[Citizen Homeless Commission on September 19, 2024.]
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MITCHELL BOONE, PRESIDENT, CITY HALL DISTRICT 10.
PRESENT, CITY HALL DISTRICT 13.
UH, DISTRICT FIVE SOROYA SANTOS.
I DON'T HEAR ANYTHING ANYMORE.
CAN YOU HEAR THEM? TRAMON? CAN YOU HEAR? I CAN HEAR YOU.
UH, WE'LL AS ALWAYS, WE'LL BEGIN OUR MEETING WITH A READING OF THE MISSION STATEMENT AND DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES OF THE CHC.
THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION IS AN ADVISORY BODY.
THE PURPOSE OF THE CHC IS TO ASSURE PARTICIPATION FROM AND INCLUSION OF ALL STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING THOSE WITH PAST OR PRESENT EXPERIENCE WITH HOMELESSNESS, TO DEVELOP POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS TO ENSURE ALIGNMENT OF CITY SERVICES WITH REGIONAL SERVICES TO ENHANCE EFFICIENCY, QUALITY, AND EFFECTIVENESS OF THE COMMUNITY-WIDE RESPONSE TO HOMELESSNESS.
THE CHC DUTIES AND RESPONSIBILITIES INCLUDE ONE.
ADVISE THE CITY MANAGER AND DALLAS CITY COUNCIL ON ISSUES AFFECTING HOMELESSNESS.
TWO, ASSIST THE CITY IN EVALUATING NEW AND EXISTING PROGRAMS. THREE.
COORDINATE WITH OTHER LOCAL AND REGIONAL BODIES ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS.
PERFORM SUCH OTHER DUTIES ASSIGNED BY THE CITY MANAGER OR THE DALLAS CITY COUNCIL.
AND WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWO, WHICH IS PUBLIC COMMENTS AND SPEAKERS.
I BELIEVE WE HAVE THREE REGISTERED SPEAKERS AND WE'RE GONNA GET STARTED RIGHT AWAY.
UM, MR. CHIARELLI, YOU ARE FIRST, IF YOU'D LIKE TO STEP UP TO THE PODIUM AND WE WILL START THE CLOCK AT TWO MINUTES FOR YOU.
YOU READY? LEMME KNOW WHEN YOU'RE READY.
CAN, CAN WE HEAR HIM? IS HE DON'T MUTE ME, PLEASE.
THAT HAPPENS BEFORE, AFTER I'M FINISHED.
YOU READY? AMANDA'S UP THERE TROUBLESHOOTING.
THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE, SIR.
YOU READY? IS HE, IS HIS MICROPHONE ON CALL? HELLO, SOMEONE? YOU READY? NOT YET, SIR.
OR SIR, CAN YOU SPEAK IN THE MICROPHONE? MR. CHIARELLI? JUST DO A QUICK MIC TEST.
SO WE'RE GONNA START THE TIMER AT TWO MINUTES HERE.
THINK I GOT A MEETING WITH SOMEONE TOMORROW, HALF FOR HALF HOUR.
'CAUSE THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME, MAN.
YOU CAN STRETCH IT OUT BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT TO DO.
YOU CAN START WITH 1% OF THE BOND MONEY ALLOCATED TO FIGHT HOMELESSNESS.
SOME PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY HAVE SUGGESTED MAYOR JOHNSON DOES NOT PRIORITIZE THE HOMELESSNESS DESPITE THE COMMUNITY SAYING NOT 75% OF THE HOMELESSNESS IS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM.
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ONLY 1% THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR YEARS AND YEARS AND YEARS.TAKE THAT AND MAKE SURE YOU GET THAT AND PUT THAT DOWN IN YOUR PAPER.
ALSO, UH, MORENO WROTE SOMETHING ABOUT SAFETY AND BEING, BEING COMPASSIONATE ON THE ARTICLE.
SUNDAY, BIG FAT F FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS.
I'M GONNA TELL YOU SOMETHING, WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE? CHECK REALLY SUGGESTS IN ORDER TO BUILD TRUST, THAT'S ABOUT THE, UH, COMPASSION AND ENCOURAGE THE HOMELESS TO SEEK HELP AND SHELTER.
CITY OFFICIALS SHOULD GO OUT AND ENGAGE WITH THE HOMELESS.
ENGAGE, NOT PUT IT DOWN AND SAY, I WANNA GO TO A CITY AND ENGAGE OUT THERE IN FRONT OF THE FOUNTAIN BECAUSE THEY, YOU GOT TO DO THAT.
GO TO THE, GO TO THE SHELTERS, ENGAGE AND TELL 'EM, HEY, WE WANT YOU TO SPEAK.
THERE'S NEVER NO HOMELESS PEOPLE HERE.
OKAY? NOW, UH, LET LET THEM KNOW THE CITY CARES ABOUT THEM, THEM, AND THAT THEIR OPINIONS ARE WELCOME, COULD GO A LONG WAY TOWARD GAINING USEFUL INFORMATION AND ENCOURAGING THEIR COOPERATION AND GETTING THE HELP THEY NEED WHEN THEY GO IN FRONT OF THE CITY COUNCIL.
ISN'T IT EMBARRASSING? THERE'S NOBODY HERE.
I'VE BEEN SAYING IT FOR YEARS AND YEARS.
YOU IGNORE ME BEFORE THE MEETING.
DON'T IGNORE ME BECAUSE I KNOW WHAT THE HELL I'M TALKING ABOUT.
OKAY, NOW, CHECK RAY ALSO SUGGESTS CASEWORKERS.
THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING ABOUT NIMBY NOT IN MY BACKYARD.
CHECK RAY ALSO SUGGESTS CASEWORKERS ASSIGNED RATINGS LIKE PROBATION PAROLE OFFICER, OR THE CASEWORKERS TO THE HOMELESS ASSIGNED.
THEY ASSIGN THEM CREDIBILITY AND HELPING THEM TO GAIN PUBLIC TRUST AFTER GAINING A CASE WORKER STAMP OF APPROVAL.
COME ON AFTER GAINING A CASE WORKER.
WE APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND STAYING ENGAGED.
BEFORE, I JUST WANNA SAY IF YOU COULD JUST SOMETHING OKAY, SIR, WE HAVE SOME OTHER PUBLIC SPEAKERS.
WE CHANGE IT THROUGH SOME OTHER TIME.
SO, UH, WE'RE GONNA GET OUR NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER.
UM, AND YOU ARE WITH, UM, OKAY.
SO I'M GONNA START THE CLOCK IN 3, 2, 1.
THOSE OF US ONLINE CANNOT HEAR HIM.
TYLER AGAT REFUGE FOR RENEWAL.
UM, IT'S A NEWLY FORMED NONPROFITS FORMED BY A NUMBER OF CONCERNED AND MOTIVATED BUSINESS PEOPLE IN THE DALLAS AREA.
OUR MISSION IS SIMPLE TO MATERIALLY REDUCE THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BY PROVIDING A WIDE BREADTH OF SERVICES IN A SINGLE LOCATION.
UH, WE BELIEVE THAT THE BEST WAY TO MAKE THE MOST IMMEDIATE AND EFFECTIVE IMPACT IS A CAMPUS LOCATED OUTSIDE OF DOWNTOWN THAT WILL PROVIDE TURNKEY AND, UH, TURNKEY SOCIAL AND MEDICAL SERVICES TO ALL PEOPLE THAT NEED THEM.
A TEAM OF DEVOTED PROFESSIONALS WILL BE ON SITE TO ADDRESS A MULTITUDE OF NEEDS, RANGING FROM THE COMPLEXITIES OF VARIOUS MENTAL HEALTH DISORDERS, SUBSTANCE ABUSE, EDUCATION, AND VOCATIONAL TRAINING, AND FINANCIAL LITERACY, THE BASIC HUMAN NEEDS, SUCH AS PROVIDING FOOD AND SHELTER.
NOW, WE, WE RECOGNIZE THAT THESE GOALS ARE COMPLICATED AND DIFFICULT TO ACCOMPLISH.
WE ARE COMMITTED TO EXPENDING THE NECESSARY RESOURCES, BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC, AND DEDICATED THE APPROPRIATE EXPERTISE IN ORDER TO AFFECT REAL CHANGE IN THESE AREAS.
BY COLLABORATING WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS, DALLAS COUNTY, STATE OF TEXAS, HUD HOUSING FORWARD, THE ALL NEIGHBORS COALITION AND ITS ARMY OF IMP UH, OF PASSIONATE SERVICE PROVIDERS AS WELL AS PRIVATE INDUSTRIES BUSINESS LEADERS, WE CAN ACCOMPLISH THE MISSION OF PROVIDING A VULNERABLE POPULATION OF DALLAS SITES, THE VITAL CARE AND SUPPORT THAT THEY NEED WHILE MAKING OUR DOWNTOWN STREETS AND PUBLIC SPACES SAFER, CLEANER, AND MORE APPEALING FOR ALL, FOR ALL MEMBERS OF OUR COMMUNITY AND FOR VISITORS OF THIS GREAT CITY.
UM, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO INTRODUCE MYSELF.
I WELCOME THE CHANCE TO SPEAK WITH YOU, WITH, WITH EACH OF YOU INDIVIDUALLY, TO LEARN MORE ABOUT YOUR IDEAS ON, ON COMBATING AND PREVENTING HOMELESSNESS.
YOU CAN LEARN MORE ABOUT REFUGE RENEWAL AT OUR WEBSITE, WWW.REFUGERENEWAL.ORG.
OUR NEXT PUBLIC SPEAKER IS PHILIP RUTLEDGE.
SO JUST STATE YOUR NAME AND, UH, YOUR ADDRESS AREA FOR CROSSFIT.
I'VE BEEN A RESIDENT IN THE FARMER'S MARKET AREA SINCE ABOUT 2016.
AND I CURRENTLY OWN AND OPERATE THE CROSSFIT HEAT BUSINESS, WHICH IS LOCATED
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JUST A COUPLE BLOCKS SOUTH OF HERE AT ST.OVER THE LAST NUMBER OF YEARS, I'VE WATCHED THE HOMELESS SITUATION EVOLVE IN THE AREA.
DEVELOPMENT HAS CONTINUED AND THIS PAST SPRING, HOWEVER, THE SITUATION GOT REALLY BAD IN OUR AREA WITH THE ESTABLISHMENT OF THE NUMBER OF SEMI-PERMANENT 10 TO 10, UH, ENCAMPMENTS.
I'M REALLY GRATEFUL TO THE CITY FOR THEIR HELP THERE.
THOSE AREAS WERE CLEARED IN MAY, AND THE CITY HAS PREVENTED THEIR REESTABLISHMENT.
HOWEVER, THERE IS STILL A SIZABLE HOMELESS POPULATION IN THE AREA, AND IT IS STILL IMPACTING THE WELLBEING OF OUR RESIDENTS AND THE MEMBERS OF OUR GYM.
IT IS AN IMPEDIMENT TO ME OPERATING AND GROWING MY BUSINESS.
WE STILL REGULARLY DEAL WITH TRASH, FECES, AND URINE FROM HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.
I'M VERY GRATEFUL TO THE EFFORTS OF THE DOWNTOWN DALLAS CLEAN AND SECURITY TEAM FOR HELPING TO DEAL WITH THAT.
BUT I STILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AND STILL AN IMPACT, RIGHT? WE STILL HAVE INDIVIDUALS REGULARLY HARASSING OUR MEMBERS AND MAKING THEM FEEL UNSAFE WALKING ONTO THOSE STREETS.
WE HAVE LIMITED OUR ACTIVITIES OUTSIDE OF THE GYM.
WE USED TO RUN ON THE SIDEWALKS ALL THE TIME.
WE DON'T DO THAT AS MUCH ANYMORE.
WE'VE ALSO PARTNERED WITH THE BRIDGE THAT HELPS WITH PATROLLING THE AREA.
I DID NOTE THAT THE POLICE MONITORING STATION THAT WAS ESTABLISHED AFTER THE ENCAMPMENT WAS REMOVED IN MAY WAS TAKEN DOWN IN AUGUST.
I HOPE NOBODY FEELS THAT THE SITUATION HAS GONE AWAY, AND THAT WAS WHY IT WAS REMOVED.
AND I KNOW THE CITY HAS BEEN DEALING WITH THE SQUATTING ISSUE IN THE FORMER FAMILY GATEWAY BUILDING.
I'VE ALSO BEEN TRYING TO DEAL WITH THE SAME SITUATION IN THE CANTON STREET, UH, STORAGE BUILDING.
AND I KNOW THE CODE COMPLIANCE ORGANIZATION IS TRYING TO HELP US WITH THAT NOW THIS WEEK.
THERE IS A LONG-TERM EFFORT TO TRY TO FIND TRANSITIONAL AND PERMANENT HOUSING FOR THE HOMELESS.
THAT'S GONNA TAKE A LONG TIME.
AND I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERTISE IN THAT AREA.
BUT I WOULD REALLY LIKE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS BEING DONE TO MITIGATE THE IMPACT OF THE HOMELESSNESS NOW, RIGHT.
THERE ARE REGULAR STREET FEEDING ACTIVITIES IN THE AREA.
IT'S, IT'S A ZOO ON THE WEEKENDS.
I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND HOW THOSE EFFORTS ARE GONNA BE REDUCED OR POTENTIALLY RELOCATED.
THERE IS TRASH BECAUSE THERE ARE NO TRASH BINS AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE CAN'T PROVIDE THOSE THINGS.
THERE ARE NO, MR. RUTLEDGE, THAT IS YOUR TIME, AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR CONCERNS AND, UM, I'LL, I'LL FOLLOW UP WITH AN EMAIL TO YOU.
I JUST WANNA SAY THANK YOU FOR YOUR FERENCE.
I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT WE CAN DO TO HELP AND WHERE TO GO FROM HERE.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ENGAGING.
AND THAT INCLUDES THE PUBLIC, UH, PUBLIC SPEAKERS FOR ITEM TWO.
MOVING ON TO ITEM THREE IS THE APPROVAL OF MINUTES FROM THE AUGUST 15TH, 2024 CHC MEETING.
IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL COMMISSIONER? HOW SO MOVES? WE HAVE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL FROM COMMISSIONER HOUCK.
SO WE HAVE, UM, A MOTION BY COMMISSIONER HOUCK AND A SECOND BY COMMISSIONER KLATTEN.
H ANY DISCUSSION RELATED TO CORRECTIONS OR CHANGES TO THE AUGUST MEETING MINUTES? NO ONE HERE AT CITY HALL.
ANYONE IN VIRTUAL LAND HEARING AND SEEING NONE.
ALL IN FAVOR TO APPROVE THE MEETING MINUTES FROM AUGUST 15TH, 2024.
NEXT ITEM, ITEM FOUR, UH, IS THE ECONOMIC COST OF HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.
THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY DR. PHILIP WONG, UH, MEDICAL DOCTOR AND MASTERS IN PUBLIC HEALTH.
HE IS THE DIRECTOR OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES FOR DALLAS COUNTY.
DR. WONG, WE'RE GONNA FIRE UP YOUR PRESENTATION HERE.
CAN WE GET A MIC CHECK AND GET YOU ON SCREEN? YEAH.
CAN, CAN YOU HEAR ME? CAN YOU SEE ME? WE, WE CAN HEAR YOU.
UM, ARE YOU ABLE TO PUT YOUR VIDEO ON IT? IT SHOWS THAT I'M ON, BUT CAN YOU NOT SEE ME? WE'RE WORKING ON THAT.
DO WE HAPPEN TO HAVE EITHER PRINT OR ELECTRONIC COPIES OF THESE PRESENTATIONS? SIR? UH, DR. WONG, WHENEVER YOU'RE READY, YOU MAY START.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE TODAY.
AND ALSO, UH, I'M JOINED, UH, BY DR.
ALI DPE, WHO IS OUR, UH, HEALTH ECONOMIC ECONOMIST AT, UH, D-C-H-H-S-I.
I'LL GIVE A SORT OF QUICK OVERVIEW OF THE FINDINGS.
IF YOU HAVE ANY DETAILED QUESTIONS, UH, DR.
UM, SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
UH, YOU KNOW, THE, OUR GOAL WITH THIS WAS JUST REALLY TO TRY TO MEASURE, UH, THE DIFFERENT COST COMPONENTS, UH, ASSOCIATED WITH HOUSING, UH, HOMELESS IN DALLAS AND COMMON COUNTIES.
AND SO WE USED THE POINT IN TIME, UH, COUNT, UH, FROM HOUSING FORWARD.
UH, THIS WAS BASED ON 2023 DATA, UH, WHICH, UM, UH, IDENTIFIED 4,244, UH, PERSONS EXPERIENCING
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HOMELESS.AND, AND WE DID DALLAS AND COUNT COLIN, BECAUSE THAT WAS THE, UH, SORT OF AREA COVERED BY THE POINT IN TIME SURVEY.
UH, AND THEN, UM, DIFFERENT DATA SOURCES, UH, TO TRY TO LOOK AT THE COST COMPONENTS, UH, FOR HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.
UH, SO TRY TO LOOK AT, UH, THESE DIFFERENT COST COMPONENTS, HOSPITALIZATIONS, TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH, EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS, INCARCERATION, AND EMERGENCY SHELTERS.
DEPE, YOU KNOW, REALLY LOOKED IN THE LITERATURE, TRIED TO FIND, IDENTIFY, UH, RELEVANT, UH, ESTIMATES FOR SOME OF THESE, UH, COST COMPONENTS.
UH, AND FOR HOSPITALIZATIONS, UH, WAS NOTED.
UH, HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL TYPICALLY, UH, ON AVERAGE SPENDS FOUR DAYS LONGER IN A HOSPITAL VISIT THAN COMPARABLE NON HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS.
UM, USED ADMISSION, UH, COSTS AND THEN AVERAGE COSTS, UH, FOR DAILY HOSPITALIZATION, UH, WITH A PROBABILITY OF 0.31 FOR A HOMELESS PERSON TO BE, UM, UH, HOSPITALIZED.
AND SO FOR HOSPITALIZATIONS COME TO ABOUT 39,000,383, UH, THOUSAND FOR THAT COST COMPONENT.
FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT, UH, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, CERTAINLY IDENTIFIED HOMELESS, UH, POPULATION REQUIRES MEDIC MORE MEDICAL TREATMENT THAN THE REST OF THE POPULATION.
UM, MOST RECENT WHAT DR. WONG, IT WAS ABOUT MR. WONG, YOU WERE ON MUTE.
SO IF YOU COULD JUST KIND OF BACK UP A LITTLE BIT ON THE MEDICAL TREATMENT.
I THINK I WAS GETTING AN INCOMING CALL.
UH, CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? YES, SIR.
SO, UM, UH, THE MOST RECENT ESTIMATE FOR MEDICAL TREATMENT ON HOMELESS ABOUT 18,764, UM, BASED ON MEDICAID CLAIMS. UH, 0.73 PER, UH, PROBABILITY OF RECE OF A HOMELESS PERSON RECEIVING MEDICAL TREATMENT.
SO, UM, UH, TAKING IT IN THE 4,410 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS IDENTIFIED IN POINT IN TIME COUNT, UH, 0.73, PROBABILITY OF RECEIVING MEDICAL TREATMENT.
AND THEN THE 18,000, UH, 764, UM, UH, ESTIMATED COST, UH, PER INDIVIDUAL FOR THOSE.
UH, SO ABOUT 60 MILLION, UH, 406,000, UH, IN MEDICAL TREATMENT COSTS.
NEXT SLIDE FOR MENTAL HEALTH, UH, LOOKED AT WHAT'S THE LIKELIHOOD OF A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL, UH, USING MENTAL HEALTH SERVICES.
UH, THAT ESTIMATE WAS ESTIMATED TO BE ABOUT 0.382, AND ABOUT 10,244 AS THE, UH, AVERAGE COST OF A MENTAL HEALTH, UH, PER HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL THAT SET SOUGHT MENTAL HEALTHCARE.
UH, SO ABOUT 0.38, TWO TIMES THE 4,410 AND THE 10,000, UH, 244, UH, GIVES ABOUT 17,257,000 FOR MENTAL HEALTH COSTS.
UH, FOR EMERGENCY ROOM, UH, VISITS, UH, THERE'S SOME DATA, UH, THERE.
ABOUT 170 EMERGENCY ROOM VISITS PER A HUNDRED HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS ON AVERAGE, UH, IN THE STATE OF TEXAS.
UH, TYPICAL ER VISIT COSTS $2,200.
UM, AND SO FOR ER VISITS, UH, ABOUT 1.7, UH, TIMES THE, UH, 4,410 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS TIMES THE 2200, ABOUT 16,493,000 FOR EMERGENCY VISITS.
AND NEXT SLIDE FOR INCARCERATION.
UH, THAT WAS ONE OF THE MORE CHALLENGING, UH, UH, EFFORTS TO TRY TO GET THAT, UH, COST ESTIMATE OF LIKELIHOOD OF A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL BEING ARRESTED IS 5.51 TIMES LARGER THAN AVERAGE.
UH, INDIVIDUAL BASED ON THE AVAILABLE RESEARCH USED A PROBABILITY OF 0.09 FOR LIKELIHOOD OF INCARCERATION OF A HOMELESS INDIVIDUAL.
UH, AVERAGE DAY OF INCARCERATION COUNTY JAILS ABOUT THREE DAYS.
SO, UH, THE ESTIMATED COST, UH, WAS THE AVERAGE DAILY COST, AND THEN THE AVERAGE DAYS OF IMPRISONMENT TO CALCULATE THE TOTAL COST.
SO THAT WORKS OUT TO ABOUT, UM, LET'S SEE, UH, TOTAL BOTTOM LINE, ABOUT 21 MILLION, 342,000, UH, FOR THAT.
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WELL, LET'S SEE THAT, UH, IN 2023, THE TEXAS HOMELESS NETWORK REPORTED 43% OF HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WERE LIVING IN EITHER AN EMERGENCY SHELTER OR TRANSITIONAL HOUSING, UH, HUD.AND THIS IS FROM 2010, ESTIMATED AVERAGE MONTHLY COST OF EMERGENCY SHELTERING FOR AN INDIVIDUAL.
UH, AND THIS WAS BASED IN HOUSTON, VARIED FROM 853 TO 1,187.
UH, ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION, UH, MAKES IT ABOUT, UH, 1327 TO 1,846, UH, IN PRESENT, UH, DOLLARS.
SO, DOING THOSE CALCULATIONS, UH, THE, UH, SORT OF A, A RANGE BASED ON THE, THE LOWEST VERSUS HIGHEST, UH, ESTIMATES.
SO IT WOULD COST FROM 23 MILLION, UH, TO 33 MILLION, UH, BASED ON, UH, WHICH ESTIMATE, UH, YOU USED OF THE COST OF SHELTERING.
SO WHEN YOU ADD IT ALL TOGETHER, UH, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT COST COMPONENTS, UH, IT COMES OUT TO ABOUT 198, UH, MILLION, 98,000.
UH, AND IF YOU DID THAT, UH, ON A PER CAPITA, UH, COST, UH, PER OF THE 4,410, UH, THAT WE'RE IN THE IN TIME COUNT, ABOUT 44,000, UH, 920 PER, UH, INDIVIDUAL.
UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE BREAKDOWN, UH, SORT OF BY PERCENTAGE OF THE DIFFERENT COST COMPONENTS, YOU CAN SEE, UH, HOW THAT DOES BREAKDOWN.
UH, THE MEDICAL TREATMENT, UH, IS THE LARGEST, UH, WITH THE, OR, UH, 34% AND HOSPITALIZATION, UH, ACCOUNTING FOR THEN I THINK THE NEXT LARGEST, ABOUT 27%.
UH, AND SO I MADE A COMPARISON.
SO WITH THE EFFORT, UH, THE, UM, UH, EFFORT TO HOUSE 2,700 INDIVIDUALS, UH, WITH, YOU KNOW, THE PARTNERSHIP WITH HOUSING FORWARD AND CITY AND COUNTY, UH, WITH THE 70 MILLION, UH, DOLLAR, UH, INVESTMENT FOR THAT, WITH THE GOAL OF HOUSING 2,700 INDIVIDUALS, I THINK IT'S ACTUALLY SURPASSED THAT.
BUT, UH, SO PER CAPITA SPENDING OF ABOUT 25,925.
AND SO, UM, BASED ON THIS STUDY, IF WE WERE TO TAKE THE PER CAPITA COSTS, UH, FOR THIS 2,700 INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TO BE HOUSED UNDER THE, UH, THE REALTIME REHOUSING EFFORT, UH, THAT WOULD COST, UM, UH, ASSOCIATED FOR THE 2,700 HOMELESS INDIVIDUALS WOULD BE ABOUT 121,284,000.
UH, SO, UM, YOU CAN SEE IF A $70 MILLION INVESTMENT IN THE REALTIME REHOUSING COULD JUST SAVE EVEN A FRACTION OF THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH HOMELESSNESS, UH, YOU KNOW, THERE IS A, A TREMENDOUS OPPORTUNITY FOR SAVINGS, UH, IF YOU LOOK AT THE $70 MILLION INVESTMENT VERSUS, UH, WHAT'S ESTIMATED TO, UH, THE COST FOR THOSE 27 INDIVIDUALS TO BE ABOUT 121,284,000.
UM, SO THAT WAS REALLY, UH, THE, UH, THE RES THE FINDINGS, UH, FROM THIS EFFORT.
UH, AGAIN, UM, APPRECIATE, UH, DR.
DPA'S WORK ON THIS AND, AND REALLY TRYING TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, IDENTIFY WHAT WERE THE BEST ESTIMATES, UH, AND PUT THAT TOGETHER, UH, IN THIS, UH, FRAMEWORK AND APPLY IT FOR DALLAS COUNTY.
SO, UH, THAT'S ALL WE HAVE FOR OUR PRESENTATION, UM, BUT HAPPY TO ANSWER QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
DR. WONG, I'D JUST LIKE TO ASK A VERY QUICK, UM, QUESTION ON THE SLIDE WITH TOTAL COST OF HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS AND IN COLLIN COUNTIES.
UM, MAYBE I MISSED WHAT YOU HAD STATED, BUT I'M LOOKING FOR THE MENTAL HEALTH COMPONENT ON THE GRAPH.
UH, THAT, DOES THAT INCLUDE, YEAH, 17,257,000? IS THAT WHICH, WHICH PART OF THE PIE GRAPH IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE MEDICAL TREATMENT? OH, LET'S SEE.
OH, ON THE PIE GRAPH, LET ME SEE.
OH, IT'S, IT'S NOT ON THE, YOU KNOW, RIGHT.
IT IS, UH, IT IS NOT ON THAT PIE GRAPH.
IT'S IN THE PRIOR, UH, THE PRIOR CHART, THE, THE, UH, PAGE BEFORE.
I WAS JUST WONDERING IF IT WAS INCLUDED IN, UH, MEDICAL TREATMENT OR HOSPITALIZATION OR EMERGENCY ROOM VISIT.
DPE, DO YOU KNOW, THAT MAY JUST BE, WE, WE MAY HAVE MISSED, OH, IT'S IN MEDICAL TREATMENT.
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THANK YOU.AND THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THAT PRESENTATION.
UM, I'M GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR TO COMMISSIONERS.
UM, COMMISSIONERS, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TWO MINUTES THIS FIRST ROUND.
UM, WE'RE GONNA START HERE AT CITY HALL.
PLEASE RAISE YOUR MICROPHONE AND HIT SPEAK.
SO I CAN SEE THAT YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK.
AND I'M LOOKING TO MY LEFT, AND I SEE COMMISSIONER HOWICK FROM DISTRICT THREE, DISTRICT FOUR RATHER.
SORRY, UH, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
CHAIR GARNER, AND THANK YOU DR. WONG.
I LOVE SEEING THIS KIND OF DATA.
I THINK IT PUTS A GOOD FRAMER AROUND THINGS.
DO WE, HAVE YOU GOT ANYTHING THAT CAN SHOW US A LITTLE COMPARISON AROUND OTHER HOMELESS HOTSPOTS LIKE SAN FRANCISCO, LA NEW YORK, TO SEE WHERE WE COMPARE? BECAUSE I'M KIND OF CURIOUS TO SEE THE STATE OF OUR, I THINK THIS PAINTS A PICTURE OF THE STATE OF OUR HOMELESSNESS, UM, IN A WAY WE HAVEN'T LOOKED AT BEFORE.
SO I'D LIKE TO KNOW IF YOU HAVE THAT DATA OR A WAY TO GET TO THAT.
'CAUSE I THINK THERE'S SOME VALUE IN SEEING HOW OTHER BIG CITIES ARE SPENDING THEIR MONEY, WHAT THIS GO ALONG AND, AND COMPARE US.
UH, AND, YOU KNOW, I MEAN, THIS IS, IT, IT'S SORT OF PER CAPITA ESTIMATES.
SO I MEAN, YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO, UH, UH, UH, PROBABLY THE COMPARISON WOULD BE MORE IN THE NUMBERS, UH, IN THOSE OTHER COMMUNITIES.
AND I KNOW THERE ARE CERTAINLY OTHER, UH, REPORTS AND THINGS THAT, UH, THE PROBLEM FROM COMMUNITIES.
WE'RE, WE WERE JUST DOING THIS FOR, UH, DALLAS COUNTY AND
I'M LOOKING HERE AT CITY HALL.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DR. WONG? OKAY.
COMMISSIONER JACOB, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU, DR. WONG, FOR A VERY INFORMATIONAL AND EDUCATIONAL PRESENTATION.
UH, JUST A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS FOR YOU.
UH, AND, AND THE MODELING THAT YOU DO HERE IS GREAT.
THE RELIANCE ON, UH, UH, PROBABILITY IS GREAT HERE AS WELL, BY WAY OF TRACKING AN ACTUAL, AND LOOKING AT ACTUAL NUMBERS.
HOW MANY PATIENTS THAT ARE HOMELESS WERE, WERE TREATED IN THE LAST YEAR BY DALLAS COUNTY PROVIDERS.
YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER, A DIFFERENT, YEAH.
DEPE SAYING YOU POINTING OUT, THAT'S HARD TO SAY.
I MEAN, THERE'S CERTAINLY, UH, UNCOMPENSATED, UH, CARE REPORTS FOR, UH, YOU KNOW, LIKE PARKLAND, UH, THINGS LIKE THAT.
NOW, IN TERMS OF HOMELESSNESS, UH, YEAH, I DON'T KNOW.
I HAVEN'T SEEN AN ANALYSIS OR BREAKDOWN ON THAT, BUT THAT'D BE, HAVE TO BE A SEPARATE STUDY, I WOULD THINK.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS TRACKED BY THE PROVIDERS, WHETHER OR NOT SOMEONE IS HOMELESS OR HAS AN ACTUAL ADDRESS? YOU KNOW, THAT WOULD BE, UH, I, I'D BE, AND IF I TALK TO DALLAS FORT WORTH HOSPITAL COUNCIL, OR WE COULD TALK TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE AT PARKLAND IN TERMS OF, UH, HOW THEY, IF THEY DESIGNATE THAT, UM, YOU KNOW, I KNOW CHRISTINE CROSSLEY'S ON THE LINE FOR, UH, WITH THE CITY.
I DON'T KNOW IF SHE'S SEEN THAT, UH, SPECIFICALLY FOR DALLAS.
I, IT'D BE SORT OF A DIFFERENT QUERY.
WE WANNA ASK, UM, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE PROVIDERS, SOME OF THE HOSPITAL SYSTEMS. UM, OKAY.
JUST ONE LAST QUESTION FOR YOU.
UM, ON SLIDE THREE, YOU TALK ABOUT THE PIT COUNT AND HOW THE, UH, 2023 PIT COUNT, UH, NUMBERED 4,244 INDIVIDUALS IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY WHO ARE HOMELESS.
IN YOUR ESTIMATION, IN LOOKING TO SEE WHAT, UH, THE CASES THAT ARE COMING THROUGH, SPECIFICALLY DALLAS COUNTY PROVIDERS, IS THAT A TRUE AND ACCURATE DEPICTION OF HOMELESSNESS IN DALLAS? YOU KNOW, IT IS THE ACCEPTED METHODOLOGY.
UM, YOU KNOW, I, I, AND SO I WOULD, IT, IT IS WHAT'S, UH, CONSIDERED THE BEST PRACTICE FOR THAT.
I MEAN, BUT I'M SURE, AND I'VE PARTICIPATED IN THEM IN THE PAST, UH, YOU KNOW, I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE SOME, UH, YOU, YOU'RE NOT CAPTURING EVERYONE IN THERE, BUT IT, IT IS SORT OF THE ACCEPTED, UH, METHODOLOGY.
AND IT, YOU KNOW, THERE'S CERTAINLY LIMITATIONS WITH THAT.
UH, AGAIN, I, UH, WONDER IF ANY OTHERS THAT HAVE, UH, WORKED ON IT HAVE A COMMENT ON THAT.
BUT, UH, UH, IT'S SORT OF THE STANDARD METHODS.
UH, BUT IT'S, IT'S OBVIOUSLY NOT A PERFECT, YEAH.
IT'S A DIFFICULT THING TO CAPTURE.
THANK, THANK YOU FOR YOUR QUESTION.
AND I, I DO WANNA ADD, I, I WORKED IN A LEVEL ONE TRAUMA, NOT PARKLAND.
AND, UM, INDIVIDUALS WHO CAME IN WHO DID NOT HAVE AN ADDRESS WERE GENERALLY GIVEN THE BRIDGE AS THEIR ADDRESS.
SO IF THERE WERE TO BE A QUERY, YOU KNOW, YOU COULD PERHAPS QUERY, UH, EMERGENCY SHELTERS IN THAT MANNER.
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OKAY.LOOKING HERE AT CITY HALL, AND IT LOOKS LIKE, UH, COMMISSIONER SOHAN HAS A QUESTION.
IT'S NOT A QUESTION, IT'S A COMMENT.
UM, A FEW YEARS AGO WHEN I TOURED, UH, CITY SQUARE AND JOHN SIBERT WAS IN CHARGE AT THE TIME, I ASKED HIM HOW THEY DECIDED WHO GOT THE TINY HOUSES, AND HE SAID, TINY HOUSES.
THEY HAD SEVERAL TINY HOUSES, AND THEY, UM, SAID THEY GOT IT FROM PARKLAND AND A NUMBER OF VISITS BY HOMELESS PEOPLE.
SO IT'S DEFINITELY COUNTED IN PARKLAND, WHICH IS, I THINK, WHERE THEY SEEK THE MOST HELP.
UM, SO THEY'RE ABLE TO GET THAT DATA.
SO I'M STILL HERE AT CITY HALL LOOKING, DID YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, COMMISSIONER? NO.
I'M STILL HERE AT CITY HALL LOOKING TO MY RIGHT AND LEFT.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO HAVE ANY QUESTIONS FOR DR. WONG? OKAY.
SEEING AND HEARING NONE, WE'RE LOOKING OUT IN VIRTUAL LAND.
MS. ANGIE, DO YOU SEE ANYONE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED? OKAY, LAST CALL DOWN IN VIRTUAL LAND.
UH, WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE AND SHEDDING LIGHT ON THIS, UM, ISSUE THAT IS DEFINITELY PERTINENT TO DALLAS COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS.
AND, UH, WELL, WE'RE, WE'VE, THERE'S BEEN, UH, A SORT OF A DRAFT REPORT THAT WE'VE HAD OUT THERE, BUT WE PLAN TO GET THIS OUT, UH, PUBLICLY, UH, IN THE VERY NEAR FUTURE.
UH, THIS IS ITEM FIVE WITH, UH, WE HAVE A DISCUSSION.
IT'S AN UPDATE ON FAMILY HOMES HOMELESSNESS.
THIS IS GONNA BE PRESENTED BY ELLEN MAGNUS, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FAMILY GATEWAY.
WELCOME TO THIS ITERATION OF THE CITIZENS HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION.
I THINK YOU'VE PRESENTED TWO OTHER TIMES.
UH, OH, MY PHONE WAS, IS THERE ANY WAY TO HIDE THAT PARTICIPANT LIST SO THE SLIDES CAN BE BICKER? UH, ANGIE, WELL, OKAY.
THIS IS AN UPDATE ON FAMILY HOMELESSNESS.
THIS IS PRESENTED BY ELLEN MAGNUS.
ARE YOU READY, ELLEN? I'M READY.
YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET, YOU'RE GONNA HAVE TO GET YOUR PAPER COPIES, I THINK.
OH, THERE'S A LITTLE BIT BETTER.
WELL, IT'S NICE TO BE WITH YOU ALL AGAIN.
AND, UM, I, I WOULD LOVE TO COME ANNUALLY TO GIVE YOU AN ANNUAL UPDATE ON FAMILY HOMELESSNESS.
UH, SO I WANTED TO BRING YOU SOME DATA TO LOOK AT 2023, AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT THE COMPARISON OF PRE PANDEMIC DATA VERSUS 2023, SO THAT WE CAN SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW, FAMILY GATEWAY SERVES AS THE CENTRALIZED ACCESS POINT FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
WE ANSWER A 24 7 HELPLINE, THE HOMELESS CRISIS HELPLINE FOR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN.
WE HAVE THE ONLY EMERGENCY SHELTERS IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTY THAT SERVE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, AND, UM, TO INCLUDE ALL TYPES OF FAMILIES.
SO THERE ARE SOME SHELTERS THAT ARE CATEGORIZED AS TRANSITIONAL, NOT EMERGENCY, BUT THEY WILL HELP SINGLE FEMALE HEADS OF HOUSEHOLD WITH CHILDREN, BUT NOT ALL TYPES OF FAMILIES.
SO WE'VE TRIED TO BE INCLUSIVE IN OUR APPROACH, AND WE'VE BEEN AROUND, WE WERE FOUNDED BY MAYOR ANNETTE STRAUSS ABOUT 38 YEARS AGO.
SO WE'VE BEEN AROUND FOR A WHILE.
UH, SO IN 2023, UM, THIS LITTLE SLIDE, WHICH THOSE OF YOU WHO KNOW ME HAVE SEEN ME PRESENT THIS LITTLE PIE CHART OVER THE YEARS.
THIS IS SORT OF THE INCOMING INTO OUR ACCESS POINT AND IN WHAT STATE FAMILIES ARE IN WHEN THEY'RE SEEKING SERVICES.
SO THE BLUE PIE CHART IS 28% OF THE FAMILIES WHO CAME IN 2023 WERE CATEGORIZED AS LIVING IN AN UNINHABITABLE LOCATION.
USUALLY A CAR, UM, FAMILIES ARE NOTORIOUSLY HIDDEN.
AND SO WE DON'T REALLY SEE THEM ON THE STREET.
AND SO WE TEND NOT TO THINK ABOUT THEM, WHICH IS WHY I LIKE TO GIVE A LITTLE REPORT EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, I'LL JUST SAY, DON'T FORGET ABOUT THIS POPULATION, JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.
SO ABOUT 28% LIVING IN THEIR CAR, 24% IN A HOTEL, PAYING THEIR OWN WAY AND RUNNING OUTTA MONEY 16% LAST YEAR, AND CATEGORIZED AS IMMINENTLY HOMELESS, WHICH MEANS THEY WILL BE HOMELESS IN 72 HOURS.
AND TYPICALLY THESE ARE PENDING IN EVICTION.
ABOUT 4% ARE IN ANOTHER SHELTER AND EITHER NEED TO LEAVE OR WANT TO LEAVE.
AND THIS IS PRIMARILY FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN EXITING FROM A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER WHO'VE TIMED OUT OF THAT SHORT TERM CARE WHO CAN'T GO HOME.
AND THEN THERE'S THIS POPULATION,
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WHICH MAKES UP ABOUT 28% OF OF THE FOLKS SEEKING HELP LAST YEAR.WE CATEGORIZE THEM AS DOUBLED UP OR NON-URGENT.
THIS MEANS THEY COULD BE LIVING WITH A FAMILY MEMBER, AND THE FAMILY MEMBER IS NOT KICKING THEM OUT, BUT THEY DON'T WANNA BE THERE ANYMORE.
THAT'S A VERY TYPICAL SORT OF SCENARIO.
WE CAN'T GET TO THOSE FAMILIES.
WE HAVE TO FOCUS OUR ENERGY ON THESE FOLKS WHO ARE LIVING IN THEIR CARS, CHECKING OUT OF HOTELS WITH NOWHERE TO GO ABOUT TO BE EVICTED OR COMING OUT OF ANOTHER SHELTER.
SO THERE'S A POPULATION THAT WE FOCUS ON.
AND SO FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO DON'T KNOW HUD'S DEFINITION OF FAMILY HOMELESSNESS MEANS LIVING IN AN UNINHABITABLE LOCATION, SUCH AS A CAR OR ABOUT TO BE THERE IN THAT SITUATION.
THERE'S A DIFFERENT DEFINITION FOR HOMELESSNESS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, WHICH INCLUDES THOSE LITERALLY HOMELESS OR IMMINENTLY HOMELESS, BUT HAS A BROADER CATEGORY OF FOLKS WHO HAVE, WHO ARE LACKING A FIXED, REGULAR PLACE TO LIVE.
SO THAT WOULD PULL IN THOSE FAMILIES WHO ARE DOUBLED UP, OR MAYBE THEY'RE PAYING THEIR WAY IN A HOTEL, BUT THEY'RE EARNING MONEY AND THERE'S NO RISK OF THEM LEAVING.
AND SO, SO WE CAN ONLY FOCUS ON, AT THIS POINT IN TIME, THE HUD DEFINED WHAT MOST CRITICAL, SORT OF LIKE AN EMERGENCY ROOM.
WE NEED OUR GUNSHOT WOUNDS TO THE FRONT OF THE LINE.
YOU, YOU'RE OKAY, HOLD ON, GO TO YOUR PRIMARY CARE DOC.
RIGHT? AND SO, BUT COME BACK TO US IF YOU GET TO THAT PLACE OF BEING LITERALLY OR EMINENTLY HOMELESS.
SO OUR RESPONSE IS DIFFERENT DEPENDING ON THE URGENCY.
SO IF WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AND THIS IS WHY I'M GLAD YOU HAVE PAPER.
SO IN 2019, PRE PANDEMIC, WE ASSESSED A LITTLE OVER 3,300 FAMILIES THROUGH OUR ACCESS POINT.
IN 2023, WE ASSESSED FIFTY SIX HUNDRED AND TWENTY EIGHT.
AND SO THERE'S ALWAYS A CATEGORY OF FOLKS, OH, THANK YOU FOR MAKING THAT BIG.
THERE'S ALWAYS A CATEGORY OF FOLKS WHO CALL US, BUT THEY'RE NOT ELIGIBLE FOR OUR SERVICES.
THEY ACTUALLY DON'T HAVE ANY CHILDREN.
THEY'RE CALLING FROM NEW YORK AND THEY WANNA COME TO DALLAS AND START FRESH.
AND WE'RE LIKE, DO NOT GET ON THAT PLANE.
RIGHT? SO THERE'S A POPULATION OF THOSE, UM, CALLS AND ENCOUNTERS THAT JUST ARE NOT ELIGIBLE.
THEY'RE, THEY'RE PERHAPS IN TARRANT COUNTY OR IN OTHER OUTLYING COUNTY.
AND WE SAY, WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU RIGHT BACK OVER THERE, RIGHT? BECAUSE WE'RE DALLAS AND PAULEN COUNTY.
AND SO THAT LEAVES, UM, FEWER FAMILIES FOR US TO ADDRESS.
SO THEN WE FOCUS ON THOSE LIVING IN AN UNINHABITABLE LOCATION.
TYPICALLY A CAR 738 FAMILIES PRE PANDEMIC LAST YEAR, 1241, LIVING IN HOTELS AND OUTTA MONEY 4 87 PRE PANDEMIC, 1,060 3, 20 23 IN ANOTHER SHELTER NEEDING OR WANTING TO LEAVE ABOUT THE SAME PENDING EVICTION 218 PRE PANDEMIC 709 LAST YEAR.
SO THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUR TARGET FOR OUR EMERGENCY SERVICES GREW FROM 1600 FAMILIES IN 2019 TO MORE THAN 3000 IN 2023.
NOW, THERE'S A LOT OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THAT.
IF, IF YOU REMEMBER DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD ALL SORTS OF PROTECTIONS AND WE HAD ALL SORTS OF EXTRA RESOURCES FLOWING IN.
SO SOME OF THE PROTECTIONS THAT FAMILIES GOT INCLUDE THE CHILD TAX CREDIT, WHICH HAD AN EXPANSION, WHICH PUT MORE MONEY DIRECTLY IN THE HANDS OF FAMILIES.
SO IF A FAMILY CAN ONLY AFFORD A THOUSAND DOLLARS A MONTH OF RENT OFF OF THEIR INCOME, THAT CHILD TAX CREDIT MIGHT HAVE BROUGHT THAT REVENUE UP MONTHLY TO 15 OR 1600.
NOW WE CAN AFFORD THE AVERAGE APARTMENT, RIGHT? AND SO THERE WERE PROTECTIONS IN PLACE DURING THE PANDEMIC OVER THE YEARS IN THAT PANDEMIC PERIOD AND POST PANDEMIC PERIOD, ALL OF THOSE PROTECTIONS ARE GONE.
THEY ALSO GOT EXTRA UNEMPLOYMENT BENEFITS IF THEY WERE UNEMPLOYED.
WE GOT EMERGENCY HOUSING VOUCHERS THAT WERE SPECIFICALLY DEDICATED TO FA TO FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO WERE HOMELESS, NOT LIKE A TYPICAL VOUCHER, WHICH IS A LOTTERY BASED SYSTEM.
THESE WERE SPECIFICALLY FOR PEOPLE WHO WERE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO HAVE FEWER PEOPLE COMING IN AND MOVING THEM OUT MUCH MORE QUICKLY BECAUSE WE HAD THOSE EXTRA RESOURCES AND WE HAD EXTRA RESOURCES FROM ARPA AND ALL OF THESE.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO GET THIS BEAUTIFUL FLOW THROUGH THE SYSTEM, WHICH HELPED US MANAGE OUR SHELTER INVENTORY AND HELP MORE PEOPLE.
RIGHT? THE OTHER THING THAT WE DID DURING, UM, STARTING SEVERAL, I'VE BEEN HERE EIGHT YEARS, SEVEN YEARS AGO, WE STARTED REALLY HEAVILY INVESTING IN DIVERSION.
AND SO DURING THE PANDEMIC AND POST PANDEMIC PERIOD, WE'VE INVESTED MORE AND MORE AND MORE AND MORE.
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AND THAT IS WHEN A FAMILY COMES FOR SERVICES SEEKING SHELTER, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT EVERY POSSIBLE ALTERNATIVE TO SHELTER.WHERE IS YOUR FAMILY? WHERE WERE YOU BEFORE YOU WERE SLEEPING IN THE CAR? YOU KNOW, WHAT, WHAT IS THE SITUATION? AND SO THAT LOOKS LIKE TRANSPORTING A FAMILY TO ANOTHER FAMILY MEMBER OUTTA STATE.
IT LOOKS LIKE PROVIDING A DEPOSIT IN THREE MONTHS OF RENT.
IT LOOKS LIKE, OH, YOU'VE GOT A VOUCHER, BUT DON'T KNOW WHERE TO USE IT.
SO IT HELPS US SORT OF HELP THE BETTER OFF FOLKS, RIGHT? AND SAVE SHELTER FOR THE PEOPLE WHO REALLY HAVE NO OTHER CHOICE.
SO ALL OF THAT, UM, HAS HAPPENED AND TRANSPIRED DURING THAT PERIOD.
BUT NOW WE'RE AT THIS POINT WHERE, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO WE WERE IN 2019, DIVERTED 750 FAMILIES LAST YEAR.
SO WE WERE ABLE TO REALLY INVEST HEAVILY IN THAT.
UNFORTUNATELY, NEW FAMILIES REQUIRING SHELTER 384 IN 2019 UP TO 872 LAST YEAR.
SO WE DON'T HAVE THAT MUCH SHELTER SPACE.
SO OUR MODEL IS, WHICH WE DON'T TALK ABOUT PUBLICLY, BUT HERE WE ARE, IS WE OVERFLOW INTO HOTEL ROOMS WHEN WE MEET, WHEN A FAMILY NEEDS A SHELTER.
AND SO WE'VE ALSO BEEN HEAVILY INVESTING IN THAT.
SO WE'VE HAD, UM, THROUGH THE, THROUGH THE GENEROSITY OF OUR FRIEND, JEFF BEZOS GAVE US A BIG PILE OF MONEY IN 2019, WHICH WE'VE BEEN RIDING ON ALL THIS TIME.
UM, AND UNFORTUNATELY, HE NEVER GIVES TO THE SAME ORGANIZATION TWICE.
SO WE DON'T THINK WE'RE GONNA SEE THAT PILE OF MONEY ANYMORE, AND THE ARPA MONEY IS GONE.
SO OUR CONCERN NOW IS WE, WE FOUND THESE THINGS THAT WORK AND HAVE HAD THE INVESTMENTS IN THOSE, AND NOW THE, THOSE DOLLARS ARE GONE.
AND SO WHEN I COME BACK NEXT YEAR, WHICH I HOPE WE GET AN INVITATION BACK, IT MAY BE A VERY DIFFERENT PICTURE ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WE CAN SERVE WITH A SMALLER BUDGET.
SO, UM, AND THEN THERE IS ALSO A POPULATION OF PEOPLE JUST SO YOU KNOW, WHO CALL, WHO SAY THEY WANT SERVICES, BUT THEY WANT A VERY SPECIFIC THING.
AND IF WE CAN'T OFFER THEM THAT VERY SPECIFIC THING, THEY WANT NOTHING TO DO WITH US.
A VERY COMMON, A COMMON CALL OR WALK IN IS, I HEARD IF I COME TO FAMILY GATEWAY, I WILL GET A VOUCHER.
WE ARE NOT THE KEEPER OF THE VOUCHERS.
THEY DIDN'T REALLY WANT ANY OTHER SERVICE, SO THEY REALLY DIDN'T WANT EMERGENCY SERVICES.
SO THERE'S A POPULATION OF THOSE.
SO WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR THAT BECAUSE THEY MOVE ON THEIR WAY.
UM, LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
SO JUST WHO OUR FAMILIES ARE 78% AFRICAN AMERICAN, 78% HEADED BY A SINGLE FEMALE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD.
ALTHOUGH WE SERVE ALL TYPES OF FAMILIES, 23% HAVE SOMEONE IN THE HOUSEHOLD WITH DISABILITY.
THIS IS TYPICALLY A CHILD WITH SEVERE AUTISM.
WE HAVE KIDS WITH CANCER, WE HAVE KIDS WITH CEREBRAL PALSY, WE HAVE FAMILIES WITH THE HEAD OF HOUSEHOLD WHO'S HAD A STROKE.
YOU NAME IT, WE SEE IT, WE GOT 'EM.
UM, ONLY 4% OF FAMILIES CAN BE CLASSIFIED AS CHRONICALLY HOMELESS.
SO IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF WHAT YOU SEE IN INDIVIDUAL HOMELESSNESS, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MEET THAT THRESHOLD OF BEING UNSHELTERED OR SHELTERED FOR A YEAR PLUS A DISABILITY.
SO OUR FAMILIES ARE PERFECT TARGETS FOR RAPID REHOUSING, WHICH IS ANOTHER PLACE WHERE WE LIKE TO INVEST.
WE HAVE A VERY SMALL PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAM.
SO THE GAPS IN OUR SYSTEM ARE, OF COURSE, WE CAN'T GET TO ALL OF THEM.
WE CAN ONLY HELP THE MOST CRITICAL ONES.
WE CAN'T GET TO THOSE ONES WHO ARE IN THAT BROADER MCKINNEY-VENTO DEFINITION, ALTHOUGH THERE ARE PLENTY OF PEOPLE IN THIS COMMUNITY WHO WANT US TO GO THERE.
LIKE WE CAN'T EVEN HELP THE ONES, YOU KNOW, WE GOTTA, WE GOTTA FOCUS OUR RESOURCES.
IF WE HAD EXPANDED MONEY, WE WOULD KEEP GOING, RIGHT? UM, AND SO, AND WE ALSO DON'T HAVE ANY RESOURCES TO HELP THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE A CONNECTION TO OUR TWO COUNTY AREAS.
SO THIS IS WHERE WE SEND THEM BACK TO TARRANT COUNTY, SEND THEM BACK TO DENTON COUNTY, TELL THEM, DO NOT GET ON THAT PLANE FROM NEW YORK OR CHICAGO.
WE GET ALL THESE CALLS ALL THE TIME.
WHAT IF I JUST SHOW UP? WE'RE GONNA SEND YOU RIGHT BACK.
RIGHT? THAT'S WHAT WE TELL THEM.
SO DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE LEARNED THAT THESE THINGS HELPED HOUSING VOUCHERS THAT ARE PRIORITIZED AND ASSIGNED FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS RATHER THAN A LOTTERY BASE.
SO IF ANY OF YOU HAVE INFLUENCE OVER OUR VOUCHER SYSTEM AND HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON WHO THEY SHOULD BE ASSIGNED TO, WE WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE OF THOSE VOUCHERS ASSIGNED FOR FAMILIES AND INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE HOMELESS, RATHER THAN THEM GOING INTO THE POT OF ALL PEOPLE WHO FALL BELOW A CERTAIN INCOME AND GETTING RANDOMLY PICKED OUTTA THAT POT.
WE NEED MORE TARGETED RESOURCES.
THERE, THERE WILL BE, AFTER THIS ELECTION YEAR,
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THERE WILL BE ANOTHER OPPORTUNITY TO GET THAT CHILD TAX CREDIT BACK.AND SO YOU'LL SEE SOME COMMUNICATIONS FROM US NEXT YEAR ABOUT CONTACTING YOUR ELECTED OFFICIALS TO SAY YES TO THAT CHILD TAX CREDIT.
IT IS A BIPARTISAN AGREEMENT THAT DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE LIFTED 40 TO 50% OF CHILDREN OUT OF POVERTY BECAUSE OF THAT CREDIT.
AND WHAT HAPPENED WHEN IT ENDED, WE'RE RIGHT BACK IN.
THAT WOULD HELP US STOP THIS TREMENDOUS INFLOW AND HELP US MANAGE BETTER.
AND THEN WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR IN OUR COCI, I THINK IS PRIORITIZING, AND IT'S NEXT ROUND OF FUNDING MORE RAPID REHOUSING FOR FAMILIES.
AND, UM, ALSO DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE HAD RENTAL ASSISTANCE COMING FROM EVERY WHICH DIRECTION THAT'S GONE TOO.
SO WE NEED TO GET BACK WHAT WE CAN AND SHIFT FROM MORE GOVERNMENT TO MORE PRIVATE DOLLARS.
WE WERE ABOUT 50 50 GOVERNMENT PRIVATE DURING THE PANDEMIC.
WE'RE BACK NOW TO WHAT WE WERE PRE PANDEMIC, WHICH IS WE'RE RAISING 70% OF OUR FUNDS PRIVATELY.
AND UNFORTUNATELY, IT'S A BIGGER PIECE OF PIE THAT WE HAVE TO RAISE FOR.
BUT NOTHING REALLY CHANGES IN OUR COMMUNITY WITHOUT TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FAMILIES WHO EARN LESS THAN 60% OF THE A MI.
SO MOST OF OUR FAMILIES EARN 30% OF THE A MI THAT'S ABOUT AN 800 $900,000 A MONTH RENT PAYMENT.
IF YOU KNOW ABOUT WHERE THOSE ARE, PLEASE TELL ME THEY DON'T EXIST ANYMORE.
AND THEN I'LL JUST TAKE SOME QUESTIONS.
SO I'M GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR TO QUESTIONS.
I'M GONNA START IN VIRTUAL LAND, AND I SEE, UH, VICE CHAIR LETICIA OWENS WITH HER HAND RAISED.
WHEN, UH, WHEN YOU'RE, WHEN WE HEAR YOU UNMUTED, YOU WANNA GIVE A MIC CHECK? CAN HEAR ME? THERE YOU ARE.
THANK YOU MS. MAGNUS FOR THAT REPORT.
COULD YOU EXPLAIN TO ME, JUST ACT LIKE I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT YOU SAID, BUT WHAT MAKES UP A FAMILY? WHAT MAKES IT A FAMILY? WHAT MAKES UP A, THE DEFINITION OF FAMILY? YES.
WE, WE USED TO SAY SOMEONE OVER THE AGE OF 18 WHO HAS CARE AND CUSTODY FOR SOMEONE UNDER THE AGE OF 18.
BUT THEN WE FOUND OURSELVES MAKING EXCEPTIONS FOR THAT.
SUCH AS A MEDICALLY DISABLED, PERMANENTLY DISABLED, 21-YEAR-OLD, LIVING WITH A PARENT, WE'RE GONNA TAKE THEM.
WE ALSO HAVE MADE EXCEPTIONS TO THAT RULE WHEN IT'S A PREGNANT MOMMY WITH NO OTHER CHILDREN.
IF WE CAN'T FIND A MATERNITY SHELTER, WHICH WOULD BE IDEAL, THEN WE WILL SHIFT TO THAT.
OTHERWISE, WE DON'T CARE IF IT'S TWO MOMMIES, TWO DADDIES, A GRANDPA, A GRANDMA RAISING A GRANDKID.
AND SO IF A FATHER, FATHER AND HIS CHILD COMES IN, IS THAT CONSIDERED A FAMILY? ABSOLUTELY.
SINGLE PARENTS, MARRIED, UNMARRIED COUPLES WITH CHILDREN.
AND THAT'S, AND I'M, I'M GETTING CLARITY ON A SOMETHING SPECIFIC.
ARE YOU SAYING A FATHER BY HIMSELF WITHOUT A MOTHER? YOU TAKE THEM IN TOO WITH CHILDREN? OF COURSE.
I'M LOOKING OUT IN VIRTUAL LAND.
AND, UH, MS. ANGIE, DO YOU SEE ANYONE ELSE WITH THEIR HAND RAISED? OKAY.
UH, NO OTHER QUESTIONS FROM VIRTUAL LAND AND WE'RE MOVING TO CITY HALL.
I'M LOOKING TO MY RIGHT AND I'M GONNA START WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER SILHAN.
OH, WAIT, MAKE SURE YOUR MIC IS ON GA, IT'S FLASHING.
SO, UM, HOW MANY OF THE PEOPLE THAT, UH, USE YOUR SERVICES ARE FROM COLLIN COUNTY? WE'RE ABOUT 90% DALLAS.
90% DALLAS COUNTY, 10% COLLIN COUNTY.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE PERCENTAGES FOR ALL OF OUR SERVICES THAT ARE IN DALLAS, BECAUSE WE'RE THE ONLY PLACE THAT THEY CAN COME.
THERE'S NOT ANY SHELTERS IN COLLIN COUNTY, IS THAT CORRECT? WELL, WE HAVE A COLLIN COUNTY SHELTER DOWN.
HUH? WE HAVE A SHELTER IN COLLIN COUNTY.
IT'S IN THE CITY OF DALLAS, COLLIN COUNTY LATO, ISD.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION, AND NOBODY'S GONNA BE ABLE TO ANSWER IT, BUT I WOULD LOVE TO
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HAVE IT ANSWERED WHEN CHRISTINE CROSSLEY IS HERE, IS WHEN ARE WE GONNA BILL COLLIN COUNTY FOR THE SERVICES THAT WE ARE PROVIDING? IT'S NOT TENABLE TO ME THAT AS A, AS A TAX PAYING MEMBER OF DALLAS COUNTY, I'M PAYING FOR SERVICES THAT ARE BEING OFFERED THEIR, UH, RESIDENCE.SO THAT WOULD ALLEVIATE A LOT OF, OF THE FINANCIAL THING RIGHT HERE.
I DON'T KNOW WHERE MOST OF THEM GO, BUT I'M, I'M CURIOUS ABOUT THAT.
COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, OR, OR DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND RAISED? I, OKAY, WE'LL, WE'LL GO WITH YOU.
SO I WAS THINKING WHEN YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THIS, IT SEEMS TO ME HOW WOULD YOU, HOW MUCH OF THIS IS A POLICY DECISION? HOW MUCH OF HOMELESSNESS IS, IT'S ALL A POLICY DECISION, IT'S A LACK OF POLICY, OR IT'S CHOOSING POLICY.
WE SAW POLICIES THAT WORKED DURING THE PANDEMIC, WE'RE NOW CHOOSING NOT TO HAVE THOSE POLICIES.
WE'RE JUST CHOOSING NOT TO DO THAT.
WE JUST DON'T CHOOSE TO PUT IT THERE.
I MEAN, WE SAW NUMBERS GO DOWN DURING THE PANDEMIC.
PEOPLE SEEKING SERVICES WENT DOWN.
AND YOU CAN ACTUALLY SEE, IT'S NOT IN THE YEAR YEARLY DATA, BUT YOU CAN SEE IN THE MONTH BY MONTH DATA WHEN POLICIES WERE PUT IN PLACE AND WHEN THEY LIFTED.
'CAUSE OUR NUMBERS WENT DOWN WHEN THESE POLICIES WERE PUT IN PLACE AND WENT RIGHT BACK UP WHEN THOSE POLICIES LEFT.
SO HOMELESSNESS IS A POLICY ISSUE WITHOUT QUESTION.
COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
I JUST, FIRST A COMPLIMENT, UM, I'VE RECENTLY BEEN ABLE TO VISIT THE NEW, UH, CAMPUS, UM, WHICH IS VERY DIFFERENT FROM THE PREVIOUS CAMPUS.
UM, AND IS INCREDIBLY WARM, EXCUSE ME.
AND, UM, JUST WANNA COMPLIMENT YOU ON ALL THE INCREDIBLE WORK THAT YOU'VE BEEN DOING FOR FAMILIES IN, IN DALLAS AND COLLIN COUNTIES.
UM, MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS ABOUT THE VOUCHER DECISIONS, BECAUSE YOU ASKED US TO HELP GUIDE THOSE DECISIONS.
SO HOW CAN WE DO THAT? SO WHO MAKES THEM? SO THOSE ARE POLICY LEVEL DECISIONS MADE BY PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES.
AND SO WE HAVE A DALLAS COUNTY PUBLIC PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WE HAVE A DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY.
WE HAVE A GRAND PRAIRIE HOUSING AUTHORITY, YOU NAME IT, WE HAVE THEM.
IT'S A POLICY DECISION OF WHERE TO ALLOCATE THOSE VOUCHERS.
AND SO THE WAY THAT IT TYPICALLY WORKS IS THEY OPEN UP A LIST.
ANYBODY WHO'S BENEATH A CERTAIN INCOME CAN GO AND GET THEMSELVES ADDED TO THE LIST.
AND THEN WHEN THEY HAVE VOUCHERS AVAILABLE, THEY DRAW FROM THE LIST AND IT'S A LOTTERY.
AND SO WHAT, WHAT WE SAW DURING THE PANDEMIC IS THERE WERE SPECIFIC, THERE WAS A SPECIFIC BATCH OF VOUCHERS THAT WERE DESIGNATED FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, WHICH HELPED US MOVE PEOPLE OUT OF HOMELESSNESS QUICKLY, GET THEM A VOUCHER AND MOVE ON.
SO WE COULD MAKE A POLICY, POLICY DECISION AT THE PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITY LEVEL THAT WE WANT A, A DEDICATED ALLOCATION OF VOUCHERS, NOT IN THE LOTTERY.
IT COULD BE IN A, A DIFFERENT LOTTERY FOR ANYBODY WHO'S HOMELESS, BUT NOT IN THE GENERAL LOTTERY.
SO WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS, IT'S HERE.
THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO ARE ABOUT TO BE HOMELESS OR WHO ARE PRECARIOUSLY HOUSED IS HERE.
AND THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO FIT THE CRITERIA TO GET A VOUCHER IS HERE.
AND SO I WANT SOME TARGETED, THAT'S A POLICY DECISION.
UH, FIRST OF ALL, COMMISSIONER EINSTEIN, WAS THAT YOUR OKAY.
UH, WE'LL GO WITH COMMISSIONER JACOB.
AS A RESIDENT OF DISTRICT 12, WHERE FAMILY GATEWAY IS, UH, I CAN ONLY APPLAUD, UH, THE WORK OF ELLEN MAGNUS AND FAMILY GATEWAY FOR THE IMPACT THAT THEY'RE HAVING IN, UH, OUR COMMUNITY WITH RESPECT TO, UH, FAMILY HOMELESSNESS.
SO, UH, KUDOS TO YOU AND CONTINUED, UH, GREAT WORK TO YOU IN THE FUTURE.
MY BIGGEST QUESTION IS, I MEAN, OR I GUESS TWO QUESTIONS.
ONE, UM, THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, WHAT ARE THE GREATEST PAIN POINTS THAT, UH, FAMILY GATEWAY AND OTHERS, UH, IN SIMILAR SITUATIONS MIGHT BE FACING THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO US, UH, AS WE, UH,
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CONTINUE TO, UH, ADVISE AS BEST WE CAN FROM A POLICY MAKING DECISION.BUT SECONDLY, DO YOU SEE FAMILY GATEWAY OR A SIMILAR, UM, UH, SIMILAR, UH, ORGANIZATION BEING SCALABLE ACROSS OTHER AREAS OF DALLAS? THANK YOU FOR THOSE QUESTIONS.
AND, AND COMMISSIONER JACOBS IS ON MY GOOD NEIGHBOR TASK FORCE FOR FAMILY GATEWAY NORTH, WHICH IS A GROUP THAT'S BEEN PUT TOGETHER TO DEAL WITH NEIGHBORHOOD COMPLAINTS.
AND THEY ARE BORED OUTTA THEIR MINDS BECAUSE THE NEIGHBORHOOD HAS, HAS WELCOMED US SO INCREDIBLY.
AND BECAUSE WE ARE TUCKED AWAY AND NOBODY KNOWS WHERE WE ARE, IT'S PERFECT.
SO THESE KINDS OF LOCATIONS THAT ARE NOT IN PLAIN SIGHT, THAT ARE HIDDEN AWAY, THAT DON'T GET ANYBODY'S, YOU KNOW? YEAH.
AND WE GOT A YES IN MY BACKYARD FROM THIS COMMUNITY, AND OUR, OUR COUNCIL MEMBER DID A BEAUTIFUL JOB WITH THAT.
PAIN POINTS ARE ESCALATING NUMBERS OF FAMILIES NEEDING CARE WITH DECREASING DOLLARS TO SUPPORT THEM.
AND THEN THE POLICY DECISIONS ARE ONES THAT, THAT WE, WE TALKED ABOUT, WHICH IS DEDICATED VOUCHERS, MORE RAPID REHOUSING, AND, UM, GETTING THAT CHILD TAX CREDIT BACK.
WE CAN'T SHELTER OUR WAY OUT OF THINGS.
SO WOULD THERE BE OPPORTUNITIES TO HAVE OTHER SHELTERS? YES.
BUT IT'S THE MOST EXPENSIVE INTERVENTION WE OFFER.
SO WE ARE, IN ADDITION TO BEING WHERE WE ARE IN COLLIN COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS, COLLIN COUNTY, WE'RE ALSO INSIDE THE SALVATION ARMY.
THEY'RE ABOUT TO BUILD A GIGANTIC NEW CAMPUS THAT WILL HAVE A BIGGER FAMILY PRESENCE.
SO WE WE'RE CO-LOCATED INSIDE OF THEM.
NOW WE'LL BE CO-LOCATED INSIDE OF THEM WHEN THEY GROW BIGGER.
SO THERE WILL BE MORE SPACE THERE.
UH, DR. WONG, UM, BROUGHT IT UP IN TERMS OF THE PIT COUNT AND BEING A BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UH, PROVIDER.
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE PIT COUNT IS AN ACCURATE REPRESENTATION OF THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS IN DALLAS? SO THE PIT COUNT IS WHAT IT IS.
IT'S THE, EVERY DATA SET HAS ITS LIMITATIONS.
I CAN TELL YOU THAT YOU CAN'T COUNT THE FAMILIES DURING THE PET COUNT.
ALL YOU CAN COUNT ARE THE ONES THAT ARE SHELTERED OR WHO WE KNOW WE'RE PAYING FOR IN A HOTEL.
IS THAT ALL THERE IS? NO, BUT WE KNOW THOSE ARE THE LIMITATIONS OF THAT COUNT.
SO EVERY DATA SET HAS ITS PLUSES AND MINUSES.
IT IS JUST AN INDICATOR OF HOW THINGS ARE GOING.
BUT WHAT, WHAT COULD THE CITY OF DALLAS AND SPECIFICALLY OHS DO ABOVE AND BEYOND A ONE POINT IN TIME COUNT ON THE NUMBER OF HOMELESS TO GET A MORE ACCURATE DEPICTION? LOOK AT, LOOK AT THE NEW ENROLLMENTS IN HMIS EVERY YEAR.
AND THANK YOU COMMISSIONER JACOB.
I JUST SPEAK BECAUSE THAT QUESTION, DIRECTOR OF OHS, UM, THIS IS CHRISTINE.
CHRISTINE CROSLEY, DIRECTOR OF OHS.
SORRY, I CAN'T BE WITH HER WITH YOU GUYS TODAY.
I WAS UNDER THE WEATHER AND DIDN'T WANNA SHARE, UM,
BUT AS I'VE UH, SAID IN HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE, AND AS ELLEN JUST SAID, UH, WE AS A CONTINUUM OF CARE ARE LOOKING AT HOW TO INTEGRATE THE HMIS ENROLLMENTS AND THE PIT DATA SO THAT WE HAVE, UM, A MORE ROBUST DATA SET.
OF COURSE, HMIS DATA BY ITSELF IS THE SAME AS HIT DATA BY ITSELF, RIGHT? THESE REFLECT DIFFERENT THINGS.
AND SO WE'RE WORKING ON HOW WE INTEGRATE THOSE.
SO JUST LIKE THE DATA I PRESENTED, THESE ARE THE FAMILIES WHO CAME THROUGH OUR ACCESS POINT.
ARE THERE MORE FAMILIES OUT THERE WITHOUT QUESTION.
BUT THESE ARE THE DATA THAT WE HAVE THAT WE CAN LOOK OVER TIME.
SO EVERY DATA SET WILL ALWAYS HAVE ITS NUANCES AND IT'S NEVER GOING TO BE COMPLETE.
SO YOU JUST HAVE TO LOOK AT IT AS WHAT IT OFFERS YOU AND NOT, UM, NOT THINK IT IS LIKE DO I BELIEVE THERE ARE MORE FAMILIES OUT THERE WHO HAVEN'T COME TO US? 100%.
UM, LOOKING TO MY LEFT AND I SEE, UM, COMMISSIONER REVEREND MITCHELL BOONE.
UM, FAMILY GATEWAY DOES INCREDIBLE WORK.
UH, YOUR LEADERSHIP THOUGH, DURING, UH, A PARTICULARLY CHALLENGING TIME FOR, UH, HOMEOWNER HOMELESSNESS IN, IN GENERAL, BUT ALSO WITH FAMILIES POST PANDEMIC IS COMMENDABLE.
YOU'VE BEEN WATCHING FROM AFAR.
UH, Y'ALL DO, UH, EXCELLENT WORK ON THIS.
UH, QUESTION OF DATA, JUST YOUR ESTIMATION.
WE KNOW THAT THERE, UH, THIS TOTAL OF TARGET FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES ON THE SLIDE YOU SHOWED AT US, UH, 31 90 WAS AT TOTAL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS SERVED IN 2023.
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OF THAT NUMBER, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU THINK THAT IS OF THE TOTAL NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS, UH, WHO WOULD BENEFIT FROM YOUR SERVICES IN YOUR SERVICE AREA? I'M NOT QUITE CLEAR ON YOUR QUESTION.SO YOU'RE ASKING ME OF THE TARGET FOR EMERGENCY SERVICES? 31 90.
THE TOTAL 31 90 OF THE NUMBER OF INDIVIDUALS YOU SERVED TO.
WE SHELTERED 872 AND ABOUT A THOUSAND OF THEM ONE SOMETHING SPECIFIC WE COULDN'T OFFER.
SO IF YOU FLIP TO THAT NEXT SLIDE, YOU COULD SEE THE BREAKDOWN OF WHAT HAPPENED TO THOSE 3,100, ALTHOUGH I THINK I HAVE A 31 0 9, 31 90 ISSUE THERE.
MOST OF THEM WERE DIVERTED AND THEN 872 FAMILIES REQUIRED SHELTER.
I'LL ASK THE QUESTION THEN, USING THE 8 72 NUMBER OF THOSE 872 YEAH.
NEW FAMILIES REQUIRING SHELTER OVERFLOW, UM, WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU THINK THAT IS OF FAMILIES THAT WOULD QUALIFY FOR, UH, WOULD QUALIFY AS A NEW FAMILY REQUIRING SHELTER, UM, IN YOUR SERVICE AREA? WHAT PERCENTAGE DO YOU THINK THAT IS? ALL OF THEM.
I MEAN, THOSE WERE THE FAMILIES THAT WE SERVED.
BEYOND THE FAMILIES YOU SERVED, HOW MANY FAMILIES ARE NOT GETTING SERVICES THROUGH FAMILY GATEWAY? I COULD.
IS THERE ANY WAY TO ESTIMATE THAT? NO.
HAVE YOU SEEN ANY SENSE OF, SO THE PIP COUNT'S NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THAT DATA FOR YOU AND THERE'S REALLY NO OTHER MECHANISM AND COMMISSIONER, THAT'S YOUR TIME? NOT REALLY.
WE DON'T KNOW 'EM IF WE DON'T KNOW HIM.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR QUESTION.
AND WE'RE GONNA GO BACK TO VIRTUAL LAND TO COMMISSIONER T.
AND I DO WANNA SAY THIS IS AN AWESOME PRESENTATION.
UM, I DO HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT HOW MANY PEOPLE WOULD YOU SAY ARE TRAVELING TO DALLAS FOR SERVICES? WE ACTUALLY TRACK THAT BECAUSE WE TURN 'EM RIGHT BACK AROUND.
WE, WE'VE TRACKED THAT OVER THE YEARS.
UM, IT'S NOT AS MUCH AS YOU WOULD THINK.
UM, AND WE, AND WE HAVE A VERY HARD AND FAST, IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANY CONNECTION TO DALLAS OR COLLIN COUNTY, WE'RE HAPPY TO SEND YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO GO, BUT WE'RE NOT PAYING FOR YOU.
AND THAT GETS US IN TROUBLE WITH SOME PEOPLE SOMETIMES.
I WILL SAY, YEAH, I WOULD WANNA KNOW THAT BECAUSE THAT CAN ALSO ATTEST TO SOME OF THE, I'M IN DISTRICT SEVEN, SO THAT WOULD ATTEST TO SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE JU THAT JUST SHOW LACK OF PLACEMENT THAT ARE NOT NA CONSIDERED TO BE NATIVE TO THE AREA.
AND THEN MY NEXT QUESTION WOULD BE, WHAT IS THE TIMEFRAME PLACEMENT OF YOU GUYS, UM, AND THE VOUCHER SYSTEM? SO I KNOW IT'S A, IT'S TOUGH CALLS WITH, UM, HOW THE VOUCHERS ARE COMING IN NOW, BUT ONCE YOU GUYS GET THEM AND PEOPLE ARE INTO YOUR PROGRAM, HOW FAST DOES IT NORMALLY TAKE THEM TO RECEIVE A VOUCHER? WE, WE HAVE NO CONNECTION TO VOUCHERS.
AND THE VOUCHERS ARE ON A LOTTERY SYSTEM.
IF YOU WANNA KNOW HOW, HOW LONG PEOPLE STAY IN SHELTER BEFORE THEY'RE HOUSED, THAT'S A DIFFERENT QUESTION.
SO OUR AVERAGE LENGTH OF, YEAH, OUR AVERAGE LENGTH OF STAY DURING THE PANDEMIC WAS 60 DAYS.
UM, AND FAMILIES WILL EXIT TO SHORT TERM RENTAL ASSISTANCE FROM US.
THEY MIGHT EXIT TO, UH, RAPID REHOUSING, BUT THERE'S NO CONNECTION BETWEEN COMING TO FAMILY GATEWAY AND RECEIVING A VOUCHER.
THE VOUCHER SYSTEM IS ON A LOTTERY BASIS, WHICH IS NOT CONNECTED TO THE HOMELESS RESPONSE SYSTEM.
DOES THAT HELP? AND THAT, SO THAT'S, IT DOES, BUT IT SPARKS A WHOLE NEW QUESTION.
WHAT, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP ASSIST WITH THAT? IS THAT'S MORE OF A POLICY THING, CORRECT? IT IS, MA'AM.
UH, IF, IF YOU HAVE ANY INFLUENCE OVER PUBLIC HOUSING AUTHORITIES, WE WOULD LOVE TO GET VOUCHERS THAT ARE DEDICATED TO THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS.
IT WOULD HELP US MOVE THEM THROUGH AND GET THEM REHOUSED MUCH MORE QUICKLY.
HOW MANY VOUCHERS WOULD YOU SAY YOU WERE ABLE TO GIVE OUT? TIME.
I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE THE END OF ROUND ONE FOR, UM, QUESTIONS.
AND WE'RE NOT GONNA DO ROUND TWO BECAUSE WE ARE RUNNING BEHIND TIME.
IT'S, I ALWAYS WASN'T TOO LONG.
I MEAN, HER QUESTION WAS SPOKEN AND THAT IT'S A PRETTY, I DIDN'T HEAR IT.
BASE NUMBER OF VOUCHERS HAVE YOU GIVEN OUT? UH, WE DON'T HAVE ANY.
THEY DON'T VOUCHERS GIVE OUT VOUCHERS.
SO WE'RE GONNA, UM, WE, THAT'LL, THAT'S, I JUST WANTED TO GET THAT ON RECORD.
UM, ELLEN, THANK YOU SO MUCH BEING HERE.
WE ALWAYS LEARN SOMETHING NEW.
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ARE THE GOAT HERE IN DALLAS, SO, UH, WITH ALL DUE RESPECT.SO WE'RE GONNA MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, THIS IS ITEM SIX, OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS AGENDA, CONTRACT FORECAST FOR SEPTEMBER, 2024.
COUNCIL AGENDA ITEMS AND PROPERTY UPDATE.
THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY CHRISTINE CROSSLEY, DIRECTOR OF OFFICE OF HOMELESS SOLUTIONS.
CHRISTINE, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
MY VIDEO IS SLOW, BUT YOU GUYS CAN SEE AND HEAR ME, CORRECT? YES, MA'AM.
WELL, FOR THE CONTRACTS, WE'RE A BIT WAYS INTO ONE.
SO YOU'LL SEE THAT THE FIRST, UM, THE FIRST PAGE ARE ONES FROM, UH, FROM LAST WEEK FROM, OR TWO WEEKS AGO FROM NINE 11.
UM, SO JUST RUN OF THE MILL, UH, CONTRACTS FOR EMERGENCY SERVICE, UH, EMERGENCY SERVICE GRANTS, UH, AND THEN THE DALLAS COUNTY ILA, UH, THAT IS THE NORMAL 1 MILLION PASS THROUGH FOR THE BRIDGE GOT, UM, DEFERRED TO 9 25.
UH, THAT'S BECAUSE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A FINALIZED AMOUNT YET, SO THEY WEREN'T SURE WHAT IT WAS GONNA BE.
UM, AND I'M HAPPY TO SAY THAT NOW THAT IT'S BECAUSE THEY WERE INCREASING IT.
SO ACTUALLY ON TUESDAY OF THIS WEEK, THE COUNTY VOTED ON THEIR BUDGET AND APPROVED A TOTAL OF 1.3 MILLION FOR THE BRIDGE.
SO THEN YESTERDAY, UH, THE CITY, DALLAS CITY BUDGET WAS APPROVED WITH AN ADDITIONAL 300,000 IN IT TO REFLECT THAT 300,000.
SO THAT WHAT WE PASS THROUGH TO THE BRIDGE ON THE 25TH, UH, WILL ACTUALLY BE, UH, I THINK IT'S 5.7 TOTAL.
AND YOU'LL SEE THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT PAGE TWO, THE BRIDGE.
SO TWO THINGS WILL HAPPEN ON, UM, ON THE 25TH WE'LL HAVE THE BRIDGE RENEWAL CON, THE BRIDGE CONTRACT, WHICH IS JUST SECOND YEAR ON THE BRIDGE CONTRACT.
UH, AND YOU CAN SEE THAT IT WAS, YEAH, IT WAS INCREASED FROM 4.51 TO, UM, 4.798.
AND SO A HUNDRED AND SIXTY FOUR, TWO HUNDRED FIFTY OF THAT IS THE CITY'S BUDGET INCREASING.
UH, ITS PAY TO STAY SHELTER BED COST.
SO THIS IS FOR THE SAME PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE BEFORE, BUT INSTEAD OF $12, WE NOW PAY $21.
AND THAT'S ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN HELPING OUT THE SAME AMOUNT TO THOSE 50 PEOPLE FOR THE PAST SIX YEARS.
SO, VERY HAPPY THAT THEY DID THAT.
AND THEN SIMILARLY, THAT, UH, ADDITIONAL 300,000 IS JUST IN THE MASTER AGREEMENT FROM THE COUNTY.
AND THAT'S NOT, UH, NECESSARILY NEW SERVICES.
THIS IS JUST ADJUSTING FOR INFLATION.
UM, I THINK A COMMENT WAS MADE YESTERDAY THAT, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS VERY HAPPY ABOUT THAT.
OBVIOUSLY WE WANNA KEEP LOOKING AT, UH, ADDITIONAL WAYS TO INCREASE THAT FUNDING TO THE BRIDGE FROM THE COUNTY.
SO THEN THE ACTUAL BRIDGE CONTRACT ITSELF WILL BE, UM, UP ON 9 25 FOR CONSIDERATION AS WELL.
ACCEPTANCE OF THE COUNTY DOLLARS, BECAUSE THAT WAS DEFERRED TO 9 25 FROM NINE 11 BECAUSE WE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT THE COUNTY WAS GONNA DO YET.
UM, THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE, UH, A CONTRACT FOR AUSTIN STREET GOING ON 9 25.
UH, THAT'S YEAR TWO OF ONE OF THEIR CONTRACTS.
AND THEN, UM, WE HAVE SUPPORTIVE SERVICES FOR SENIORS.
THAT'S 250,000 THAT'S, UH, SUPPORTS RENT FOR THEM AT THEIR SENIORS FACILITY.
AND THEN, AS I SAID, THE LAST ONE THAT YOU'LL SEE THERE IS ACCEPTANCE OF THE DALLAS COUNTY ILA, UM, BECAUSE THE ITEM WAS DEFERRED, WE CAN'T CHANGE THE AMOUNT, BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE ACTUAL AGENDA ITEM ITSELF, UH, YOU WILL SEE THAT IT IS, UH, IT SAYS 1.3 NOW.
ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GONNA OPEN FORWARD TO QUESTIONS ON THESE AGENDA ITEMS. ANY COMMISSIONERS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THE UPCOMING AGENDA ITEMS FOR THE 25TH? I'M NOT SEEING ANY AT CITY HALL.
UM, ANGIE, IS THERE ANYONE IN WEBEX? OKAY.
WE CAN MOVE ON TO THE, UH, THE PROPERTY UPDATE.
I KNOW THAT WHAT WAS SENT TO YOU GUYS WAS LAST MONTH, SO I REQUESTED THAT WE UPDATE IT TO THE CURRENT ONE SINCE WE'RE SO CLOSE TO HHS NOW, UM, WHICH WAS THE INTENT OF MOVING THIS MEETING, THAT WE CAN TRY AND DO THINGS A BIT LESS ANACHRONISTIC.
WE CAN GET THINGS TO YOU GUYS AND PROPER CADENCE.
SO THIS IS WHAT WE'LL BE GOING TO HHS ON MONDAY.
AND IT'S JUST A UPDATE ON THE FOUR PROPERTIES THAT WE HAVE, UM, FOR FORT WORTH AVENUE KNOWN AS MIRAMAR ON PAGE ONE.
UM, VERY HAPPY TO SAY THAT THAT IS UNDER WELL UNDERWAY.
UM, THERE'S A LOT OF DIFFERENT, UH, DESIGN COLLABORATION GOING ON WITH THE ARCHITECTS AND, UH, ST.
JUDE AND WITH THE COMMUNITY, AND I BELIEVE THAT WE ARE WORKING ON AS A CITY,
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UM, CONVEYING THAT PROPERTY TO THEM.UH, IN, I THINK IT WAS ORIGINALLY NOVEMBER.
UM, AND THAT HAD BEEN REQUESTED BY ST.
JUDE, SO THEY WOULD HAVE MORE TIME TO JUST WORK ON THE FUNDING SIDE AND GET THE, UM, GET ALL OF THAT SECURED.
AND THEN OF COURSE, THE BED TOTALS WILL BE HIGHER.
RIGHT NOW WE JUST HAVE THE 72 BECAUSE THAT'S PRE REDESIGNED.
SO WHEN THEY'RE READY TO RELEASE THE DESIGN, WE'LL HAVE THAT.
AND THEN OF COURSE, ESTIMATED RESIDENT MOVE IN FEBRUARY TO MARCH OF 2026 WOULD BE TOTAL, UH, ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE.
CHRISTMAS OF NEXT ONE, WE GO TO INDEPENDENCE.
UM, HERE, WE JUST CLOSED OUR FIRST ROUND, EXCUSE ME, UH, JUST CLOSED OUR FIRST ROUND OF, UH, NOTICE OF FUNDING APPLICATION SUBMISSIONS.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY FUNDING SUBMISSION.
WE DIDN'T HAVE ANY SUBMISSIONS
UM, WE'VE REPOSTED IT FOR AN ADDITIONAL 60 DAYS TO DO OUR DUE DILIGENCE ON THAT, JUST TO BE, YOU KNOW, WAS IT THAT THERE WASN'T SUFFICIENT NOTICE? DID PEOPLE NOT KNOW WHAT WAS THE ISSUE? WAS THERE A DETRACTOR THAT MAYBE SOMETHING WASN'T AS ATTRACTIVE THAT WE COULD TWEAK? UM, SO THEN THAT WILL CLOSE NOVEMBER 18TH.
AND THEN ESTIMATED COMPLETION DATE FOR THAT, OF COURSE, CHANGE BASED ON WHAT WE GET IN THE NOFA, UM, IS JANUARY OF 2026 WITH RESIDENT MARCH, 2026.
AND THEN THE LAST ONE, THIS IS ACTUALLY, OH, EXCUSE ME, THERE'S TWO MORE.
VANTAGE POINT HAS NO OHS DOLLARS, SO IT SHOULDN'T SAY OHS LED.
BUT O UM, HHS ASKS US TO REPORT ON IT BECAUSE IT DID HAVE 3 MILLION HOUSING DOLLARS IN ITS, UM, IN ITS DEVELOPMENT PHASE.
AND THIS ONE IS, I BELIEVE THEY HAVE ABOUT, LET ME SEE, THEY'RE COMPLETELY RENOVATED AND THEY'RE WORKING ON LEASING UP.
IT LOOKS LIKE AS OF THIS TIME, THERE ARE 58 ROOMS LEFT TO LEASE.
25 OF THOSE, UM, ARE PROJECT BASED VOUCHERS FROM DALLAS HOUSING AUTHORITY.
SO THEY'RE WORKING WITH THE HOUSING AND, UH, COMMUNITY, UH, REVITALIZATION DEPARTMENT TO GET THE, UM, ENVIRONMENTALS DONE SO THEY CAN GET THAT SO THEY CAN, CAN GET PEOPLE MATCHED THOSE.
AND THEN THE LAST 1, 29 29 SOUTH HAND DRIVE IS GOING TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS ON MONDAY FOR A DISCUSSION AND CLOSED SESSION ON NEXT OPTIONS BY THE COUNCIL AND CUNY MEMBER.
WE'RE GONNA OPEN THE FLOOR TO QUESTIONS.
CITY HALL, ANYONE HERE? OKAY, WE'RE GONNA DO COMMISSIONER HOWICK TWO MINUTES.
UH, CHAIR GAR AND THANK YOU CHRISTINE CROSSLEY.
I'M, I'M A LITTLE CONCERNED WHEN I SEE THIS THAT I DON'T SEE A LOT OF NEW BEDS COMING ON THE HORIZON ANYTIME SOON.
WE'RE TALKING 25, 26 FOR THE, THE BEST OPTIONS.
UM, BUT I FEEL LIKE WE GO OUT THERE AND, AND, AND SING A LOVE SONG ABOUT HOW DALLAS IS DOING THIS AMAZING JOB WITH HOMELESS PEOPLE AND PROVIDING HOUSING.
THERE'S SOMETHING NOT MATCHING UP IN MY MIND.
I'M STRUGGLING WITH HOW WE CAN BE TWO YEARS OUT ON MORE BEDS, AND YET WE'RE SOLVING THE PROBLEM.
I MEAN, IT'S JUST NOT COMING TOGETHER SOMEWHERE THE, THE, THE MELODIES OFF, YOU KNOW? SO JUST CURIOUS.
YEAH, AND I'M, I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION.
SO THESE ARE BEDS THAT THE CITY IS IN HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN PROPERTY WISE.
UM, THERE'S SUBJECT TO THE MARKET AND WHAT THE MARKET WILL BEAR GRANTED, SOME OF THESE PROPERTIES, UM, HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR A MINUTE, FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO'VE BEEN HERE LONGER OR HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION, AND THEY'VE HAD SOME HICCUPS.
AND SO WE'RE HAPPY THAT THEY'RE UNDERWAY NOW, BUT IT HAS BEEN A LONG PROBLEM.
AND SOME HAVE HAD, UH, COUNCIL DELIBERATION, COMMUNITY DELIBERATION THAT'S TAKEN LONGER.
BUT THIS IS JUST A PORTION OF OVERALL CONTINUUM OF CARE.
UM, THE MAJORITY OF THE UNITS, WHEN WE SAY THAT OVER 12,000 INDIVIDUAL PLACEMENTS, HOUSING PLACEMENTS HAVE BEEN MADE, AND I THINK NOW IT'S ACTUALLY OVER 12,700.
UM, YOU'RE LOOKING AT ACCESS TO THE PRIVATE MARKET OR TO, UH, SUSTAIN PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING WHERE IT'S NEEDED, UM, AND, UM, EXISTING PROPERTIES.
SO YES, THIS WILL BRING MORE HOUSING ONLINE THAT IS NEEDED.
UM, DO WE WISH IT COULD GO FASTER? ABSOLUTELY.
BUT THIS IS REFLECTIVE OF THE MARKET, UM, AND CONSTRUCTION TIMELINES, BUT IT'S NOT A SIGNIFIER OF, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT, IT'S NOT APPLES TO ORANGES.
I WOULDN'T SAY THAT THIS IS A REFLECTION OF THOSE 12,000 PLUS INDIVIDUAL HOUSING PLACEMENT.
AND I THINK MY FOLLOW ON TO THAT IS HOW DO WE IMPROVE THIS LONG TIMELINE? BECAUSE THIS IS, I HAVE FRIENDS WHO JUST STRUGGLE WITH THE MIRA BAR, HAVE WATCHED THAT PLACE SIT AND WAIT AND WAIT AND WAIT.
I'M NOT A LONG-TERM RESIDENT OF DALLAS.
IT FEELS LIKE IT JUST TAKES TOO
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LONG.SO WHAT, WHAT ARE WE DOING TO TRY TO COMBAT THAT? UH, THAT IS A GREAT QUESTION.
AND I CAN TELL YOU THAT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE ARE DOING IS NOT BUYING ANY MORE PROPERTIES.
THAT IS NOT, THAT IS NOT OUR SUBJECT MATTER EXPERTISE.
WE HAVE MANY THINGS THAT WE'RE GOOD AT.
I WOULDN'T SAY THAT'S ONE OF THEM.
UM, AND YOU CAN REALLY SEE THE SHIFT IN POLICY IN THAT, BECAUSE WHEN WE WENT OUT FOR BOND DOLLARS AND GOT 19 MILLION IN BOND DOLLARS, WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT WHAT PROJECTS YOU'RE DOING, THE MAIN THING THAT WE TALKED ABOUT WAS, WELL, WE WANNA DO PSH NOFA DOLLARS SO THAT WE CAN GO THROUGH HOUSING TO HAVE MONEY FOR A STANDING NOTICE OF FUNDING AVAILABILITY, JUST FOR THOSE DEVELOPERS WHO WANNA DO PERMANENT HOUSING AND THEY CAN COME HERE AND GET SOME FUNDS, BUT THEN THEY HAVE TO DO THIS WORK.
THEY HAVE TO CREATE THIS SPACE BECAUSE THE PRIVATE MARKET'S ALWAYS GONNA GO FASTER.
SO WE ARE REALLY HAPPY TO BE IN THE FUNDING CATEGORY, AND WE WILL HELP GIVE YOU THAT SEED FUNDING, BUT WE DON'T WANNA BUILD IT FOR YOU.
UH, WE'LL GO WITH, UH, COMMISSIONER REVEREND MITCHELL BOONE, DIRECTOR CROSLEY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.
UM, OBVIOUSLY HOPE YOU FEEL BETTER.
UM, JUST A QUICK QUESTION, SORT OF TRYING TO GET AT, UM, AT PROJECTING NEED, RIGHT? AND IT SEEMS OBVIOUSLY USING THE PIP NUMBERS AND, UH, IS, IS A, WE CAN LOOK BACKWARDS AND SEE HOW WE'RE DOING.
UM, BUT I'M CURIOUS IF, IF OHS USES ANY PUBLIC DATA, UH, TO PROJECT FORWARD, WHAT NEED WILL BE EMPLOYMENT RATES, SCHOOL ENROLLMENT, UM, HOUSING COSTS, IS THERE ANYTHING, UM, THAT OHS IS USING TO PROJECT FORWARD? SO WE MAY GET TO A PLACE WHERE WE'RE ANTICIPATING NEED AND BUILDING HOUSING, HOUSING IN ANTICIPATION AND NOT REACTING TO NUMBERS.
JUST CURIOUS MORE THAN ANYTHING.
IF THERE'S A METHODOLOGY I'LL USE, UM, THAT IS A FANTASTIC QUESTION.
AND I SAY THAT BECAUSE ACTUALLY HOUSING AND COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION IS GONNA BE PRESENTING SOME NEW DATA ON MONDAY THAT REALLY IS KIND OF THEIR BREAD AND BUTTER.
SO, UM, I URGE YOU TO, TO PAY ATTENTION TO THAT.
BUT OF COURSE, WE WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE SEND YOU GUYS ALL OF THE PRESENTATION FROM THAT DAY.
UM, I ALSO CAN SAY THAT SOMETHING THAT, YOU KNOW, SOMETHING THAT I THINK ALL OF THE SYSTEMS AND HOMELESSNESS ARE LOOKING AT, AS ELLEN SAID, IS GETTING AT THAT UPSTREAM FACTOR.
WE KNOW WHAT WORKED DURING COVID, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE DATA THAT SHOWS WHAT WORKS.
AND SO INCOMING BACK FROM THAT, THERE ARE WAYS THAT WE CAN TARGET IN TERMS OF TALKING ABOUT, WELL, WHAT DATA INDICATES SOMEONE WHO'S ABOUT TO FALL INTO HOMELESSNESS.
MEDICAL DEBT IS GREAT INDICATOR.
UM, ANY EVICTIONS ON THE HORIZON, THAT'S A GREAT INDICATOR.
SO THERE ARE INDICATORS THAT WE CAN LOOK AT ACROSS THE VARIOUS SYSTEMS. NOW, SOME OF THOSE SYSTEMS ARE NOT CITY SYSTEMS, SO THERE THEREIN LIES A BARRIER IN MORE CONVERSATIONS.
BUT THERE ARE CITIES WHO HAVE PULLED THAT DATA TOGETHER AND TARGETED THOSE INDIVIDUALS IN A WAY THAT HAS DRASTICALLY REDUCED THE NUMBER OF PEOPLE FALLING INTO HOMELESSNESS.
IT'S JUST A CONVERSATION ABOUT WHAT DOES THAT DATA LOOK LIKE FOR US AND WHO HOLDS IT.
OKAY, NEXT, NEXT QUESTION IS FROM COMMISSIONER JACOB.
I JUST WANNA REBUT, UH, A STATEMENT THAT, UH, DIRECTOR CROSSLEY JUST MENTIONED ABOUT OUR NEED TO NOT PURCHASE ANY NEW BUILDINGS.
UH, I THINK THAT IF THE NUMBERS AND THE STATISTICS DICTATE, UH, A NEED FOR BUILDINGS, THEN YES, WE SHOULD PURCHASE THEM AS LONG AS THERE IS DUE DILIGENCE DONE WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES.
AND I LIFT UP DISTRICT 12 AS A WONDERFUL EXAMPLE FOR OTHER DISTRICTS TO FOLLOW WHEN WE, UM, UH, HELP WITH FAMILY GATEWAY AND, UH, UH, IN, IN WITH THE BUILDING IN DISTRICT 12, BEFORE ANYTHING WAS PURCHASED, BEFORE ANY DECISIONS WERE MADE, WE HAD A GROUND WELL OF SUPPORT AND IDENTIFICATION OF, UH, THOSE, UH, PAIN POINTS AS WELL AS THOSE, UH, POSITIVE POINTS OF DOING SO.
AND BY HAVING THE CONVERSATIONS WITHIN THE COMMUNITIES, WE WERE ABLE TO MAKE A SOUND DECISION.
AND I AM GLAD TO SEE THAT THE RESULTS OF DOING SO ARE SO POSITIVE FOR OUR FAMILY HOMELESS POPULATIONS.
I WILL SAY THAT, YOU KNOW, WHAT I'M SAYING IS NOT, UM, A PERSONAL POSITION.
THIS IS A POLICY POSITION THAT WE HAVE BEEN TOLD BY HHS, HEY, LET'S NOT BUY ANY MORE BUILDINGS.
UM, THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE CAN'T FINANCIALLY CONTRIBUTE.
UM, I DO AGREE THAT MORE FACILITIES NEED TO BE STOOD UP.
THERE'S PLENTY MORE TO BE DONE NOW, YOU KNOW, AS WE'VE DISCUSSED, AS YOU'VE HEARD, WHAT TYPE OF FACILITIES DIFFERENT, RIGHT? THERE ARE SOME THAT ARE GONNA MAKE MORE SENSE IN TERMS OF LONG TERM HOUSING, SHORT TERM HOUSING,
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THAT'S ALL UP FOR DISCUSSION.BUT THE ROLE THAT THE CITY PLAYS CAN BE PROACTIVE IN A WAY THAT IS LESS BURDENSOME.
UM, AND, UH, EXPEDITES THE PROCESS.
AND SO THAT'S THE POLICY DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE BEEN GIVEN.
WHO GAVE YOU THAT POLICY DIRECTION, IF I MAY ASK? SURE.
HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS AND GOVERNMENT PERFORMANCE AND FINANCE MANAGEMENT.
THAT'S YOUR TIME, COMMISSIONER.
UM, ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE AT CITY HALL? I'M NOT SEEING ANY, UH, AND WE'RE LOOKING OUT INTO WEBEX.
I'M JUST GONNA ASK A REAL QUICK QUESTION AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
UM, REGARDING THE INDEPENDENCE DRIVE, UH, AFTER NOVEMBER 18TH, 2024, IF YOU DON'T RECEIVE ANY NOFA UH, SUBMISSIONS FOR PSH, WHAT HAPPENS? WE WOULD GO BACK TO HOUSING AND COMMUNITY REVITALIZATION IF THEY'RE RUNNING THAT, AND TALK TO THEM ABOUT WHAT ARE OTHER VIABLE OPTIONS FOR THE PROPERTY.
AND THEN WE WOULD BRING THOSE TO HOUSING AND HOMELESS SOLUTIONS FOR THEIR CONSIDERATION.
UM, AND WE'RE GONNA STICK WITH JUST ONE ROUND ONE THERE.
UM, WE'RE MOVING ON TO THE NEXT ITEM.
WE'RE ON ITEM SEVEN, TASK FORCE UPDATE.
THIS IS THE CITIZEN HOMELESSNESS COMMISSION TASK FORCES.
UM, JUST WANNA GIVE, I KNOW WE INITIATED THESE LAST MEETING AND, UH, EVERYONE'S KIND OF GETTING THEIR SEA LEGS AND THAT IS UNDERSTANDABLE.
WE'RE GONNA START WITH THE PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT TASK FORCE CHAIR.
UH, WE'RE MOVING ON TO RACIAL EQUITY TASK FORCE CHAIR, COMMISSIONER TRAMON BROWN.
I HAVE MET WITH, UH, MY TEAM, CONNECTED WITH THEM, UM, TEXT MESSAGE WISE AND EMAILS TO SEE, GET A DATE CONFIRMED, AND HOPEFULLY OUR FIRST MEETING IS GOING TO BE NEXT THURSDAY.
SO WE'LL HAVE SOMETHING TO BRING TO THE TABLE NEXT TIME.
THANK YOU SO MUCH, COMMISSIONER BROWN.
UH, AND OUR LAST TASK FORCE IS DATA DRIVES INITIATIVE, INITIATIVES TASK FORCE.
UH, WE HAVE CO-CHAIRS, COMMISSIONER WESLEY KEYS, AND ANGELA KLATTEN HOFF, AND I BELIEVE ANGELA, UM, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN H IS GONNA PROVIDE THE UPDATE.
UH, SO THE DATA DRIVES INITIATIVE, TASK FORCE DID MEET, WE MET FOR THE FIRST TIME ON SEPTEMBER 9TH AT BROTHER BILLS OUT AT COMMISSIONER KEYS, UH, WHERE HE WORKS THEIR SERVICE PROVIDER FOR THE COMMUNITY.
AND SO IT WAS REALLY NEAT TO BE ABLE TO SEE, UH, EVERYTHING THAT THEY DO.
AND SO ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE DECIDED IS THAT WE ADDED THE ADJECTIVE, GOOD DATA DRIVES INITIATIVES.
WE WANNA MAKE SURE THAT WE'VE GOT GOOD DATA, UM, AND WE'RE NOT GETTING DATA THAT NO ONE LOOKS AT OR THAT IS NOT RELEVANT OR NO ONE NEEDS.
UM, WE WANT TO FIGURE OUT WHEN AND HOW TO USE 3 1 1 9, 1 1 9 8 8.
HOW TO COMMUNICATE, HOW TO USE THAT, ALMOST GET A FLOW CHART TOGETHER, YOU KNOW, DO YOU OBSERVE THIS CALL 3 1 1.
DO YOU OBSERVE THIS CALL 9 8 8? DO YOU OBSERVE THIS CALL? YOU KNOW, JUST A FLOW CHART REALLY FOR PEOPLE TO USE THOSE THREE PARTICULAR SERVICES.
UM, WE WANT TO TRY TO ALIGN BEST PRACTICES WITH OUR PARTNERS AND PROMOTE HEALTHY RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE DATA COLLECTED.
SO AGAIN, WHAT ARE WE DOING WITH THE DATA COLLECTED? WHERE IS IT COMING FROM? ARE WE USING IT? BECAUSE WE CERTAINLY DON'T WANT PEOPLE PROVIDING DATA THAT NO ONE'S LOOKING AT.
UM, WE ALL KNOW THAT THAT HAPPENS A LOT.
UM, OUR, AND SO WE ALSO WANT TO MEET WITH SOME OF OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS.
WE'RE GOING TO ASK A COUPLE OF THEM TO COME IN AND, UH, JUST GIVE US AN IDEA OF WHAT DATA IS IMPORTANT TO THEM SO WE CAN KIND AND GET AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT DATA NEEDS TO BE AS IMPORTANT TO US TO BE ABLE TO HELP OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS IN THE CITY.
SO WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING SET FOR OCTOBER 7TH, AND WE'RE GONNA DO IT UP IN D 11 IN MY AREA.
JUDE'S, UH, CENTER AT PARK CENTRAL.
THAT'S A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING CENTER.
AND, UH, SO THEY'RE LETTING US USE THEIR CONFERENCE ROOM UP THERE.
THEY'RE GONNA GIVE US A TOUR AFTER OUR MEETING'S OVER.
SO WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT NEXT MEETING.
UH, AND JUST AS A QUICK REMINDER TO THE CHAIRS OF EACH TASK FORCE, UM, WE WILL BE, I HOPE THAT YOU ARE, UM, DOCUMENTING ALL THAT IS HAPPENING SO THAT WE CAN, UM, INCLUDE A SUMMARY ON, UM, PROJECT INITIATIVES AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS IN OUR ANNUAL REPORT, WHICH IS DUE FEBRUARY 1ST.
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OKAY.UM, I CAN OPEN FLOOR TO QUESTIONS IF ANYONE HAS ANY QUESTIONS.
I'M NOT SEEING ANY AT CITY HALL LOOKING OUT INTO WEBEX.
UH, NEXT ITEM IS, UM, THE PRESENTATION, C ONE, B ONE, TEACH ONE.
UM, EVERYONE SHOULD HAVE PICKED UP A MATRIX HERE, UH, WHERE WE'RE DOCUMENTING EVERYONE'S, UM, PARTICIPATION.
AND REMEMBER THAT THIS IS VOLUNTARY.
UM, WE DO HAVE ONE VERY QUICK REPORT FROM COMMISSIONER JAMES HOWICK, WHO WILL DO A QUICK PRESENTATION ABOUT HIS VISIT TO MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT TWO.
AND, UM, THEN WE WILL DO VOLUNTEER REQUESTS FOR DISTRICT TOURS AFTERWARD.
UH, COMMISSIONER HO, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THIS TIME.
UM, FOLLOWING THE TOUR OF YOUR DISTRICT, YOU ASKED FOR A A FROM THE HEART REPORT OF WHAT I SAW AND EXPERIENCED.
AND, UH, I, I'M COMFORTABLE IF YOU WISH TO FORWARD THAT EMAIL TO THE REST OF THE COMMISSIONERS FOR THEM TO READ SO THAT I DON'T HAVE TO SIT READ EMAIL.
THAT WAS MAYBE AT TIMES A LITTLE EMOTIONAL, A LITTLE ANGRY.
UM, FIRST OF ALL, I GOTTA SAY, YOU GOTTA GET OUT THERE AND WALK THE DISTRICT AND, AND LINDA'S DISTRICT IS PROBABLY ONE OF THE HARDER ONES BECAUSE OF WHAT'S THERE.
UM, MY IMPRESSION WAS THE FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE ARE, ARE GOOD PEOPLE.
THEY MAY BE HOMELESS, MOST OF 'EM ARE GOOD.
THERE ARE SOME SCARY, THERE ARE SOME FRIGHTENING.
BUT FOR THE MOST PART, DURING THE TIME WE WERE OUT THERE, THERE ARE OKAY PEOPLE.
UM, WHAT BOTHERS ME AND WHAT I STARTED TO SEE AS I WENT AROUND IS THIS IS THE HEART OF OUR CITY.
THIS IS PARKS, HOTELS, BIG AL BUILDINGS.
I'M, THE FIRST IMPRESSION YOU GET AT DALLAS IS A BUNCH OF PEOPLE SITTING AROUND DEFECATING, MAKING TRASH AND MAKING CAMPS IN THE HEART OF OUR CITY, IT LOOKS LIKE WE JUST DON'T CARE ABOUT DALLAS.
AND THAT HURTS BECAUSE I THINK DALLAS HAS FAR MORE HEART THAN THAT.
THE NEXT THING I NOTICED IS WE HAVE AN AMAZING GREEN TEAM THAT JUST KEEPS UP.
WE DON'T EVEN KNOW HOW THEY DO IT.
WE SHOULD DUPLICATE THAT FOR ANYTHING 'CAUSE IT'S SO GOOD.
BUT WHAT I DIDN'T SEE WAS ANY OUTREACH PROVIDER IN THE ENTIRE TIME.
WE WALKED AROUND AND WE WERE OUT THERE FOR A GOOD HOUR AND A HALF, MAYBE TWO HOURS, WE KEPT GOING.
I WAS ABSOLUTELY FLOORED THAT THERE WAS NOT A VAN, NOT A SERVICE, NO ONE NOT EVEN DRIVING AROUND.
AND I LOOKED, I KEPT SAYING, WELL, WHERE'S THE PEOPLE? WE'RE GONNA HELP.
THIS IS THE TIME IT'S COMING ON EVENING.
APRIL IS GONNA RAIN, ACTUALLY, SUPPOSEDLY.
SO THIS, THIS JUST FRUSTRATES ME BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND.
WE PAY ALL THIS MONEY FOR SERVICES AND EVERYBODY'S RACING OUTTA CITY ALL AT FIVE O'CLOCK TO GO HOME.
SOMETIMES HOMELESSNESS IS A 24 HOUR A DAY JOB.
AND GUESS WHAT? IT STARTS WHEN WE'RE ALL GOING HOME.
UM, IT JUST, THESE THINGS COUNT CAUGHT ME.
I DIDN'T, LIKE I SAID, IT GETS VERY PASSIONATE.
IT MAKES ME, IT MAKES ME ANGRY, BUT IT ALSO MAKES ME CRY BECAUSE IT'S JUST LIKE, WE'VE GOT TO DO BETTER.
THERE'S JUST NO WAY ON EARTH THAT WE CAN LET THIS BE OUR STANDARD.
UM, WE GET A LOT OF WORK ON 3 1 1 CALLS AND FOLKS WERE PAY.
I MEAN, WE CALLED EVERYTHING INTO 3 1 1.
I THINK WE PROBABLY OVERWHELMED THAT TIME WITH THE NUMBER OF CALLS.
UM, I THINK, YOU KNOW, I'M GLAD THAT I GOT TO SEE THIS DISTRICT FIRST.
MY DISTRICT HAS A VERY DIFFERENT EXPERIENCE OF HOMELESSNESS.
I DON'T HAVE THE STREET LEVEL.
I HAVE CAR CAMPING, RIVER CAMPING,
WHAT I THOUGHT WASN'T SO BAD BECAUSE WHAT I THINK IS GOING ON DOWNTOWN IS MORE REPRESENTATIVE OF HOW BAD DALLAS IS IN TERMS OF OUR SHAPE ON HOMELESSNESS.
I THINK WE LIKE TO SAY WE'RE DOING A GREAT JOB.
AND I WOULD ARGUE IF OUR FOLKS WHO COME HERE TO SEE US, TO SEE DALLAS SHINE AND WATCH ALL THAT GREAT PROPAGANDA AND MEDIA ABOUT HOW WE'RE SUCH AN AMAZING CITY AND DALLAS' PLACE TO BE.
THAT'S WHAT YOU WALK OUT AND SEE.
'CAUSE THAT DOES NOT REPRESENT THE HEART OF TEXAS AT ALL.
AND JUST ONE REAL QUICK QUESTION.
COULD YOU ESTIMATE HOW MANY PEOPLE THAT YOU HAD SEEN ON OUR WALKING TOUR? A HUNDRED, 200, 300, 200, 300 PEOPLE.
I THINK, UH, SOME AREAS REAL BAD, LOT, A LOT OF DAMAGE.
I MEAN, HOMELESS PEOPLE DAMAGE THINGS BECAUSE THEY'RE ANGRY AND I THINK THAT'S THE PART.
THEY, THEY TAKE THE CONSTRUCTION BARRICADES AND THINGS THEY JUST DON'T EXPECT.
THEY'RE VERY RESOURCEFUL AND I GIVE THEM THAT.
BUT YEAH, ABOUT 300 AT LEAST PEOPLE.
I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT PRESENTATION.
UH, SO WE ARE JUST GONNA REMEMBER THIS IS THE C ONE B ONE, TEACH ONE.
AND, UM, AS COMMISSIONER, UH, HOWICK, UH, DESCRIBED, UM, WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES IN EACH DISTRICT.
AND THAT'S WHAT THIS IS FOR, FOR PEOPLE TO, UM, HAVE OPPORTUNITIES TO EXPLORE THE HOMELESS ISSUES IN EACH DISTRICT.
AND WITH THAT, UM, I'D LIKE TO OPEN THE FLOOR TO ANYONE WHO WOULD LIKE TO EITHER INVITE A COMMISSIONER TO THEIR DISTRICT OR, UM, REQUEST A TOUR, A DI DISTRICT.
AND, UM, I'M GONNA OPEN WITH, UM, I WOULD LIKE TO TOUR COMMISSIONER REVEREND BOONE.
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OKAY, THANK YOU.LET ME, LEMME JUST JOT THAT DOWN REAL QUICK.
ALL ARE WELCOME IN DISTRICT NINE.
SO WHAT I'M GONNA WRITE HERE IS THAT DISTRICT TWO IS REQUESTING DISTRICT NINE.
SO I'M GONNA PUT SEPTEMBER AND, UH, COMMISSIONER HOWICK, YOU WOULD ALSO LIKE TO TOUR DISTRICT NINE AS WELL.
AND, UH, DO YOU ACCEPT COMMISSIONER BOONE TO HAVE TWO OF US? I ACCEPT.
ANYONE ELSE? SO I'M LOOKING AT COMMISSIONER SHAN.
OKAY, SO COMMISSIONER SILHAN IS REQUESTING TO TOUR.
IT'S GONNA BE A PARTAKE COMMISSIONER.
JACOB, WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US? WELL, WE, WE DO HAVE TO, WE, WE DO HAVE TO, UM, RESPECT QUORUM.
SO, UM, OKAY, SO I HAVE AN, UH, COMMISSIONER, KLATTEN HOFF.
WOULD IT BE HELPFUL FOR EACH ONE OF US TO IDENTIFY MAYBE THREE OR FOUR DAYS AND TIMES THAT WE'RE AVAILABLE? AND THEN WE COULD SEND THEM TO THE, UH, OR PROVIDE THAT AND THEN PEOPLE CAN SAY, HEY, I WANNA COME TO YOUR DEAL ON SEPTEMBER 5TH THAT YOU'RE DOING, OR OCTOBER 6TH OR WHATEVER, AND GET PEOPLE TO JUST SIGN UP FOR DAYS THAT EACH ONE OF US IDENTIFY.
LET, LET'S THAT, WE WANNA DO TOURS OF THAT? YEAH, LET'S INITIATE THAT FOR NEXT.
SEND ME AN EMAIL SO I CAN, UM, INITIATE THAT.
UM, DID YOU HAVE A REQUEST? I WOULD LIKE TO TOUR COMMISSIONER BROWN'S.
DO YOU ACCEPT DISTRICT? COME ON AND JOIN THE PARTY, DEAR.
I WILL SAY, UM, MIGHT AS WILL DEFINITELY BE ANYBODY WHO WANTS TO TOUR IT IN OCTOBER, I WOULD NEED TO KNOW.
SO I, I GUESS WE NEED TO GET THAT EMAIL STARTED SOON IF IT'S MORE THAN ONE PERSON, SO THAT WAY WE CAN CONFIRM DATES.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS WHO ARE REQUESTING OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE IN CITY HALL? OKAY, I THINK WE'RE COVERED.
ANY COMMISSIONERS WHO WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST A TOUR OR ASK A COMMISSIONER TO TOUR THEIR DISTRICT? OKAY.
SO WE HAVE THAT FOR SEPTEMBER.
THANK YOU FOR ALL WHO ARE PARTICIPATING IN THAT.
ALL RIGHT, NEXT ITEM IS PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS.
THIS IS NO DISCUSSION, DEBATE OR VOTE.
UM, I JUST WANNA ADD THAT, UM, I'M IN THE PROCESS OF CONSOLIDATING ALL OF THE REQUESTS AND TRYING TO MAKE PROJECTIONS FOR THE NEXT, UM, FOUR, FOUR-ISH MONTHS ON HOW THAT'S GONNA FIT INTO THE CALENDAR.
AND THERE'S A LOT, UM, JUST WANNA, I'M NOT TRYING TO DISCOURAGE ANYONE FROM MAKING ANY REQUESTS, BUT I DO WANNA LET YOU KNOW THAT, UM, EVERYONE IS ON MY RADAR AND I'M GONNA TRY TO SQUEEZE EVERYBODY IN.
AND AS YOU CAN SEE, WE DO RUN SHORT ON THESE, THESE MEETINGS, UM, GIVING THE TWO HOUR ALLOTMENT AND WE HAVE TO MOVE QUICKLY.
SO, UH, ANY COMMISSIONERS REQUESTING ANY PROPOSED ITEMS FOR NEXT FUTURE MEETINGS? YOUR MIC IS UP.
AND THIS IS COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF, WHAT WOULD YOU LIKE? THANK YOU.
I'D LIKE TO HEAR MORE ABOUT HEART FROM THE HEART TEAM, THEIR PROCESS.
WE GET SOME, UH, REALLY HELPFUL NUMBERS FROM THEM EVERY WEEK.
AND I'VE GOT SOME QUESTIONS ON THOSE.
ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS HERE IN CITY HALL? NOT SEEING ANY.
WE'RE LOOKING OUT IN VIRTUAL LAND.
ALL RIGHT, SO WE HAVE THAT ONE PROPOSED ITEM FROM COMMISSIONER KLATTEN OFF, AND, UM, I'M TRYING TO WORK THAT INTO ONE ALREADY.
SO YEAH, YOUR WISH IS GRANTED.
THIS IS JUST CHC, HOUSEKEEPING ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS.
UM, WE HAVE TWO ITEMS ON THE AGENDA FOR THIS, AND THAT IS, UH, ONE, UH, PREPARATION OF THE ANNUAL REPORT AND TWO PREPARATION OF CHC TASK FORCE MEETINGS.
SO, UH, PREPARATION OF THE ANNUAL REPORT BEGINS AROUND NOVEMBER, DECEMBER, BUT I WANT YOU TO START THINKING ABOUT IT NOW.
UM, UH, OUR BOARD LIAISON, RENITA GRIGGS WILL CREATE THE ANNUAL REPORT BASED ON THE CRITERIA ESTABLISHED IN CHAPTER EIGHT BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, SECTION EIGHT DASH 1.1, TITLED REPORTS TO CITY COUNCIL, UH, ALONG WITH CHC RECOMMENDATIONS.
THE TEMPLATE USED IN THE PAST IS NOT A REQUIREMENT.
RE UH, MS. GRIGGS WILL SUBMIT THE ANNUAL REPORT BASED ON THE CITY'S STANDARD FORMATTING GUIDE.
SO PLEASE REVIEW THAT SECTION, THAT'S SECTION EIGHT DASH ONE ONE IN CHAPTER EIGHT, BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS, AND EMAIL, RENITA AND MYSELF ON ANY RECOMMENDATIONS TO START
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ANYTHING THAT YOU'D LIKE TO SEE IN THE REPORT.AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'RE GOING TO ADDRESS THAT, UM, AS WE FINALIZE IT IN DECEMBER, JANUARY, SO THAT IT CAN BE PRESENTED FOR CHC FINAL VOTE.
AND, UH, THE NEXT ITEM IS THE PREPARATION FOR CHC TASK FORCE MEETINGS.
WE'RE ALL GETTING OUR C LEGS ON THAT.
UM, THE TASK FORCE CHAIR WILL, THE PROCESS IS THE TASK FORCE CHAIR WILL SCHEDULE THE MEETING AND COMPLETE THE AGENDA.
THE AGENDA IS SUBMIT SUBMITTED TO RENITA AND YOU CAN CC ME.
THEN THAT PROCESS IS, IT IS REVIEWED BY HER AND THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE AT TIMES.
THIS CAN TAKE A COUPLE OF DAYS.
THE AGENDA MUST BE POSTED WITHIN THREE DAYS, CORRECT? OKAY.
UM, OF THE MEETING, RENITA WILL SET UP THIS MEETING IN MS TEAMS FOR REMOTE PARTICIPATION.
SHOULD YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS PROCESS, PLEASE SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS VIA EMAIL TO RENITA GRIGGS AND ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY MARISSA HINES OR, UM, STEVEN MC.
CAN WE INCLUDE YOU IN THAT? YES, SIR.
UM, SO SUBMIT YOUR QUESTIONS, UM, TO MS. RENITA AND OUR CITY ATTORNEYS, UM, HINES AND MCFADDEN.
UM, BOTH OF THEM CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS PROFICIENTLY AND EXPEDITIOUSLY.
I DO APPRECIATE BEING CC'D IN THAT, BUT I CAN'T ANSWER AS, AS QUICKLY AND AS KNOWLEDGEABLE AS THEM.
SO, UM, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THAT PRO, THOSE TWO PROCESSES? AND I HAVE COMMISSIONER JACOB, JUST FOR CLARITY, UH, THE RATIONALE BEHIND CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE REVIEWING AGENDAS.
UM, THAT WOULD BE A QUESTION FOR OUR CITY ATTORNEY.
AND, UM, STEVEN, GOOD AFTERNOON.
THIS, UH, THIS IS STEVEN MCCLAIN, CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE.
OUR OFFICE IS REQUIRED TO REVIEW ALL AGENDAS FOR, TO ENSURE THE COMPLIANCE WITH TMA.
IS THAT A CITY OF DALLAS REQUIREMENT OR A OMA REQUIREMENT THAT THE, THAT IS A CITY OF DALLAS REQUIREMENT.
JACOB, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE? AND AGAIN, IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS, WE WILL EMAIL, UM, ANITA GRIGGS AND OUR CITY ATTORNEY, MARISSA HINES OR STEVEN MCFADDEN, AND YOU CAN CC ME ON THAT.
AND OF COURSE, I WILL HELP ANYONE WHO NEEDS HELP WITH THAT.
I DO NOT MIND STEPPING IN, UM, WITH AN AGENDA OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT AND HELPING YOU GUYS GET ESTABLISHED BECAUSE IT IS, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
AND TO JUST BE THROWN IN TO, WITH YOUR FEET, FEET AND FIRES, IT'S, IT'S GONNA BE A CHALLENGE.
AND WE HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER KLATTEN HOFF WITH A QUESTION.
I JUST WANTED TO GIVE A LITTLE INPUT ON THE AGENDA, UH, BECAUSE I RAN INTO THAT LAST TIME AND, AND WHAT I DID NOT DO CORRECTLY AND WHAT OTHER PEOPLE MAY WANNA, UM, ON YOUR AGENDA, YOU HAVE TO PUT WHETHER YOU'RE, IT'S A PRESENTATION, A DISCUSSION, UM, IS THERE GOING TO BE A VOTE THO THOSE TYPE OF DESCRIPTOR WORDS WHERE WHAT I DID NOT HAVE ON MY AGENDA.
AND THAT'S WHERE THE, UH, CITY ATTORNEYS, UH, REVISED OUR AGENDA JUST TO ADD NOT ONLY WHAT WE WERE, THE TOPICS WE WERE DISCUSSING, BUT WHAT WERE WE DOING WITH THOSE TOPICS WAS THE FEEDBACK THAT I GOT.
THANK YOU COMMISSIONER CLINTON OFF.
AND JUST REMEMBER EVERYBODY AS WE GO THROUGH THIS PROCESS, WE'RE ALL LEARNING.
AND THAT IS, AND THAT'S GREAT.
AND AGAIN, TO QUOTE BOARD LIAISON, UH, RENITA GRIGGS, WE PUSH EACH OTHER AS A GROUP.
SO WITH THAT, WE'RE MOVING ON TO ITEM 11, WHICH IS THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.
SANCTION STREET FEEDINGS TO BE DETERMINED.
AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD THAT, UM, ESTABLISHED IN THE EARLIER PART OF THE YEAR.
UH, THE DISTRICT RIDE ALONGS ONGOING.
YOU CAN EMAIL BARRY DYSON OR LISA RAND.
UM, MONDAY, THIS MONDAY HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE.
THIS IS CHAIRED BY COUNCIL MEMBER MORENO FROM DISTRICT TWO.
UM, IF I REMEMBER, I'LL TRY TO TEXT YOU GUYS TO TUNE IN.
UH, YOU CAN ALWAYS TUNE IN ONLINE, UM, OR YOU, OF COURSE YOU CAN ATTEND IN PERSON.
THIS IS GONNA BE AT 9:00 AM CITY HALL COUNCIL COUNCIL CHAMBERS, THE DALLAS AREA PARTNERSHIP TO END AND PREVENT HOMELESSNESS.
THE LGC, UH, CHAIRED BY, UH, COUNCIL MEMBER KARA MENDELSON.
UH, THAT IS MATT JACOBS, COUNCIL MEMBER.
THIS IS THURSDAY, OCTOBER 3RD, 2024.
DALLAS CITY HALL IN THIS ROOM AT NOON.
AND AS YOU KNOW, THAT IS ALWAYS THE FIRST THURSDAY OF THE MONTH.
AND THEN WE HAVE OUR NEXT MEETING, THURSDAY, OCTOBER 17TH, 2024 IN THIS SAME ROOM AT 1:00 PM.
UM, GENERALLY SPEAKING, UM, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GONNA FOLLOW THIS AGENDA WITH THE REGULAR ITEMS, AND THEN OF COURSE, I'M GOING TO TRY TO
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INCORPORATE A COUPLE MORE, TWO AGENDA ITEMS OF COURSE.UM, THAT WILL KEEP EVERYONE, UM, UH, EVERYONE WILL UNDERSTAND WHAT OUR ROLES ARE HERE.
SO, AND THAT HAS, UH, THAT'S IT FOR THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF UPCOMING MEETINGS.
WOULD ANY OTHER COMMISSIONERS LIKE TO ADD ANY, UH, ANNOUNCEMENTS LOOKING HERE AT CITY HALL AND, UH, NO ONE HERE AT CITY HALL? ANYONE? UH, WE'VE GOT, UH, VICE, OH WAIT, I'M SORRY.
WE DO HAVE, UH, COMMISSIONER HALLOCK, WHAT'S GOT I THANK YOU, CHAIR.
I JUST ONCE AGAIN WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ORGANIZING A VERY WELL RUN MEETING AND PROVIDING US WITH SUCH GREAT INFORMATION AND KEEPING US MOVING.
I'M BURNING THE CANDLE AT BOTH ENDS, SO I APPRECIATE THAT.
AND I APPRECIATE EVERYONE'S ENGAGEMENT TOO.
EVERYONE'S PUTTING FORTH THE EFFORT, EFFORT HERE, AND I'M LOOKING AT ANGIE, WHO'S WAIVING.
UH, I'VE GOT COMMISSIONER BROWN, I'M SORRY.
I JUST WANTED TO REMIND EVERYONE TODAY IS THE NORTH TEXAS GIVING DAY, SO YOU CAN FIND YOUR NUMBER A BLESSING TOO.
I, I, THAT WAS ON MY RADAR AND I FORGOT, BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH, VICE CHAIR OWENS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU, WE MISSED YOU HERE TODAY.
ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENTS, ANGIE? OKAY.
SO, UH, WE ARE NOW AT ITEM 12, WHICH IS ADJOURNMENT.
IT IS 2:46 PM AND THIS MEETING'S ADJOURNED.