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YEAH. SO I HATE TO BREAK UP EVERYBODY'S WONDERFUL CONVERSATIONS.
[Park, Trails, and Environment Committee on December 2, 2024.]
I KNOW WE'RE ALL IN THAT MODE OF GETTING BACK INTO WORK MODE.THE HOLIDAYS HAVE BEEN GREAT, BUT I PROBABLY SHOULD CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER.
SO I WILL CALL THIS MEETING TO ORDER AS OF 9:02 AND WANT TO WELCOME EVERYONE TO THE DECEMBER 2ND PARKS, TRAILS AND ENVIRONMENT COMMITTEE MEETING.
AS USUAL, OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS IS TO APPROVE MINUTES TO HAVE A MOTION.
ALL IN FAVOR? ALL RIGHT. PERFECT.
ALL RIGHT. SO WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD.
I WASN'T ABLE TO. OUR FIRST BRIEFING ITEM IS A PRESENTATION ON THE FAIR PARK COMMUNITY PARK DESIGN. I WANT TO WELCOME VELETTA LILL.
VELETTA. WE'RE GLAD TO HAVE YOU BACK.
MAYBE ON A MORE POSITIVE NOTE.
SO PLEASE JOIN US HERE AT THE TABLES.
VELETTA IS PRESIDENT OF THE FAIR PARK FIRST BOARD OF DIRECTORS.
WE ALSO HAVE, I UNDERSTAND, JASON BROWN WHO IS VICE PRESIDENT AND ZAIDA BASORA A BOARD MEMBER.
IS THAT CORRECT? ANYBODY ELSE? NO. WELCOME.
I CAN INTRODUCE EVERYONE, MADAM CHAIR.
WE'RE HAPPY TO BE HERE WITH YOU THIS MORNING.
AND AS YOU SAY ON A HAPPIER NOTE, SO TO SPEAK, WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR COMMUNITY PARK.
THE COMMUNITY PARK IS A IS MISSION PRIORITY FOR THE ORGANIZATION IS ALSO A CONTRACTUAL AGREEMENT WITH THE CITY THAT WE BUILD THIS COMMUNITY PARK, AND THAT WE WOULD NOT RECEIVE CITY FUNDING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PARK.
WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THAT IS WORKING ON IT.
HE IS ALSO THE COMMITTEE CHAIR OF THE COMMUNITY PARK AND A SOUTH DALLAS SOUTH BOULEVARD RESIDENT.
TO HIS RIGHT IS ZAIDA BASORA, WHO YOU MAY KNOW, WAS ONCE THE CHIEF BUILDING OFFICIAL FOR THE CITY OF DALLAS, IS NOW HEAD OF THE AIA DALLAS AND THE CENTER FOR ARCHITECTURE, THE AD EX SPECIFICALLY THE FOUNDATION.
TO HER RIGHT IS ALYSSA ARNOLD, WHO IS OUR CEO AND ACTING CEO AND EXTREMELY KNOWLEDGEABLE IN PARK ACTIVATION AND PLANNING.
SO WITH THAT, WE WILL BEGIN THE BRIEFING.
GOOD MORNING. FIRST, I'D LIKE TO JUST SAY IT'S AN HONOR TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS TODAY, NOT ONLY AS A RESIDENT OF SOUTH DALLAS FAIR PARK, BUT ALSO AS YOU GUYS VICE CHAIR OF FAIR PARK FIRST.
WHO'S ON THE SLIDES? ARE WE READY? OKAY, YOU CAN GO TO NEXT SLIDE.
SO TODAY WE'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT OUR PROMISE THAT WE MADE IN FRONT OF YOU GUYS.
ALL RIGHT. DELIVERING ON OUR PROMISE.
THIS PARK HAS BEEN VERY CRITICAL TO NOT ONLY THE NEIGHBORHOOD, BUT TO OUR CITY.
SO OVER THE DURATION, SINCE WE'VE BEEN INVOLVED WITH ESTABLISHING THE PLAN FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK, WE'VE HAD COUNTLESS MEETINGS NOT ONLY WITH OUR DONORS, BUT THE COMMUNITY.
AS IT RELATES TO WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PARKING GARAGE THAT KIND OF GOT OUT OF CONTROL.
IT TURNED INTO NOT BEING A PARKING FACILITY, BUT ACTUALLY BEING A COMMERCIAL COMPONENT TO OUR PARK, WHICH TAKE AWAY WHICH WAS TAKING AWAY SOME OF THE COMMUNITY EFFORTS THAT WE HAD IN PLACE.
WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO SHOW PROGRESS QUICKLY.
WE'LL BE ABLE TO TALK ABOUT TIMELINES AND THINGS LIKE THAT LATER ON IN THE PRESENTATION.
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THROUGHOUT THE COURSE, WE'VE BEEN VERY CRITICAL WITH THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT.ONE THING I WANT TO POINT OUT HERE IS THAT WE HAD OVER 130 DIFFERENT NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS AND EVENTS, AND WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NEIGHBORHOODS WE'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY INVOLVEMENT DIRECTLY AROUND FAIR PARK.
SO NOT JUST STAKEHOLDERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY, BUT RESIDENTS IN 75210 AND 75215 ZIP CODES.
WE HAVE PUBLIC WORKSHOPS, OPEN HOUSES AND SURVEYS.
AND THAT'S WHAT LED US TO THE PARK LOCATION, WHICH ULTIMATELY LANDED AT LOT 10 A, 10 B RESIDENTS VOTED IN FAVOR OF LOT 11, BUT A LOT 11 IS A LITTLE BIT FURTHER OUT.
IT WOULD HAVE CREATED A GAP BETWEEN FROM THE DOS EQUIS .
SO LOT 10 A IS AND WE'LL SHOW THAT ON THE MAP AS WELL WHERE WE ULTIMATELY LANDED AT AND THEN ALSO WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THE AMENITIES AND SURVEYS, WHAT LANDED ON IT.
DOG PARKS. PERFORMANCE STAGES.
SOME OF THE THINGS THAT OUR NEIGHBORS WANTED TO SEE IN THE PARK.
AND WE HAVE THOSE THINGS IN THE PARK.
WHEN WE TALK ABOUT TEAM THE LEAD IS ALYSSA.
CHAIRED BY MYSELF AND CO-CHAIRED BY ZAIDA.
WE HAVE OUR FACILITIES COMMITTEE, WHICH IS ALSO A COMMITTEE THAT'S BEEN STAND UP, THAT IS FULL OF COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONALS THAT UNDERSTAND PUBLIC PRIVATE FINANCING STRUCTURES, THAT UNDERSTANDS HOW TO OVERSEE AND CREATE MAINTENANCE PLANS FOR THESE BUILDINGS.
A NEW FUNDS MANAGER, DALLAS FOUNDATION.
WE HAVE A NEW PROJECT MANAGER ON THE TEAM, NORMAN, AND MOST IMPORTANTLY, OUR CAMPAIGN STRATEGIST WITH RISE360 AND THEN OUR CONSTRUCTION TEAM, AND THEN ALSO WITH THE BOARD MEMBER.
WE WENT OUT WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT, YOU KNOW, SOME OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED.
WE WENT OUT AND DID A BOARD RESET.
AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE SLIDE IN FRONT OF YOU.
ALL OF THE REQUESTED AMENITIES HAVE BEEN INCLUDED.
THERE ARE NO CHANGES IN THOSE REQUESTED AMENITIES AND DONOR FUNDED COMPONENTS OF THE PARK.
SO WE'RE DELIVERING 100% ON THE OF ALL THE PROMISES AND COMMITMENTS MADE FOR THE COMMUNITY PARK.
SCROLL TO THE NEXT ONE, PLEASE.
YOU CAN SEE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF THE PARK.
AND WHAT I WANT YOU TO NOTE IS THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE WE HAVE REFINED THE SCOPE TO INCLUDE ALL OF THE AMENITIES THAT WERE REQUESTED, BUT IN A SMALLER FOOTPRINT.
SO WE ARE USING 10.7 ACRES OF THE SITE OF THE PARK.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE, AS YOU KNOW, THE PARKING GARAGE WILL NOT BE BUILT.
SO WE'RE MAKING ROOM FOR PARKING THAT WE HAD ALSO.
THERE ARE PARKING OBLIGATIONS TO OUR FRIENDS AT STATE FAIR OF TEXAS AND DOS EQUIS PAVILION.
SO WE HAVE THIS IS ALMOST LIKE A PUZZLE, RIGHT? ALL OF THESE AMENITIES ARE AT THE SIZE THAT THEY NEED TO BE.
THEY'RE JUST FITTING SLIGHTLY DIFFERENTLY IN A REFINED SCOPE FOR THE PARK.
WE HAVE ALSO LOOKED AT THE TIMELINE A REVISED TIMELINE FOR THIS PROJECT.
AND SO WE ARE CURRENTLY IN DESIGN DEVELOPMENT.
AND WE HOPE TO HAVE THAT COMPLETED IN THE SPRING OF 2025 AND THEN START RIGHT ON TO CONSTRUCTION DOCUMENTS TO FINISH THOSE BY THE SUMMER, WITH THE GOAL OF STARTING CONSTRUCTION MOBILIZATION RIGHT AFTER THE STATE FAIR CLOSES IN 2025.
WE HAVE A LOOK AT OUR CONSTRUCTION TIMELINE OF 12 MONTHS.
SO WE SHOULD BE DOING THE RIBBON CUTTING IN THE WINTER OF 2026.
SO AFTER THE FAIR NEXT YEAR, AND KEEPING IN MIND THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT WORKING AROUND THE FAIR NEXT YEAR AND AROUND THE FAIR IN 2026, IN ADDITION TO THE WORLD CUP.
RIGHT. THE FIFA, THAT WILL BE WE'RE USING SOME OF THESE FACILITIES DURING THAT IN 2026.
REGARDING THE BUDGET, WE'RE LOOKING AT A FINALIZED TURNKEY PROJECT BUDGET OF 39.1 MILLION.
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THE ORIGINAL BUDGET WAS 35 MILLION.WE ALREADY HAVE 30 MILLION SECURED BETWEEN PUBLIC AND FUNDING AND PLEDGES FROM DONORS. SO WE HAVE ABOUT $9.7 MILLION TO RAISE, AND WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WE CAN DO THAT IN THE NEXT 12 TO 18 MONTHS.
ALYSSA DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY? ALYSSA, DO YOU WANT TO MAKE ANY COMMENTS BEFORE WE BEGIN THE Q&A.
NO. I'LL LET THE Q&A SPEAK FOR WHAT I NEED TO COVER.
OKAY. TO SUMMARIZE, WE HAVE RESCOPED THIS PROJECT.
WE DID THAT LARGELY BECAUSE IN MANY OF THE MEETINGS, IN THE BEGINNING WITH THE ARCHITECTS, OVG HAD REQUESTED A LARGE COMMERCIAL STAGE WITH DRESSING ROOMS, ETC., THAT WERE PRETTY EXPENSIVE AND UNNECESSARY FOR THE COMMUNITY. THEY HAD ALSO ASKED ON THE PARKING GARAGE THAT IT INCLUDE TWO ITEMS. AND SINCE WE DON'T HAVE THE PARKING GARAGE, ONE OF THOSE ITEMS, THEY WANTED ANOTHER EVENT SPACE, AND THE OTHER ITEM WAS A BERM THAT WOULD HOUSE A MAINTENANCE FACILITY UNDERNEATH IT.
THE PARKING GARAGE IS GONE FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS.
NUMBER ONE, THE COMMUNITY DID NOT WANT SOMETHING SORT OF IN YOUR FACE THAT CLOSE TO THEM.
SO THEY HAVE REQUESTED THAT WE NOT NOT DO THAT.
WE ARE SENSITIVE TO THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS AND DOS EQUIS AND THEIR PARKING NEEDS.
SO WE ARE IN FREQUENT CONVERSATIONS RELATIVE TO THAT FOR THEM.
THIS PARK, AS YOU REMEMBER IN THE STATED LOCATION, IS THE LOCATION FROM WHERE HOUSES WERE TAKEN BY EMINENT DOMAIN IN THE 60S AND 70S.
SO THIS WILL BE RESTITUTION IN MANY WAYS.
PART OF THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO INCLUDE THAT ARE NOT LISTED.
NUMBER ONE, SOME INTERPRETATION AND HISTORICAL INTERPRETATION OF WHAT DID EXIST ON THE PROPERTY, AND ALSO PROGRAMING RELATED TO THAT HISTORIC ASPECT.
THE COMMUNITY DOES NOT WANT A FENCE AROUND IT, SO A FENCE WOULD BE THE FENCE THAT EXISTS AND IS NEEDED FOR THE STATE FAIR WOULD BE MOVED TO THE INSIDE SO THAT YOU COULD EASILY ACCESS THE PARK FROM THE STREET.
WE DO HAVE A LOT OF NEED FOR ENSURING THAT THE COMMUNITY CAN CROSS INTO THIS SPACE, AND ALYSSA HAS WORKED ON A TRAFFIC STUDY WITH KIMLEY-HORN TO ENSURE THAT NEIGHBORS CAN WALK ACROSS THE STREET BECAUSE THEY WANT TO REMEMBER.
I WANT YOU TO REMEMBER THERE ARE PEOPLE BOTH LIVING OVER THERE, AND PEOPLE MAKE SOMEWHAT OF THEIR LIVING THROUGH PARKING LOTS THAT EXIST ACROSS THE STREET. SO WE'LL NEED A FAIRLY SOPHISTICATED PEDESTRIAN CROSSING ELEMENT TO THIS, WHICH WE WILL NEED TO WORK ON.
AND KIMLEY-HORN, AS I SAID, HAS STUDY, BUT THAT WILL BE AN IMPORTANT FEATURE TO THIS THAT'S NOT REALLY LISTED BUT IS IMPORTANT TO ASPECTS OF THIS.
ONE THING THAT WE MIGHT CONSIDER AND HAS NOT BEEN DISCUSSED TO DATE IS EMPLOYING SOMEONE IN THE ARCHEOLOGY SPACE AS WE DO.
THE EXCAVATION, AS I SAID THIS, THERE WERE HOMES HERE.
YOU WOULD ONLY NEED TO DO IT ON A SMALL SPACE.
THERE ARE NO CEMETERIES CLOSE HERE, BUT THERE COULD BE INTERESTING HISTORIC DETRIS UNDERNEATH THIS SITE THAT WE MIGHT WANT TO CAPTURE. IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE A LARGE SPACE.
SO THOSE ARE KIND OF THE BASICS OF THIS PARK.
AND WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU ONCE THE FINAL DESIGN HAS BEEN COMPLETED,
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SO THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT AS INDICATED IN OUR TIMELINE, THAT IS, THAT IS IN THE SPRING.SO I WOULD OPEN THE QUESTIONS NOW FOR MYSELF.
WE ALSO HEATHER, COULD YOU JOIN US? DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA YOU HAVE QUESTIONS? HEATHER STEVENS, DOES OUR FUNDRAISING RISE360 IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS.
ALSO, NORM ALSTON, OUR PROJECT MANAGER, IS HERE.
MANY OF YOU KNOW HIM AS A PRESERVATION ARCHITECT WHO'S DONE A LOT OF WORK IN FAIR PARK.
SO ANY OF THE PEOPLE HERE CAN ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU ALL. THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S PRESENTATION.
ALSO, THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR YOUR WORK.
FAIR PARK FIRST HAS HAS DEFINITELY RISEN TO THE OCCASION.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE HAD YOU IN FRONT OF US FOR OTHER TOPICS, BUT IT'S GREAT TO GET BACK TO BUSINESS.
SO I WANT TO JUST SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR NOT ALLOWING FOR BEATS TO BE SKIPPED, AND TO PRIORITIZE THE FUTURE OF THE PARK AND THE COMMUNITY'S INPUT IN WHAT THAT FUTURE LOOKS LIKE.
THIS PARK HAS BEEN SOMETHING THAT WE'VE HIGHLY ANTICIPATED IN SOUTH DALLAS.
I REALLY WANT TO SAY THANK YOU ALL FOR ADDRESSING SOME OF THAT.
I THINK THAT NOT ONLY WITH KIND OF A STICKER SHOCK ON PRICE TAGS, THE PARKING GARAGE SEEMED TO BE MORE OF THE STAR OF THE SHOW ORIGINALLY, AND THE PARK WAS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING CAST.
JUST AS YOU MENTIONED, THERE'S HISTORIC CONTEXT THAT I THINK IS EXTREMELY IMPORTANT.
THOSE OF MY COLLEAGUES OR THE PUBLIC THAT DON'T KNOW WITH, WITH THIS PARTICULAR PART OF THE 277 ACRES BEING STRIPPED FROM THE COMMUNITY AND REALLY SYMBOLIZING FAIR PARK BEING SOMETHING THAT WASN'T ALWAYS AN ASSET.
THAT'S WHAT I WAS HOPING TO SEE THIS MASTER PLAN CHANGE THE MINDSET OF, HEATHER YOU'VE DONE AN AMAZING JOB OF GETTING THE PHILANTHROPY COMMUNITY INVOLVED AND GETTING A BUY IN FROM PARTS OF OUR CITY THAT HAVE NEVER INVESTED IN THIS AREA.
BUT ALSO JUST TO BE ABLE TO HIGHLIGHT THIS IS 100% A CROWN JEWEL OF OUR CITY.
AND SO TO SEE THAT IT'S NOT GOING TO ONLY GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE THAT CROWN JEWEL, BUT THAT IT'S GOING TO SERVE THE PURPOSE THAT IT NEEDS TO IN THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY IS BEYOND EXCITING TO ME.
SO I DON'T HAVE A WHOLE LOT OF QUESTIONS.
I'VE BEEN KEEPING PRETTY CLOSE TABS ON YOU ALL AND LOOKING AT THE WORK THAT YOU ALL ARE DOING.
I COULDN'T BE HAPPIER WITH WHERE WE ARE.
PLEASE KEEP US POSTED ON THE CITY OF AT THE CITY OF WHERE WE CAN BE THE GREATEST ASSISTANCE OVERALL.
BUT OVERALL, WHEN WE LOOK AT THESE PARK SYSTEMS, IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE ASSETS FOR OUR RESIDENTS.
AND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THIS HAS LACKED FOR SO LONG IN THE PARK.
AND THIS IS WHAT YOU ALL ARE BRINGING BACK TO US.
SO I'M HAPPY TO SEE YOU ALL HERE IN SUCH A POSITIVE LIGHT.
AND THANK YOU ALL FOR Y'ALL'S UPDATE.
NO QUESTIONS. SO I DO ACTUALLY HAVE A QUESTION THE SIZE OF THE PLAYGROUND.
IS IT LARGE ENOUGH? TO ATTRACT FAMILIES? YEAH. SO WE ACTUALLY HAVE THREE DIFFERENT PLAYGROUNDS ON THE SITE, AND THEY ARE EQUATE TO ABOUT AN ACRE WORTH OF PLAY.
SO THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF PLAY TO WORK WITH.
THERE'S ALSO, PERCUSSIVE AND SENSORY PLAY THAT IS SPREAD OUT ACROSS THAT AS WELL.
THAT'S WHERE WHAT WE CALL THE POST OAK PORCH.
BUT THOSE ARE THERE'S A TOT LOT.
THEN THE TOT LOT OBVIOUSLY IS 24 MONTHS UP, AND THEN WE HAVE THE CROSS TIMBERS ADVENTURE PLAYGROUND AS WELL, WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT FOR OLDER KIDS AS WELL.
SO THERE'S QUITE A VAST VARIETY OF PLAY OPTIONS AVAILABLE ON THIS COMMUNITY PARK.
OKAY. I GUESS I JUST WASN'T FINDING THAT.
AND DOES THE DO THE PLAYGROUNDS HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES? YES, THEY WILL HAVE SHADE STRUCTURES.
BECAUSE YOU CAN'T HAVE PLAYGROUNDS WITHOUT SHADE. THEY'LL ALSO HAVE PICNIC AREAS ADJACENT.
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YES, I UNDERSTAND.AND THEN ON THE ARCHEOLOGIST POINT, WHICH I FIND FASCINATING, WE ACTUALLY IN DISTRICT TEN, I BELIEVE, USED A PROFESSOR AT UTD FOR OUR LITTLE EGYPT PROJECT. SO IF WE MIGHT TRY TO REACH OUT TO THEM, THEY I THINK COULD BE VERY INTERESTED IN THAT.
I'LL TRY TO GET THE NAME OF THE PROFESSOR AND PASS THAT ON.
THAT WOULD BE GREAT. BECAUSE I WOULD ABSOLUTELY.
BEFORE WE TURN DIRT, BEFORE WE START PUTTING IN THE PARK TO DO THAT LOOK IT WOULD BE FASCINATING.
WE DID ALSO WE ARE MATCHING THE WANTS OF THE COMMUNITY.
BUT MANY OF THESE, MANY OF THESE AMENITIES HAD SPECIFIC DONORS WHO WANTED TO CONTRIBUTE TO A TOT LOT, OR SPECIFICALLY THE MARKET GROVE, TO IMPROVE FOOD CHOICES IN THE COMMUNITY.
SHE'S GOT CIRO MARKET COMING UP THIS WEEKEND, WHICH HAS GOT, I THINK, 70 LOCAL VENDORS FROM OUR COMMUNITY THAT, AGAIN, WE ARE MATCHING THE NEEDS OF THE COMMUNITY AS WELL AS WHAT DONORS WOULD LIKE TO CONTRIBUTE TOO.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
ALWAYS A BIG FAN OF PARKS AND TRYING TO GARNER ADDITIONAL GREEN SPACE.
WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL VISION OF HOW MANY ACRES ON THE PARK WERE ORIGINALLY ENVISIONED? ALYSSA, 18 WITH THE PARKING GARAGE.
YEAH. SO THE SITE THAT WAS SELECTED BY THE COMMUNITY, WHICH IS LOT TEN.
SO IT BECAME AN 18 ACRE GREEN SPACE IN THAT ITERATION.
OKAY. AND HOW MANY ARE WE SEEKING ON THIS VERSION? THIS IS TEN.
THE ORIGINAL KLYDE WARREN IS FIVE.
SO IT'S BASICALLY DOUBLE WHAT KLYDE WARREN IS.
I KNOW WE'RE MOVING AWAY FROM THAT, BUT I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM A SUSTAINABILITY APART WHERE THE PARKING REVENUE'S GOING TO GO BACK INTO THE PARK FOR MAINTENANCE AND UPKEEP OR WHAT WAS THE PROPOSAL ON THE INCOME FROM THE PARKING GARAGE? ALL THE ALL PARKING REVENUES IN THE PARK GO BACK TO THE PARK, ESSENTIALLY, WHETHER IT WAS US BUILT CONSTRUCTING ONE OR THE EXISTING PARK REVENUE.
OKAY. THE COST OF THAT PARKING GARAGE WOULD HAVE MEANT A CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DEBT ON THAT PARKING GARAGE, WHICH WOULD HAVE REQUIRED FOR THOSE REVENUES TO PAY THAT DEBT.
YOU WILL REMEMBER FROM BOTH THE 2003 COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AS WELL AS MAYOR RAWLINGS UPDATE.
THERE IS A NEED TO BUILD PARKING STRUCTURES.
WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO CREATE MORE GREEN SPACE AND LESS ASPHALT, BUT WHAT WE DON'T WANT TO DO IS HAVE THE PARKING GARAGES SORT OF UP AGAINST THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THEY NEED TO BE MORE INTERIOR.
OKAY, SO THE UNASSIGNED PARKING AREA ON THE PROPOSAL IS JUST WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? WHAT'S THE UNASSIGNED AREA THAT WHAT YOU SEE ON IS THE PARKING FOR THE PARK.
IT'S THE PARKING FOR THE PARK.
SORRY. HOW MANY PARKING SPACES ARE PLANNED.
AND THEN SO THIS IS NEXT TO DOS EQUIS.
ARE ANY OF THOSE PARKING LOTS OBLIGATED TO DOS EQUIS AND HOW IS THAT BEING WORKED OUT? THESE ARE FOR THE PARK.
OKAY. THEY'RE NOT NECESSARILY FOR DOS EQUIS.
RIGHT, RIGHT. WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THE EXISTING PARKING LOTS THAT ARE THERE.
ARE ANY OF THOSE DESIGNATED TO DOS EQUIS CURRENTLY?
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WE HAVE WORKED IT OUT WITH WE WILL CONTINUE TO WORK IT OUT WITH LIVE NATION THAT THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE PARKING FOR THEIR EVENTS.WE HAVE PUT FORTH THAT STATE FAIR AND LIVE NATION.
WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE THEIR NEEDS JUST AS MUCH AS WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE OUR NEEDS.
AND SO THAT HAS THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE WORKING TOWARDS.
BUT THEY ARE IN AGREEMENT AND THEY ARE IN CONVERSATION WITH US ABOUT THAT.
SO ON EVENINGS THAT THERE'S CONCERTS AT DOS EQUIS, WILL DOS EQUIS CUSTOMERS BE ABLE TO PARK IN THE COMMUNITY PARKING LOT? THEY WILL WORK THAT OUT DEPENDING ON THE SHOW.
OBVIOUSLY THEIR TICKET SALES VARY GREATLY WHEN THEY DO AND DON'T NEED EXTRA PARKING.
BUT WE HAVE FACTORED IN THE FACT THAT WE OBVIOUSLY HAVE ALWAYS 70 PARKING SPACES AVAILABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WOULD NOT BE IMPACTED NO MATTER WHAT THE EVENT IS, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. OKAY, GREAT.
AND AT THE END OF THE DAY, RIGHT.
WE STILL WANT TO ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO WALK THERE.
SO I WAS REALLY MOTIVATED AND ENCOURAGED BY THE PEDESTRIAN WALKABILITY AND CROSSWALKS.
I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO NOT MISS HERE.
AND IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ASK FROM THE CITY ON THE INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CROSSWALKS TO COME IN AT A LATER DATE, OR IS THAT PART OF THE PARK FUNDRAISING THAT'S CURRENTLY GOING ON? THERE ARE TWO ASPECTS HERE.
NUMBER ONE, YOU WILL REMEMBER THE EXTENSION OF THE SANTA FE TRAIL, WHICH WAS JUST FUNDED AND WILL BE IN DESIGN, WILL GO IMMEDIATELY PAST THIS PARK.
I DO ANTICIPATE, IN TERMS OF SECURING FUNDING FOR THOSE PIECES THAT ARE OFF OF OUR PROPERTY, TO LOOK TO THE CITY AND COG TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE ADEQUATE CROSSINGS AT THAT POINT.
SO, YES, WE WILL BE LOOKING TO OTHER SOURCES BECAUSE WE'RE NOT RAISING MONEY FOR THIS SPECIFIC PIECE BECAUSE IT'S NOT OUR PROPERTY. SURE.
IS THIS AN AREA OF CONCERN WHERE THE PARK'S SLATED TO GO? NO, THIS IS NOT AN AREA OF CONCERN.
BASED ON OUR OWN WORK WE'VE DONE.
WE'VE DONE TWO ENVIRONMENTAL STUDIES ALREADY.
IN OTHER WORDS, WHEN IT WAS REVIEWED, YOU COULDN'T SEE EXACTLY WHAT IT WAS.
AT ONE TIME THERE WAS A GAS STATION IN THIS AREA, AND ALYSSA CAN SPEAK TO THIS, SO WE HAD TO GO BACK AND DO A SECOND STUDY TO ENSURE THAT IT WAS NOT A GAS TANK THAT NEEDED TO BE REMOVED.
SO WE HAVE A FULL ENVIRONMENTAL APPROVAL IN TERMS OF THAT.
TO THE PARK HERE. CHAIR BLACKMON.
OKAY. THANK YOU. SO IT SOUNDS THAT THE TOTAL PRICE TAG IS 39 MILLION.
RIGHT. AND WE'VE RAISED 30 MILLION.
WHAT IS THE PLAN FOR THE EXTRA NINE? WE'VE RAISED 30 MILLION.
THAT IS CORRECT. OKAY, SO YOU ALL WILL BE GOING OUT FOR TO FINISH THE FUNDRAISING.
WE ARE OUT RAISING MONEY AGAIN.
SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS I'M ASKING EVEN ONE OF MY OWN PARKS, WHAT ARE WE PUTTING ASIDE FOR RESERVES? BECAUSE IN YEAR FOUR AND FIVE THINGS TEND TO BREAK.
AND ARE WE PUTTING ANY MONEY IN RESERVES FOR WHEN THAT HAPPENS? IN OTHER WORDS, ARE YOU PUTTING 20% ASIDE FOR WHEN BREAKS HAPPEN? I'LL DEFER TO BECAUSE I DO NOT DO THE BUDGETING.
BUT I WOULD SAY THAT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT THEY'RE LOOKING AT.
I DON'T KNOW THAT IT'S PLANNED INTO THAT 9 MILLION THAT'S REMAINING TO BE RAISED.
BECAUSE, I MEAN, WE HAVE NO MORE MONEY.
I KNOW, I'M JUST LETTING YOU KNOW.
WE KNOW THAT FOR THE REST OF THE 277 ACRES, WE HAVE NO MONEY.
AND SO WE'RE LOOKING AT EVERYTHING.
AND I WOULD THINK IF THE PUBLIC WANTS TO HELP THE CITY, THEN MAYBE WE SHOULD LOOK TO FUND RAISE FOR 33 MILLION OR WHAT? FOR 43 MILLION AND KEEP 4 MILLION IN RESERVES.
GO AHEAD. I WAS GONNA ASK. YEAH. AND THAT'S THAT'S A GOOD, GOOD CALL OUT A GOOD ONE THING FOR SURE, WITH THIS WHOLE KIND OF REIMAGINED REDESIGN OF THE PARK IT'S, YOU KNOW, UPDATING OUR PRO FORMA ON OPERATIONS OF IT SO WE CAN START SETTING ASIDE SOME OF THESE RESERVES AND MAINTENANCE AND ALSO
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GOING BACK TO THE TABLE WITH SOME OF THE ELEMENTS.SO THERE'S A LOT OF THINGS HAPPENING AT ONCE.
BUT AS FAR AS THE OPERATION SIDE OF IT, THAT'S SOMETHING INTERNALLY THAT CONVERSATION WE HAD, YOU KNOW, WITH THE PARK AS FAR AS MAINTENANCE, THE REST OF THE AS WELL AS THE REST OF THE FAIRGROUNDS AS WELL. WELL, I WOULD STRONGLY URGE YOUR BOARD TO LOOK AT PUTTING SOME MONEY BACK.
THINGS NEEDED TO HAPPEN IMMEDIATELY.
SO JUST PLEASE, BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY, I FEEL LIKE I'M TALKING TO MY KIDS.
I HAVE NO MORE MONEY. WHAT ELSE DO YOU WANT? AND A NUMBER OF THE PARKS IN RECENT AND WHETHER IT'S HALPERN PARK, SLASH, SOUTHERN GATEWAY OR FRIENDS IN THE DOWNTOWN PARKS CONSERVANCY OR KLYDE WARREN, THERE WERE THERE WERE THERE WAS DIALOG RELATIVE TO THAT COST FROM FROM MAINTENANCE.
JASON IS GOING TO BE MEETING WITH AMY MEADOWS OF THE DOWNTOWN TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT.
THERE ARE SUCH THINGS IN OTHER CITIES WHERE FOUNDATIONS MANAGE THAT SORT OF THING.
I THINK KANSAS CITY, IF I REMEMBER RIGHT, IS ONE OF THOSE.
SO IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE BE COGNIZANT OF WHAT WE'RE DOING ON THE SITE, BUT THAT WE ALSO COLLABORATE WITH OUR OTHER PARK BRETHREN IN TERMS OF HOW THEY ARE DOING THINGS, BECAUSE WE CAN LEARN FROM EACH OTHER, AND COLLABORATION IS KEY HERE.
BUT GOING BACK TO WHAT MR. MORENO WAS TALKING ABOUT, YOU COULD ADD A $2 FEE AND THAT MONEY GOES TO THE MAINTENANCE FUND WHEN YOU PARK, I DON'T KNOW, OR $0.50 WHATEVER THE MARKET WILL ALLOW.
IF AND AND I, I AM SYMPATHETIC AND EMPATHETIC WITH WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU IN THE MOST RECENT ELECTION, SO WE WILL BE COGNIZANT OF THAT.
PLEASE REMEMBER, WE'RE ALREADY ATTACHING A $2 TICKET FEE.
OKAY. DOS EQUIS YOU ALREADY PASSED THAT ONE.
THAT'S RIGHT. THE NEXT ONE IS BROADWAY DALLAS.
WE WE WILL BRING THAT TO YOU BY JANUARY.
OKAY. THAT'S ACTUALLY A PARKING FEE.
THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS WILL FOLLOW.
AND THAT'S TO GO INTO MAINTENANCE FOR THE PARK.
BUT BECAUSE IN THE BEGINNING, YOU DON'T HAVE ENOUGH MONEY AS COLLATERAL AGAINST YOUR REVENUE BONDS, IT WILL GO TO BE COLLATERAL AGAINST THE REVENUE BONDS THAT WE ARE USING TO IMPROVE THE COTTON BOWL AND OTHER REVENUE PRODUCING BUILDINGS OUT THERE, BUT THAT IS INTENDED AS A COLLECTIVE MAINTENANCE FEE ON THE PARK TO IMPROVE.
JASON'S ALSO BEEN WORKING ON SOME ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IDEAS, AND NORM IS HERE AND NORM IS WORKING WITH US.
WE WOULD LIKE TO FIND A WAY TO UTILIZE HISTORIC TAX CREDITS ON OUR BUILDINGS.
THAT REQUIRES SOME MIND SHIFT FROM THE CITY'S PERSPECTIVE.
BUT WE'LL TALK TO YOU ABOUT THAT.
AND IT'S ONE OF THE FEW PLACES IN THE CITY WHERE YOU COULD USE SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
FINAL QUESTION. WHO'S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PROGRAMING? OF COURSE PROGRAMING, BECAUSE IN THAT IF YOU'RE DOING IT AS A COLLECTIVE, YOU GET, I THINK, BETTER OPPORTUNITIES.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR BLACKMON.
CHAIR ARNOLD, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION? OKAY. DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA ROUND TWO.
THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO TOUCH ON A COUPLE OF WHAT I HEARD.
AND I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP THE FEE.
I THINK THAT THE NEW FEE STRUCTURE IS GOING TO BE VERY HELPFUL.
I WANT MY COLLEAGUES TO HAVE SOME REASSURANCE BECAUSE, ONE, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT I WILL SOUND LIKE A BROKEN RECORD, BUT I WANT TO MAKE SURE AND REEMPHASIZE THAT WHEN WE WENT INTO THIS VENTURE AS A PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WE HAD $353 MILLION IDENTIFIED IN DEFERRED MAINTENANCE, AND WE HAD NO SYSTEMS IN PLACE
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FOR THE CITY TO ACTUALLY ERADICATE THAT NEED.AND WHERE, YOU KNOW, WE OFTEN GET CAUGHT UP IN THESE CONVERSATIONS, I THINK.
AND I SEE, I HEAR, LIKE, EVEN COMPARING OURSELVES TO, LIKE, KLYDE WARREN PARK YOU KNOW, KLYDE WARREN PARK HAS, HAS GOTTEN SUBSTANTIAL PRICE TAG IN BOTH OF OUR MOST RECENT BONDS THEY'RE ALSO ONE OF OUR NEWEST PARKS IN THE ENTIRE SYSTEM.
SO YOU CAN ALREADY SEE THAT THERE'S A CLEAR DISCREPANCY AND A CLEAR, DISPROPORTIONATE INVESTMENT IN OUR CITY'S MINDSET AS A WHOLE. SO WE'VE WE'VE HAD TO BE CREATIVE.
BUT WHEN YOU COUPLE THE SUCCESS OF THE BREMER BILL WITH SOME OF THESE INNOVATIVE IDEAS THAT ARE HAPPENING, ALSO SOME OF THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT TOOLS THAT ARE BEING FORMED AND AND FINALLY COMING TO FRUITION I BELIEVE WE'RE HAVING TO BE CREATIVE, BUT WE'RE ALSO WORKING BACKWARDS WHEN IT COMES TO FAIR PARK. SO I THINK THAT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION IS SOMETHING WE ALL WOULD PUT OUR WEIGHT BEHIND.
WE IT IS IN OUR OUR LEGISLATIVE AGENDA.
IF YOU ALL HAVE SOMEONE HIRED ON, LIKE YOU ALL DID IN THE PAST SESSIONS, WE'D LOVE TO COLLABORATE WITH THEM TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE ROWING IN THE SAME DIRECTION DOWN AT THE LEGISLATURE. THERE ARE SOME INNOVATIVE IDEAS SIMILAR TO THE BREMER BILL THAT COULD GIVE US AN OPPORTUNITY IF AMENDED, LIKE RENTAL CAR TAX, FOR INSTANCE, THAT I'VE BEEN SHOUTING FOR YEARS NOW AND WE'LL BE WORKING ON IN THIS SESSION.
BUT IF YOU ALL HAVE OTHER INITIATIVES THAT REQUIRE THE LEGISLATURE, WE SEEM TO HAVE A VERY BROAD BIPARTISAN SUPPORT DOWN IN AUSTIN, AND WE'VE ALREADY GOT MOMENTUM THAT THEY'VE INVESTED IN.
SO I ENCOURAGE YOU TO LEAN INTO TOOLS THAT WILL REQUIRE US TO WORK DOWN IN AUSTIN NEXT SESSION.
IT'S DONE NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY.
IT'S DONE NOTHING FOR THE PARK.
DOES ANYBODY HAPPEN TO KNOW HOW MANY PARKING SPACES KLYDE WARREN PARK HAS? ZERO. OKAY. JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE AND SAY THAT THAT IS THERE ON RECORD, BECAUSE TAKING AWAY SOME OF THIS PARKING IS REALLY HELPING SHIFT THE MINDSET.
WE'VE GOT TO LEAN ON OUR PARTNERS IN THE STATE FAIR OF TEXAS SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE THE ONES THAT USE THE PARKING AT ITS FULLEST CAPACITY, BUT THEY ALSO HAVE QUITE A BIT OF REAL ESTATE ON THE OUTSIDE THAT ALSO SITS VACANT 11 MONTHS OUT OF THE YEAR AND IS JUST USED FOR THEIR PARKING.
SO I AM EXCITED TO SEE THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY BEING A LITTLE BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE IN TAKING STANCES LIKE THIS MASTER PLAN THAT'S GOING TO REMOVE SOME OF THIS SURFACE PARKING THAT DOES NOTHING FOR THE COMMUNITY MOVING FORWARD, THAT WE'RE GOING TO LEAN ON OUR PARTNERS WHO ACTUALLY DO NEED THOSE SPACES, AND THEY'RE GOING TO HAVE TO GENERATE REVENUE AND MAINTAIN THEIR OWN ASSETS TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THIS PARKING, INSTEAD OF IT FALLING ON THE BACKS OF THE CITY ON THE BACKS OF THE RESIDENTS OF SOUTH DALLAS.
SO I JUST WANT TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE THINGS THAT I HEARD TODAY, BECAUSE I THINK THAT YOU ALL ARE APPROACHING THIS VERY CONSCIOUS OF NOT ONLY HISTORIC CONTEXT, BUT HOW WE CAN MAKE THIS SUCCESSFUL MOVING FORWARD.
IN FACT, WHEN WE APPROVE, HOPEFULLY SOON, THE AUTHORIZED HEARING FOR PD 595, WE'RE ACTUALLY GOING TO BE KIND OF SPEARHEADING AND PIONEERING REMOVING PARKING REQUIREMENTS ALL AROUND SOUTH DALLAS.
SO JUST WANTED TO ADD SOME CONTEXT TO THAT.
AND I THINK IT'S GREAT FEEDBACK THAT WE NEED TO GET VERY PROACTIVE ON THE FEE STRUCTURE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE HAVE SOME SORT OF SUSTAINABLE REVENUE THAT'S STAYING INSIDE OF THE PARK.
WE ALSO HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF A HOTEL BEING BUILT THERE.
RIGHT. AND SO LOOKING AT THAT POTENTIAL LEGISLATION THAT'S A LITTLE BIT UNCONVENTIONAL SINCE WE ARE SITTING ON PARK LAND AND MAKING SURE THAT THERE'S A RECAPTURE AND THAT WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THE SAME THING HAPPEN AGAIN, THAT WE'RE GOING TO GENERATE REVENUE, AND IT'S GOING TO GO ALL OUTSIDE OF THE PARK AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
THAT SHOULD BE THE BIGGEST FOCUS MOVING FORWARD, IN MY OPINION.
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THE $30 MILLION, IS THAT HARD DOLLARS OR THOSE COMMITMENT DOLLARS? I WILL ALLOW MISS STEVENS TO ANSWER.SO A PORTION OF THE 30 INCLUDES WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN SPENT FOR THE PARK.
THAT'S ONE IT INCLUDES OF ROUGHLY ABOUT $6 MILLION IN PLEDGES FROM THE PHILANTHROPIC COMMUNITY.
AND IT INCLUDES THREE AWARDED PUBLIC GRANTS.
TWO THAT HAVE BEEN WHO HAVE COME THROUGH APPROPRIATION AND TEXAS PARKS AND WILDLIFE.
AND ARE THOSE DOLLARS SITTING IN SECURELY IN THE DALLAS FOUNDATION ACCOUNT NOW? THE PLEDGES THAT COME IN GO TO THE DALLAS FOUNDATION.
THE PUBLIC FUNDING IS DISPERSED IN THE WAY THAT'S APPROPRIATE WITH EACH GRANT.
GOOD. THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO HEAR.
HAVE WE DONE A STUDY ON ANY POTENTIAL NAMING RIGHTS AND WHAT THAT WOULD BRING IN IN REVENUE? THAT'S HEATHER'S AREA OF EXPERTISE IN TERMS OF NAMING.
SO YES, WITHIN THE PARK AND WITH OTHER LOCATIONS.
PERFECT. CERTAINLY. CERTAINLY THE AND IF YOU REMEMBER THE CONTRACT WITH OVG IN OTHER AREAS OF THE PARK, THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO GET SPONSORSHIPS AND THOSE WOULD INCLUDE SOME SOME NAMING IN PLACES LIKE THE COTTON BOWL.
BUT HERE ON THIS PARK IT'S LARGER.
IT'S CORPORATIONS, INDIVIDUAL PHILANTHROPISTS AND IT STATE OR GOVERNMENT FUNDING.
AND THEN WE USE SPONSORSHIPS IN PLACES LIKE THIS FOR PROGRAMING.
ALYSSA DOES A LOT OF SECURING, CEREAL MARKET FOR EXAMPLE WE TARGET AND OTHERS HAVE BEEN UNDERWRITING OUR OUR COMMUNITY PROGRAMING.
SO WE WILL WE WILL DO THAT AS WELL.
OKAY. AND I'M NOT SURE IF I HEARD THE ANSWER TO THIS EARLIER, BUT THE WHO WILL MANAGE THE DAY TO DAY MAINTENANCE UPKEEP OF THE PARK ONCE IT'S DELIVERED.
WHO IS RESPONSIBLE? IT WILL BE FAIR PARK FIRST.
ARE YOU ASKING IF IT'S THE CITY? RIGHT. BECAUSE. RIGHT. RIGHT NOW WE'RE TAKING CARE OF SOME OF THE GROUND OPERATIONS.
RIGHT. AND AT AS OF PROBABLY TOMORROW OR WEDNESDAY, I SHOULD SAY THERE IS.
YES. OF MOVING THAT FROM OVG OVER TO THE CITY.
BUT I WOULD ANTICIPATE THIS PARK WOULD BE MORE OUR RESPONSIBILITY.
BUT THAT'S NOT FINALIZED AT THIS POINT BECAUSE WE'RE STILL UNTANGLING THE OVG PIECE IN TERMS OF THE GROUNDS MAINTENANCE AT THE PARK.
AND SO I JUST HOPE THAT WE ARE TALKING TO EACH OTHER IN THE EVENT THAT THE CITY, THE PARK DEPARTMENT WILL BE RESPONSIBLE FOR A VERY BASIC UPKEEP OF THE PARK, LIKE WE DO HAVE PARTNERSHIPS WITH OTHER PARTNERS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. AND WE STAY CLOSELY ALIGNED WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
I TALK WITH THEM EVERY FEW DAYS TO MAKE SURE WE'RE STAYING IN ALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE NOT VEERING OFF AND DOING SOMETHING THAT IS COUNTER TO WHAT THEY WISH, AND THAT BY THE SAME TOKEN, THEY'RE NOT VEERING OFF AND DOING SOMETHING THAT WOULD BE COUNTER TO WHAT WE WOULD DO.
SO I CAN ASSURE YOU, WE'LL BE CLOSELY ALIGNED EXACTLY HOW THAT PARK WILL BE MAINTAINED.
MAYOR PRO TEM, I LOOK FORWARD TO THE GROUNDBREAKING AND RIBBON CUTTING.
DID YOU GET AN INVITATION FOR THIS FRIDAY? WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL ALL.
JUST SO YOU KNOW, A LITTLE SOMETHING FOR FRIDAY.
OKAY. THANK YOU. I THINK THAT COVERS EVERYTHING IT'S BEEN LISTENING CHAIR, COUNCIL MEMBERS.
ONE OF THE THINGS, EXCUSE ME, JUST POPPED UP IN MY MIND WHEN WE WERE TALKING.
EXCUSE ME. AND THIS IS SOMETHING, MISS PEREIRA THE CITY MANAGER.
I'M GOING TO WORK WITH YOU ALL ON.
WE KNOW WE'RE NOW IN A STATE THAT IS EMBRACING POLICIES THAT ARE ANTI DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
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AND I THINK AS A CITY, WE NEED TO BEGIN TO LOOK AT A POLICY THAT WILL AND PERHAPS I DON'T KNOW THE LEGAL PART OF IT, AND I'LL GET WITH THE LEGAL TEAM ON THAT.BUT I THINK YOU ALL SHOULD REALLY WORK ON NOT ON A POLICY THAT WOULD PROHIBIT YOU FROM DOING BUSINESS WITH COMPANIES THAT HAVE PUSHED BACK ON DIVERSITY AND INCLUSION.
SO I DON'T KNOW WHO ALL YOU'RE DOING BUSINESS WITH, BUT IT SEEMS TO BE A TREND NOW, AND THERE'S NO WAY IN THE WORLD WE SHOULD BE USING TAXPAYERS DOLLARS TO WORK AGAINST THE PEOPLE IN THIS CITY.
SO I DID WANT TO PUT THAT ON THE RECORD.
THANK YOU. WE WE WE DO, MISS ARNOLD.
OUR OUR DIVERSITY NUMBERS ARE HIGHER THAN THE CITY.
NUMBER TWO, OUR BOARD IS SIX OF SIX OF OUR BOARD LIVE IN THE ZIP CODE SPECIFICALLY DESIGNATED BY THE PARK DEPARTMENT AS FAIR PARK ZIP CODES.
AND MORE THAN HALF OF OUR OF OUR BOARD IS BLACK OR LATINO.
OKAY, I'M NOT SPEAKING ABOUT YOUR BOARD.
THOSE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT I'M WORKING ON.
I'VE BEEN AROUND LONG ENOUGH TO KIND OF UNDERSTAND THE DYNAMICS OF THE HISTORY OF WHERE WE ARE TODAY, BUT I JUST KNOW THAT IT'S BECOMING, IT SEEMS, TO BECOMING MORE COMFORTABLE FOR COMPANIES TO ADOPT THESE PRACTICES BECAUSE THEY ARE AFRAID OF SOME TYPE OF RETALIATION.
AND I THINK AS DALLAS WE OUGHT TO STAND STRONG AND EMBRACING OUR COMMITMENT TO EQUITY, WHICH WE'VE BEEN ON FOR SOME YEARS, STARTING, OF COURSE, WITH THE CITY MANAGER, BROADNAX. AND I THINK WE SHOULD NOT LET THAT GO AND WE SHOULDN'T LET IT GO, PERIOD.
BECAUSE WHATEVER WE DO SHOULD REPRESENT FAIR PARK NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO LOOK LIKE US.
SO I DID WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT SO YOU ALL I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT THE BOARD.
IT IS WHO WE'RE SPENDING OUR TAX DOLLARS WITH TO DEVELOP THIS PROJECT FOR US, WE THE PEOPLE.
SULLIVAN AT UTD ARE THE ONES WHO DID THE ARCHEOLOGICAL WORK FOR US AND AT THE LITTLE EGYPT SITE.
SO I'LL WORK TO MAKE A CONNECTION WITH YOU ALL OKAY WITH THAT THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH.
YOU ALL ARE ON TRACK AND MAKING PROGRESS.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM B.
WE HAVE A PROJECT UPDATE ON THE CHALK HILL TRAIL PROJECT GIVEN BY DALLAS COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR ASSISTANT DIRECTOR TUSHAR SOLANKI. I HOPE I HAVEN'T BUTCHERED THAT TOO TERRIBLY.
WE ALSO HAVE KOMALA NARRA, WHO IS A PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE COUNTY.
AND IF THERE'S ANYONE ELSE, IF YOU WOULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELF.
IT LOOKS LIKE WE ALSO HAVE CHRIS AND JARED FROM PARKS.
I'LL GO AHEAD AND INTRODUCE MYSELF SINCE I WASN'T ON THE LIST OF PEOPLE TO BE LISTED HERE.
MY NAME IS ALBERTA BLAIR, AND I'M THE DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC WORKS FOR DALLAS COUNTY.
AND AS MENTIONED, TUSHAR SOLANKI IS ASSISTANT DIRECTOR IN PUBLIC WORKS AND KOMALA NARRA, SHE'S OUR PROJECT MANAGER FOR THE CHALK HILL PROJECT.
OKAY. I'LL GO AHEAD AND GET STARTED.
AND ONE OTHER PERSON HERE IN THE AUDIENCE IS BLANCA TORRES WITH DR.
GARCIA'S OFFICE, SHE'S ALSO HERE AS WELL.
BUT WE DO APPRECIATE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO COME BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT THIS PROJECT.
THAT'S BEEN A LONG TIME COMING.
AND WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO HERE IS MOST OF THIS WILL BE PRESENTED BY TUSHAR AND KOMALA.
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SO NEXT SLIDE.SO AGAIN, I THINK YOU KIND OF KNOW A LOT OF THE PLAYERS HERE, A LOT OF OUR COMMISSIONERS AND OUR JUDGE WHO ARE STRONGLY COMMITTED TO PARKS AND TRAIL PROJECTS. WE'VE DONE MANY PROJECTS WITH YOU IN EVERY DISTRICT.
BUT THIS ONE RIGHT HERE IS DEFINITELY DR.
GARCIA'S DISTRICT, WHICH IS VERY IMPORTANT FOR HER DISTRICT WITH THIS TRAIL PROJECT.
NEXT SLIDE. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE.
THANK YOU. AND AGAIN OUR MISSION IS DEFINITELY TO DO THESE TRAIL TYPES.
WE'RE DEFINITELY A REGIONAL PLAYER WORKING WITH COG WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS, AND AND OUR WHOLE GOAL IS TO INITIALLY GET PROJECTS GOING AND THEN OF COURSE, WORK CLOSELY WITH THE COUNCIL OF GOVERNMENTS AND ALSO WITH TXDOT TO FACILITATE THESE TYPE OF PROJECTS.
NEXT SLIDE. SO NOW I'M GOING TO TURN IT OVER TO TUSHAR SOLANKI TO GIVE YOU A GENERAL OVERVIEW OF WHAT WE'VE BEEN DOING IN THE PAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AGAIN I'M TUSHAR SOLANKI, ASSISTANT DIRECTOR WITH DALLAS COUNTY PUBLIC WORKS.
THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO UPDATE ON THE PROJECT.
THIS CHALK HILL TRAIL IS A GREAT CONNECTIVITY PROJECT AS WE DO WORK ON MANY MULTIMODAL TRAILS AT DALLAS COUNTY. WE ALWAYS CHECK ON OUR REGIONAL MOBILITY WITH COG AND MAKE SURE THAT THE OVERALL CONNECTIVITY IS HAPPENING THROUGH THE CHALK HILL TRAIL IS REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY.
SO THIS PROJECT, AS YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP, IS DIVIDED INTO MULTIPLE PHASES STARTING FROM SOUTH, THAT IS STARTING AT THE WESTMORELAND DOT STATION, GOING NORTH TO THE DAVIS STREET AT CHALK HILL. AND THE ENTIRE CORRIDOR IS CHANGING A GREAT ELEVATIONS THROUGHOUT.
AND I REMEMBER BEING INVOLVED IN THE [INAUDIBLE] CORRIDOR.
IT HAS A GREAT RESEMBLANCE WITH THIS CORRIDOR.
SO BUT I WANTED TO POINT OUT, AS I MENTIONED, ABOUT THE REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY AT THE SOUTH, IT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THE FIVE MILE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS UNDER EARLY PHASES OF PLANNING.
AND ON THE NORTH SIDE, IT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THE COOMBS CREEK TRAIL.
AS I MENTIONED ABOUT THE REGIONAL CONNECTIVITY, THIS TRAIL, AS YOU CAN SEE IN RED, IT WILL EVENTUALLY CONNECT TO THE FIVE MILE CORRIDOR, WHICH IS IN LIGHT BLUE, WHICH CONNECTS NORTH TO THE HONEY SPRINGS TRAIL ON THE EASTERN SIDE, IT IS OVERALL CONNECTING TO THE LOOP TRAIL AND ON THE SOUTH SIDE, WHERE COG STUDIED THE REGIONAL RAILWAY CONNECTION FROM MULTIPLE CITIES, STARTING WEST FROM GRAND PRAIRIE TO GOING EAST TO LANCASTER AND EVENTUALLY CONNECTING TO THE RUNYAN TRAIL GOING TOWARDS THE FIVE MILE CORRIDOR.
SO JUST LOVE THIS MAP THAT SHOWS A GREAT CONNECTIVITY AND MODEL BEING INTO THE REGIONAL MOBILITY IN COMPLIANCE WITH 2045 COG MOBILITY.
SO I'LL PROVIDE SOME UPDATES ON THE PROJECT AND SOME HISTORY.
THESE ARE SOME PHOTOS OF THE CORRIDOR.
SO AS WE STARTED ON THIS PROJECT THE PROJECT WAS IN THE TAP PROGRAM AT THE DALLAS COUNTY, AND IT WAS UNDER PLANNING AND DESIGN PER THE LOCAL DESIGN STANDARDS.
AND DALLAS COUNTY WAS WORKING CLOSELY WITH THE CITY OF DALLAS HAVING THE INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT.
AS WE ADVANCED INTO THE PROJECT, THE PROJECT DID NOT HAVE THE FULL FUNDING
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AVAILABLE. AND ALSO THE CORRIDOR HAD MANY CHALLENGES.SO IN ORDER TO STRATEGICALLY DIVIDE THE TRAIL INTO MULTIPLE PHASES AND ADDRESS EACH PHASE WITH ADDITIONAL FUNDING AVAILABLE FROM, FROM THE FUTURE OR FROM THE FEDERAL FUNDING.
WHAT WE DID, WE DIVIDED INTO THREE PHASES, AS I MENTIONED EARLIER.
AND THE FIRST PHASE FROM COCKRELL HILL TO GINGER AVENUE THAT WE APPLIED FOR THE FEDERAL GRANT IN 2022, WE RECEIVED THE TRANSPORTATION ALTERNATIVE PROGRAM GRANT FROM COG.
AND THE WAY THAT THEY LOOKED AT THIS TRAIL THAT THIS TRAIL DID NOT HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY CHALLENGES.
AND ALSO THE OTHER RISKS THAT THAT WERE ABLE TO BE MITIGATED.
SO THE GRANT WAS APPROVED AND WE ENTERED INTO THE ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT AFTER THE RTC APPROVAL.
SO THE THAT'S WHEN WE ALSO APPLIED FOR THE ARP FUNDING AVAILABLE AND THAT ARP FUNDING WAS VERY HELPFUL TO CONVERT THE DESIGN FROM LOCAL STANDARDS TO FEDERAL STANDARDS IN COMPLIANCE WITH WHAT THE TASA SET ASIDE GRANT APPROVED.
ONE ONE ASPECT OF IT WITH THE TASA SET ASIDE THAT HAD COME WITH THE CONSTRUCTION LEARNING REQUIREMENT, THAT HAS TO BE BY 2025 DECEMBER.
SO WE ARE WELL INTO THE DESIGN RIGHT NOW.
KICKOFF HAS HAPPENED AND WE ARE MAKING GREAT PROGRESS, AND WE ARE WELL INTO INTO THE OVERALL TIMELINE THAT WE HAVE SET BY DECEMBER 2025.
BUT THESE ARP FUNDS HAS ALSO HELPED US TO SECURE THE DESIGN WORK ORDER WITH THE CONSULTANT.
NOT ONLY THAT, WITH THE PHASE ONE, BUT AT THE SAME TIME, PHASE TWO THAT WE ALSO HAVE SECURED THE ARP FUNDING, WHICH REALLY HELPED US TO OR HELPING US TO MAKE THIS SEGMENT SHOVEL READY FOR THE FUTURE AVAILABLE FEDERAL GRANT OPPORTUNITIES.
AND THEN THE LAST SEGMENT THAT WAS OR THAT IS STILL UNDER THE RIGHT OF WAY, ACQUISITION BY THE CITY OF DALLAS.
AND OVERALL, WE APPRECIATE THE CITY OF DALLAS TAKING THE LEAD ON THE RIGHT OF WAY AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT, BECAUSE THIS HAD A LOT OF RIGHT OF WAY CHALLENGES AND THE ENVIRONMENTAL CHALLENGES TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE TCEQ.
AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO MAKE SURE THAT ALL THOSE CRITICAL ITEMS THAT WE DEFINE INTO OUR PSA DOCUMENTS, SO WE CONTINUE TO STAY IN COMPLIANCE THROUGHOUT THE PROJECT DEVELOPMENT.
AND AS I MENTIONED, THE CHALLENGES, THE RIGHT OF WAY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL, AND THE FUNDING CONSTRAINTS AND THE DESIGN.
SO WE HAVE GREAT CHALLENGES, BUT WE ARE DESPITE OF ALL THE CHALLENGES.
THAT WE HAVE ACHIEVED MANY THINGS, AS I MENTIONED ABOUT THE TCEQ COMPLIANCE THAT THAT WE ARE CONTINUE TO STAY WITHIN THAT PURVIEW.
WE ARE CONTINUING TO KEEP OUR PARTNERS, INCLUDING THE CITY COG AND TXDOT IN THE LOOP ALONG WITH THE OTHER KEY STAKEHOLDERS.
AARP FUNDING, WHICH WAS SUPPOSED TO BE OBLIGATED PRIOR TO THE 2024 FOR DESIGN, WHICH WE ALREADY HAVE EXECUTED ALL THOSE AGREEMENTS. TXDOT AGREEMENT FOR PHASE ONE IS EXECUTED AND THE DESIGN KICKOFF ALSO FOR TXDOT HAVE BEEN CONDUCTED FOR PHASE ONE AND PHASE TWO.
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KOMALA NARRA, TO UPDATE ON THAT.THANK YOU TUSHAR. GOOD MORNING EVERYONE.
GOING INTO PHASES FIRST ONE IS PHASE ONE.
THAT ONE IS FROM GINGER AVENUE TO COCKER HILL AND THEN ILLINOIS INTERSECTION.
IT'S A 12 FOOT WIDE TRAIL, AND THEN IT HAS ACCESS TO GINGER AVENUE/POSADA.
AND THEN ONE AT RIDGEVIEW LANE.
RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, WE DO HAVE [INAUDIBLE] IN PLACE.
ADVANCED FUNDING AGREEMENT WITH TXDOT IN PLACE FOR PHASE ONE.
PHASE ONE RECEIVED TXDOT AND THE COG FEDERAL DOLLARS.
TASA TRANSPORTATION SET ASIDE FUNDING.
CLOSE TO $3.5 MILLION TOWARDS CONSTRUCTION.
SO WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD RIGHT NOW.
WE HAD A CONSULTANT AGREEMENT EXECUTED AUGUST OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE FAA EXECUTED WITH TXDOT OCTOBER OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN WE DO WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING WITH TXDOT.
AND THEN WE ALSO HAD A KICKOFF MEETING WITH TXDOT ENVIRONMENTAL DEPARTMENT TWO SO THAT WITH THE CONSULTANT AND THEN ENVIRONMENTAL INITIAL DOCUMENTS WERE SUBMITTED TO TXDOT OCTOBER 15TH OF THIS YEAR AND THEN ON NOVEMBER 22ND, WE RECEIVED COMMENTS ON THE SCHEMATIC WE SUBMITTED TO THE TXDOT FOR PHASE ONE.
THAT'S THE LATEST UPDATE ON THAT PROJECT.
LET ME SEE IF I'M MISSING ANYTHING.
THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU WHO ARE THE PARTNERS FOR THE PHASE ONE.
DALLAS COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS, TXDOT COG.
AND THEN AZ&B IS OUR CONSULTANT PARTNER ON THIS ONE.
THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU THE PROJECT SCHEDULE.
WE HAVE A TENTATIVE SCHEDULE FOR FALL 2025.
THIS SLIDE GIVES YOU THE FUNDING SOURCES AVAILABLE FOR PHASE ONE.
DALLAS COUNTY HAS PUT IN $6.7 MILLION TOWARDS DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
AND THEN CITY OF DALLAS HAS PUT TOWARDS ENVIRONMENTAL CLOSE TO $456 K TXDOT AND FEDERAL FOR CONSTRUCTION ONLY THAT WOULD BE $3.412553 MILLION.
IN TOTAL WE DO HAVE A FOR PHASE ONE $11.4 MILLION AT THIS TIME TOWARDS DESIGN AND CONSTRUCTION.
PHASE TWO IS FROM CHALK HILL ROAD TO GINGER AVENUE.
FOR THIS ONE, IT'S THE SAME THING, THE TYPICAL SECTION IS THE SAME ONE THAT WILL BE 12FT WIDE.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE TWO PEDESTRIAN BRIDGES IN THIS PHASE TWO.
AND THEN ONE WILL BE A WOODEN TRESTLE BRIDGE THAT NEEDS TO BE REMOVED AND THEN REPLACED.
AND THEN BOTH THOSE WOODEN BRIDGES WILL BE 14FT WIDE.
WE ARE WORKING WITH CITY OF DALLAS ON RENEWING OUR INTERLOCAL AGREEMENT FOR ALL THREE PHASES.
WE DO WE DO HAVE ARPA FUNDING FOR DESIGN ONLY AND FOR PHASE TWO.
AND THEN WE DO HAVE A CONSULTANT ON BOARD RIGHT NOW FOR PHASE TWO.
WE DO WE HAD A KICKOFF MEETING FOR PHASE TWO.
THIS IS DESIGN TEAM ON PROJECT TEAM FOR PHASE TWO.
WE DO HAVE DALLAS COUNTY, CITY OF DALLAS, AND THEN OUR CONSULTANT IS MVE ENGINEERING.
AND THEN THIS IS THE SCHEDULE FOR PHASE TWO.
WE DO HAVE ARPA FUNDING ON THIS ONE.
DESIGN WE DID HAD A DESIGN KICKOFF FALL OF THIS YEAR.
AND THEN DESIGN COMPLETION FOR PHASE TWO WOULD BE SPRING OF 2026.
AND THEN AT THIS TIME, WE DO NOT HAVE ANY CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR PHASE TWO.
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NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.FUNDING SOURCES AVAILABLE FOR PHASE TWO IS ARPA FUNDING FOR DESIGN ONLY FROM DALLAS COUNTY.
CLOSE TO $832 K, AND THEN NO CONSTRUCTION FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR PHASE TWO.
THE NEXT ONE WOULD BE PHASE THREE.
THAT ONE WOULD BE FROM ILLINOIS AVENUE ALL THE WAY TO WESTMORELAND DART STATION.
WE DO HAVE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUISITION THAT IS PENDING.
AND THEN ENVIRONMENTAL THAT IS PENDING ON THIS PHASE.
CITY OF DALLAS HAS PARTNERED WITH TRUST FOR PUBLIC LAND.
AND THEN WITH THE TXDOT, THEY RECEIVED FUNDING FOR FIVE MILE CREEK AND THEN A PORTION OF PHASE THREE THAT IS FROM WESTMORELAND DART STATION TO COOM BS CREEK DRIVE HAS BEEN INCLUDED IN THE FIVE MILE CREEK.
THAT'S ALL FROM FROM MY SIDE ON UPDATES FROM CHALK HILL TRAIL.
THANK YOU. AND THAT'S IT THAT WE HAVE FOR TODAY FOR OUR UPDATE.
THANK YOU. YES, I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS FROM MY COLLEAGUES.
AND THANK YOU. SPECIAL THANKS TO THE CHAIR AND TO STAFF FOR BRINGING THIS HERE.
I DIDN'T KNOW MUCH ABOUT CHALK HILL TRAIL.
AND I'M EXCITED TO CONTINUE WORKING WITH DR.
GARCIA AND BLANCA AND YOUR TEAM ON ON THIS.
SO QUESTIONS TO JUST MAKE SURE I GOT THIS RIGHT.
GOT IT. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE MOVING OUT ON.
OKAY. SO THEN PHASE TWO WE HAVE FUNDING.
AND THAT'S THE ONE RIGHT TO THE EAST OF MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE.
WE HAVE FUNDING FOR DESIGN ONLY FOR PHASE TWO.
DOES THE DESIGN WORK INCLUDE A CONNECTION AT ALL FROM THE TRAIL INTO MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE WHERE IT BECAUSE THERE'S THERE'S LIKE A WHOLE TRAIL SYSTEM WITHIN MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE THAT I'VE JUST LEARNED ABOUT.
WE WILL BE CONNECTING TO RIDGE VIEW LANE.
AND THAT'S THE TRAILS NORTH OF MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE.
AND LIKE THEIR WHOLE WOODED AREA OVER THERE.
NORTH OF MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE.
SO THAT WILL BE DALLAS NATIONAL GOLF CLUB, RIGHT? OH, IT IS PHASE ONE. I'M SORRY.
SO IT DOES CONNECT. SO THERE'S, ARE YOU GUYS FAMILIAR WITH THE TRAIL SYSTEM NORTH OF MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE? IT'S LIKE ON THEIR CAMPUS.
YES. WE WE WILL BE CONNECTING TO AN EXISTING SIDEWALK.
AND THEN FROM THERE, LIKE, YOU KNOW, THE EXISTING SIDEWALK TAKES IT TO THE MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE.
WE WILL BE CONNECTING ONLY WITHIN OUR RIGHT OF WAY.
OH, SO YOU'RE USING THE RIGHT OF WAY TO GET FROM THEIR TRAIL TO YOUR TRAIL? NO, WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE DIRECTLY CONNECTING TO MOUNTAIN VIEW COLLEGE TRAIL SYSTEM.
WE WILL BE CONNECTING TO AN EXISTING SIDEWALK ON RIDGE VIEW LANE.
THAT'S ALL RIGHT NOW, AT THIS TIME.
OKAY. THAT HELPS ME GET A PICTURE OF WHERE WE'RE AT THERE.
AND THEN PHASE THREE IS THE CITY LED PORTION OF THIS.
I'M GLAD TO HAVE OUR CITY FOLKS HERE.
SO DO WE HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY ACQUIRED AS PART OF PHASE THREE THAT WE NEED TO FULLY CONNECT THE TRAIL TO THE DART STATION AND TO TO MEET PHASE THREE REQUIREMENTS? THANK YOU CHAIR WEST. CHRIS TURNER WITH THE PARK DEPARTMENT.
WE DO NOT CURRENTLY HAVE THAT RIGHT OF WAY ACQUIRED.
SO WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL TO TRY AND REACQUIRE THAT RIGHT OF WAY.
IS THE RIGHT OF WAY THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACQUIRE, IS IT DEVELOPABLE OR IS IT IS IT LIKE A RAILROAD, OLD RAILROAD AREA OR WHAT IS IT EXACTLY? WHAT'S THE MAKEUP OF IT? MY UNDERSTANDING IS IT IS AN OLD RAILROAD BED THAT WE ARE TRYING TO ACQUIRE.
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IT IS PART OF THE DART.IT WAS PREVIOUSLY PART OF DART RIGHT OF WAY.
AND DART SOLD IT TO A PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL.
SO AS I SAID, WE ARE WORKING WITH THAT PRIVATE INDIVIDUAL TO TRY AND.
WELL, THANKS DART. WHAT ABOUT IS THERE A PLAN TO CONNECT THE TRAIL ALL THE WAY TO THE OAK CLIFF NATURE PRESERVE? I'M GOING TO LET JARED ADDRESS THAT, IF YOU WOULD, PLEASE.
TRYING TO FORM A. GOOD MORNING, SIR.
JARED WHITE WITH THE PARKS DEPARTMENT.
I'M NOT PICTURING IN MY MIND WHERE I KNOW WHERE THE PRESERVE IS.
IT'LL GET YOU OVER TO KIEST PARK.
WE THEN HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW TO CONNECT TO THE NATURE PRESERVE.
WE GET CLOSE, BUT WE'D HAVE TO LOOK AT HOW TO MAKE THAT CONNECTION.
I KNOW WE'RE VERY LIMITED ON FUNDS.
SHOULD WE ASSUME THAT ALL DESIGN WORK, AND CERTAINLY INFRASTRUCTURE WORK IS GOING TO COME FROM FEDERAL FUNDING OR OTHER OUTSIDE SOURCES? FOR PHASE THREE YES. SO A PART OF THE FIVE MILE CREEK PROJECT, THERE ARE THREE FIVE MILE CREEK PROJECTS.
THAT'S WHERE THE TRAIL TURNS AND GOES SOUTH.
SO PART OF THAT WILL BE FUNDED THROUGH THE FIVE MILE CREEK PROJECT.
SO WE'LL NEED TO GET THOSE THE PROPERTY ISSUES WORKED OUT OR LOOK AT A REALIGNMENT.
BUT THAT WILL HAPPEN THROUGH THE FIVE MILE CREEK PROJECT.
CAN YOU GO BACK TO THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS ONE AND SHOW ME WHERE THAT IS? I KNOW IT'S HARD ON THAT SLIDE.
YEAH. SO SO YOU HAVE THE DART STATION.
RIGHT. IF YOU FOLLOW THAT LINE, THE RED LINE LEFT, OR TO THE WEST.
YEAH. TOWARD, YOU MIGHT SEE COOMBS CREEK DRIVE ON THAT MAP, IT'S A LITTLE FAINT, BUT RIGHT BEFORE THE TRAIL MAKES THE TURN TO THE NORTHWEST, IT'S FROM THE STATION BACK TO COOMBS CREEK DRIVE, WHERE THE TRAIL STARTS TO TURN TO THE NORTHWEST IS WHAT IS INCLUDED IN THE FIVE MILE CREEK PROJECT.
SO WE'LL DO ABOUT HALF OF THAT RED LINE.
WELL, I'M GOING TO I HAVE A LOT MORE QUESTIONS TO FOLLOW UP WITH YOU GUYS.
BUT IT GETS REALLY IN THE WEEDS SO I WON'T HOLD UP MY COLLEAGUES.
ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? YES. YES, YES. I HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN YOU CHAIR NARVAEZ.
THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. THIS IS ALL EXCITING.
THIS IS ANOTHER MODE OF TRANSPORTATION AND ONE THAT WE KIND OF HEARD FOLKS TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST BRIEFING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, REALLY GETTING PEOPLE TO EITHER BIKE OR WALK OR WHATEVER.
OTHER MICROMOBILITY CAPABILITY IS AVAILABLE.
AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE I'M NOT APPRECIATIVE OF THIS PROJECT BECAUSE I COMPLETELY AM.
AND THIS PROJECT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.
BUT I REMEMBER HAVING A CONVERSATION YEARS AND YEARS AGO, AND OVER THE YEARS IT'S CONTINUED.
SO I'M GOING TO JUST BRING IT UP AGAIN MADAM CHAIR IS ON CONNECTIVITY, CONNECTIVITY, CONNECTIVITY.
THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY IN TRAILS, AND THAT'S WEST DALLAS.
AND SO THAT'S JUST SOMETHING THAT IT'S GETTING JUST IT'S REALLY CLOSE.
BUT THERE'S NO CONNECTIVITY TO GETTING WEST DALLAS BROUGHT IN TO THIS ENTIRE SYSTEM.
SO THE LEVIES SOUNDS GREAT, EXCEPT FOR ALL OF THIS IS ON THE EASTERN SIDE OF THE LEVIES WHEN YOU GET TO THE CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE YOU TALK ABOUT SKYLINE TRAIL.
BUT NONE OF THAT IS ACTUALLY IN WEST DALLAS OR CONNECTS TO WEST DALLAS.
SO I GUESS MY QUESTION IS, IS ON THIS CONNECTIVITY THAT WE'RE GETTING SO CLOSE THAT WE'VE GOT AN ENTIRE RIVER AND FREEWAY SYSTEM WITH 30 ON THE SOUTH, AND THEN YOU HAVE THE LEVEES ON THE EAST, WHICH IS BASICALLY 35.
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WHAT IS THE POSSIBILITY OR CHANCES TO GETTING SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY CONNECTS TO WEST DALLAS? AND YOU LOOK AT WEST DALLAS, IT'S A HUGE SWATH OF LAND WHEN YOU'RE GOING FROM THE IRVING BORDER ON THE WEST, YOU HAVE I-30, ON THE SOUTH, YOU HAVE THE LEVEES ON THE EAST AND ALL THE WAY THROUGH THE NORTHERN PART OF WEST DALLAS.WHAT IS THE GOAL OR HOW CAN WE GET CONNECTIVITY? BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO LOOK AT A DIFFERENT FORM OF MOBILITY OR MICRO MOBILITY FOR WEST DALLAS SIMPLY IN, IN IN THAT DART CONNECTS THROUGH BUSSES.
WE MAY BE LOSING OUR PEOPLE MOVER.
WE WITH HIGH SPEED RAIL POSSIBLY MOVING.
WE ALSO HAVE TO LOOK AT WHAT YOU ALL EXPECT OR WHAT WE LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHETHER IT'S COG, WHETHER IT'S THROUGH YOU KNOW, THE COUNTY AND DR.
I DON'T KNOW WHAT THESE LITTLE SPURS WOULD LOOK LIKE OR WHAT THESE CONNECTIONS WOULD LOOK LIKE EVENTUALLY, BUT HAS ANYBODY GOT THIS ON THEIR RADAR BECAUSE THE DESIGNS ARE STILL BEING WORKED ON.
HOW DO WE GET THAT CONNECTION? AND YOU CAN'T JUST SAY THE LEVEES, BECAUSE THE LEVEES ARE ON THE EASTERN SIDE FOR ALL THE TRAIL SYSTEMS ON THE EASTERN LEVEE, NOT ON THE WESTERN LEVEE.
AND I THINK THAT THERE'S A WAY THAT WE COULD CONNECT EITHER TO THE CHALK HILL BIKE TRAIL OR CONNECT TO THE LEVEES OR LOOK AT HOW CAN WE CONNECT TO THE GATEWAY, WHICH IS OF THE OF THE HAROLD SIMMONS PARK.
BECAUSE THIS BECOMES AN EQUITY ISSUE AND WEST DALLAS, WE'VE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE MOVING IN AND SO MANY NEW NEW HOMES, SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL HOMES ALL THE WAY TO APARTMENT BUILDINGS.
WE HAVE AN INFLUX OF PEOPLE, AND WE HAVE THE PARKS.
WE JUST DON'T HAVE THE CONNECTIVITY.
BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO HOLD UP TOO MUCH TIME.
BUT I DEFINITELY NEEDED TO SAY THAT.
BUT ALSO ASK WHAT IS IN THE FUTURE? I WOULD LIKE TO, IF I CAN TAKE A CHANCE.
THAT'S A VERY EXCELLENT QUESTION.
AND IT'S ONE I'D REALLY LIKE TO SPEAK TO YOU FURTHER ABOUT.
THEY FOLLOW DART OR ENCORE, SOMETIMES CREEKS AND OUR RIVERS WHEN WE CAN.
ANY TYPE OF OPEN SPACE, USUALLY LINEAR, THAT'S CRISSCROSSING THE CITY, OLD RAIL LINES, WHATNOT.
THERE ARE PROJECTS IN THE WORKS TO CONNECT.
YOU'RE PROBABLY FAMILIAR WITH THE PROJECT THROUGH THE LOOP TO TO REDO THE SYLVAN AVENUE BRIDGE OVER THE TRINITY, TAKING IT FROM SIX LANES DOWN TO FOUR, PUTTING IN FULL CONCRETE PROTECTED WIDE BIKE LANES ON BOTH SIDES TO GET FROM THE TRINITY STRAND AND THE DESIGN DISTRICT ACROSS THE RIVER DOWN TO THE SKYLINE TRAIL, AND THEN TO THE BIKE LANES THAT ARE BEING WORKED ON WITH OUR TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT THAT CONTINUES SOUTH ON SYLVAN.
THERE IS ALSO A PROJECT THAT WAS IN THE 2024 BOND, ACTUALLY THROUGH THE TRANSPORTATION DEPARTMENT, LOOKING AT BERNAL DRIVE FROM ABOUT, I THINK IT'S SINGLETON HEADING BACK TO THE NORTHEAST, HEADING BACK INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD.
SO THAT WILL HELP WITH EXPANDING THE TRAIL SYSTEM WITHIN THAT PART OF WEST DALLAS.
AND THEN I THINK WE ALSO NEED TO LOOK AT THE BIKE PLAN UPDATE THAT TRANSPORTATION IS WORKING ON, TO SEE HOW THE STREET SYSTEM CAN BE MODIFIED TO ALLOW THIS CONNECTIVITY, EITHER WITH BIKE LANES OR NARROWING THE ROADWAY TO PUT TRAILS ON IT LIKE WE'VE DONE.
BUT THE PRIMARY ISSUE IS WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF JUST OBVIOUS RIGHTS OF WAY TO PUT THESE LINEAR TRAILS, BUT I'D BE HAPPY TO SPEAK WITH YOU WITH THAT FURTHER AND KIND OF GET INTO THE WEEDS ON IT. THANK YOU.
AND I REALLY GREATLY APPRECIATE THAT.
THIS IS A HUGE, HUGE, AMAZING, GREAT PROJECT AND I'M SO EXCITED ABOUT IT.
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AND I'M GLAD TO HEAR YOU ALL BRING UP THOSE THREE PORTIONS THAT WHERE WE COULD HAVE SOME CONNECTIVITY BECAUSE IT IT IS A CHALLENGE AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY THAT WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON IN ORDER TO TRY TO MAKE THIS HAPPEN.AND BERNAL IS DEFINITELY THE STREET THAT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH WHERE YOU COULD CONNECT.
AND WE'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT THIS ONE FOR, YOU KNOW, YEARS.
RIGHT? BECAUSE THIS IS NOT AN EASY ONE.
AND THEN SYLVAN IS DEFINITELY SEEMS LIKE AN EASY ONE, BUT THAT BRIDGE ALREADY HAS A CONCRETE PROTECTED LANE ON IT FOR THE BIKE LANE. AND I WOULD HAVE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE SO EASY JUST TO MOVE THAT BARRIER OVER IN ORDER TO TO MAKE IT PEDESTRIAN WALKWAY SAFE AND I DID NOT KNOW SO MUCH.
WENT INTO MOVING A CONCRETE WALL ON IT THAT'S ON A BRIDGE, AND WE DON'T WANT TO HAVE TO REDO THE BRIDGE COMPLETELY BECAUSE WE ALREADY WENT THROUGH IT ONCE, AND WE DON'T HAVE THE TIME OR MONEY TO BUILD A WHOLE BRAND NEW ONE.
SO THAT ONE, IT'LL BE INTERESTING HOW WE COME UP WITH, WITH A PLAN TO GET THAT CONNECTION.
AND THEN THE OTHER ONE YOU MENTIONED AS WELL.
SO I JUST WANTED TO BRING IT UP AND SAY THANK YOU.
AND THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR, FOR GIVING ME A LITTLE BIT OF LEEWAY FOR THIS CONNECTIVITY AND BUT THIS IS POSITIVE, THAT WE CAN MAKE IT HAPPEN SO THAT THIS SIDE OF THE CITY WON'T BE LEFT OUT.
YOU ARE VERY WELCOME, CHAIR NARVAEZ.
I THINK CONNECTIVITY ALWAYS NEEDS TO BE IN THE CONVERSATION WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT TRAILS.
IT'S GOT WE NEED TO PRIORITIZE CONNECTIVITY, SO THANK YOU.
AND IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS, THEN THANK YOU, DIRECTOR BLAIR AND YOUR TEAM.
EXCITING WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING, AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO FINDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING FOR THE PROJECT OR LOOK FORWARD TO MAYBE YOU ALL FINDING ADDITIONAL FUNDING. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
ALL RIGHT. LET'S MOVE ON TO ITEM C.
WE HAVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE ROWING, SAILING AND CONCESSION CONTRACTS.
THIS OVERVIEW I BELIEVE, IS BEING GIVEN BY CRYSTAL ROSS AND RACHEL BERRY AND OTHERS.
I'M NOT SEEING WHO WAS ON MY AGENDA.
SO IF YOU ALL WOULD JUST INTRODUCE YOURSELVES, PLEASE.
SORRY. GO AHEAD. BRETT WILKIE, SUPERINTENDENT, PARKS AND RECREATION.
OH, GOOD MORNING, RACHAEL BERRY.
I'M THE ASSISTANT DIRECTOR FOR ADMINISTRATION AND BUSINESS SERVICES.
SO WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN IS BRETT'S GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF KIND OF WHAT THOSE AGREEMENTS MIGHT LOOK LIKE WHAT THOSE OBLIGATIONS AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS ARE TO THE PARK SYSTEM. AND THEN OF COURSE, WE'LL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO A NEXT STEPS OR ANY QUESTIONS YOU ALL MIGHT HAVE.
WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'LL GO AHEAD AND TURN THE PRESENTATION OVER TO BRETT.
OKAY, HERE'S A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF ALL OF OUR OPERATING PARTNERS AT WHITE ROCK LAKE AND BACHMAN LAKE.
WE'LL GET STARTED AT WHITE ROCK LAKE WITH OUR ROWING PARTNERS, DALLAS UNITED CREW.
IN 2018, THEY CONSTRUCTED A STORAGE FACILITY TO STORE THEIR ROW EQUIPMENT.
THEY'RE REQUIRED TO MAINTAIN THAT FACILITY AS WELL AS PROVIDE PROGRAMS FOR YOUTH AND ADULT ROWERS.
AND THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEIR UTILITIES.
SO THEY CURRENTLY PAY THE CITY $6,200 ANNUALLY.
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CURRENTLY, THEIR TOTAL MEMBERSHIPS AT 389, AND THAT INCLUDES HIGH SCHOOL, MIDDLE SCHOOL, AND ADULT ROWERS.THEY'RE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE AN ANNUAL PERFORMANCE PLAN THAT SETS OBJECTIVES FOR EACH YEAR, AND AT A MINIMUM, THOSE REQUIRE FOUR ON CAMPUS RECRUITING EVENTS FOR YOUTH ROWERS AND RESIDENTS OF THE CITY OF DALLAS.
INTRODUCTORY ROWING PROGRAMS FOR ADULT AND YOUTH IN THE COMMUNITY.
THEY PROVIDED AN UPDATE TO THE PREMISE BACK IN 2018.
THEY PAVED THEIR PARKING LOT AT A COST OF $175,000.
YOU'LL SEE THAT KIND OF THROUGHOUT ALL OF OUR PARTNERS.
THEY BUILT THE BOATHOUSE, WHICH IS NEXT TO THE FILTER BUILDING.
IT HOLDS 120 RACING SHELLS FOR THEIR PROGRAMS. ADDITIONALLY, WITH PRIVATE, PRIVATELY RAISED FUNDS, THEY RESTORED THE FILTER BUILDING, WHICH IS USED AS A RENTABLE EVENT SPACE FOR BOTH PRIVATE AND PUBLIC EVENTS. THE BOOMERANG HOLDS LAUNCHES AND OTHER ROWING OR OTHER EQUIPMENT FOR THEIR ROW PROGRAM, AS WELL AS A FEE BASED STORAGE FOR THE KAYAKS AND CANOES.
AND THE CITY RECEIVES 10% OF GROSS REVENUE FROM THE FILTER BUILDING AND BOOMERANG.
THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MAINTENANCE AND UTILITIES AT ALL THREE FACILITIES.
AND SINCE 2019, THEY'VE SPENT A LITTLE OVER $231,000 ON REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE.
BELOW IS A SNAPSHOT OF THE LAST FEW YEARS OF REVENUES RECEIVED, AND THOSE REVENUES HAVE BEEN USED FOR PROJECTS SUCH AS THE DREDGE STUDY, UPDATES TO THE VENTILATION SYSTEM AND THE BOATHOUSE, AND REPAIRS TO THE FILTER BUILDING.
SINCE 2010, THEY PROVIDED MORE THAN $2.1 MILLION IN FINANCIAL AID.
AND BELOW IS A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE LAST YEAR OF THE SCHOLARSHIP.
AND YOU'LL SEE THEY ALSO FAR EXCEEDED THE MINIMUM GOAL OF $25,000.
ON TO THE SAILING CLUBS AT WHITE ROCK.
CORINTHIAN SAILING CLUB IS A NONPROFIT CLUB.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 337 MEMBERS.
THEY OFFER 183 BOAT DAVITS, RACKS AND PADS ON A MEMBERSHIP BASIS.
THEIR CURRENT AGREEMENT STARTED IN 2024 AND IT'S FOR TEN YEARS FOR AN ANNUAL FEE OF $10,980.
THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL MAINTENANCE AND UTILITIES AND OPERATIONS OF THEIR PREMISES.
AND SINCE 2021, THEY HAVE SPENT $312,000 ON MAINTENANCE OF THEIR OWN FUNDS.
JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THE AERIAL OF THEIR PREMISES.
THEY'RE ALSO A NONPROFIT SAILING CLUB.
THEY HAVE 79 BOAT DAVITS, RACKS AND PADS THAT ARE OFFERED ON A MEMBERSHIP BASIS.
THEY CURRENTLY HAVE 171 MEMBERS.
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THEIR CURRENT AGREEMENT STARTED IN 2023 FOR TEN YEARS AT AN ANNUAL FEE OF $4,740.THEY WERE ALSO PREVIOUSLY OPERATING OFF OF A RENEWABLE PERMIT ANNUALLY.
THEY ARE ALSO SOLELY RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THE MAINTENANCE, UTILITIES AND OPERATIONS, AND SINCE 2019, THEY HAVE SPENT A LITTLE UNDER $177,000 ON THESE REPAIRS AND MAINTENANCE. NEXT SLIDE PLEASE.
JUST A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THEIR AERIAL OVERVIEW FOR THEIR PREMISES.
SO THEY DO PROVIDE THE CITY 20% OF THEIR GROSS REVENUES.
BELOW IS A QUICK SNAPSHOT OF THEIR LAST COUPLE OF YEARS.
AND WE DID RUN A COMPARISON TO THE PREVIOUS VENDOR AND THEIR LAST THREE YEARS AS AN OPERATOR.
SPIRIT OF DALLAS IS THE OTHER FOR PROFIT ENTITY OPERATING ON THE LAKE.
THEY OPERATE ON A ONE YEAR OUTDOOR FEE BASED PERMIT THAT THEY RENEW EACH YEAR.
THEY AVERAGE ABOUT 5 TO 6,000 SAILORS A YEAR, AND THE CITY RECEIVES 15% OF THE GROSS REVENUES.
SO SINCE 2023, WE'VE RECEIVED APPROXIMATELY $44,000.
DALLAS ROWING CLUB HAS BEEN OPERATING SINCE 1987.
THEIR CURRENT AGREEMENT WAS EXECUTED IN 2018 WITH A TEN YEAR TERM, TWO FIVE YEAR RENEWALS AND THEIR SHELL OR THEIR FACILITY STORES 85 SHELLS AND THEY ALSO HAVE A FULL GYM.
ALL FIXED ASSETS ARE PROPERTY OF THE CITY.
THEY ARE ALSO RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL OF THEIR UTILITIES AND THEY ALSO HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP FUND.
AND SINCE 2023, THEY PROVIDED $16,637 IN PUBLIC IN SCHOLARSHIPS TO PUBLIC SCHOOL STUDENTS.
WE'RE HERE TO RECEIVE FEEDBACK FROM COUNCIL.
PARKS AND RECREATION RECOMMENDATIONS.
WE SEE A COUPLE OPTIONS OUT THERE.
WITH THAT, THAT IS ALL WE HAVE AND WE ARE OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS.
THANK YOU. WE WILL START WITH CHAIR BLACKMON, I BELIEVE.
THANK YOU AND THANKS FOR BRINGING THIS.
SORRY MY VOICE IS GOING OUT, BUT THE REASON FOR THIS CONVERSATION IS I THINK I KIND OF BROUGHT IT UP IN THE FAIR PARK IS THAT WE HAVE NO MONEY, AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO PAY $60 MILLION TO DREDGE THE LAKE.
IF WE'RE GOING TO GO THAT ROUTE, HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO ANY KIND OF IMPROVEMENTS IN ANY OF OUR PARK SYSTEMS. WE'VE GOT THE EROSION DISCUSSION HAPPENING NOW, AND I GUESS THERE'S THAT CONVERSATION THAT'S HAPPENING.
SO MY QUESTION IS, IF YOU WANT MY FEEDBACK, THEN YES.
GO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES, LOOK AT WHAT WE HAVE.
LOOK AT HOW WE CAN MONETIZE IT.
BUT HOW DO WE WORK TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE GETTING THE CITY IS GETTING WHAT IT IS EXPECTED, EITHER VIA CONTRACT OR JUST BECAUSE, I MEAN, THIS IS A COMMUNITY ASSET, SO EVERYBODY IN THE COMMUNITY SHOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS IT.
SO I'M LOOKING AT, YOU KNOW, FROM BOAT STORAGE TO ADULT PROGRAMS TO AND HOW ARE THESE STREAMS BEING USED IN WHAT CITY MONEY IS BEING USED COMPARED TO THAT? ALSO LOOKING AT THE FINANCIAL AID OF EACH GROUP.
BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT THIS CAN BE A WHAT AM I TRYING TO SAY, A AN OPPORTUNITY FOR KIDS TO, YOU KNOW, TO CREATE MORE ABOUT THEMSELVES OR TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THEMSELVES.
IT CAN HELP WITH OUR AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMING, WHICH WE'VE SEEN WILL DETER CRIME.
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SO I GUESS WHAT I'M SAYING IS, ARE WE DOING THE MOST WE CAN FOR THE PEOPLE THAT NEED IT THE MOST? OKAY.I'M LOOKING AGAIN, COMMUNITY ACCESS AT ALL THESE FACILITIES, AND I'M GLAD MR. TAVARES IS ON HERE BECAUSE BACHMAN LAKE IS AN UNDERLYING RESOURCE.
YOU'VE GOT A GREAT BOATHOUSE THERE.
SO, IN OTHER WORDS, ARE WE LOOKING AT THIS IN A HOLISTIC BIG GROUP PICTURE AND LOOKING AT NOT AS A FRAGMENTED GROUPS. NOT FRAGMENTED NONPROFITS.
NOT FRAGMENTED FOR PROFITS, BUT ACTUALLY A VERY LOOK AT THE WHOLE ECOSYSTEM.
AND SO AND THEN OF COURSE THE FILTER BUILDING.
HOW IS THAT THAT HOW IS THAT ALL IN PLAY WITH THIS? BECAUSE I BELIEVE THIS WAS ONE OF THE FIRST CONTRACTS OF A PRIVATE PUBLIC PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAD.
[INAUDIBLE]. DO YOU KNOW WHEN ALL THESE CONTRACTS COME ABOUT, WHEN THEY EXPIRE AND HOW THEY'RE ALL STRUCTURED? BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE ALL DIFFERENT.
AND WE DO HAVE A LIST OF ALL THE TERMS. IF YOU'RE ASKING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE FILTER BUILDING, THE INITIAL TERM EXPIRES IN 2026 AND IT HAS 210 YEAR RENEWALS ON IT.
IT DOES AUTOMATIC? IT IS NOT AUTOMATIC OKAY.
SO THIS WOULD BE A GOOD TIME TO START LOOKING AT HOW THIS ALL WORKS TOGETHER AND NOT IN A FRAGMENTED, ITS PIECEMEAL OPERATION BECAUSE I DO BELIEVE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MONEY.
WE DON'T. OUR BONDS ARE GOING TO BE VERY SHORT COMING UP IN THESE NEXT FEW YEARS.
SO IF PEOPLE ARE LOOKING FOR US TO HELP PROVIDE RELIEF IN SPACE EXPANSION OR PROVIDING MORE OPPORTUNITIES FOR OUR YOUTH, I DON'T KNOW WHERE WE'RE GOING TO GET IT BECAUSE WE ARE PRETTY MUCH TAPPED OUT, AND YOU'RE GOING TO PROBABLY HEAR FROM MISS WILLIS ABOUT HOW TO MONETIZE ALL THIS.
WE HAVE TO FIND REVENUE STREAMS BECAUSE WE CAN'T KEEP TAXING AND WE CAN'T KEEP CUTTING.
SO I'LL LISTEN TO MY COLLEAGUES.
I KNOW THIS VOICE IS GETTING ON EVERYBODY'S NERVES, SO I'LL LISTEN TO YOU GUYS.
AND AS I HEAR YOUR COMMENTS ON THIS.
THANK YOU. THANK YOU CHAIR BLACKMON I CAN CERTAINLY RELATE TO THE VOICE THING.
WE JUST TALKED TOO MUCH AROUND HERE.
OKAY. CHAIR NARVAEZ, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? YES. AND MADAM CHAIR AND I THOUGHT IT WAS GOING TO BE MY VOICE THAT WAS GOING TO BE COARSE THIS MORNING, BUT I GUESS MISS BLACKMON WAS REALLY CHEERING ON US TEXAS LONGHORNS LAST NIGHT, SO I KNOW THAT'S A JOKE.
SO BUT IN ALL SERIOUSNESS WHAT MISS BLACKMON JUST MENTIONED WITH COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON JUST SAID I AGREE COMPLETELY. WE IT IS A MESS AS FAR AS HAVING ALL THESE DIFFERENT INDIVIDUAL ENTITIES HAVE THEIR OWN INDIVIDUAL CONTRACTS AND THEY'RE ALL VERY SIMILAR AS FAR AS WHAT THEY DO OVERALL, BUT NOT IN WHAT THEY PROVIDE.
I MEAN, YOU THERE'S LIKE THIS LITTLE BITTY EMPTY SLIDE FOR BACHMANN.
AND THEN BUT FOR WHITE ROCK, I MEAN, THERE WAS A LOT THAT THEY THAT THEY'RE REQUIRED TO DO.
YOU HAVE AN INEQUITY RIGHT THERE IN JUST HOW WE DOLE OUT WHAT HAS TO BE DONE.
AND EVERYTHING SHE SAID IS SPOT ON.
AND, YOU KNOW, WE'RE REPLACING THE DAM, AND, I MEAN, EVERYTHING HAS TO BE REDONE OVER THERE.
AND WE'RE WE'RE IN GREAT SHAPE FOR GETTING ALL OF THAT DONE.
BUT ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO HAVE TO HAPPEN AT WHITE ROCK AT SOME POINT EVENTUALLY AS WELL.
THE DAM'S BEEN DONE ALREADY, AND I MEAN THE SPILLWAY.
BECAUSE WE'RE NOT GETTING WHAT WE USED TO GET AT THESE GEMS. LIKE THERE USED TO BE ROWING COMPETITIONS LIKE OLYMPIC TYPE ROWING COMPETITIONS AT BACHMAN AND WHITE ROCK, AND THAT DOESN'T HAPPEN ANYMORE BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF THE LACK OF ABILITY TO DREDGE.
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THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.BUT WHAT I GUESS WHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS WHAT CAN WE DO UNTIL THEN? I MEAN, DON'T ANSWER IT NOW BECAUSE YOU'RE I'M NOT EXPECTING THAT.
I'M JUST SAYING, AS WE AS WE CONTINUE ON, WHAT CAN WE DO TO TRY TO MONETIZE, TO TRY TO MAKE THESE BETTER IN ORDER FOR US TO MAKE OUR SYSTEM BETTER AND MAKE SURE THAT WE CAN HIGHLIGHT THESE TYPES OF ACTIVITIES.
YOU KNOW, IT IS HARD ON ROWING BECAUSE IT'S A VERY EXPENSIVE ACTIVITY.
SO HOW DO WE MAKE SURE THAT THESE CONTRACTS OR HOWEVER WE DO IT IN THE FUTURE, ACTUALLY WORK WITH ACTUAL DALLAS CITY OF DALLAS RESIDENTS CHILDREN, ADULTS ON THESE ACTIVITIES THAT WE CAN HELP GROW IT AND MAKE THIS A BETTER THING.
AND IT WAS CHANGED BECAUSE IT WAS TOLD TO US THAT, OH, WELL, YOU KNOW, LEGAL DID IT THE PEOPLE IN LEGAL BECAUSE, WELL, THE ROWING CLUBS WOULDN'T SIGN THEIR CONTRACTS UNLESS WE TOOK OUT THIS, THIS AND THIS THIS IS FOR BACHMAN SPECIFICALLY.
AND IT WAS LIKE SO WE JUST WENT AHEAD AND DID IT.
THEN WHAT THE HECK ARE WE VOTING ON? SO AND THE PARK BOARD, SO THESE ARE THINGS THAT I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE SAID, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT THIS LATER.
BUT EVERYTHING PAULA SAID THANK YOU, PAULA, FOR BRINGING IT ALL TOGETHER.
BECAUSE I AGREE WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID ABOUT IT.
LET'S. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER WILLIS HAS SOME QUESTIONS FOR US.
AND SO I APPRECIATE YOU LETTING ME JUMP AHEAD REAL QUICK.
SO ON, SOME OF THE BENEFITS ON THE MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES, THINGS LIKE THE DUC PARKING LOT.
IS THAT SOMETHING THAT IS OF BENEFIT TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC THAT THE PUBLIC CAN USE AS WELL? IT'S IT WAS DESIGNED FOR THEIR PROGRAM AND THEIR ATHLETES.
SO ANYBODY CAN PARK THERE, BUT IT'S PRIMARILY USED BY THE CLUB.
OKAY. I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT MAINTENANCE RESPONSIBILITIES.
I MEAN, I SEE THAT LISTED AS A BENEFIT, WHICH IT'S A BENEFIT, BUT IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S USUALLY PRETTY FOCUSED ON THE CLUB OR ORGANIZATIONS, YOU KNOW, THEIR OPERATIONS. YEAH.
OKAY. SO WHAT IS OUR GENERAL FUND? WHAT ARE WE SPENDING ON WHITE ROCK LAKE? AND I KNOW DW TAKES CARE OF THE WATER.
BUT DO WE HAVE A SENSE OF KIND OF WHAT THE CITY IS? WHAT PARK AND REC SPENDS ON WHITE ROCK LAKE FOR MAINTENANCE, EROSION, THAT SORT OF THING.
YOU KNOW, IN 2017, THE PARK BOARD WAS AND THE STAFF WAS TO FOCUS ON ACTIONS THAT IMPACT REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES OR OFFSET OPERATING COSTS. AND THEN IN 2021, THAT KIND OF SEEMED TO TAKE THE SHAPE OF ONLY SPONSORSHIPS.
AND SO WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS THIS COST RECOVERY THAT COUNCIL MEMBER BLACKMON REFERRED TO.
BUT I JUST AM TRYING TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS THE PAYMENT TO THE CITY THAT HELPS US CARE FOR THIS, BECAUSE YOU CAN TAKE THE BOAT OUT ON THE LAKE, BUT YOU NEED THE CONDITIONS AROUND THE LAKE TO ALSO BE PAID FOR AND MAINTAINED.
SO THAT'S WHERE THE TAXPAYER COMES IN.
AND I THINK THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS TO THIS.
AND THIS WAS A GOOD PHASE ONE TO LOOK AT, YOU KNOW, WHERE ARE WE ON ALL OF THIS.
BUT I THINK PHASE TWO IS HOW YOU RESOLVE WHITE ROCK LAKE WITH BACHMAN LAKE AND ANY OTHER REVENUE OPPORTUNITY IN THIS KIND OF SPACE WITH WHAT WE'RE COLLECTING FROM CLUBS.
AND THERE ARE TWO COMPONENTS HERE.
THERE'S THE THIS IS A HOBBY OR AN ATHLETIC SPORT ASPECT.
AND THEN THERE'S THE PUBLIC SERVICE ASPECT.
AND WE KNOW THAT THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO.
I THINK IT WAS ALLUDED TO THAT IT'S PUBLIC SAFETY.
IT'S EXPOSURE TO DISCIPLINE AND COMMITMENT AND COMPETITION AND TEAMWORK.
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AND THAT'S GREAT. I THINK WE BELIEVE IN THAT.BUT THERE'S ANOTHER SIDE WHERE I JUST DON'T WANT TAXPAYERS UNDERWRITING A HOBBY.
AND HOW WE WE CARRY THAT WEIGHT A LITTLE BIT MORE IN THE FACE OF WHAT WE ARE STARING DOWN WITH REGARD TO ALL OF THE OTHER EXPENSES THAT THE CITY HAS.
THIS DOESN'T NEED TO BE A CITY OF DALLAS SPONSORSHIP, THE CLUBS OR THE REVENUE GENERATORS WHO ARE GIVING THE CITY MONEY FROM THEIR REVENUE GENERATION VERSUS A FEE. WHAT CAN WE ASK OF THEM? WHAT IS A MODEL THAT WON'T WE DON'T WANT TO CRUSH THEM.
BUT I THINK THAT WHEN I SEE THESE ANNUAL PAYMENTS, IT'S PRETTY LOW CONSIDERING THE BENEFIT.
AND THIS IS JUST A TIME WHERE, YOU KNOW, SOMEBODY'S GOT TO COVER IT.
AND CONTINUING TO ASK THE TAXPAYER FOR IT DOES NOT SEEM LIKE A GOOD IDEA.
SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A FORMULA FOR COST RECOVERY THAT YOU ALL MIGHT CONSIDER ON THIS.
YOU KNOW, HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU ON THE LAKE? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT YOU GET FROM THAT, ETC.
BUT I THINK WE NEED TO START SHAPING THAT SO THAT WE CAN GET TO THE NEXT PIECE OF THIS EQUATION, WHICH IS WHAT CAN WE CHARGE TO A MAXIMUM THAT IS NOT DETRIMENTAL TO THE CLUBS? BUT WE NEED TO START THINKING IN TERMS OF THAT.
AND IN FACT, IT WAS OUTLINED IN 2017, IN THE PARK'S OWN WORK PLANS.
SO THANK YOU, MRS. CHAIR. APPRECIATE IT.
DEPUTY MAYOR PRO TEM BAZALDUA.
THANK YOU ALL FOR THE PRESENTATION.
I WOULD NOT WANT TO PUT RYAN ON THE SPOT, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO FOLLOW UP TO MISS WILLIS'S REQUEST SPECIFICALLY AND GET A FULL COST ANALYSIS.
I THINK THERE'S A LOT TO KIND OF LEARN FROM THESE RESETS.
I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT OUR FEES ARE AT THE VERY MINIMAL 100% COST RECOVERY.
AND I'D LIKE TO MAKE SURE, YOU KNOW, I, I'M NOT SAYING THAT THESE ARE IT, BUT I THINK THAT WE ARE GETTING PAST A DAY IN OUR CITY WHERE WE HAVE PARTNERSHIP DEALS THAT ARE SWEETHEART DEALS, AND THAT'S THE REALITY OF IT.
INSTEAD, WHAT IT WAS THAT THOSE PRIVATE PARTNERS WERE LOOKING TO ACCOMPLISH.
SO WHEN I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS, JUST AS MENTIONED.
I MEAN, WE'RE TALKING NOMINAL.
I MEAN, WHEN YOU'VE GOT HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS COMING TO US ANNUALLY, WHAT'S THE POINT? WHAT'S THE POINT FOR THE CITY? SO WE'VE GOT TO DO SOMETHING BETTER THAN THIS.
BECAUSE THE ONLY THINGS THAT I SEE ACTUALLY BEING REPAIRED ARE TO HELP FURTHER YOU ALL'S OPERATIONS.
WHAT HAVE YOU ALL PUT TOWARDS THAT? BECAUSE WE'RE KNOCKING ON THE DOORS OF LEGISLATORS AT ALL LEVELS OF GOVERNMENT ASKING FOR THIS TO GET DONE.
AND ULTIMATELY, I THINK YOU ALL ARE GOING TO BE THE BIGGEST BENEFICIARIES.
BUT WHEN I LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS AND WHAT YOU ALL ARE PUTTING BACK INTO THE CITY, WHY ARE Y'ALL NOT CONTRIBUTING TO THAT? WHY DO WE NOT HAVE AN ONGOING CONTRIBUTION FROM THESE PARTNERSHIPS ON THE LAKE, SO THAT THIS IS A SUSTAINABLE VENTURE AND WE'RE NOT LOOKING 20 YEARS FROM NOW IN TRYING TO LOOK UNDER ALL OF THE SEAT CUSHIONS TO, TO TO GET THIS LAKE DREDGED AGAIN.
THIS SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT IS BUILT IN TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A PART OF NORMAL MAINTENANCE.
THE STRUCTURES THAT WE HAVE NOW WITH THESE DEALS ARE NOT KEEPING THIS SUSTAINABLE MOVING FORWARD.
AND SO WE'VE GOT TO PARKS DEPARTMENT.
WE'VE I KNOW THAT OUR PARTNERS ARE USED TO SWEETHEART DEALS, BUT WE'VE GOT TO START LOOKING AT THESE DEALS BEING SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO BENEFIT THE ASSETS, THE RESIDENTS. NONE OF THIS WAS PUT IN TO HELP MAINTAIN THE INFRASTRUCTURE OR THE TRAIL SYSTEM ALONG WHITE ROCK LAKE.
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VENDORS. AND THAT'S WHAT WE'VE GOT TO GET PAST.WE HAVE PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS BECAUSE WE'RE TRYING TO LEVERAGE THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HELP MAINTAIN THE FUTURE AND THE SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR CITY ASSETS. IF WE ARE STILL IN THE HOLE OR TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO MAINTAIN THESE ASSETS WHILE YOU ALL HAVE A FUNCTIONING BUSINESS MODEL, THEN WE ARE THE DUMB ONES AT THE CITY.
AND SO I'M ASKING FOR US TO NOT BE THE DUMB ONES ANYMORE, AND TO LOOK AT THESE DEALS AS WAYS THAT ARE GOING TO ENHANCE THE FUTURE OF THESE ASSETS, INSTEAD OF JUST CHECKING A BOX AND MAKING SURE THAT YOU ALL CAN CONTINUE Y'ALL'S ROW ACTIVITIES.
WHEN I LOOK AT THE SLIDE, THAT IS, WHAT NUMBER IS THIS? THEY'RE NOT NUMBERED.
I'M SORRY, I MAY HAVE MISSED IT, BUT CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY WE SEE SUCH SUBSTANTIAL DECREASE IN REVENUE GENERATION, ESPECIALLY COMING OFF OF COVID YEARS? WITH REGARDS TO THE FILTER BUILDING? WELL, I THINK IT HAS BOTH FILTER AND BOOMERANG ON THIS.
THE PREVIOUS COUPLE OF YEARS THEY HAD A LOT OF REBOOKINGS FROM COVID CANCELLATIONS.
SO THEY WERE FULLY BOOKED, WHICH IS GOOD.
BUT THOSE REBOOKS STARTED FALLING OFF.
AND THEN THERE WAS AN INCREASE IN COMPETITION FOR OTHER RENTAL VENUES.
SO THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH WITH CULINAIRE TO REVAMP THEIR WEDDING APPROACH.
AND THERE IS A BELIEF THEY'LL BE BACK TO PRE-COVID NUMBERS BY NEXT SEASON.
THAT WAS THE UNDERSTANDING ON WHY THERE WAS A DIP, THOUGH IN THIS PAST YEAR.
I SEE THAT Y'ALL'S PRIORITY ISN'T EXACTLY WHAT WE SHOULD BE SEEING Y'ALL'S PRIORITY AS, SO I'M ASKING FOR THERE TO BE JUST AS MUCH EMPHASIS PUTTING ON MAINTAINING AND SUSTAINING THESE PARK ASSETS SO THAT YOU ALL'S OPERATIONS CAN ALSO BE SUSTAINABLE, BUT SO THAT WE CAN THRIVE FROM WHAT IS A PUBLIC PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP.
AND PARTNERSHIPS MEAN THAT BOTH OF US ARE GETTING SOMETHING OUT OF THE DEAL.
I WANT TO I WANT TO SEE THE SAME EMPHASIS PUT ON WHAT WE HAVE WITH OUR OTHER PARTNERS, SO THAT THIS IS ACTUALLY A LEVERAGED TOOL AND WE'RE NOT JUST BREAKING EVEN, IN FACT, COMING INTO THE RED EVERY YEAR JUST TO MAINTAIN THESE ASSETS.
MEANWHILE, YOU ALL HAVE A FUNCTIONING, YOU KNOW, OPERATION.
IT'S THE SAME THAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT WITH FAIR PARK.
IT'S THE EXACT SAME THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH FAIR PARK.
BUT WHEN YOU COMPARE THAT TO ALL OF THE OTHER RESOURCES THAT WE OFFER FOR OUR RESIDENTS, AND YOU LOOK AT US NOT RECOVERING FULL COST IN DEPARTMENT SERVICES, FOR INSTANCE, OR IN SANITATION, FOR INSTANCE.
WE'RE NAILED TO THE TO THE CHALKBOARD, RIGHT? THE SCRUTINY IS ABSOLUTELY THERE.
BUT I THINK WE'RE HEARING VERY CLEARLY THAT Y'ALL DESIRE FOR US TO FURTHER ANALYZE THIS TO WORK WITH THE EXISTING PARTNERS AND COME BACK TO YOU WITH SOME ADDITIONAL RECOMMENDATIONS. SO MESSAGE RECEIVED.
THANK YOU. AND I DO LOVE THE OUTREACH AND THAT YOU'VE LISTED THE DIVERSITY.
THE NUMBERS DON'T LOOK THAT THEY'VE FLUCTUATED TOO MUCH.
BECAUSE IF IF AGAIN, THIS IS GOING TO BE AN ASSET FOR ALL AND YOU HAVE YEARS OF CONSISTENCY WITH HIGH SCHOOLS THAT YOU'RE DEALING WITH, DON'T JUST LET THAT BE A DATA POINT THAT YOU'RE SHOWING AND TOUTING WITH US.
IF WE HAVE MADISON, LINCOLN, SKYLINE HIGH SCHOOL, FOR INSTANCE.
I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT THEY HAVE BEEN DIRECTLY OUTREACHED BY THESE, THESE OPPORTUNITIES AND THAT WE HAVE SEEN ACTIVE INITIATIVE TO INCREASE WHAT THAT DIVERSITY IS THAT YOU ALL HAVE LISTED HERE.
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OKAY. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR.CHAIR I'M GOING TO START OFF WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER BAZALDUA LEFT OFF.
EIGHT YEARS AGO, THESE NUMBERS ON SCHOLARSHIPS WERE WAY DOWN.
Y'ALL HAVE COME A REALLY LONG WAY IN GETTING TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY.
BUT I AGREE, WE NEED TO SEE THAT CONTINUOUS GROWTH.
CAN YOU GIVE ME SOME DATA BEHIND THAT ON HOW MANY CLASSES THIS IS ACTUALLY COVERING? IS IT SOMEONE THAT'S ON THE TEAM? IS IT SOMEONE THAT'S JUST GOING OUT FOR RECREATION? DO Y'ALL HAVE A QUICK RESPONSE TO THAT? THAT'S INFORMATION WE CAN REACH OUT TO OUR PARTNERS, COLLECT AND SEND TO YOU.
DID THAT DID THE FIRE THAT HAPPENED AT THE FILTER BUILDING ALSO CAUSE FOR ANY LOSS OF REVENUE? AND WHAT WAS THE IS THAT STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION? DO WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENED? AND IS THERE ANY INSURANCE DOLLARS TO COVER THOSE REPAIRS? WERE THEY HAVING TO BE DONE BY THE PARK DEPARTMENT? YES. SO THE IT WAS COVERED BY THE INSURANCE OF THE WHITE ROCK BOATHOUSE.
IT WAS NOT THE CITY'S RESPONSIBILITY.
THERE WERE A FEW EVENTS THAT NEEDED TO GET MOVED, SO THERE WAS LOST REVENUE THERE.
BUT THEIR INSURANCE POLICY HAD A LOST REVENUE CLAUSE WHICH MADE UP FOR THAT LOSS.
OKAY. AND CAN YOU TELL ME MORE OR LESS WHAT THE AVERAGE RENTAL FOR THE HOLIDAYS WEEKENDS ARE FOR THE FILTER BUILDING ON A SATURDAY.
I CAN GET THAT INFORMATION FROM OUR PARTNER AND SEND HER YOUR WAY.
SO IT'S ABOUT $6,000 FOR ONE EVENT ON A SATURDAY, PROBABLY MORE ON THE HOLIDAYS.
WE NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT'S FAVORABLE BOTH TO THE CITY AND ITS RESIDENTS.
WE, OF COURSE, WANT THE OPERATOR TO BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THEIR OPERATION AND THEIR BUSINESS MODEL.
BUT I WOULD ASK FOR AND I'M NOT SURE WHAT SORT OF ACCOUNTING WE GET ON THEIR GROSS AND NET AND ON THEIR BALANCE SHEETS, BUT THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE DEPARTMENT EVALUATE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE GETTING THE SAME RETURNS THAT IF THIS WAS ON THE PRIVATE SIDE.
I'LL ALSO ASK THE CITY TO LOOK AT OTHER MUNICIPALITIES ON WHAT THEIR CONTRACTS LOOK LIKE ON THEIR WATERWAYS AND THEIR LAKES, WITH SIMILAR CONTRACTS TO THIS.
AND I FAILED TO MENTION THAT THIS IS DEFINITELY AN ONGOING CONVERSATION.
THIS ISN'T. I WASN'T EXPECTING TO HAVE AN ANSWER TODAY.
IT WAS. AND WE MAY NEED TO FIND A CONSULTANT TO HELP US, BUT I DON'T WANT ANY ONE PROGRAM TO LOSE ITS IDENTITY BECAUSE WE'VE GOT A LOT OF GOOD ROWING PROGRAMS IN THE SYSTEM, AND THERE IS PRIDE IN ROWING FOR A GROUP OR YOUR SCHOOL OR BOTH.
BUT AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT, THAT IS NOT THAT IS A [INAUDIBLE] A BASIC, FAIR RESPONSE BACK TO US.
BECAUSE LIKE I'VE SAID, WE HAVE NO MONEY AND WE HAVE A BILL COMING UP.
IT SAYS GROSS, I THOUGHT IT WAS NET THAT THAT'S WHAT WE GOT 20% OF WAS NET.
BUT I, I IT'S BEEN MANY YEARS SO THAT WAS THAT.
BUT I DO PROBABLY EXPECT THIS WILL BE DISCUSSED ON A LOT OF OUR PARTNERS, AND ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT GET STIPENDS SO BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO BE EITHER BRINGING IT HERE OR THROUGH GFM TO LOOK AT ALL THIS STUFF, BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO REALLY COMB THE BUDGET, JUST TO BE HONEST. SO THAT'S IT.
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THANK YOU. OKAY.I THINK THAT THOSE ARE OUR QUESTIONS.
AND YOU I HATE TO SAY THIS, BUT YOU HAVE YOUR MARCHING ORDERS, SO TO SPEAK.
YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHEN YOU THINK IT'S TIME, WHEN YOU ALL ARE READY TO COME BACK.
WE APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT YOU'RE GOING TO PUT INTO THIS.
WE APPRECIATE YOU ALL BEING HERE TODAY.
AND HOPEFULLY YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CITY IS TODAY.
WE ARE MONEY IS TIGHT AND WE ARE, AS WE LOVE TO SAY, AROUND HERE, LOOKING FOR MONEY IN OUR COUCH CUSHIONS ANYWHERE WE CAN FIND THEM, FIND IT. AND AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE OF THOSE, THOSE AREAS.
LET'S ALL WORK TOGETHER AND WE'LL COME UP WITH A GOOD A GOOD PLACE TO MOVE FORWARD.
ALL RIGHT. WE'RE JUST I'M JUST GOING TO MOVE ON TO OUR BRIEFING MEMOS.
I WANT TO CALL TO EVERYONE'S ATTENTION THE VAPING ORDINANCE.
A RECOMMENDATION WILL COME TO COUNCIL ON THE 11TH.
SO YOU MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ALL YOUR INFORMATION.
WE WILL HEAR FROM OEQS IN JANUARY.
THEY WILL GIVE US A REVIEW OF THE CAP.
I KNOW WE DIDN'T HEAR FROM THEM TODAY, BUT THEY'LL BE HERE THEN THERE'S CARLOS.
JUST WANT YOU TO. WE HAVEN'T FORGOTTEN ABOUT YOU, CARLOS.
SO. ALL RIGHT, WITH ALL OF THAT.
THE WHITE ROCK MASTER PLAN RYAN, I BELIEVE WE HAD A CORRESPONDENCE FROM ROSA SAYING THE WHITE ROCK MASTER PLAN WOULD COME TO THIS COMMITTEE IN JANUARY, BUT IT'S NOT ON THE FORECAST. I WOULD THINK THAT I WOULD HOPE THAT THIS COUNCIL COULD HEAR FROM WHAT THE MASTER PLAN IS, BECAUSE I'VE GONE BACK AND FORTH WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT ON THAT, AND I'M SORRY, BUT WE'RE STILL THE GOVERNING BODY.
THANK YOU. SECOND THING IS, ANY MEMO THAT IS GOING TO YOUR PARK BOARD SHOULD COME TO THIS BODY.
THERE'S BEEN A COUPLE THAT HAVE BEEN MISSED.
I WOULD SUGGEST YOU FIGURE OUT A WAY TO DO IT.
MASTER PLAN, I THINK, IS ON THE FORECAST.
IT'S NOT ON THE TWO MONTH ONE, SO.
IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THEIR JOB, ADOPTING IT IN JANUARY.
I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IT BEFORE THE PARK BOARD ADOPTS IT.
WELL, I HOPE YOU UNDERSTAND MY CONCERNS.
AND I HOPE YOU TAKE IT BACK TO YOUR DIRECTOR AND YOUR CHAIR.
DEFINITELY. WE'LL DISCUSS IT. THANK YOU.
OKAY. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR CALLING IT TO OUR ATTENTION.
ALL RIGHT. MEETING ADJOURNED AT 11:04.
* This transcript was compiled from uncorrected Closed Captioning.