[Community Police Oversight Board on March 14, 2023.]
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I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
I GOT, I AM JASON RO, AND I'LL BE CARRIE JUNIOR.
CHAIRMAN OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD.
WE APPEAR TO HAVE A QUORUM ON OUR BOARD, SO LET'S GET STARTED.
THE MISSION OF THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD IS TO ENHANCE THE PUBLIC'S TRUST AND COMPLAINTS OF MISCONDUCT AGAINST DEPARTMENTAL EMPLOYEES ARE CONDUCTED, FAIR AND THOROUGHLY AND TRANSPARENT.
AND ENSURE CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENCE HAVE AN ACCESSIBLE MEANS TO THE COMPLAINT PROCESS, DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS.
ENSURE FAIR ACCEPTANCE AND PROCESSING OF EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINTS, REVIEW FACTS AND EVIDENCE OF A CRITICAL OR EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT AGAINST A CRITICAL INCIDENT OR EXTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE COMPLAINT AGAINST A POLICE OFFICER, DIRECT OR MONITOR OFFICER OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT TO INITIATE INDEPENDENT ADMINISTRATIVE INVESTIGATION.
ENGAGE IN COMMUNITY OUTREACH EXCEPT FROM MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WRITTEN COMPLAINTS, TAKES SWORN TESTIMONY FROM WITNESSES.
REQUEST THE CITY MANAGER TO REVIEW DISCIPLINARY ACTION TAKEN BY THE CHIEF OF POLICE AND RECOMMEND TO THE CITY MANAGER AND CHIEF OF POLICE IMPROVEMENTS TO THE DEPARTMENTAL PROCEDURES, PRACTICES, TRAINING, AND EARLY WARNING SYSTEMS. AND NOW WE'LL TALK ABOUT BOARD DECORUM.
DURING BOARD MEETINGS, MEMBERS AND THE PUBLIC SHALL PRESERVE ORDER AND DECORUM AND SHALL NEITHER BY CONVERSATION OR OTHERWISE DELAY OR INTERRUPT THE PROCEEDINGS, NOR REFUSE TO OBEY THE ORDERS OF THE CHAIR OR THE RULES OF THE BOARD.
ALL MEMBERS SHALL CORD THE UTMOST COURTESY TO EACH OTHER, TO CITY EMPLOYEES AND TO MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC APPEARING BEFORE THE BOARD AND START REFRAMING AT ALL TIMES FROM RUDE AND DEROGATORY REMARKS, REFLECTION AS TO INTEGRITY, ABUSE, SCUS AND STATEMENTS AS TO MOTIVES AND PERSONALITIES.
THIS ALSO APPLIES TO PUBLIC COMMENT AS WELL.
ON AND PER OUR ADOPT RULES, PROCEDURES, SPEAKERS WILL BE ALLOWED THREE MINUTES PER PERSON FOR SOME DISCRETION BY ME AS NEEDED BASED ON THE NUMBER OF SPEAKERS, THE TIME MAY BE ADJUSTED FROM ONE TO THREE MINUTES.
PUBLIC COMMENT WILL ALSO BE TAKEN NEAR THE END OF THE MEETING.
FOR THOSE WHO ARE NOT ABLE TO SPEAK AT THE BEGINNING, PLEASE UNDERSTAND OUR GOAL HERE IS TO BE PRODUCTIVE AND TO HAVE HELPED IN THE SPIRITED DIALOGUE.
TO DO SO, WE MUST, WE MUST ADHERE TO THE GUIDELINES THAT I MENTIONED, UM, UM, EARLIER, AND WE MUST BE RESPECTFUL IN HOW WE ENGAGE WITH ONE ANOTHER.
AND WITH THAT, UM, WE START WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
MR. DOLORES PHILLIPS ON THE LINE.
OKAY, MR. CHAIRMAN, SHE'S NOT ON THE LINE AS, AS ABSENT NOW.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FINAL FOR PUBLIC COMMENT? WE HAVE NO SIGN ON PUBLIC COMMENTS UNLESS THEY'RE IN THE CHAMBERS WITH THE NOW.
YEAH, I THINK THAT'S MR. DAVIS.
IS HE SIGNED UP? NO, HE WASN'T SURE IF HE WAS COMING.
UM, PLEASURE MEETING AND SPEAKING WITH YOU GUYS AGAIN.
I'M JUST, I GUESS GONNA REITERATE, UH, WHAT HAPPENED ESSENTIALLY ON THE 19TH OF SEPTEMBER, I WAS CALLED ABOUT A DISTURBANCE AT MY RESTAURANT IN DOWNTOWN ON CORINTH.
UH, PRIOR TO ME GETTING THERE, A POLICE OFFICER, ALLEGED POLICE OFFICER AT THE TIME, CALLED MY PHONE AND DEMANDED THAT I HURRY UP AND GET THERE.
HE SAID HE WAS TIRED OF WAITING, AND ESSENTIALLY WHEN HE CAME, THIS IS A RECORDING OF HIM CALLING AND DEMANDING THAT MY MOTHER, WHO WAS MY ASSISTANT AT THE TIME, SENT $1,200 TO THE CASH APP, UM, IN ORDER FOR US TO GET PEOPLE TO LEAVE OUR RESTAURANT FROM ROBBING US.
OFFICER WEISS DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
ARE YOU SUPPOSED TO BE SENDING $1,200 TO THE CASH APP? I AM, SIR.
YEAH, WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR ABOUT 30 MINUTES AND I HAD TO SET UP THE THINGS THAT I NEEDED TO SET UP, SO I COULDN'T DO IT BEFORE I CAN.
SO, YOU KNOW, HOW LONG YOU GOING IT'S GONNA TAKE? I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF DOING IT RIGHT NOW.
THE NEXT RECORDING THAT I'M GONNA PLAY REALLY QUICKLY IS, UH, HIS SERGEANT ACKNOWLEDGING THAT HE IS IN FACT A DALLAS POLICE OFFICER, BUT HE TELLS ME HE DOESN'T SEE ANY WRONGDOING
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ON THE BODY CAM FOOTAGE.THIS IS SERGEANT CRUZ CALLING YOU.
THIS CONDUCTED INVESTIGATION ON OFFICER WHITE.
UH, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT YOU HAD FILED A, A COMPLAINT AGAINST THE MEMBERS OF DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT, WHICH HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE CHAIN OF COMMAND.
UH, THE INVESTIGATION WAS UNABLE TO ESTABLISH A VIOLATION OF DEPARTMENT OF THE RULE WAS BASED OUT OF PREPONDERANCE OF EVIDENCE, AND THAT'S ME LOOKING AT ALL THE BODY CAMERA.
EVERYBODY THAT WAS INVOLVED IN THIS ISSUE, UH, THE INVESTIGATION RESULTS WILL BE MADE AVAILABLE TO THE DIRECTOR OF THE OFFICE OF COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT.
AND I DID WANT YOU TO NOTIFY, UH, NOTIFY YOU, SIR, THAT WE WILL BE GIVING, UH, OFFICER WE SOME ADDITIONAL TRAINING.
HE WILL GET SOME COACHING, UH, AND COUNSELING ON THIS, AND HOW TO HANDLE BETTER AN ISSUE IN THE FUTURE.
I'LL BE UP A GOOD AFTERNOON, SIR.
YEAH, SO I HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO GET ANY JUSTICE IN THIS CASE SO FAR.
AND AS A MATTER OF FACT, THE DAY THAT I REPORTED THIS OFFICER SEVEN MINUTES AFTER LEAVING THE BUILDING, UH, FROM REPORTING IT, I WAS ARRESTED BY SEVEN COPS WHO SIMULTANEOUSLY PULLED ME OVER FOR AN ALLEGED TURN SIGNAL VIOLATION.
AND, UM, SINCE THEN, THREE OR FOUR OFFICERS HAVE CAME TO MY PLACE OF BUSINESS, THREATENED TO ARREST ME, AND I WAS JUST MADE AWARE AS OF LAST WEEK, ONE OF THOSE OFFICERS IS GONNA BE INDICTED FOR TURNING HIS BODY CAM FOOTAGE OFF AND THREATENING TO TAKE ME TO JAIL ONLY BECAUSE I HAD ANOTHER VIDEO IN MY PHONE THAT I COULD PLAY.
BUT THE COP THAT TOOK MONEY FROM MY FAMILY AND MY MINISTRY AND MY ESTABLISHMENT, HE APPARENTLY DIDN'T DO ANYTHING WRONG, EXTORTING MONEY FROM US.
HAS, UM, DIRECTOR MCLAREN, SOMEONE FROM THE OFFICER, COMMUNITY POLICE OFFICER, HAVE THEY GOTTEN BACK WITH YOU? I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH KEVIN WILLIAMS, WHO'S BEEN VERY DILIGENT AS FAR AS TRYING TO GET THIS MATTER BROUGHT TO THE FOREFRONT.
BUT I MEAN, I HAVEN'T SEEN OR HEARD OF ANY FORM OF RESTITUTION THERE.
I I DON'T, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING AT THIS POINT.
I'M JUST WAITING, TRYING TO GET SOME JUSTICE AGAIN.
IS IT OKAY TO ASK A QUESTION HERE? NOT IN PUBLIC COMMENT, BUT I MEAN, I CAN.
WHAT, WHAT, WHAT IF YOU HAVE ONE, I CAN ASK.
UH, DIRECTOR, DO YOU HAVE ANY, ANY UPDATES ON, OKAY.
THE POLICE DEPARTMENT HAS A POLICY WHERE THEY WILL NOT DO AN INVESTIGATION ON A THIRD PARTY COMPLAINT.
WHEN MR. DAVIS FIRST FILED IT, IT WAS ABOUT HIS MOTHER.
SO WHEN WE REALIZED THAT HE WAS ACTUALLY THERE AS WELL, THAT HE WAS A PART OF, AND WE'VE NOW ASKED HIM TO REFILE THE COMPLAINT, AND SO THAT NOW THE COMPLAINT CAN GO IN HIS NAME.
BUT ORIGINALLY IT WAS NOT INVESTIGATED BECAUSE IT WAS A THIRD PARTY COMPLAINT ABOUT THE MOTHER THAT YOU HEAR ON THE RECORDING.
WE TOLD HIM TO REFILE IT TO MAKE SURE IT'S VERY CLEAR THAT HE WAS THERE.
IT WAS HIS PHONE AND THINGS THAT ARE BEING USED.
SO WE WILL BE REVIEWING HIS COMPLAINT THIS, THIS WEEK.
AND I'VE ALREADY TOLD MR. DAVIS THAT IS HE'S NOT HAPPY WITH WHATEVER THE FINDINGS ARE.
HE WILL THEN BE ABLE TO HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COMPLETE AN APPEAL FORM AND BRING IT BEFORE THIS BODY.
UH, DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DIRECT OWNER MCCLARY? IS THERE A PARTICULAR TIMEFRAME THAT I COULD EXPECT TO MAYBE KNOW EITHER WAY HOW THIS GOES? WE'RE GONNA DISCUSS YOUR COMPLAINT TOMORROW, SO YOU CAN CALL US TOMORROW AFTERNOON AND WE CAN LET YOU KNOW WHAT THE RESULT WAS.
ONCE AGAIN, THANK YOU GUYS FOR YOUR TIME.
IS THERE ANYONE ELSE FOR, UM, PUBLIC COMMENT? CHAIRMAN, I HAVE NO ONE ELSE ON THE LINE HERE, UNLESS YOU HAVE A LIST.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES ON.
I'LL ASK EVERYONE TO REVIEW THE MINUTES, AND ONCE YOU HAVE REVIEWED THEM, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION.
WHY ARE YOU REVIEWING THE MINUTES? LET ME TAKE ROLL REAL QUICK.
JONATHAN MAY PRESENT DISTRICT THREE.
DISTRICT FOUR, LAUREN GILBERT SMITH.
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DISTRICT 10.NOW IF I CAN ASK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
DETECTIVE KITNER, DISTRICT 13.
IS THERE A SECOND? DISTRICT 11.
MOVE THE SECOND TO APPROVE THE MINUTES.
NEXT WE HAVE OUR FIRST ACTION ITEM CONVERSATION WITH DALLAS DEPUTY C MANAGER.
SHE, MR. WILLIAMS? MR. WILLIAMS, MR. TOBER IS NOT ON THE LINE, SO YOU CAN TAKE, SO YOU CAN TAKE DOWN THE PRESENTATION, PLEASE? YES, MA'AM.
BUT YOU CAN TEXT HER ASEM BOARD TWO C TWO C, BUT IT'S THE CHAIRS.
OH, MAKING A SUGGESTION IF HE WANTS FORWARD.
WE'LL, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND, UH, SKIP TO, TO QC.
UH, THIS IS REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE C P O B, NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023 MEETING.
CAUSE OF THE 2023 NACO ANNUAL CONFERENCE.
WE WILL MOVE DOWN TO ACTION ITEM TWO C.
REQUEST TO CHANGE THE DATE OF THE TWO, THE C P O B.
NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023 MEETING CAUSE OF 2023 NACO ANNUAL CONFERENCE AT THE FEBRUARY 14TH, 2023 MEETING.
UH, C P O B MEMBER DERE WADSWORTH ALERTED THE BOARD THAT, THAT THE NOVEMBER 14TH, 2023 MEETING IS SCHEDULED AT THE SAME TIME AS THE ANNUAL NACO CONFERENCE BECAUSE SOME C P O B MEMBERS AND O C P O O C P O STAFF WILL BE ATTENDING THE NACO CONFERENCE.
SHE ASKED IF WE COULD PLACE THIS ON THE AGENDA TO DISCUSS, CHANGE THE DATE TO NOVEMBER 23RD.
I AGREE TO PLACE IT ON THE AGENDA.
THE ALTERNATIVE DATES ARE NOVEMBER 7TH WITH THIS ELECTION DATE, NOVEMBER 21ST AND NOVEMBER 28TH.
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AND SO I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR A MOTION TO VOTE ON NOVEMBER 7TH.I'M GONNA, I'M GONNA GO DOWN THE LINE.
WE CAN VOTE FOR NO NOVEMBER 7TH.
SO I'M GONNA JUST GO DOWN THE LINE, GET A MOTION TO VOTE FOR NOVEMBER 7TH.
THAT FAILS, WILL GO TO NOVEMBER 28TH.
SO IF I CAN GET A MOTION TO VOTE FOR NOVEMBER 7TH.
AND SECOND TO VOTE ON NOVEMBER 7TH, BEING THE NOVEMBER C P O B BOARD MEETING.
LET'S DO A, LET'S DO A LET, WE'LL DO A ROLL CALL.
AND MS. CHAIRMAN, CAN YOU START WHO SECOND IT WHO MOVED? AND SECOND IT.
SO, UM, MS. STEINFELD MOVED IT.
WE'RE GONNA DO A ROLL CALL VOTE, UM, FOR NOVEMBER 7TH.
DISTRICT NUMBER TWO? NO, DISTRICT NUMBER THREE, WHICH IS ME.
IS IT, IS IT OKAY IF I ABTEEN? I DON'T ALREADY.
WE'VE GOT TWO OTHER CHOICES, BUT YOU HAVE TO VOTE
UM, ALL THE WORK FOR ME, SO I, I'LL, I'LL SAY YES.
SO THE NOVEMBER BOARD MEETING WILL BE ON NOVEMBER 7TH, ELECTION DAY.
ARE THERE ANY ACTUAL ELECTIONS THIS NOVEMBER? ALL RIGHT.
IT LOOKS LIKE, UM, MS. TOLBERT IS DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
UM, CAN YOU HEAR ME? DEPUTY CITY MANAGER? I CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME OKAY? YES, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
ARE YOU ABLE TO TURN YOUR OKAY.
WE WERE HAVING ALL KINDS OF ISSUES.
I THINK THE LINK GOT, UM, GOT CAUGHT UP IN OUR FIREWALL WITH THE CITY AND I'M ACTUALLY WORKING FROM HOME, SO WE COULDN'T GET INTO THE MEETING, BUT WE'RE HERE NOW.
SO DEPUTY CITY MANAGER TOBER IS GONNA TALK TO US ABOUT, UM, STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH.
ONE OF THE MANDATES, EXACTLY ONE OF THE MANDATES FOR, FOR, UH, OUR BOARD IS COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
AND SO AS A SECOND, AS A PART TWO TO OUR, TO OUR, UM, EXCUSE ME, AS A PART TWO TO OUR RETREAT, UH, WE HAVE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, TOBER SPEAKING TO US ON COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
UM, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, THE FLOOR IS ALL YOURS.
THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH, UH, CHAIR, I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE, UH, THIS EVENING.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, I WANNA THANK ALL OF YOU FOR
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THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO REALLY SUPPORT OUR EFFORTS TO NOT ONLY MAKE THE OVERSIGHT BOARD, UH, A PART OF THE COMMUNITY, BUT ALSO HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE AS STAFF AND ENSURING THAT WE'RE SPEAKING TO YOU, WE'RE SHARING INFORMATION WITH YOU SO THEN YOU CAN FULFILL YOUR ROLES, UH, AS MEMBERS OF THIS, UH, THIS GREAT BOARD.SO I'M EXCITED THIS EVENING AND TO BE ABLE TO ENGAGE WITH ALL OF YOU.
I DO BELIEVE THAT THE DIRECTION THAT YOU'VE HEADED AND, AND AND WHAT YOU'RE DOING, UH, REALLY DOES ENHANCE THE WORK THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE TO CONTINUE TO DO AS WE ENGAGE IN THIS COMMUNITY.
AND SO, I'M GOING TO GO THROUGH REALLY, I BELIEVE SOME ESSENTIALS FOR WHAT ENGAGEMENT MEANS TO THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THEN SHARE WITH YOU HOW I BELIEVE THAT THE WORK THAT YOU DO NOW, AND AS YOU CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD IN YOUR CHARGE WITH THIS BOARD, UH, THAT THAT ENGAGEMENT BECOMES EVEN STRONGER.
AND SO THE CHAIR INTRODUCED ME.
I'M ONE OF OUR DEPUTY CITY MANAGERS, AND I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF SERVING WITH, UM, THE, AS PART OF THE CITY MANAGER'S EXECUTIVE TEAM FOR THE DEPARTMENTS THAT I'M DIRECTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR.
THIS IS JUST TO TELL YOU A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
UH, THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT, WHICH COVERS DALLAS LOVEFIELD DALLAS EXECUTIVE, UH, AIRPORT, AS WELL AS OUR DOWNTOWN TELEPORT, ARE UNDER MY OVERSIGHT, UH, THE DALLAS WATER UTILITIES DEPARTMENT, WHICH IS THE FOURTH LARGEST UTILITY IN THE COUNTRY.
UM, UH, THAT GROUP, UH, WORKS DIRECTLY WITH ME.
UM, I'M ALSO OVER THE OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS, OUTREACH AND MARKETING, UH, HUMAN RESOURCES DEPARTMENT, WHICH COVERS ALL OF OUR 13 PLUS THOUSAND EMPLOYEES.
UH, THE OFFICE OF RISK MANAGEMENT, WHICH IS A NEW AREA THAT CAME INTO MY PORTFOLIO A LITTLE OVER A YEAR AGO.
I ALSO HAVE THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
THAT'S THE ONE DEPARTMENT THAT I CAN TELL YOU, UH, KEEPS ME UP MOST NIGHTS.
AND THEN OUR NEWLY CREATED SMALL BUSINESS CENTER, WHICH WAS, UH, IMPLEMENTED TO REALLY HELP US COMING OUT OF THE PANDEMIC OF HOW WE PAID GREATER ATTENTION TO HELPING ELEVATE OUR SMALL BUSINESSES.
SO THAT'S JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT I DO DAY IN AND DAY OUT.
UM, THE NEXT SLIDE, I REALLY WANNA JUMP RIGHT INTO, UH, THE OVERVIEW OF WHAT I'M GONNA SHARE.
UM, I'M GONNA REMIND YOU, BECAUSE I THINK MANY OF YOU'VE PROBABLY HEARD US TALK ABOUT OUR VALUES OF SERVICES.
UM, I'M GONNA GO INTO WHY WE BELIEVE ENGAGEMENT IS NOT ONLY IMPORTANT, BUT HOW WE HAVE TO ELEVATE IT IN EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
AND GO INTO THE STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT AND THE OUTREACH FRAMEWORK THAT WE MOST RECENTLY PRESENTED TO THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND THEN TALK ABOUT THE ENGAGEMENT GOALS THAT I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE, AND OPENED IT UP FOR QUESTIONS, UM, UH, FROM ALL OF YOU ON THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO, OUR VALUES OF SERVICE, THIS IS REALLY WHAT WE BEGAN TO DO UNDER THE NEW CITY MANAGER IN 2017.
WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT WHAT ARE THE GUIDING PRINCIPLES AND VALUES THAT WE REALLY WANT TO HAVE TO KINDA GUIDE US IN HOW WE, UH, ADDRESS SOME OF THE CHALLENGES, UH, FROM, FROM INTERNALLY, BUT ALSO WHAT DO PEOPLE NEED TO EXPECT FROM US AS CITI AS PUBLIC SERVANTS AND THE ROLE THAT WE PLAY.
AND SO WE ORIGINALLY STARTED WITH OUR FOUR E'S, WHICH WAS EQUITY, EMPATHY, ETHICS, AND EXCELLENCE.
AND THEN MOST RECENTLY WE ADDED OUR FIFTH E, WHICH IS ENGAGEMENT.
SO WHY IS ENGAGEMENT IMPORTANT? COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT? AND, AND, AND REALLY, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH, THEY BOTH GO HAND IN HAND, BUT THEY ARE CENTRAL TO HOW WE, WE ARE GOING TO REALLY ADDRESS A LOT OF THE SYSTEMIC INEQUITIES THAT WE BELIEVE, UM, HAS REALLY CAUSED US TO LOOK AT ISSUES, UH, ACROSS THE BOARD.
NO MATTER IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PUBLIC SAFETY, WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AT THE TABLE AND HAVE THOSE HONEST, OPEN CONVERSATIONS AND ENGAGE AT A LEVEL THAT WE'VE NEVER DONE BEFORE, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE ARE EXPECTING FROM US.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT IN NOT ONLY WHAT WE DO IN THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE, BUT THE THINGS THAT YOU DO AS MEMBERS OF THIS BOARD.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT IT IS INCUMBENT UPON THE BOARD TO TRU TO FOSTER TRUST.
UH, WE UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING THAT MUTUAL RESPECT AND AND UNDERSTANDING REALLY KIND OF GETS YOU STARTED WITH HOW YOU CAN BEGIN TO BREAK DOWN THOSE BARRIERS.
YOU CAN'T HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS TODAY.
AND THEN SIX MONTHS DOWN THE ROAD, THEN ENGAGEMENT IS NOT IMPORTANT.
IT HAS TO BE A PART OF EVERYTHING THAT WE DO.
AND SO WE CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT, AND WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT AS YOU GO FORWARD AS A BOARD, THAT THOSE ARE THE TYPES OF THINGS THAT YOU ARE BRINGING INTO YOUR WORK PLANS AND YOUR GOALS AS YOU ADDRESS THIS CRITICAL WORK.
SO, STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH.
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UNDERSTAND THAT ENHANCING THE PUBLIC'S TRUST IS SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO DO, BUT WE ARE APPROACHING IT WITH EQUITY IN MIND BECAUSE WE CLEARLY KNOW THAT THERE ARE SO MANY INEQUITIES THAT HAVE DIVIDED THIS COMMUNITY FOR SO LONG.AND SO OUR APPROACH IS LOOKING AT EVERYTHING THAT WE DO WITH THIS EQUITY, WITH THIS EQUITABLE LENS.
COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR A COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, WE KNOW HAS TO BE A PART OF THOSE GUIDING CONCEPTS THAT YOU LAY OUT AND HOW YOU'RE ENGAGING IN HOW YOU GO ABOUT THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THAT ALL OF THAT HAS TO BE INTENTIONAL.
SO THAT, AGAIN, THE TWO GO HAND IN HAND, BOTH ENGAGEMENT AND BOTH OUTREACH WITH OUTREACH.
SO I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE TERMS, BECAUSE I THINK THAT SOMETIMES PEOPLE CONFUSE ENGAGEMENT AS OUTREACH AND THEN THEY CONFUSE OUTREACH AS ENGAGEMENT.
BUT THERE ARE TWO VERY DISTINCT THINGS.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, ENGAGEMENT IS THE COLLABORATIVE PROCESS.
WHEN YOU'RE REALLY THINKING ABOUT ORGANIZATIONS, YOU TALK ABOUT INSTITUTIONS AND COMMUNITIES, THIS IS WHEN YOU'RE SITTING DOWN AND REALLY TALKING ABOUT POLICIES, PROGRAMS, AND PRACTICES THAT REALLY ARE INFLUENCING DECISIONS AND OUTCOMES.
THE ENGAGEMENT HAPPENS WHEN THOSE PARTIES CAN COME TO A TABLE AND THERE'S BIDIRECTIONAL ENGAGEMENT.
IT'S NOT ONE-SIDED, BUT ALL OF THOSE ENTITIES ARE WORKING TOGETHER TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT INFORMATION IS BEING SHARED, THAT RESOURCES ARE VERY CLEAR, AND THAT THAT EXPERTISE IS AT THE TABLE.
OUTREACH IS THAT ONE-SIDED ACTIVITY.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT OUTREACH, THIS IS WHAT WE PUSH OUT AND WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY WAITING FOR ANYBODY TO COME BACK AND RESPOND TO IT.
IT'S ABOUT AWARENESS AND IT'S ABOUT JUST SHARING INFORMATION, BUT OFTENTIMES IT DOESN'T GIVE YOU THAT OPPORTUNITY TO TRULY, TRULY ENGAGE.
AND THAT'S WHY THE ENGAGEMENT DEFINITION IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT.
I WANNA TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT BEST PRACTICES.
SO WE HAVE BEEN REALLY THINKING ABOUT THIS AS IT RELATES TO HOW DO WE, ON THE NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
WE HAVE REALLY BEEN THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS THE BEST WAY FOR US AS A CITY.
WE'RE BIG, WE'RE A LARGE ORGANIZATION.
A LOT OF OUR DEPARTMENTS HAVE SOME VERY NATURAL ENGAGEMENT PLATFORMS, AND SOME OF THEM DO NOT.
AND SO ONE OF THE WAYS THAT WE'VE BEEN THINKING ABOUT THIS IS WHAT'S WORKING? WHAT ARE THE BEST PRACTICES THAT WE SEE OUT THERE WHEN IT COMES TO HOW DO WE LOOK AT ENGAGEMENT ACROSS THE BOARD? AND SO REALLY THE BEST PRACTICES ARE IDENTIFYING SITUATIONS AND ISSUES, PROBLEMS. WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO SOLVE FOR DEVELOPING STRATEGIES? HOW DO YOU THEN IMPLEMENT THEN THOSE STRATEGIES TO BE THE MOST EFFECTIVE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT PARTICULAR CONSTITUENTS OR PEOPLE, AND THEN EVALUATE IT.
SO IN ORDER TO DO IT RIGHT, YOU CAN'T JUST IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM AND PUT THE STRATEGY IN PLACE AND BEGIN TO IMPLEMENT WITHOUT COMING BACK AND TRULY UNDERSTANDING WHETHER OR NOT IF WHAT YOU'RE PUTTING IN PLACE IS REALLY WORKING.
SO THIS LOOP HAS TO BE CONSISTENT.
IF IT'S GOING TO BE EFFECTIVE, IDENTIFY THE PROBLEM, WHAT ARE THE ISSUES, STRATEGIZE TO FIGURE OUT HOW DO YOU SOLVE THOSE, IMPLEMENT THOSE STRATEGIES.
AND THEN AGAIN, COMING BACK AND EVALUATING WHETHER OR NOT IF IT'S WORKING.
AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IDENTIFY IS THE BEST PRACTICES IN THE INDUSTRY.
ON THE NEXT SLIDE, IT REALLY JUST KIND OF TALKS ABOUT, WELL, HOW DO YOU GET TO UNDERSTANDING THE ISSUE? AND IT'S MAKING SURE THAT YOU ARE VERY CLEAR IN DEFINING WHAT THE ISSUE IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO RESOLVE.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS BOARD HAS TACKLED MANY ISSUES, WHETHER IT'S POLICIES, WHETHER IT'S, IT'S, IT'S THE UNWRITTEN RULES, WHETHER IT'S CONDUCT, WHETHER IT'S BEHAVIORS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO GO IN AND DETERMINE OUTCOMES AND WHAT THOSE OUTCOMES NEED TO BE.
THE BOTTOM LINE IS JUST MAKING SURE THAT YOU CLEARLY UNDERSTAND YOU CAN'T SOLVE A PROBLEM IF YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE.
THAT'S REALLY THE, THE BASIS OF IDENTIFYING WHAT THAT PROBLEM IS.
UH, THE NEXT, UM, SLIDE PLEASE.
IT'S IMPORTANT AS YOU GO THROUGH AND YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, UM, IDENTIFYING THE PROBLEM, REALLY UNDERSTANDING WHETHER OR NOT IF YOU NEED TO BE IN A SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE JUST INFORMING WHERE YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT IT AND YOU'RE NOT DOING ANYTHING, BUT MAKING PEOPLE AWARE OF WHAT IT IS.
UH, WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CONSULTING SIDE OF IT, IT'S REALLY MAKING SURE THAT YOU CLEARLY UNDERSTAND WHAT PROCESSES THAT NEED TO BE TAKEN IN ORDER TO GATHER INPUT AROUND THAT PROBLEM.
AND THEN INVOLVEMENT, OF COURSE, IS JUST THE WHOLE PUBLIC PARTICIPATION OF IT.
AND THEN THE COLLABORATING IS WHEN YOU REALLY, REALLY ARE SITTING DOWN AND YOU'RE IDENTIFYING NOT ONLY THE PEOPLE, BUT WHAT ARE THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU CURRENTLY HAVE WITH SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES THAT NEED TO BE CHANGED IN ORDER TO GET TO TRUE COLLABORATION.
AND AGAIN, AS YOU BEGIN TO STRATEGIZE AROUND HOW YOU ARE GOING TO ADDRESS THE PROBLEMS OR THE ISSUES THAT THAT
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ARE BEFORE THIS BOARD, IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTANDING WHO THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE.AND OFTENTIMES, STAKEHOLDERS CAN TALK WITH DIFFERENT VOICES.
SO YOU WANNA MAKE SURE THAT IT'S VERY CLEAR AS THIS BOARD IS A ATTACK, IT'S TACKLING ISSUES.
MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE MESSAGE.
WHAT IS IT THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO, UNDERSTANDING WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE, BECAUSE YOU WOULDN'T WANT ONE HALF OF THE BOARD TO BE TALKING ABOUT THE PROBLEM IN A DIFFERENT WAY, AND THEN SOMEBODY IS WORKING ON A SOLUTION.
AND THAT THE BOARD IS NOT TOGETHER ON WHAT IT IS THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO TACKLE.
SO YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT YOU'RE LEVERAGING YOUR COMMUNICATION AND YOU'RE LEVERAGING OPPORTUNITIES TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME BOARD WHEN YOU'RE TRYING TO STRATEGIZE AND TACKLE THOSE PROBLEMS. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
AND I WILL TELL YOU THAT IN MY PROFESSION, UM, AS PUBLIC, AS A PUBLIC SERVANT, ON THE ADMINISTRATION SIDE, WE'RE TYPICALLY THE ONES IMPLEMENTING AS THE BOARD, YOU'RE SETTING POLICY.
AND SO IMPLEMENTATION REALLY IS THE, IS THE DEVIL IN THE DETAIL BECAUSE YOU HAVE TO MAKE ABSOLUTELY SURE THAT THE KEY PEOPLE THAT NEED TO BE THE ONES TOUCHING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF, OF EXECUTING WHAT POLICY DIRECTION IS COMING FROM THE BOARD NEEDS TO REALLY BE DONE.
AND OFTENTIMES WE SEE THAT SOMETIMES IT'S BEST WHEN A THIRD PARTY COMES TO THE TABLE AND WORK AND SUPPORT THE STAFF.
AT THE END OF THE DAY, IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW WHAT THAT PROCESS IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE, UNDERSTANDING WHO THE STAKEHOLDERS ARE GOING TO BE AND HOW THAT IMPLEMENTATION IS GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
I TALKED A LITTLE BIT ABOUT EVALUATION A LITTLE WHILE AGO, BUT WE BELIEVE THAT IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT IN, IN, IN ORDER TO REALLY BE ABLE TO SAY IF YOU'VE ACCOMPLISHED SOMETHING, YOU GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT THE OUTCOMES TIE BACK TO WHAT IT IS THAT YOU WERE TRYING TO SOLVE AND MAKING SURE THAT THAT WHY HAS BEEN TRULY ANSWERED WITH WHATEVER APPROACH THAT YOU TAKE.
AND OFTENTIMES THAT'S WHERE I BELIEVE WE, WE KIND OF MISS THE VOTE BECAUSE WE'LL GET GOING, WE'LL IMPLEMENT, AND THEN WE FORGET TO COME BACK AND SEE WHETHER OR NOT WHAT WE'VE IMPLEMENTED IS TRULY SOLVING PROBLEMS AND IS REALLY ADDRESSING THE ISSUES THAT YOU'RE TRYING TO SOLVE IN THE FIRST PLACE.
SO THE EVALUATION PROCESS IS CLEARLY IMPORTANT, AND AS A CITY, WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING A BETTER JOB IN HOW TO, HOW WE EVALUATE OUR PROGRAMS, OUR INITIATIVES, OUR INITIATIVES, AS WELL AS THE NEW THINGS THAT COME FROM THE VARIOUS BOARDS THAT SIT AROUND THE TABLE AND GIVE ADVICE AND, AND GUIDANCE TO STAFF.
I WILL TELL YOU THAT THROUGHOUT OUR APPROACH AND HOW WE ARE LOOKING AT ENGAGEMENT, AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT THING, UH, FOR THIS BOARD, UH, UH, CHAIR, IS TO REMEMBER THE ACCESSIBILITY.
WE THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO REACH US.
WE UNDERSTAND THAT YOU'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT YOUR PROCESS IS INCLUSIVE AND THAT PEOPLE CLEARLY FEEL THAT THEY CAN COME AND SHARE INFORMATION, SHARE THEIR CHALLENGES, SHARE THEIR FRUSTRATIONS, AND THERE'S GOING TO BE AN INCLUSIVE APPROACH OF GIVEN BY THIS BOARD.
I CAN'T TALK ENOUGH ABOUT THAT.
AND I KNOW THAT THIS IS SOMETHING THAT THIS BOARD HAS, HAS, HAS REALLY PUSHED AND WORKING WITH OUR STAFF, MAKING SURE THAT PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE'RE DOING AND HOW WE'RE DOING IT, AND THAT THERE'S NO GUESSING GAME TO IT.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE KNOW THAT ACCOUNTABILITY IS, HAS TO BE FACTORED IN EVERY STEP OF THE WAY.
AND THAT'S HOLDING US ACCOUNTABLE BECAUSE WE KNOW THE COMMUNITY IS GOING TO HOLD YOU ACCOUNTABLE AS WELL.
SO WE ARE REALLY THINKING ABOUT OUR WHOLE PROCESS FOR HOW WE CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD WITH OUR ENGAGEMENT.
UH, WE, WE ARE LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THIS FROM A PHASED APPROACH.
SOME DEPARTMENTS ARE DOING A REALLY, REALLY GOOD JOB IN ENGAGEMENT AND THERE ARE OTHERS THAT ARE STILL WALKING THROUGH THE BEST WAY TO ENGAGE.
AND WHETHER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT OUR LIBRARIES, OUR PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT, THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT AT THE CITY OF DALLAS IS, IS CHALLENGED WITH BEING BETTER, BETTER AND MORE EFFECTIVE IN HOW WE LOOK AT ENGAGEMENT.
SO PHASE ONE, IT'S BACK TO LET'S LEVEL SET INTERNALLY.
LET'S, LET'S TALK ABOUT THE THINGS THAT WE'RE NOT DOING WELL.
CAUSE SOMETIMES IT'S, IT GETS A LITTLE PAINFUL WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE NOT DOING WELL.
AND WE'VE GOTTA DO THAT AS AN ORGANIZATION.
WE WANNA LOOK AT PHASE TWO AND HOW WE BEGIN TO REFINE OUR PROCESSES.
AND THAT IS LOOKING AT WAYS THAT WE CAN BE MORE EFFECTIVE IN GETTING FEEDBACK AND THEN TAKING THAT FEEDBACK AND SHARING IT WITH THE COMMUNITY TO WHERE THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND THAT WE HEARD THEM, WE'RE LISTENING TO THEM AND WE'RE MOVING FORWARD WITH THEM IN MIND.
AND THIRDLY, CONTINUING THAT IMPLEMENTATION AND EVALUATION PROCESS THAT IS SO IMPORTANT IN HOW WE DO THIS WORK GOING FORWARD.
UM, JUST A LITTLE BIT, UH, FROM A COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT STANDPOINT, UH, I THINK AS YOU ALL CONTINUE YOUR WORK, UH, MACON VERY SURE THAT YOU'RE BEING CLEAR ABOUT YOUR GOALS AND YOUR OBJECTIVES AS YOU GET INTO GREATER OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.
WE THINK IT'S GOING TO BE CRITICAL, UH, CONTINUING THE TRUST BUILDING PROCESS.
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REALLY ALLOW THIS BOARD TO CONTINUE TO, TO, UM, TO LIVE UP TO THE EXPECTATIONS THAT THE CITY COUNCIL HAS HAS FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING.BUT AT THE SAME TIME, IT WILL ENCOURAGE A ADDITIONAL AND GREATER PARTICIPATION FROM THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY'RE INVOLVED IN A LOT OF THE PROCESSES THAT YOU WILL DEVELOP AS YOU CONTINUE TO MOVE FORWARD.
SO THAT KIND OF CONCLUDES AND I TALK FAST, BUT IT'S REALLY, YOU KNOW, IT, IT'S REALLY TO SHARE WITH YOU ALL.
WE UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT WE'VE GOTTA MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SUPPORTING YOU, GIVING YOU TOOLS, GIVING YOU RESOURCES, BUT AT THE EXACT SAME TIME, CLEARLY ALLOWING YOU TO BE A PART OF THE WORK THAT WE'RE DOING TO INCREASE OUR ENGAGEMENT, TRULY MAKE SURE THAT IT IS MEANINGFUL AND AT THE SAME TIME PEOPLE SEE RESULTS AND PEOPLE TRULY UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN THEY COME BEFORE YOU AND THEY SHARE THEIR FRUSTRATIONS, THAT YOU'VE GOT SYSTEMS AND PROCESSES IN PLACE THAT ARE GOING TO TRULY DEMONSTRATE YOUR COMMITMENT AND THE WORK THAT WE KNOW THAT ALL OF YOU ARE ARE COMMITTED TO AND THAT YOU'RE DOING.
AND WITH THAT, I'M GONNA STOP AND ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MAY HAVE.
THANK YOU ALSO VERY MUCH FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITH YOU THIS EVENING.
WELL, THANK YOU DEPUTY CITY MANAGER TOLBERT FOR, UH, GIVING US THIS TIME AND COMING TO SPEAK.
YOU HAVE REALLY, UH, GIVEN US A A LOT TO, TO DIGEST.
THIS IS, THIS IS A VERY WELCOME PRESENTATION AND I'LL OPEN IT UP TO THE BOARD FOR ANY QUESTIONS THAT THEY MAY HAVE FOR THE DEPUTY CITY MANAGER.
UM, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, I WANNA THANK YOU SO MUCH.
IT WAS CLEAR FROM YOUR POWERPOINT SLIDES THAT YOUR DEPARTMENT HAS PUT A LOT OF ENERGY AND EFFORT INTO, UM, ESPECIALLY DIFFERENTIATING, UM, THESE METHODS.
AND WE DO A LOT OF OUTREACH, BUT I'M NOT SO SURE WE'RE DOING THE COLLABORATIVE LISTENING PIECE.
AND THAT'S NOT ONLY OUR RESIDENTS AND CITIZENS OF CITY OF DALLAS, BUT THAT'S ALSO WITHIN THE CITY ORGANIZATION.
SO I'M WONDERING, MY FIRST QUESTION IS, UM, HAVE ALL THE DEPARTMENTS IN THE CITY AT LEAST BECOME FAMILIAR WITH ALL THESE PROCESSES AS YOU PRESENTED TO US? THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THAT QUESTION.
AND IT IS ABSOLUTELY ON POINT.
WE JUST RECENTLY LAID OUT THIS STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH FRAMEWORK TO ONE OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEES IN THE LAST TWO WEEKS.
AND I WILL TELL YOU WHY WE STARTED, UM, BACK LAST YEAR WHEN WE, WHEN WE, WHEN THE CITY MANAGER, UM, MADE THE DECISION THAT WE WERE GOING TO ADD THAT ENGAGEMENT AS ANOTHER ONE OF OUR VALUES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE REALIZED IS THAT WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY CONSISTENT PROCESSES FROM DEPARTMENT TO DEPARTMENT.
SO WE HAVE WORKED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS TO REALLY LAY THAT STRATEGY OUT.
AND FOR THE, TO DIRECTLY ANSWER YOUR QUESTION, WE ARE WORKING, I TALKED ABOUT THAT PHASE PROCESS.
WE ARE WORKING NOW TO ABSOLUTELY ENSURE THAT EACH OF OUR DEPARTMENTS UNDERSTAND THE ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY AND THEN THEY DEVELOP PLANS THAT ARE SPECIFIC TO THEIR INDIVIDUAL DEPARTMENTS THAT WILL ALLOW FOR THOSE GOALS AROUND OUR STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT TO THEN BE FRUITFUL.
SO I WILL TELL YOU THIS BOARD, YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY THE FIRST ONE TO HEAR THE PRESENTATION ABOUT STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT OUTSIDE OF THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE THAT WE JUST PRESENTED TO TWO WEEKS AGO.
SO CONSIDER YOURSELVES LUCKY BECAUSE WE REALLY ARE STARTING WITH YOU ALL AND WORKING OUR WAY THROUGH ALL OF THE OTHER BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS AND THE OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS.
SO YES AND NO, BUT WE'RE MOVING IN THAT DIRECTION TO WHERE ALL OF THEM WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LAY OUT WHAT THEIR PLANS ARE GOING TO BE.
WE'RE GONNA GRADE THEIR PAPERS AND MAKE SURE THAT THEY CLEARLY UNDERSTAND, EVEN THOUGH THE DEPARTMENTS ARE UNIQUE, WE WANNA UNIFIED STRATEGY.
SO OUR RESIDENTS, WHETHER THEY'RE TALKING TO THE PARK AND REC DEPARTMENT OR THEY'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH PUBLIC WORKS AND TRANSPORTATION, OR THEY'RE TRYING TO ENGAGE WITH THE OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS, THAT THE PROCESS IS CONSISTENT.
I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION, CHAIRMAN.
SO I REALLY, REALLY LIKED IT THAT, UH, WHEN YOU TALKED ABOUT DEFINING THE ISSUE THAT YOU BROUGHT UP THE TECHNIQUE OF THE FIVE WHY'S.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S USED A LOT IN, UM, CORPORATE AMERICA AND IN NOT-FOR-PROFIT.
SO I'M SO GLAD WE'RE GONNA USE IT IN THE PUBLIC SECTOR.
I THINK SOMETIMES WHEN PERSONS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN FINDING OUT THE ROOT CAUSE OF THE PROBLEM, ASK WHY
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REPEATEDLY IT'S SEEN AS, UM, ARGUMENTATIVE RATHER THAN INSTRUCTIONAL TO GET TO THE ROOT CAUSE, WHICH MIGHT BE SOMETHING PRETTY SIMPLE THAT CAN BE MODIFIED.SO MY QUESTION IS, WILL THIS ASPECT, ESPECIALLY BECAUSE WE DEAL WITH PUBLIC SAFETY AND SPECIFICALLY POLICE DEPARTMENT, WILL THIS ASPECT BE DISCUSSED WITH THEM, UM, SO THAT PERHAPS WE CAN COLLABORATE ON A BETTER LEVEL.
AND WHEN WE ASK A WHY QUESTION OF WHY IS IT DONE THAT WAY OR WHY WAS THAT RESPONDED THAT WAY? AND THEN WE SAY, OKAY, IF THAT'S WHAT'S USUAL IN CUSTOMARY, THEN WHY IS IT USUAL IN CUSTOMARY? IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN WE'RE DIGGING DEEPER TO TRY TO UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION, WE WANNA BE SEEN AS SOMEBODY WHO IS ON THEIR SIDE AND FINDING A SOLUTION.
SO I THINK THAT'S A BIG PART OF TRAINING OTHER DEPARTMENTS.
SO DO YOU HAVE ANY PLANS FOR THAT? ABSOLUTELY.
EVERY CITY, SINGLE CITY DEPARTMENT WILL BE WORKING, UM, WITH, UM, THIS IS ACTUALLY GOING TO BE LED BY OUR TIFA STAFF WHO REPORTS DIRECTLY TO THE CITY MANAGER.
GINA VINNO GENESIS IS ACTUALLY SPEARHEADING THE, THE ROLLOUT OF THE STRATEGIC ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH STRATEGY.
UM, AND SO WE'LL BE WORKING WITH EACH DEPARTMENT.
THERE WILL NOT BE A DEPARTMENT WHO WILL BE EXEMPT.
WE ARE GOING TO MAKE SURE THAT AS WE ROLL THIS OUT, BECAUSE OUR ENGAGEMENT VALUE IT IS FOR THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION AND NOT FOR JUST CERTAIN DEPARTMENTS.
SO YES, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO USE THIS FRAMEWORK AS EVERY OTHER DEPARTMENT DEVELOP THEIR ENGAGEMENT PLAN.
AND WHAT I WOULD SUBMIT TO THE CHAIR, UM, IS ONCE THEY'VE DEVELOPED THAT ENGAGEMENT PLAN THAT GOES ALONG WITH THIS, THIS LAID OUT STRATEGY CHAIR, I WOULD INVITE THEM TO PRESENT THEIR PLAN AND BE ABLE TO BE ABLE TO SHARE WITH THIS BOARD SINCE YOU TOUCH, UM, THAT DEPARTMENT SO CLOSELY, AN OPPORTUNITY TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT THEIR PLAN GOING FORWARD.
SO ABSOLUTELY, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION AND THAT'S REALLY WHAT THE CD MANAGER HAD IN MIND WHEN HE, WHEN HE ASKED US TO DEVELOP THIS STRATEGY IS SO EVERY SINGLE DEPARTMENT, AND WE KNOW THAT THEY'RE UNIQUE, BUT EVERY DEPARTMENT NEEDS TO BE ENGAGING ON THIS LEVEL.
AND, AND WE NEED TO CREATE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE THAT BIDIRECTIONAL FEEDBACK BECAUSE WE CAN'T BE THE BEST THAT WE CAN BE AS AN ORGANIZATION OR AS A CITY IF WE DON'T CREATE THAT ENVIRONMENT.
UM, MR. MAPLES, MR. MAPLES, TURN YOUR SOUND ON.
UH, THANK YOU MR. TOBER FOR, FOR WHAT YOU DO.
WE, UH, DEFINITELY APPRECIATE YOU COMING HERE AND SPEAKING WITH US.
UM, HOMELESSNESS IS ALSO SOMETHING THAT KEEPS ME AWAKE AT NIGHT.
UM, BEING AHEAD OF A NONPROFIT AND A VETERAN.
UM, THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT I KNOW WHO ARE IN SITUATIONS WHERE THEY ARE HOMELESS AND, UH, IT'S A TOUGH FIGHT TO, TO, UH, TO HELP THEM OUT.
BUT MY, MY MY QUESTION IS, IS, IS TWO PARTS.
WHAT, WHAT DO YOU THINK, WHY DO YOU THINK THERE IS A DOWNFALL, A FOLLOW UP AFTER IMPLEMENTATION? I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE IT'S STAFFING OR, YOU KNOW, MORE THINGS FILL UP TO PLATE AND WE FORGET TO GO BACK AND CHECK ON THINGS THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED.
AND, AND THE SECOND PART OF THAT IS, AS IT WAS STATED PREVIOUSLY, PLEASE, PLEASE BE SURE THAT YOU'RE OFF OFFICE IS IN INTENTIONAL WHEN WE'RE ASKING THE WHY.
BECAUSE THE WHY FOR US IS WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WE DON'T KNOW IN MOST CASES.
SO WE HAVE TO ASK THE WHY FOR UNDERSTANDING.
THANK, THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
UH, UM, COMMISSIONER MAPLES, UH, FOR YOUR COMMENTS.
AND WHAT I WILL TELL YOU IS THAT I THINK IT'S JUST BEEN, UM, IT, IT, IT'S BACK TO CULTURE.
AND TYPICALLY, AND, AND I WILL SAY THIS IS ACROSS THE BOARD, BECAUSE I'VE WORKED FOR MANY OF THE PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE'RE OFTEN PUSHED WITH RESOURCES TO WHERE WE WANNA GET IT IMPLEMENTED AND GO TO THE NEXT THING.
BUT OFTENTIMES WE CAN TAKE WHAT WE'VE DONE, KIND OF PUT OUR PENCIL THERE AND MAKE SURE WE'VE DONE IT RIGHT.
AND SO IT'S BACK TO MAKING SURE THAT OUR PERFORMANCE, OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS, ALL TIE BACK TO THE GOALS.
AND SO I JUST THINK IT'S HIS, I THINK IT'S HIS, I THINK IT'S HISTORICALLY, AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT YOU WILL FIND IN MOST BUREAUCRACIES,
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THAT YOU DON'T SPEND ENOUGH TIME AND ENOUGH ENERGY DOING THE EVALUATION SIDE OF IT.AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT'S MISSING.
SO WE'VE RECOGNIZED IT AS AN ORGANIZATION AND WE UNDERSTAND WHAT WE HAVE TO DO GOING FORWARD AND DO IT IN AN INTENTIONAL WAY TO WHERE WE'RE NOT THROWING MORE RESOURCES AT SOMETHING BEFORE WE REALLY DETERMINE IF WHAT WE'RE DOING IS WORKING.
AND SO I BELIEVE THAT WHAT YOU WILL SEE AS WE GO FORWARD INTO THE BUDGET, AS WE GO INTO OUR PLANNING FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, AND NOT JUST FOR THIS DEPARTMENT, BUT FOR ALL OF OUR DEPARTMENTS, TRULY UNDERSTANDING IF WHAT WE'VE PUT OUR MONEY INTO, WHAT YOU ARE PAYING FOR AS A COMMUNITY, AS RESIDENTS OF DALLAS, IF IT'S NOT WORKING, THEN WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THAT ANYMORE.
AND WE OUGHT TO BE FINDING THOSE SOLUTIONS THAT ARE WORKING.
SO HOMELESS IS ONE OF THOSE EXAMPLES WHERE WE HAD REALLY RECOGNIZED THAT CONTINUING TO BUILD MORE SHELTERS WAS NOT THE ANSWER.
WE HAVE SHELTERS THAT ARE OVERFLOWED AND WE STILL HAVE NO HOUSING TO MOVE PEOPLE INTO BEYOND SHELTER.
SO WE'RE CHANGING OUR WAY OF THINKING ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS THE PROBLEM TO NOW GOING INTO SITUATIONS WHERE THERE'S MORE SUITABLE HOUSING FOR THE PEOPLE THAT DON'T NECESSARILY NEED TO BE IN A SHELTER ENVIRONMENT.
SO THE THINKING IS CHANGING, AND I BELIEVE YOU'RE GOING TO SEE MORE OF THAT, NOT ONLY AS IT RELATES TO THIS AREA, THIS PARTICULAR DEPARTMENT, BUT AS WE GO FORWARD THROUGHOUT THE ENTIRE ORGANIZATION.
BUT THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION CHAIR.
I HAVE TIME FOR PROBABLY ONE MORE QUESTION.
I HAD A HARD STOP AT SIX 30 AND I APOLOGIZE.
DO WE HAVE, UH, ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS AS IT RELATES TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND OUTREACH SPECIFIC TO THE BOARD? OKAY.
WELL, FIRST OF ALL, UH, DEPUTY CITY MANAGER, I MUST SAY, I WON'T APOLOGIZE FOR HAVING YOU WORK OVERTIME TODAY, BUT WHEN I WAS THINKING OF SOMEONE TO, TO, UH, TO PRESENT TO US, YOU WERE THE ONLY PERSON THAT I WANTED TO SPEAK.
I KNOW YOU HAVE A BUSY SCHEDULE AND I APPRECIATE YOU MAKING TIME FOR US THIS EVENING.
NOT, NOT EVER TOO BUSY FOR YOU CHAIR.
AND THIS BOARD IS VERY DEAR TO ME AND OUR CITY MANAGER.
AND SO WHAT I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO DO IS, UM, SHARE THE SLIDE DECK.
I THINK THAT WE, WE WERE ABLE TO SHOW IT, BUT CHAIR, I WANNA BE ABLE TO, IF THERE IS A TIME GOING FORWARD AND YOU ALL REALLY WANNA SIT DOWN AND DEVELOP AN ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY FOR THIS BOARD, I WOULD LOVE TO BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND WORK WITH THE DIRECTOR AND BE ABLE TO HELP YOU MAP SOMETHING OUT THAT I THINK YOU WOULD BE VERY PLEASED WITH.
AND IT WILL ALLOW YOU TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE GOALS THAT YOU HAVE IN MAKING SURE THAT THOSE GOALS ARE BEING ACHIEVED.
SO I BELIEVE THAT THAT WILL BE KEY, IS THAT THIS BOARD NEEDS ITS OWN ENGAGEMENT STRATEGY.
ALL RIGHT? I WOULD LOVE THAT ON, WE WILL TALK MORE ABOUT THAT.
AND THANK YOU ALL SO VERY MUCH.
AGAIN, I APOLOGIZE FOR BEING TARDY AND, AND, AND JUST DOUBLE BOOK MYSELF TONIGHT.
BUT CHAIR MC, UH, MC UH, MCCLEARY WAS VERY KIND TO, UM, TO, TO LET ME KINDA SNEAK IN AND OUT.
BUT I APPRECIATE YOU ALL AND THANK YOU AGAIN FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO.
WE ARE, WE ARE APPRECIATIVE OF YOU, AND WE CANNOT DO WHAT WE DO WITHOUT YOU.
SO Y'ALL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL EVENING.
GOD BLESS AND HOPEFULLY SEE YOU GUYS AGAIN SOON.
OKAY, WE WILL, WE WILL MOVE ON TO ACTION ITEM B, UPDATE, C P O B ANNUAL REPORT.
UH, THAT WILL BE IN MYSELF AND THE DIRECTOR, MCCLARY.
SO, UH, AS YOU REMEMBER IN LAST MONTH'S MEETING, WE, WE AGREED ON THE CONTENT OF THE REPORT, BUT THERE WAS ONE QUESTION THAT REMAINED WHETHER, WHETHER, UM, MULTIPLE YEARS COULD BE WITHIN ONE REPORT.
AND SO DIRECTOR MCLAREN WAS ABLE TO TAKE THAT QUESTION BACK TO THE CITY AND DIRECTOR.
YOU HAVE AN ANSWER ON THAT, RIGHT? SO YOU ARE ABLE TO SUBMIT A MULTI-YEAR REPORT.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THE MULTI-YEAR REPORT? ALL RIGHT.
SO THE, UH, AD HOC REPORT SUBCOMMITTEE ON WILL BE CONVENING A, A SECOND MEETING TO, TO REVIEW THAT INFORMATION.
I ALSO HAVE SOME INFORMATION THAT I NEED TO PROVIDE TO THE COMMITTEE, AND THAT'S KIND OF THE, I HAVE TO DO, UH,
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INTRODUCTION TO THE REPORT.AND SO I'M WORKING TO FINALIZE THAT.
MY PLAN WAS TO HAVE IT FINALIZED LAST WEEK, BUT I WAS BURIED UNDER WORK, SO I DIDN'T GET TO FINISH IT, BUT I, I PLAN ON GETTING IT FINISHED BY THE END OF THE WEEK TO GET OVER TO DIRECTOR MCLAREN TO REVIEW, AND THEN FOR THE SUBCOMMITTEE TO REVIEW AS WELL.
SO, UH, WE ALSO NEED TO TALK ABOUT THE, UM, THERE'S A PAGE OF ANNUAL REPORT, UH, THAT TALKS ABOUT OBJECTIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
UM, AND SO THIS TIME IS, UM, WHERE WE WOULD SPEND TALKING ABOUT THOSE FREE CONVERSATION.
I WILL TALK ABOUT WHAT I FEEL, UH, SHOULD BE AN OBJECTIVE.
AND FOR ME, I THINK COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS PROBABLY THE BIGGEST, UM, OBJECTIVE THAT WE NEED TO, TO FOCUS ON BECAUSE I THINK, UM, I THINK THE OUTREACH PIECE, I THINK WE, WE DO DECENT WITH THAT, BUT I THINK IT'S THAT ENGAGEMENT PIECE.
I DON'T, I DON'T SEE THAT BEING A STRENGTH FOR US JUST YET.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE WHERE I WOULD WANT TO FOCUS AN OBJECTIVE ONE, BUT I'M OPEN TO THE ROOM FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT THEY FEEL SHOULD BE SOME OBJECTIVES FOR THE BOARD FOR THIS YEAR.
ARE, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT OBJECTIVES FOR THE COMING YEAR OR WHAT WE'VE ACCOMPLISHED OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS? THE OBJECTIVES FOR THE, FOR THE UPCOMING YEAR, THEN WE, WE'LL TALK ABOUT THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
DOES ANYONE DISAGREE WITH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENTS BEING AN OBJECTIVE? I, FROM MY STANDPOINT, I, I THINK AN OBJECTIVE, AGAIN, WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WITH THE POLICE CHIEF AND OTHERS, IS GETTING FULL BUY-IN FROM ALL PARTICIPANTS IN THE PROCESS.
IN PARTICULAR, THE POLICE, UH, THE POLICE UNIONS, WHOEVER ELSE THAT MIGHT BE.
UM, I THINK WE CAN DO THAT WITH EDUCATION, SHOWING WHAT WE DO AND, AND DISMISSING THE BELIEF THAT WE ARE BIASED ONE WAY OR THE OTHER.
HOPEFULLY WE'LL GET THE REPUTATION OF BEING UMPIRES WHO CALL A VERY DEFINED STRIKE TONE, SO TO SPEAK.
SO THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO DO.
MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, I, I AGREE WITH WHAT DAVID SAID.
UM, I'M STILL NOT SURE WHAT OUR AUTHORITY IS IN THEORY AND IN PRACTICE.
AND IF ANYBODY SHARES THAT VIEW, I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO FOCUS ON FIGURING OUT WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING HERE.
WELL, I, I THINK THAT'S PART OF WHAT IS THE PROCESS, BECAUSE I, I THINK THERE'S PROBABLY MISCONCEPTION.
UM, AGAIN, I'LL FOCUS ON THE RANK AND FILE OF THE POLICE DEPARTMENT AS TO WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
PERHAPS SOME OF THEM THINK WE CAN DO MORE THAN WE CAN.
UM, AND THAT MAY BE PART OF THEIR CONCERN.
AND WHEN THEY REALIZE THAT WE'RE AN ADVISORY BOARD MORE THAN ANYTHING, AND WE'RE NOT CONDEMNING ANYBODY TO PRISON OR ANYTHING OF THAT NATURE, UM, HOPEFULLY THAT WILL BE PART OF THE PROCESS.
BUT I AGREE WITH WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.
I I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW WHAT WE'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING
AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS IS OUTTA BOUNDS, BUT I DON'T THINK IT WOULD HURT FOR US TO HAVE A MEETING TOGETHER WITH CHIEF GARCIA AND THE HEAD OF THE, THE UNION PRESIDENT THAT MIGHT MAKE CHIEF GARCIA LOSE HAIR.
BUT I THINK IT'S AN IMPORTANT THING TO DO BECAUSE I THINK, UM, TO SPEAK BLUNTLY, UH, I'VE GOTTEN THE IMPRESSION THAT CHIEF GARCIA REALLY DOES NOT WANT TO TAKE ON THE UNION AND REALLY HAMS, UH, WHAT'S THE EXPRESSION WHEN YOUR HANDS ARE TIED.
BUT, UM, I'D LIKE TO SEE US WORK TO FIX THAT.
SO, SO I'LL SAY THIS ONE, SINCE WE'VE NEVER PRESENTED, SINCE WE'VE NEVER PUBLISHED A REPORT, THE ONLY THING THAT ANYONE HAS TO GO ON WHEN IT COMES TO WHAT DOES THIS BOARD DO IS OUR WEBSITE.
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THAT WEBSITE IS NOT THE BEST WEBSITE IN THE WORLD.IT, IT TALKS ABOUT OUR DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES, BUT IT DOESN'T TALK ABOUT WHAT WE DO.
SO WE, WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR, SINCE 2000.
SO YOU ASKED FIVE PEOPLE ON THE STREET WHAT WE DO.
THEY'RE PROBABLY GONNA TELL YOU FIVE DIFFERENT THINGS.
SO, UH, I LIKE WHAT, UH, CHAIRMAN KITNER SAID, AND, AND KIND OF DISPELLING THE RUMORS AND, AND PUTTING IN WRITING WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO, WHAT IS THE, THE SCOPE OF OUR POWERS, WHAT WE CAN AND CAN'T DO.
AND SO I THINK THAT WOULD BE GREAT TO, TO BE A PART OF THE, I THINK TO TO BE HONEST, I, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD PROBABLY BE A SEPARATE SECTION AS OPPOSED, AS OPPOSED TO OBJECTIVE.
I THINK THAT WOULD BE A SEPARATE SECTION SECTION JUST TO DEFINE WHAT IT IS THAT WE DO, SO THAT THEY'LL HAVE THAT DEFINITIVE DEFINITION AND EVERY TIME THE NEXT REPORT COMES OUT, THAT REPORT WILL ALSO HAVE THAT, THAT VERBIAGE AS WELL UNTIL THAT DEFINITIVE ROLE CHANGES.
AND THEN THAT'LL BE ADJUSTED TO, TO HOW THAT CHANGE IS MADE.
WOULD IT, ALONG THOSE LINES, WOULD IT BE HELPFUL ALSO TO PUT TOGETHER WHAT WE DON'T DO TO DISPEL SOME COMMON MISCONCEPTIONS, ESPECIALLY AMONG THE RANK FILE, ESP, ESPECIALLY WHAT WE DON'T DO.
SO WE HAVE TO, IN ORDER TO DISPEL THE RUMORS, WE DO HAVE TO PUT WHAT IT IS THAT WE DON'T DO AS WELL, SO THAT, THAT MITIGATES THOSE RUMORS AS WELL.
SO, AND, AND TO THE EXTENT WE'RE SAYING WHAT WE DO, DO, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL WHEN APPROPRIATE TO GIVE EXAMPLES OF WHAT WE HAVE DONE.
IN OTHER WORDS, LIKE IF THERE'S BEEN SOME POLICY CHANGES THAT WE HAVE RECOMMENDED AND THEY'VE BEEN IMPLEMENTED TO SHOW THAT, OR YOU KNOW, JUST WHATEVER IT IS TO GIVE EXAMPLES TO SAY, HERE, HERE ARE THE THINGS WE DO, WHETHER IT BE SPECIFICS OR IN GENERAL.
AND I THINK THAT WILL BE HELPFUL, CUZ AGAIN, SOMETIMES READING THE ORDINANCE, THE, THE IMPLEMENTING DOCUMENTS, PEOPLE ARE GONNA INTERPRET THOSE THINGS DIFFERENT WAYS.
AND SO SOME OF THAT WILL BE LISTED.
UM, WE'LL, WE'LL LIST OUR ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
THAT'LL BE, THAT'LL BE, UH, A PORTION OF THE REPORT.
AND THEN WE'LL ALSO LIST ON, I DON'T HAVE THE, THE BREAKDOWN OF THE REPORT HERE, BUT WE'LL, WE'LL LIST THE ACCOMPLISHMENTS.
WE'LL ALSO LIST A LOT OF THE OTHER THINGS THAT WE'VE DONE AROUND COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND RIDE ALONGS, POLICY, UH, CHANGES, THINGS OF THAT NATURE, SIR.
ALL OF THAT WILL BE, UH, A PART OF THE REPORT.
SO ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS? DIRECT? I WAS GONNA SAY, IF YOU REFERRED TO YOUR FEBRUARY MATERIALS, THAT HAS EVERYTHING THAT'S SUPPOSED TO BE IN THE CONTENT.
SO IF YOU GO BACK AND LOOK AT YOUR FEBRUARY MATERIALS, UH, THAT WAS WHAT YOU ALL VOTED ON.
IT CAME FROM THE AD HOC SUBCOMMITTEE.
THERE ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE, WHAT'S GOING TO BE IN THE REPORT.
ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO ADDRESS BOARD MEMBER STEINFELD, JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS THERE'S MORE THAN ONE UNION.
SO THERE'S THE DALLAS POLICE ASSOCIATION, THEY'RE ACTUALLY NOT UNIONS, THEY'RE ACTUALLY ASSOCIATIONS.
SO I ALSO JUST WANTED TO CORRECT OUR LANGUAGE AROUND THAT.
WE DON'T HAVE UNIONS IN DALLAS.
AND THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT BECAUSE SOME CITIES HAVE UNIONS AND WE DON'T HAVE UNIONS, WE HAVE ASSOCIATIONS.
BUT THERE'S THE DALLAS POLICE UNION, THERE'S ALSO A LATINO UNION, THERE'S AN ASIAN UNION AND AN AFRICAN AMERICAN.
SO WHENEVER THE BOARD, OR IF THE BOARD EVER DECIDES, YOU PROBABLY MAY WANNA INVITE ALL OF THE HEADS OF THE UNIONS.
THERE'S NOT JUST ONE POLICE UNION IN THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND THEN THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER UNION JUST FOR EXECUTIVES.
SO PEOPLE THAT ARE LIEUTENANTS AND ABOVE UNION OR ASSOCIATION.
I'M SORRY, Y'ALL GOT ME THINKING, SAYING UNION, UM, THE ASSOCIATION.
AND I'M, I'M PLEASE, I'M LOOKING RIGHT AT HER.
SHE'S GONNA KILL ME CUZ I'M BLANKING ON THE NAME OF IT.
BUT, SO THERE'S SEVERAL, UM, ASSOCIATIONS.
I JUST WANTED TO JUST SAY THAT.
SO IN CASE YOU, YOU GUYS EVER WANNA INVITE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW THAT THERE'S MORE THAN ONE ASSOCIATION IN DALLAS.
AND MY CONCERN IS, UM, THE COMMENTS THAT WERE MADE, UM, PUBLICLY BY THE, I THOUGHT IT WAS A POLICE UNION PRESIDENT, MIKE, SOMEBODY, MR. MIKE, THAT WAS, UM, I CAN'T THINK THAT WAS SOMEWHAT DISPARAGING OF THE BOARD.
AND I THINK THAT MAYBE IF WE COULD HAVE A CONVERSATION, IT MIGHT BE IMPROVED.
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NOW ONE THING I WANT TO, TO, UM, WARN EVERYONE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO MAY HAVE A CONCEIVED NOTION OF, OF, UM, WHAT THE BOARD IS THAT MAY NOT NECESSARILY BE TRUE.UM, THERE MAY BE SOME THAT ARE SPEAKING TO A SPECIFIC AUDIENCE WHEN THEY SAY THOSE CERTAIN THINGS.
WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO FALL INTO, INTO, INTO THAT TRAP, MEANING THAT ONE PERSON SAYS SOMETHING.
THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT EVERYBODY ELSE FEELS THAT WAY.
I WOULD SAY ONE, AS A, AS A BOARD, WE MEET PUBLICLY, WE CAN INVITE ANY AND EVERYBODY TO OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
IF THEY DON'T, THEY DON'T, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO SCHEDULE A SPECIFIC MEETING WITH THEM, BUT WE CAN JUST INVITE THEM TO OUR, TO OUR BOARD MEETINGS.
NOW, WHAT I WOULD, UH, SUGGEST IS THAT BEFORE WE DO THAT, LET'S MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE HAS A COPY OF THE ENERGY REPORT IN THEIR HAND SO THAT THEY CAN SEE WHAT IT IS THAT WE'VE DONE, WHAT IT IS THAT WE'RE WORKING ON, AND WHAT IT IS THAT, THAT WE CAN'T DO BECAUSE THAT'S KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.
AND SO THAT WOULD BE MY, MY SUGGESTION.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? I, I JUST, OH, YES, DR.
I WAS ON THE ROAD AND I JUST MADE IT HOME.
UM, BUT, UH, THIS IS MY HUMBLE OPINION.
HE WAS THERE AND AWARE OF THE PLANNING WHEN THE ORDINANCE WAS WRITTEN.
HE WAS VEHEMENTLY AGAINST THE ESTABLISHMENT FOR GIVING US ANY ADDITIONAL POWER THAN WE HAD WHEN WE WERE JUST A REVIEW BOARD.
AND WE COULD STAND ON OUR HEADS AND WHISTLE DIXIE AND WOULD NOT CHANGE HIS OPINION.
NOW, NOW, BOARD MEMBERS, I JUST WANT TO, TO, TO BRING US BACK THE, THE TOPIC THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IS THE ANNUAL REPORT WHEN THE SUBJECT IS NOT POLICE UNIONS.
THE SUBJECT IS NOT MR. MATA, THE TOPIC OF THIS IS THE ANNUAL REPORT.
SO LET'S MAKE SURE THAT WE KEEP OUR COMMENTS FOCUSED ON THE ANNUAL REPORT.
ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS IN REGARDS TO THE ANNUAL REPORT? MR. CHAIRMAN? YES.
JUST ONE THING, AND I THINK I CAN SORT OF BRIDGE WHAT MS. GILBERT SMITH IS SAYING AND WHAT, WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.
UM, I, IT IS MY OPINION, AND I MAY BE IN THE MINORITY HERE, BUT I THINK THAT WHATEVER WE PUT IS OUR OBJECTIVES IN THE ANNUAL REPORT.
I THINK THEY NEED TO BE DIRECTED AT THE PUBLIC AND THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND AS FAR AS DISPELLING RUMORS OR MYTHS ABOUT WHAT THE BOARD CAN AND CAN'T DO, I THINK THEY SHOULD BE AIMED AT DISPELLING THOSE RUMORS FOR THE PUBLIC, THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS AND FOR THE CITY COUNCIL.
BECAUSE I'M LESS CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT D P D THINKS.
CAUSE I THINK IT IS OUR ROLE TO OVERSEE THEM.
AND IT IS OUR ROLE TO WORK FOR THE RESIDENTS OF DALLAS IN THE CITY COUNCIL.
AND, AND THAT IS THE PURPOSE OF THE, THE REPORT.
IT IS FOR THE PUBLIC IN THE CITY COUNCIL, THAT THAT'S THE SOLE AND THAT'S FOR, FOR, FOR THE ENTIRE PUBLIC.
THAT'S WHAT THE REPORT IS FOR.
ANY OTHER COMMENTS, QUESTIONS BEFORE WE MOVE ON? MR. VICE CLEAR? YOU'VE BEEN QUIET THERE.
YOU HAVE ANYTHING? I THINK YOU'RE ON MUTE, MR. VICE CHAIR.
YOU STILL ON MUTE? YOU'RE ON MUTE, SIR? MM-HMM.
I HAVE SO MANY WINDOWS OPEN
UM, NO, I I MEAN, I THINK IT'S, UM, YOU KNOW, GOING BACK TO THE ASSOCIATION DISCUSSION, YOU KNOW, IT'S IMPORTANT THAT IF WE'RE GONNA INVITE ONE, YOU KNOW, UH, ONE ASSOCIATION THAT WE INVITE THE OTHERS BECAUSE THEY'RE, THEY'RE GONNA HAVE DIFFERENT, DIFFERENT VIEWS, DIFFERENT CONCERNS.
UM, YOU KNOW, AND LEO AND, AND BPA, UH, DALLAS BPA ARE NOT GONNA HAVE PROBABLY,
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UH, UH, THE SAME, UM, CONCERNS THAT MAYBE, UH, DPA HAS.SO, UM, WE SHOULD DO THAT ALSO.
UM, I WOULD EXTEND THAT INTO WHENEVER WE'RE WORKING WITH OUR COMMUNITIES AND OTHER CITY, CITY PARTNERS AND STAKEHOLDERS LIKE THE COALITION, UM, JUST LIKE WHAT THE, UH, WHAT, UH, CHIEF GARCIA SAID DURING, UM, DURING OUR RETREAT OR WHAT HIS RECOMMENDATION WAS, AND I THINK WE, I THINK WE PRETTY MUCH AGREED WITH IT WAS, UM, UH, ENSURING THAT WE HAVE A, A BALANCED, UH, BALANCED INPUT TO THE BOARD AND TO THE O CPO.
SO WHATEVER WE INVITE THE COALITION OR TOP OR ANY OF THESE OTHER GROUPS, WE SHOULD BE INVITING THE OTHER, THE OTHER SIDE AS WELL.
AND I THINK THE CHIEF SPECIFICALLY MENTIONED SAFER DALLAS, UM, OR, UH, AND I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANY OTHER EQUIVALENTS, UH, TO TOP OUT THERE, BUT, UH, YOU KNOW, I THINK WE JUST NEED TO BE MINDFUL OF THAT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING, UH, THAT WE'RE NOT GETTING, UM, SILOED, UM, INPUT AND THAT WE'RE GETTING INPUT FROM EVERYONE.
UM, WITH THAT WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEFING ITEMS. THE FIRST BRIEFING ITEM IS ON THREE A AND THAT REPORT, D P D MONTHLY ARREST DATA.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD IN REGARDS TO THIS MONTH'S ARREST DATA? ALL RIGHT, NO QUESTIONS.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UH, REPORT ON THE C P O B WEBSITE, HEADSHOTS, EMAILS, AND BUSINESS CARDS.
UH, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY FLOORS, YOURS.
SO AT THE FEBRUARY MEETING, I'LL LET YOU ALL KNOW THAT THE, UH, C P O B WAS IN LINE TO GET YOUR, UH, WEBSITE UPDATED.
UH, YOU ACTUALLY DO HAVE A WEBSITE NOW.
UM, THE LINK IS THERE, SO YOU CAN GO AND CHECK IT OUT.
I'M GONNA ASK IF MR. WILLIAMS CAN BRING UP THE WEBSITE.
WE'LL GIVE YOU A PREVIEW OF IT NOW, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LINK AND CAN LOOK AT IT AT YOUR LEISURE.
UM, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE WEBSITE, THIS IS YOUR FRONT PACING PAGE.
UM, I'LL BE WORKING WITH THE CHAIR TO FIND OUT IF THERE'S ANY DIFFERENT LANGUAGE THAT HE WANTS UP HERE.
MOST OF THIS IS OBVIOUSLY PULLED FROM THE ORDINANCE IN TERMS OF YOUR FUNCTIONS, UM, AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
AND SO, AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE PAGE, IT SAYS, YOU KNOW ABOUT THE COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT BOARD, AND IT TALKS ALL ABOUT THE BOARD GIVES YOUR DUTIES, YOUR FUNCTIONS, ET CETERA.
UH, MR. WILLIAMS, IF YOU COULD GO TO THE NEXT TAB.
SO THERE'S GONNA BE A MEMBER'S TAB, AND THIS IS WHERE YOUR PHOTOGRAPHS WILL GO, RIGHT? IT JUST HAS YOUR NAMES.
SO I WILL BE WORKING TO GET HEAD SHOTS FROM EACH OF YOU.
AND THAT'S THE OTHER ITEM IN THIS MEMO.
IF YOU HAVE A HEADSHOT THAT YOU LIKE, PLEASE SEND IT TO ME, MAKE SURE IT'S HIGH RESOLUTION.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T HAVE ONE, I WILL WORK WITH THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT TO HAVE, UM, HEAD SHOTS DONE.
SO AS YOU CAN SEE RIGHT NOW, YOUR NAMES ARE THERE AND THEY WILL ALSO THEN HAVE YOUR, UM, PHOTOGRAPHS IN THE MEMBER SECTION IF WE ALREADY HAVE ONE.
DO WE NEED TO ONE? THAT'S WHY I SAID IF YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE, PLEASE SEND IT TO ME.
IF YOU, IF WE ALREADY SUBMITTED IT TO YOU, IF YOU ALREADY HAVE ONE, YOU SUBMIT IT TO ME.
I HAVE ALL YOUR HEADSHOTS, SO IF ANYBODY WANTS, SOME OF YOU ARE NEW TO THE BOARD SINCE WE'VE TAKEN HEADSHOT, SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, UM, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
AND SO I CAN MAKE ARRANGEMENTS FOR THE LAST TIME.
SOME PEOPLE WENT TO COMMUNICATIONS AND ACTUALLY HAD THE HEADSHOTS DONE, BUT SEVERAL OF YOU ARE NEW SINCE THAT TIME.
SO IF YOU DON'T HAVE ONE, THAT WOULD BE GREAT.
UM, MR. WILLIAMS, CAN YOU GO TO THE NEXT TAB? SO THIS IS GOING TO BE, UM, A LOT OF THIS IS STILL BEING UPDATED, SO THIS IS GONNA BE YOUR MEETINGS PAGE.
SO IT'S GOING TO ACTUALLY UPLOAD YOUR, WHEN YOUR MEETINGS ARE, IF YOU CAN HIT THE MEETINGS TAB.
MR. WILLIAMS, SOME OF THIS IS STILL BEING UPDATED.
WE, THEY LITERALLY JUST FINISHED IT.
IT'S STILL BEING UPDATED AS WE'RE SPEAKING.
MR. WILLIAMS. IT, IT HAS, UM, A SIGN IN WHERE YOU CAN UPDATE, UM, AND PUT IT IN YOUR PASSWORD TO GET TO THAT PARTICULAR, UM, OKAY.
SO YEAH, THAT ONE WILL BE UPDATED ONCE, UM, THEY'VE ASKED ME FOR ALL OF YOU ALL MEETING DATES, AND NOW THAT THEY HAVE YOUR MEETING
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DATES, IT'LL START TO UPLOAD AUTOMATICALLY, UM, TO THE WEBSITE.SO YOUR APRIL DATE WILL BE GOING UP, UM, ET CETERA.
I'M GOING TO STOP PUTTING STUFF ABOUT YOU ON OUR WEBPAGE.
WE'VE BEEN INSTRUCTED NOW THAT YOU HAVE YOUR OWN WEBPAGE THAT WE SHOULDN'T DO ANYTHING, BUT JUST SAY, SEE THIS WEBPAGE FOR THE BOARD.
SO ALL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOARD WILL BE ON THIS PAGE.
UM, THE, THAT'S, I THINK THAT'S ENOUGH FOR, UM, IF YOU WANNA HIT THE NEXT BUTTON, PLEASE.
SO, LIKE I SAID, YOU ALL HAVE THE LINK THERE, SO FOR THE SAKE OF TIME, SOME OF THESE MIGHT BE, UM, SIGN IN AREA SO YOU ALL CAN LOOK AT IT AT YOUR LEISURE.
AND, UM, BUT THAT'S, SO FAR YOUR, IT'S LIVE.
I'M GONNA HAVE A MEETING ACTUALLY ON THURSDAY ABOUT GETTING THE OTHER PARTS OF IT UPLOADED.
SO, UH, HOPEFULLY YOU ALL ARE HAPPY WITH THE, THE WAY THE WEBSITE IS LOOKING SO FAR.
ANYBODY HAS ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE WEBSITE, YOU CAN LET ME KNOW THAT.
UM, I'VE ALREADY TOUCHED THE PART ABOUT THE HEADSHOT.
UM, IF YOU'RE FINE WITH YOUR HEADSHOT, UM, JUST LET ME KNOW.
FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T HAVE ONE AND NEED ONE, I WILL SET UP, UM, TIME FOR YOU TO WORK WITH COMMUNICATIONS ALSO.
UM, SEVERAL OF YOU HAVE ASKED ABOUT EMAILS.
I DID CHECK WITH THE BOARD AND COMMISSION'S OFFICE, AND THEY'RE IN THE PROCESS OF GETTING EMAILS FOR ALL BOARD MEMBERS AND COMMISSIONERS.
SO THAT PROCESS HAS NOT STARTED YET.
IT'S GONNA START IN THE NEXT SEVERAL WEEKS.
SO YOU ALL WILL HAVE EMAIL ADDRESSES THAT YOU CAN USE.
I KNOW A LOT OF YOU SET UP LIKE GMAILS OR YAHOOS AND STUFF, AND I CAN TELL, OBVIOUSLY YOU SHOULD BE USING THOSE STILL GOING FORWARD, BUT THERE WILL BE A TIME WHERE I WILL COMMUNICATE WITH ALL OF YOU AND LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, YOU ALL CAN NOW GET YOUR CITI WEBSITE.
UH, I'M SELLING YOUR CITY EMAIL ADDRESS.
I'LL KEEP YOU GUYS UP TO DATE ON THAT PROCESS, SO THAT'S GONNA BE COMING SOON.
IF ANY OF YOU NEED BUSINESS CARDS, PLEASE LET ME KNOW.
AT THIS POINT, IT PROBABLY MAKES SENSE FOR YOU TO WAIT TO GET YOUR CITY EMAIL TO PUT ON THE BUSINESS CARDS.
UM, SO ONCE THAT PROCESS IS OVER, YOU CAN, UH, CONTACT ME AND I WILL, IF YOU WANT BUSINESS CARDS, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEM, SO IF YOU WANT THEM, I CAN GET THEM AND THEY'LL BE IN, UM, INCREMENTS OF EITHER TWO 50 OR 500.
AND SO THAT YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO, AS YOU'RE DOING YOUR COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND YOUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, WILL BE ABLE TO GIVE PEOPLE BUSINESS CARDS.
SO, UM, I WILL END THERE AND SEE IF ANYBODY HAS QUESTIONS ABOUT ANY OF THESE ITEMS. THE EMAIL, THE BUSINESS CARDS, THE HEADSHOT, OR THE WEBSITE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU MR. WILLIAMS. I, I JUST WENT ON THE, TRIED TO FIND THE WEBSITE, ALL THE, LIKE THE MEMBER INFORMATION IS OLD.
HAS THAT BEEN UPDATED? WHAT YOU JUST SAW RIGHT NOW IS WHAT'S UP THERE? OKAY, WELL, WHEN I TRIED TO FIND IT ON MY PHONE, IT WAS SENDING ME, IT WAS SHOWING A LIST THAT LOOKS LIKE THE ORIGINAL GROUP NOT UPDATED.
I'M MEETING WITH THEM ON THURSDAY AND WE WILL GET EVERYTHING UPDATED AND UP AND ROLLING.
UM, THEY'VE PULLED A LOT OF STUFF THAT I SENT THEM.
THEY MAY HAVE PULLED SOME STUFF FROM, FROM THE OLD LIST, BUT AS OF THURSDAY I WILL BE WORKING WITH THEM TO ACTUALLY GO IN AND MAKE CORRECTIONS FOR ANYTHING THAT NEEDS TO BE CORRECTED.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE BOARD? THANK YOU, DIRECTOR.
I THINK I'LL PROBABLY SCHEDULE TO GIVE ME A NEW HEADSHOT.
WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE UPDATE ON C P O B CHAIR AND O C P O DIRECTOR MULLEY MEETING WITH D P D CHIEF POLICE EDDIE GARCIA.
UH, THIS MONTH'S MEETING WE WERE NOT ABLE TO MEET, UH, UNFORTUNATELY, UM, KEITH GARCIA HAD TO GO AND TESTIFY DOWN IN AUSTIN AND AS A RESULT OF THAT, THE MEETING WILL BE RESCHEDULED FOR NEXT MONTH.
BUT YOU TALK ABOUT THE FEBRUARY MEETING WAS AFTER THIS MEETING, SO IF YOU WANNA GIVE THEM UPDATES ON THE FEBRUARY MEETING.
OH YEAH, WE DID MEET AFTER I, I FORGOT ABOUT THAT.
YEAH, SO WE, WE MET, UM, WE TALKED ABOUT A NUMBER TOPICS ON, UNFORTUNATELY I WAS, UM, ARRIVED TO THE MEETING LATE.
I KNOW DIRECTOR MCCLEARY AND CHIEF GARCIA HAD ALREADY KIND OF STARTED A CONVERSATION WHEN I WALKED IN DIRECTOR, YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THAT CONVERSATION THAT I WALKED IN ON.
WE'RE JUST STILL TRYING TO FIGURE OUT A WAY FOR, UM, THE OFFICE TO WEIGH IN BEFORE DISCIPLINE IS, UM, FINALIZED.
AS OF RIGHT NOW, WE DON'T GET TO WEIGH IN ON DISCIPLINE, WE JUST FOUND OUT AFTER THE FACT.
SO WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN WEIGH IN.
UM, THIS IS SOMETHING FOR THE BOARD TO THINK ABOUT AND WE DON'T HAVE TO OBVIOUSLY ADDRESS IT NOW, BUT IN OTHER CITIES, THE OVERSIGHT ACTUALLY IS INVOLVED IN THE DISCIPLINE.
I THINK WE SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE DISCIPLINE, UM, NOT NECESSARILY RECOMMENDING WHAT THE DISCIPLINE SHOULD BE, BUT IN OTHER JURISDICTIONS, THE
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BOARD AND THE OFFICE ACTUALLY SEES ALL OF THE REPORTS AND CAN ACTUALLY GIVE COMMENT AND STUFF BEFORE DISCIPLINE IS VETTED.UM, I THINK THAT'S A GREAT STEP FOR US, BUT THAT'S PROBABLY ASPIRATIONAL AND DOWN THE LINE WE DON'T HAVE THAT NOW, SO BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THAT, I'M TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS THAT WE CAN BE INVOLVED.
SO, UM, I THINK THAT WHAT THE DISCUSSION HAS BEEN, AND I NEED TO FOLLOW UP CUZ I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THESE EMAILS YET, IS THAT, UM, WHEN THE, WHEN THE, UM, COMMAND STAFF GET THE FINAL DRAFT, UM, FOR THEM TO SIGN OFF ON THE REVIEW, THAT I WOULD ALSO GET THAT DRAFT AND CAN WEIGH IN, UM, AND BE ABLE TO GIVE COMMENT BEFORE THE FINAL DECISION ULTIMATELY, WHICH IS CHIEF GARCIA'S IS ACTUALLY RENDERED.
SO, UM, I HAVEN'T SEEN ANY OF THOSE EMAILS YET, SO I NEED TO FOLLOW UP.
MAYBE THOSE OFFICERS HAVE BEEN RECOMMENDED FOR DISCIPLINE SINCE THE CHAIR AND I MET ON FEBRUARY 15TH, BUT I HAVEN'T GOTTEN ANY OF THOSE EMAILS.
AND SO THAT'S WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT.
IS THERE A WAY THAT WE CAN START TO WEIGH IN ON THE FRONT END RATHER THAN ALWAYS WAITING ON THE BACK END FOR SOMEBODY TO SAY, I DON'T LIKE MY RESULT, AND THEN BRING IT, BRING IT TO YOU ALL.
SO THAT'S, THAT WAS A DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD BEFORE THE CHAIR GOT THERE.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE, UH, FROM THE BOARD? WELL, UM, DIRECTOR, WHAT WAS CHIEF GARCIA'S RESPONSE OR, OR WAS THAT HIS, UH, INPUT? IN OTHER WORDS, WAS THERE ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT TOPIC OF WEIGHING IN? IT WAS RAISED BY HIS, UM, CHIEF OF STAFF, UH, ASSISTANT CHIEF, UH, MONIQUE, ALEC, AND HE WAS RIGHT THERE.
AND SO HE DIDN'T, HE DIDN'T VOICE ANY OPPOSITION TO IT.
I MEAN, I THINK THEY'RE CONCERNED ALL OF IT, WHICH IS, YOU KNOW, LEADS US ALWAYS BACK TO THESE CIRCLE OF QUESTIONS ABOUT STAFFING IS THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA WAIT FOR ME, RIGHT? SO, YOU KNOW, IF I HAVE A LOT ON MY PLATE AND SEVERAL COMING AT ONE TIME AND THEY'RE DUE, THEY'RE TURNAROUNDS ARE VERY QUICK ON THESE THAT I JUST HAVE TO KIND OF GET IN THERE.
SO I JUST SAID TO THEM, MAKE SURE I'M IN THE LOOP AND I CAN ANSWER THE ONES I CAN ANSWER AND I CAN'T ANSWER THE OTHER ONES.
SO, BUT HE WAS THERE AND HE DIDN'T VOICE THE OPPO OPPOSITION.
I THINK THEY JUST ALL WANTED TO, JUST HAD A CONCERN THAT, YOU KNOW, TO BE CLEAR THAT THEY'RE NOT GONNA NECESSARILY SLOW DOWN THE, THE COGS OF THE WHEEL SO THAT THE DIRECTOR CAN WEIGH IN, BUT HE WASN'T OPPOSED TO IT.
ANY, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE, THE BOARD? AND THERE WAS ANOTHER DISCUSSION SINCE WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DISCIPLINE, UM, IN AN UPCOMING MEETING, UM, CHIEF GARCIA IS LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING AND MEETING WITH YOU ALL.
HE SPOKE WITH THE CHAIR ABOUT THIS AS WELL.
UM, HE IS LOOKING FORWARD TO COMING WITH YOU AND, AND SHARING WITH YOU HIS RECORD OF DISCIPLINE.
I THINK THAT A LOT OF TIMES WE ONLY SEE THE OFFICERS THAT OBVIOUSLY MAKE THE NEWS THAT HAVE BEEN FIRED OR WHATEVER, BUT HE, UH, LET THE CHAIR KNOW AND MYSELF KNOW THAT HE WANTED YOU ALL TO SEE THE FULL BREATH.
SO HE'S PLANNING TO COME, I THINK IN ONE OF THE UPCOMING MEETINGS, HOPEFULLY EITHER APRIL OR MAY, AND ACTUALLY TALK TO YOU GUYS ABOUT ALL THE DISCIPLINE, UH, THAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO HE BROUGHT UP THAT CONVERSATION, THE CHAIR WELCOMED IT.
UM, AND SO HE WILL BE COMING HOPEFULLY IN THE NEXT MONTH OR TWO, UH, TO COME AND ACTUALLY GIVE A PRESENTATION TO THE BOARD ABOUT THE DISCIPLINE OF OFFICERS IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND, AND THIS HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT CHIEF GARCIA HAS, HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT, UM, FOR THE PAST FEW MONTHS.
SO THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HE'S DEFINITELY BEEN, BEEN WORKING ON AND PREPARING TO DELIVER TO THE BOARD AND THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S MAJOR ELISE WITH I D HI MAJOR ELISE, HOW ARE YOU DOING? HI.
I JUST WANTED TO FOLLOW UP REGARDING SOME OF THE INFORMATION THAT MS. MCCLEARY WAS UM, GIVING TO YOU.
ALL RIGHT, NOW WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT.
UH, I THINK THERE MIGHT EVEN BE AN EASIER WAY FOR MS. MCCLARY TO BE INVOLVED WITH THIS.
UH, WHAT WE'LL DO IS PROBABLY SOMEHOW BE ABLE TO NOTIFY HER, LIKE SHE SAID, ONCE THE INVESTIGATION IS FINALIZED AND THEN THE CHAIN IS COMING IN TO MAKE THEIR RECS.
UM, BECAUSE SHE HAS THE UNFETTERED ACCESS IN IA PRO, SHE WOULD BE ABLE TO ACTUALLY GO IN AND TAKE A LOOK AT THE FINAL PRODUCT THERE WITHOUT ACTUALLY HAVING TO COME HERE IF THAT'S NOT EASY FOR HER.
UM, SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I AM WORKING ON HERE INTERNALLY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE START GIVING THOSE NOTIFICATIONS TO HER.
UM, SO MS. MCCLEARY, I'M SORRY THAT I HAVEN'T HAD A CHANCE TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU REGARDING THAT, BUT YES MA'AM, I AM AWARE OF THAT.
UM, AND THEN AS FAR AS THE PRESENTATION FOR NEXT MONTH, AGAIN, I WON'T SPEAK FOR CHIEF GARCIA, BUT HE HAS MENTIONED THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT HE IS WANTING TO DO.
UM, I KNOW INTERNALLY WE'RE, WE'RE WORKING ON FINALIZING THE REPORT OR PRESENTATION SO THAT WE CAN HAVE THAT READY FOR YOUR NEXT BOARD MEETING.
I HOPE THAT PROVIDES SOME INFORMATION FOR YOU ALL.
DOES ANYONE HAVE A QUESTION FOR MAJOR ESE? THANK YOU.
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OKAY, WE WILL MOVE ON TO UPDATE ON THE STATUS OF INDEPENDENT INVESTIGATIONS REQUESTED BY C P O B, UH, DIRECTOR MCCLARY.SO DIAMOND ROSS IS STILL IN LITIGATION.
THAT'S THE ONLY ONE THAT YOU ALL HAVE REQUESTED.
UM, THE CHAIR HAD ALSO ASKED ME TO START LETTING YOU KNOW WHAT ELSE WE'RE WORKING ON IN THE OFFICE.
SO LAST MONTH I STARTED GIVING YOU OUR NUMBER.
SO RIGHT NOW MR. WILLIAMS AND I ARE WORKING ON 15 OTHER POTENTIAL INVESTIGATIONS.
THESE ARE ONES THAT WOULD BE OFFICE INITIATED.
UM, AND SO AS WE DECIDE TO ACTUALLY, UM, DO THOSE INVESTIGATIONS WHEN THEY'RE COMPLETED, WE'LL BE BRINGING THEM TO, UM, FORWARD TO THE BOARD.
SO JUST WANTED TO LET YOU ALL KNOW WHAT ELSE WAS ON HIS PLATE.
UH, ESPECIALLY SINCE DIAMOND ROSS IS COMPLETED.
YOU GUYS MIGHT BE SAYING, WELL, WHAT IS MR. WILLIAMS WORKING ON? SO, UH, HE HAS QUITE A FEW INVESTIGATIONS THAT HE IS, UH, LOOKING INTO.
UM, AND UH, WE WILL, AS THEY'RE GETTING COMPLETED, BRING START BRINGING 'EM TO THE BOARD.
ANY, ANY QUESTIONS FROM THE, FROM THE BOARD? AND THIS IS, UH, AND I KNOW THE BOARD, Y'ALL ARE LIKE MS. MCCLAR, DIRECTOR MCLAREN.
THIS IS ONE OF THE OTHER CONCERNS TOO.
I KNOW AT SOME POINT THE CHAIR HAS ASKED FOR THAT P THE POLICY SUBCOMMITTEE OF CHAIR, FREEMAN'S COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE ORDINANCE.
THIS IS ALSO ONE OF THE PROBLEMS, RIGHT? BECAUSE BY THE TIME YOU ALL GET TO LOOK AT DIAMOND ROSS, HOW MANY YEARS WILL HAVE GONE BY? SO ANY RECOMMENDATION TO THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL PROBABLY BE STILL ANY CORRECTIONS POTENTIALLY FOR THE OFFICERS WILL BE STILL FOR OFFICERS TO HEAR ABOUT POTENTIAL TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES SIX, FIVE, AND SIX YEARS AFTER THE F AND FOR THE DEPARTMENT.
AND SO THAT LINE IN THERE THAT SAYS ONCE LITIGATION HAS STARTED THAT YOU ALL CAN'T REVIEW IT AS VERY PROBLEMATIC.
UH, YOU DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THAT, THAT IN THERE.
OTHER CITIES DON'T HAVE THAT AND THEY DON'T HAVE IT FOR THIS SPECIFIC REASON.
LITIGATION OF THIS NATURE NORMALLY TAKES SEVERAL YEARS.
AND SO FOR YOU ALL TO NOW BE ABLE TO COME BACK AND FINALLY PRESENT THE FINDINGS OF DIAMOND ROSS, YOU KNOW, IS, IS REALLY NOT GONNA BE VERY HELPFUL BECAUSE OF THE TIME THAT HAS GONE BY.
SO IT MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD WANTS TO LOOK AT.
OBVIOUSLY THESE DECISIONS WILL BE CITY COUNCILS, UM, TO MAKE OR NOT MAKE, BUT THAT LANGUAGE IN THERE ABOUT WANTS A CASE BECAUSE EVERY, I MEAN, I THINK ANY OF US KNOW, EVEN IF THEY HIRE 1-800-BILLBOARD LAWYER, ANY FAMILY WHOSE LOVED ONE IS KILLED BY THE POLICE IS GONNA FILE A LAWSUIT.
AND SO THESE MAJOR CASES WHERE THERE'S A LOT OF LEARNING AND POTENTIAL THINGS ARE GOING TO BE JUST, YOU KNOW, YOU'RE NOT GONNA HAVE A CHANCE TO REALLY TOUCH 'EM FOR YEARS AT A TIME.
UM, AND SO IT'S JUST KIND OF UNFORTUNATE.
SO THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THE BOARD MAY WANNA THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF IF MAY MAYBE THEY WANT YOU WANNA BROACH THAT PARTICULAR LANGUAGE TO SEE IF IT MAKES SENSE TO TAKE IT OUT OR SUGGEST THAT IT'D BE TAKEN OUT OF THE ORDINANCE REGARDING LITIGATION.
WE, WE'LL MOVE ON TO, UM, E UPDATE ON O C P O POLICY REVIEW, PROTEST AND USE OF FORCE POLICY, USE OF FORCE POLICIES, DIRECTOR, MCCLEARY.
SO I TOLD YOU ALL, IF THE TIMELINE NEEDED TO BE ADJUSTED, I WOULD BRING IT TO YOU.
SO THE TIMELINE DOES NEED TO BE ADJUSTED.
IT'S JUST THE LUCK OF THE DRAW THAT THE LAW STUDENT THAT YOU HAD, UH, THAT YOU ALL MET IN JANUARY BECAUSE OF HIS CLASS SCHEDULE, ET CETERA, WAS NOT ABLE TO CONTINUE WITH US.
AND SO I REACHED OUT TO THE DIRECTOR OF EXPERIENTIAL LEARNING AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT LAST WEEK OR THE WEEK BEFORE WAS MIDTERMS. LAST WEEK WAS SPRING BREAK.
SO SHE HAS NOT BEEN ABLE TO GARNER ANY STUDENT SUPPORT.
UM, I HAVE A MEETING WITH HER THIS WEEK, BUT BECAUSE I KNOW OF THE URGENCY THE WEATHER'S IS, IS, UH, GETTING WARM, PEOPLE MAY WANNA GET OUT THERE.
UM, THE OTHER ALTERNATIVE, AND I LISTED IN HERE, IS FOR ME TO TRY TO, UH, GET SOME CONSULTANT HELP.
SO I ACTUALLY HAVE A MEETING WITH THE DIRECTOR OF EXPERIMENTAL LEARNING AT U N T, UH, THIS WEEKEND, I'M SORRY, NOT THIS WEEKEND, THIS WEEK.
AND TALK TO HER ABOUT HAS, NOW THAT THE STUDENTS ARE BACK, THEY JUST GOT BACK ON MONDAY FROM SPRING BREAK.
AND LIKE I SAID, THE WEEK BEFORE THAT WAS THEIR MIDTERMS, UH, TO SEE IF ANYBODY HAS SIGNED UP.
IF NOT, I HAVE STARTED TALKING TO A FEW PEOPLE THAT I KNOW THAT I THINK WOULD BE CAPABLE OF DOING THIS TYPE OF REVIEW, UM, ET CETERA.
AND SO, UM, SO I DID WANT YOU ALL TO KNOW WHAT WAS GOING ON WITH THAT.
BUT LIKE I SAID, THE STUDENTS DON'T WORK OUT.
I DO HAVE A PLAN B, UM, IN TERMS OF GETTING THIS DONE AND REVIEWED AND OUT TO THE BOARD.
SO I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW THAT DIRECT IS, IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN JUST GO AHEAD WITH THE, THE PLAN B BECAUSE IT'S, WE HAVE BEEN WAITING ON THIS REVIEW TO BEEN, BEEN COMPLETED SINCE 2000.
I KNOW WE, WE HAVE A NEW POLICE CHIEF THAT'S TAKEN OVER SINCE WE MADE THE REQUEST.
BUT CAN WE GO AHEAD WITH THE PLAN B? BECAUSE I THINK THAT THE, THE LAW STUDENT ROUTE, I THINK THAT ONE IS JUST NOT GONNA WORK.
I HAVE A MEETING THIS WEEK, CHAIR, THERE'S NO POINT.
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THIS WEEK.AND SO IF I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER ABOUT THIS WEEK, WE'RE ALREADY AT PLAN B.
SO I'D LIKE TO BE ABLE TO JUST PURSUE IT THE WAY THAT I THINK I NEED TO PURSUE IT.
AND THEN IF THAT DOESN'T WORK, CAUSE WE'RE JUST TALKING ABOUT ONE WEEK, I'M MEETING WITH HER ON THURSDAY.
SO GIVE ME LITERALLY TWO DAYS TO KNOW YES OR NO.
AND THEN WE'RE ALREADY INTO PLAN B AND I'VE ALREADY STARTED TALKING WITH SOME POTENTIAL CONSULTANTS.
NEXT IS OUR UPDATE ON O C P O COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES, DIRECTOR MCCLEARY.
SO IN THE MONTH OF FEBRUARY, THE OFFICE, UH, DID FOUR EVENTS.
SO IT'S HIGHLIGHTED IN YOUR MEMO.
SO WE HAD THE NIGHT OF COMMUNITY HEALING WITH DISTRICT THREE.
UH, YOU'LL SEE SOME PICTURES AND PHOTOGRAPHS FROM THERE.
I WAS REALLY EXCITED THAT WE WERE ABLE TO PARTNER WITH SEVERAL, UM, OTHER DEPARTMENTS, THE OFFICE OF EQUITY INCLUSION AS WELL AS COUNCILMAN THOMAS.
AND THEN EVEN THOUGH THEY DIDN'T OFFICIALLY SIGN ON, THAT WAS REALLY JUST BECAUSE OF THE TIMING.
OUR OFFICE OF INTEGRATED PUBLIC SAFETY SOLUTIONS, UM, C I T TEAM CAME OUT AND DID THE SESSION ON SECONDARY TRAUMA BREATHING AND ALL OF THAT.
SO IT WAS A REALLY WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY.
UM, AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT'S THE SAME DEPARTMENT THAT DOES RIGHT CARE AND OTHER THINGS.
SO WE HAVE PARTNERED WITH THEM BEFORE ON ISSUES AROUND POLICING.
SO I WAS REALLY EXCITED THAT, UM, THEY WERE ABLE TO COME OUT AND PARTNER WITH US.
THIS WAS REALLY GREAT BECAUSE THIS WAS, UM, WE HAD TWO POLICE UNIONS THAT SIGNED ON TO THIS EVENT, UM, THE NATIONAL BLACK POLICE ASSOCIATION AS WELL AS THE BLACK POLICE ASSOCIATION.
AND SO THEY CAME OUT, THEY ACTUALLY HELPED FACILITATE SOME OF THE GROUPS.
AND SO I THINK IT WAS A GOOD MIXTURE OF COMMUNITY AS WELL AS THE POLICE.
I KNOW THAT IT WAS SOME KIND, IT WAS KIND OF CONTROVERSIAL CAUSE THIS WAS VERY CLOSE TO MR. NICHOLS, UM, THE RELEASE OF THE VIDEO.
AND SO THERE WERE SEVERAL COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT FELT LIKE, WHY DO YOU HAVE THE POLICE IN THE ROOM? THAT SHOULD JUST BE OUR SPACE.
AND ONE OF THE THINGS I ALWAYS TRY TO REMIND PEOPLE IS THAT AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE POLICE ARE PART OF THE COMMUNITY AND WE'RE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO MOVE THINGS FORWARD IN A POSITIVE WAY WITHOUT HAVING HOPEFULLY THEM THERE HELPING WITH THE SOLUTION.
SO WE DID TAKE SOME HEAT FROM THAT, FROM SOME COMMUNITY MEMBERS, BUT I THINK AT THE END OF THE DAY, HAVING POLICE DEPARTMENT, HAVING POLICE OFFICER PARTICIPATION, I THINK WAS HELPFUL RATHER THAN NOT HELPFUL.
UM, THERE WAS A LOT OF MEDIA COVERAGE ABOUT THIS EVENT.
I JUST GAVE YOU ALL ONE LINK, BUT IF YOU LITERALLY JUST GOOGLE THAT DATE, WE HAD A LOT OF, UM, PRESS COVERAGE AROUND THAT.
SO THE OFFICE AND THE BOARD WERE HIGHLIGHTED IN THAT THE NEXT THING WAS FEBRUARY 19TH, WE DID THE CANDLELIGHT VIGIL FOR PEACE, UNITY AND HEALING.
UM, IT WAS, UM, INTERDENOMINATIONAL MULTI-FAITH.
AND SO WE HAD A RABBI THAT CAME OUT.
WE HAD SEVERAL CHRISTIAN LEADERS THAT COME OUTTA OUR IMAM.
I WAS SO SAD HE GOT SICK THE DAY OF AND COULDN'T MAKE IT.
SO, UM, WE DIDN'T HAVE VISUALLY, I CAN'T SAY NOBODY THERE WAS, UM, MUSLIM, BUT WE DID NOT HAVE VISUAL REPRESENTATION WITH THE IMAM BEING THERE.
BUT, UM, IT WAS VERY, UH, ALSO VERY WELL ATTENDED.
EVEN ONE OF OUR COUNCIL PEOPLE CAME OUT, UH, CHAIR, UH, CHAIR KITNER, YOUR COUNCIL PERSON CAME OUT.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY NICE TO HAVE COUNCIL REPRESENTATION AND OUR OWN, UH, LAUREN GILBERT SMITH, DR.
SMITH, UH, GILBERT SMITH SPOKE, UH, UH, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES WAS ALSO IN ATTENDANCE AND REALLY WAS HELPING, UH, WITH CROWD AND EVERYTHING.
SO I WAS REALLY EXCITED THAT SOME OF OUR BOARD MEMBERS CAME OUT.
GILBERT SMITH ALSO LIFTED UP A PRAYER ON BEHALF OF POLICE OVERSIGHT.
AND SO I WAS REALLY HAPPY ABOUT THAT EVENT.
UM, I'VE TALKED TO SEVERAL FAITH LEADERS AND THEY REALLY WANT TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD DO SOMETHING BIGGER AND BETTER.
AND SO, YOU KNOW, WE'RE HOPING TO MAYBE PLAN SOMETHING THIS SPRING, UM, WHERE WE CAN GET MORE CONGREGATIONS INVOLVED, MORE SYNAGOGUES, ET CETERA, UH, INVOLVED AND, AND DO SOMETHING EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER.
UH, WE HAD A LOT OF COMPETITION THAT DAY, BUT I THINK FOR WHAT WAS GOING ON IN THE CITY, WE HAD A NICE TURNOUT.
THEN WE HAD OUR BLACK HISTORY MONTH WITH OPAL LEE.
I WAS VERY HAPPY THAT THE CHAIR WAS THERE.
BOARD MEMBER WADSWORTH WAS THERE, BOARD MEMBER MAPLES.
AND SO I THINK THAT WAS A REALLY WONDERFUL EVENT.
SOME OF YOU MIGHT BE LIKE, WELL WHAT HAS THIS GOT TO DO WITH OVERSIGHT? AND WHEN I CONCEIVED THIS EVENT, AND I SAID THIS AT THE, AT THE EVENT, YOU KNOW, THERE MIGHT BE, SO THERE WERE TWO OTHER DEPARTMENTS, EQUITY AND INCLUSION AS WELL AS ARTS AND CULTURE.
SO THERE MIGHT BE SOME PEOPLE THAT WOULD NEVER COME TO SOMETHING ABOUT COMMUNITY POLICE OVERSIGHT, RIGHT? OR PEOPLE THAT MAY NOT COME TO SOMETHING ABOUT E RACIAL EQUITY AND INCLUSION OR SOMEBODY THAT MAY NOT COME TO STUFF ABOUT ARTS AND CULTURE, BUT THEY WOULD COME OUT FOR OPAL LEE.
AND SO THE VISION WAS THERE THAT EVEN THOUGH SHE WAS THE MAIN ATTRACTION, PEOPLE WOULD LEARN ABOUT THIS OFFICE AND THIS BOARD, UM, ET CETERA.
AND SO IT WAS A WAY OF DOING COMMUNITY AS, AS YOU HEARD, UH, DCM TOBER TALK ABOUT COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO A COMMUNITY THAT MAY NOT COME TO THIS KIND OF ROOM ON A SECOND TUESDAY OF A MONTH, BUT THEY WOULD COME OUT AND LEARN ABOUT THE WORK THAT THEY, THAT WE DO.
AND SO I THINK IT WAS SUCCESSFUL FROM THAT POINT.
WE ALSO WERE ABLE TO WORK WITH THE YOUTH COMMISSION, THAT'S WHO NORMALLY IS MEETING AT THE SAME TIME WE MEET, WHICH IS WHY WE SWITCHED BETWEEN
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THE CHAMBERS AND HERE.AND IT WAS REALLY WONDERFUL TO HAVE FOUR OF THE YOUTH COMMISSIONERS COME OUT AND PARTICIPATE.
AND SO I THINK IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY GOOD EVENT.
UM, THE NEXT EVENT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE MARCH 2ND, IF YOU GUYS REMEMBER.
THAT'S WHEN WE GOT THAT BAD WEATHER EVENT THAT CAME IN.
UH, SO THAT WE'VE MOVED IT NOW TO MARCH 23RD.
I THINK THE CHAIR WILL BE ABLE TO BE THERE.
HE'S VERIFYING WITH HIS SCHEDULE.
UM, AND SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO FINDING OUT WHICH ONES OF YOU ARE COMING BECAUSE I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE SOME OVERSIGHT.
ONE PANEL IS GONNA BE THE POLICE AND OVERSIGHT AND THE OTHER PANEL IS GONNA BE COMMUNITY AND FAITH LEADERS.
AND SO, UH, IF ANY OF YOU ARE PLANNING TO COME, LET ME KNOW SO THAT I CAN UM, FIGURE OUT HOW WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO PUT YOU ON THAT PANEL WITH THE POLICE AND OVERSIGHT LEADERS.
AND SO THAT'S COMING UP ON THE 23RD AND WE WILL HAVE INTERPRETATION THERE.
SO ANY OF YOU THAT HAVE DISTRICTS THAT HAVE A, A LARGE HISPANIC POPULATION, WE ARE GONNA BE HAVING AN INTERPRETER THERE.
SO PEOPLE THAT SPEAK SPANISH WILL BE ABLE TO, UM, FOLLOW ALONG IN REAL TIME.
AND SO, UM, I WILL RESEND THESE OUT AND ONE IS IN ENGLISH AND ONE IS IN SPANISH, BUT THAT ONE'S COMING UP IN ON MARCH 23RD.
SO WE HAD A VERY BUSY, VERY BUSY FEBRUARY.
UM, AND SO THAT'S IT FOR US FOR RIGHT NOW.
AND I, I I DEFINITELY ENJOYED THE, UM, THE UH, EVENT WITH VOCALLY.
I MEAN THAT IF YOU EVER GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE IN THE SAME ROOM WITH HER, TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.
I'VE BEEN BLESSED TO TO SEE HER ON TWO OCCASIONS WITHIN THIS YEAR AND, AND NEITHER DISAPPOINTED.
AND SO, UH, I WAS, I WAS, YOU SHOULD HAVE SEEN THE BANTER BETWEEN HER AND THE CITY MANAGER.
SHE, SHE'S QUICK ON HER FEET, SHE IS QUICK ON HER FEET TO BE 96 YEARS OLD, WHICH IS A BLESSING IN ITSELF THAT, THAT SHE COMES AND IMPARTS WISDOM FROM HER LIFE TO US SO THAT THAT KNOWLEDGE IS NOT LOST.
UM, AND SO ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS OR CHAIRMAN? UM, I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE DIRECTOR.
SO THE EVENT ON THE 23RD, IS THAT STILL AT THE THURGOOD MARSHALL REC CENTER AT YES, 6:00 PM YES.
AND I ALSO WANTED TO SAY TO THE, TO THE LADIES ON THE BOARD ON THE, ON THE, THE WEBEX AS WELL AS IN THE ROOM.
SO I'M NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PULL IT OFF BY THE END OF MARCH CUZ THAT'S IN LIKE TWO WEEKS.
I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW THE YEAR'S CRIME, BUT I WANT TO EXTEND WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH INTO APRIL.
AND SO I THINK I WANNA LIKE DO SOMETHING LIKE A DESSERT, SOCIAL SOCIAL, COME AND MEET THE WOMEN OF, UM, POLICE OVERSIGHT AND, UH, MAYBE EVEN ADD, UM, SOME CITY COUNCIL WOMEN, UH, LIKE, UH, VICE CHAIR MENDELSON, WHO'S VICE CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO I'M STILL MULLING IT OVER IN MY HEAD, BUT JUST LOOK FOR AN EMAIL FROM ME TO SEE IF WE CAN FIGURE OUT AN EVENING.
BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE NICE TO, UM, I'VE SEEN PEOPLE EXTEND MONTHS, MONTHS, SO WE'RE GONNA EXTEND WOMEN'S HISTORY MONTH INTO APRIL AND I'LL FIGURE OUT IF WE CAN DO SOMETHING, UM, WITH THE LADIES OF OVERSIGHT.
SO BE LOOKING FOR AN EMAIL FROM ME ABOUT THAT.
AND I DID ALSO ATTEND THE, THE, UH, NIGHT OF COMMUNITY HEALING.
I WAS NOT ABLE TO STAY LONG BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT I MADE A COMMITMENT TO MS. WADSWORTH TO COME TO HER, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER, UH, MENDELSON'S, UM, HER, HER, UH, COMMUNITY MEETING.
SO I HAD TO BE IN TWO PLACES AT ONE TIME ON OPPOSITE SIDES OF THE CITY.
AND SO, UH, PICTURE, BUT, BUT ONE THING I DO WANT TO SAY, AND I MENTIONED THIS AT THE, UH, EVENT AND YOU KNOW, I MAY CATCH SOME PLAQUE FROM IT, BUT THAT'S OKAY.
UH, WELL, TYRE WITH TYREE NICHOLS, THE COMMUNITY WAS HURTING.
AND WHEN I SAY THE COMMUNITY, I'M TALKING ABOUT BOTH THE CIVILIAN AND THERE WERE POLICE OFFICERS THAT, THAT, THAT WERE HURTING AS WELL.
MEANING THAT I, I HAVE A FRIEND THAT'S AN OFFICER AND I, AND I JUST ACTUALLY SAY, HOW DO YOU PUT YOUR UNIFORM ON THE DAY AFTER SOMETHING LIKE THAT HAPPENED? AND, AND SHE SAID THAT, THAT, THAT'S A TOUGH ONE THAT THAT'S, THAT'S EXTREMELY HARD TO DO.
AND SO TO HAVE AN EVENT TO HAVE PEOPLE COME AND, AND, AND SHARE THEIR FEELINGS AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE, I THINK THAT HAVING OFFICERS THERE WAS COULD PROMOTE HEALING AS WELL.
NOW ON THE FLIP SIDE, IT COULD ALSO BE TRIGGERING TOO CAUSE OF THE FACT THAT WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT
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PERCEPTION AND REALITY, YOU HAVE, YOU HAVE MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WHO HAVE HAD NEGATIVE EXPERIENCES WITH POLICE OFFICERS IN AN EVENT LIKE THAT TRIGGERED THEM BECAUSE OF THE FACT THAT THEY ARE TRIGGERED BY POLICE OFFICERS.SO IT'S A VERY SLIPPERY SLOPE, BUT IF WE ARE GOING TO UNITE OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE.
AND I THINK THAT STARTING WITH HEALING IS PROBABLY THE BEST WAY TO DO IT.
MM-HMM
SO THE TW, SO THIS EVENT WAS ALWAYS A PART ONE AND A PART TWO.
SO THE FIRST WAS GONNA BE THE PART ONE WHICH WAS GONNA HAVE THE PANELS, IT WAS GONNA HAVE QUESTION AND ANSWERS FROM THE AUDIENCE.
AND THEN THE 23RD WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE PART TWO.
SO I THINK IT WOULD BE IMPORTANT FOR SOME OF YOU TO BE ABLE TO COME TO SEE IF YOU LIKED THIS FORMAT, ESPECIALLY HEARING FROM DC TO, BUT ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN LIKE COMMUNITY OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT.
BECAUSE THE SECOND PART WAS REALLY THE ENGAGEMENT.
SO WHAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE HAPPENING IF THE BAD WEATHER HASN'T HAPPENED IS THAT THE EVENT ON THE 23RD WAS GONNA BE SMALL TABLES FACILITATED DISCUSSIONS WHERE PEOPLE IN THAT DISTRICT CAN ACTUALLY SAY, THIS IS WHAT I'D LIKE TO SEE WITH POLICING IN MY DISTRICT.
THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE LIKE THAT ARE GOING WELL, HERE ARE THE AREAS WHERE WE HAVE, SO A REAL TRUE ENGAGEMENT.
SO THERE WILL BE ANOTHER PART TO THIS.
UM, BUT THAT WAS, IT WAS DESIGNED IN THAT WAY.
SO THE FIRST PIECE I GUESS YOU COULD SAY REALLY WAS MORE COMMUNITY OUTREACH, WHERE WE'RE GONNA HAVE, YOU KNOW, THE EXPERTS UP FRONT TALKING THE LEADERS.
BUT THE SECOND PART WAS REALLY THE ENGAGEMENT OF MEMBERS OF DISTRICT THREE TALKING ABOUT POLICING.
SO I THINK IF ANY OF YOU CAN COME, I KNOW THE CHAIR WILL BE THERE AS HIS DISTRICT, BUT IF ANY OF THE REST OF YOU CAN COME, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO ME AS THE DIRECTOR TO SAY, HEY, YOU KNOW, THIS WAS KIND OF GOOD DIRECTOR, BUT I THINK IT COULD HAVE BEEN BETTER THIS WAY.
OR THIS IS A BETTER WAY TO MAYBE THINK ABOUT HOW TO ENGAGE THE COMMUNITIES IN THE DISTRICTS AND STUFF.
SO ANYBODY THAT CAN COME KNOW THAT I WILL BE TAPPING YOU ALSO FOR CRITIQUE TO SEE HOW UM, WHEN WE GET TO PART TWO AND EVEN THIS PART ONE, YOU KNOW, DID IT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PANELS? YOU KNOW, MY VISION IS WE'RE GONNA HAVE TWO DIFFERENT PANELS.
DID IT MAKE SENSE? WHAT ARE THE PANELS? SO I'M REALLY LOOKING TO YOU ALL IN YOUR EXPERTISE IN YOUR DISTRICTS TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S THINK ABOUT THIS A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY.
MAYBE LET'S FIGURE OUT HOW WE COULD HAVE DONE IT DIFFERENTLY OR THINK ABOUT IT DIFFERENTLY.
SO ANYBODY THAT'S ABLE TO COME OUT, I WILL BE TAPPING YOU TO SEE HOW YOU THINK AND WHEN AND ANY SUGGESTIONS THAT YOU HAVE ABOUT WAYS TO IMPROVE AND, AND MAKE THESE KIND OF THINGS MORE, UM, MORE PRODUCTIVE AND USEFUL IN YOUR COMMUNITIES.
SORRY I DIDN'T HAVE MY MIC ON.
WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE MONTHLY ACTIVITY REPORT.
SO THIS MONTH WE HAD, UM, 62 COMPLAINTS.
SO OUR NUMBERS WENT DOWN A LITTLE BIT FROM JANUARY, CUZ IN JANUARY WE HAD 88, BUT THEY'RE STILL PRETTY STEADY.
UH, WE ARE GETTING A LOT OF PHONE CALLS.
I DON'T KNOW HOW PEOPLE ARE FINDING US.
AND WHAT IS SO ODD TO ME IS THAT IF YOU GO TO GOOGLE AND YOU PUT IN LIKE THE POLICE, A LOT OF TIMES OUR NUMBER COMES UP BEFORE D P D, WHICH IS SHOCKING.
SO THE NUMBER OF PHONE CALLS THAT ME AND MY STAFF HAVE BEEN FILLING IN FROM PEOPLE THAT THINK THEY'RE REACHING THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS INTERESTING TO ME.
AND THEN EVEN THE OTHER DAY, A WOMAN CALLED AND ABOUT A CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICE ISSUE AND SHE'S LIKE, WELL THEY GAVE ME YOUR NUMBER.
I WAS LIKE, CHILD PROTECTIVE SERVICES GAVE YOU THE OFFICE COMMUNITY.
SHE HAD TO GET THE NUMBER FROM SOMEWHERE.
SO I D OUR NAME IS GETTING OUT THERE, THE DUMPER IS GETTING OUT THERE, OUR PHONE IS CONSTANTLY RINGING, BUT WE ARE AT A STEADY PACE OF, UM, COMPLAINTS AND PEOPLE.
UM, I MEAN IT'S, IN SOME WAYS IT'S KIND OF A BAD REFLECTION, RIGHT? THAT MEANS SOME THINGS MIGHT BE GOING ON THAT PEOPLE AREN'T HAPPY ABOUT, BUT AT LEAST UM, THE PEOPLE ARE FINDING THEIR WAY TO THE OFFICE, UM, TO TO VOICE AND SHARE THEIR CONCERNS.
SO, UH, WE WILL ALSO BE STARTING TO GET YOU ALL BACK OUT THE, UM, SUMMARIES.
CAUSE I KNOW YOU FOUND THAT INTERESTING IN TERMS OF WHAT THESE COMPLAINTS WERE ABOUT.
I JUST, UM, SO WE'LL BE GETTING THOSE, STARTING THOSE AGAIN AS WELL SOON.
SO, BUT FOR THIS MONTH WE HAD 62 COMPLAINTS THAT CAME IN.
IT'S MONTH TO MONTH OF FEBRUARY.
ANY QUESTIONS FROM DIRECTOR MCLARTY? ALRIGHT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE BOARD TRAINING SCHEDULE.
UH, WE JUST HAD OUR COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TRAINING TODAY, APRIL AND MAY, DIRECTOR MCCRARY IS WORKING WITH D P D TRAINING ACADEMY TO SCHEDULE OUR SATURDAY SESSION ON DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND PHYSICAL TRAINING.
ANY QUESTIONS WANTS TO SUBMIT? IF ANYBODY WANTS TO SUBMIT A PROPOSAL, PLEASE TALK TO ME.
IF THE BOARD HAS COME UP WITH THEIR DUE ON THE 17TH, WHICH I BELIEVE IS WHAT FRIDAY, IF YOU WANNA SUBMIT A PROPOSAL TO NA COLE.
SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE BEEN THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO PRESENT, UH, JUST
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LET ME KNOW.I CAN HELP YOU WORK ON IT AND WE CAN GET IT IN.
UM, BY THE 17TH, AND I HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT WITH THE TRAINING ACADEMY, THEY'VE BEEN KIND OF ASKING ME LIKE, YOU KNOW, DO THEY WANT THIS CLASSROOM OR HANDS ON? I SAID, NO, I THINK THEY WANT A MIXTURE.
THEY ENJOY ACTUALLY GETTING IN THE MIX, NOT JUST LEARNING.
SO I LITERALLY HAVE BEEN TALKING TO THEM THIS WEEK.
SO THEY'RE PUTTING TOGETHER, UM, A CURRICULUM FOR YOU ALL FOR THIS PARTICULAR TRAINING.
AND I WILL GET BACK TO YOU WITH THE DATES THAT, UM, THEY'RE PROPOSING.
I'LL MAKE SURE THEY WEAR THE RIGHT SHOES THIS TIME.
WELL, IT WON'T BE COLD, SO WE'LL BE FINE.
UH, UPDATE ON BOARD MEMBER COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.
SO, UM, ON MARCH 9TH, I WAS, UM, UH, THE THANKSGIVING FOUNDATION.
UM, THANKSGIVING SQUARE, MY APOLOGIES.
UM, THEY REACHED OUT TO ME, UM, TO ATTEND A, UH, PROJECT UNITY EVENT THAT THEY DID, UH, ON THURSDAY EVENING.
UM, IT WAS ATTENDED BY ABOUT ANYWHERE BETWEEN 75 AND A HUNDRED PEOPLE, UM, WHICH INCLUDED POLICE OFFICERS.
IT WAS MOSTLY RESIDENTS FROM DISTRICT SEVEN, UM, THAT WERE UPSTAIRS IN, UH, TABLES OF EIGHT, WHICH EACH ONE INCLUDED A POLICE OFFICER AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS.
AND THEY CAME UP WITH IDEAS ON, ON, UH, HOW TO TALK TO EACH OTHER, HOW TO, UH, DISPEL ANY MYTHS OR WHATNOT.
AND, UH, IT WAS A REALLY, REALLY GREAT EVENT.
UM, STARTED AROUND SIX 30 AND I THINK WE GOT OUT OF THERE AROUND NINE O'CLOCK THAT EVENING.
SO, UH, I JUST WANTED TO, UH, LET YOU GUYS KNOW THAT, UH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE, UM, THEIR PLAN ANYWAY IS TO GO TO EACH ONE OF THE DISTRICTS.
AND SO AS THEY ROLL OUT, UM, THESE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TALKS, UM, THEY WILL REACH OUT TO YOU, UM, IN YOUR SPECIFIC DISTRICTS, UM, SO THAT YOU CAN ATTEND.
AND IT WAS, UH, IT WAS A NICE LITTLE DINNER, UH, GREAT FOOD, UH, GREAT COMPANY AND, UH, HIGHLY RECOMMENDED IF YOU RECEIVED THAT INVITE TO ATTEND.
CHAIR, MR. CHAIRMAN? YES, MA'AM.
UM, SO AS YOU MENTIONED, DISTRICT 12 HAD OUR TOWN HALL MEETING THAT FOCUSED ON THE DALLAS POLICE DEPARTMENT.
AND OUR, UM, SPEAKER OF COURSE WAS CHIEF GARCIA.
AND, UM, MY COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON IS CO-CHAIR OF THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE.
SO SHE WAS VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
WE HAD A, A GOOD LARGE TURNOUT FOR THAT.
THE CHAIRMAN ATTENDED, I, I DON'T THINK THERE WAS AN EMPTY SEAT IN THE ROOM.
WAS THERE? IT WAS AT THE LIBRARY.
YEAH, IT, THERE WASN'T, YEAH, IT'S A TIMBER GLEN LIBRARY AND, UH, IT IS ABOUT THE FURTHEST POINT NORTH IN DENTON COUNTY, A CITY OF DALLAS IN DENTON COUNTY.
IT WAS, UM, COUNCIL MEMBER MENDELSON KEEPS HIM AT ONE HOUR.
AND SO IT WENT ONE HOUR AND THEN WE WERE DONE.
AND, UM, WE GOT A LOT OF GOOD FEEDBACK, A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS, AND I THOUGHT THE CHIEF DID A GOOD JOB.
AND AS, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, UM, YESTERDAY I DID PARTICIPATE IN AN EVENT CALLED BARBERSHOP TALK.
AND IT, UM, I WAS ON A PANEL WITH, UM, OTHER COMMUNITY LEADERS.
TERRY FLOWERS, THE HEADMASTER FOR ST.
PHILLIPS SCHOOL IN, IN DALLAS.
AND WE TALKED ABOUT A LOT OF, UM, ISSUES.
THE, THE IDEA BEHIND IT IS THE FACT THAT THE BARBERSHOP, THAT'S THE PILLAR OF MANY, UH, OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY IN MANY, IN MANY AREAS.
AND AT THE BARBERSHOP, A LOT OF CONVERSATION TAKES PLACE, NOT JUST ABOUT HAIRSTYLES, BUT ABOUT POLITICS, SPORTS, WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE COMMUNITIES, RELIGION, THINGS OF THAT NATURE.
SO WE, WE FOCUSED ON, ON MENTORING AND, UM, COMMUNICATION, UM, KIND OF TALKING ABOUT OUR BACKGROUNDS AND WE WERE SUPPOSED TO TALK ABOUT, UM, ATTITUDES TOWARDS POLICING, HOWEVER, WE RAN OUT OF TIME.
SO THERE'LL BE A PART TO, TO, TO DISCUSS, UH, POLICING.
BUT IT WAS A VERY GOOD A LOT, LOT OF CONVERSATION.
WE, THE MODERATOR DIDN'T HAVE ANY TROUBLE GETTING
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THE PANEL TO SPEAK, SO THERE WILL BE A PART TWO AND I'LL, I'LL LET EVERYONE KNOW IN ADVANCE WHEN THE PART TWO HAPPENS.AND DIRECTOR ALSO, UH, THE EVENT THAT VICE CHAIR RIVAS BROUGHT UP, WE'RE GONNA BE PARTNERING, UH, WITH THE THANKSGIVING SQUARE AND PROJECT UNITY TO BRING THOSE TO YOUR DISTRICT.
THAT'S WHY I WAS HOPING A LOT OF YOU WOULD'VE BEEN ABLE TO MAKE IT OUT THERE.
AND OUR, ESPECIALLY ONE OF THE VICE CHAIRS SINCE IT WAS A LOT OF DISTRICT SEVEN MEMBERS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOPING, UH, TO BRING TO EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS.
SO I'M EXCITED THAT WE'RE GONNA BE CO-SPONSORING THOSE EVENTS GOING FORWARD.
AND THEN ALSO, I JUST WANTED TO LET YOU KNOW YOU ALL THAT HE'S ON THE LINE.
I'M WORKING WITH BOARD MEMBER MAPLES ON TRYING TO COME UP WITH AN EVENT AND ALSO BOARD MEMBER, UM, SANFORD ON COMING UP WITH AN EVENT.
SO THERE'S TWO MORE OF YOUR BOARD MEMBERS CHAIR THAT ARE ACTUALLY, UH, WORKING ON EVENTS, UH, GOT 'EM IN THE HOPPER.
AND LIKE I SAID, I, ALL OF YOU GUYS ARE DOING CREATIVE STUFF, LIKE BOARD MEMBER SANFORD DOESN'T, YOU KNOW, SHE'S THINKING ABOUT SOMETHING AROUND EARTH DAY OR, YOU KNOW, SO LIKE I DID WITH OPAL LEE, RIGHT? THINGS OUTSIDE THE BOX WHERE PEOPLE MAY COME RIGHT AND LEARN ABOUT OVERSIGHT WHEN THEY MAY NOT JUST COME FOR THAT.
SO, UM, ANYTHING CREATIVE OR WHATEVER, JUST LET ME KNOW.
AND SO BOARD MEMBER MAPLES AND I ARE PUTTING OUR BRAINS TOGETHER WITH HIS COUNCIL TEAM AND OUR BOARD MEMBER, SANFORD AND I ARE PUTTING OUR BRAIN POWER TOGETHER.
SO ANY IDEAS YOU COME UP WITH, JUST LET ME KNOW.
ONCE AGAIN, AS THE CHAIR SAID, WE WILL DO THE HEAVY LIFTING.
I KIND OF JUST NEED YOUR BRAIN CHILD THOUGHT ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO, AND THEN WE WILL KIND OF TAKE IT FROM THERE AND DO THE HEAVY LIFTING FOR YOU ALL.
UM, SO YOU DON'T HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THAT KIND OF THING.
FLOWERS DID MENTION THAT HE WOULD LIKE TO, TO DO SOMETHING AT HIS SCHOOL'S COMMUNITY CENTER.
AND SO I KNOW THAT THAT'S IN DISTRICT SEVEN AND I'M GOING TO, UM, MAKE SURE THAT I GET WITH MR. VICE CHAIR SO THAT HE DEFINITELY CAN BE A PART OF THIS AS WELL.
BUT, UM, YEAH, UM, WHEN, WHEN DR.
FLOWERS CALLS YOU DON'T, YOU DON'T TURN HIM AWAY.
SO I'LL BE, UH, REACHING OUT TO HIM TO KIND OF PICK HIS BRAIN TO SEE WHAT, WHAT SOME OF HIS THOUGHTS ARE.
AND I'LL ALSO GIVE SOME THOUGHTS OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BECAUSE HE ALSO, UH, SHARES THE SAME VIEW THAT YOU DO DIRECTOR, AND THAT THERE HAS TO BE A DRAW TO GET PEOPLE THERE.
MEANING, MEANING TALKING ABOUT POLICING IS NOT GONNA BE THE DRAW.
THERE HAS TO BE SOMETHING THAT DRAWS THE PEOPLE OUT.
AND THEN ONCE WE HAVE 'EM THERE, WE CAN NOT ONLY DISCUSS THE, THE, THE, THE, THE REASON WHY THEY'RE THERE TO DRAW, BUT WE CAN ALSO TALK ABOUT POLICING WHILE WE HAVE THEM.
SO ANYTHING ELSE, BOARD MEMBERS BEFORE WE MOVE ON TO OUR UPCOMING MEETING? ALL RIGHT.
BOARD, OUR UPCOMING MEETING IS APRIL 11TH, 2023.
PER THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT, THE AGENDA WILL POST 72 HOURS PRIOR.
WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OUR BOARD MEMBERS THROUGH ENSURE A ROBUST AND TRANSPARENT AGENDA FOR ALL.
UH, NOW PUBLIC COMMENT, IS THERE ANYONE IN PERSON OR ON THE LINE THAT WOULD LIKE TO GIVE PUBLIC COMMENT? CHAIRMAN, WE HAVE NO ONE ON THE LINE WITH PUBLIC COMMENT.
AND WILL THAT, I'LL ASK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN.
IS THERE A SECOND? Y'ALL DON'T WANNA LEAVE YOU THROUGH OZZY SMITH DISTRICT.
IT'S BEEN PROPERLY MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADJOURN THE MEETING.
ANY OF YOUR OPPOSED? MEANING A AT 7:26 PM.