESS NEEDS FOR PARKING. ALL RIGHT. I MEAN, THESE ARE JUST QUESTIONS I HAD WHEN I, WHEN I READ THIS CASE. UM, I WILL SAY THIS THOUGH, LIKE, I DON'T KNOW MR. ROSS'S DISTRICT. I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW DISTRICT ELEVENS. I DON'T KNOW THE SITE. AND I, UH, YOU KNOW, I, I TEND TO, I'M GONNA TEND TO DEFER TO THE COUNCIL MEMBER WHO HIS JUDGMENT ON WHAT PARKING IS NEEDED IN THIS AREA AND THE FACT THAT I KNOW HE'S DONE HIS DUE DILIGENCE. AND THERE IS, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE'S, THERE'S, UH, THE APPLICANT AGREES. UM, I TEND TO SUPPORT THIS EVEN THOUGH THIS, THIS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD DO IN MY DISTRICT. I, I DON'T THINK IT WOULD GO WELL IF I TRIED TO DO IT IN MY DISTRICT, ADD MORE PARKING, UM, IN MOST PLACES. SO, UM, I WILL BE SUPPORTIVE OF THE MOTION. UM, AND, UH, THAT'S IT. THANK YOU CHAIRMAN WILLIS. RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. YEAH, I JUST HAD A QUESTION FOR THE APPLICANT. SO WE'RE HEARING THAT THEY'RE OKAY WITH THIS, EVEN THOUGH THIS IS IN EXCESS AND I AM FAMILIAR WITH THE AREA. UM, AND IT DOES SEEM LIKE THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF THE UNUSED PARKING. SO TELL ME HOW THAT IS, UM, HOW THEY ARRIVED AT THAT. SO, YEAH, UM, YOU HAVE TO PUT THIS IN CONTEXT, UH, SITUATIONAL CONTEXT. UH, THE SHOPPING CENTER WAS BUILT AND THEN AFTERWARDS THE NEIGHBORHOOD BEHIND US ON ICK WAS BUILT. AND AT, DURING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS, THE NEIGHBORS WERE CONCERNED THAT THERE SHOULD BE SOME PARKING THERE AND THAT THERE WAS CONCERN THAT IF THERE WASN'T ENOUGH PARKING, THEN PARTS OF THE SHOPPING CENTER WOULD GET MORE PAD SITES AND PEOPLE WOULD BE PARKING IN THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD. SO WE CAME UP TO THE ONE TO 300 BASED ON ANALYSIS OF HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE THERE, THE SQUARE FOOTAGE THAT'S OUT THERE, AND TO ALLOW FOR A, A GOOD COMBINATION OF USES, SOME RESTAURANTS, SOME RETAIL, SOME OFFICE, SOME MEDICAL USES. RIGHT NOW, THE, THE FACT THAT WE HAVE THE THREE DIFFERENT OWNERS, SIX DIFFERENT LOTS, UH, IT GETS COMPLICATED IN SOME LOTS. THEY CAN'T SUPPORT ANOTHER RESTAURANT. YOU KNOW, THEY CAN HAVE A TAKEOUT, BUT THEY CAN'T HAVE A SIT-DOWN RESTAURANT. AND BEING THIS IS RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM, UH, WHERE HOPEFULLY THE MAVS WILL GO, THEN THAT WILL, WE THINK THAT THE CLIENTELE OF THE, THE WHOLE CENTER WILL GO UP AND WE WANT THE FLEXIBILITY. SO THE ONE TO 300 ALLOWS A LOT OF THE SPACES TO GO TOWARDS RESTAURANTS, BUT THEY CAN'T NOW. SO I THINK IT'S A GOOD COMPROMISE BETWEEN THE NEIGHBORS AND MY CLIENTS. ALRIGHT, WELL THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, MS. MENDELSSOHN. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. WELL, UH, DISTRICT 12 ONLY HAS ONE NEIGHBORING [06:05:01] DISTRICT AND IT'S DISTRICT 11. I ACTUALLY GET, I FILL UP MY CAR ACROSS THE STREET FROM THIS ACTUAL DEVELOPMENT AND, UH, USED TO HAVE A FAVORITE RESTAURANT THAT CLOSED DOWN THE MARKET, UM, WHERE WE ACTUALLY DID STRUGGLE FOR PARKING TO BE NEARBY. CERTAINLY YOU COULD, YOU COULD WALK, UM, BUT IF YOU WANTED A NEARBY SPOT, YOU LIKELY WEREN'T GETTING IT BECAUSE AGAIN, SAME ISSUE, SIT DOWN RESTAURANT. UM, I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS. I SUPPORT COUNCIL MEMBER ROTH. LOOKING FORWARD TO WHAT'S NEEDED. UM, IF THIS DOESN'T HAPPEN, I THINK YOU END UP IN A SITUATION LIKE GREENVILLE WHERE THE PARKING GOES ALL INTO THE NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT'S JUST CONSTANT ANNOYANCES AND FRANKLY, THE RESIDENTS WILL BE DOWN HERE AND A MILLION DIFFERENT, UM, PATCHWORK BAND-AIDS WILL BE PUT IN PLACE TO TRY TO ADDRESS IT. THIS WILL PROACTIVELY RESOLVE THE ISSUE FOR THE NEIGHBORS, ALLOW THE DEVELOPER TO THRIVE IN WHAT THEY CAN LEASE OUT AND MAKES PERFECT SENSE. UM, HOPEFULLY THEY WILL ALSO PUT MONEY INTO SOME REDEVELOPMENT OF THAT SHOPPING CENTER. IT'S DEFINITELY READY FOR IT, BUT, UM, I WAS REALLY HAPPY TO SEE IT. DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS HAPPENING, BUT, UM, AS I WAS STANDING THERE GETTING GAS YESTERDAY AT QT, UM, WRONG CUP TODAY, UM, I, I CERTAINLY WAS LOOKING AT IT GOING, THIS IS REALLY NEEDED AND I THINK THE STARBUCKS PEOPLE WOULD REALLY APPRECIATE IT AS WELL. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I STILL SEE A HAND UP. UM, CHAIRMAN WEST, DO YOU, IS THAT INTENTIONAL OR I, OR NO. CHAIRMAN WEST. CAN YOU HEAR ME? UNINTENTIONAL. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST Z TWO? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES [Z5. 26-2893A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Specific Use Permit for an alcoholic beverage establishment limited to a bar, lounge, or tavern and an inside commercial amusement use limited to a dance hall, on property zoned Tract A within Planned Development District No. 269, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the south line of Elm Street, east of North Good Latimer Expressway, west of North Crowdus Street, AKA 2638 Elm Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a one-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z-26-000136 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. AGENDA ITEM Z FIVE. ITEM Z FIVE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR AN ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE ESTABLISHMENT. LIMITED TO A BAR, LOUNGE OR TAVERN, AND AN INSIDE COMMERCIAL AMUSEMENT USE LIMITED TO A DANCE HALL ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF ELM STREET, EAST OF NORTH GOOD LATIMER AS BWAY WEST OF NORTH CROWDER STREET, AKA 2 6 3 8 ELM STREET. ALL RIGHT, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 15 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY REGISTERED SPEAKERS. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN, OH, I SEE ONE RIGHT THERE. YOU MAY COME FORWARD. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES. AUDRA BUCKLEY. 1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE ONE 50, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 1 5. HERE TO REPRESENT THE APPLICANT AND THE PROPERTY OWNER IN THIS. UH, THIS DOES HAVE THE SUPPORT OF THE DEPOT EL FOUNDATION FOR A ONE YEAR PERIOD. UH, THE ONE THAT IS IN OPPOSITION WAS THE ONE MEMBER OF THE BOARD OF THE D FFEL FOUNDATION WHO WAS OPPOSED TO GRANTING THE ONE YEAR. IT'S THE SAME FOR THIS ONE AND Z NINE AS WELL. SO IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, I'M AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z? FIVE? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, LOOKING FOR A MOTION ON Z FIVE. UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION. IS THERE A SECOND? IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. IS ANY DISCUSSION? CHAIRMAN? YES, MA REFERENCE FOR FIVE MINUTES? THANK YOU. UH, THIS IS A, UH, AS SUP THAT I AM GOING TO SUPPORT. UM, IT'S NOT ONE THAT I TAKE LIGHTLY. UM, I DO WANT TO THANK STAFF'S SUPPORT FOR, UH, GETTING CLEAR DEFINITIONS ON RESTAURANT USE AND ENSURING THAT, UH, THOSE, UH, IN THE ENTERTAINMENT DISTRICTS ARE GETTING THOSE SUVS AS REQUIRED. THE APPLICANT ORIGINALLY DID NOT GET AN SUP AND WAS ACTING, UH, AS A BAR INSTEAD OF A RESTAURANT. THERE IS A LAUNDRY LIST OF DPD, UH, AND A FIRE WITH OVERCROWDING, UH, MULTIPLE COMPLAINTS FROM NEIGHBORS. UM, AND SO WE WANNA, WE DO WANT TO THANK THE APPLICANT FOR APPLYING FOR AN SUP AND TRYING TO, UH, COME INTO COMPLIANCE. UM, AND SO WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS NEXT YEAR WATCHING THEM VERY CLOSELY. UM, I KNOW THAT THEY'RE LIMITED TO THE HOURS OF OPERATION, UH, OUTDOOR SPEAKERS, UH, KEEPING THE, UH, PROPERTY IN GOOD STANDING ORDER AND FOLLOWING, UH, FEDERAL, STATE AND LOCAL, UH, REGULATIONS. UM, I DO WANT, UH, STAFF TO COME UP TO LET US KNOW, UM, IF THERE ARE CONCERNS FROM NEIGHBORS, UH, IN [06:10:01] VIOLATION OF IF ANY OF THESE ITEMS THAT I JUST READ, UM, WHAT WOULD IT LOOK LIKE FOR A NEIGHBOR OR A BUS, A PROPERTY OWNER TO PUT IN A, A COMPLAINT, UH, TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING TO, UH, RESCIND THE, THE S-A-P-S-U-P? EXCUSE ME. YES. THANK, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. SO, TO RESCIND OR TO REEVALUATE AN SUP THAT WOULD NEED TO HAPPEN THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS. SO THE MECHANISM WOULD BE TO AUTHORIZE IT, UM, BY EITHER A THREE SIGNATURE MEMO FROM CPC OR A FIVE SIGNATURE FROM COUNSEL. UM, WE WOULD THEN HOLD A COM, YOU KNOW, AFTER AUTHORIZATION WE WOULD HOLD A COMMUNITY MEETING FOR INPUT AND WE WOULD SCHEDULE THE ITEM FOR CPC AND COUNSEL. SO IT WOULD GO THROUGH THE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AGAIN, AND THAT, THAT IS A POSSIBILITY. THANK YOU. UM, SO I HOPE THE APPLICANT, UH, TAKES THIS NOTE BACK TO THE OPERATOR AND ENSURES THAT WE ARE HAVING A THRIVING BUT SAFE NIGHTTIME INDUSTRY. UM, AND SO ASK, UH, MY COLLEAGUES TO SUPPORT A, UH, THE SUP BEFORE US. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST Z FIVE? SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT [Z9. 26-2897A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new Specific Use Permit for a bar, lounge, or tavern on property zoned Planned Development District No. 269 Tract A, the Deep Ellum/Near East Side District, on the northeast corner of Elm Street and North Malcolm X Boulevard, AKA 2901 Elm Street Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to a site plan and staff’s recommended conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval for a one-year period, subject to a site plan and conditions Z-26-000152 *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] ITEM. ITEM Z NINE IS A PUBLIC HEARING AND AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW SPECIFIC USE PERMIT FOR A BAR, LOUNGE, OR TAVERN ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF ELM STREET IN NORTH MALCOLM X BOULEVARD, AKA 2 9 0 1 ELM STREET, RIGHT, MR. MAY, MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 20 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ONE REPLY IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION. UM, THIS ITEM REQUIRES A THREE QUARTERS VOTE DUE TO 31.47% OPPOSITION. THANK YOU. WITHIN THE 200 FEET, THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM, BUT I DO BELIEVE I SEE A SPEAKER COMING FORWARD. AUDRA BUCKLEY, 1414 BELLEVUE STREET, SUITE ONE 50, DALLAS, TEXAS. THIS ONE IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE LAST ONE. THE DEEP EL FOUNDATION HAD VOTED TO APPROVE OR TO RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF A ONE YEAR SUP FOR THIS PARTICULAR APPLICANT. WE DID HAVE ONE ON THE BOARD THAT WAS OPPOSED AND THEY TURNED IN ALL OF THEIR, THEIR FORMS AND OPPOSITIONS. THAT'S HOW WE GOT HERE WITH THE THREE QUARTER VOTE. IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, LET ME KNOW. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z NINE? NO SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, ANYONE ELSE? UM, SORRY, IS THERE A MOTION FIRST ON Z NINE? I WOULD LIKE TO HOLD THIS TO LATER IN THE MEETING. OKAY, THAT'S FINE WITH YOU. THANK YOU. LET'S MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM, YOUR NEXT ITEM. ONE SECOND, MR. MAYOR. OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL, I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET, GET STARTED. OH, SORRY. OKAY. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. WE [Z10. 26-2255A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for MU-3 Mixed Use District, with consideration for FWMU-5 Form subdistrict, on property zoned FWMU-3 Form subdistrict with a shopfront overlay within Planned Development District No. 595, the South Dallas/Fair Park Special Purpose District, on the north corner of Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and Colonial Avenue Recommendation of Staff: Consideration of FWMU-5 Form Subdistrict within Planned Development District No. 595 Recommendation of CPC: Denial Z245-200(TB)/Z-25-000073 Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at the public hearings on January 14, 2026, March 25, 2026, and June 24, 2026, and is scheduled for consideration on September 23, 2026. *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM Z 10. ITEM Z 10 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING AN APPLICATION FOR MU DASH THREE MIXED USE DISTRICT WITH CONSIDERATION FOR FWMU DASH FIVE FORM SUBDISTRICT ON PROPERTY ON THE NORTH CORNER OF MARTIN LUTHER KING, JR. BOULEVARD AND COLONIAL AVENUE. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 17 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 200 FEET OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND ONE REPLY IN OPPOSITION. UM, I WILL NOTE THAT APPROVAL OF THIS ITEM WOULD REQUIRE A THREE QUARTERS VOTE. THANK YOU. YOU DO HAVE 12 INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. I'LL CALL THOSE SPEAKERS AND IF WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, I WILL ASK THAT YOU COME FORWARD. BABATUNDE ALA, RUN, PME, SIDNEY WALKER, JOHN MCGINNIS, T AMOUR, ESTHER ADEO, JACOB AJA, RAFAEL ADEO, AUSTIN, ANNETTE KAI, [06:15:01] KAREN ISAAC, CORE, TUNDE, MAKU, TIMOTHY, UH, KENNY YIMI AND FRANK MAY. WERE ANY OF THOSE INDIVIDUALS PRESENT? OKAY. OKAY. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT THAT'S NOT REGISTERED? YOU MAY COME FORWARD AND SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. ITEM Z 10. THANK YOU. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME IS JULIE STON. I LIVE AT 2230 KESSLER PARKWAY, DALLAS, AND I LEAD THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WORK AT ST. PHILLIP SCHOOL AND COMMUNITY CENTER IN THE FOREST DISTRICT. UM, ST. PHILIPS IS ACTIVELY LEADING NEW DEVELOPMENT AND REDEVELOPMENT EFFORTS THROUGHOUT THE FOREST DISTRICT, INCLUDING PROPERTIES DIRECTLY ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE SITE BEING DISCUSSED TODAY. WE ARE DEEPLY INVESTED IN THE GROWTH OF THIS NEIGHBORHOOD AND, UH, WORK ALONGSIDE RESIDENTS AND NEIGHBORING ORGANIZATIONS TO ADVANCE COMMUNITY DRIVEN GROWTH AND THOUGHTFUL INVESTMENT. I HAD THE PRIVILEGE OF SERVING ON THE TASK FORCE FOR THE SOUTH DALLAS AREA, SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK AREA PLAN, AND LATER ON THE TASK FORCE FOR THE RECENT REVISIONS OF PD 5 95. I WANNA THANK COUNCILMAN BASIL DUA FOR THE PRIORITY. HE PLACES ON COMMUNITY INPUT AND FOR HOSTING MANY MEETINGS ON THIS TOPIC. IN OUR LAST MEETING, UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF, UM, CONCERN ABOUT THIS DEVELOPMENT AND I AM ASKING THE COUNCIL TODAY TO DENY THE APPLICANT'S REQUEST FOR MU THREE AND I ALSO DO NOT SUPPORT THE STAFF RECOMMENDATION TO CHANGE THIS PROPERTY TO F WM U FIVE. JUST THREE MONTHS AGO, THE CITY COUNCIL, UM, ADOPTED THE REVISED PD 5 95, WHICH ESTABLISHED, UH, THIS AREA IS F WMU THREE. AND THAT ZONING IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT IS IN THE FOR THE FORWARD DALLAS PLAN, WHICH SHOWS THIS AREA'S NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE AND BOTH THE PLANNING RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE REVISED ZONING WERE THE PRODUCT OF YEARS OF WORK AND COMMUNITY INPUT. IMPORTANTLY, THESE PLANS DO PROVIDE FOR GREATER DENSITY AND THEY INTENTIONALLY, UM, WHERE IT IS APPROPRIATE. THEY INTENTIONALLY TRANSITION FROM NEIGHBORHOOD MIXED USE TO COMMUNITY MIXED USE AND THEN TO, UH, REGIONAL MIXED USE AS YOU GET, UH, FARTHER, CLOSER TO FAIR PARK AND THE DART TRANSIT CENTER WHERE GREATER INTENSITY IS APPROPRIATE, THE EXISTING, UH, F WMU THREE ZONING ALREADY ALLOWS MEANINGFUL DEVELOPMENT UP TO 50 FEET AND THREE AND A HALF STORIES, UM, AND THE APPLICANT'S PROPOSAL TO GO MUCH FURTHER AS WELL AS THE STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION. UM, NEITHER OF THESE CHANGES IN MY VIEW, REFLECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD SCALE VISION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED THROUGHOUT THIS THOUGHTFUL PLANNING PROCESS THAT LITERALLY TOOK US FIVE YEARS. A 80 FOOT BUILDING ALONE WOULD INTRODUCE A SCALE THAT DOES NOT CURRENTLY EXIST IN THE FOREST DISTRICT. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DEPARTURE FROM PREDOMINANTLY ONE AND TWO STORY CONTEXT, AND IT WOULD DWARF, UH, IMPORTANT HISTORIC BUILDINGS SUCH AS A FOREST THEATER WHICH IS CURRENTLY BEING RESTORED. WHAT CONCERNS ME MOST WOULD BE THE PRECEDENT OF DEPARTING FROM THIS FRAMEWORK ONLY MONTHS AFTER COMPLETING YEARS OF COMMUNITY AND CITY PLANNING. IF WE ESTABLISH ZONING, ZONING THROUGHS, EXTENSIVE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND THEN IMMEDIATELY INCREASE THE ALLOWABLE SCALE THROUGH INDIVIDUAL ZONING CHANGES, WE RISK UNDERMINING THE VALUE OF THAT PLANNING PROCESS AND THE COMMUNITY PARTICIPATION THAT WENT INTO IT. WE ARE SUPER EXCITED ABOUT THE GROWTH IN THE FOREST DISTRICT. I'M REALLY THANKFUL FOR THE SUPPORT THAT WE HAVE GOTTEN FROM THAT'S YOUR TIME, ADAM BASEL. SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DENY THE ZONING REQUEST. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM Z 10. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR. LOOKING FOR, UH, I MOVE TO FOLLOW THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDATION AND DENY THE ZONING CHANGE. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION MR. BASIL? DO IT. YES SIR. THANK YOU. WE HAVE FIVE MINUTES. THIS IS, UH, ITEM Z 10. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THIS CASE FIRST CAME BEFORE THE CITY PLAN COMMISSION IN OCTOBER OF 2025. SINCE THAT TIME, THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, EACH OF WHICH PROVIDED AN OPPORTUNITY TO HEAR DIRECTLY FROM RESIDENTS BETTER UNDERSTAND THEIR CONCERNS AND RECEIVE VALUABLE FEEDBACK ABOUT THE PROPOSED ZONING CHANGE. I APPRECIATE THE TIME AND EFFORT THAT HAS GONE INTO THIS PROCESS. I WANT TO SPECIFICALLY THANK THE WINNERS TOWER CORPORATION FOR THEIR CONSISTENT COMMITMENT TO MEETING WITH THE COMMUNITY FOR ANSWERING QUESTIONS AND LISTENING TO THE, THE FEEDBACK THAT HAS BEEN PROVIDED THROUGHOUT THIS PROCESS. I ALSO WANT TO THANK THE SOUTH DALLAS COMMUNITY FOR CONTINUING TO SHOW UP AND TO MAKE YOUR VOICES HEARD. COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS AN IMPORTANT PART OF THE ZONING PROCESS AND THE FEEDBACK PROVIDED [06:20:01] AT THESE MEETINGS HAS HELPED INFORMED MY CONSIDERATION OF THIS CASE. AFTER CAREFUL CONSIDERATION OF THIS PROPOSAL, THE HISTORY OF THIS CASE AND THE FEEDBACK THAT WE HAVE RECEIVED THROUGH THESE COMMUNITY MEETINGS, I HAVE DECIDED TO FOLLOW THE CITY PLANS, COMMI CITY PLANNING COMMISSION'S RECOMMENDATION, AND DENY THIS ZONING CASE. I WANNA BE VERY CLEAR, I TRIED TO DO JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING I COULD TO FIND SOME MIDDLE GROUND. I DID NOT WANT TO SEE A STRAIGHT DENIAL, WHICH IS WHY I DELAYED THIS CASE AFTER IT CAME TO US WITH A DENIAL. THE ORIGINAL ITERATION OF THIS PLAN WAS FOR 30 PLUS STORIES, UH, WHICH WAS GROSSLY INCOMPATIBLE AS MS. DIANE RAGSDALE WOULD'VE SAID. AND WE KNEW THAT IT WASN'T COMPATIBLE IN IN ALIGNMENT WITH THE BOTH THE AREA PLAN AND FORWARD DALLAS. I DO WANT TO CORRECT ONE THING THAT JULIE SAID, AND I LOVE JULIE AND SHE HAS, UH, ABSOLUTELY, UH, UH, AN INCREDIBLE ADVOCATE FOR THE COMMUNITY. UH, BUT I WOULD'VE BEEN WILLING TO PUSH THE ENVELOPE A BIT BECAUSE, UM, THE MIXED USE, UH, PLACE TYPE DOES AFFORD FOR THIS TO GO ALL THE WAY UP TO A HUNDRED FEET AND STILL BE IN THE SAME PLACE TYPE. HOWEVER, UM, I DIDN'T HAVE MUCH TO FIGHT FOR AND I WANNA MAKE IT VERY CLEAR THAT THE GROUP DID NOT COME WITH CONCRETE PLANS AND THAT'S WHERE THE HOLES REALLY GOT POKED INTO. WHEN WE HAD COMMUNITY MEETINGS, THERE WERE A LOT OF QUESTIONS AND CONCERNS ON WHAT THE ACTUAL PLANS WERE. ZONING IS SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT STICK WITH A PLAN. IT STICKS WITH THE LAND. AND SO WITHOUT A CONCRETE PLAN AND GIVING A BENEFIT OF THE DOUBT TO THE GOOD PEOPLE THAT THE APPLICANTS ARE, AND IGNORING THE COMMUNITY'S CONCERNS, BUT PUSHING TO, UH, UM, UH, GIVE A LITTLE BIT MORE HEIGHT THAN THIS WOULD BE AFFORDED FROM OUR, UH, AUTHORIZED HEARING. AND, AND THE BY RIGHT ZONING IN SOUTH DALLAS IN THIS PARTICULAR PLACE WOULD'VE BEEN ONE THAT WAS JUST BASICALLY PREPPING THIS LAND FOR A SALE BECAUSE I STILL DID NOT SEE ANY PLAN, UH, UH, UH, FROM THIS, UM, UH, THIS APPLICANT. I WILL SAY THAT THERE ARE VERY FEW PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN THIS DIRECT VICINITY. UM, AND, UH, THOUGH THOSE WHO I DID HEAR FROM ON A REGULAR BASIS, INCLUDING THE RESIDENT WHO IS THE CLOSEST TO, WOULD'VE BEEN OKAY WITH US GOING TO FIVE STORIES AND FINDING SOME SORT OF COMPROMISE. AND I DO BELIEVE THAT THAT WOULD'VE BEEN ONE TO, UH, UM, FIND. HOWEVER, WITH ALL THE TIME THAT HAS GONE BY FOR US TO STILL NOT SEE CONCRETE PLANS WITH TRUE RENDERINGS AND A, AND A AND A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING WHAT THE PUBLIC CAN EXPECT, I CAN'T IN GOOD FAITH PUT MY NECK OUT ON THE LINE FOR AN APPLICANT WHO HASN'T DONE THEIR DUE DILIGENCE. AND IT'S NOT MY PROJECT TO ADVOCATE FOR. SO ULTIMATELY I HAD TWO RECOMMENDATIONS TO CONSIDER AND ONE WAS FROM STAFF AND ONE WAS FROM OUR PLANNING COMMISSION. I DO BELIEVE THE PLANNING COMMISSION, UH, RECOMMENDATION, IT ENCAPSULATES THE, UH, SENTIMENT OF THE COMMUNITY IN THE WAY THAT IT HAS. AND SO FOR THAT, I WILL, UH, BE PUSHING FOR THE DENIAL AND HOPE THAT MY COLLEAGUES WILL SUPPORT. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST Z 10? THE MOTION ON Z 10. I SHOULD SAY C NINE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT. MOTION PREVAILS. NEXT ITEM, MR. MAYOR. UM, I BELIEVE WE CAN GO BACK TO ITEM Z NINE THEN. LET'S DO THAT. LET'S DO THAT. ITEM Z NINE WAS READ IN THE RECORD. AND, UM, I MOVE TO APPROVE THIS ITEM AS RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION. IS THERE A SECOND? SO WE MOVE TO SECOND DISCUSSION? YES, MAYOR. RECOGNIZE FOR FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. UH, THIS, UH, PARTICULAR SUP IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL ONE, UH, SORRY, THAN THE ONE THAT WE SAW EARLIER TODAY. UH, THIS APPLICANT HAS BEEN IN THE DEEP EL COMMUNITY FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND ONLY HAS, UH, A HANDFUL OF, UH, COMPLAINTS OVER A, A SPAN NUMBER OF YEARS. UH, THEY WORK CLOSELY WITH THE FOUNDATION AND THE ONLY REASON IT REQUIRES A, A SUPER MAJORITY IS THAT, UH, A ONE, UH, OF THE PROPERTY OWNERS NEARBY, UH, DID A OPPOSITION. UH, BUT IT IS A, UH, GOOD OPERATOR. IT'S AN OPERATOR THAT, THAT WE SUPPORT. AND SO I HOPE THAT I CAN HAVE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST THE MOTION ON Z NINE Z? NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [06:25:01] AYE. AYES HAVE IT. THANK [Z12. 26-3063A A public hearing to receive comments regarding an application for and an ordinance granting a new planned development district for LI Light Industrial District uses on property zoned A(A) Agricultural District, on the south line of Cleveland Road, west of Lancaster-Hutchins Road Recommendation of Staff: Approval, subject to conditions Recommendation of CPC: Approval, subject to conditions Z-25-000229 Note: This item was deferred by the City Council at public hearings on August 25, 2026 and September 9, 2026, and is scheduled for consideration on September 23, 2026. *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] YOU MR. MAYOR. WE WILL NOW MOVE TO ITEM Z 12. ITEM Z 12 IS A PUBLIC MR. MAYOR, WAS THERE A RECORD BOAT TAKEN FOR THAT? 'CAUSE IT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT WE HAVE 12. I THINK WE DO. AND I THINK, AND THE ANSWER WAS NO RECORD BOAT WAS TAKEN, BUT I BELIEVE WE HAD 12, BUT WE DIDN'T. I DIDN'T, SORRY. SAY IT AGAIN. WE DID NOT. UH, I THOUGHT WE DID. I WE DIDN'T. I WANTED, YEAH, EVERYBODY AND EVERYBODY WAS ON, AND ALL THE PEOPLE ON CAMERA TOO. WEREN'T CITY SECRETARIES WERE GOOD? WE WEREN'T. WE WERE GOOD? YEP. OH, I MEAN, IT'S, IT'S ON CAMERA, RIGHT? CITY SECRETARY SAYS WE'RE GOOD. SO WE'RE MOVING ON. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ITEM Z 12 IS A PUBLIC HEARING IN AN ORDINANCE GRANTING A NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT FORI LIGHT INDUSTRIAL DISTRICT USES ON PROPERTY ON THE SOUTH LINE OF CLEVELAND ROAD, WEST OF LANCASTER, HUTCHINS ROAD. MR. MAYOR, WE SENT 20 NOTICES TO PROPERTY OWNERS WITHIN 500 FEET OF THE AREA OF REQUEST. WE RECEIVED ZERO REPLIES IN FAVOR AND THREE REPLIES IN OPPOSITION. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS, AN INDIVIDUAL COMING FORWARD? PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR SANTOS, MARTINEZ, UH, 24 89 CAMINO PLATA LOOP, NORTHEAST RIO RANCHO, NEW MEXICO, 8 7 1 4 4. JUST WANNA COMMEND, UH, THE PLAN COMMISSIONER AND COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THIS DISTRICT AND, UH, WORKING WITH US IN CREATING THIS NEW PLAN DEVELOPMENT DISTRICT. UH, WE NOW HAVE A CONCEPTUAL PLAN THAT WAS NOT ORIGINALLY, UH, IN OUR, UH, APPLICATION. WE'VE, UH, MODIFIED SOME OF THE CONDITIONS ON, UH, UH, LANDSCAPING, TREE MITIGATION, PARKING LOT, TREES, THE SIZE OF TREES, UH, SOME ADDITIONAL BUFFERS FOR ALONG CREEKS. UH, STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. WE, UH, ASK FOR YOUR, FOR YOUR SUPPORT IN THIS REQUEST. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM Z 12? NO FURTHER SPEAKERS, MR. MAYOR. ALRIGHT, LOOKING FOR MOTION Z 12. UH, THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I MOVE TO APPROVE THE ZONING CHANGE AS RECOMMENDED BY CITY PLANNING COMMISSION SUBJECT TO A CONCEPTUAL PLAN WITH THE FOLLOWING CHANGES. NUMBER ONE, THE GENERAL MERCHANDISE OR FOOD STORE, 3,500 SQUARE FEET OR LESS IN SAND, GRAVEL, OR EARTH CELLS. AND STORAGE USES ARE PERMITTED. NUMBER TWO, PARAGRAPH FOUR, SUBSECTION A UNDER LANDSCAPING SHOULD READ EXISTING TREES MAY BE USED TO SATISFY THE SITE TREE REQUIREMENTS IN SECTION, UM, 51 A 10 POINT 12 FIVE, SUBSECTION B, PARAGRAPH FOUR, SUB SUBPARAGRAPH B ROMAN TWO. AND REQUIRED LANDSCAPE ISLAND TREES MUST BE A MINIMUM CALIBER OF FOUR INCHES. MAY, MAY I ASK FOR A CLARIFICATION ON THE MOTION? IS THAT APPROPRIATE? SURE. WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IS YOUR QUESTION? YES. UM, IF THE TWO USES LISTED FIRST WERE INTENDED TO BE PROHIBITED OR PERMITTED? PROHIBITED. PROHIBITED. THANK YOU. YES. SO THAT WAS THE MOTION. IS THERE A SECOND? ALRIGHT. IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. MS. BLAIR, DO YOU WANT YOUR FIVE MINUTES? WELL, YES. UH, OKAY. YOU'RE RECOGNIZED FOR THAT PURPOSE? YES. THANK YOU. MR. MAYOR. DISTRICT EIGHT HAS A, A LOT OF CREEKS AND A LOT OF NATURAL TREES THAT CAN'T BE REPLACED. I TYPICALLY ALWAYS TRY TO, TO, UM, PROTECT AS MANY OF THESE TREES AS POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT GIVES US THE, THE, UM, IN, IN THE HEAT. IT GIVES US NATURAL COVERING. IT GIVES IT, IT DOESN'T MAKE IT SUCH A, A HOT HEAT ITEM. SO WITH THAT, I, I ASK THAT YOU GUYS SUPPORT THIS BECAUSE WHAT I AM DOING IS RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THIS, UH, DEVELOPMENT IS A CREEK AND THERE'S TWO CREEKS THAT CONVERGE ON ON EACH OTHER SO THAT IT HAS A LOT OF NATURAL GREEN SPACE. I LIKE TO PROTECT MY TREES, SO I ASK THAT YOU ALSO VOTE FOR THIS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANNA SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST Z 12? SEE NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. AYE. ANY OPPOSED? [PH2. 26-2595A A public hearing (1) to receive comments regarding an application by Titanium Housing Partners, LLC and/or its affiliate(s) (collectively referred to as Applicant), to the Texas Department of Housing and Community Affairs (TDHCA) for 2026 4% Non-Competitive Low Income Housing Tax Credits for The Pemberton at Independence, a 257-unit multifamily residential development to be located at 4242 and 4150 Independence Drive and 4154 Preferred Place, Dallas, Texas 75237 (Project); (2) pursuant to Section 394.9025 of the Texas Local Government Code regarding bonds to be issued by the City of Dallas Housing Finance Corporation to finance the Project; and, at the close of the public hearing, (3) authorize a Resolution of No Objection for the Applicant, related to its upcoming application to TDHCA for the development of the Project - Financing: This action has no cost consideration to the City (see Fiscal Information) *In alignment with Dallas Housing Resource Catalog.] AYES HAVE IT. NEXT ITEM. THANK YOU. SORRY MR. MAYOR, YOUR NEXT ITEM IS PH TWO. PH TWO IS A PUBLIC HEARING ONE TO RECEIVE COMMENTS REGARDING AN APPLICATION BY TITANIUM HOUSING PARTNERS, LLC AND OR ITS AFFILIATE COLLECTIVELY REFERRED TO AS APPLICANT TO THE TEXAS DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND COMMUNITY AFFAIRS T-D-H-C-A FOR 2026 4% [06:30:01] NON-COMPETITIVE LOW INCOME HOUSING TAX CREDITS FOR THE PEMBERTON PEMBERTON AT INDEPENDENCE. A 257 UNIT MULTI-FAMILY RESIDENTIAL DEVELOPMENT TO BE LOCATED AT 4 2 4 2 AND 4 1 5 0 INDEPENDENCE DRIVE AND 4 1 5 4 PREFERRED PLACE TO BE LOCATED AT 4 2 4 2 AND 4 1 5 OH INDEPENDENCE DRIVE AND 4 1 5 4 PREFERRED PLACE, DALLAS, TEXAS 7 5 2 3 7 PROJECT TWO, PURSUANT TO SECTION 3 9 4 0.9025 OF THE TEXAS LOCAL GOVERNMENT CODE REGARDING BONDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE CITY OF DALLAS HOUSING FINANCE CORPORATION TO FINANCE THE PROJECT AND AT THE CLOSE OF THE PUBLIC HEARING AUTHORIZED A RESOLUTION OF NO OBJECTION FOR THE APPLICANT RELATED TO ITS UPCOMING APPLICATION TO T-D-H-C-A FOR THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROJECT. THERE ARE NO REGISTERED SPEAKERS FOR THIS ITEM. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON ITEM PH TWO? NO SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR LOOKING FOR A MOTION. PH TWO MR. MAYOR, I MOVE APPROVAL. IT'S BEEN MOVED IN SECOND. A DISCUSSION CHAIRMAN GRACIE? YES, SIR. JUST ANSWER FIVE MINUTES. THANK YOU. REALLY QUICKLY, THIS IS, UH, THE CULMINATION OF EFFORTS THAT STARTED WAY BACK ALMOST TWO YEARS AGO AND WE'RE FINALLY GETTING TO A PLACE WHERE WE GET SOME TRACTION. UH, IF MANY OF YOU REMEMBER, WE ORDERED OWNED, UH, 41 50, UH, INDEPENDENCE. THIS IS NOW GIVING US THE ABILITY TO REALLY DEVELOP ALL THREE OF THOSE INSTEAD OF ONE, UH, MOTEL, WHICH WAS, I WAS OPPOSED TO BECAUSE OF DEVELOPING PUBLIC PERMANENT SUPPORT OF HOUSING IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WAS GONNA BE, WAS NOT GONNA BE THE GIVE US THE OUTCOMES THAT WE WANTED. THIS NOW GIVES US THE ABILITY TO DO THAT AND ULTIMATELY REDUCE A LOT OF CRIME AND HAVE AN IMPACT ON THE RED BIRD IMPROVEMENT DISTRICT. SO WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO BE SUPPORTING THIS AND I APPRECIATE YOU ALL SUPPORT. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. ANYONE ELSE WANTS SPEAK ON FOR AGAINST PH TWO? SEE NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYES HAVE IT. NEXT [PH3. 26-2923A A public hearing to receive comments on an application for and a resolution granting a variance to the alcohol spacing requirements from a church [Steven Temple Church] as required by Section 6-4 of the Dallas City Code to allow a mixed beverage permit pursuant to Chapter 28 of the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Code, for a restaurant without drive-in or drive-through service with a food and beverage certificate [La Reyna Rental Properties, LLC - DBA La Reyna’s Micheladas], on the southeast corner of Alabama Avenue and East Saner Avenue - AV256-004/CPR-26-000301 - Financing: No cost consideration to the City *In alignment with ForwardDallas.] ITEM, ITEM PH THREE IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON AN APPLICATION FOR AND A RESOLUTION GRANTING OF VARIANCE TO THE ALCOHOL SPACING REQUIREMENTS FROM A CHURCH STEPHEN TEMPLE CHURCH AS REQUIRED BY SECTION SIX DASH FOUR OF THE DALLAS CITY CODE TO ALLOW A MIXED BEVERAGE PERMIT PURSUANT TO CHAPTER 28 OF THE TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CODE FOR A RESTAURANT WITHOUT DRIVE IN OR DRIVE THROUGH SERVICE WITH A FOOD AND BEVERAGE CERTIFICATE, LAIA RENTAL PROPERTIES L-L-C-D-B-A LAIA MICHELS ON THE SOUTHEAST CORNER OF ALABAMA AVENUE AND EAST SANER AVENUE. YOU DO HAVE FOUR INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS ITEM. YOUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CHARLES COX. GOOD AFTERNOON. MY NAME'S CHARLES COX. I'M A MEMBER OF THE STEPHEN TEMPLE CHURCH AND I JUST WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME AND SPEAK IN OPPOSITION TO THIS, UH, AMENDMENT OR PROPOSAL. AND WHAT I HAVE RESEARCHED HERE IS UNDER TEXAS ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE COVE, SECTION 1 0 9 0.33, LOCAL CITY COUNCILS AND COMMISSIONER'S COURT CAN PROHIBIT THE SALE OF ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES WITHIN 300 FEET OF THE CHURCH. THIS, UH, BUSINESS IS WANTING TO MOVE OR GET, THIS LICENSE IS ACTUALLY JUST ABOUT 16 FEET FROM OUR PROPERTY LINE, SO IT WOULD BE CLEAR VIOLATION. AND ALSO I HAVE READ UP ON RECENT STUDIES THAT SHOW THAT, UH, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE CELLS IN THE PROXIMITY OF, UH, DIFFERENT LOCATIONS CREATE A LOT OF MORE CRIME AND DISRUPTION IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THIS IS BEGINNING TO BE, UH, VIBRANT RESIDENTIAL AREA AND I KNOW THAT MAYBE NOT ALL, BUT SOME, REMEMBER WHAT ALL WENT ON WHEN WE HAD SUCH A BLIGHT OF THESE ALCOHOLIC, UH, SALES AREAS IN SOUTH DALLAS, AROUND THE SOUTH, UH, AROUND THE, UH, FAIR PARK AREA BACK IN THE LATE SEVENTIES, EARLY EIGHTIES, WHERE JUST PUT A BLYTHE ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO, I WAS READING IN TWO TYPES OF ESTABLISHMENTS THAT CAUSE PROBLEMS WITH THIS AREA IS THE, UH, ON-PREMISE AND OFF-PREMISE, WHICH IF WE JUST OPEN A PLACE THAT HAS A LIQUOR LICENSE TO SELL TO THE PUBLIC, IT CREATES A LOT MORE, UM, DISORDER, PUBLIC DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND, UH, DISRUPTIONS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. ALSO, IT, IT HURTS WITH THE TR PROPERTY VALUE, THE, UH, TRAFFIC, PARKING, LITTER, PUBLIC SAFETY CRIME, AND, [06:35:01] UH, A DENSITY OF ALCOHOL RELATED OUTLETS CREATES ADVERSE, UH, UH, EPISODES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE, UH, ALSO ONE, SOME MORE REASONS FOR THE RESTRICTIONS AND PROP PROXIMITY OF THIS IS WE'D LIKE TO PRESERVE THE PEACE AND QUIET IN THIS NEIGHBORHOOD, UH, PUBLIC ORDER AND ALSO PUT A STOP TO SO-CALLED VICTIMLESS CRIMES. THIS NEIGHBORHOOD IS BEGINNING TO BE A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD. PEOPLE ARE MOVING THERE WITH FAMILIES NOT JUST TO STAY, BUT TO LIVE AND RAISE THEIR FAMILY. THEY'RE BUILDING UPSCALE HOMES AND WITH, I THINK THAT THIS FACILITY WOULD BE JUST A, IT, IT, IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S A NO-BRAINER PUTTING US, UH, UH, AN ESTABLISHMENT THAT CAN SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO A CHURCH. THIS PROPERTY IS LITERALLY 16 FEET FROM OUR DOORSTEP AND THEY WANT TO SELL ALCOHOL OR HAVE A, A LICENSE TO SELL ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES. THAT'S GONNA CREATE ALL, ALL KIND OF PROBLEMS. YOUR THANK YOU . THANK YOU GERALDINE ROGERS AGAIN. GOOD AFTERNOON. UM, I JUST WANNA SAY THAT, UH, WELL I'M A MEMBER OF STEPHEN TEMPLE CHURCH AND, UH, WE HAVE LIKE, UH, SIX AND 7-YEAR-OLD, YOU KNOW, MEETING FOR THE KIDS TO HAVE PROGRAMS AND THEN WE GOT THE 16 AND THE 14 AND THIS, UH, PLACE THAT THEY'RE, UH, SELLING ALCOHOL WANNA BE RIGHT NEXT DOOR. WE HAVE THE WOMEN'S MEETING, JUST THE LADIES THERE AT THE CHURCH AND THEN, UH, IT'S JUST NOT, UM, TO ME NOT SAFE BECAUSE, AND WE ALSO GIVE FOOD TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE DON'T WANT THEM TO BE AFRAID TO COME BECAUSE RIGHT NEXT DOOR YOU GOT, UH, PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, BUYING ALCOHOL AND SITTING PARKING RIGHT IN FRONT OF THE CHURCH. THAT'S WHAT I WANTED TO SAY. THANK YOU. TOMMY COLEMAN. TOMMY COLEMAN IS NOT ONLINE. OKAY. I AM TOMMY COLEMAN. I'M THE PASTOR THERE AT STEVEN TEMPLE CHURCH. WE'VE BEEN THERE FOR OVER 50 YEARS AND, UH, AS, UH, ALCOHOL RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THE CHURCH, WE HAVE BUILT TWO FACILITIES THERE FROM THE GROUND UP. WE BUILT TWO FACILITIES THERE AT STEVEN TEMPLE. SO WE JUST TRYING TO HAVE THAT PLACE, YOU KNOW, FOR WHEN PEOPLES, UH, COME TO OUR COMMUNITY, THEY WON'T BE AFRAID. AND RIGHT NEXT DOOR WE HAVING A PROBLEM WITH PARKING ON SUNDAY MORNING, THEY'RE PARKING ALL ON THE STREETS THERE AND WE DON'T HAVE, THEY DON'T, THE PLACE DON'T HAVE A, A LOT OF PARKING AND THEN THAT NOT HAVING A LOT OF PARKING, THEY ARE USING SOME PARTS OF OUR PROPERTY. WE GOT BACKING OUR ON OUR CHURCH PROPERTY. SO, UH, IT'S, UH, IT'S GOING TO BE A PROBLEM WITH PROP WITH PARKING. IT WILL BE A PROBLEM WITH PARKING. SO WE JUST WANT TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO CONSIDER THAT PART FOR US. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. STACY HENDERSON? STACY HENDERSON? YES, I'M HERE. OKAY. UH, I JUST WANNA REITERATE THOSE THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN SAID BY, UH, THE, UH, MY PREDECESSORS THAT, THAT I AM A MEMBER OF STEPHEN TEMPLE AND ALL THOSE THAT HAVE, UH, SPOKEN. I REITERATE WHAT THEY SAY. THE PARKING IS BAD ALREADY. WE FIND THAT, UH, SUNDAY MORNINGS THAT WE'VE SEEN TRACKS AND TRAILS THAT HAVE COME ACROSS THE CHURCH'S PARKING LOT OF THOSE THAT HAVE PARTICIPATED OR HUNG OUT IN THAT AREA THE PREVIOUS DAY OR PREVIOUS DAYS THAT, UH, IT, IT CAUSES PROBLEMS AND, AND CONTINUED PROBLEMS WITH, WITH REPLANTING GRASS AND, AND, AND REDOING, UH, THE ASPHALT AT THE PARKING LOT FOR VARIOUS REASONS. [06:40:01] SO, UH, I AM TOTALLY AGAINST ANY TYPE OF, UH, MEASURES THAT WILL GRANT A LICENSE FOR ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES TO BE SOLD OR EVEN A RESTAURANT THAT WILL SELL MIXED DRINKS, UH, IN THAT AREA. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THOSE ARE YOUR REGISTERED SPEAKERS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL? I SEE TWO ONE MAY COME FORWARD. OKAY. PLEASE STATE YOUR NAME AND ADDRESS FOR THE RECORD AND YOU MAY BEGIN. I'M BRIDGET ROBERSON. I, I'M NOT JUST A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH. I AM A MEMBER OF THE CHURCH, BUT ALSO A RESIDENT, UH, THAT LIVES NOT FAR FROM THAT AREA. AND TO HAVE A LIQUOR STORE JUST OF OUR DRINKING FACILITY OR WHATEVER YOU CALL IT RIGHT THERE, UH, IN SUCH A NEIGHBORHOOD AS WE ARE TRYING TO IMPROVE, IT'S, IT IS IMPROVING, IT'S BETTER. UH, WE'RE NOT SO SCARED TO WALK OUT OUR DOOR AND COME TO CHURCH AND, AND, UM, NOW WE ALREADY HAVE A FACILITY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO US THAT IS, UH, RACING CARS UP AND DOWN THE STREET. AND, UM, AS THEY HAVE STATED, AND I WILL REITERATE, UM, NO VERY LITTLE PARKING AND UM, IT WOULD JUST BE, AND NOT TO MENTION THERE ARE SMALL CHILDREN IN THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AT THE SCHOOL. I'M ALSO A TEACHER, A RETIRED TEACHER, AND A SUBSTITUTE SUBSTITUTE TEACHER NOW. BUT, UM, I HAVE SEEN WHAT ALCOHOL FACILITIES RIGHT ACROSS THE STREET FROM CHURCHES CAN DO. AND SO I'M JUST ASKING YOU TO CONSIDER, UM, THAT THAT'S NOT THE GREATEST PLACE TO SELL LIQUOR. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. HI, UH, MY NAME IS REYNA SOLONO AND I AM THE OWNER OF THE RESTAURANT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO OPEN. I'M HERE AGAIN TO ASK FOR YOUR HELP. UH, I ALREADY BOUGHT THE PROPERTY ACROSS THE STREET. I OWN FIVE PROPERTIES ON THAT SAME CORNER. I BUY, I'M HAVE A LOT OF PARKING. THAT'S NOT GONNA BE A PROBLEM. AND ALSO ABOUT THE TRASH. I AM THE ONE CLEANING THE WHOLE STREET. I'M PICKING UP TIRES. I'M PICKING UP, THERE'S A ITEM RIGHT NOW SITTING THERE FOR ONE WEEK AND NO MEMBER OF THE CHURCH HAS GONE OVER THERE AND CLEANED IT. I'M THE ONE CLEANING ALL BOTTLES NOW. I OWN A BARBERSHOP. I OWN THE BUILDING. I OWN A RESTAURANT NEXT DOOR AND I ALSO OWN A LOT NEXT TO THEIR CHURCH WHERE THEIR CHURCH MEMBERS PARK THERE. I DON'T MIND, WE OPEN AT 11 IN THE MORNING. THEIR SERVICE ALREADY FINISHED. SOMETIMES THEY'RE STILL THERE, BUT I OPEN LATE FOR THE SAME REASON TO GIVE THEM OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR CHURCH. NOW I'M, I DON'T KNOW WHY I'M HITTING WALLS. I AM BUSINESSWOMEN. I'M TRYING TO, TO BRING THE COMMUNITY. THAT BAKING LOT WAS EMPTY FOR SO MANY YEARS AND NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING. I BOUGHT IT. I'M TRYING TO OPEN A RETAIL, UH, SHOPPING CENTER, TRYING TO PUT THE COMMUNITY AND TRYING TO TAKE HOMELESS OUT OF THE STREETS OUT OF THEIR AREA. I'M TRYING TO DO SOMETHING. THE COMMUNITY OF THE CHURCH DON'T DO NOTHING. THEY JUST, UH, ASSUMING THINGS AND I AM THE ONE THERE ALL DAY WORKING ON THE BARBER SHOP, CLEANING, TAKE, PICKING UP BOTTLES. NOW IF I DON'T GET APPROVED, IT'S FINE. PEOPLE STILL CANNOT BRING BEER TO THE BARBER SHOP BECAUSE I HAVE A BIG SIGN SAYING BYOB, BRING YOUR OWN BEER. I ALLOWED THEM TO BRING IT, BUT I'M TRYING TO DO IT LEGALLY. I'M TRYING TO GET ALL THE PERMITS I NEED. I'M TRYING TO PAY TAXES. I PAY TAXES FOR FIVE PROPERTY OUT ON THAT AREA RIGHT THERE. I OWN THE CORNER FROM THE BARBER SHOP. I OWN THE NEXT CORNER ON THE OTHER SIDE AND I ALSO OWN THE LOT THE OTHER SIDE. SO I'M PAYING A LOT OF TAXES AND I'M TRYING TO PUSH BUSINESS UP AND I CAN'T DO IT WHEN I'M HITTING WALLS. THIS IS THE, THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I'M HERE AND I WAS DENIED THE FIRST TIME FOR A PERSONAL ISSUE THAT SOMEBODY HAD AGAINST ME. DON'T LOOK AT PERSONAL. THIS IS BUSINESS. I'M IN BUSINESS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. THANK YOU. ARE THERE ANY OTHER INDIVIDUALS THAT WOULD LIKE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM? ITEM PH THREE. NO FURTHER SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR, IS THERE A MOTION ON PH THREE? YES, MR. MAYOR, I, I MOVE TO HOLD THIS UNDER ADVISEMENT UNTIL 10 14, 26. I'M, I'M SORRY MR. MAYOR, BECAUSE THIS IS AN ALCOHOL VARIANCE, IT WOULD REQUIRE TWO SECONDS ONLY TO APPROVE NOT TO UH, NOT TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT. THAT IS SO CORRECT. THANK YOU. THE MOTION IS TO HOLD UNDER ADVISEMENT AND IT'S BEEN SECONDED. IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? IS THERE ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE SAY NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? THE AYES HAVE IT HELD UNDER ADVISEMENT TILL 10 14? YES. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. [PH4. 26-2899A A public hearing to receive comments on a proposed municipal setting designation to prohibit the use of groundwater as potable water beneath property owned by GoodRE Singleton Investments LLC and generally located near the intersection of Singleton Boulevard and Vinson Street and adjacent street rights-of-way; and an ordinance authorizing support of the issuance of a municipal setting designation to GoodRE Singleton Investments LLC by the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality and prohibiting the use of groundwater beneath the designated property as potable water - Financing: No cost consideration to the City Recommendation of Staff: Approval] YOUR NEXT ITEM ITEM PH FOUR. ITEM [06:45:01] PH FOUR IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO RECEIVE COMMENTS ON A PROPOSED MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO PROHIBIT THE USE OF GROUNDWATER AS POTABLE WATER BENEATH PROPERTY OWNED BY GOOD RE SINGLETON INVESTMENTS, LLC AND GENERALLY LOCATED NEAR THE INTERSECTION OF SINGLETON BOULEVARD AND VINCENT STREET AND ADJACENT STREET RIGHTS OF WAY AND AN ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING SUPPORT OF THE ISSUANCE OF A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION TO GOOD RE SINGLETON INVESTMENT LLC FOR THE TEXAS COMMISSION ON ENVIRONMENTAL QUALITY AND PROHIBITING THE USE OF GROUNDWATER BENEATH THE DESIGNATED PROPERTY AS POTABLE WATER. BECAUSE THIS IS A MUNICIPAL SETTING DESIGNATION, IT REQUIRES THE FOLLOWING STATEMENT PURSUANT TO SECTION 51 A DASH 6.108 G THREE OF THE DALLAS DEVELOPMENT CODE. THE APPLICANT OR LICENSE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE APPLICANT WHO IS FAMILIAR WITH THE APPLICATION MUST BE PRESENT AND AVAILABLE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL. PLEASE COME FORWARD TO THE PODIUM AND IDENTIFY YOURSELF PLEASE. YES, MY NAME IS DAMON JOHNSON. I'M THE PROFESSIONAL GEOSCIENTIST REPRESENTING THE APPLICANT ON THIS PROPERTY. I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS AS NEEDED. THANK YOU. THERE ARE NO FURTHER REGISTERED SPEAKERS. ARE THERE ANY INDIVIDUALS? NOPE. THERE, THERE ARE NOT ANY INDIVIDUALS IN THE AUDIENCE TO ADDRESS THE CITY COUNCIL ON THIS ITEM, MR. MAYOR. SO THIS IS YOUR ITEM LOOKING FOR A MOTION. SECOND. ALRIGHT, IT'S MOVED IN SECOND. ANY, ANY DISCUSSION? UH, MS. KADANA? ANY DISCUSSION? ANYONE? UH, SEEING NONE. ALL IN FAVOR SAY AYE. ANY OPPOSED? AYE. HAVE IT. MADAM SECRETARY. MR. MAYOR, THIS CONCLUDES YOUR ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA, YOUR VOTING ITEMS ON YOUR AGENDA. HOWEVER, YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE SPEAKER, UM, OPEN MICS PERIOD IS, IT'S NEXT. LET'S, DOLORES PHILLIPS IS NOT PRESENT. HASSAM HASSAN HAS CANCELED. THEREFORE, THAT'S YOUR OPEN MICROPHONE. SPEAKERS. MR. MAYOR. SO THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THE MEETING. . THERE, THERE SHE IS. ALL RIGHT. MS. PHILLIPS, COME ON DOWN. ALL RIGHT. OR STAY UP, WHICHEVER YOU WANNA DO YOU WANNA GO UP THERE? YEAH. IS IT ON? IT'S ON. GO AHEAD. YOU CAN STAY UP THERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO COME ALL THE WAY DOWN. THAT'S UP TO YOU. LET'S DO IT. I FIGURED YOU WERE GOING. THEY PUT THE MIC EITHER WAY. THEY CUT IT OFF. YOU CAN COME DOWN. CALM DOWN. I'LL RECITE THE SPEAKER GUIDELINES AS SHE COME FORWARD. SPEAKERS MUST OBSERVE THE SAME RULES OF PROPRIETY DECORUM AND GOOD CONDUCT APPLICABLE TO MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL. ANY SPEAKER MAKING PERSONAL PROFANE, IMP PERTINENT OR SLANDEROUS REMARKS ARE WHO BECOMES BOISTEROUS WHILE ADDRESSING THE CITY COUNCIL WILL BE REMOVED FROM THE ROOM. YOU'LL BE GIVEN THREE MINUTES TO SPEAK. WHEN YOUR TIME IS UP, PLEASE STOP. YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO REFER TO A CITY COUNCIL MEMBER BY NAME AND ADDRESS YOUR COMMENTS TO MAYOR JOHNSON ONLY. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. YOU DO HAVE HANDOUTS. EACH ONE OF THOSE HANDOUTS WERE FILED WITH, UH, DALLAS COUNTY DISTRICT COURT TODAY. UH, I'M, I'M HUMBLED. I'M EATING HUMBLE PIE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, I HEARD YOU GIVE, YOU KNOW, BIRTHDAY SHOUT OUTS TO YOUR MOM. UM, MY DAD WAS CRYING TO LIVE. NOW REMEMBER, DF DASH 92 DASH 1 8 5. REMEMBER PR DASH 23 DASH 0 3 4 2 9 DASH TWO. WHEN YOU'RE LOOKING AT THOSE FABRICATED POLICE REPORTS, THOSE ARE REAL REPORTS THAT WERE USED BY HONORABLE JUDGE WARREN NPR DASH TWO THREE DASH 0 3 4 2 9 DASH TWO. I'M ALLEGING THAT JUDGE WARREN HAVE RECEIVED MORE FABRICATIONS. I DID A REQUEST FOR AN INVESTIGATION INTO, UH, GERALD BROOKS OVER AT JP COURT, HONORABLE NASH TO SEE WHY HE WITH ONE CASE HAVE THE SAME CASE WITH TWO DIFFERENT CASE NUMBERS AND PAYING RESTITUTION ON BOTH CASES. YOU GOTTA FIND OTHER WAYS TO GENERATE MONIES, REVENUES, TAXES, OTHER THAN BEING LEECHES ON POOR PEOPLE. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THIS IS GOING TO BE HUGE. UH, FORMER POLICE CHIEF GERALD, JOEL FITZGERALD AND THE FOUR WHITE WHISTLEBLOWERS WAS FIRED FOR SPEAKING ABOUT THOSE WHO ENTERED INTO DATABASES AND DID MANIPULATIONS. NOW I'M ALLEGING THOSE [06:50:01] POLICE REPORTS. TWO OF THEM INCLUDE AI AND TECHNOLOGY. I CAN SIT DOWN AND SHOW YOU WHY. NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID, AND ME BETTER UNDERSTANDING AI AND TECHNOLOGY, I'M NOT BOUND DOWN AND BACKING UP AND BENDING AND BOWING OUT WITH MY NAME CONNECTED TO THAT. I'VE NEVER HAD ANY ISSUE WITH ANY SECURITY. NEVER BEEN UNRULY OR DISORDERLY. AND YOU USED THAT AGAINST MY DAD. IT IS NOT A THREAT. YOU KNOW, I'VE BEEN KNOCKING ON DOORS 2012. I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE, ALL OF MY SPEAKING FOR 2012. IT IS TOTALLY ERASED. NOW I'M GONNA SPEAK HUMBLY BECAUSE YOU LOOKING AT ME BECAUSE I'M BLACK. I'M NOT VIOLENT, HOMICIDAL OR SUICIDAL, NEVER HAVE BEEN. NEVER WILL BE. NOW WITH THAT BEING SAID IN THE FLAG ROOM, I HEARD A WHITE ATTORNEY OR HE SEEMINGLY LOOKED WHITE SPEAKING TO SOME OTHER WHITE PERSON WHO LOOKED LIKE AN ATTORNEY. THEY SAID WHEN Y'ALL ERASE TROVES OF THEM RECORDS AND FILES AND THAT YOU'LL NEVER GET BACK. THAT THAT WAS BECAUSE SOMEBODY WAS ON TWO FABRICATIONS AND FALSIFICATIONS OF FILES. AND THEY SAID, WITH THAT BEING SAID, THEY STILL WERE PURSUING WHY THAT HAPPENED TO THEIR CLIENTS. THAT'S YOUR TIME. SO I'M SHARING THAT WITH YOU. THANK YOU. HONORABLE JOHNSON. YOU COULD BE ME. YOU COULD HAVE A FILE BUILT AGAINST YOU AND MAKE THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THIS CONCLUDES YOUR AGENDA FOR THIS MEETING. ALRIGHT? ALL RIGHT. TIME'S 5:32 PM AND THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED, MERCIFULLY. THANK YOU. * This transcript was created by voice-to-text technology. The transcript has not been edited for errors or omissions, it is for reference only and is not the official minutes of the meeting.