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[Call to Order]
MORNING.THE TIME IS 9:12, AND WE ARE CALLING THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS TO ORDER.
[MINUTES]
ORDER OF BUSINESS IS APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES.ANY, UH, QUESTIONS OR CHANGES? SEEING NONE, ALL IN FAVOR? AYE.
ANY OPPOSED? SEEING NONE, A MOTION CARRIES.
ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GONNA GO STRAIGHT
[BRIEFING AND DISCUSSION ITEMS]
TO BRIEFING ITEM A, INTERVIEW FINALIST FOR INSPECTOR GENERAL POSITION AND RECOMMEND CANDIDATES FOR THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDERATION.IT IS NOW, UH, 9:12, UH, AM ON OCTOBER 6TH, 2026.
THE AD HOC COMMITTEE ON ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS WILL NOW GO INTO CLOSED SECTION, SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT ON THE FOLLOWING MATTER DESCRIBED ON TODAY'S AGENDA.
ALL RIGHT, THE AD HOC COMMITTEE OF ADMINISTRATIVE AFFAIRS HAS COMPLETED ITS CLOSED SESSION UNDER SECTION 551.074 OF THE TEXAS OPEN MEETINGS ACT, AND AT 12:50, UH, PM ON OCTOBER 6TH, 2026, WE HAVE RETURNED TO OPEN SESSION.
UH, DO WE HAVE A MOTION? I MOVE TO RECOMMEND BARON ELIASON FOR THE IG POSITION FOR CONSIDERATION BY CITY COUNCIL.
WE ARE NOW GOING TO OUR SECOND ITEM.
GOOD AFTERNOON, MR. CHAIR AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE.
MY BRIEFING IS VERY SHORT AND CONCISE.
UM, THIS AFTERNOON, I'LL BE SPEAKING TO THE MATTER OF BOARD AND COMMISSION'S RESIDENCY AND REQUIREMENTS.
SO THE PURPOSE OF THIS BRIEFING IS, ONE, TO REVIEW THE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS APPLICABLE TO THE CITY OF DALLAS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
TWO, DISTINGUISH REQUIREMENTS ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY CHARTER, DALLAS CITY CODE, AND OTHER GOVERNING AUTHORITIES.
AND THIRD, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT, IS TO IDENTIFY AN OPPORTUNITY TO STANDARDIZE AND SIMPLIFY AN APPOINTMENT QUALIFICATION FOR THE YOUTH COMMISSION.
THIS SLIDE HERE, SLIDE THREE, SPEAKS TO THOSE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, WHICH ARE MAJORITY OF THE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE UNDER, UM, THE DALLAS CITY CODE CHAPTER EIGHT.
SO THIS FIRST, THAT FIRST ROW, UH, IS JUST, UM, JUST CATEGORIZING ALL THE BOARDS.
ALL THE BOARDS ARE LISTS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS ARE LISTED IN THE APPENDIX.
BUT WHAT THIS FIRST ROW IS STATING IS THAT, UM, MOST OF THE BOARDS FALL UNDER CHAPTER EIGHT.
UM, THE REMAINING BOARDS THAT ARE LISTED OR BOARDS THAT ARE UNDER CHAPTER EIGHT, HOWEVER, THEY MAY HAVE ANOTHER GOVERNING AUTHORITY THAT THEY HAVE TO, TO FOLLOW.
AND I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE THAT THIS PRESENTATION WAS DONE BEFORE THE COLLEGE ADVISORY COMMISSION WAS SUNSET BACK AT YOUR AUGUST 25TH, 2026 CITY COUNCIL MEETING.
SO ONE OF THE, THE MOST IMPORTANT THING THAT STANDS OUT ON THIS SLIDE IS, AGAIN, THE YOUTH COMMISSION.
AS YOU CAN SEE HERE, AGAIN, MAJORITY OF YOUR CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS, AND THIS IS WHAT THIS SLIDE LISTS, UM, HAVE RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS.
ALL OF THE BOARDS HAVE SOME FOR- FORM OF, UH, MA- MAJORITY OF YOUR BOARDS HAVE SOME FORM OF RESIDENCY REQUIREMENTS.
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HAS A DISTRICT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, AND THAT IS WHY IT'S HIGHLIGHTED HERE IN YELLOW TO SHOW YOU THAT AMONGST ALL OF THE DALLAS, AGAIN, THESE ARE THE CITY, UH, THE DALLAS CITY CODE BOARDS, UH, THE BOARDS THAT FALL UNDER THE DALLAS CITY CODE, UM, THAT NONE OF THOSE HAVE A DISTRICT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, ONLY THE YOUTH COMMISSION.SLIDE FOUR ARE YOUR CHARTER CREATED BOARDS.
AND AGAIN, IT'S JUST REEMPHASIZING YOU HAVE THE REDISTRICTING, CITY PLAN COMMISSION, CIVIL SERVICE BOARD, AND YOUR PARK AND RECREATION BOARD.
THEY HAVE A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, BUT NOT A DISTRICT, A COUNCIL DISTRICT SPECIFIC RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, MEANING THEY MUST LIVE IN THAT COUNCIL DISTRICT IN ORDER TO, TO SERVE ON THAT BOARD.
LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR ON THAT.
THE NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER MUST NOMINATE AN INDIVIDUAL TO SERVE ON, UM, THAT RESIDES IN THE SAME DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHAT I MEAN BY DISTRICT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, AND THAT ONLY APPLIES TO CURRENTLY YOUR YOUTH COMMISSION.
UM, AGAIN, THESE BOARDS AND THE BOARDS ON THE LAST SLIDE, THEY DO NOT HAVE A, YOU MUST LIVE IN THE SAME DISTRICT AS YOUR NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO THE RECOMMENDATION THAT I'M PROPOSING IS AN ORDINANCE CHANGE TO THE YOUTH COMMISSION ORDINANCE.
UM, CURRENTLY IN SECTION, UM, DALLAS CITY CODE CHAPTER 2-159.
1C3 IS WHERE IT STATES THAT, UM, NOMINEE MUST RESIDE WITHIN THE DISTRICT FOR WHICH THE MEMBER IS APPOINTED.
WHAT I'M RECOMMENDING IS THAT IN THAT ORDINANCE, WE DELETE THAT SECTION, UM, AND MAKE ANY NECESSARY CONFORMING AMENDMENTS TO 2-159.
2 SO THAT CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENCY RATHER THAN COUNCIL DISTRICT RESIDENCY IS THE APP- APPLICABLE QUALIFICATION FOR THE YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERSHIP.
AND THE OBJECTIVE IS TO ALIGN WITH OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, EXPAND YOUTH PARTICIPATION, REDUCE UNNECESSARY BARRIERS TO SERVICE, AND PROVIDE GREATER APPOINTMENT FLEXIBILITY WHILE MAINTAINING THE REQUIREMENT THAT YOUTH COMMISSION MEMBERS REPRESENT, UM, DALLAS YOUTH.
ANY QUESTIONS? AND AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO NOTE ON SLIDES THAT THE, THE FOLLOWING THREE SLIDES OF THIS PRESENTATION LIST ALL OF THE CITY OF DALLAS BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THANK YOU, UH, FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, IF I CAN JUST GET A LITTLE MORE HISTORY, UH, THE DALLAS YOUTH COMMISSION, UH, WAS ESTABLISHED, UH, IN THE MID, UH, 1990S? YES.
AND THEN WHEN WAS THE, UH, RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, UH, ENTERED? WAS IT IN 1994 OR WAS IT, UH, LATER ON? I WOULD HAVE TO CHECK, BUT IT WAS IN THE 90S.
IT'S EITHER WHEN IT WAS ESTABLISHED OR BECAUSE IT WAS, IT WAS SUNSET AND IT WAS BROUGHT BACK, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THAT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT WAS IN...
WHEN IT WAS BROUGHT BACK, BUT I BELIEVE IT WAS WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY CREATED, BUT I COULDN'T GET BACK WITH YOU ON THAT.
AND THEN YOU MENTIONED, UH, BARRIERS.
CAN YOU M - CAN YOU ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON WHAT SOME OF THOSE BARRIERS ARE? WELL, THE, THE BARRIER WOULD, WOULD BE, UM, HAVING A COUNCIL MEMBER FIND AN INDIVIDUAL TO SERVE ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD THAT RESIDES IN THEIR DISTRICT WHEN THERE COULD BE, UM, OTHER YOUTH IN OTHER DISTRICTS THAT WANT TO SERVE.
UM, UM, SO THAT'S, THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE BIGGEST BARRIER.
UM, I ACTUALLY WAS SURPRISED TO FIND OUT THAT, UM, THERE WAS A REQUIREMENT THAT THE YOUTH COMMISSIONER HAD TO RESIDE WITHIN THE DISTRICT BECAUSE I BELIEVE WE APPROVED SOMEBODY WHO DOES NOT LIVE IN THE DISTRICT RIGHT NOW.
IS THAT TRUE? THAT IS CORRECT.
CURRENTLY, THERE ARE ACTUALLY TWO INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE SERVING THAT ARE, THAT'S NOT, UM, IN THE DISTRICT OF THE NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO HOW IS THAT POSSIBLE? YOU GO THROUGH MULTIPLE CHECKS BASED ON OUR, UM, NOMINATED COMMISSIONER.
HOW WAS THAT EVER APPROVED TO COME TO COUNCIL IF IT DIDN'T MEET OUR RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT? IT WAS AN ERROR IN OUR OFFICE.
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IT WAS - FOR BOTH OF THEM? FOR BOTH.EVEN WHEN ONE IS SO NOTABLY NOT IN THE DISTRICT? IT WAS AN, IT WAS AN ERROR.
SO A COUNCIL MEMBER OF A DIFFERENT DISTRICT, THEIR CHILD IS SERVING AS THE APPOINTEE OF A DIFFERENT DISTRICT, AND YOU WOULDN'T HAVE KNOWN THAT THAT CHILD DID NOT LIVE IN THE OTHER COUNCIL MEMBER'S DISTRICT? THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.
AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THE ADDRESS ON THE APPLICATION.
I JUST DIDN'T KNOW THAT THIS WAS A REQUIREMENT, OR FRANKLY, I WOULD'VE BROUGHT IT UP WHEN IT CAME BEFORE US.
WELL, I WILL SPEAK TO A FEW YEARS BACK.
THERE WAS, UM, SHORTLY AFTER THE, UM, THE YOUTH COMMISSION WAS REESTABLISHED, UM, THERE WAS AN EXCEPTION MADE, YOU KNOW, A PRACTICE E- EXCEPTION MADE, UH, WITHIN THE OFFICE, UM, THAT WE WERE KINDA GOING BY FOR A FEW YEARS, AND THEN THAT...
AND THAT WAS IF THE INDIVIDUAL ALSO ATTENDED SCHOOL, UM, NOT NECESSARILY LEAH, BUT ATTENDED SCHOOL IN THE DISTRICT OF THE NOMINATING COUNCIL MEMBER.
WE MADE AN EXCEPTION YEARS, A COUPLE EXCEPTIONS YEARS BACK.
IT'S, IT WAS SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS, UH, REINSTATED, I GUESS YOU COULD SAY.
AND SO - WELL, I JUST WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY I WASN'T TOLD THAT.
I WOULD NOT HAVE VOTED FOR SOMEBODY WHO DIDN'T MEET ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS.
AND FRANKLY, QUITE OFTEN, WHEN THERE IS SOMEBODY WHO DOESN'T MEET A REQUIREMENT BASED ON A PROBLEMATIC INCIDENT IN THEIR BACKGROUND, YOU BRING US TO EXECUTIVE SESSION AND YOU TELL US THAT.
AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT BEFORE I VOTED ON THIS.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THERE WAS A YOUTH REQUIREMENT FOR RESIDENCY.
SO NUMBER ONE, WHY HAVEN'T BOTH OF THOSE PEOPLE BEEN REMOVED? THEY'RE NOT QUALIFIED CURRENTLY TODAY TO SERVE.
CAN THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE SPEAK TO THIS? HOW IS THIS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN? YOU GUYS ALSO DO A CHECK.
I DON'T THINK MOST OF THE COUNCIL KNEW THAT THIS WAS A REQUIREMENT.
WELL, I CAN SAY, I DON'T WANNA BRING THE ATTORNEYS IN, IT, THEY, THEY CAN.
THE FIX AT THE TIME IT WAS DISCOVERED, THE FIX WAS TO CHANGE THE...
UH, ONE OF THE THINGS WAS TRY TO, TO FIX THE ORDINANCE.
AND SO THIS PRESENTATION WAS BROUGHT, UM, WAS SET TO COME BEFORE THIS COMMITTEE A COUPLE OF MONTHS AGO, SHORTLY AFTER IT WAS DISCOVERED.
IT'S JUST THE, UM, PRESENTATION GOT BUMPED, BUT YOU ARE CORRECT.
WELL, THE FIX IS ACTUALLY TO REMOVE THE PEOPLE WHO WERE APPOINTED INAPPROPRIATELY.
SO WHY, WHY DID THEY PUT A RESTRICTION OF LIVING IN THE DISTRICT IN THE FIRST PLACE? NO, I DON'T KNOW THAT.
IT'S BEEN THERE, UM, A WHILE, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS, IT WAS JUST ASSUMED, UM...
YEAH, IT'S BEEN THERE FOR A WHILE.
WELL, I'M JUST GONNA SAY, YOU KNOW, DISTRICT 12 IS 97,000 PEOPLE.
WE'LL SAY MOST DISTRICTS ARE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN 85,000 TO 97,000.
EVERYBODY HAS A LOT OF CHILDREN IN IT THAT COULD SERVE.
IT'S NOT HARD TO FIND SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO SERVE.
I HAVE PROBABLY A DOZEN THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE.
I ACTUALLY WAS HOPING THIS ENTIRE COMMISSION WOULD GO AWAY, TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH.
AND SO I WAS HOLDING OFF ON THAT.
BUT THERE'S LITERALLY NO REASON TO NOT APPOINT SOMEBODY FROM YOUR OWN DISTRICT.
SO I UNDERSTAND THAT RESIDENCY RESTRICTION.
I WOULD LOVE TO PUT IT IN FOR MORE.
I'M ALSO NOTICING AN INCONSISTENCY ON WHETHER THEY'RE A DALLAS RESIDENT, A DALLAS RESIDENT FOR SIX MONTHS.
LIKE, WHY IS THAT NOT CONSISTENT? I, I CAN'T ANSWER.
THAT'S THE, THAT'S HOW THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN.
WELL, I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE WHEN I LOOK AT CITY PLAN COMMISSION ON YOUR SLIDE FOUR, IT SAYS MUST BE A RESIDENT OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I JUST CAN'T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD APPOINT SOMEONE TO SUCH AN IMPORTANT COMMISSION WHO HADN'T BEEN A RESIDENT FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS.
SO, YOU KNOW, CHAIR, I THINK THIS ACTUALLY NEEDS A LOT OF WORK.
WHEN, WHEN I SAW ALL THE VARIOUS, UM, DIFFERENT REQUIREMENTS AND QUALIFICATION NOTES ASSOCIATED, I THINK WE REALLY SHOULD LOOK AT ALL OF IT.
WE SHOULD LOOK AT IT IN A COMPREHENSIVE WAY.
BUT IN THE MEANTIME, WE HAVE TWO COMMISSIONERS, YOU'RE SAYING, THAT ARE NOT QUALIFIED TO BE IN THAT SEAT.
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THANK YOU.WELL, SO, UM, BILLY RAY, YOU KNOW, WE'VE WORKED SUPER CLOSELY IN, UM, DOING BOARDS AND COMMISSION, AND EVERY SINGLE BOARD AND COMMISSION HAS DIFFERENT QUALIFICATIONS.
AND I KNOW Y'ALL DO SUCH A GREAT JOB OF HAVING TO PROCESS ALL OF OUR, UM, APPLICATIONS.
AND Y'ALL ARE TYPICALLY REALLY GOOD AT CATCHING, UM, THINGS THAT I KNOW WHEN I USED TO SUBMIT, I WOULD OVERLOOK OR, OR MAYBE DIDN'T KNOW.
AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I'M REALLY S - ACTUALLY SURPRISED THAT THE YOUTH COMMISSION HAD A, A DISTRICT RESIDENCY C - BECAUSE NONE OF OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS DO.
EVEN SOME, I THINK, UM, ALLOW FOR A DALLAS COUNTY RESIDENT.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND SO, UM, YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S PECULIAR THAT THIS IS THE ONLY ONE THAT HAS THAT REQUIREMENT AND, UM, YOU KNOW, AND I WOULD WONDER WHY IT WOULD DO IT.
UM, SO I, YOU KNOW, I, I KNOW OUR OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONERS, AND HAVING WORKED WITH THE ONES IN DISTRICT SIX, WE, UM, TYPICALLY APPOINT DISTRICT SIX COMMISSIONERS AND RESIDENCIES, BUT IN, IN SOME CASES IN THE PAST, WE HAVE, UM, APPOINTED OUTSIDE OF THE DISTRICTS, YOU KNOW, UNDER CERTAIN, UM, CIRCUMSTANCES.
SO I, I DON'T REALLY SEE THAT THE RESIDENCY FOR YOUTH COMMISSION IS JUST SOMETHING THAT MAYBE WE HAVE TO FOLLOW SO CLOSELY, UM, IF THAT'S NOT SOMETHING THAT WE DO FOR THE OTHER, UM, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AS WELL.
SO, UM, I, I ALSO DIDN'T KNOW THAT IT WAS A, A REQUIREMENT, AND I ACTUALLY HAVE WHAT MY COMMISSIONER THAT'S NOT, UH, IN THE DISTRICT.
UM, AND SO I GUESS FOR ME, IT'S, YOU KNOW, DO WE MAKE A CHANGE MOVING FORWARD OR DO WE MAKE A CHANGE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE PROCESS? UM, THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I'M KIND OF TRYING TO FIGURE OUT IS HOW WOULD WE TREAT THIS IF IT WAS A DIFFERENT BOARD OR DIFFERENT COMMISSION? UM, AND SO I'M A LITTLE, UH, NOT SURE WHAT,
ON ONE HAND, WE WANNA FOLLOW THE PROCESS, UM - RIGHT.
AND, AND ON THE OTHER, IT'S, YOU KNOW, AGAIN, DO WE MAKE THESE CHANGES MOVING FORWARD OR DO WE ALLOW THEM TO CONTINUE, UH, THROUGHOUT THIS, UM, THIS TERM? UH, TO YOUR QUESTION EARLIER ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A MORE ROBUST, DEEPER LOOK IS I ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'RE GONNA HAVE TO CHANGE THE TERMS. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, UH, FOR ALL OUR BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS.
THAT IS SOMETHING I, I WILL BRING WHEN THERE'S, WHEN, WHEN THE, UM, COUNCIL LOOKS AT THE CHARTER.
UH, ANYONE ON ROUND TWO, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLESON? WELL, SO I'LL SAY THIS.
UM, UN- UNLESS YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, I'M ASSUMING THE PURPOSE OF HAVING EACH COUNCIL MEMBER BE ABLE TO NOMINATE A REPRESENTATIVE, PREFERABLY OF THEIR DISTRICT, UM, IS SO THAT WE HAVE THAT GEOGRAPHIC REPRESENTATION AND DIVERSITY, BUT ALSO THAT WE MAY, UM, ENJOY, UM, RACIAL AND RELIGIOUS AND ETHNIC DIVERSITY AS WELL.
AND THEN TAKING THAT OPPORTUNITY FOR A DISTRICT TO HAVE THAT REPRESENTATION FROM IT SEEMS COUNTERINTUITIVE TO THE PURPOSE OF HAVING INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS APPOINT PEOPLE.
AND, YOU KNOW, I, UM, I CAN IMAGINE THAT THERE WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION MADE IF THE, UM, DISTRICT IS REDRAWN, AND LET'S SAY YOU HAVE, AND WE'LL JUST STAY ON YOUTH COMMISSION, IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY WHO LIVED WITHIN YOUR BOUNDARIES AND THEY'RE ON THEIR FIRST YEAR OF A TERM, AND THEN THE DISTRICT IS REDRAWN AND NOW THEY'RE OUTSIDE, I WOULD IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD ALLOW THAT PERSON TO STAY THROUGH THEIR HIGH SCHOOL GRADUATION SHOULD THE COUNCIL MEMBER WISH TO CONTINUE NOMINATING THEM.
BUT TAKING THAT OPPORTUNITY AWAY FROM THE DISTRICT TO BE ABLE TO HAVE A VOICE OF THE PEOPLE WHO LIVE THERE AND KNOW THE AREA AND REPRESENT THAT PERSPECTIVE AND THAT EXPERIENCE IS IMPORTANT.
SO I HAVE TRIED TO NOMINATE PEOPLE FROM COLLIN COUNTY OR DENTON COUNTY TO SERVE ON THE YOUTH COMMISSION, AND FRANKLY, IN A LOT OF POSITIONS, BECAUSE YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS IS THAT THE OTHER COMMISSIONERS GO, "HOW
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ARE YOU IN COLLIN COUNTY?" BECAUSE THEY DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND THAT THAT'S PART OF DALLAS.AND SO I DO THINK THAT HAVING DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES IS VERY IMPORTANT, AND THIS IS ONE WAY TO ENSURE IT IS BY HAVING INDIVIDUAL COUNCIL MEMBERS NOMINATE PEOPLE, BUT ALSO THAT THEY NOMINATE THEM FROM THEIR DISTRICT.
SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE WITH GREATER THOUGHT, THERE'S A WAY TO CONSIDER, WELL, WHAT IF THAT APPOINTMENT LAGGED FOR A LONG TIME? SO I KNOW THAT, UM, I HAVE BEEN APPROACHED BY COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO ARE NOT EVEN ON THE, ON THE COUNCIL TODAY SAYING, "I'M HAVING A HARD TIME FILLING THIS SPOT.
DO YOU KNOW SOMEONE WHO MIGHT LIKE TO DO IT?" AND IN THAT CASE, SURE, IF THEY CAN'T FILL IT BASED ON THEIR OWN COMMUNITY, BUT I DON'T THINK IT SHOULD BE A GO-TO FOR, UM, ALLOWING ONE DISTRICT TO HAVE MUCH MORE REPRESENTATION THAN ANOTHER.
AND SO I DO QUESTION THAT, AND I THINK THAT REALLY, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD THINK DEEPLY ABOUT IN TERMS OF STANDARDIZING.
AND I, I AGREE WITH, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER KADENA HERE THAT, YOU KNOW, I FEEL LIKE I'VE ASKED YOU A THOUSAND QUESTIONS OVER THE YEARS ABOUT THESE APPOINTMENTS AND WELL, WHAT ABOUT THIS AND WHAT ABOUT THAT? AND IT WOULD BE A GREAT EFFICIENCY FOR YOU AS WELL TO HAVE SOME OF THIS STANDARDIZED.
SO I DO THINK IT NEEDS GREATER THOUGHT.
I APPRECIATE BEING GIVEN THE INFORMATION, BUT NOW I THINK WE NEED A STANDARDIZED RECOMMENDATION, AND I WOULD LIKE TO, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT IN A MORE COMPREHENSIVE WAY THAN TRYING TO, WHAT APPEARS TO ME TO EITHER BE CORRECTING ACTIONS THAT WERE TAKEN PERHAPS BY ACCIDENT OR NOT, UM, OR MAKING EXCEPTIONS FOR, FRANKLY, THE CHILDREN OF COUNCIL MEMBERS.
AND I'M SORRY TO SAY IT LIKE THAT, BUT THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE HAPPENED.
I DIDN'T REALIZE THAT WE HAD THAT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT OR I GUARANTEE YOU WE WOULD'VE HAD A FULL COUNCIL DISCUSSION ABOUT IT AT THAT APPOINTMENT TIME.
SO, UM, ARE, WHAT ARE WE LOOKING FOR EXACTLY TODAY? YEAH.
UM, SO IT'S ONLY, UH, LISTED AS A DISCUSSION, UH, ON THE AGENDA.
IT'S A DISCUSSION, BUT I WANTED TO H - AND, UM, A- AGAIN, UH, IN RESPONSE TO EVEN COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSINDA, IT WAS IDENTIFIED AND THE FIX WAS TO PLACE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA, UM, PLACE THAT ORDINANCE ON YOUR COUNCIL AGENDA BACK IN AUGUST TO REMOVE THAT SO THE INDIVIDUALS, YOU KNOW, COULD BE IN APPLY, UH, IN COMPLIANCE AT THAT TIME.
UM, BUT AGAIN, THE AGENDA, UH, MY, MY PRESENTATION GOT BOMBED AND HERE WE ARE IN OCTOBER, SO YES, IT, THEY, THEY'VE BEEN SITTING THERE, UM, INELIGIBLE.
SO EVEN WITH THIS PRESENTATION, I WAS WANTING TO ASK THIS COMMITTEE IF I COULD BRING AN ORDINANCE TO THE NE - YOUR, THE NEXT AGENDA, THE NEXT AVAILABLE AGENDA, REQUESTING THAT TO, TO FIX THAT.
UM, BUT, SO I HAVE TWO OPTIONS.
UM, WELL, I HAVE ONE OPTION, UM, BECAUSE OF THE, THE TIMING ON THIS AND THE WAY THIS IS GOING, I'VE, IT, I HAVE TO REMOVE THE INDIVIDUALS.
IF I BRING IT TO COUNCIL IN OCTOBER, UM, THE 14TH OR THE 28TH, THEY CAN BE REAPPOINTED.
IT, IF I BRING THE ITEM TO COUNCIL REQUESTING THE DELETION OF THAT SECTION IN THE ORDINANCE, AND IT'S APPROVED BY, BY COUNCIL, THEN IT, IT'S A MATTER OF JUST PUTTING, PLACING THEM, REAPPOINTING THEM BACK ON THE BOARD.
AND IT SEEMS LIKE THAT'S WHERE I AM NOW.
UM, SO MY RECOMMENDATION IS TO, FOR, IS TO, TO PUT AN ITEM ON THE EARLIEST AGENDA, RECOMMENDING THE DELETION IN ORDER TO GET THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN COMPLIANCE SO THEY CAN SERVE ON THE BOARD.
CHAIR, I, I, I'M JUST NOT UNDERSTANDING THIS.
I, I BELIEVE YOU, THERE MIGHT HAVE BEEN AN OVERSIGHT FOR, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOW IDENTIFYING THAT IT'S YOUR COM - YOUR YOUTH COMMISSIONER.
I FIND IT VERY DIFFICULT TO BELIEVE THAT WE WOULD NOT HAVE KNOWN THAT A SITTING COUNCIL MEMBER'S CHILD WAS BEING APPOINTED IN ANOTHER DISTRICT AND WE DIDN'T KNOW THAT THERE WAS A RESIDENCY PROBLEM IN YOUR OFFICE.
I DON'T THINK WE KNEW, BECAUSE CLEARLY, THIS HAS ALL GOTTEN OUT AT THIS POINT.
BUT IT SURE SOUNDS LIKE IT WAS ALLOWED TO HAPPEN, ALTHOUGH YOU KNEW THE RESIDENCY
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REQUIREMENT, AND THEN IT'S, "WELL, LET'S JUST PAPER IT UP AND CHANGE THE REQUIREMENTS EVEN THOUGH WE LET YOU DO IT." AND THAT IS SO BACKWARDS.SO HAD IT COME TO THE COMMITTEE SAYING, "WE WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE THIS SO THAT THERE ISN'T A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT," FIRST, WE WOULD'VE ALL BEEN SURPRISED THERE WAS ONE.
BUT WE PROBABLY WOULD'VE JUST CHANGED IT, RIGHT? OR THERE WOULD'VE BEEN A THOUGHTFUL CONVERSATION ON WHY MAYBE IT'S IMPORTANT, AND MAYBE WE SHOULD ADD IT TO SOME OF THE OTHER POSITIONS, WHICH WOULD BE MY, BY THE WAY, POSITION.
BUT THERE'S, THERE'S A VERY, UM, UNCOMFORTABLE DISCUSSION HAPPENING NOW BECAUSE IT IS ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES AND, YOU KNOW, THIS IS NOT POLITICAL.
I DON'T CARE WHOSE CHILD IT IS.
AND IT IS CERTAINLY NOT MEANT TO BE PERSONAL TO ANYBODY ON COUNCIL OR THEIR CHILD.
BUT YOU'VE PUT US, FRANKLY, IN A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION, AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE GONNA MAKE A SPECIAL RULE, AND WE'RE GONNA ACTUALLY CHANGE THE RULES FOR ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
THAT'S WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, AND IT FEELS VERY, VERY UNCOMFORTABLE THAT THIS HAS HAPPENED, AND I REALLY DON'T APPRECIATE HOW THIS HAS ALL BEEN HANDLED.
AND SO, YES, I THINK BOTH THE COMMISSIONERS SHOULD BE REMOVED BECAUSE THEY DO NOT MEET THE QUALIFICATIONS.
WE SHOULD'VE NEVER BEEN ABLE TO VOTE ON THEM.
AND IF THERE WAS AN INTEREST IN CHANGING THE POLICY, IT SHOULD'VE BEEN BROUGHT TO US BEFOREHAND.
BUT I CERTAINLY AM OBJECTING TO THE IDEA THAT WE'RE GONNA NOW CHANGE POLICY TO WHAT LOOKS LIKE HELP ONE OF OUR COLLEAGUES.
AND THAT IS REALLY PRETTY SHOCKING.
I, I HATE THAT THIS IS PLAYING OUT ON CAMERA, AND I, I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT ELSE TO SAY.
CAN I ALSO ADD, IT'S THE ONLY BOARD THAT ALSO HAS THIS DISTRICT, UM, SPECIFIC REQUIREMENT, RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
BUT IT WAS NOT UNKNOWN, RIGHT? THERE'S...
MY RECOLLECTION IS THERE'S FOUR DIFFERENT KINDS OF CHECKS THAT HAPPEN FOR EVERY PERSON WE NOMINATE.
IS THAT RIGHT? ONE OF THEM'S A CITY ATTORNEY, ONE OF THEM IS A CITY SECRETARY.
THERE'S LIKE A CRIMINAL BACKGROUND AND - IT'S LIKE FIVE, YES.
AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT IN ALL OF THOSE CHECKS, NO ONE WENT, "WOW, THIS PERSON HAS THE SAME LAST NAME AS A COUNCIL MEMBER, AND IT IS THE COUNCIL MEMBER'S CHILD, AND IT'S A DIFFERENT COUNCIL DISTRICT, AND WE KNOW THERE'S THIS REQUIREMENT." STAFF KNEW, BUT THE ELECTEDS DIDN'T.
AND, AND WE TURN OVER A LOT MORE THAN STAFF.
BUT THIS SHOULD NEVER HAVE COME TO US.
THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN, "YOU CAN'T DO IT.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE THE RULE, WELL THEN GO CHANGE THE RULE AND THEN YOU CAN NOMINATE SOMEONE." BUT THIS IS BACKWARDS.
AND NOW IT'S LIKE WE'RE CHANGING THE RULES FOR OUR OWN COLLEAGUES.
AND COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON, UM, THAT IS NOT THE CASE.
I CAN TELL YOU, EVEN MYSELF, I DID NOT KNOW, AND DEFINITELY MY STAFF DID NOT KNOW THAT THAT INDIVIDUAL WAS A, WAS A COUNCIL, WAS A DAUGHTER OF A COUNCIL MEMBER.
SO WE, WE NOW KNOW THAT THERE'S TWO, TWO THAT HAVE BEEN APPOINTED.
WHEN WAS THE OTHER PERSON APPOINTED? 'CAUSE I EXPECT THAT IT'S BEEN A WHILE.
I'M GONNA SAY MAYBE IT WAS, IT WAS...
IT WAS DURING THE, UM, THE BOARD TERM, UM, THE BEGINNING OF THE BOARD TERM OF THE NOMINATIONS WHEN WE GET SO MANY AT ONE TIME.
SO IT WAS - SO IN AUGUST? YEAH, IT WAS - YEAH.
WE'LL BRING YOU A BIG, HUGE STAFF.
AND SO BOTH OF THEM WERE ERRORS.
OKAY? THAT WAS CAUGHT AFTER THE FACT.
UM, BUT ONE WAS CAUGHT CLOSE ENOUGH TO WHERE WE, UM, LOOKED AT, AND AGAIN, LOOKED, AND THEN LOOKING CLOSELY AT THE ORDINANCE AND, AND THEN REALIZING IT'S, IT HAS THAT RESIDENCY SPECIFIC REQ - YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENT.
SO IT REALLY DID HAPPEN THAT WAY.
I THINK WHAT'S DIFFICULT FOR THIS IS, UH, YOU KNOW, WE'RE DEALING WITH KIDS, RIGHT, THAT ARE SERVING OUR CITY.
UM, BUT THEN, YOU KNOW, I GUESS MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, LIKE, HOW HAVE WE DEALT WITH THIS IN THE PAST IF THIS IS, IF SOMETHING LIKE THIS HAS HAPPENED? UM, HA- HAVE WE CHANGED THE ORDINANCE? OR ARE THEY
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ASKED NOT TO SERVE? WHAT DOES THAT, WHAT DOES, WHAT DOES THAT LOOK LIKE? SO I HAVEN'T DEALT WITH ANYTHING SPECIFIC LIKE THIS.UM, BUT IF AN INDIVIDUAL IS IDENTIFIED AS INELIGIBLE, WE WOULD REMOVE THEM.
I MEAN, Y'ALL HAVE BEEN SO THOROUGH.
BUT WE WOULDN'T, WE'RE NOT RECOMMENDING CHANGING.
IT'S, IT WAS REALLY, IT, IT HAPPENED THE WAY IT HAPPENED.
AND, UM, REALIZING, LOOKING AT ALL OF THE BOARDS AT ONE TIME THAT THIS HAD THIS, THIS, UH, RESTRICTION ON IT.
IT JUST, IT WAS JUST KIND OF IN THE PROCESS, PROCESSING THEM WITH THE UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE THAT RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT.
I REMEMBER WHEN I FIRST CAME ONTO COUNCIL, THERE WAS, UM, A PREVIOUS COUNCIL MEMBER, NOT THE ONE I WORKED FOR, BUT A PREVIOUS ONE HAD APPOINTED SOMEBODY THAT DIDN'T LIVE IN A SPECIFIC MMD AND NOBODY HAD EVER CAUGHT IT, RIGHT? I DID BECAUSE THEN WE WERE TRYING TO FIND SOMEBODY TO APPOINT AND I HAD TO PULL THE MAP AND, YOU KNOW, SEARCH.
AND SO I KNOW MISTAKES HAPPEN.
UM, AND, YOU KNOW, AND, AND SO I, IT SOUNDS LIKE THIS YOUTH, ONE OF THE YOUTH AT LEAST, IT HAD HAPPENED, YOU KNOW, A FEW MONTHS BEFORE.
UM, THIS IS A HARD ONE, I THINK JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE DEFINITELY DEALING WITH, WITH KIDS THAT ARE WANTING TO SERVE.
AND, UM, AND THIS IS THE ONLY COMMISSION THAT HAS THE RESIDENCY AS WELL.
ARE YOU ABLE TO GO BACK AND LOOK AT THE COUNCIL DISCUSSION AT THE TIME ON WHY THEY SET IT UP WITH A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT IF THAT WAS NOT THE NORM? WE DID.
I DID A SEARCH AND WE COULD NOT, UM, BECAUSE THE, THE ORDINANCES ARE DRAFTED IN WHAT, BETWEEN THE, AND I'M GUESSING, I KNOW WITH, BETWEEN THE ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AND MAYBE THE DEPARTMENT OR WHOEVER IS TRYING TO, UH, SET, UH, DEVELOP OR CREATE THAT PARTICULAR BOARD.
SO WE GET THOSE AFTER THE FACT.
SO WE LOOKED AT OUR RECORDS AND COULD NOT FIND WHY THAT WAS, UH, PLACED IN THE ORDINANCE.
WELL, CHAIR, I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT MORE BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS HAVING, HAVING A RESIDENCY REQUIREMENT, UM, BOTH OF BEING A DALLAS RESIDENT FOR AT LEAST SIX MONTHS, AS WELL AS WITHIN THE DISTRICT.
AND FOR AS MANY TIMES AS WE SIT AROUND THIS HORSESHOE AND WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBERS ESPOUSE THE UNIQUENESS OF THEIR AREA AND THE NEEDS OF THEIR AREA THAT ARE NOT BEING HEARD AT CITY HALL, I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT WAY FOR US TO HAVE RESIDENTS WHO CAN SHARE THAT IN THE COMMITTEES WHERE WORK IS HAPPENING.
AND WHETHER YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHATEVER AREA YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
AND SO, UM, I, I THINK THAT THIS NEEDS FURTHER, FURTHER EVALUATION.
UH, SO MADAM CITY SECRETARY, DO YOU NEED ANY DIRECTION OR...
WELL, BASED ON THE CONVERSATION HERE, THE ONLY, UM...
WE'RE NOT MOVING THE ORDINANCE FORWARD, UM, FOR THE DELETION BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA NEED TO GO BACK AND DO SOME MORE COMPREHENSIVE OR EXTENSIVE LOOK ON OUR OTHER BOARDS.
SO THAT MEANS THAT THAT, UM, QUALIFICATION IS STILL IN EFFECT.
AND SINCE IT'S STILL IN EFFECT, THOSE INDIVIDUALS ARE NOT ELIGIBLE TO SERVE AND WILL BE REMOVED.
AND, AND SO, I MEAN, I, YOU KNOW, I, I HAVE A, I GUESS A QUESTION, AND I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S...
YOU KNOW, I EVEN HESITATE TO, TO EVEN SPEAK ON THE ITEM, BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF...
SINCE WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THIS RIGHT NOW, I MEAN, IF THIS WERE TO COME TO A VOTE, WOULD I NEED TO RECUSE MYSELF BECAUSE O- ONE OF THOSE MEMBERS IS, IS MY MEMBER? I DON'T BELIEVE SO.
I HAVE TO GET WITH THE ATTORNEYS.
UM, WE'VE HAD OTHERS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBERS WHO'VE NOMINATED, UM, FAMILY MEMBERS BEFORE, AND THEY WERE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE ITEM.
WORK WITH THE ATTORNEYS ON THOSE EXCEPTIONS.
BUT I'M, BUT I'VE SEEN OTHERS WHERE THEY VOTED, THEY'VE NOMINATED A FAMILY MEMBER AND THEY WERE ABLE TO VOTE ON THE ITEM.
I MEAN, SO, SO I MEAN, I MEAN, IT'S NOT MY FAMILY MEM- MEMBER.
IT'S, IT'S JUST A RESIDENT OF THE CITY.
BUT SINCE IT'S MY RECOMMENDATION, IT WOULD AF - I GUESS, IN THEORY, AFFECT MY NOMINEE, AND SO THEREFORE WOULD I HAVE TO RECUSE? I WOULD HAVE TO FIND OUT.
I WOULD GET WITH THE ATTORNEYS.
WE WOULD HAVE TO PROBABLY RESEARCH IT SOME MORE.
UH, ANYONE FOR A FINAL ROUND? SEEING NONE.
LET'S GO AHEAD TO OUR NEXT ITEM, ITEM C.
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ALL RIGHT.WHO'S, WHO'S DOING ITEM C? OKAY.
UM, SO ITEM C, I WAS HOPING TO GET SOME, UH, FEEDBACK FROM THE, UH, CITY SECURITY.
SO, UH, WE'VE BEEN HERE SINCE, UH, 9:00 AM.
UH, WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE, UH, UH, MULTIPLE ROUNDS OF BEVERAGES, UH, FOR OUR, UH, HYDRATION AND
UM, AND SO I WANTED THIS ITEM TO BE BROUGHT UP.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER, EXCUSE ME, UM, RESIDENTS THAT, UH, SIT HERE ALL DAY LONG, UH, AND THEY'RE NOT ABLE TO CONSUME WATER INSIDE THE CHAMBER.
UM, AND TO MAKE IT MORE ACCOMMODATING AND TO ALLOW FOR RESIDENTS TO STAY IN THE CHAMBER, MAYBE THEIR ITEM IS COMING UP AND THEY REALLY NEED A DRINK OF WATER.
UM, WANTED TO SEE WHAT THIS COMMITTEE'S, UM, DESIRE WOULD BE TO MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR, UH, RESIDENTS TO BE ABLE TO, UH, CONSUME WATER INSIDE THE CHAMBER, WHETHER THAT MEANS LIMITING IT TO, UH, A WATER BOTTLE THAT'S CLEAR OR, UH, A THERMOS OR COFFEE.
UM, I THINK THOSE ARE ALL QUESTIONS THAT WE WANT TO, UH, THAT I WANNA HEAR FROM YOU ALL.
UH, OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE CARPET, WE HAVE OUR, OUR CHAIRS THAT ARE MADE OUT OF CLOTH.
UM, AND SO LOOKING, YOU KNOW, AT, AT THE, UH, OPTIONS FOR BEVERAGES AND FOOD IS JUST SOMETHING THAT I WANTED TO BRING FORWARD IN ORDER TO, UM, GIVE THOSE RESIDENTS AN OPPORTUNITY, UH, TO HAVE THE SAME PRIVILEGES THAT THIS COUNCIL HAS.
AND SO WITH THAT, I SEE CHAIR MENDELSON'S LIGHT ON.
WELL, I LOVE THAT YOU PUT THIS ITEM ON HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW IT WAS COMING AND, UM, I WAS DELIGHTED TO SEE IT.
I KNOW I HAVE SAT IN THOSE SEATS, UM, FOR MANY, MANY HOURS NEEDING WATER.
AND, UM, THE OTHER SIDE OF IT, UM, SITTING HERE, I DO ALWAYS HAVE A DRINK, TRYING TO GET MY WATER AND IT'S MYSELF.
UM, AND I DO FEEL BADLY FOR THE PEOPLE SITTING THERE.
THE CONCERN I HAVE ON THIS SIDE OF THIS ROOM IS SECURITY ISSUES OF SOMEBODY THROWING A WATER BOTTLE.
UM, GIVEN OUR CARPET, IT'S PRETTY BAD.
IT COULD PROBABLY ONLY BE IMPROVED BY SOMEBODY SPILLING SOMETHING.
UM, BUT I WOULD VERY MUCH LIKE TO SEE THIS POLICY CHANGE.
UM, I DON'T KNOW WHAT SECURITY WILL SAY ABOUT, UM, THEIR CONCERNS.
SO WITHOUT HAVING HEARD THAT, I WOULD SAY THERE SHOULD PROBABLY BE A LIMITATION ON THE NUMBER OF OUNCES, SO MAYBE ONLY A 16 OUNCE, UM, OR SMALLER.
UM, I THINK THAT'S PROBABLY TOO BIG.
UM, SOMETHING THAT HAS A LID SO THAT IT CAN AVOID SPILLS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE.
SOMETHING THAT IS NON-ALCOHOLIC, BUT I WOULDN'T RESTRICT IT TO WATER ONLY.
UM, I DO THINK THAT THE GOAL SHOULD BE FOR A CLEAN AND, UM, SAFE MEETING ENVIRONMENT.
YOU ALSO HAVE FOOD ON HERE, AND I WOULD SAY, AGAIN, WE HAVE PEOPLE...
I MEAN, YOU KNOW SOME OF THESE MEETINGS ARE 12 HOURS LONG.
UM, SO I'M FINE WITH PEOPLE BRINGING FOOD AS LONG AS IT'S NOT EXCESSIVE NOISE, STRONG ODORS, OR SIGNIFICANT CRUMBS, SO IT'S NOT DISRUPTIVE TO THIS MEETING.
UM, AND I THINK THAT WHATEVER IS DEVELOPED, WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT THE INDIVIDUAL MUST BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DISPOSING OF THEIR FOOD CONTAINERS OR WASTE.
BUT I WOULD ALSO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER MAYBE JUST A SIX-MONTH PILOT, AND THEN LET'S BRING IT BACK AND LOOK.
AND WE CAN SEE IF IT'S OUT OF CONTROL AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, YOU KNOW - SCHOOL CAFETERIA.
BUT, YOU KNOW, PLENTY OF TIMES, PEOPLE JUST NEED A GRANOLA BAR AND, AND, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING TO DRINK.
SO, I JUST HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT.
UM, AND PERHAPS MAYBE EVEN AS A REVENUE THING, MAYBE STARBUCKS WILL COME UP IN OUR FLAG ROOM AND START SELLING SOMETHING.
NO, I THINK THIS IS A GREAT IDEA.
I KNOW, UM, AS A STAFFER, WE HAD, UM, RESIDENTS THAT CAME THAT MAYBE HA - WERE, UM, HAD MEDICAL ISSUES, LIKE DIABETIC OR SOMETHING, AND THEY WERE HERE FOR A LOT OF HOURS.
AND SO, I THINK THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR RESIDENTS ARE COMFORTABLE, UM, ESPECIALLY
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WHEN THEY'RE HAVING TO SIT HERE SO MANY HOURS AND, AND GIVING THEM THEIR TIME IS, UM, SOMETHING WE NEED TO EXPLORE.AND I LIKE THE IDEA OF MAYBE A SIX-MONTH PILOT, UM, TO SEE HOW IT GOES.
UM, SO FOR OUR CHIEF OF STAFF, UM, I WOULD LIKE SECURITY, UH, TO COME BACK - UH-HUH.
UH, AT OUR NEXT MEETING WITH, UH, BEST PRACTICES MAYBE FROM OTHER CITIES, UM, AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT OPTION OF A, OF A PILOT PROGRAM.
YES, WE'LL, WE'LL MAKE CONTACT WITH CHIEF CHILDS.
I THINK HE WAS TRYING TO MAKE HIS WAY DOWN HERE, UH, BUT, UH, DIRECTOR, UH, DOMINGUEZ, UH, HAS INFORMATION THAT HE COULD SHARE BEST PRACTICES AT THE CAPITOL.
I KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WILL HELP, BUT HE'S ABLE TO KINDA SPEAK ABOUT SOME OF THE THINGS AT THE CAPITOL THAT THEY DO.
AND SO, CHAIR, THE ONLY OTHER THING I'D SAY WITH...
IS, UM, YOU KNOW, THERE'S A LOT OF MEMES ABOUT, "OH, I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS.
I'M GONNA BE EATING POPCORN," RIGHT? LIKE, I WOULD HATE TO SEE PEOPLE DOING SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THROWING POPCORN OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT, BUT I WOULD IMAGINE THAT ANY KIND OF BEHAVIOR LIKE THAT WOULD BE COVERED UNDER OUR REGULAR, UH, RULES OF DECORUM.
AND, UM, THE CAPITOL HAS WAY TOO MANY RESTRICTIONS ABOUT THIS ISSUE AS WELL, ABOUT BRINGING IN WATER, IN MY OPINION.
YES, ERIC DOMINGUEZ, DIRECTOR.
UM, SO YES, UH, PER THE HOUSE AND SENATE RULES, UM, BEVERAGES AND FOOD ARE NOT ALLOWED IN THE CHAMBERS.
HOWEVER, IN COMMITTEES, UH, THAT IS AT THE DISCRETION OF THE CHAIR.
AS YOU KNOW, WITH, UH, BEING AT THE HOUSE OR ON THE SENATE FLOOR, FOR SECURITY REASONS, TO PREVENT THE USE OF THROWING OF LIQUIDS AND/OR OBJECTS, UH, THOSE ARE STRICTLY PROHIBITED.
AND SO I CERTAINLY JUST WANTED TO NOTATE THAT.
YES, UH, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER MIDDLESON, I THINK YOU WERE JUST IN AUSTIN FOR OVER 12 HOURS AND PROBABLY NEEDED, UH, SOME WATER DURING THAT TIME.
DEFINITELY STEPPED INTO THE HALLWAY A COUPLE TIMES, YES.
UH, WITH THAT, UH, THE TIME IS 1:31 AND WE ARE ADJOURNED.